Rebel News Podcast - April 10, 2021


Trudeau’s Liberals say they will legally censor anyone who “taunts” them — so, it was nice knowing you!


Episode Stats

Length

42 minutes

Words per Minute

165.5254

Word Count

6,986

Sentence Count

267

Misogynist Sentences

11

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

Justin Trudeau's Liberals have been telling us for months that they are coming to censor the internet. They ve been warning us about it for months, and now they ve got a plan that includes a nuclear option. That's his word, and you know he's coming for us.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends, don't say the liberals didn't warn you.
00:00:02.800 They're actually pretty good about warning us
00:00:04.480 about the worst things they're going to do.
00:00:06.260 The carbon tax, for example, they told us that was coming.
00:00:09.660 Well, they've been telling us for months
00:00:10.860 that they're coming to censor the internet.
00:00:13.520 They're explaining how and how hard.
00:00:16.900 And today I'm going to show you the heritage minister saying
00:00:19.020 he has an extreme idea, that's his word,
00:00:22.840 that includes a nuclear option.
00:00:25.200 That's his word.
00:00:26.400 I'll tell you what that is.
00:00:27.960 And you know he's coming for us, right?
00:00:30.000 That's today's podcast.
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00:01:15.100 All right, my friends.
00:01:15.820 Here's today's podcast.
00:01:16.560 Tonight, Trudeau's liberals say
00:01:34.020 they will legally censor anyone who taunts them.
00:01:38.340 So anyways, nice being knowing you.
00:01:40.600 It's April 9th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:42.960 Why should others go to jail
00:01:46.400 when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:48.620 There's 8,500 customers here,
00:01:50.900 and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:52.680 The only thing I have to say to the government
00:01:54.620 about why I publish it
00:01:56.180 is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:02:03.540 Sometimes politicians ambush you.
00:02:05.960 They say one thing,
00:02:06.860 and then after they get what they want from you,
00:02:08.640 your vote,
00:02:09.200 they reveal their true colors as in their liars.
00:02:12.780 Like all politicians,
00:02:13.900 Trudeau is a bit of a liar,
00:02:15.040 but I have to give him some credit
00:02:16.560 where it's due.
00:02:17.580 In many cases,
00:02:19.160 he really does tell us in advance
00:02:21.040 what he is going to do to us.
00:02:23.200 He told us,
00:02:24.020 even before he was Liberal Party leader,
00:02:26.420 that China was his favorite country.
00:02:28.640 There's a level of admiration
00:02:31.080 I actually have for China
00:02:32.860 because their basic dictatorship
00:02:38.160 is allowing them
00:02:39.660 to actually turn their economy around on a dime.
00:02:42.760 Trudeau told us
00:02:43.660 that he loved marijuana so much
00:02:46.000 that he didn't want to just decriminalize it.
00:02:48.700 He wanted to legalize it.
00:02:50.420 He told us.
00:02:50.980 I have been in my past
00:02:52.520 a very rare user of marijuana.
00:02:55.820 I think five or six times in my life
00:02:57.520 that I've taken a puff.
00:02:58.840 As has been said many times,
00:03:01.340 the legalization of marijuana
00:03:02.700 is not an event.
00:03:05.380 It's a process.
00:03:07.120 And as we do that,
00:03:08.300 we will continue to move forward
00:03:10.940 and be responsive to challenges
00:03:12.980 that come up
00:03:13.600 and opportunities that come up.
00:03:15.280 But I need to reiterate
00:03:16.700 the importance of moving forward
00:03:19.740 as planned this summer
00:03:21.840 on the legalization
00:03:23.640 and control of marijuana.
00:03:25.020 Trudeau told us countless times
00:03:26.860 that he was going to bring in a carbon tax.
00:03:29.800 I mean, sure,
00:03:30.180 he lied about the details.
00:03:31.580 He lied about the rate.
00:03:32.780 He would jack it up.
00:03:33.840 But I can't say
00:03:36.280 that any of his carbon tax stuff
00:03:38.440 has really been an ambush.
00:03:40.620 The guy poses for pictures
00:03:42.300 with George Soros.
00:03:43.460 He goes on TV
00:03:45.120 to tell the United Nations
00:03:46.520 that he's excited
00:03:48.000 about their great reset.
00:03:50.320 This pandemic has provided
00:03:51.600 an opportunity for a reset.
00:03:53.760 There's a certain honesty
00:03:55.100 to Trudeau's corruption,
00:03:56.260 whereas lesser liars
00:03:57.860 like Aaron O'Toole
00:03:58.760 campaign on one thing
00:04:00.140 and then do another.
00:04:01.500 Trudeau's views on,
00:04:02.860 well, I mean,
00:04:03.320 Aaron O'Toole, for example,
00:04:04.400 on cancel culture
00:04:05.660 or global warming
00:04:06.420 or foreign aid
00:04:07.180 or CBC funding,
00:04:07.940 those are a few examples there.
00:04:09.420 But my point is,
00:04:10.260 for months,
00:04:11.720 we've been watching Trudeau
00:04:13.040 get things in line
00:04:14.780 for his massive new
00:04:16.200 censorship program.
00:04:18.320 He has not been hiding it,
00:04:19.940 is my point.
00:04:20.860 It's not an ambush.
00:04:22.100 It is coming.
00:04:22.860 The greatest censorship
00:04:25.360 of Canadian media
00:04:26.320 since the Second World War
00:04:28.160 when military censors
00:04:29.280 reviewed every newspaper
00:04:30.580 in the country
00:04:31.040 before publishing.
00:04:32.860 But that was only
00:04:33.440 to protect military secrets,
00:04:35.080 not to quell political debates.
00:04:37.260 Trudeau has been working
00:04:38.320 on this censorship
00:04:39.280 for years.
00:04:40.340 In fact,
00:04:41.260 for several years,
00:04:42.560 it has been part of
00:04:43.800 Stephen Gilbeau's mandate letter.
00:04:46.160 He's the heritage minister.
00:04:48.100 The very second priority
00:04:49.700 has been censorship.
00:04:50.580 So first,
00:04:52.860 Trudeau softened up his targets
00:04:54.260 by boosting his annual grant
00:04:56.100 to the CBC
00:04:56.760 and by putting the country's newspapers
00:04:58.780 on his payroll
00:04:59.700 through the media bailout.
00:05:01.800 I mean,
00:05:02.020 once you agree to take his money,
00:05:03.400 you can't really oppose
00:05:04.240 your new boss,
00:05:05.340 can you?
00:05:06.460 It's like asking
00:05:07.480 the mafia for a favor.
00:05:09.620 All right,
00:05:10.420 but then you're indebted
00:05:11.420 to them forever.
00:05:12.580 So the CBC has always
00:05:14.160 been in Trudeau's pocket,
00:05:16.000 but now 99%
00:05:17.040 of the rest of the media
00:05:18.140 is in Trudeau's pocket too.
00:05:20.500 It's just a few
00:05:21.200 online outfits
00:05:22.300 like us at Rebel News
00:05:23.620 and True North
00:05:24.840 and Black Locks,
00:05:26.760 Western Standard Online
00:05:27.980 in Alberta,
00:05:28.780 The Breaker.
00:05:30.160 It's almost it,
00:05:31.480 Spencer Fernando.
00:05:32.420 A handful.
00:05:34.420 But more than 99%
00:05:37.500 of the media in Canada
00:05:38.540 is under direct liberal control
00:05:40.100 through money.
00:05:41.400 But that last 1%,
00:05:43.180 that seems to mean
00:05:45.400 everything to Trudeau
00:05:46.360 because you can have
00:05:47.920 a dark room
00:05:48.740 with 100 candles in it
00:05:50.920 and you can snuff out
00:05:52.600 99 of those candles.
00:05:55.620 But if there's just
00:05:56.880 one candle
00:05:57.940 that's still burning,
00:06:00.460 the room's not dark,
00:06:02.080 is it?
00:06:02.420 As long as
00:06:04.420 one last candle
00:06:06.420 is lit,
00:06:07.000 there is still light,
00:06:07.920 isn't there?
00:06:09.300 And if you want darkness
00:06:10.900 because you don't want
00:06:11.900 scrutiny
00:06:12.240 and you don't want
00:06:13.240 criticism
00:06:13.740 and you don't want
00:06:14.680 opposition,
00:06:15.540 then actually
00:06:16.420 that last candle,
00:06:18.980 that last holdout,
00:06:21.160 it absolutely has to be
00:06:23.360 snuffed out at all costs.
00:06:24.680 It's actually more important
00:06:25.740 than the first 99,
00:06:27.060 isn't it?
00:06:29.060 Well, here they come
00:06:29.920 to try and snuff us out.
00:06:30.900 Look at this story
00:06:32.420 in Black Locks today.
00:06:35.040 Will censor
00:06:35.740 political taunts?
00:06:36.760 Federal internet censors
00:06:38.020 should target hurtful words
00:06:39.760 against politicians,
00:06:41.040 says Heritage Minister
00:06:42.120 Stephen Gilboa.
00:06:43.520 The minister added
00:06:44.500 pending regulations
00:06:45.340 may include
00:06:45.940 an internet
00:06:46.560 kill switch
00:06:48.040 to block websites
00:06:49.600 deemed hurtful
00:06:50.900 but called it
00:06:51.440 a nuclear option.
00:06:53.020 Oh my God.
00:06:54.040 Let me read the first
00:06:54.740 five paragraphs
00:06:55.460 to you from this story.
00:06:56.280 They're stunning,
00:06:56.960 actually.
00:06:57.800 So just don't say
00:06:58.920 you weren't warned,
00:06:59.620 right?
00:07:01.160 We have seen
00:07:01.840 too many examples
00:07:02.640 of public officials
00:07:03.440 retreating from public service
00:07:05.140 due to the hateful
00:07:07.460 online content
00:07:08.280 targeted towards themselves
00:07:09.300 or even their families,
00:07:10.640 said Gilboa.
00:07:12.480 I have seen firsthand
00:07:14.280 alongside other Canadians
00:07:15.420 the damaging effects
00:07:16.400 harmful content
00:07:17.560 has on our families,
00:07:18.700 our values,
00:07:19.260 and our institutions.
00:07:19.920 As a dad
00:07:20.780 and a stepdad
00:07:21.800 to six kids,
00:07:22.520 I know more
00:07:23.300 can and should be done
00:07:24.480 to create a safer
00:07:25.140 online environment.
00:07:27.520 Gilboa made his remarks
00:07:28.500 in a podcast
00:07:29.040 sponsored by Canada 2020,
00:07:30.900 an Ottawa think tank
00:07:31.580 affiliated with the Liberal Party.
00:07:33.480 Legislation to censor
00:07:34.380 internet content
00:07:35.000 will be introduced shortly,
00:07:36.040 he said.
00:07:36.420 I am confident
00:07:38.640 we can get this adopted,
00:07:39.980 said Gilboa.
00:07:40.760 Once the legislation
00:07:41.700 is adopted,
00:07:42.380 clearly creating a new body,
00:07:44.260 a new regulator
00:07:44.960 like that in Canada
00:07:45.780 would take some time.
00:07:47.460 Could we envision
00:07:48.140 having blocking orders?
00:07:49.760 Maybe,
00:07:50.380 he said.
00:07:51.280 It would likely be
00:07:52.020 a last resort,
00:07:52.760 a nuclear bomb
00:07:53.500 in a toolbox of mechanisms
00:07:54.820 for a regulator.
00:07:56.120 It's pretty extreme,
00:07:57.360 but theoretically
00:07:58.040 it is a tool
00:07:58.720 that is out there
00:07:59.440 and could potentially
00:08:00.240 be used,
00:08:00.760 said Gilboa,
00:08:01.380 but really no decisions
00:08:02.560 have been made on that.
00:08:04.140 This is something
00:08:04.840 you would see
00:08:05.420 as part of the regulations
00:08:06.780 most likely.
00:08:08.700 Okay,
00:08:08.960 stop for a moment.
00:08:10.440 He's admitting
00:08:11.140 it's an extreme idea,
00:08:13.040 it would be extreme censorship.
00:08:14.480 He used that word.
00:08:15.820 He compared it
00:08:16.540 to a nuclear bomb,
00:08:17.800 not to take down
00:08:18.960 terrorist websites,
00:08:20.060 not to take down
00:08:20.620 child pornography websites,
00:08:22.140 but to take down
00:08:23.120 comments by people
00:08:24.920 who are politically mean
00:08:26.380 to liberal politicians.
00:08:28.240 Internet censors
00:08:29.140 should have federal powers
00:08:32.020 to delete content piecemeal,
00:08:33.960 said Gilboa.
00:08:35.640 There is this notion
00:08:36.780 of a 24-hour takedown,
00:08:38.020 he said.
00:08:38.500 This is something
00:08:39.040 we want to do in Canada.
00:08:40.620 On online platforms,
00:08:42.160 when something is posted there,
00:08:43.540 it can stay there
00:08:44.180 for a very long time,
00:08:45.100 he said.
00:08:45.720 It can get reproduced
00:08:46.900 and shared and re-shared
00:08:47.760 hundreds,
00:08:48.500 thousands,
00:08:49.120 hundreds of thousands
00:08:49.720 of times,
00:08:50.300 and it's very difficult
00:08:51.120 for people,
00:08:51.900 individual citizens,
00:08:52.740 to have any control over it.
00:08:54.380 So we want to shift
00:08:55.180 the burden from people
00:08:56.040 to the platform.
00:08:58.100 The thing is that
00:08:59.000 that's not new.
00:09:01.100 Threats or defamation
00:09:02.460 or any other word crime,
00:09:04.920 a forgery,
00:09:05.660 a copyright violation,
00:09:06.920 whatever,
00:09:07.740 can be seen thousands
00:09:08.940 of times before the law
00:09:10.140 catches up to it.
00:09:11.800 Maybe you saw that smear
00:09:12.800 the other day
00:09:13.300 that 60 Minutes
00:09:14.100 just tried to do
00:09:14.720 to Ron DeSantis,
00:09:15.500 the governor of Florida.
00:09:16.140 I bet 10 million people
00:09:18.420 saw that.
00:09:20.420 Okay, the law
00:09:20.960 will catch up to them.
00:09:22.540 Books once published
00:09:23.660 last decade,
00:09:24.720 centuries even.
00:09:25.620 So nothing he's talking
00:09:27.000 about is new.
00:09:28.460 The law can catch up.
00:09:29.720 It already has.
00:09:30.220 YouTube, Facebook, Twitter.
00:09:31.520 They're not brand new,
00:09:32.340 by the way.
00:09:32.740 They're all over
00:09:33.160 a decade old.
00:09:33.780 Facebook,
00:09:34.580 if you can believe it,
00:09:35.280 it's 17 years old now.
00:09:37.500 You can sue someone
00:09:38.660 for a Facebook post
00:09:39.660 if it breaks the law.
00:09:40.920 Police can respond
00:09:41.700 to a death threat
00:09:42.500 made on Facebook
00:09:43.280 just like they would
00:09:44.260 if the death threat
00:09:44.980 was made on a piece of paper
00:09:46.040 or the telephone
00:09:47.140 on the radio or whatever.
00:09:49.300 All that's new here
00:09:50.680 is a politician
00:09:52.000 who's getting more
00:09:52.700 and more comfortable
00:09:53.420 ordering the internet
00:09:54.580 to erase his opponents.
00:09:56.420 The internet is actually
00:09:57.360 not new.
00:09:57.880 It's about 30 years old
00:09:59.460 in terms of the popular internet.
00:10:01.200 That's not new.
00:10:02.160 What's new is politicians
00:10:03.580 saying,
00:10:05.080 I want the power
00:10:05.840 to censor.
00:10:06.600 I mean,
00:10:07.260 Gilboa has dreamed
00:10:08.160 for years
00:10:09.180 of censoring his political enemies.
00:10:10.420 Look at this
00:10:10.900 weird tweet
00:10:12.040 from him
00:10:12.580 years ago.
00:10:14.120 He said,
00:10:15.140 Discus hosts
00:10:16.540 Breitbart's racist,
00:10:17.880 sexist cesspool
00:10:19.040 of a comment section
00:10:19.960 and doesn't seem
00:10:21.220 to have a problem
00:10:22.000 with it.
00:10:23.500 So he wants
00:10:24.840 to delete
00:10:25.340 an entire comment section
00:10:27.060 of a media company
00:10:29.020 in another country,
00:10:30.080 no less.
00:10:30.700 He's trying to
00:10:31.660 de-platform
00:10:32.720 a news website
00:10:33.480 in another country
00:10:34.280 and he's wanted this
00:10:35.160 for years.
00:10:35.920 That was him
00:10:36.360 four years ago
00:10:36.900 but now he's doing it.
00:10:38.760 And he wants
00:10:39.460 to be able to do it
00:10:40.200 in 24 hours.
00:10:41.120 Why 24 hours?
00:10:42.920 I can see
00:10:43.480 taking down
00:10:43.940 a terrorist threat
00:10:44.740 or a death threat
00:10:45.640 really quickly
00:10:46.540 like that.
00:10:47.300 I don't think
00:10:47.940 Facebook would need
00:10:49.100 a politician
00:10:50.060 to tell them
00:10:50.600 to do that
00:10:51.180 but you heard
00:10:52.240 Gilboa,
00:10:52.640 he wants to do
00:10:53.360 that for taunts
00:10:54.660 because you can't
00:10:56.540 have a real trial
00:10:57.240 in 24 hours
00:10:57.960 so it would be
00:10:58.560 a command really,
00:10:59.840 a show trial at most.
00:11:01.160 That's the censorship way
00:11:02.300 and who do you think
00:11:03.540 they're coming for?
00:11:05.060 Well,
00:11:05.780 ask Catherine McKenna.
00:11:07.140 Hi Minister,
00:11:08.000 how are you
00:11:08.340 this morning?
00:11:09.060 I'm great.
00:11:09.980 Could you tell me
00:11:10.440 what you meant
00:11:10.940 when you said
00:11:11.700 yesterday that
00:11:12.260 your government
00:11:12.720 might regulate
00:11:13.420 everything?
00:11:14.980 I certainly
00:11:15.620 never said that.
00:11:16.760 You actually
00:11:17.620 said it as a threat.
00:11:18.440 Unfortunately,
00:11:19.000 Rebel News
00:11:19.440 always distorts
00:11:20.340 what I say.
00:11:21.280 It was quite clear.
00:11:22.360 You said it in a tweet
00:11:23.160 as a threat
00:11:23.840 to companies,
00:11:24.480 digital companies
00:11:25.040 that don't regulate
00:11:25.680 themselves.
00:11:26.220 You said the government
00:11:27.180 could regulate
00:11:27.900 everything.
00:11:28.200 I want to say to you
00:11:28.700 that you guys
00:11:29.820 are contributing
00:11:30.880 to hate against me
00:11:32.200 because you spread
00:11:33.420 misinformation
00:11:33.940 and disinformation.
00:11:35.040 I will continue
00:11:35.780 to call out
00:11:36.500 your misinformation
00:11:37.160 and disinformation
00:11:38.020 every single day.
00:11:39.740 What was the misinformation?
00:11:40.920 Please tell me.
00:11:41.440 I'd be interested to hear.
00:11:42.720 The misinformation
00:11:43.300 and disinformation
00:11:44.080 is what you just said
00:11:45.220 right now.
00:11:46.060 You threatened yesterday
00:11:46.980 to regulate.
00:11:48.380 You said on Twitter.
00:11:50.080 You know what I don't like
00:11:51.200 is that you're contributing
00:11:53.480 to all the hate
00:11:54.800 I'm receiving.
00:11:56.000 I did an online,
00:11:57.200 I did an event
00:12:00.300 with women politicians.
00:12:01.580 The amount of hate
00:12:03.880 that women politicians
00:12:04.760 is getting
00:12:05.400 from outlets like you
00:12:06.580 is completely unacceptable.
00:12:08.260 About half of our
00:12:09.020 journalists are women.
00:12:10.200 Why are you targeting
00:12:11.020 us specifically over that?
00:12:12.400 It's your comments
00:12:13.100 that we're asking you about.
00:12:15.620 The funny thing is
00:12:16.780 that McKenna and Gilbo
00:12:17.760 are the rudest,
00:12:19.300 most obnoxious
00:12:20.160 bigots around.
00:12:21.660 They sure can dish it out.
00:12:23.800 They just can't take it.
00:12:25.140 I mean, Gilbo himself,
00:12:26.440 he's actually a convicted criminal.
00:12:29.180 I don't know how he managed
00:12:30.120 to get into cabinet
00:12:30.960 and did the RCMP
00:12:32.060 not object to a convicted
00:12:33.440 criminal in cabinet?
00:12:34.680 And McKenna,
00:12:35.480 she smears anyone
00:12:36.500 who disagrees with her
00:12:37.480 as a denier.
00:12:38.760 She uses language
00:12:39.960 that tracks Holocaust denial.
00:12:42.400 She tries to say
00:12:43.240 you're a Nazi
00:12:44.300 if you don't agree with her.
00:12:45.280 I mean, listen to her contempt
00:12:46.860 for the public here.
00:12:48.320 You know, I actually
00:12:49.220 gave them some real advice.
00:12:50.980 I said that if you
00:12:51.860 actually say it louder,
00:12:53.100 we've learned
00:12:53.520 in the House of Commons,
00:12:54.380 if you repeat it,
00:12:55.260 if you say it louder,
00:12:56.140 if that is your talking point,
00:12:57.660 people will totally believe it.
00:12:59.280 So just go in.
00:13:00.000 Yeah, kids,
00:13:00.660 don't drink and tweet, okay?
00:13:03.000 But for Gilbo to complain
00:13:04.300 about rudeness
00:13:04.940 is just next-level gaslighting.
00:13:07.040 I really don't know
00:13:07.880 any MP from any party
00:13:09.260 who is more abusive
00:13:10.860 to citizens online.
00:13:12.260 Here's just a little sample,
00:13:14.600 just a couple.
00:13:15.100 Why am I not surprised?
00:13:16.820 Ezra Levan's rebel media
00:13:18.260 boosts propaganda
00:13:19.640 from neo-Nazi group.
00:13:21.640 No, you wicked liar.
00:13:23.440 Please don't call me
00:13:24.280 a Nazi booster.
00:13:25.320 I'm actually a Jew.
00:13:27.140 Here's another one.
00:13:27.920 Rebel media's climate
00:13:30.000 denial expert
00:13:30.800 was too dumb
00:13:31.640 to be sued for defamation,
00:13:33.460 B.C. court rules.
00:13:36.280 Oh, that's not true,
00:13:37.960 of course,
00:13:38.380 but we're not talking
00:13:39.380 about truth.
00:13:39.840 We're just talking
00:13:40.360 about mean tweets, right?
00:13:41.960 I mean, Gilbo wants
00:13:42.700 to ban mean tweets, right?
00:13:44.700 For other people,
00:13:45.980 but not for himself.
00:13:47.180 Look, this isn't really
00:13:48.440 about hurt feelings.
00:13:50.460 Gilbo calls Jews Nazis.
00:13:52.960 Gilbo himself
00:13:53.660 as an unrepentant,
00:13:55.560 convicted criminal.
00:13:57.940 Gilbo doesn't believe
00:13:58.760 in the same moral code
00:13:59.760 that you and I do.
00:14:00.860 He believes in raw power.
00:14:02.880 He believes in breaking the law
00:14:04.340 when it suits him.
00:14:06.060 And now he's a lawmaker?
00:14:08.000 He's the most obnoxious,
00:14:09.600 defamatory smearer
00:14:10.640 in all of Parliament,
00:14:11.620 but now he'll pretend
00:14:12.680 he's about good taste
00:14:14.100 and hurt feelings
00:14:15.240 while he bans
00:14:16.440 the last 1%
00:14:17.720 of the media in Canada
00:14:18.800 that didn't take his bribe.
00:14:20.980 I guess my point is, folks,
00:14:24.060 don't say they didn't warn you,
00:14:26.900 but come back next week
00:14:28.840 because if we're still
00:14:30.280 on the internet,
00:14:31.540 I'll have some very interesting
00:14:33.160 news for you on this subject.
00:14:35.280 Stay with us for more.
00:14:47.940 I'm very excited
00:14:49.300 about our next guest.
00:14:51.020 Lindsay Shepard
00:14:51.980 skyrocketed
00:14:53.520 to international acclaim
00:14:55.800 in 2017
00:14:57.500 when she was a 22-year-old
00:14:59.180 graduate student
00:15:00.340 at Wilfrid Laurier University.
00:15:03.540 She did not have
00:15:04.900 a public profile,
00:15:06.320 but she was targeted
00:15:08.360 by a diversity
00:15:10.200 and inclusion woke mob
00:15:13.320 because she dared to show
00:15:15.440 a short clip
00:15:17.040 of Jordan Peterson
00:15:18.480 to her graduate students
00:15:20.140 just to ask them
00:15:21.040 what they thought.
00:15:22.580 She was then harassed
00:15:24.400 by the anti-harassers.
00:15:27.000 There was an investigation
00:15:28.080 of her,
00:15:29.380 but she made
00:15:30.180 a very strategic decision
00:15:31.940 to record
00:15:33.020 her own interrogation
00:15:35.440 because, as we know,
00:15:37.460 if she hadn't recorded it,
00:15:38.780 no one would believe
00:15:39.720 what they did to her.
00:15:40.760 She turned the tables
00:15:42.640 on her inquisitors
00:15:43.940 and fought back.
00:15:45.000 Her name is Lindsay Shepard.
00:15:47.080 The book is called
00:15:47.740 Diversity and Exclusion,
00:15:49.060 and we're delighted
00:15:49.580 to interview her now.
00:15:51.380 Lindsay, great to see you again.
00:15:52.640 Congratulations on the new book.
00:15:55.060 Thank you.
00:15:55.840 Thanks for having me.
00:15:56.680 Well, it's our pleasure.
00:15:57.860 I'm so glad
00:15:58.600 you wrote this book.
00:15:59.720 I didn't know
00:16:00.580 if you were able
00:16:01.580 to tell the full story
00:16:03.220 because I'm aware,
00:16:04.920 and I'm delighted about this,
00:16:06.220 that you are actually
00:16:07.260 suing
00:16:08.260 Wilfrid Laurier
00:16:09.900 for blacklisting you,
00:16:11.720 for deplatforming you,
00:16:12.720 for smearing you
00:16:13.820 in a trumped up
00:16:14.980 sham investigation.
00:16:15.680 So is that lawsuit
00:16:16.680 still going on?
00:16:18.840 Yeah, so that lawsuit
00:16:19.800 was launched in 2018,
00:16:21.040 and there's also
00:16:23.760 a lawsuit in conjunction
00:16:25.240 with Jordan Peterson.
00:16:26.480 So he is suing
00:16:27.340 for defamation
00:16:28.760 because the professors
00:16:30.300 that you were referring to
00:16:31.660 that were in the disciplinary
00:16:33.460 meeting with me
00:16:34.600 telling me I created
00:16:35.860 a toxic environment
00:16:36.860 and all that,
00:16:37.840 they said Peterson
00:16:38.820 was a charlatan
00:16:40.060 and they compared him
00:16:41.200 to Hitler.
00:16:42.080 So he's suing
00:16:42.780 for defamation
00:16:43.560 concurrently,
00:16:45.840 and so the lawsuit
00:16:47.060 can't progress
00:16:47.880 until Jordan Peterson
00:16:49.400 is feeling a bit better.
00:16:51.040 Your viewers may know
00:16:51.860 he hasn't been
00:16:52.660 of the greatest health
00:16:53.620 lately.
00:16:54.520 So because these lawsuits
00:16:55.520 are all kind of
00:16:56.340 combined,
00:16:58.640 we're waiting
00:16:59.620 for that point.
00:17:00.800 Because I should add,
00:17:01.900 the university,
00:17:03.480 they're saying that
00:17:04.920 if Jordan Peterson
00:17:05.880 was indeed defamed,
00:17:07.640 it would be my fault
00:17:08.700 because I made a recording
00:17:11.160 of the defamation.
00:17:12.520 So there's a third-party
00:17:13.420 claim against me,
00:17:14.560 if that'll make sense.
00:17:16.040 I do understand it.
00:17:18.520 I'm delighted,
00:17:19.420 and you've got
00:17:19.780 a very serious lawyer,
00:17:20.780 if I'm not mistaken.
00:17:21.560 Is Howard Levitt
00:17:22.460 still your lawyer?
00:17:24.100 Yeah, he's great.
00:17:24.980 He's one of the top
00:17:25.860 legal minds in Canada,
00:17:27.200 so this is not
00:17:27.880 a rinky-dink lawsuit.
00:17:28.840 If I were Wilfrid Laurier
00:17:29.740 and if I saw an incoming
00:17:31.240 lawsuit from Howard Levitt,
00:17:32.560 I would be very worried.
00:17:35.020 And I think one of the reasons
00:17:36.900 they should be worried,
00:17:37.620 and I don't want to talk
00:17:38.520 about the lawsuit so much,
00:17:39.440 but it is,
00:17:40.460 it really covers
00:17:42.340 what your book is about.
00:17:44.320 You were put through
00:17:45.560 a sham process,
00:17:47.860 a fake trial,
00:17:48.640 a show trial,
00:17:49.780 like a struggle session
00:17:51.180 that they would have
00:17:51.900 in Maoist China.
00:17:53.360 For example,
00:17:54.760 you were told
00:17:55.500 that there were
00:17:56.100 one or more people
00:17:57.760 who had complained
00:17:58.980 about you,
00:18:00.140 and there was
00:18:01.200 all these complaints
00:18:02.400 that were allegedly said,
00:18:04.360 but it turned out
00:18:05.240 it was all made up.
00:18:06.740 It was just basically
00:18:07.680 a chance to bait you
00:18:10.000 and set you up.
00:18:11.360 It would be what
00:18:11.820 the Brits call
00:18:12.420 a stitch-up,
00:18:13.380 am I right?
00:18:15.180 Yeah, exactly.
00:18:16.240 And it's all documented
00:18:18.460 in this book,
00:18:19.640 so it was truly a pleasure
00:18:21.720 to get all that out there.
00:18:23.400 I bet.
00:18:24.020 Now, the book
00:18:24.540 has been out
00:18:25.120 for only about a week or so,
00:18:26.520 and I see it's getting
00:18:27.600 great ratings on Amazon,
00:18:29.740 which is excellent,
00:18:30.620 and I really look forward
00:18:32.700 to digging into it myself.
00:18:34.100 I feel like our side,
00:18:37.480 and I don't know
00:18:37.940 if you regard yourself
00:18:38.820 on my side,
00:18:39.760 but I regard myself
00:18:40.640 on your side,
00:18:42.040 because I think
00:18:42.700 you were victimized
00:18:43.720 and demonized,
00:18:45.580 and they shut down
00:18:48.800 your ability to debate,
00:18:50.500 and then they had
00:18:51.240 a fake process,
00:18:52.560 and then they smeared you,
00:18:54.040 but the difference is
00:18:55.240 you fought back,
00:18:55.900 and you made that
00:18:56.380 one very smart decision.
00:18:58.740 So I love the fact
00:18:59.820 that you're fighting back.
00:19:00.840 Is the book
00:19:01.560 part of your fight back,
00:19:02.940 or is it just to tell people
00:19:04.840 this is what's going on
00:19:05.960 on campus?
00:19:06.420 This is where you're
00:19:07.040 sending your kids
00:19:07.680 and grandkids.
00:19:08.840 This is what you're spending
00:19:09.860 10, 20, 30 grand a year
00:19:11.300 in university tuition for.
00:19:13.820 This is what it's like
00:19:15.080 these days.
00:19:17.200 Yeah, exactly.
00:19:17.920 So it's mostly a memoir,
00:19:19.720 but it's also,
00:19:20.760 it has elements
00:19:21.460 of a nonfiction book
00:19:22.680 that is explaining
00:19:23.760 what's going on
00:19:24.740 on campuses right now.
00:19:26.000 But one of my main
00:19:27.840 motivations was
00:19:28.940 just to document
00:19:29.980 everything that happened
00:19:31.340 in that case
00:19:32.640 from 2017 to 2018.
00:19:35.020 I just saw a shortage
00:19:36.380 of books that really
00:19:37.720 serve as case studies
00:19:39.380 of campus free speech issues.
00:19:41.880 And so I thought
00:19:42.640 this is a good chance
00:19:44.100 to tell a full story,
00:19:45.840 especially because
00:19:46.600 a lot of your viewers
00:19:47.560 may have followed,
00:19:48.820 you know,
00:19:49.280 the Laurier controversy
00:19:50.080 when it was in the news
00:19:51.360 in 2017.
00:19:52.840 But, you know,
00:19:53.740 there was,
00:19:54.240 even though at the end
00:19:55.460 the university apologized
00:19:56.620 and all of that,
00:19:58.180 there was still
00:19:59.380 almost another full year
00:20:00.900 of when I was still
00:20:02.100 at school
00:20:02.620 at Wilfrid Laurier University.
00:20:04.280 And there was so much
00:20:05.380 happening behind the scenes
00:20:06.740 that wasn't necessarily
00:20:08.900 newsworthy,
00:20:10.060 but it's still
00:20:10.700 really interesting.
00:20:12.400 And it shows
00:20:13.540 that gradual process
00:20:14.820 of being alienated
00:20:16.740 once you show
00:20:17.640 to have,
00:20:18.300 you know,
00:20:18.900 a different unpopular
00:20:19.800 viewpoint on something.
00:20:21.720 And so that story
00:20:23.140 is now out there.
00:20:23.980 You know,
00:20:25.120 am I correct to say
00:20:27.520 that before this
00:20:28.180 whole thing started,
00:20:28.920 you weren't particularly
00:20:30.040 a troublemaker?
00:20:32.140 You weren't
00:20:32.780 a public advocate.
00:20:34.140 You weren't
00:20:34.880 famous for
00:20:36.060 campaigning
00:20:37.220 or championing
00:20:39.140 things.
00:20:39.560 You were
00:20:40.480 a grad student
00:20:41.560 who was
00:20:42.260 in an interesting
00:20:43.440 debate
00:20:44.080 that this sort of
00:20:45.580 forced you
00:20:46.760 into the public eye.
00:20:47.620 Is that true
00:20:48.320 that this turned you
00:20:49.680 into an activist
00:20:50.400 or were you one
00:20:51.140 to begin with?
00:20:51.880 No,
00:20:53.760 as I write
00:20:54.540 on the blurb
00:20:55.560 of the book,
00:20:56.080 I went from going
00:20:56.880 from a nobody
00:20:58.080 to going viral.
00:20:59.280 So I had no
00:20:59.960 social media accounts.
00:21:01.540 I was not active
00:21:02.300 in that kind of sphere
00:21:03.380 at all.
00:21:04.420 And this book
00:21:06.660 tells the story
00:21:07.860 of being thrust
00:21:08.540 into those issues
00:21:09.600 and learning
00:21:10.700 about free speech
00:21:11.800 and political correctness,
00:21:13.860 those kinds of issues
00:21:14.560 really quickly
00:21:15.200 and immersing myself
00:21:16.800 in them
00:21:17.300 because I just
00:21:18.580 kind of found myself
00:21:19.560 in the middle
00:21:20.260 of something.
00:21:21.900 And at a time
00:21:23.320 when it was also
00:21:25.140 very culturally relevant,
00:21:28.040 which it kind of,
00:21:28.940 it still is.
00:21:29.840 I mean,
00:21:30.020 the pandemic
00:21:30.440 has taken over
00:21:31.160 the cultural relevancy,
00:21:32.440 but yeah,
00:21:33.860 it was just kind
00:21:34.460 of the right moment
00:21:35.240 where people
00:21:35.660 were paying attention
00:21:36.380 to things like
00:21:37.160 gender pronouns
00:21:38.180 and all that.
00:21:39.280 And I fell into it.
00:21:40.620 You know,
00:21:41.700 I think a lot of people
00:21:45.140 are liberal
00:21:47.660 or moderate
00:21:49.480 and then they get hit
00:21:51.400 by this woke mob
00:21:53.160 and they are either
00:21:53.980 crumbled
00:21:54.780 or they suddenly
00:21:56.540 rediscover
00:21:58.040 the importance
00:21:58.800 of free speech
00:21:59.440 and they look around
00:22:00.100 and they see
00:22:00.520 that the woke mob
00:22:01.200 is on the left.
00:22:02.560 You tell me
00:22:03.080 if I'm right or wrong here.
00:22:04.260 I'm trying to think back
00:22:05.400 to 2017, 2018
00:22:07.200 because we did cover
00:22:08.460 these stories
00:22:09.300 a little bit.
00:22:09.740 I remember we sent
00:22:10.600 a reporter
00:22:11.220 out to Wilfrid Laurier
00:22:14.420 and if I recall,
00:22:15.680 I think you were
00:22:16.120 a little hesitant
00:22:17.340 even to talk
00:22:18.080 to Rebel News
00:22:18.660 because if I'm not mistaken,
00:22:20.880 you probably
00:22:22.280 would have described
00:22:23.120 yourself as a liberal
00:22:25.040 or at least regular
00:22:26.260 and back then,
00:22:29.120 I think maybe
00:22:30.540 you hadn't fully realized
00:22:32.100 that the censors,
00:22:34.280 the limiters
00:22:34.980 of free speech
00:22:35.720 were increasingly
00:22:36.920 from the left
00:22:38.200 and that it was
00:22:39.260 conservatives
00:22:40.000 that were
00:22:40.600 on the free speech
00:22:41.520 side.
00:22:42.260 I mean,
00:22:42.620 I don't want
00:22:43.120 to mischaracterize you
00:22:45.160 but that's how
00:22:45.760 I sort of remember
00:22:46.760 your transformation.
00:22:48.340 You were
00:22:48.820 a little nervous
00:22:50.000 when we even said
00:22:50.900 what's your story
00:22:51.700 because
00:22:52.480 maybe you thought
00:22:54.860 that the war
00:22:57.040 against free speech
00:22:58.900 was even on the right
00:22:59.860 as opposed to,
00:23:00.420 I mean,
00:23:00.720 I'm not saying
00:23:01.140 there were no
00:23:01.620 right-wingers
00:23:02.320 who were against
00:23:02.720 free speech
00:23:03.240 but I seem
00:23:04.500 to recall
00:23:04.800 you being
00:23:05.000 a little bit
00:23:05.340 liberal.
00:23:07.800 Yeah,
00:23:08.080 I think,
00:23:08.860 I mean,
00:23:09.080 I was a pretty,
00:23:09.900 a person
00:23:11.060 who kept to myself
00:23:11.880 and I think
00:23:12.720 if you don't
00:23:13.760 vocalize
00:23:14.540 any kind
00:23:15.060 of non-unorthodox
00:23:16.760 opinions
00:23:17.140 that you have
00:23:17.940 or you don't
00:23:18.820 have any brush-ups
00:23:19.680 with political
00:23:20.440 correctness,
00:23:21.420 you can kind
00:23:21.960 of just go on
00:23:22.620 thinking there's
00:23:23.500 no problem
00:23:24.140 but I did
00:23:25.720 brush up against
00:23:26.600 it and I very
00:23:27.340 quickly learned
00:23:28.160 that there was
00:23:28.940 a problem.
00:23:30.500 Otherwise,
00:23:31.000 I think,
00:23:31.340 yeah,
00:23:31.500 people just
00:23:32.000 go on thinking
00:23:32.940 there's nothing
00:23:33.620 wrong because
00:23:34.860 they don't ever
00:23:35.560 vocalize
00:23:36.240 an unorthodox
00:23:36.980 opinion.
00:23:38.040 So you're right,
00:23:38.900 I remember
00:23:39.620 being hesitant
00:23:40.900 to speak to,
00:23:41.660 I think it was
00:23:42.040 David Menzies
00:23:42.740 at the free speech
00:23:43.760 rally at Wilfrid Laurier
00:23:44.720 just because
00:23:45.680 at the time
00:23:46.320 I was being
00:23:46.820 bombarded
00:23:47.520 with accusations
00:23:48.320 of,
00:23:49.400 you know,
00:23:49.740 I'm alt-right
00:23:50.640 and all these things
00:23:51.440 and people,
00:23:52.280 I remember a professor
00:23:53.320 at Laurier
00:23:54.080 was writing
00:23:55.180 how I'm going
00:23:56.540 to end up
00:23:57.020 working at
00:23:57.560 Rebel News
00:23:58.120 and they're
00:23:58.720 the only ones
00:23:59.300 who are going
00:23:59.600 to hire me.
00:24:00.720 I mean,
00:24:01.220 this is the things
00:24:01.860 that they say,
00:24:02.580 right?
00:24:03.260 Well,
00:24:03.460 you know,
00:24:03.920 it's funny
00:24:04.260 because,
00:24:04.600 I mean,
00:24:04.740 I'm joking around
00:24:05.320 and this is not
00:24:06.180 about us,
00:24:06.720 it's just me
00:24:07.640 remembering that
00:24:08.620 you were blindsided
00:24:10.400 by this.
00:24:10.840 I think you were
00:24:11.560 a regular person
00:24:12.880 who was blindsided
00:24:13.780 by this
00:24:14.280 and,
00:24:15.480 yeah,
00:24:15.760 I mean,
00:24:16.280 my question is
00:24:16.820 really not about us,
00:24:17.600 it's about how
00:24:18.400 someone who's thrust
00:24:19.920 into these cancel
00:24:20.740 culture wars
00:24:21.480 realizes that maybe
00:24:22.620 the threat
00:24:23.140 is surprisingly to them
00:24:24.900 from the left
00:24:25.400 but let me ask you this,
00:24:26.380 you talk about
00:24:26.960 reputation
00:24:27.600 and they said
00:24:28.140 only right-wing
00:24:29.280 will have you.
00:24:32.560 You were smeared
00:24:34.500 and a student
00:24:35.820 who's in grad school,
00:24:37.200 I didn't go to grad school
00:24:38.340 myself,
00:24:39.360 I imagine that
00:24:40.340 unless you're just
00:24:41.120 really passionately
00:24:42.120 interested in the subject
00:24:43.280 and really,
00:24:43.820 really,
00:24:44.080 really want to learn
00:24:44.680 more about it,
00:24:45.620 there is sort of a hope
00:24:46.740 that you would get a job
00:24:48.140 in academia.
00:24:48.920 I think that's what
00:24:49.740 graduate school
00:24:50.960 is about,
00:24:51.520 right?
00:24:51.740 So if you are blackened,
00:24:54.660 blacklisted,
00:24:55.560 blackballed
00:24:56.400 by academic bosses,
00:25:00.000 by deans and professors
00:25:01.440 as being a troublemaker
00:25:03.280 at best
00:25:04.200 and like a transphobe
00:25:06.640 or whatever at worst,
00:25:08.120 you're not going to get offers
00:25:09.820 to be an assistant professor
00:25:11.480 somewhere
00:25:12.000 or whatever
00:25:13.560 the next ladder
00:25:15.280 on the academic,
00:25:16.660 next rung
00:25:17.380 on the academic ladder is,
00:25:18.580 right?
00:25:18.720 So they really killed
00:25:20.100 any academic career
00:25:21.120 you could have.
00:25:23.360 Yeah,
00:25:23.900 yeah,
00:25:24.120 you're right
00:25:24.540 and the world
00:25:25.200 of Canadian academia,
00:25:26.880 the arts,
00:25:27.800 it's really quite small
00:25:28.920 and even if you do have
00:25:30.980 some professors
00:25:31.880 advocating for you,
00:25:33.040 which I did,
00:25:34.080 there were some,
00:25:35.160 you know,
00:25:35.480 pro-free speech professors
00:25:36.700 across the country
00:25:37.640 who are openly
00:25:38.400 supporting me,
00:25:40.360 still,
00:25:40.920 to get hired
00:25:41.700 in academia today,
00:25:43.380 you have to sit
00:25:44.060 through these,
00:25:44.880 you know,
00:25:45.160 you have like a panel
00:25:46.060 of people interviewing you
00:25:47.260 and their main concern
00:25:49.220 right now
00:25:49.600 is do you abide
00:25:51.820 by the tenets
00:25:52.520 of diversity
00:25:53.160 and inclusion
00:25:53.760 and what I did,
00:25:56.160 which is say
00:25:57.960 that Jordan Peterson's
00:25:59.800 view on compelled speech
00:26:01.060 and pronouns
00:26:01.540 was a valid viewpoint,
00:26:03.500 I'm seen as antithetical
00:26:05.360 to their mandate
00:26:06.580 of diversity
00:26:07.180 and inclusion.
00:26:08.360 So that's kind of,
00:26:09.840 that's why I'm a fan
00:26:11.440 of the title of my book,
00:26:12.640 Diversity and Exclusion.
00:26:14.280 Yeah,
00:26:14.680 well,
00:26:15.080 every kind of diversity
00:26:16.040 is allowed
00:26:16.540 except for diversity
00:26:17.320 of thought,
00:26:18.120 everyone's included
00:26:19.120 except for those
00:26:20.000 they cancel
00:26:20.860 and they exclude.
00:26:21.700 I think it's a great title also.
00:26:23.260 You know,
00:26:23.460 you made me think of
00:26:24.400 Peter Thiel,
00:26:26.640 the great tech entrepreneur,
00:26:29.220 libertarian thinker.
00:26:31.600 He is famous
00:26:33.820 for a job interview question
00:26:36.020 that he would put to people
00:26:37.600 and I don't know
00:26:38.000 if you've ever heard it
00:26:38.900 but I've got it
00:26:40.260 on my screen here.
00:26:40.940 it's what important truth
00:26:43.700 do very few people
00:26:46.020 agree with you on?
00:26:49.100 Or another way of saying that
00:26:50.640 is what is a heretical view
00:26:52.060 that you have?
00:26:53.520 And he liked to ask that
00:26:55.720 not so much because he
00:26:56.980 wanted to know
00:26:58.600 the particular answer
00:26:59.720 but he wanted to know
00:27:01.120 if you could
00:27:01.880 answer that question
00:27:03.800 if there's anything
00:27:05.040 in your life
00:27:05.680 you've ever done
00:27:06.500 to be a dissenter
00:27:08.200 a disruptor
00:27:09.700 because most people
00:27:11.260 would say
00:27:11.800 I have never
00:27:12.760 been a heretic
00:27:14.320 I've never dissented
00:27:15.720 I've never made
00:27:17.140 a ripple
00:27:17.660 or a wave
00:27:19.100 please don't
00:27:20.500 call me an outsider.
00:27:22.220 That's what I love
00:27:23.080 about the question.
00:27:24.140 I don't even think
00:27:24.700 he really cared
00:27:25.200 what the answer was
00:27:25.880 he just wanted to know
00:27:26.780 do you have the courage
00:27:28.000 to swim against the current?
00:27:30.300 What do you think of that?
00:27:32.260 Yeah, that's awesome
00:27:33.340 and I really learned
00:27:35.340 throughout the controversy
00:27:36.240 that I like being around
00:27:38.560 people who have
00:27:39.460 you know
00:27:40.020 been through
00:27:40.660 controversies themselves
00:27:41.960 who have had
00:27:43.520 false accusations
00:27:44.440 or anonymous complaints
00:27:46.440 put against them
00:27:47.180 because you do
00:27:48.580 gain a certain
00:27:49.580 understanding of the world
00:27:51.280 once you've been
00:27:52.340 put through that
00:27:53.140 whereas I think
00:27:54.420 people who haven't
00:27:55.540 rubbed up against it
00:27:56.540 they just
00:27:57.000 they don't have
00:27:58.100 that insight.
00:27:59.500 We're talking
00:28:00.420 with Lindsay Shepard
00:28:01.620 of course
00:28:02.120 the hero
00:28:02.720 of Wilfrid Laurier University
00:28:04.340 who stood up
00:28:04.920 to the woke mob
00:28:05.700 very strategically
00:28:06.920 recorded
00:28:07.600 their sham investigation
00:28:08.600 of her
00:28:09.040 her new book
00:28:09.560 is called
00:28:09.980 Diversity and Exclusion
00:28:12.460 Confronting the Campus
00:28:13.660 Free Speech Crisis
00:28:15.100 we'll have a link
00:28:15.880 to it under this video
00:28:17.100 well let me put
00:28:18.300 the teal question
00:28:19.020 to you
00:28:19.580 and maybe I know
00:28:20.800 the answer
00:28:21.380 what important truth
00:28:23.120 do very few people
00:28:24.220 agree with
00:28:24.800 you on?
00:28:25.760 well so there's one part
00:28:31.400 in my book
00:28:31.980 where I talk about
00:28:33.860 who I was
00:28:34.900 before the Laurier
00:28:35.660 controversy
00:28:36.160 and I say that
00:28:37.720 let's say I had
00:28:38.580 been approached
00:28:39.860 on the street
00:28:40.700 and I'm kind of
00:28:42.020 like what the rebel
00:28:42.680 does sometimes
00:28:43.240 like streeters
00:28:43.920 approaching random
00:28:44.980 people
00:28:45.340 and if you would
00:28:46.580 ask me
00:28:47.160 are trans women
00:28:48.220 women
00:28:48.640 I probably just
00:28:49.980 would have said
00:28:50.540 yeah sure
00:28:51.640 whatever
00:28:52.760 and now
00:28:55.680 after having
00:28:56.860 learned about
00:28:57.440 those issues
00:28:58.180 I would say
00:28:59.760 no
00:29:00.860 that's not
00:29:02.000 correct
00:29:02.640 trans women
00:29:03.760 are trans women
00:29:04.600 and I'm not sure
00:29:07.060 how many
00:29:08.320 if that's an
00:29:09.160 unpopular opinion
00:29:09.940 or a popular opinion
00:29:11.300 but I think
00:29:12.740 a lot of people
00:29:13.680 are just too scared
00:29:14.660 of being perceived
00:29:16.860 as mean
00:29:17.460 that's probably
00:29:18.100 where my previous
00:29:19.180 view is coming from
00:29:20.320 yeah you didn't
00:29:21.920 want to be mean
00:29:22.620 yep
00:29:24.500 and that's a nice
00:29:25.540 place to come from
00:29:26.440 to be nice to
00:29:27.120 everybody
00:29:27.680 not to be mean
00:29:29.160 to everybody
00:29:29.800 but often
00:29:31.300 you know
00:29:32.100 that may be
00:29:32.820 the intention
00:29:33.380 but the outcome
00:29:34.020 in the case
00:29:34.660 of trans women
00:29:35.360 for example
00:29:35.920 okay
00:29:36.560 have you just
00:29:37.380 destroyed
00:29:38.320 all girls
00:29:39.640 sports
00:29:40.280 for example
00:29:41.460 because now
00:29:42.200 trans women
00:29:42.900 can compete
00:29:43.340 with women
00:29:43.740 I think
00:29:45.100 that's a
00:29:46.160 very interesting
00:29:47.200 answer to the
00:29:47.840 Peter Thiel question
00:29:48.860 because
00:29:49.580 I don't know
00:29:51.120 I think most
00:29:51.960 people would say
00:29:53.000 trans women
00:29:54.200 are real women
00:29:55.020 just to avoid
00:29:56.400 being mobbed
00:29:57.660 but secretly
00:29:58.840 in their heart
00:29:59.520 they would say
00:30:00.200 the opposite
00:30:01.800 I mean
00:30:02.180 they would hold
00:30:02.940 two different views
00:30:04.560 one for public
00:30:05.280 consumption
00:30:05.780 one for private
00:30:06.580 consumption
00:30:07.020 like in the former
00:30:07.920 Soviet Union
00:30:08.640 you knew what to say
00:30:09.760 to people you didn't
00:30:11.420 know and trust
00:30:12.160 and then you knew
00:30:12.620 what you could say
00:30:13.540 at home
00:30:14.740 within the privacy
00:30:15.980 of your own house
00:30:16.620 let me ask you this
00:30:17.620 your story
00:30:19.520 I mean
00:30:19.860 it was well covered
00:30:21.000 in the National Post
00:30:21.980 and we did our best
00:30:23.140 to cover it too
00:30:23.920 and you were a great
00:30:25.060 spokesperson
00:30:25.520 yourself
00:30:26.260 I'm glad
00:30:27.920 you've lawyered up
00:30:28.640 and I understand
00:30:29.260 why the lawsuit
00:30:29.860 sort of paused
00:30:30.580 this book
00:30:31.640 is an excellent
00:30:32.420 expression
00:30:34.460 of all these things
00:30:35.660 but what is your
00:30:37.420 proposal
00:30:38.200 or plan
00:30:38.880 if you had
00:30:39.400 one piece of advice
00:30:40.500 for how to fix things
00:30:41.820 what would it be
00:30:43.160 yeah
00:30:45.300 in my book
00:30:46.320 I say
00:30:48.060 straight up
00:30:48.740 that we need
00:30:49.280 to close
00:30:49.860 all diversity
00:30:50.760 and inclusion
00:30:51.220 offices
00:30:51.700 at universities
00:30:52.600 and that's going
00:30:53.700 to be
00:30:53.980 what I see
00:30:54.540 as the most
00:30:55.020 important step
00:30:55.840 to making
00:30:57.460 universities
00:30:58.320 bastions of
00:30:59.260 free thought
00:30:59.760 again
00:31:00.180 because those
00:31:01.120 offices
00:31:01.580 while they sound
00:31:03.320 nice
00:31:03.940 you know
00:31:04.780 you want to
00:31:05.180 include everyone
00:31:05.980 inclusion
00:31:06.920 what they are
00:31:08.320 really in the
00:31:08.900 business of
00:31:09.820 is enforcing
00:31:10.900 ideological
00:31:11.900 conformity
00:31:12.700 and making sure
00:31:13.520 everyone on campus
00:31:14.400 has the correct
00:31:15.700 viewpoints on
00:31:16.420 everything
00:31:16.820 that's what
00:31:17.920 they're doing
00:31:18.360 and they get
00:31:18.860 six figure salaries
00:31:19.940 the heads of
00:31:20.500 these offices
00:31:21.120 and the students
00:31:22.640 pay for it
00:31:23.340 and it's just
00:31:24.420 so ridiculous
00:31:25.120 they need to
00:31:25.960 all be shut down
00:31:27.320 so that's
00:31:29.060 my suggestion
00:31:29.920 I think that's
00:31:32.460 spot on
00:31:33.440 how likely
00:31:34.320 is that to happen
00:31:35.160 is there any
00:31:36.040 school in the
00:31:36.920 country
00:31:37.400 that doesn't
00:31:39.440 have one of
00:31:40.100 these offices
00:31:40.820 I mean I'm sure
00:31:41.620 even community
00:31:43.040 colleges
00:31:43.620 where they
00:31:44.740 would teach
00:31:45.420 something more
00:31:46.020 you know
00:31:46.560 practical
00:31:47.060 to a different
00:31:48.040 type of student
00:31:49.080 like I
00:31:49.420 there's some
00:31:51.000 universities
00:31:51.480 that are so
00:31:52.160 abstract
00:31:52.920 in the
00:31:53.300 humanities
00:31:53.840 and you know
00:31:54.900 peace and gender
00:31:56.020 studies
00:31:56.580 vegetarian studies
00:31:57.840 whatever
00:31:58.220 but I bet even
00:31:59.620 in trade schools
00:32:00.540 where you're
00:32:00.920 learning how to
00:32:01.480 you know
00:32:02.100 get your
00:32:02.480 welding ticket
00:32:03.240 they probably
00:32:04.040 have these
00:32:04.540 offices
00:32:04.940 is there any
00:32:06.220 chance
00:32:06.900 of pulling out
00:32:08.060 this weed by
00:32:08.820 the root
00:32:09.320 in the liberal
00:32:10.620 arts universities
00:32:11.420 because to me
00:32:11.940 that sounds like
00:32:12.620 such a
00:32:13.300 impossible
00:32:14.880 prescription
00:32:16.160 I agree with
00:32:16.800 you we need
00:32:17.200 to do that
00:32:17.560 but really
00:32:18.220 is that even
00:32:19.280 possible
00:32:19.840 these days
00:32:20.460 I mean
00:32:22.460 these offices
00:32:23.740 are only
00:32:24.200 expanding
00:32:24.780 they're expanding
00:32:26.000 into the
00:32:27.140 private sector
00:32:27.780 too
00:32:28.160 I mean
00:32:28.920 not every
00:32:30.000 university
00:32:30.420 has a
00:32:30.940 diversity
00:32:31.320 office
00:32:31.880 it's only
00:32:33.160 if you
00:32:33.420 have enough
00:32:33.820 money
00:32:34.200 frankly
00:32:34.660 the smaller
00:32:35.200 universities
00:32:35.700 just kind
00:32:36.120 of have
00:32:36.280 a web
00:32:36.640 page
00:32:37.100 saying how
00:32:38.600 they abide
00:32:39.280 by the
00:32:39.560 tenets of
00:32:39.940 diversity
00:32:40.300 and inclusion
00:32:40.780 but you
00:32:42.120 know
00:32:42.240 once they
00:32:42.580 get enough
00:32:43.040 funding
00:32:43.820 they open
00:32:44.720 one
00:32:45.060 often
00:32:45.760 I think
00:32:46.580 it's only
00:32:46.860 the University
00:32:47.360 of Prince
00:32:47.780 Edward
00:32:47.960 Island
00:32:48.260 where
00:32:48.740 I think
00:32:49.620 they had
00:32:50.040 to shut
00:32:50.340 it down
00:32:50.660 for lack
00:32:51.140 of funding
00:32:51.500 like many
00:32:51.920 many years
00:32:52.400 ago
00:32:52.700 which is
00:32:53.340 kind of
00:32:53.600 interesting
00:32:53.900 but yeah
00:32:55.900 it's
00:32:56.240 I mean
00:32:56.600 it's
00:32:56.780 they're only
00:32:57.180 expanding
00:32:57.760 I think
00:32:58.900 people who
00:32:59.460 do
00:32:59.900 students
00:33:00.600 who do
00:33:01.080 arts
00:33:01.380 degrees
00:33:01.720 they see
00:33:03.040 or even
00:33:03.560 business
00:33:04.260 or STEM
00:33:06.020 because you
00:33:06.480 know there's
00:33:06.760 this whole
00:33:07.040 women in
00:33:07.520 STEM
00:33:07.860 BIPOC
00:33:09.820 STEM
00:33:16.860 that's
00:33:17.360 what does
00:33:18.240 that stand
00:33:18.620 for
00:33:18.820 black
00:33:19.140 indigenous
00:33:19.600 people
00:33:20.040 of color
00:33:20.380 it's
00:33:20.760 this whole
00:33:21.320 language
00:33:21.880 and vocabulary
00:33:22.720 that if
00:33:23.980 that I think
00:33:24.920 most I don't
00:33:25.600 think most
00:33:25.980 people know
00:33:26.360 what BIPOC
00:33:27.140 means on
00:33:28.360 on the street
00:33:29.120 but there's
00:33:29.480 this whole
00:33:30.100 language
00:33:31.540 and like
00:33:32.640 an insider
00:33:33.440 speak
00:33:34.180 and if you
00:33:34.580 don't
00:33:35.360 I mean I
00:33:35.720 often think
00:33:36.240 about this
00:33:36.680 it used
00:33:37.020 to be
00:33:37.300 the word
00:33:37.640 Indian
00:33:38.060 you know
00:33:38.800 the Indian
00:33:39.240 Act
00:33:39.720 and Indian
00:33:40.400 Reserve
00:33:40.740 these are
00:33:41.080 legal words
00:33:41.580 status
00:33:41.960 Indian
00:33:42.360 Indian
00:33:43.120 agent
00:33:43.520 but then
00:33:44.260 that was
00:33:44.700 racist
00:33:45.020 so it
00:33:45.360 became
00:33:45.800 aboriginal
00:33:46.980 then it
00:33:47.960 became
00:33:48.200 first nations
00:33:48.960 then it
00:33:49.280 became
00:33:49.520 indigenous
00:33:49.960 and if
00:33:50.340 you're
00:33:50.480 not
00:33:50.700 keeping
00:33:51.300 up
00:33:51.800 with the
00:33:52.420 latest
00:33:52.680 phrase
00:33:53.160 you are
00:33:53.600 obviously
00:33:54.600 racist
00:33:55.480 even if
00:33:56.360 you're
00:33:56.520 not
00:33:56.880 I think
00:33:57.760 they have
00:33:58.200 to continuously
00:33:58.920 ratchet
00:33:59.580 things forward
00:34:00.600 to show
00:34:01.720 that they
00:34:02.140 are one
00:34:02.560 step ahead
00:34:03.060 of you
00:34:03.680 so they
00:34:04.480 can sneer
00:34:05.040 at you
00:34:05.460 investigate
00:34:06.000 you
00:34:06.460 punish
00:34:06.820 you
00:34:07.200 I think
00:34:08.440 it's
00:34:08.680 mission
00:34:09.000 creep
00:34:09.440 and
00:34:10.560 you know
00:34:11.680 I think
00:34:11.920 the whole
00:34:12.280 trans
00:34:12.720 movement
00:34:13.120 is
00:34:13.460 mission
00:34:13.760 creep
00:34:14.020 I mean
00:34:14.260 you have
00:34:14.580 complete
00:34:15.040 equality
00:34:15.600 under the
00:34:16.500 law
00:34:16.840 for
00:34:17.600 gay
00:34:18.780 people
00:34:19.140 gay
00:34:19.360 marriage
00:34:19.780 gay
00:34:19.980 adoption
00:34:20.320 it's
00:34:20.580 all
00:34:20.940 every
00:34:21.820 single
00:34:22.240 box
00:34:22.680 in their
00:34:22.980 to-do
00:34:23.300 list
00:34:23.560 is
00:34:23.740 checked
00:34:24.200 so to
00:34:25.460 justify
00:34:25.900 the
00:34:26.180 perpetual
00:34:26.820 campaign
00:34:27.320 they move
00:34:27.640 to
00:34:27.780 trans
00:34:28.220 issues
00:34:28.500 that's
00:34:28.780 my
00:34:28.980 thinking
00:34:29.260 what do
00:34:29.540 you
00:34:29.660 think
00:34:29.960 yeah
00:34:31.500 well even
00:34:31.820 what you're
00:34:32.220 saying
00:34:32.480 about
00:34:32.780 the
00:34:33.120 evolution
00:34:33.540 of
00:34:33.880 the
00:34:34.680 word
00:34:34.940 that we
00:34:35.380 now
00:34:35.560 say
00:34:35.820 indigenous
00:34:36.200 if
00:34:37.220 you
00:34:37.400 write
00:34:37.640 it
00:34:37.760 down
00:34:37.960 you
00:34:38.120 have
00:34:38.240 to
00:34:38.360 capitalize
00:34:38.760 the
00:34:39.060 I
00:34:39.300 same
00:34:39.980 with
00:34:40.120 the
00:34:43.120 black
00:34:43.420 in order
00:34:44.480 to be
00:34:44.840 proper
00:34:45.220 and so
00:34:45.920 it's
00:34:46.440 like what
00:34:46.720 you're
00:34:46.880 saying
00:34:47.220 but
00:34:48.320 I see
00:34:49.300 it more
00:34:49.600 as you
00:34:50.020 have to
00:34:50.300 keep up
00:34:50.760 with these
00:34:51.200 these trends
00:34:51.920 and show
00:34:52.440 that you're
00:34:52.740 very in
00:34:53.180 the know
00:34:53.560 show that
00:34:54.040 you're paying
00:34:54.380 attention to
00:34:55.040 social justice
00:34:55.660 issues
00:34:56.100 and I
00:34:58.080 I think
00:34:58.940 social justice
00:34:59.940 is very
00:35:00.520 infectious
00:35:01.980 in a bad
00:35:02.560 way
00:35:02.780 but
00:35:04.880 and I mean
00:35:05.760 it's kind
00:35:06.060 of like a
00:35:06.360 cancer
00:35:06.660 but I
00:35:08.980 still am
00:35:09.400 kind of in
00:35:09.980 the know
00:35:10.260 about those
00:35:10.760 terms
00:35:11.220 yeah
00:35:13.240 but when
00:35:13.600 someone says
00:35:14.260 for example
00:35:14.760 like I had
00:35:15.260 a boss
00:35:15.620 once who
00:35:16.160 who called
00:35:17.100 someone an
00:35:17.780 oriental
00:35:18.740 gentleman
00:35:19.400 just in
00:35:20.100 reference to
00:35:20.640 an Asian
00:35:20.980 person
00:35:21.400 and yeah
00:35:22.400 if a
00:35:22.760 if a
00:35:23.040 woke
00:35:23.340 person
00:35:23.780 heard that
00:35:24.280 they think
00:35:24.640 oh that's
00:35:25.200 racist
00:35:25.700 language
00:35:26.280 but really
00:35:27.040 what it
00:35:27.380 is
00:35:27.600 it's
00:35:27.920 it's
00:35:28.360 someone
00:35:28.620 from a
00:35:29.100 different
00:35:29.300 generation
00:35:29.740 it's
00:35:29.920 someone
00:35:30.040 older
00:35:30.360 and that's
00:35:31.040 the language
00:35:31.440 they're
00:35:31.640 used to
00:35:32.000 and they're
00:35:32.200 not
00:35:32.380 keeping
00:35:32.600 up with
00:35:33.480 social
00:35:33.840 justice
00:35:34.260 language
00:35:34.760 that's
00:35:35.480 all it
00:35:35.720 is
00:35:36.080 yeah
00:35:37.220 and I
00:35:37.620 think
00:35:37.820 it's
00:35:38.540 constant
00:35:39.180 attempts
00:35:39.640 to show
00:35:40.120 you're
00:35:40.320 more
00:35:40.480 virtuous
00:35:40.900 than the
00:35:41.400 next
00:35:41.640 guy
00:35:41.880 it's
00:35:42.120 like
00:35:42.360 oh you're
00:35:43.160 only wearing
00:35:43.680 one mask
00:35:44.440 I'm wearing
00:35:45.040 two masks
00:35:45.820 what are you
00:35:46.220 some grandma
00:35:46.860 killer
00:35:47.240 oh you're
00:35:47.960 a two
00:35:48.240 masker
00:35:48.680 well me
00:35:49.660 and the
00:35:49.880 three mask
00:35:50.380 kids are
00:35:50.940 better than
00:35:51.260 you
00:35:51.380 I think
00:35:51.660 it's
00:35:51.900 this arms
00:35:52.820 race
00:35:53.180 of whoever
00:35:53.740 can be
00:35:54.700 one degree
00:35:55.340 more woke
00:35:55.960 than the
00:35:56.240 next guy
00:35:56.680 completely
00:35:57.780 disconnected
00:35:59.020 from reality
00:36:00.080 I mean I
00:36:00.440 know this
00:36:00.760 word
00:36:01.080 I don't
00:36:01.800 even know
00:36:01.980 how to
00:36:02.200 say it
00:36:02.540 Latinx
00:36:03.740 some people
00:36:05.520 say Latinx
00:36:06.380 I think
00:36:06.660 it's Latinx
00:36:07.640 it's a way
00:36:08.540 of saying
00:36:08.880 Latino
00:36:09.420 and Latina
00:36:10.260 and I've
00:36:11.800 seen polls
00:36:12.340 showing that
00:36:12.840 like 90%
00:36:14.060 of Latinos
00:36:16.240 hate that
00:36:17.760 phrase
00:36:18.140 it's basically
00:36:18.800 used by
00:36:19.320 white
00:36:19.820 liberal
00:36:20.540 academics
00:36:21.200 to create
00:36:21.920 some new
00:36:22.480 class of
00:36:23.140 diversity
00:36:23.760 it's just
00:36:24.900 an industry
00:36:26.000 unto itself
00:36:26.820 it reminds me
00:36:27.640 of the old
00:36:27.880 human rights
00:36:28.380 commissions
00:36:28.800 that I used
00:36:29.260 to fight
00:36:29.640 with
00:36:29.920 their mandate
00:36:31.560 is to
00:36:32.100 find
00:36:32.780 hate
00:36:34.060 so even
00:36:35.300 if they're
00:36:35.660 in a peaceful
00:36:36.740 happy
00:36:37.300 society
00:36:38.120 they have
00:36:39.400 to find
00:36:39.960 hate
00:36:40.480 to justify
00:36:41.960 their budgets
00:36:42.580 justify
00:36:43.120 their jobs
00:36:43.740 justify
00:36:44.220 their moral
00:36:44.840 authority
00:36:45.300 so they
00:36:46.220 will find
00:36:46.880 it whether
00:36:47.280 it exists
00:36:47.780 or not
00:36:48.160 I think
00:36:48.620 that these
00:36:48.940 diversity
00:36:49.300 exclusion
00:36:49.860 committees
00:36:50.500 they will
00:36:51.860 find
00:36:52.500 racism
00:36:53.740 whether it
00:36:54.300 exists
00:36:54.640 or not
00:36:55.080 just so
00:36:56.140 they can
00:36:56.560 justify
00:36:57.080 their whole
00:36:58.400 world view
00:36:59.220 and their
00:36:59.600 job
00:37:00.220 oh exactly
00:37:02.660 there's
00:37:03.100 one part
00:37:03.940 in the
00:37:04.200 book
00:37:04.440 where I
00:37:04.940 describe
00:37:05.440 there's
00:37:06.580 kind of
00:37:06.820 a whole
00:37:07.100 back story
00:37:07.700 but in
00:37:08.100 short
00:37:08.440 there were
00:37:09.680 posters
00:37:10.020 around
00:37:10.340 campus
00:37:10.840 that said
00:37:11.400 black
00:37:11.980 lives
00:37:12.240 matter
00:37:12.500 indigenous
00:37:12.860 lives
00:37:13.280 matter
00:37:13.620 migrant
00:37:14.180 lives
00:37:14.520 matter
00:37:14.860 all of
00:37:15.620 these
00:37:15.800 lives
00:37:16.320 matter
00:37:16.680 right
00:37:16.940 and
00:37:17.860 there
00:37:18.060 was
00:37:18.180 one
00:37:18.400 poster
00:37:18.780 where
00:37:19.060 someone
00:37:19.340 had
00:37:19.560 penned
00:37:20.200 white
00:37:20.460 life
00:37:20.720 white
00:37:21.160 lives
00:37:21.480 matter
00:37:21.800 in
00:37:22.640 addition
00:37:22.920 to
00:37:23.100 all
00:37:23.300 the
00:37:23.400 other
00:37:23.560 lives
00:37:24.040 because
00:37:24.560 white
00:37:24.800 lives
00:37:25.060 matter
00:37:25.380 they were
00:37:26.380 not on
00:37:26.640 the
00:37:26.720 original
00:37:27.000 poster
00:37:27.440 and
00:37:28.540 a
00:37:29.220 student
00:37:29.680 ripped
00:37:30.360 that
00:37:30.580 poster
00:37:30.840 down
00:37:31.180 and
00:37:31.340 took
00:37:31.500 it
00:37:31.600 to
00:37:31.700 the
00:37:31.820 diversity
00:37:32.200 office
00:37:32.740 and
00:37:32.960 said
00:37:33.180 it
00:37:33.300 was
00:37:33.440 racism
00:37:33.840 well
00:37:35.880 and I'm
00:37:36.220 sure
00:37:36.420 they
00:37:36.680 thought
00:37:37.080 it
00:37:37.220 was
00:37:37.700 listen
00:37:38.560 it's
00:37:39.100 great
00:37:39.540 that
00:37:39.780 you've
00:37:40.000 got
00:37:40.140 this
00:37:40.380 book
00:37:40.680 out
00:37:41.060 I
00:37:41.300 look
00:37:41.500 forward
00:37:41.800 to
00:37:42.000 digging
00:37:42.220 into
00:37:42.580 it
00:37:42.720 I
00:37:42.780 would
00:37:42.900 encourage
00:37:43.380 our
00:37:44.280 viewers
00:37:44.980 to
00:37:45.240 read
00:37:45.500 it
00:37:45.700 the
00:37:45.940 book
00:37:46.120 is
00:37:46.240 called
00:37:46.440 diversity
00:37:46.820 and
00:37:47.060 exclusion
00:37:47.360 confronting
00:37:47.940 the
00:37:48.140 campus
00:37:48.400 free
00:37:48.680 speech
00:37:48.980 crisis
00:37:49.360 we'll
00:37:49.940 have
00:37:50.060 a
00:37:50.200 link
00:37:50.420 to
00:37:50.840 the
00:37:51.040 Amazon
00:37:51.320 page
00:37:51.700 below
00:37:51.920 this
00:37:52.140 video
00:37:52.440 I
00:37:53.260 want
00:37:53.440 to
00:37:53.540 read
00:37:53.680 it
00:37:53.780 because
00:37:54.000 it's
00:37:54.160 very
00:37:54.360 interesting
00:37:54.820 and
00:37:55.020 you
00:37:55.140 are
00:37:55.260 the
00:37:55.400 pointing
00:37:55.720 edge
00:37:56.220 of
00:37:56.500 the
00:37:56.740 spear
00:37:57.140 in
00:37:57.800 this
00:37:57.960 fight
00:37:58.420 but
00:37:59.060 more
00:37:59.280 than
00:37:59.440 that
00:37:59.740 anyone
00:38:00.180 who
00:38:00.480 writes
00:38:00.780 a
00:38:00.960 book
00:38:01.180 that
00:38:01.460 descents
00:38:01.980 from
00:38:02.260 the
00:38:02.520 woke
00:38:03.500 mindset
00:38:05.280 I
00:38:06.120 think
00:38:06.380 it
00:38:06.900 behooves
00:38:07.480 us
00:38:07.720 to
00:38:07.920 buy
00:38:08.220 that
00:38:08.480 book
00:38:08.700 just
00:38:08.920 out
00:38:09.060 of
00:38:09.180 moral
00:38:09.400 support
00:38:09.720 I
00:38:09.840 want
00:38:10.020 to
00:38:10.120 buy
00:38:10.260 it
00:38:10.380 to
00:38:10.500 read
00:38:10.780 it
00:38:11.020 but
00:38:11.760 I
00:38:11.900 think
00:38:12.060 we
00:38:12.180 have
00:38:12.360 to
00:38:12.480 buy
00:38:12.660 it
00:38:12.800 to
00:38:12.920 support
00:38:13.400 it
00:38:13.640 not
00:38:14.480 just
00:38:14.680 to
00:38:14.840 support
00:38:15.180 you
00:38:15.580 but
00:38:16.300 also
00:38:16.560 to
00:38:16.740 show
00:38:16.940 the
00:38:17.100 world
00:38:17.400 that
00:38:18.120 there
00:38:18.280 is
00:38:18.400 a
00:38:18.520 demand
00:38:18.860 for
00:38:19.060 the
00:38:19.180 conservative
00:38:19.560 point
00:38:19.800 of
00:38:19.900 view
00:38:19.980 and
00:38:20.100 I
00:38:20.240 want
00:38:20.500 your
00:38:20.720 book
00:38:21.060 to
00:38:21.660 become
00:38:21.920 the
00:38:22.080 number
00:38:22.260 one
00:38:22.520 bestseller
00:38:22.980 on
00:38:23.200 Amazon
00:38:23.480 so
00:38:23.800 the
00:38:23.960 whole
00:38:24.140 world
00:38:24.420 knows
00:38:24.980 that
00:38:26.240 there
00:38:26.440 is
00:38:26.600 another
00:38:26.840 side
00:38:27.180 of
00:38:27.280 the
00:38:27.400 story
00:38:27.760 and
00:38:28.100 that
00:38:28.240 there
00:38:28.380 is
00:38:28.500 a
00:38:28.620 public
00:38:28.880 interest
00:38:29.360 in
00:38:29.580 it
00:38:29.740 and
00:38:30.440 maybe
00:38:30.960 that
00:38:31.780 Peter
00:38:32.080 Teel
00:38:32.320 question
00:38:32.740 that
00:38:32.920 you
00:38:33.040 answered
00:38:33.440 maybe
00:38:33.840 the
00:38:35.260 emperor
00:38:35.600 has
00:38:35.900 no
00:38:36.100 clothes
00:38:36.420 and
00:38:36.540 the
00:38:36.660 number
00:38:36.840 of
00:38:36.980 people
00:38:45.180 I
00:38:45.400 think
00:38:45.520 it
00:38:45.640 is
00:38:45.660 a
00:38:45.760 very
00:38:45.900 important
00:38:46.260 book
00:38:46.520 and
00:38:46.940 I'm
00:38:47.060 delighted
00:38:47.340 to
00:38:47.500 have
00:38:47.620 you
00:38:47.720 on
00:38:47.840 the
00:38:47.960 show
00:38:48.160 for
00:38:48.380 today
00:38:48.660 so
00:38:48.840 thank
00:38:49.140 you
00:38:49.340 and
00:38:49.780 good
00:38:49.920 luck
00:38:50.080 to
00:38:50.220 you
00:38:50.500 thanks
00:38:51.820 so
00:38:51.980 much
00:38:52.160 Ezra
00:38:52.420 well
00:38:52.940 it's
00:38:53.040 great
00:38:53.200 to
00:38:53.340 see
00:38:53.520 you
00:38:53.660 again
00:38:53.840 there
00:38:54.000 you
00:38:54.100 have
00:38:54.280 it
00:38:54.400 Lindsay
00:38:54.600 Shepard
00:38:55.080 the
00:38:55.880 hero
00:38:56.220 of
00:38:56.720 the
00:38:56.840 great
00:38:57.060 battle
00:38:57.400 at
00:38:57.600 Wilfrid
00:38:58.140 Laurier
00:38:58.420 University
00:38:59.040 and
00:38:59.220 the
00:38:59.320 book
00:38:59.480 is
00:38:59.620 called
00:38:59.800 Diversity
00:39:00.300 and
00:39:01.120 Exclusion
00:39:01.640 stay
00:39:01.960 with us
00:39:02.320 more
00:39:02.520 ahead
00:39:02.800 hey
00:39:14.840 welcome
00:39:15.020 back
00:39:15.200 on my
00:39:15.400 show
00:39:15.540 last
00:39:15.800 night
00:39:16.020 Calvin
00:39:16.400 writes
00:39:16.860 I
00:39:17.480 phoned
00:39:17.640 the
00:39:17.780 Parkland
00:39:18.140 County
00:39:18.440 RCMP
00:39:18.940 complaint
00:39:19.480 line
00:39:19.780 and
00:39:20.220 blasted
00:39:20.620 them
00:39:20.740 for
00:39:20.880 their
00:39:21.040 fence
00:39:21.380 and
00:39:21.580 the
00:39:21.700 use
00:39:21.920 of
00:39:22.040 my
00:39:22.200 tax
00:39:22.540 money
00:39:22.780 to
00:39:22.940 do
00:39:23.100 it
00:39:23.300 and
00:39:24.900 that
00:39:25.340 will
00:39:25.520 just
00:39:25.740 go
00:39:25.940 straight
00:39:26.520 into
00:39:26.840 the
00:39:27.000 garbage
00:39:27.280 pile
00:39:27.640 of
00:39:27.800 the
00:39:27.880 delete
00:39:28.140 pile
00:39:28.440 they
00:39:28.660 don't
00:39:28.920 care
00:39:29.260 Jack
00:39:30.600 writes
00:39:30.960 silence
00:39:32.060 is
00:39:32.280 consent
00:39:32.720 the
00:39:32.880 reason
00:39:33.100 that
00:39:33.260 other
00:39:33.460 churches
00:39:33.780 do
00:39:33.960 not
00:39:34.120 speak
00:39:34.340 out
00:39:34.500 is
00:39:34.600 because
00:39:34.820 they
00:39:35.020 agree
00:39:35.280 with
00:39:35.480 the
00:39:35.600 government
00:39:35.800 that
00:39:36.000 churches
00:39:36.220 are
00:39:36.420 not
00:39:36.660 an
00:39:37.220 essential
00:39:37.540 service
00:39:38.060 I
00:39:38.880 know
00:39:39.100 a lot
00:39:39.420 of
00:39:39.560 churches
00:39:39.860 really
00:39:40.120 don't
00:39:40.320 believe
00:39:40.600 in
00:39:40.760 anything
00:39:41.060 anymore
00:39:41.380 but
00:39:41.540 there
00:39:41.740 are
00:39:41.880 some
00:39:42.160 that
00:39:42.340 do
00:39:42.600 I
00:39:43.100 don't
00:39:43.260 know
00:39:43.400 why
00:39:43.580 they're
00:39:43.760 so
00:39:43.940 silent
00:39:44.340 here
00:39:44.560 I
00:39:44.660 mean
00:39:44.740 isn't
00:39:45.000 the
00:39:45.140 whole
00:39:45.340 central
00:39:45.840 theology
00:39:46.940 of
00:39:47.280 the
00:39:47.480 Christian
00:39:47.900 church
00:39:48.340 sacrifice
00:39:49.140 and
00:39:49.400 martyrdom
00:39:50.020 and
00:39:51.640 being
00:39:53.260 punished
00:39:53.640 for
00:39:53.900 sins
00:39:54.360 and
00:39:54.640 accepting
00:39:55.140 that
00:39:55.540 and
00:39:55.740 defying
00:39:56.620 that
00:39:56.820 I
00:39:56.980 don't
00:39:57.100 know
00:39:57.200 I'm
00:39:57.380 not
00:39:57.740 a
00:39:57.860 Christian
00:39:58.080 so
00:39:58.300 I
00:39:58.460 shouldn't
00:39:59.020 opine
00:39:59.480 too
00:39:59.680 deeply
00:39:59.940 on
00:40:00.140 these
00:40:00.300 things
00:40:00.520 but
00:40:00.760 aren't
00:40:01.980 Christians
00:40:02.360 sort
00:40:02.660 of
00:40:02.760 about
00:40:03.260 facing
00:40:04.340 down
00:40:04.560 persecution
00:40:05.140 that's
00:40:05.440 what I
00:40:05.680 thought
00:40:05.920 Andreas
00:40:07.620 writes
00:40:07.980 there's
00:40:08.540 no
00:40:08.660 outcry
00:40:09.020 from
00:40:09.240 other
00:40:09.500 churches
00:40:09.760 because
00:40:10.040 they
00:40:10.260 are
00:40:10.360 following
00:40:10.760 fairly
00:40:11.540 reasonable
00:40:12.040 Alberta
00:40:12.340 health
00:40:12.640 regulations
00:40:13.620 during
00:40:13.980 the
00:40:14.220 one
00:40:14.940 in
00:40:15.060 a
00:40:15.180 hundred
00:40:15.360 year
00:40:15.560 pandemic
00:40:16.060 keeping
00:40:16.720 capacity
00:40:17.500 down
00:40:17.720 to
00:40:17.820 15%
00:40:18.300 of
00:40:18.440 fire
00:40:18.660 code
00:40:18.960 adding
00:40:19.600 additional
00:40:20.000 services
00:40:20.420 if necessary
00:40:20.960 and going
00:40:21.280 online
00:40:21.860 or
00:40:22.360 virtual
00:40:22.740 at this
00:40:23.340 time
00:40:23.500 it's
00:40:23.660 possible
00:40:24.020 to be
00:40:24.200 a
00:40:24.340 Christian
00:40:24.640 and
00:40:24.920 follow
00:40:25.120 the
00:40:25.280 authorities
00:40:25.640 God
00:40:25.920 has
00:40:26.080 placed
00:40:26.340 over
00:40:26.580 us
00:40:26.800 at the
00:40:27.300 same
00:40:27.460 time
00:40:27.760 AHS
00:40:28.160 isn't
00:40:28.520 asking
00:40:28.800 anyone
00:40:29.080 to
00:40:29.220 renounce
00:40:29.480 their
00:40:29.660 faith
00:40:29.920 just
00:40:30.440 use
00:40:30.600 precaution
00:40:31.060 due
00:40:31.300 to
00:40:31.420 a
00:40:31.600 health
00:40:31.780 crisis
00:40:32.160 this
00:40:32.760 isn't
00:40:33.000 religious
00:40:33.280 persecution
00:40:33.740 like
00:40:33.980 the
00:40:34.100 rebel
00:40:34.260 in
00:40:34.380 Grace
00:40:34.560 Life
00:40:34.700 Church
00:40:34.900 would
00:40:35.100 like
00:40:35.300 to
00:40:35.460 paint
00:40:35.620 it
00:40:35.780 well
00:40:36.420 I
00:40:36.500 appreciate
00:40:36.780 you
00:40:36.960 taking
00:40:37.180 the
00:40:37.340 time
00:40:37.580 to
00:40:37.780 make
00:40:37.960 that
00:40:38.140 point
00:40:38.480 but I
00:40:39.080 would
00:40:39.180 like
00:40:39.360 to
00:40:39.460 give
00:40:39.560 you
00:40:39.640 a few
00:40:39.880 facts
00:40:40.200 in return
00:40:40.600 first of
00:40:41.040 all
00:40:41.200 no one
00:40:42.680 at
00:40:42.800 Grace
00:40:43.020 Life
00:40:43.200 Church
00:40:43.480 has
00:40:43.680 got
00:40:43.860 sick
00:40:44.180 let
00:40:44.780 alone
00:40:45.020 had
00:40:45.220 an
00:40:45.340 outbreak
00:40:45.660 so
00:40:46.680 it's
00:40:47.040 just
00:40:47.300 not
00:40:47.580 factually
00:40:48.100 true
00:40:48.360 that
00:40:48.520 this
00:40:48.700 is
00:40:48.820 a
00:40:48.960 one
00:40:49.180 in
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