Trump is interviewed by 60 Minutes — but it goes so brutally, he releases the unedited video before they ca
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Trump releases the unedited version of his interview with Leslie Stahl of 60 Minutes, and it's brutal. It's a heckle fight, but it's not an interview, and I think he wanted to show the world what it was really like before 60 Minutes editors deceived and misdirect.
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Hello, my friends. Today I do something very painful. I take you through a 37-minute interview
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that Donald Trump had with Leslie Stahl of 60 Minutes. It's a version that he released before
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they did, because it's just such a brutal trench warfare quarrel. It's a heckle fight. It's a
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quarrel. It's not an interview. But I think he wanted to show the world what it was really like
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before 60 Minutes editors deceive and misdirect in their final version. It's sort of incredible,
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although it does feel repetitive. I hope you get some value out of it. Let me invite you to become
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subscribe. All right, without further ado, let me invite you to listen to a brutal, brutal interview.
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Tonight, Donald Trump is interviewed by 60 Minutes, but it goes so brutally,
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he releases the unedited video before they can. It's October 22nd, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government, the wire publisher, is because it's my bloody right to do so.
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Tonight is another debate between Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
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The moderator isn't moderate. She's an Obama activist. Pictured here.
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Her family are huge Democrat donors. She purged her Twitter feed to make her past comments disappear.
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So, yeah, it's another setup, just like they always are.
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By the way, Sheila Gunn-Reed and I will be doing a live commentary show tonight around the debate,
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so feel free to join us on YouTube to watch for our watch party right after this video.
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But I want to show you another very interesting video that was released today by Donald Trump himself,
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which is odd because it's an interview with Trump on the CBC flagship show 60 Minutes
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Liberal interviewer, that's redundant, isn't it?
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But Trump always engages with leftist journalists.
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Compare that to Joe Biden, who doesn't engage with any journalist.
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Not that he has to. They're fine with him dicking literally five days off from talking to journalists in the campaign.
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That's why Biden announced at the beginning of this week, just no questions all week.
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Obviously, he's worried about questions, but revelations that his son took huge payments from places like China and Ukraine and Russia.
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I mean, seriously, when the wife of the former mayor of Moscow wires $3.5 million to Hunter Biden when his dad was vice president.
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Oh, and then the U.S. stayed pretty quiet when Russia invaded the country of Georgia shortly thereafter.
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And when Hunter Biden has no real marketable skills other than being Joe Biden's son.
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And when leaked emails show that Hunter was sharing half of his money with his dad, Joe Biden.
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One of the last Joe Biden did before he disappeared for five days.
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Anyway, so Trump went on 60 Minutes, liberal show, but he's up for it.
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But Leslie Stahl of 60 Minutes interrupted him literally every 15 seconds.
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I started watching it and Trump would start talking and then she'd interrupt him.
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I doubt he got five full sentences out in the entire 37-minute raw interview.
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I went back and watched it a second time with that in mind.
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She wasn't asking real questions, let alone listening.
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It was so weird, so weird that Trump had to, well, he made the decision, I think very wisely,
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to release his unedited version of the interview first,
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knowing full well that 60 Minutes would edit it and cut and paste it deceptively.
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And I'd like to share a bunch of clips with you.
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So I'll just give you a few thoughts between each of them.
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I want to take up so much time that we're going to defer today's guest interview to tomorrow.
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Instead of just asking tough questions, which is fine,
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Stahl wants to talk to Trump about the fact that she wants to ask tough questions.
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I thought it was a weird way to start, but I think it shows what this was really about.
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It wasn't really about interviewing Donald Trump.
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It was about a journalist having her moment in the sun, going toe-to-toe with Trump.
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Not about learning about what the president's thinking or reporting on the facts of the campaign,
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I'm going to defer today's interview to tomorrow.
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But last time, I remember you saying to me, bring it on.
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Let me ask you what you think the biggest domestic priority is for you right now.
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Well, ultimately, and I'll tell you, it was happening.
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We created the greatest economy in the history of our country.
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Best unemployment numbers, best employment numbers, 160 million people working, highest stock market price.
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You wouldn't say that to Biden, what you just said to me.
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If he had it, if he had it, you would never say that to Biden.
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Our companies were doing better than they've ever done before.
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You cannot even think about talking about that.
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He was 10 seconds into an answer about the U.S. economy being strong until the pandemic tanked it, which it was.
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This is the only foreign affairs question in the whole interview.
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They're a foe in many ways, but they're an adversary.
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They should never have allowed this plague to get out of China and go throughout the world.
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The flag is wobbling, I think, because it's under, because then I'll perhaps find you.
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And the question is never followed up on him for the next 33 minutes.
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How would a question asker, reporter, do it versus a heckler?
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And you tell me, is Leslie still asking questions, looking for answers, or is she just looking to heckle and bark?
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At this stage, four years ago, you were behind in the falls.
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At this time, you have kind of a double migraine.
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I mean, it's like the gods have suddenly decided to conspire against you.
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Because the last report was a little bit, just a little bit off.
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If we didn't do testing, cases would be way down.
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You know, Pete, you're saying things that people...
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I don't know what I'm saying to you, Leslie, is the following.
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We do more testing than any country in the world by far.
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If we did half the testing, we'd have half the cases.
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If we did no testing, like many countries, we would have very few cases.
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Because we do so much testing, the fake news media loves to say cases are up.
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You know, I think I would have liked to have had some of the answers there.
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I think she spoke more there and interrupted him more than he could talk.
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And if you're debating him, if it's candidate versus candidate,
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This is a serious question posed by a serious investigative journalist.
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And then I'm going to show you the joke she's talking about.
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You know, that's so misleading the way I say jokingly,
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suburban women, you should love me because I'm giving you security
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See, the way you said that is why people think of you
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I said kiddingly, suburban women, you should love me.
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I got rid of a regulation that would bring low-income housing into suburbia
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that is destroying, that would destroy suburbia.
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The way you have it, it's like, oh, like I'm begging.
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But you're behind the suburban women in the polls.
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So she's asking him about a joke as if it's serious.
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The other thing, I don't have that much time to be that nice.
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You know, I can do it, but I got to go quickly.
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Now, we saved your, we saved suburbia in the U.S.
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President Trump, why did you ask them to, it was a joke.
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Can you not see he's got a sense of humor and how on point he is to call her out?
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I mean, what is Trump's relationship with Dr. Fauci?
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I think it's a complex relationship that's had its ups and downs.
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I would have liked to have heard Trump's answers, but he never really had a chance.
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Because you called Dr. Fauci and other health officials idiots.
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I'm wondering if you think that masks don't work.
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Well, Dr. Fauci originally said, you know, it's a great complex subject.
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Let me just tell you, you mentioned that Dr. Fauci said don't wear masks.
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Then he said, well, I say that I feel masks possibly work.
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I would have liked to, so many interruptions, but she said you called Fauci an idiot.
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I mean, it wouldn't be shocking to me to have Trump call someone an idiot.
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I mean, look at Fauci wearing his mask beneath his face here at the baseball game.
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I'm not sure if Fauci believes in masks either.
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He didn't take it, and she moved on as if she didn't do it.
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You've got the president of the United States for half an hour.
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That's an eternity in terms of the amount of time he has.
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And this is your, how come you called that guy who used to work for you a few months ago?
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This is the top journalistic enterprise in America, 60 Minutes.
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You've got the president, and this is what you're asking him?
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Yesterday, we were in Arizona, record-setting rallies, numbers of people like nobody's seen
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You just come in here with that negative attitude.
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There is more, excuse me, you made a statement.
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There is more enthusiasm right now for us than we ever had before, ever.
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And you will see that in a short period of time.
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You're talking to the president about the size of his rallies.
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When you look at it and say, well, what is she doing?
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Is she asking real questions to enlighten, to shed light on the president's thinking,
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to sharpen the differences between Trump and Biden?
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Or is she just needling him and heckling him, not even well-researched?
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As soon as he objects to something, she drops it.
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But I want to play for you two minutes of Trump and Leslie Stahl.
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And I'm not saying tough journalism or aggressive journalism.
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But isn't this heckling and haggling and quarreling?
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And isn't Leslie Stahl making this about her instead of her viewers?
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Just take two minutes and tell me, do you actually learn anything here?
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They want it outdoor, and we're doing it out loud.
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I can't believe after what happened in the most part of the year after the announcement,
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But you are not being more strongly, encouraging, about wearing masks.
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Well, if you've been looking yesterday, take a look at, take a look yesterday in Arizona.
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And you don't get up there and say, look, you know, come on.
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There has never been anything like what you're witnessing now.
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Okay, but I'm asking about masks, not about the size of the rallies.
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You said they're not as big as they used to be.
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Why aren't you getting up there and saying, I had it.
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Leslie, we hand out masks to everybody that comes to the rally.
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You saw in that jokey, please like me video, all the women behind him were wearing MAGA,
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But seriously, I mean, Trump just brokered peace between Israel and a half a dozen little
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Nothing about foreign affairs, nothing about trade, nothing about the energy industry.
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We're now more than halfway through the interview.
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Oh, and by the way, here's a picture of Leslie Stahl here.
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But Trump, I think at this point, Trump sort of decided he was fed up and he wanted to turn
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And take a look at him talking to her about the news of the day, Hunter Biden and Joe Biden,
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And look at her get defensive, in defense of her man, Joe Biden.
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I think this is the highlight of the whole interview, which tells you it will not be part
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I wish you would interview Joe Biden like you interviewed me.
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I don't mind, I don't mind, but when I watch him walk out of his store, he's in the midst
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And the question the media asks him, what kind of ice cream, what flavor ice cream can
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So you're like, you're like, you're like big tech.
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You're taking something that was investigated by a Republican committee.
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You think it's okay for the mayor of Moscow's wife to give him millions and millions of dollars,
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three and a half million dollars, to give his family three and a half?
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Do you think it's okay for Hunter Biden to say that we're giving the big guy 10% of this
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Do you think it's okay for all of these horrible things that you've seen where they're getting
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hundreds of thousands and millions of dollars, where China gives them a billion and a half
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dollars to manage the family, a billion and a half dollars, and then he's supposed to
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Let me tell you, it's the biggest, second biggest scandal.
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The biggest scandal was when they spied on my campaign.
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So she's defending the Bidens, not asking them questions, stopping him from asking questions.
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Leslie, they spied on my campaign and they got called.
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You know, this is 60 minutes, and we can't put on things we can't verify.
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You won't put it on because it's bad for Biden.
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And then they went much further than that, and they got called.
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And you know that, but you just don't want to put it on.
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So why don't you get back to your interview, and let's go.
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I thought that was great by Trump to turn the tables, but why is she defending the Biden?
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How about you say, that's a question for the Bidens, let's get back.
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Why was she so naturally in the role of defending the Bidens?
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All politicians poke and prod and insult the others.
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And Joe Biden is almost on Trump's level when he does so.
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He's not as funny or clever as Trump, but he calls people names.
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He challenges them to push-up contests, which I guess is sort of funny.
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He really shouts at reporters, insults reporters, almost as much as Trump.
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I've never seen Trump engage in racist language, but Joe Biden always has.
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But only with Trump is that a central focus in an election interview.
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You're not interested in policy, world affairs, domestic affairs, but you want to talk to Trump
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And this is what you do with him when you have him on the eve of an election?
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So why don't you get back to your interview and let's go.
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Do you think that your tweets and your name volume are turning people off?
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No, I think I wouldn't be here if I didn't have social media because the media is corrupt.
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If you didn't have social media, you would only get a stream of lies against them.
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You told me a long time ago when I asked why you keep saying fake.
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You said to me, I say that because I need to discredit you so that when you say negative things about me, no one will be me.
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When you say that you're not going to cover Biden, you're going to ask him what flavor ice cream he has.
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Instead of why did Hunter get three and a half million dollars from Moscow?
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Instead of why is an energy company paying your son $183,000 a month or whatever they're paying him and he has no experience in energy.
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So this story about Hunter and his laptop, some repair shop found it.
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And you're making this one of the hottest, most important issues in the house.
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I don't know about the two gentlemen you mentioned.
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It's a very important issue to find out whether or not a man's corrupt who's running for president, who's accepted money from China and from Ukraine and from Russia.
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It's incredible the way you can try and say this and sit there and look me in the eye and say it.
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He accepted money, his family from Russia, from Ukraine, from China and from other places.
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His brother, who didn't have experience, became a big builder in Iraq with that experience.
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And you think it's the biggest issue to campaign on?
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I think it's one of the biggest scandals I've ever seen.
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Even the family hasn't, the family on the laptop, he's gone into hiding.
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I thought that was actually Trump's strongest moment when he went on the hunt about the laptop.
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But look, you have Donald Trump saying the media discredits itself.
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And you have Leslie Stahl talking about herself in the media and how she hates it.
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Again, journalists like to talk about themselves instead of talking about the news.
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Is the media more discredited or is the politician?
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Well, listen, most politicians are not that popular.
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And I think if any Americans or Canadians watch this exchange as we've been doing here,
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they'll see that you can't trust the media because they are not neutral.
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And I'm not talking about, I'm talking about, no, no, I'm not talking about, you're discrediting
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When you don't go after Biden, with the corruption in the Biden family, when you don't go after
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what happened in the Russia witch hunt, which turned out to be a total phony with no collusion,
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no collusion whatsoever, when you don't do that, you discredit yourself.
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The press, you know, is highly discredited right now.
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You know, it's hard to remember that this is supposed to be a journalist interviewing
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a candidate, because it feels more like two people quarreling.
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Because Leslie Stahl, in her mind, is an equal to the president.
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I'm sure she's equal to him morally and as a human.
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But when you're the interviewer asking questions of a candidate, what you have to say is not
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And you sparring with him and debating with him, imagine if she had taken, I think it
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was 37 minutes she had with him, just to ask him as many questions as she could ask and
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And then later on afterwards, she could pick it apart or say he was wrong there or wrong
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But imagine being so self-indulgent and vain that she wants to use this incredibly precious
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time with the busiest man in the world just to quarrel over nothing.
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If I ever had the opportunity to interview someone of such stature, even, and in fact,
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especially if they were on the other side, wouldn't I want to get maximum admissions from them
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And then later on, I could give my own opinions at great leisure.
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Why is it so important that she gives her opinion to his face?
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Well, because she's the star and this is her way to prove that she's going to tackle the
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Half the country loves you, but the other half doesn't.
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And I'm wondering why they were starting to unless when the economy was prior to the, just prior
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to the, you know, to the plague, they were starting to really like, we were all starting
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And do you think that you do anything to unify the country?
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What about the rabid partisanship in the country?
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I asked one of our team to go through the video and make a supercut, as we call it, of
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every single interruption of Leslie Stahl with Trump.
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And it would probably still be a two minute video.
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Just interrupt, interrupt, interrupt, and have a little counter at the top.
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You know, I'm just, the whole thing is so gross.
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And I can understand why at a half hour mark here in the full video, Trump's ready to get
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It's at this point that we realize that Vice President Mike Pence is right there watching
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I've been listening to you and it's just attack, attack, attack, attack, attack.
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I'm defending myself and I'm defending the institution of the president.
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I think this one is the most evil of all of her questions.
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As you may know, there was a plot against the Democrat governor of Michigan that Trump
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She's extremely heavy handed on the lockdowns in her state.
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Trump won it for the first time in a generation.
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And of course, this was hung around Trump's neck.
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But as you can see here, the plotters were actually anti-Trump activists.
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And in fact, an FBI agent whipped them up into it, which adds another layer.
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She implies that Trump is the reason these anti-Trump activists threaten the governor.
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And the people who love you, love you with passion.
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And if you go after somebody, what do you think you're going after her?
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It was our Justice Department that's helping her.
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I think the way she locked down Michigan is a disgrace.
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The way she closed churches in Michigan is a disgrace.
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Yeah, I think it's disgraceful what she's done.
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But I think the biggest disgrace there was Leslie Stahl.
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And I really don't want to tax you by watching too much more of this.
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But I think that Trump's made the point a hundred times here.
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Leslie Stahl is not a journalist, at least in this setting.
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I'm not saying in other times and other places with other subjects and other people.
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She hasn't done good journalism, even great journalism.
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60 Minutes has a reputation because over the last generation, they have done some great journalism.
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But I don't think anyone has done particularly great journalism about Donald Trump in the last four years.
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Every new week, there's a bombshell that turns out to be full of hot air.
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And every time the journalists say, oh, my God, he's going to be impeached over this.
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No, in fact, if anything, the Democrats are projecting what they do onto Trump.
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The New York Times, The Washington Post, CBS is 60 Minutes.
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They're nothing other than Democrats who have press cards.
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Well, look, with you, nothing I said would be any good to us.
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But in the meantime, we're having a record government.
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She says something, imputes it to him, hoping he'll accept the premise of the question.
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But he challenges and said, no, no, no, that's not true.
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He catches her in another lie and she moves on from it.
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She's done this about 10 times in the interview.
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So you don't want to lock up Governor Whitman, but you want to lock up the bodies.
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No, but why didn't you say you don't want to lock up the governor?
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Because you were in front of a rally of people saying it, encouraging it.
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Leslie, it's such a vicious thing you just said.
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No, I don't want to lock them up, but they certainly should be looked at.
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No, I don't want to lock them up, but he spied up my campaign.
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I feel like I'm watching an old couple quarrel.
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We've just shown a reporter enjoying her FaceTime with the president, most of which is
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unusable on 60 Minutes without some creative editing.
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Here is the absolute last clip, and you can tell that Mike Pence was supposed to sit in
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He finishes the interview on his own time, gets up and leaves, but not before telling Leslie
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You know, I didn't want to have that kind of angry.
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Well, then you brought up a lot of subjects that were inappropriately brought up.
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They were inappropriately brought up right from the beginning.
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No, your first question was, this is going to be tough questions.
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Well, when you set up the interview, your first statement was, excuse me, no, no, no.
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Your first statement to me, this is going to be tough questions.
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But when you set up the interview, you didn't say that.
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I saw your interview with Joe, the interview with Joe Biden.
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I see Joe Biden giving softball after softball.
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Your first statement was, are you ready for tough questions?
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I think we have five minutes until we have the vice president step in.
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I think we're ready for the vice president now.
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You know, I watched it twice myself and to go through it a third time with you, I wish
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I've seen a lawyer literally jump up to object to anything a witness says.
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MPs heckling or rising on spurious points of order so often just to interrupt the train of
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thought of their opponents, interrupt their momentum, their speeches.
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Trump figured out pretty quick it was a setup and he knew it would get a lot worse after
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the 60 Minutes editors there got through with it.
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60 Minutes viewers had more than half an hour with the president of the United States.
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But they literally learned nothing new from the time.
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I suppose that's the one thing the world learned.
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How abusive, unprofessional and partisan America's leading investigative journalist.
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We learned a little bit more about the media party.
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Yeah, that was the other debate that Trump had today.
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In retrospect, I regret showing you so much of that quarrel.
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I like showing you a Trump speech where he announces something new and interesting.
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A new policy in the Middle East, a new trade policy, opening up drilling in the Arctic or
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There's so much interesting things to talk about that Trump is doing to give 30 said to
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analyze 37 minutes of a quarrel between Trump and some liberal journalist actually isn't
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But we'll be back tomorrow with a full show and a full guest.
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And I thank you for going through what Trump goes through all day, every day, constant trench
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Everyone is bad faith and everyone projects onto him their own sins.
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How ironic it is that all this talk of Russia collusion for three years, which turned into
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Well, it's Hunter Biden who cashed the $3.5 million check from the wife of the mayor of
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Moscow, who's taken 180 grand a month for work on a Ukrainian gas company.
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We finally have the foreign collusion, a billion plus dollars from China, and all of a sudden
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Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,
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No, we are, we are, and the other side was coming in.
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And we, for some time, I mean, things were coming out in the last short period of time.
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So, we're rounding this number in the history of my fault, and I will go for all.