Trump declares a moratorium on immigration： Will it spark a debate in Canada？
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Donald Trump announces a moratorium on immigration, and 80% of Americans agree with him. What does that mean for the economy, jobs, and the economy in general? And why is this a good idea? Ezra Levant explains why.
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Hello, my friends. Donald Trump has announced an immigration moratorium that comes from the
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Latin word for death. He's just going to shut it down to zero. And a U.S. poll says that 80%
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of Americans agree with him. Hey, what do you think the stats would be up here in Canada?
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Tonight, Donald Trump declares a moratorium on immigration. It's April 21st, and this
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is the Ezra Levant Show. Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer
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I know? There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer. The only thing
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I have to say to the government of a wire publisher is because it's my bloody right to do so.
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Last night at around 10 p.m., Donald Trump just decided to tweet this. In light of the attack
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from the invisible enemy, as well as the need to protect the jobs of our great American citizens,
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I will be signing an executive order to temporarily suspend immigration into the United States.
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Well, there's a bit of news. It was a surprise, but not a shock. Trump has made restricting
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immigration part of his platform since he ran for the Republican nomination. Precious little
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of the wall with Mexico has been built, and our friend Joel Pollack repeatedly tells me
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that's because the Democrat-dominated Congress always foils his plans. I don't know. I've grown
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a bit skeptical of Trump on that one. As well, Jared Kushner, other high-ups around Donald Trump.
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I think there's too many Wall Street banker types in the administration. Those are people from the
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class who have an economic stake in unfettered immigration, open borders. Real estate developers
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who like people buying houses, mass immigration, bankers, global companies looking for cheap labor.
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I'm worried that Trump's announcement, which given the fact that it was done at 10 p.m. on Twitter,
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suggests maybe it wasn't really workshopped through the regular channels. I'm worried it might be
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watered down by the open borders folks in his administration. There certainly are some of them.
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But at least right now, it's a bold announcement. And by the way, it would be by far the most
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popular thing he's ever done as president. By far. Here's a poll by the Reuters news agency,
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hardly a conservative organization. About 8 in 10 support drastic steps on immigration,
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imposing mandatory quarantines for people who have traveled to any other country,
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and temporarily stopping immigration from all other countries. Well, in my view,
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that first ship has pretty much sailed. Trump did restrict flights from China way back in January,
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which is universally regarded as having reduced the number of virus deaths in America and bought
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the U.S. more time. Quarantines are a good idea, too. Even lazy open borders Justin Trudeau has
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finally brought in quarantine measures to Canada, pretty much the last country in the world to do so.
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But the second part of the poll there, stopping not just visitors, but all immigration,
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that's something supported by 80% of people. 80%. Here's the actual poll document itself from
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Ipsos. Look at question six there. What should the government do? 92% of people want access to the
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virus tests. I think that's a really good idea. That would allow us to deal with people who are sick
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differently than how we deal with people who are healthy. And right now, 99% of us are healthy,
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but we're being all quarantined together as if we're all sick. That's not how a quarantine is
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supposed to work. And a test would not just set the rest of us free, but it would allow us to focus our
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resources to give actual help to the people who really need it. Anyways, you can see travel
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quarantines are on the list there, too. And as you can see, that's up to 81% support from 60% just last
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month. But look at that. Look at that. Temporarily stop immigration from all other countries, 79%.
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Now, Donald Trump's partisan approval, according to the Daily Erasmussen poll, clocked in at 46%
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yesterday. Usually hovers between there and around the 50% mark. So the fact that he's still in the 40
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to 50, 55% zone with plus or minus, despite the worst crisis to hit America since, I don't know,
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the Vietnam War, since the Second World War. It's remarkable, not only the deaths and the fear from
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the virus, but 20 million plus unemployed Americans. It's actually stunning that he's still holding on to
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the approval ratings he has. I think people watch his daily briefings, and they see that he's doing
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his best, making good decisions, is actively engaged, is working seven days a week. And he
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seems to be doing the right things, often while Democrats play games. And they really are. I mean,
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here's Nancy Pelosi, the de facto leader of the Democrats, going on a late night talk show from
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her multi-million dollar mansion. And by the way, those fridges behind her, they cost about $24,000.
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Take a look at this for a second. Oh, my. Wow. Other people in our family go for some other
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flavors, but chocolate, and then we have some other chocolate here. I've always felt a connection
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with you, and now I understand why. Since you've been isolating in your house, how much of your
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regular diet do you think is ice cream and candy? Well, as much as possible. I enjoy it. I like it
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better than anything else. That was what Pelosi was doing as she was blocking Trump's plans to send
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Trump bucks to everyone, you know, a quick $1,200 check to every American. Of course Pelosi wants to
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block that. I understand the checks would actually have Trump's signature on them. Of course she would
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hate that. That's supposed to be a Democrat move, giving people free money. You know, Trump actually
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consulted with Andrew Yang, the quirky former Democrat presidential nominee who proposed universal
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income. It was a move to appeal to the left, and Nancy Pelosi knows it, so she blocked it as best she
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could. And look at the Republican ad that was just rolled out yesterday about that. This is just
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absolutely brutal. We turn now to that $350 billion fund to help small businesses and its workers get
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through the shutdown. It will be up to Congress to restock it. But Democrats blocking that move this
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morning. They asked for a quarter of a trillion dollars in 48 hours. I said, well, I don't think so.
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They objected, and I congratulate the Senate Democrats. Speaker Pelosi, what are you going to share with us from
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your home? Chocolate candy. Thousands have been forced to wait for hours at food banks all across
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the country. This is chocolate, and then we have some other chocolate here. We just got to restock the
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ice cream. You don't want to eat up everything at one time. I can't do it much longer. I'm trying so
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hard. We were, shall we say, enjoying. Having to admit that, yeah, we're starving, and I like it better than
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anything else. Taping this segment, there are 22 million people out for it. This specific program
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is about stopping job losses today. This is hurting people bad. Other people in our family go for some
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other flavors, but. Right now it's survival move. You don't know where that next something else is
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going to come from. I don't know what I would have done if ice cream were not invented. I just wonder.
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Nancy Antoinette. It's a bit amazing that a billionaire, an ostentatious guy like Donald
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Trump has better grassroots working class sensibilities than the Democrats who claim to
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be the party of working people. But the fact is, it's tough out there, and Trump knows it. 20 million
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Americans looking for work, and we have the equivalent proportion in Canada too. About one-tenth that.
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I'm not sure when the official unemployment stats come out, but I presume we're going to be at around
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20% unemployment, and it will be much worse in places like Alberta, where the price of oil has
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effectively fallen to zero. Now that's obviously a function of supply and demand. America has been
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producing record amounts of oil from fracking, but then all of a sudden the world pushed pause on
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all sorts of economic activity, including driving and flying, which is where a lot of
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petroleum goes to. At the same time, OPEC and Russia were just giving her on production. So the
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price of oil plummeted because there's literally more oil every day than everyone wants. We've had
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that problem in Alberta for a few years because Trudeau and his cronies have simply blocked pipelines. So
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there's a glut. But for the U.S., this is just a huge overproduction problem. By the way, Trump has a
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plan for that too. Based on the record low price of oil that you've been seeing, it's at a level that's
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very interesting to a lot of people. We're filling up our national petroleum reserves, strategic, you know,
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the strategic reserves. And we're looking to put as much as 75 million barrels into the reserves
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themselves. That would top it out. That would be the first time in a long time it's been topped out. We'd get it for the right price.
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Makes sense as a way to sop up some of that extra oil supply to save jobs in the American oil and gas sector.
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And Trump knows the maxim, buy low, sell high. Pretty basic. If you could buy 75 million barrels of oil right now at
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next to nothing and be patient enough to hold on to it until the price rebounds, I mean, wouldn't you do that too?
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Do you see what I mean? Trump is working. He's working on everything. People see that and he's using his businessman's brain.
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Trudeau doesn't have that brain. But the immigration moratorium in the way, in the way it's the same issue as the oil problem.
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It's supply and demand. Here's a statistic courtesy of Breitbart. Take a look at this.
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For four decades, the United States has admitted between 525,000 to 1.8 million legal immigrants annually,
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the majority of which immediately enter the workforce to compete against Americans for working class jobs.
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Well, that's the thing. Just like the price of oil has plunged because of too much supply and too
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little demand. Well, you've now got 22 million unemployed American citizens right now. Talk about
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huge labor supply. So the price of that labor has fallen. Demand is low. Why would you then bring in
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a half a million or a million foreign laborers now to add to the oversupply of labor just to undercut
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American wages even more by working for cheap? And of course, that's just the legal immigration numbers.
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There's lots of illegal immigration there, too. You'll note that those numbers sound high.
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immigration on an annual basis. It's about a million a year and has been for about two decades, whether
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it was President Barack Obama or Republican George W. Bush. The last time it was significantly lower
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was under Ronald Reagan. A million migrants a year, plus illegals. Well, I got to tell you, that's nothing.
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That's nothing. Because, of course, we have one-tenth the population of the U.S., so you'd think our
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immigration would be one-tenth theirs, right? A hundred thousand a year? No, no, no. It's more
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than triple that. And even during this crisis, when Service Canada workers have basically decided to go
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on strike, they still continue to process immigration applications to this day. Here's a story from just a
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couple weeks ago in the Financial Post. The department continues to accept and process
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applications throughout the period of these temporary measures, Kevin Lemke, a spokesman for
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Mendocino, that's the immigration minister, said by email. Immigration has and will continue to be
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critical to Canada's long-term success as we work to recover from the economic headwinds we are facing
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due to the coronavirus. Following past downturns, says the Financial Post, international migration
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levels have tended to rebound quickly, aided by a broad political consensus. The inflows are good
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for the country. Really, eh? A broad political consensus. Now, I suppose it's true. Andrew Scheer
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absolutely caved on the issue of immigration levels in the last election. And literally, his only answer
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to the question on how much migration is good is, well, whatever Trudeau wants. Remember this
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cringeworthy exchange? But you still didn't give a number, and you would have to set a target as
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government. That's part of your job, is to set a government level. So if the target right now is
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350,000 immigrants by 2021, is that about what you're looking at? I think that's reasonable, yeah. And
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again, as long as that's coming from facts, from evidence, from a look at the situation and an
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understanding of where our society has needs, then absolutely. Imagine going on a show with a state
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broadcaster, the government journalist, Rosemary Barton, who is personally suing your party. She sued
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the conservatives in the last election, and allowing her to pressure you into blurting out some immigration
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policy on the spot. You know, Andrew Scheer had managed to not come up with any statement during the
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entire campaign about immigration levels. And he literally made it up right there on the spot
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because he felt some peer pressure from some journalist, and he wanted some relief from 60
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seconds of discomfort. So yeah, I guess it's true, other than the fact that Canada's most popular
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premier, at least until the virus crisis, was Francois Legault, who ran on an explicit campaign
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promise to reduce immigration to Quebec by 20%. I remind you that in real Canada, 90% of Canadians either want
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immigration numbers to stay the same or fall. Now that's different from a moratorium, which Trump
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is proposing. A moratorium comes from the word die, to absolutely be cut to zero. But I imagine if a
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pollster in Canada were to ask the moratorium question fairly, the answer would be similar,
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especially after 20% unemployment sinks in for a few months. But that's what's been so odd about
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Trudeau's response. He really isn't in charge of much during the pandemic. I mean, healthcare is a
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provincial matter. Trudeau doesn't have any hospitals under his command. No nurses or doctors
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work for Trudeau. Other than that, WHO lobbyist, Teresa Tam, literally Trudeau's only job was to
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watch the borders at airports and at Roxham Road. He failed both miserably, and he absolutely seems
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dead set on continuing open borders immigration, at least according to his immigration minister
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spokesman. And you know, the media party completely agrees. Now we'll see if the U.S. moratorium
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sparks a debate in our country about open borders immigration too. I'm skeptical because the entire
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political class, other than Quebec, is in lockstep on it. Do you really think Peter McKay or Aaron O'Toole
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would dare to oppose open borders even now? I don't. What media would? None, at least none that take
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Trudeau's bailout, but we'll see. Trudeau often does the exact opposite of Trump just to spite him.
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When Trump brought in his first limited immigration moratorium in 2017, targeting various terrorist
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countries, well, that's when Trudeau wrote this on Twitter. To those fleeing persecution, terror, and war,
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Canadians will welcome you, regardless of your faith. Diversity is our strength. Welcome to Canada!
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And he then opened up Roxham Road. It was a pouty rejoinder to Trump. Ironically, it meant 50,000
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of America's worst people. And by that, I mean people who had been ordered out of the country.
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Bogus refugees who have had their claims rejected in the States. And literal criminals, they simply
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walked in from New York State to Quebec, and then on to Toronto or wherever. But hey, nice tweet, bro.
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Maybe we'll see the same after Trump's executive order comes. Maybe Trudeau will double down on open
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borders, go even further. We'll see. Back in January 2017, Trudeau himself was still new enough.
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That was before his blackface revelations, before he fired Jody Wilson-Raybould, before he shut down
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the oil and gas industry, when the economy was still strong enough, when unemployment was still low
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enough, before the virus and before 20% unemployment. I'm not sure if open borders immigration will work
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Well, we've been privileged to talk to the next expert about China matters for years. But now I turn on
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the TV, I see him everywhere. He's become America's go-to expert for all matters regarding China. You
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probably know who I mean. It's our friend Gordon Chang, who you can follow on Gordon G Chang on Twitter.
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Gordon, great to see you again. Thanks for jamming us in. I really am glad that the world is seeking
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your point of view on China, given how so much of the diplomatic establishment is pro-Beijing. I'm glad
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you're out there as a counterpoint. Oh, you're so generous, Ezra. And I'm so pleased to be on your show.
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So thank you. Well, thanks very much. Let me get to some news, because holy cow, the last few days
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have been packed with him. First of all, let me ask you about reports that seem to be walked back a
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little bit that Kim Jong-un, the dictator of North Korea, fell ill from the virus. Do you have any news
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on that? Well, people are saying that foreign doctors, either from China or from Europe, brought
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the coronavirus to Kim Jong-un. And that's really possible because those doctors were supposed to
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come to North Korea about February or so. But it's clear that Kim is suffering right now because he
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didn't show up for the most important day in North Korea's calendar, which is April 15th, the day of the
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sun, which commemorates the birth of his grandfather, Kim Il-sung. You know, Kim loves a microphone. So for
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him to be a no-show indicates something is really wrong. So I tend to believe that there is a serious
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health issue. Of course, you know, we won't know for quite some time, but I don't think that the
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Chinese and the South Korean reports downplaying what's going on are quite accurate. I know that
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there's a lot of intrigues there and even family assassinations or un-personing. Do you know who might
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be the heir apparent if Kim were to die? Would it be some military general? Would it be a family
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member? Is it clear at all who his successor is? Well, there would be a family member in the mix.
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And the reason is that the regime needs the PEC-2 bloodline, as it's called. That's for legitimacy.
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You know, Kim's younger sister, Kim Yo-jong, is generally considered to be the most capable of Kim Jong-il's
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children. And that really means that she's probably got at least the lead lane right now
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for taking over. I mean, she's ruthless from what we can tell. And that's an indication that she's got
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what it takes to survive in a very stressful environment. So the problem has always been for
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her that in a Confucian-tinged regime, you've got to be a male. But I think she's going to end up at
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least being the regent and maybe even the power itself.
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I was going to ask one last question on North Korea, and then I want to move around the region a little
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bit. I don't know how much Donald Trump genuinely got in return for his normalization with Kim Jong-un.
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But would any successor likely be more hardline or more liberal, do you think? Or is it just impossible
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You know, Ezra, I would think more hardline because being anti-US is just inherent in the nature of the
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regime. And so, you know, a young leader is or new leader is going to have to prove that they are
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really North Korean. And I think that it means that whoever shows up and is the next leader of North Korea,
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if it's soon, is going to have to really take a very tough position on the United States.
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Very interesting. Well, let's move down to Hong Kong now. It was almost lost in the international news
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shuffle of the last week that police in Hong Kong arrested very many senior democracy organizers.
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Obviously, I don't know the names of all of them, but even I knew the names of some of the senior
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Democrat activists who've been at it for decades. Martin Lee, if I'm not mistaken, was the name of
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one of them. We interviewed him when we sent reporters to Hong Kong last year. These are very
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prominent people. Why do you think China is moving on them now? Is it because they want to show
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strength in their own domain? Or is it because they're taking advantage of the world's distraction
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or both? Yeah, I think it's actually taking advantage of the world's distraction. I mean,
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we've seen Beijing do some really strange things recently. So for instance, there have been provocations
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in both the East China Sea and South China Sea. And it's not just Japan and Taiwan. They've also
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gone after Vietnam, Indonesia, and their good friend, Malaysia. And you had a Chinese diplomat
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talk about China actually absorbing Kazakhstan into the People's Republic. This is just stunning stuff.
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So I think that essentially, you've got a political system that is off the rails in Beijing in terms of
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only the hardline solutions are politically acceptable. Plus, Xi Jinping,
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the Chinese ruler probably saw he had an opportunity. And it was just not the mass arrest of the 15
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figures. It was also an assault on Hong Kong's legal structure. So this is really bad news. And I think
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the people in Hong Kong are actually going to have to take a last stand against China, because this is
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where they do or die. I follow a number of somewhat reliable Twitter feeds for dissident videos from
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China. But you always have to take them with a bit of a grain of sand, a grain of salt, because I don't
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know if they're as current as they seem to be. I don't know if the meaning is what they purport. But I do
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see a lot of videos that look like spontaneous grassroots protests of some sort, people whose
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rents were hiked, people who were shut out of apartments. I see what looks like a slow burning
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discontent on the streets. I don't know, maybe I'm getting a skewed picture. It's so hard to tell.
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Based on your sources, is there some brewing discontent in the country that's more than usual,
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or it's just that everybody's on a cell phone camera now, so we see more of it?
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I actually think that there is more anger right now. First of all, there was white hot anger
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about the Communist Party's mishandling of the coronavirus epidemic. People really angry,
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especially at the death of Dr. Li Wenliang, who was one of the Wuhan 8 on February 7th. I mean,
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we saw that across China's social media platforms. I mean, they started to, you know, adopt
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Do You Hear the People Sing, which is that politically impactful anthem from Les Miserables.
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And that's actually a song that people in Hong Kong sang as a protest against China.
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Plus, also, Ezra, what makes this, I think, a couple of things are occurring also. First of all,
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the virus is subsiding in places. So people are now just sort of indulging in recrimination.
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Plus, also, the economy is contracting. And so China can't say, well, you know, we ensure the
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continual delivery of prosperity. So I think people are just, you know, it's several things
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occurring at the same time, all undermining the legitimacy of the Communist Party. And it's going
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to be a very stressful time for the party to get through this.
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Let me ask you one last question about China's diplomatic stance. I see that the Chinese ambassador
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to Canada is implying that any sort of criticism of the virus as a Chinese emanation, whether by
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accident or on fault, is a form of racism. And I saw a shocking tweet just in the last day or so
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by not a diplomat, but a sort of diplomat, an English language propagandist for Global Times,
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who, I think it was him, I followed too many, who invoked the memory of Tiananmen Square.
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He tweeted an image of a nurse in the street standing athwart some American protester who wanted
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the lockdown to end. And this Chinese spokesman said, this is like the man versus the tank in
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Tiananmen Square. I thought, I thought it was a shocking tweet that implied this was America's
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version of Tiananmen Square. The shocking accusation that Canada is racist towards China. I just see an
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aggressive tone. Is that just designed to please Beijing and make Beijing feel good? Or is this some
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sort of larger objective strategy to take on America and the world?
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Yeah, that's a great question. And I don't have the answer to that. And also, you can add to that
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the comments from the Chinese ambassador to France. I mean, they were so awful that he got called in on
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the carpet by the French foreign ministry. But this is occurring across the board. I think it's an
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indication that people are trying to curry favor with the hardliners in Beijing. And it's a real
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indication, I think, of actually probably infighting at the top of the Communist Party,
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because people are lining up on sides. So that's my guess. But it's really hard to tell, Ezra,
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because, of course, China is not a transparent political system. And right now, I mean, we get
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hints of infighting at the top. But I think that when you ever have that stress, diplomats go for
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the default position, which is really the most nationalistic, the most ugly, just the most awful.
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And it's not serving China well. But that's just the nature of the system.
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Very interesting. Well, Gordon, we're always grateful when you stop by. I've seen you on so many
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prestigious channels across America. I've seen you in documentaries recently. And I feel a sense of
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pride, because I know that we've been talking to you on these subjects long before they became so
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front page. And I wish you good luck. And your wisdom is being spread. And we hang on your every
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word. Once again, I want to encourage our viewers to follow you on Twitter at Gordon G. Chang. And good
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luck, my friend. Keep it up. Oh, well, thank you so much, Ezra. As I said, I really appreciate the
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opportunity to be on your show. Well, it's nice of you to say standing invitation anytime. Good luck out
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there. Thanks, Ezra. Right. There you have it. Gordon G. Chang. Very thoughtful and a range of
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issues. Of course, China is at the center of so many of them. Stay with us. More ahead on The Rebel.
00:28:52.380
Hey, welcome back. On my monologue yesterday, asking if Dr. Tam is part of China's World Health
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Organization cover-up. David writes, is Dr. Tam somehow compromised by the Chinese Communist Party?
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Does she have family in China under threat? Communist regimes for the last century have
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used this kind of leash to control their functionaries. Well, that's a fair question,
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I think. As far as I know, Dr. Tam comes from Hong Kong, and I would imagine her family is. So
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I think they're fairly free there. I mean, China is getting more and more brutal in Hong Kong all the
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time. But I don't think she's under duress. I think she just has the globalist mindset. And she
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works for the World Health Organization, which is an enormous conflict of interest. In fact,
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she's on various oversight committees. So she's hardwired to that thing. She can't renounce it
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or reject it. It's her. I think that's part of the big problem. Gina writes, Dr. Tam was not
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encouraging people to wear a mask. If she was, we would not have lost that many lives.
00:29:55.040
Well, and that's the thing. I'm wondering, why did she tell people the obvious fib that masks don't
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work? I mean, we see masks all over the place. The places that are closest to China wear masks the
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most. South Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan, because they don't have any time for politically correct BS.
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They know masks work. So why would she say they don't work? I have two theories. One is because
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she was obeying the World Health Organization. And I think China wanted to hit the snooze button on
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the alarm so they could hoover up the world's face masks for themselves. And number two,
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I think the fact that Justin Trudeau had shipped off our national stockpile of masks.
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So she was covering for him. If she said, yeah, everybody get a mask. And we realized we didn't
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have masks. People said, Trudeau, why did he give away the masks? It would get her boss in trouble.
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So I think Theresa Tam is more of a globalist and a Trudeau activist than a public health doctor.
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I think that's the problem. On our campaign, fightthefines.com, Paul writes,
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fight the fines may just as well be fight the fascists when you think about it.
00:31:02.960
Well, what's disturbing to me is that police have no guidance here. And so, and they're probably under
00:31:08.960
stress, although there's not a lot of people out on the streets. I actually don't know how stressful
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it is to be a cop because a lot of people just are at home in their houses. There are no bars.
00:31:18.640
People aren't going out to the bar, stumbling out into the street drunk at midnight, getting into
00:31:22.460
fisticuffs. There's no dance clubs or nightclubs or places where other young men get into fisticuffs.
00:31:27.620
So in some ways, I think that the stress is reduced for cops. I guess maybe they're worried about
00:31:34.040
getting the virus and then some have. But I think the problem is they don't know what the rules are.
00:31:40.100
And John Tory, for example, the mayor of Toronto does a press conference saying he wants a lot
00:31:46.060
more arrests and a lot more tickets handed out. Well, that's pressure on the chief, which puts
00:31:50.180
pressure on the beat cops. And they don't even know the rules. They don't know about ticketing
00:31:54.100
people for sitting on a park bench. That's ridiculous. So I think it's a combination of
00:31:57.740
political pressure from bullies like John Tory and other mayors, cops who don't know what they're
00:32:03.540
doing. And some of them have an authoritarian instinct and I think a general panic. But I
00:32:08.840
think that panic is passing. Now we're just seeing that what we have left is an authoritarian state
00:32:14.080
trying to seep into the cracks. That's what we've got to fight back on. By the way, we've got a lot
00:32:19.620
more cases coming from fightthefines.com and we'll roll those out in a few days. It just takes a few
00:32:24.280
days to process them, have them talk to the lawyers and then do a video on it. So I expect we'll have a
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couple more videos this week and thanks for your help. All right. That's today's show on behalf of
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all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters to you at home. Good night, stay healthy and keep fighting