Two Ontario MPPs say Chinese-Canadian Doctor's “Wuhan Pneumonia” Sign Spreads Asian Hate
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A Chinese-Canadian doctor in the Chinese language uses the phrase Wuhan Pneumonia and a Chinese critic says it s racist. But the doctor s Chinese and the message isn t in Chinese, and the patients are Chinese. Who would be behind causing such strife? Well, I ll give you one guess: And yeah, it s the Chinese embassy.
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Hello, my rebels. A crazy case out of Ontario. A Chinese-Canadian doctor in the Chinese language
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uses the phrase Wuhan pneumonia, and a Chinese critic says it's racist. But the doctor's Chinese,
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and the message isn't in Chinese, and the patients are Chinese. Who would be behind causing such
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strife? Well, I'll give you one guess. And yeah, it's the Chinese embassy. I'll give you the details
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Tonight, are Canadian politicians running errands for Beijing's dictatorship here in Canada?
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It's April 29th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's
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Oh, here's a crazy story for you. Let me show you the headline.
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So just to be clear what's going on here, there is a doctor in Ontario who in Chinese, not even in
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English, so he's speaking to fellow Chinese Canadians, refers to COVID-19 as the Wuhan
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pneumonia, which is where it came from, and that is what it does to you.
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And yet Canadian politicians are telling this doctor not to say that. Let me read a little
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bit of this story. It's from the National Post. Two Toronto-based politicians are pressing a
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Chinese-Canadian doctor to remove a sign on his office door in Chinese that refers to COVID-19
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as the Wuhan pneumonia, complaining the wording could incite anti-Asian hatred. Let me stop you
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right there. If the only people who can read it are Chinese speakers, odds are they are
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ethnically Chinese. I mean, there are some Caucasian or non-Chinese people who speak Chinese,
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but if you're in a Chinese neighborhood going to a Chinese doctor whose door has Chinese writing,
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odds are you're Chinese too. What's the likelihood that that will whip you up into anti-Chinese fervor?
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You're probably Chinese yourself, and you're going to a Chinese doctor by choice. Does this make any
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sense? Here, I'll read a little more. The English part of the sign, which explained Dr. Kester-Kahn's
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office protocol during the pandemic, referred only to COVID. So who complained? Was it a patient?
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Get this. Vincent Key, a progressive conservative member of the provincial legislature with a history
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of ties to the Chinese government, said Kong may have made an innocent mistake, but it doesn't matter
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that the mention of Wuhan was in Chinese. So a politician came to stir up trouble, and this politician
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calls himself a progressive conservative. Then again, these days, anyone does, don't they? I mean,
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they even let Doug Ford and Aaron O'Toole call themselves conservatives. Let me read a bit more.
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Key had earlier posted about the issue in an anti-racism forum on the China-based WeChat social
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media site, saying that if the physician did not change the notice, he and fellow Tory MPP Aris Babikian
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would hold a news conference to publicize the issue. So just to understand, WeChat is an amazing app,
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but it's Chinese, and I don't mean ethnically Chinese or in the Chinese language. I mean,
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it is rooted in China, and it carries with it the Chinese government's values. It's an amazing app.
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It's like Facebook and Twitter and PayPal combined. It's an app that shows, though, that China is your
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center, not Canada. In Canada, you can use Facebook in Chinese. You can use Twitter in Chinese. When you're
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on WeChat, you're showing where your center of gravity is. Isn't it funny that this Canadian
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conservative would make threats about embarrassing this doctor in a Chinese WeChat app? I found that
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was very interesting. The National Post, to their credit, interviewed a pro-democracy critic of
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Communist China, a Chinese man himself named Chuck Kwan. Here's what Chuck Kwan said.
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This is the playbook of Chinese consulates in Canada. They are using this anti-Asian hate
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to rally the troops, win the hearts and minds of Chinese Canadians. As in, this is a non-issue.
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But these two MPPs, both of whom disgracefully seem to set their North Star by China, they're trying
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to whip this up, not because there's a real problem, but to alienate Chinese Canadians from
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Canada. It's sort of like a Black Lives Matter stoking division, except for this has been
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coordinated by the Chinese embassies and consulates. I'll read just a little more.
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Key and Babikian have repeatedly attended Confederation of Toronto Chinese Canadian organizations
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and related events alongside China's Toronto Consul General, including the celebrations in 2018 and
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19 of the 69th and 70th anniversary of the founding of People's Republic of China.
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So that's a pro-dictatorship lobby group. They were celebrating not the Chinese culture, language, food,
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history, heritage. It's all wonderful things. They were celebrating the communist regime at an event
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next to the Chinese diplomats here. How on earth is that even abided here? There's a lot going on here,
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Chinese meddling in our politics with the approval and passive support, I suppose, of the Conservative
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Party and the government, but also the fake whipping up of divisions amongst people in our society. It
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reminds me of the official approach taken by Theresa Tam and Justin Trudeau and others at the outset of
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the virus. You know, there were very early critics of the government who said, you've got to stop those
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flights from China. You've got to stop people flying here from Wuhan and other places and just going into
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schools. There was a petition made to the school board in the York regional district to have some
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sort of limits. And maybe if someone was coming right over from Wuhan that maybe they wear a mask or
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maybe don't go into class. And funny enough, those are the rules now a year later. But when that alarm
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was raised in a very modest way, it was called racist then too. Except for then, as in now, the people
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behind the petition were Chinese-Canadian families worried about what they had learned about the
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virus and Canada having its guard down. There's a lot of craziness here. Wokeism, taking offense where
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there is none, whipping up divisions between different races, stoking things for some headlines.
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I think the darkest part is this is being coordinated by the Chinese embassy and no one seems to care.
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Kudos on the National Post for even writing the story. I think this is only going to continue
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until we start to treat the Chinese embassy and its actions in Canada the same way we did during the
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Cold War towards the Soviet bloc embassies. Stay with us. More ahead.
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Statements by members. The Honourable Member for Hastings, Lennox Addington.
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Madam Speaker, lockdowns with no end in sight are being endorsed by federal leaders and are destroying
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our communities. The impact on Canadians' lives is severe. Ordinary people are being investigated by
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police for organizing peaceful protests against the lockdowns. Last week, I heard from a young
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business owner in my riding. She told me if things don't change soon, she will likely have to declare
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bankruptcy. The Liberal budget will be of no help to her. Others have confided to me that their
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children have had to be medicated to reduce suicidal thoughts. Tragically, the budget fails
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to address the surging youth mental health tsunami we are witnessing. Canadians look to their leaders
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for help, but instead their concerns appear to be falling on deaf ears. We can look south of the border
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to see many U.S. states have reopened and are better from an economic, social, and mental health
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perspective. It's time to recognize that quarantining to healthy helps no one and to end these draconian
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lockdowns once and for all. There you have it. Derek Sloan, independent MP, was elected as a
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conservative but was made to walk the plank in a bizarre moment by Erin O'Toole, who I note has fallen
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far down in the polls. The latest Ipsos polls. We'll have to do a story about that another day.
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Just shockingly low. 17 points back in Ontario, Erin O'Toole. Third place in Quebec and BC. I think
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part of it is his embrace of the carbon tax and part of it is his cancel culture approach to MPs like
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Derek Sloan, who joins us now via Skype. Derek, great to see you again.
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You know, I sometimes wonder, I look at the United States, there's 50 different states.
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There's, of course, a very lively Congress. And there's a range of opinions on the lockdowns.
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You have states like Texas, South Dakota, Florida that are very hands-free. Here's an image of
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the big UFC fight in Florida. Just a packed stadium. I don't see any masks there. You got that approach.
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And then you have your more lockdown states. But even California and New York are not as locked down
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as long as Canada. North of the border, no official party, either in government or opposition,
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is against lockdowns. You got lockdowns in conservative Alberta, Manitoba, Ontario, the
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federal opposition. Why is it that only independents like you and Randy Hillier, and I think I've just
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gone through the whole list now, are the only guys on the other side of this debate?
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Well, it basically comes down to just sheer cowardice. And you're right. We don't have to
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be the first, you know, province or country to open up. We have examples close to us that are
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faring well. The data is coming out. You know, we just had, we'll talk about this later, but I just
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was reviewing the results of an 80, a study that looked at 80 different studies by a Canadian
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professor. And he said that lockdowns are 282 times as harmful as their benefits. The data is out.
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It's a lack of courage, and frankly, cowardice on behalf of Canadian politicians.
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You know, a lot of people criticized Ron DeSantis, that's the governor of Florida,
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when he was one of the first to say, we're going to loosen up. And there was a moment there,
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I didn't know if he could lean into the wind, but he did. And he actually led other people to join him.
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So it wasn't just that he put his finger in the air, saw which way the wind was going. He made
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the wind go in a certain direction, just by relentlessly saying things like you just said that,
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like, he's a real master of the facts, more than most TV pundits or reporters are. I got to think
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that someone who had a reasonable, not radical, but just a thoughtful, common sense approach to
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lifting the lockdowns, I got to think not only would they do well, like Ron DeSantis is,
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but they would create sort of a new voter coalition. It wouldn't just be traditional conservative
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voters. It would be people, people who are just apolitical. They don't think left wing,
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right wing, they're just sick of this. And you'd probably have, you know, working class people who
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have been locked out of their jobs, mom and pop business. I'm just saying, you say people are
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afraid, I get it. But isn't there a big payoff for the, for the leaders who take a chance on this?
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Well, I think there is. And, you know, I think that there's, there's two different groups of people
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in this country. There's sort of the media party people, like the media elites and those that pay
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attention to them. And then there's average Canadians. And I think, unfortunately, too many
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political parties base their activities on whatever the CBC or the Globe and Mail has said,
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but they're really missing out on where the average person is. And more and more people are
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becoming disenfranchised. I mean, I saw a poll that says six out of 10 Canadians don't like any
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federal political party. There is an opportunity for, for a party or for a movement to capture
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that position. And I think you're totally right. Now, you're not just speaking, you know, in a
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figurative, sorry, in an abstract manner. I understand that recently you attended a church
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in Aylmer, Ontario, and that the police chief has announced that he intends to, to prosecute
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you, to give you a summons. Can you tell us what happened? What did you allegedly do? And what are
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you going to do about this summons? Well, I haven't been served with anything. I have read, as you have
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in the news, that apparently I seem to be one of several people that are being charged under the
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Reopening Ontario Act. So I, I intend, whatever I do get charged with, and again, this is, you know,
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a provincial offense. It's not a criminal charge. I intend to fight it. I know many people who have
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received tickets. The government is not, they're too afraid to fight these in court. They're, you know,
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throwing them down, they're, they're kicking the ball down the road because they don't want to
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actually have to go toe to toe with a real argument that addresses the, the charter or, or other
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arguments. So, um, they, they would rather just be able to give, you know, they would rather the fear
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factor be there. They don't want one case to be able to knock down their ability to keep the entire
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province under lock and key. Um, I, uh, so I was at the church service in Elmer. Uh, man, it was, I'll,
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I'll tell you, Ezra, um, you know, I've been to church before many times, but I have never, uh,
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been to this church, but, you know, to be, to be in that church with people who are,
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you know, doing what they think to be right. Uh, you know, the police were outside and everything.
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I have never seen a more positive and exciting service and it's available online. They stream
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it live. Wow. What a powerful sermon by, uh, by some very humble people that live there in Elmer.
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And, uh, I was, I was proud to be there. You know, that's exactly how I felt when I went to the
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Grace Life Church just outside Edmonton. And I'm not even Christian by the way, but I went there
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and I was just washed over by a feeling of normal. I just thought, geez, I forgot what it was like
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in the before times. And, uh, if I was in Edmonton, I would be going every week. I'll tell you that.
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Uh, let me ask you a few technical questions. Grace Life Church, uh, before they were expropriated
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and turned into a police garrison, took a very strong line against police, police coming onto the
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property or into the church during services. They simply said to police,
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you cannot interrupt our church service. And they knew that section 176.2 of the criminal code
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forbids anyone from disturbing, uh, a religious service. And so in the end, actually police raided
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it on a weekday at 6 a.m., I think, to avoid breaking that law. Can you tell me what was it
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like in Elmer? Do they let the cops on the property? Do they let the cops in the building? Because sometimes
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churches know their rights and sometimes they sort of get walked over.
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So the, the, at Elmer, they kind of have security at the road that, that, uh, that lets cars in or
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doesn't let other cars in. Uh, I don't know if the police tried to get in or not, but they basically
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just stayed out at the road. And, uh, I, I don't know if they were surveilling the scene or what they
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were doing, but they, uh, I don't know if they tried to enter, uh, but I didn't see them doing so.
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Well, then how would they know that you were there? I mean, I guess you could have mentioned
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it or tweeted about it, but how would they know what you would have done? How would they know
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enough to, to charge you? And of course I'm a former lawyer myself. I know that the standard
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for these men, I think, I don't know what charge you'll get, but it's typically beyond a reasonable
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doubt or it's a high standard. It's not like civil court where it's like balance of probabilities,
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50, 50 kind of thing. If they didn't, if they weren't in the church, how do they know what
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you did? How do they know where you stood? How do they know anything? I think this goes
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to your theory that maybe the whole thing is just a shock and awe to try and scare people.
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Like if they didn't actually see you do what you allegedly did, how could they send you a
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Well, the, uh, the service was live streamed and myself and another politician, Randy Hillier,
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uh, were invited up to the front along with the two, two others. So there is a picture floating
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around of me being at the front of that service. Uh, CBC picked it up. So I'm assuming that's where
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they're getting their info from, but I'm not sure.
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Yeah. And you know what, come to think of it, that's probably right. If you mentioned it was live
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streamed. Well, let me say one more thing, because you mentioned that you think that the authorities
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are going to kick the can down the road to avoid having a hearing on this. That's our
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experience. As you may know, we have a project called fight the fines.com. We've crowdfunded
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lawyers for almost a thousand people. And I don't think we've had a single trial, but I've just
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asked our team for a count. I think we're up to 20 wins without even a trial because the
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prosecutors look at the case and say, I'm not, I'm not running with this. And no one wants
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to be that test case because everyone says, well, these are likely unconstitutional.
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The size of them probably renders them unconstitutional too, like a $1,500 ticket.
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Um, the enforcement of them, if it's a church involved or other. So we, we represent close
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to 1000 people, but they will not let us have our day in court. Cause I think that I, I mean,
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I don't want to raise expectations or hopes, but there's a chance all 1000 people we represent
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will just be let to go free. Cause this whole thing was either to scare people off or just
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to see who's so afraid they'll pay the ticket just to get out of a pickle.
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Yeah, I, I agree with you. And you know, if they wanted to, if they really did think they
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were in the right and wanted to send a message, then why not dig in? I mean, but as you say,
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I have yet to meet someone who has disputed a ticket that has actually gotten their day
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in court. Yeah. Well, it's very interesting. Um, I, uh, I want to thank you for coming on
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the show. We, we played the clip of you in parliament. I'm glad you're still making
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representations as an MP. I know your website is Derek Sloan dot CA. And, uh, last time we
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spoke, I asked you if you were any clearer on your public plans. And I know that if you have
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a plan, you'll want to announce it in your own way. But, uh, can you tell me if your thinking
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has clarified yet on what you plan to do, given that you've been, uh, ousted from Aaron O'Toole's
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party? Well, I don't have anything further to report. I would recommend that people, uh, sign
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up for my email on my website. Uh, that will probably be the first place that I start to,
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uh, make clear my plans. Uh, but I'd be happy to come on again, uh, uh, when, uh, when those plans
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have, uh, crystallized and, and hash them out with you. Yeah. Well, make sure you do. I, I mean,
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I, I enjoyed having you come on the show when you were running for the leadership. I, I said to our
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viewers, and I think, you know, this, that I felt like you, uh, promoted true conservative ideas and
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you were respectful of the populist nature of conservatives in Canada. I think you were sort of
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a fan favorite and, uh, we were outraged at the injustice and the clear false, the false pretext
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with which you were given the heave ho by Aaron O'Toole, who I think is turning into a disastrous
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leader. So I think I speak for many of our viewers when I say we very much look forward to seeing what
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you do next and whether it's in the elected political arena or in some sort of NGO or action
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group. Um, you clearly are showing some courage on this pandemic issue. I look forward to you
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letting us know when you're ready to make that announcement. And I hope you'll come on our show,
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maybe even in a live stream to talk about it, because, uh, I tell you, it can't come soon enough.
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As I mentioned that America has its fighters, but in Canada, they're very few in numbers. So,
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so please do call us when you're ready for that. Absolutely. Thank you.
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All right. There you have it. His name is Derek Sloan is the MP for Hastings, Lennox and Addington.
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And you can go to his website and get on his email list at DerekSloan.ca. Stay with us more ahead.
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Hey, welcome back to my show last night. Loretta writes, the manner in which Trudeau speaks that Ezra
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was trying to describe, I refer to as his phony thespian voice. You're so right. He sort of looks
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in the camera and he over enunciates. I did not do that. And you can trust me. I almost always add
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ladies because I, you know, that's how he talks and things. Paul writes, there was a similar case
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here in Ottawa a little while ago, pre COVID when the mayor banned some of his critics might want to
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check the precedent set on that. I know that lawsuit. We read that lawsuit before we filed our lawsuit.
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That's what you're talking about, suing a government official who bans people from following them on
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Twitter. Look, I just think it's a really bad thing for government officials to start to treat
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the instruments of the state as personal weapons of war. I mean, I do not care and I am not interested
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in the personal Twitter feeds or Facebook feeds of politicians. I just don't care. But official
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government offices with the official government broadcast banning me, that's outrageous. And I think
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it's, it violates my rights in a number of ways. We'll see what the courts say. All right, my friends,
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thanks for joining us today until tomorrow. On behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,
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to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.