Rebel News Podcast - September 06, 2018


Trudeau WANTS to lose NAFTA — so he can blame Trump in the next election


Episode Stats

Length

40 minutes

Words per Minute

162.4512

Word Count

6,547

Sentence Count

465

Misogynist Sentences

15

Hate Speech Sentences

16


Summary

The NAFTA negotiations just keep getting weirder. Tonight, Justin Trudeau says that a Canadian cultural exemption must stand as part of any renegotiated NAFTA deal, and that an American network should not be allowed to buy Canadian media affiliates.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Tonight, the NAFTA negotiations just keep getting weirder.
00:00:03.920 It's September 5th, and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.
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00:00:16.040 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:00:19.760 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.
00:00:23.100 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it
00:00:26.700 is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:00:30.000 Today looks like it's going to be an important day for Canada
00:00:36.420 trying to negotiate our way into the new trade deal
00:00:39.380 between the United States and Mexico,
00:00:41.100 a successor trade deal to the NAFTA treaty
00:00:44.300 that Trump has officially served notice that he's canceling.
00:00:47.640 I'm recording this video before the full day's negotiations are done,
00:00:51.000 but I'm pessimistic anything will be announced tonight.
00:00:53.940 Take a look at this new statement by Justin Trudeau.
00:00:57.040 We have made it very, very clear that the cultural exemption must stand as part of any renegotiated NAFTA.
00:01:04.560 It is inconceivable to Canadians that an American network might buy Canadian media affiliates,
00:01:11.260 whether it's newspaper or TV stations or TV networks.
00:01:14.820 It would be a giving up of our sovereignty and our identity.
00:01:20.000 And that is something that we simply will not accept.
00:01:22.960 So we've made it very clear that defending that cultural exemption is something that is fundamental to Canadians.
00:01:30.160 And again, we will not sign a deal that is bad for Canada.
00:01:33.820 And quite frankly, eliminating a cultural exemption would be bad for Canadians.
00:01:40.680 Where did that come from?
00:01:41.720 That's a new objection, isn't it?
00:01:43.860 Wasn't he digging in on the dairy cartel before?
00:01:47.780 And a dispute resolution mechanism?
00:01:50.620 Where did this cultural industry's objection come from?
00:01:53.140 And why now?
00:01:55.040 So late in the negotiation.
00:01:56.340 And why negotiate in public?
00:01:58.460 Isn't that specifically what Chrystia Freeland said just last week,
00:02:01.360 that Canada wasn't going to do?
00:02:03.620 So when it comes to specific issues that we've been discussing
00:02:07.060 and the specific progress that we're making,
00:02:09.740 this, as everyone knows, is an extremely intense period in the negotiation.
00:02:16.360 And Ambassador Lighthizer and I have agreed
00:02:18.920 that the best way to make progress is not to be negotiating in public.
00:02:26.260 But can I show you that Trudeau clip just one more time?
00:02:28.760 Take a look.
00:02:29.060 We have made it very, very clear that the cultural exemption
00:02:33.000 must stand as part of any renegotiated NAFTA.
00:02:36.820 It is inconceivable to Canadians that an American network
00:02:39.960 might buy Canadian media affiliates,
00:02:43.500 whether it's newspaper or TV stations or TV networks.
00:02:47.480 It would be a giving up of our sovereignty and our identity.
00:02:52.220 And that is something that we simply will not accept.
00:02:55.000 So we've made it very clear that defending that cultural exemption
00:02:59.060 is something that is fundamental to Canadians.
00:03:02.520 And again, we will not sign a deal that is bad for Canada.
00:03:06.420 And quite frankly, eliminating a cultural exemption
00:03:10.260 would be bad for Canadians.
00:03:12.760 What does that even mean?
00:03:14.340 It's inconceivable that American companies could own a Canadian newspaper?
00:03:19.080 Inconceivable?
00:03:23.080 You've got very good arms.
00:03:26.800 He didn't follow?
00:03:29.280 Inconceivable!
00:03:30.800 You keep using that word.
00:03:32.660 I don't think it means what you think it means.
00:03:36.360 Inconceivable?
00:03:37.620 Actually, most Canadian newspapers already are owned by Americans.
00:03:44.300 Post Media?
00:03:45.920 Their bondholders are all New York-based hedge fund managers.
00:03:49.860 Post Media?
00:03:51.040 That's the National Post, the Calgary Herald, the Edmonton Journal,
00:03:53.280 Vancouver Sun, Montreal Gazette,
00:03:55.160 the papers in Regina and Saskatoon,
00:03:57.780 the entire Toronto Sun chain of newspapers, 92 weekly newspapers.
00:04:02.140 Most Canadian newspapers are owned by Americans.
00:04:05.040 So what's he talking about?
00:04:08.800 Most big online media in Canada is foreign-owned, too.
00:04:13.060 BuzzFeed, Canada, Huffington Post, Canada, Vice, Canada.
00:04:18.300 They're all American.
00:04:20.320 And on the TV side, well, obviously more Canadians watch CNN for cable news
00:04:24.980 than watch CBC News Channel or CTV News Channel.
00:04:28.040 And all the big shows we watch on the main networks
00:04:30.800 are just American shows made in Hollywood or New York.
00:04:33.040 I'm not sure what Trudeau's talking about other than, obviously, his beloved CBC
00:04:41.700 and maybe a few other smaller handouts like that.
00:04:44.960 I mean, the Canadian magazine industry, it's almost dead.
00:04:48.740 McLean's magazine barely even publishes anymore.
00:04:51.800 I think their entire staff is just a half dozen people
00:04:54.220 from what used to be Canada's mightiest news magazine.
00:04:56.920 I don't know if you saw this news.
00:04:58.100 They're all for sale.
00:05:00.020 All the Canadian magazines, Canadian Business, Hello Canada, Money Sense, Flair, Chatelaine, McLean's,
00:05:06.760 all the Rogers magazines, they're being dumped.
00:05:10.420 So what's Trudeau even talking about?
00:05:12.720 Inconceivable!
00:05:14.000 Well, who knows what Trudeau's talking about?
00:05:15.720 I don't even think Trudeau really knows what he's talking about, as usual.
00:05:18.980 And believe it or not, in this case, that's the point.
00:05:22.040 He's just throwing up patriotic-sounding objections to a trade deal
00:05:25.680 so that when, not if, but when, Trudeau fails to get us into NAFTA,
00:05:30.900 he can claim he meant to do that.
00:05:33.220 I showed you a clip from the Princess Bride movie.
00:05:35.760 Here's another old-time clip that fits.
00:05:38.100 I meant to do that.
00:05:48.460 Yeah, sure you did.
00:05:49.900 You meant to screw up the NAFTA deal.
00:05:51.800 Here's Arlene Dickinson from the CBC, who writes,
00:05:55.580 I love how suddenly everyone is a far smarter and better negotiator
00:05:59.620 than Justin Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland.
00:06:01.800 This is five-level chess, not checkers.
00:06:05.600 Like it or not, they represent us,
00:06:07.100 and this is about showing strength as a nation for our nation.
00:06:10.420 Stand tall, Canada, stand tall.
00:06:13.380 Sure, lady, 5D chess.
00:06:16.000 That's what's going on in Trudeau's mind.
00:06:19.800 I guess the India fiasco, that was just 3D chess.
00:06:23.640 You may think it looked dumb, but it was sort of double smart.
00:06:28.340 That's all.
00:06:29.720 And that Saudi fiasco, that's 4D chess.
00:06:33.800 It's brilliant.
00:06:34.820 Don't be so superficial in thinking it backfired.
00:06:38.320 And getting booted out of NAFTA, but the Mexicans staying in,
00:06:42.600 that's 5D chess.
00:06:45.040 Just like this disastrous Trans Mountain Pipeline court ruling
00:06:48.280 that literally banned the pipeline from proceeding.
00:06:53.880 Construction has stopped.
00:06:55.360 In the words of Bill Morneau, the finance minister,
00:06:58.440 that's an important step forward.
00:07:01.480 Taken together, today's decisions from the Federal Court of Appeal
00:07:04.760 and from Kinder Morgan shareholders
00:07:06.660 are important next steps in getting this project built
00:07:10.400 in the right way for the benefit of all Canadians.
00:07:13.300 Hey guys, did you know that a court order banning construction
00:07:17.000 is an important step in construction?
00:07:20.240 Well, the CBC sure seems to think so.
00:07:22.640 They become a parody of themselves.
00:07:24.700 Let me show you the latest from just this morning.
00:07:28.600 NAFTA talks resume as questions grow
00:07:31.000 about Trump's ability to deliver.
00:07:33.900 Trump's ability!
00:07:35.080 Did you know that that's what's in question here?
00:07:37.060 Here, let me read a little bit more from the story.
00:07:38.360 Canada returns to the NAFTA table in Washington Wednesday
00:07:42.160 after a four-day break in negotiations
00:07:44.220 that appeared to be pretty stressful
00:07:46.400 for the American side.
00:07:49.640 The Trump administration's failure to secure a deal
00:07:52.540 before last Friday wasn't well received
00:07:54.240 by key voices in Congress
00:07:56.120 where NAFTA's fate ultimately will be decided.
00:07:59.340 By the end of the weekend,
00:08:00.600 the White House seemed to have fallen out with an ally
00:08:03.480 it had hoped would back a revised NAFTA,
00:08:05.740 a union representing millions of working-class Americans
00:08:08.700 now souring on President Trump's ability to deliver.
00:08:13.100 Hey, do you think any of that's true?
00:08:16.300 Do you think Donald Trump is stressed out about NAFTA?
00:08:20.880 Especially now that Chrystia Freeland's in town.
00:08:24.080 Do you think he even knows she's in town?
00:08:27.800 Here's the letter that Donald Trump sent to Congress.
00:08:31.100 It was sent on August 31st.
00:08:33.280 It's not going to be sent or will be sent.
00:08:34.900 It has been sent.
00:08:36.420 And it has let Congress know
00:08:38.380 that he does have a new deal with Mexico.
00:08:41.200 And I don't know if you can see the words there.
00:08:44.120 With Canada, if it is willing.
00:08:47.360 So the deal's with Mexico,
00:08:48.740 but he's saying Canada can join
00:08:50.320 if we choose to join them.
00:08:52.940 But he's proceeding as if we won't.
00:08:55.240 It's true that in the U.S., Congress has to approve any new trade treaty.
00:09:00.580 So it is technically true that Congress could block Mexico's deal with Trump
00:09:06.460 if they wanted to.
00:09:09.120 Do you think that's likely to happen?
00:09:12.040 Do you think that a deal that forces Mexico
00:09:15.220 to limit the amount of cheap Chinese parts in their factories,
00:09:19.440 like their auto factories,
00:09:20.960 that requires a high minimum wage in Mexican auto factories,
00:09:24.280 that now levels the playing field between Mexican factories
00:09:27.780 in terms of labor standards, environmental standards,
00:09:31.340 labels, levels the playing field with American factories,
00:09:34.140 do you think that's going to be blocked by congressmen,
00:09:38.380 either Republican or Democrat?
00:09:40.780 Can you imagine?
00:09:41.680 You're running as a Democrat for Congress this fall
00:09:44.780 in the 2018 midterm elections a few months away,
00:09:47.460 and you're running in those battleground states,
00:09:49.800 Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, the Rust Belt.
00:09:52.100 Can you imagine saying you're against Trump's deal with Mexico,
00:09:57.080 that you prefer no deal with Mexico,
00:10:00.300 you prefer NAFTA with cheap Mexican goods
00:10:04.120 just flooding into America?
00:10:06.320 I'm sorry, I just don't see it,
00:10:07.620 but maybe it takes getting $1.5 billion a year from Trudeau,
00:10:11.620 as the CBC gets,
00:10:13.020 before you can see how amazing a negotiator he is or something.
00:10:19.040 The CBC is right.
00:10:20.160 But Congress could kill Trump's new deal with Mexico.
00:10:24.580 I think it's going to pass overwhelmingly by both parties,
00:10:27.480 but hey, if that little hope gets you through the night,
00:10:30.660 hold on to it tight,
00:10:31.640 because Congress can stop a deal,
00:10:33.260 but how do they get Canada into a deal?
00:10:37.980 The CBC hasn't figured that part out yet.
00:10:40.380 I think Canada's in a bad place.
00:10:42.240 Actually, Chrystia Freeland's first response
00:10:43.920 to Mexico signing a deal with Trump
00:10:46.300 was that, well, obviously Mexico got ripped off,
00:10:49.320 and obviously it wasn't a very good deal.
00:10:52.120 You know, Aesop wrote a fable about that called Sour Grapes.
00:10:54.520 You know, if the fox can't reach the grapes he was trying to get,
00:10:58.700 well, they were probably sour.
00:11:00.140 He probably didn't want them after all.
00:11:02.700 Freeland, who doesn't have a deal,
00:11:05.120 who wants a deal,
00:11:07.120 says Mexico, who have a deal,
00:11:10.420 they don't have a good deal.
00:11:12.060 Remember this?
00:11:12.600 Mexico has made some significant concessions,
00:11:16.720 particularly in the area of labor
00:11:20.060 and of rules of origin on cars.
00:11:23.100 I don't believe that.
00:11:24.600 And neither does Mexico, obviously.
00:11:26.200 I don't know if you know this.
00:11:27.180 I mentioned it the other day.
00:11:29.160 Both leading political parties in Mexico
00:11:31.700 actually negotiated the deal together.
00:11:34.000 Isn't that funny?
00:11:35.420 Both the outgoing party and the incoming party,
00:11:38.980 because they had an election,
00:11:40.020 but the new president hasn't taken over yet.
00:11:42.100 So it's pretty much unanimous in Mexico
00:11:45.620 that they got a good deal.
00:11:47.320 Both parties are celebrating the deal.
00:11:49.980 And more than that, it gives Mexico certainty,
00:11:53.140 after all of Trump's anti-Mexican bluster.
00:11:56.580 But Chrystia Freeland knows better.
00:11:58.100 I mean, she's so plugged in, obviously.
00:12:00.880 As I told you last week,
00:12:01.920 you know, the Mexican foreign minister
00:12:03.060 has visited the White House 45 times
00:12:05.320 and visited Jared Kushner's personal house 10 times.
00:12:08.980 That's Trump's son-in-law to get this deal.
00:12:11.500 But Freeland knows better.
00:12:12.600 It's not a good deal.
00:12:13.680 Now, maybe she's right.
00:12:15.540 Maybe a deal hammered out after 55 meetings
00:12:18.580 that both Mexican political parties love.
00:12:22.400 Maybe Freeland knows better.
00:12:24.340 Maybe Mexico got a really crummy deal.
00:12:28.020 Well, if so, that's not good news for Canada, is it?
00:12:32.220 Because that's the template now.
00:12:33.940 That's the starting point for us now.
00:12:35.320 That's what we're being asked to sign up for now
00:12:37.740 that's already being negotiated by the Mexicans.
00:12:40.300 We have to follow in Mexico's footsteps, I guess.
00:12:43.580 Because Trudeau took the summer off.
00:12:46.540 Maybe he should have taken fewer personal days.
00:12:48.540 Maybe Chrystia Freeland should have spent more time
00:12:50.840 working with Trump than bashing Trump,
00:12:53.300 as she did all year in thinly veiled attack speeches.
00:12:58.040 What irony that the day Trump announced
00:13:00.440 his Mexican trade deal,
00:13:02.600 Freeland was instead in Berlin, Germany,
00:13:04.820 giving another anti-Trump speech to some Europeans.
00:13:08.940 So why this new objection from Trudeau?
00:13:11.020 Why that he won't do a deal if it doesn't protect the CBC?
00:13:15.800 Well, I think that's not an accident.
00:13:17.540 I don't think Trudeau wants a deal.
00:13:19.540 I think he wants to lose NAFTA and blame Trump
00:13:21.720 because it's easier for him to campaign
00:13:23.580 in next year's election against the evil Donald Trump
00:13:27.040 than against any Canadian real rival.
00:13:30.280 Trudeau's back on his original game plan,
00:13:31.760 throwing in poison pills, as they're called in business,
00:13:35.900 little deal breakers,
00:13:37.540 sabotaging things designed to push the Americans away.
00:13:40.840 Last year was gender equity and global warming
00:13:44.280 and indigenous matters, nothing to do with trade.
00:13:48.320 I mean, feminism and global warming,
00:13:49.960 those are legitimate issues.
00:13:51.300 Aboriginal issues are legitimate issues.
00:13:54.120 They're obviously important to Trudeau,
00:13:55.920 but they have nothing to do with NAFTA.
00:13:59.060 They have their own proper forms.
00:14:01.880 I mean, the UN's Global Warming Convention,
00:14:04.620 that's where you go to talk about your carbon taxes.
00:14:07.540 That's not a trade issue.
00:14:08.820 But Trudeau wasted half a year
00:14:10.040 trying to jam them into a NAFTA trade negotiation.
00:14:12.660 Maybe we actually did have 55 meetings with Trump's people,
00:14:16.520 but we just spent them talking about feminism
00:14:18.400 instead of what Mexico did,
00:14:20.360 getting access to the US market for their auto industry
00:14:23.460 and so many more industries.
00:14:25.320 It wasn't just virtue signaling by Trudeau.
00:14:27.840 I have come to believe that it was Trudeau
00:14:30.100 actually trying to scuttle the deal
00:14:32.460 by putting such bizarre things to the Americans.
00:14:34.960 The CBC is impressed with Trudeau.
00:14:36.400 Oh, they think he's doing great.
00:14:38.560 But I don't think anyone else in the world is.
00:14:41.000 Our Canadian dollar is falling lower and lower and lower.
00:14:45.360 That is the world saying,
00:14:47.140 we think the Canadian economy is overvalued.
00:14:50.420 It won't be as successful tomorrow as it is today.
00:14:53.500 Okay, so get out of Canada with your money.
00:14:56.340 Or if you're the CBC, you could pretend it's good news
00:14:58.840 that a low dollar, you see,
00:15:00.960 makes our economy more competitive, you see,
00:15:03.240 since it's a discount on everything we sell to foreigners.
00:15:06.540 If we had a 50 cent dollar,
00:15:08.740 our stuff would be even cheaper for Americans to buy.
00:15:11.120 That's the Venezuela strategy.
00:15:13.060 That would be great.
00:15:14.240 People would really buy our stuff if we gave it away.
00:15:17.580 We'd only earn half as much for our exports,
00:15:20.040 except, funny enough, oil.
00:15:21.400 That's bought and sold on a global market
00:15:24.220 priced in U.S. dollars.
00:15:25.880 But our dollar is falling,
00:15:27.060 and the Bank of Canada has delayed
00:15:28.480 its announcement on interest rates.
00:15:30.740 So even the Bank of Canada says
00:15:32.440 we are in dangerous territory.
00:15:33.980 So much turns on whether or not Trudeau can get a deal.
00:15:37.240 They're going to wait to tell you
00:15:38.100 what they're going to do with interest rates.
00:15:39.400 But hey, don't worry, guys.
00:15:42.000 The CBC says it's Trump's turn to worry.
00:15:44.500 Justin Trudeau's in charge now, man.
00:15:48.280 The master negotiator.
00:15:50.500 Justin Trudeau, grand diplomat.
00:15:53.340 Justin Trudeau, the consummate business executive.
00:15:57.380 Justin Trudeau, workaholic.
00:16:00.300 Yeah, I'm worried too.
00:16:03.740 Justin Trudeau wants NAFTA to fail
00:16:05.380 so he can campaign against Trump in 2019.
00:16:07.960 I've seen some polling on this issue,
00:16:09.900 and it suggests that is actually
00:16:11.840 an attractive strategy for him.
00:16:13.720 And Canadians don't like Trump.
00:16:16.740 I don't believe it's going to be
00:16:17.960 an attractive strategy.
00:16:18.840 Though right now, asking people
00:16:19.920 what they think of Trump,
00:16:21.220 it's a hypothetical question.
00:16:22.360 It's a fantasy scenario.
00:16:23.800 If we're kicked out of NAFTA,
00:16:25.620 are you mad at Trump?
00:16:27.380 If we actually are kicked out of NAFTA,
00:16:29.720 it's not going to be a hypothetical question.
00:16:32.000 It's going to be having our entire auto industry shut down.
00:16:35.460 If you shut out our auto sector
00:16:37.780 from the U.S. with a 20% tariff,
00:16:40.360 that's what Trump is threatening.
00:16:41.800 That is 160,000 jobs lost,
00:16:45.740 according to various bank studies.
00:16:47.440 I'm pretty sure those 160,000 families
00:16:50.580 won't understand why Trudeau killed
00:16:53.380 their industry, their private sector,
00:16:55.760 well-paying six-figure job industry.
00:16:58.440 What, to protect some dairy farm millionaires
00:17:00.940 or some cultural industries?
00:17:03.080 That's code for just the CBC.
00:17:05.180 Even if the CBC tells him
00:17:06.400 he's the most brilliant diplomat
00:17:08.080 since Bismarck,
00:17:10.560 I don't think Canadians will buy it.
00:17:14.140 Stay with us for more.
00:17:15.520 Our special guest, Gavin McInnes, is next.
00:17:30.940 Not be it proper at this time.
00:17:35.900 Shut this hearing down.
00:17:37.740 This hearing is an attack on women's rights
00:17:39.840 and an attack on democracy.
00:17:41.760 Shut this hearing down now.
00:17:43.760 I urge you to shut this hearing down.
00:17:46.340 I urge you to shut this hearing down.
00:17:47.940 Mr. President, I'm afraid for our democracy.
00:17:50.280 Indeed.
00:17:51.040 The candidates decide to go to it
00:17:53.060 to protect the people.
00:17:54.600 I dissent to the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh.
00:17:57.020 Kavanaugh must not be put on the court.
00:17:59.300 Well, that is an excerpt
00:18:05.820 from the longer, more riotous scene
00:18:08.780 on Capitol Hill yesterday
00:18:10.720 as Brett Kavanaugh, Donald Trump's nominee,
00:18:14.320 the second nominee for the Supreme Court
00:18:16.000 of the United States.
00:18:17.080 It's a new Democrat strategy
00:18:19.040 of shouting down, blocking, de-platforming
00:18:23.520 even mainstream conservative Republican picks.
00:18:27.660 This, by the way,
00:18:28.520 was not some random organic act.
00:18:31.380 Photos have emerged
00:18:32.260 of protesters literally being paid cash
00:18:34.980 to protest.
00:18:36.820 And the Democratic congressmen themselves
00:18:39.360 have acknowledged
00:18:40.240 that they coordinated in advance
00:18:42.800 with these street teams.
00:18:44.980 My thesis is that this is
00:18:46.920 merely the latest step
00:18:48.600 in the move of the left
00:18:49.500 to de-platform
00:18:51.160 anyone they don't like.
00:18:53.040 That is not to debate,
00:18:54.140 but to shut down.
00:18:55.060 First, they went for Alex Jones.
00:18:58.140 Now, they're coming for friends
00:18:59.300 like Gavin McInnes
00:19:00.480 and his Proud Boys fraternity.
00:19:03.320 Gavin joins us now via Skype
00:19:04.800 from New York.
00:19:05.740 Gavin, great to see you again.
00:19:07.640 Thank you for having me, sir.
00:19:08.800 I think that you were merely an appetizer
00:19:12.920 when you were kicked off Twitter,
00:19:14.700 when your Proud Boys were all kicked off Twitter,
00:19:16.800 when you have been de-platformed,
00:19:18.720 when they pepper-sprayed your face
00:19:20.340 when you went into New York University,
00:19:21.860 when you were,
00:19:24.300 I think the main reason
00:19:25.100 our cruise last year
00:19:26.400 was banned from Norwegian cruise lines,
00:19:28.480 this de-platforming of the right,
00:19:30.460 it's not actually aimed at you, Gavin.
00:19:32.460 It's aimed at anyone
00:19:34.060 who disagrees with the left.
00:19:35.440 You were just the test drive,
00:19:37.920 don't you think?
00:19:39.240 Yes, it's aimed at anyone on the right
00:19:41.560 who might help Trump get re-elected,
00:19:43.360 and that means appealing people
00:19:45.020 who are charming.
00:19:46.180 They're not concerned with Richard Spencer
00:19:48.320 because he has no appeal.
00:19:50.280 They're not concerned with David Duke.
00:19:52.720 They are concerned with funny people
00:19:55.020 who will have rational reasons
00:19:57.160 for their small government pro-Trump beliefs,
00:20:01.080 and it's not working.
00:20:05.020 What's not working?
00:20:06.320 Because I am terrified
00:20:07.740 by how well the de-platforming is working,
00:20:11.660 and I don't mean necessarily people being banned.
00:20:14.240 I mean, like, thrown out of buildings.
00:20:16.620 I'm terrified of the high-tech banning.
00:20:19.180 I mean, you were vaporized on Twitter
00:20:20.900 without warning, explanation, or appeal.
00:20:25.360 Tommy Robinson was kicked off Twitter
00:20:27.680 for the same reason.
00:20:28.820 Alex Jones was kicked off
00:20:29.800 just about every platform on the same day.
00:20:32.040 So I think it is working.
00:20:33.380 That's what scares me about it.
00:20:35.000 No, what's not working
00:20:36.100 is this push to delegitimize Trump
00:20:39.460 and to make people not like him anymore.
00:20:41.640 Trump is getting re-elected, I promise you.
00:20:44.120 And similarly in Canada,
00:20:45.780 Justin Trudeau is trying to censor
00:20:47.620 the mockery of him.
00:20:48.820 That's making him even less appealing.
00:20:50.940 So every time these people do things,
00:20:52.640 yes, it's inconvenient for us.
00:20:54.500 Yes, we need to find a new social media.
00:20:56.800 But our popularity keeps growing.
00:20:59.160 Alex Jones, the day after he was banned,
00:21:01.060 had the number one app on the entire internet.
00:21:04.020 Yeah, you're right.
00:21:05.400 And the thing about Alex Jones
00:21:06.340 is you mentioned a couple of fringe racists.
00:21:08.780 You mentioned Richard Spencer and David Duke.
00:21:10.960 Alex Jones is not a racist, obviously.
00:21:14.700 He engages in conspiracy theories.
00:21:17.660 But the way I see his place
00:21:20.260 in the conservative firmament
00:21:22.540 is he's a uniform.
00:21:27.220 He's an omnipresent skeptic.
00:21:29.780 He's an equal opportunity skeptic.
00:21:33.280 He calls BS on everything.
00:21:35.300 He disputes everything.
00:21:36.640 He doesn't believe anything.
00:21:39.800 Which I think,
00:21:41.340 if you have to be a sucker
00:21:42.480 who believes everything you say from authority,
00:21:45.200 or if you want to be a bit paranoid
00:21:46.800 and challenge anything you hear from authority,
00:21:49.780 these days it's probably better
00:21:51.660 to be a universal skeptic.
00:21:53.620 And does he go too far?
00:21:55.040 Sure.
00:21:55.340 Is it entertaining?
00:21:56.160 You bet.
00:21:56.800 But I believe that his use
00:21:58.980 is that he doesn't believe anything he reads.
00:22:02.680 And he gives airtime to any contrary view.
00:22:07.400 That's why he has a huge viewership,
00:22:10.040 unlike David Duke or Richard Spencer.
00:22:11.980 That's why they want to shut Alex Jones down,
00:22:14.120 because he actually is an important voice,
00:22:16.640 even though I think he goes too far,
00:22:17.980 obviously, on certain matters.
00:22:19.100 He's a little paranoid.
00:22:20.400 But he's a universal skeptic.
00:22:22.980 I think there's two things going on here,
00:22:24.520 and it's funny that you and I are talking about it,
00:22:25.960 because you're more into politics than me,
00:22:28.020 and I'm more into fun than you.
00:22:29.220 But both of those things are why he was banned.
00:22:34.060 He was banned for conspiracy theories,
00:22:35.500 and I agree with you.
00:22:36.500 What the hell's the matter with a conspiracy theory?
00:22:39.180 Watergate was a conspiracy theory before it was true.
00:22:42.120 You know, Vince Foster, then breaking into his office,
00:22:44.140 that was a conspiracy theory before it was confirmed.
00:22:47.160 Conspiring, a theory about conspiring, good.
00:22:50.480 Get some theories about conspiring.
00:22:52.020 I want the government to be under scrutiny.
00:22:53.740 But the second point is the fun.
00:22:55.600 He was hyperbolic.
00:22:56.640 He was screaming, throwing his papers at the camera.
00:22:59.580 He was banging the table.
00:23:00.560 He was ripping his shirt off.
00:23:01.900 He was colorful and fun.
00:23:03.640 He still is, obviously.
00:23:05.160 And this whole war, to make everyone think the same,
00:23:08.400 is ultimately a war on fun and a war on color.
00:23:11.780 I keep talking about this radio station in Austin
00:23:13.540 that's booting out all of these bands that might like Trump.
00:23:17.480 And what you end up with is Stalinist radio,
00:23:20.060 where every musician feels the same about every subject,
00:23:23.420 and every song is supporting the same agenda.
00:23:27.240 That's not what the West is about.
00:23:29.080 That's what the East is about.
00:23:30.600 Yeah.
00:23:30.980 You know, I saw this insane essay the other day about post-comedy,
00:23:36.920 where it has the trappings of a comedy routine,
00:23:41.420 but it's not funny.
00:23:42.660 And that's the comedy that will be left after we get rid of the,
00:23:47.860 I mean, you know, was it, who was it, Orwell,
00:23:50.480 or was it Solzhenitsyn who said,
00:23:52.040 every joke is a little revolution?
00:23:54.180 It was Solzhenitsyn.
00:23:55.160 Solzhenitsyn was sent to prison for making a joke in a private letter.
00:24:00.240 And all it was was a nickname.
00:24:01.480 He called Stalin the whiskered one.
00:24:03.980 That was enough to send him to Siberia.
00:24:06.300 That's how, I think we're getting to that kind of crazy mob rule again,
00:24:10.080 except for it's not one tyrant, it's the tyranny of the mob.
00:24:13.800 New York Times just had an article about this,
00:24:15.860 I believe it was yesterday,
00:24:17.100 that was complaining about private Facebook groups.
00:24:20.720 And they mentioned that I talked to my friends on private Facebook groups.
00:24:25.160 They talked about anti-vaccine, anti-vaccine people.
00:24:28.260 Now, obviously, you and I are on the same page with vaccines.
00:24:30.580 We support them, and I'm against the idea of not vaccinating your children.
00:24:34.500 But what I'm against more than that
00:24:36.260 is the concept that you're not allowed to privately criticize big pharma.
00:24:42.180 We're now at the point now where private discussions are under siege.
00:24:46.620 Soon they're going to be subpoenaing our texts and recording our conversations.
00:24:52.060 This is already treading into dark territory.
00:24:55.320 Well, I mean, as you know, Robert Spencer, not Richard Spencer,
00:24:59.060 the Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch, MasterCard,
00:25:02.060 I mean, they've backed down since,
00:25:03.180 but they just said, oh, we're not going to do any transactions with you,
00:25:06.300 as if MasterCard has morally reviews every single expenditure.
00:25:12.220 It would be like your cell phone company calling you up one day and saying,
00:25:15.600 hey, we don't like some of the conversations you're having on our cell phones,
00:25:18.940 so we're going to take away your phone number.
00:25:21.820 And you have to, and by the way, all the other cell phone companies are too,
00:25:25.000 because you've been saying some bad things.
00:25:26.880 That's the politicization of everything.
00:25:28.620 I don't want to take too much or more of your time,
00:25:30.640 because I know you're busy today, but let me show you a clip from those same
00:25:34.120 Brett Kavanaugh hearings on Capitol Hill.
00:25:37.860 There is a young woman, I think she's with the White House.
00:25:41.140 Her name is Zina Bash.
00:25:44.260 And let me show you, you can see...
00:25:47.120 I would give her an eight.
00:25:48.740 I think she's a Benjamin Buttons babe,
00:25:50.480 in that she's getting hotter as she gets older.
00:25:52.520 She's a very beautiful woman, and the name is Zina Bash,
00:25:56.500 as you can detect from it.
00:25:58.660 And let's play the B-roll of her sitting there.
00:26:04.400 She's behind Brett Kavanaugh on the right there, as you can see.
00:26:07.080 And she's just resting her fingers on her arm,
00:26:09.420 but it looks, I guess, if you're looking for some encoded hidden message,
00:26:18.160 it looks like she's making the OK symbol on her finger.
00:26:21.260 I guess if you're, like, who is that Dan fella
00:26:26.220 who had all these secret cryptic things at the Louvre,
00:26:30.380 you know, these, oh, I'm just trying to remember the name of his awful
00:26:33.340 pulp fiction novels about these Vatican conspiracies.
00:26:36.840 Anyways, if you're looking for a secret symbol, that apparently is it.
00:26:41.120 And look at this tweet.
00:26:42.320 Look at this tweet about what Zina Bash did with her fingers.
00:26:48.160 More context for the Zina Bash incident during the Kavanaugh hearing.
00:26:53.800 She is sitting normally, then checks her phone to read something.
00:26:57.280 Some are saying a text, but we have no confirmation.
00:27:00.200 Then she holds the pose at issue for over 30 seconds with a slight smirk.
00:27:06.520 You be the judge.
00:27:08.960 Dan Brown, that's the name of who I'm thinking about,
00:27:11.600 the conspiracy theorist fiction writer.
00:27:14.020 So talk about conspiracy.
00:27:15.080 Who has more of a conspiracy theory, Gavin?
00:27:18.160 Is it Alex Jones, who's asking questions about government?
00:27:24.440 Or is it some kook on the left who thinks that that Jewish Mexican lawyer
00:27:29.040 who puts her finger like this for a second,
00:27:34.380 is tweeting out, I'm not even kidding,
00:27:36.840 they're implying it is a white power signal.
00:27:40.940 They're implying even more.
00:27:42.600 They're implying that the text said something like,
00:27:44.960 it is time.
00:27:46.800 And then like, hashtag WP or something.
00:27:50.400 All right, it's time to do it.
00:27:52.340 But I think you and I might differ a tiny bit on this.
00:27:55.400 You think they're being willfully ignorant and pretending that they believe that that is a thing.
00:28:00.960 I disagree.
00:28:02.440 Like, if this was the Salem witch trials,
00:28:04.260 you're saying they're calling that person a witch just because they want to kill them.
00:28:07.420 I think they actually believe this person is a witch.
00:28:09.840 I think they believe that there was a text.
00:28:12.740 And I saw other tweets from Occupy Democrats and big companies,
00:28:16.660 pretty mainstream leftist groups saying,
00:28:18.860 they're not even trying to hide it anymore.
00:28:21.180 They're rubbing it in our faces.
00:28:22.640 I think they believe what they're screaming.
00:28:26.100 You know, maybe it's a bit of both.
00:28:27.960 Maybe some people believe that a Jewish Mexican lawyer,
00:28:31.900 female woman, not male women,
00:28:34.960 but there's so many little check marks there.
00:28:36.700 Jewish, check.
00:28:37.480 Mexican, check.
00:28:38.680 Female, check.
00:28:39.800 That she is a white power advocate.
00:28:42.520 Some people believe that.
00:28:43.300 But other people say, you know what?
00:28:44.920 We've just got to step on the Brett Kavanaugh hearings.
00:28:47.460 We've got to throw it in the air.
00:28:49.220 They've got 300 million Americans,
00:28:50.720 you know, maybe half a million people will believe it
00:28:53.600 and we'll just rev up our base.
00:28:55.820 And I think a lot of it's fake.
00:28:57.880 But, you know, I think what they're trying to do
00:29:02.680 is they're trying to Proud Boys-ify.
00:29:04.640 They're trying to Gavin McInnes-ify, Alex Jones-ify,
00:29:08.180 an accomplished young woman Hispanic lawyer in the White House.
00:29:11.700 That's how far gone they are.
00:29:12.920 Last word to you, Gavin.
00:29:14.960 You know what it is also?
00:29:16.280 It's projection.
00:29:16.880 They do hide symbols in media.
00:29:20.380 They do, these writers for shows,
00:29:22.860 they will tell you later that that character was trans
00:29:25.560 or this person was gay.
00:29:26.520 Or even the guy who wrote Star Wars
00:29:27.980 said that the Darth Vader and the Empire
00:29:30.080 was meant to be white nationalism.
00:29:33.760 And that's really what the message was.
00:29:36.180 Or there was, speaking of Proud Boys,
00:29:37.380 there's this guy Josh Androsky, I believe is his name.
00:29:40.140 And he's the one who got them kicked out of this bar in L.A.,
00:29:42.980 which we're legally pursuing.
00:29:44.720 And he admits on podcasts very openly,
00:29:47.560 when he wrote for SpongeBob SquarePants,
00:29:50.280 that he would sneak in communist and socialist messages into SpongeBob.
00:29:55.460 And then you look at Sam Hyde,
00:29:57.180 who was booted from Adult Swim because someone lied
00:30:00.700 and said he was sneaking in secret swastikas and alt-right messages,
00:30:05.860 which he absolutely, unequivocally was not.
00:30:09.100 So they are accusing us of doing what they do on a regular basis.
00:30:12.880 Yeah, you know, it's so funny, the amount of outrage over this little hand symbol,
00:30:18.100 which isn't even, like, that's the letter F in sign language,
00:30:20.600 or it's okay or fantastic in common parlance.
00:30:23.560 Louis Farrakhan, the head of the Nation of Islam,
00:30:26.780 was sitting next to Bill Clinton at Aretha Franklin's funeral.
00:30:31.240 Out and out racist.
00:30:32.300 He's really a black Klansman.
00:30:34.460 That was just edited out of the whole thing.
00:30:37.240 But an innocent non-gesture, that's dominant news.
00:30:42.240 We're living in crazy times.
00:30:43.520 I hope you keep fighting the fight down there, Gavin.
00:30:46.500 I always will, my friend.
00:30:47.920 All right, thanks for taking the time.
00:30:49.140 There you have it.
00:30:50.060 Gavin McInnes, he has a show called Get Off My Lawn on CRTV,
00:30:54.220 and what a pleasure to talk to him today via Skype.
00:30:56.440 Stay with us.
00:30:57.320 More ahead on The Rebel.
00:30:58.120 Hey, guys, we're trying out something new.
00:31:10.500 We're going to switch to one guest a day,
00:31:13.280 because I don't think people are watching the whole show through.
00:31:17.280 I see that on our viewer analytics.
00:31:19.760 We get statistics how long people watch the show,
00:31:22.120 and everyone watches the monologue, more or less.
00:31:25.120 But I don't think people are sticking around for the second guest.
00:31:27.920 So I think we're going to do one solid guest every day,
00:31:30.800 not that some of them aren't solid.
00:31:33.100 And we're going to see how people like it,
00:31:35.060 and you let me know.
00:31:35.820 Send me letters, what you think.
00:31:37.480 Tomorrow we've got a great guest lined up.
00:31:39.300 I think we're working on it.
00:31:40.120 We haven't confirmed him, but a real fan favor.
00:31:44.060 Let me know how it goes.
00:31:45.500 And if that's the right balance, you know,
00:31:48.240 a 20-minute monologue and, let's say, a 15-minute solid interview,
00:31:51.600 we'll do it that way.
00:31:52.480 If you really want me to have two shorter guests, you let me know.
00:31:55.560 But as we're trying that out for the new season, let me know.
00:31:59.940 Here's your viewer feedback on the topic of Andrew Scheer
00:32:02.840 and the importance of conservatives working together.
00:32:05.780 Suzanne writes,
00:32:06.500 I'm a longtime subscriber to The Rebel
00:32:08.760 and truly believe you are a vital megaphone
00:32:11.100 for conservative voices in our country.
00:32:13.420 I've also been to a few Rebel events in the Toronto area,
00:32:15.880 which I always find informative and entertaining.
00:32:18.720 But you need to get on board with Scheer,
00:32:20.600 and here are some of the reasons why.
00:32:22.920 With Jagmeet Singh being a weak NDP leader
00:32:25.180 and likely to be unpopular with Quebecers,
00:32:27.160 we can't count on any splitting of the left vote
00:32:29.280 to help us beat Trudeau.
00:32:30.480 As for being personas non grata at the conservative convention,
00:32:34.800 you have to own some responsibility
00:32:36.220 for making The Rebel a liability there.
00:32:38.740 Ignoring all the outstanding journalism you do,
00:32:40.820 I could just see the CBC dragging out footage of you,
00:32:44.260 basically calling the PM's mother a whore,
00:32:46.960 painting you and The Rebel as fringe,
00:32:49.380 and pulling focus from the whole event.
00:32:52.420 With regard to supply management in the dairy industry,
00:32:55.180 I don't think that's a hill to die on
00:32:56.960 for any wise Canadian politician.
00:32:58.400 I believe it's highly probable the Americans will stand firm
00:33:01.420 on that issue in the negotiating of our next trade agreement.
00:33:04.380 I can easily see a scenario where Maxime Bernier gets his way
00:33:07.260 without any Canadian politician having to wear it.
00:33:10.320 Hate to be so political,
00:33:11.640 but I'm just looking at the long game.
00:33:13.760 If ever there were a time for conservatives in Canada
00:33:16.100 to stick together, it's now.
00:33:18.760 Well, Suzanne, first of all,
00:33:20.120 let me thank you for your support.
00:33:22.000 You're obviously a Rebel Premium subscriber,
00:33:24.520 and you've been to our events,
00:33:26.560 and I'm sure we've said hello in person,
00:33:28.920 so thank you.
00:33:30.700 And I see your letter is written in good faith,
00:33:32.880 and you share our objective,
00:33:34.980 get rid of Justin Trudeau.
00:33:37.820 It's not actually our main objective here at The Rebel.
00:33:39.940 Our main objective here at The Rebel
00:33:41.060 is to be the other side of the story,
00:33:43.440 a conservative opinion and news site
00:33:45.660 with some activism thrown in.
00:33:47.040 We're not a partisan tool,
00:33:49.900 although obviously we support parties of the right.
00:33:53.080 Part of our job,
00:33:54.720 in addition to supporting parties of the right,
00:33:57.520 is to ensure that they are indeed conservative
00:33:59.620 and criticize them when they're not,
00:34:01.620 because if we don't,
00:34:02.940 no one else will.
00:34:04.360 In Canada, conservative parties
00:34:05.660 are already always criticized from the left,
00:34:08.260 and they all start bending that way
00:34:10.440 just out of peer pressure.
00:34:11.780 That's what happened on the carbon tax issue.
00:34:13.340 Our job is to stiffen the spine of conservatives
00:34:16.660 so at least they can go straight
00:34:18.220 instead of curving to the left.
00:34:19.940 Secondly, I see another one of our roles
00:34:21.940 is to talk about the untalkable things
00:34:24.260 to make them a legitimate part
00:34:26.560 of the national conversation.
00:34:27.980 I think refugees and immigration
00:34:29.580 is an obvious point, M-103,
00:34:31.680 the censorship motion,
00:34:32.700 even the carbon tax.
00:34:34.300 Two years ago,
00:34:36.120 conservatives were stampeding
00:34:37.300 towards the carbon tax position,
00:34:39.540 whether it was Michael Chong
00:34:42.240 or Andrew Coyne in the National Post
00:34:44.640 or Preston Manning
00:34:46.240 or Patrick Brown,
00:34:47.200 and you can scoff
00:34:48.060 and say none of those people
00:34:49.380 are real conservatives.
00:34:50.640 Well, they sure looked
00:34:51.940 like they had the feeling of momentum.
00:34:54.660 It was up to us,
00:34:55.600 the grubby rebels,
00:34:56.840 and we had our anti-carbon tax posters
00:34:59.560 and lawn signs and rallies.
00:35:02.020 So part of our job
00:35:03.160 is to soften up the battlefield,
00:35:05.540 shape the battlefield,
00:35:07.020 to get people talking about things
00:35:08.700 to make it easier
00:35:09.580 for scaredy-cat politicians
00:35:11.660 to get in front of the parade
00:35:13.500 that we've already mustered.
00:35:14.620 I believe that the rebel
00:35:16.040 deserves some credit
00:35:17.520 for the fact that Ontario's
00:35:19.680 premier, Doug Ford,
00:35:21.240 is anti-carbon tax.
00:35:22.440 I believe we helped shape
00:35:23.680 that issue
00:35:24.820 in the Ontario provincial debate.
00:35:27.380 But, so that's our role.
00:35:28.800 I don't see our role
00:35:29.420 as merely being a repeater
00:35:30.660 for the Conservative Party.
00:35:32.900 We support the Conservatives
00:35:34.120 when they're Conservative,
00:35:34.820 but we pull them to the right
00:35:35.800 when they're not.
00:35:36.560 And we talk about things
00:35:37.720 that are too spicy
00:35:38.400 for them to say,
00:35:39.640 and we normalize those subjects.
00:35:41.520 We move the Overton window,
00:35:43.100 as they say.
00:35:44.420 But as to your specifics,
00:35:46.240 I mean, I recall
00:35:47.780 what you're talking about.
00:35:48.920 I remember doing a video
00:35:50.140 back in, was it 2012,
00:35:53.400 about Justin Trudeau's mom,
00:35:55.800 who was unfaithful
00:35:57.720 to Pierre Trudeau
00:35:58.440 as he was to her,
00:35:59.680 and she went to New York
00:36:01.100 and partied and slept around.
00:36:03.220 They both had affairs
00:36:03.900 on each other.
00:36:04.240 It was, I remember
00:36:05.820 doing that video
00:36:06.800 at The Sun,
00:36:07.480 I think it was
00:36:08.220 six or seven years ago.
00:36:10.280 And it went to
00:36:12.360 how Justin Trudeau
00:36:13.580 sees women,
00:36:14.320 and we now know
00:36:15.060 that Justin Trudeau,
00:36:16.200 like his dad,
00:36:16.920 is a groper.
00:36:19.700 I stand by that journalism.
00:36:21.400 I think it was
00:36:22.040 legitimate journalism,
00:36:24.200 especially when
00:36:24.960 Justin Trudeau
00:36:25.880 claims to be a feminist,
00:36:27.960 to scrutinize
00:36:30.080 his own conduct.
00:36:30.980 And I think it's fair
00:36:31.960 to remind people
00:36:33.600 of what his role model
00:36:38.600 for a family was like.
00:36:40.480 I don't know
00:36:41.120 if you recall,
00:36:41.760 but Pierre Trudeau
00:36:42.820 physically beat
00:36:44.600 Margaret Trudeau
00:36:45.840 so bad that she
00:36:46.720 would have a black eye.
00:36:48.020 Maybe you don't think
00:36:48.660 that's relevant,
00:36:49.180 and maybe it's not,
00:36:49.900 but I think
00:36:50.300 for a story we did
00:36:52.220 on that back
00:36:52.820 in 2001 or 2002,
00:36:54.980 to claim that
00:36:57.000 that would be
00:36:57.960 a reason why
00:36:59.320 Sheila Gunn-Reed
00:37:01.100 in 2018
00:37:03.240 shouldn't be allowed
00:37:05.720 to attend the rebel.
00:37:07.560 That's crazy.
00:37:09.660 That would be like saying
00:37:10.920 every single
00:37:12.920 CBC journalist
00:37:14.380 should be banned
00:37:15.660 because
00:37:17.180 Xi'an Gomeshi
00:37:18.720 beat women also.
00:37:20.560 Is that why
00:37:22.660 you would ban
00:37:23.400 reporter number two
00:37:26.340 because reporter number one
00:37:27.800 did something bad
00:37:28.600 a year ago?
00:37:28.900 I don't even think
00:37:29.600 my report seven years ago
00:37:31.240 was bad.
00:37:32.700 But to justify
00:37:33.760 banning Sheila Gunn-Reed
00:37:35.960 because of that,
00:37:37.060 that's the mistake
00:37:38.260 that Andrew Scheer's team
00:37:39.360 has made,
00:37:40.100 and I've talked about
00:37:40.760 this before.
00:37:42.140 Banning the rebel
00:37:42.980 was not because
00:37:43.620 we've done anything,
00:37:45.220 and even if they disagree
00:37:46.560 with our opinions,
00:37:48.320 so what?
00:37:49.280 Allowing journalists
00:37:51.820 to come to your event
00:37:52.620 doesn't mean you agree
00:37:53.460 with their opinions.
00:37:54.980 But the fact that
00:37:55.960 you're so scared
00:37:57.500 about what the CBC
00:37:59.440 or the liberals
00:38:00.060 might say or do
00:38:00.880 because of like
00:38:02.220 five degrees of separation,
00:38:03.880 Ezra,
00:38:04.460 when you were at the Sun
00:38:05.680 seven years ago,
00:38:06.940 you did a video
00:38:07.920 about Margaret Trudeau
00:38:09.560 sleeping around,
00:38:10.760 and sure,
00:38:11.160 it was factually true,
00:38:12.540 but in 2000,
00:38:13.520 I mean,
00:38:13.760 it's just so obscure.
00:38:15.480 Do you see how
00:38:16.220 your mind
00:38:16.860 has been colonized
00:38:18.100 by the media party
00:38:19.560 and you have
00:38:20.340 a form of
00:38:20.900 Stockholm Syndrome
00:38:21.680 and you are now
00:38:22.940 doing their bidding
00:38:23.880 and you are now
00:38:24.580 marginalizing
00:38:25.640 the media of the right
00:38:27.440 at the party
00:38:28.480 of the right
00:38:28.980 on the behest
00:38:31.440 of the media
00:38:33.420 of the left?
00:38:34.000 Anyway,
00:38:34.140 I disagree with
00:38:34.740 your conclusion.
00:38:35.720 I disagree with it.
00:38:37.120 And I know
00:38:38.180 that Andrew Scheer's
00:38:39.220 views were not shared
00:38:40.260 by many people
00:38:41.600 in this party at all.
00:38:42.420 we had hundreds
00:38:43.300 of conservative
00:38:44.040 delegates come by
00:38:45.260 our hospitality suite
00:38:46.380 and we had Andrew Scheer's
00:38:47.520 own staff tell us
00:38:49.220 they disagreed
00:38:49.760 with their boss.
00:38:50.480 So being a timid conservative
00:38:53.320 is not being
00:38:54.880 a real conservative
00:38:55.680 and it's not going
00:38:57.260 to win, Suzanne.
00:38:58.140 Let me close on that point.
00:39:00.560 Even if we did
00:39:01.520 everything in your advice,
00:39:04.400 Andrew Scheer ain't going
00:39:05.140 to win by being
00:39:05.840 a timid knockoff.
00:39:07.740 That would be like saying,
00:39:09.060 just be like Marco Rubio.
00:39:10.400 Just be like Jeb Bush.
00:39:13.380 Just be like Mitt Romney.
00:39:14.760 Don't be like Donald Trump.
00:39:17.180 Jeb Bush will do it.
00:39:18.680 Marco Rubio will do it.
00:39:20.020 No, no, no.
00:39:20.680 Don't you see, Suzanne,
00:39:22.220 that the left
00:39:22.880 will demonize
00:39:23.940 and destroy anyone
00:39:26.180 no matter how kindly
00:39:27.720 and moderate they are.
00:39:29.160 They did to Stockwell Day.
00:39:30.820 They did to Preston Manning.
00:39:32.220 They did to John McCain.
00:39:34.420 When those people
00:39:35.260 are all retired
00:39:36.060 or in John McCain's case,
00:39:37.780 dead,
00:39:38.800 then they lavish them
00:39:39.880 with praise.
00:39:40.940 But no matter what we do
00:39:42.660 and no matter what
00:39:43.680 Andrew Scheer does,
00:39:45.140 the media party
00:39:46.100 will despise us
00:39:47.200 no matter what.
00:39:48.200 So why don't we
00:39:48.860 just do what we do?
00:39:50.800 That's a very long answer
00:39:51.900 to a long question.
00:39:53.680 Until tomorrow,
00:39:54.580 on behalf of all of us
00:39:55.420 here at Rebel World
00:39:56.060 Headquarters,
00:39:56.640 good night
00:39:56.960 and keep fighting for freedom.
00:39:58.700 Take a listen to this one
00:40:15.280 and take a listen.
00:40:17.380 That's how it's gonna happen.