Vaccine passports are coming, aren’t they？
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Vaccination passports are coming to Canada, but is there any opposition to them? I'll take you through it, and explain why I'm opposed to them, and why I think it's a bad idea.
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Hello, my Rebels. You know, I got to tell you, I really think it's coming. I think that we are
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going to have vaccine passports. I see that New York State is already rolling them out,
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but they're being met with some opposition. We see some governors in other states saying never,
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never. But in Canada, is there actually any opposition to them? I'll take you through it,
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and I'll explain why I'm opposed to it. That's next. Before I get to that, let me invite you
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Tonight, vaccine passports are coming, aren't they? It's March 30th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Trudeau is good at posing for selfies and giving banal speeches that you forget the minute they're
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over. Hey, it's worked for him and probably will again in this year's federal election. But
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he's never actually done something. He hasn't run a business. He hasn't really held a job
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until becoming an MP. So negotiating for pandemic vaccines against every other country in the world
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pretty much was the most awful test of his abilities or lack thereof, wasn't it? I mean,
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the guy's first instinct was to sign a deal with a company that no one ever heard of called CanSino or
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CanSino, a Chinese vaccine maker associated with the People's Liberation Army. I don't think you
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needed to be a psychic to know how that was going to end. But you see my point? Normal political leaders,
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normal business leaders, normal health leaders would have thought, okay, who are the great
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pharmaceutical companies in the world? In the West? Probably. Because the West has excellent
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science, but also reliable corporate culture, reliable safety culture, etc. I'd probably include
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Japan in that. I wouldn't really want to take a China-made medicine for anything, would you? Although
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that said, we know that a lot of our own Western medicines are manufactured in China. But I wouldn't
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want something developed by them, certainly not by the Chinese army, would you? For the same reason,
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I'd probably skip the Russian vaccine too, but not Trudeau. He wanted the Chinese brand. That was the
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one he signed up for right away, even though at the time they had kidnapped two Canadian citizens
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and were banning our agriculture and generally waging a soft war against us. Now compare that to
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Donald Trump, who declared Operation Warp Speed to get vaccines manufactured, approved, developed at
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record time, something that the Brits did too, and the Europeans. So there's Pfizer and
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Moderna and AstraZeneca and others. I'm skeptical of any vaccine rushed to market. I'm skeptical of
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taking medicine for a disease that more than 99% of people recover from. But my main point is Trudeau had
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to out-compete everyone in the world, right? 200 countries or so. So he had to out-compete everyone from
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Trump to India's Modi to China's Xi Jinping to Boris Johnson. In a real world, real deliverables,
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can you get vaccines for the people who want them? So it's not, did you like the speech? It's,
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where's the vaccines? Trudeau hasn't, can't, won't, whatever. In the real world, all that matters are
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results, and he can't. Now there's two things to say about this. First of all, without vaccines,
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things have gotten better anyways. That's the good news. Without vaccines, the number of people
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in hospital in Ontario has fallen in about half just since January. And here's Quebec, the worst
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province for the virus, absolutely plunging if you look at the graph. Again, my point is it's doing
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that pretty much without vaccines because Trudeau didn't get any. Here's a chart generated from the
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data at Johns Hopkins University. Israel, which leads the world in percentage of population
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vaccinated, is pretty much exactly the same result as South Africa, which has vaccinated almost no one.
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Here's the reckless governor of California calling the governor of Texas reckless for lifting the mask
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laws and other lockdowns in Texas. Now that was about a month ago, that tweet. But here's the data
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from the New York Times on Texas cases pretty much gone. My point of showing you this data is the
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good news is nature is working. However, it's almost like the virus is just a really bad flu season,
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about triple the death toll of a normal flu season. And that's not good. But it's not Ebola. It's not
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the plague. It's nowhere near the top cause of death. In Ontario, the biggest province, not a single
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child has ever died from it. Not one, thank God. But of course, the public health deep state loves
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the lockdown. They love the spending. They love the power. They love the control. They love the
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distraction from other problems. They love the fear that will make people do whatever they want.
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They love the new flag of lockdownism, the mask. Here's Joe Biden telling states to force people to
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put masks on again. I'm reiterating my call for every governor, mayor, and local leader to maintain
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and reinstate the mask mandate. Please, this is not politics. Reinstate the mandate if you let it
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down. And business should require masks as well. The failure to take this virus seriously,
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precisely what got us in this mess in the first place, risks more cases and more deaths.
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Deaths. Look, as I do my part to accelerate the vaccine distribution and vaccinations,
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I need the American people to do their part as well. Mask up. Mask up. It's a patriotic duty.
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Yeah, no, it's just a symbol. I don't know why Aaron O'Toole is putting on a mask. You know he
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got the virus, right? And he got better from it. He's immune. So he's just putting on a mask as a
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symbol of his belief system. So first it was panic and lockdown. Then it was masks. Now it's vaccines.
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I mentioned Trudeau's screw up because he did manage to get his hands on a ton of AstraZeneca
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vaccines. But maybe there's a reason why. Here, take a look at this weird news. This is a little
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snapshot from the front page of today's Toronto Star, Canada's largest newspaper by circulation.
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One of Canada's countless public health boards now says you should not take the AstraZeneca vaccine
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if you're over 64, and you should not take it if you're under 55. That's just a pretty small
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bandwidth. So just 55 to 64-year-olds, just those people. It's too dangerous if you're under 54.
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It's too ineffective if you're over 65. I think that's what it is. Who knows? Maybe they'll tell
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something else tomorrow. Normally you don't hear this after. You've already given countless people
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the jab. But then again, normally vaccines aren't rushed to market in a matter of months,
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circumventing the regular tests. Here's a scoop from Gateway Pundit, one of my favorite U.S.
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investigative websites. It's the Center for Disease Control's count of people who have died from the
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vaccine, showing that it's greater in the last year than in the last decade combined. But hey,
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there's lots of money in it. I showed you a couple weeks ago how excited Pfizer is about not just one
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jab, but two jabs, and now adding a third jab. I mean, why sell only one when you can sell two,
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and why sell only two when you can sell three? Maybe there'll be a fourth jab, or onto two or three
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masks now. And so now we approach vaccine passports. Isn't that amazing? Compelling people to buy your
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product. They're coming. Absolutely they're coming. For about two minutes, Canadian politicians
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pretended they weren't coming. We want to encourage and motivate people to get vaccinated as quickly as
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possible. Getting as many people vaccinated as quickly as possible is the way to restore a
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semblance of normality in the coming months. And of course, we're going to make decisions
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step by step and look at all sorts of different ways both to encourage people to get vaccinated
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and keep people safe. The idea of certificates of vaccination for international travel
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exist already and are well established. There are countries in the world where you
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shouldn't go unless you can prove that you've been vaccinated against certain tropical diseases,
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for example. That's well established. But the idea of certificates of vaccination for domestic use,
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to decide who can go to a concert or who can go to a particular restaurant or engage in certain
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activities, does bring in questions of equity, questions of fairness. There are some people who,
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because of medical conditions or other reasons, will not be able to get vaccinated. There are others
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who are not on priority lists, who will have to wait much longer before getting vaccinations.
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These are things that we have to take into account so that, yes, we're looking to try and encourage
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everyone to get vaccinated as quickly as possible, but we're not discriminating and bringing in
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unfairness in the process at the same time. Yeah, but they just can't stay away. It's a whole new
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industry, a lot of money, a lot of contracts, a lot of control. It's a good way to keep paranoia up to
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pit us against each other. Snitches have already been bad enough. People who snitch on their neighbors
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for having grandma over to come visit, imagine now snitching on someone who hasn't had medicine.
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But you have to do it. You have to take a vaccine. They said to take AstraZeneca. Now they say that's
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too dangerous to do. They say to take Moderna and Pfizer. Those are those mRNA vaccines that actually
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interact with your body's genes. That's not generally called gene therapy. But, you know,
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sometimes it is called gene therapy. Maybe it's completely safe. Look, I don't know.
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We thought AstraZeneca was safe. I don't know. It's a new technology that works on your body.
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It's the kind of thing I'd like to wait a bit just to have it tested a bit more before we inject
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healthy people with it. I mean, what do I know, though? I mean, Bill Gates says it's just fine.
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One final way that's new and is promising is called the RNA vaccine. With RNA and DNA,
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instead of putting that shape in, you put instructions in the code to make that shape.
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I don't know. Here's a shot of Florida these days. They're doing better than lockdown states
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like California and New York. I showed you Texas and their graph. Here's Las Vegas. They're out in
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the sun. They're obviously feeling some peer pressure to go to the gym and get fit, get healthy,
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exercise well, eat well. I think they're a bit healthier than people in Canada who have been
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told to stay home, don't go out, don't go to the gym, don't go to the playground, just stay home,
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watch Netflix, and order fast food delivered to your house. How do you think? I'm getting extra fat.
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It's because, you know, if I was living in Vegas, look at that lifestyle there. Doesn't that make
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you want to get fit? I think we're becoming prisoners psychologically. We're already physically
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prisoners, especially in Quebec, with their curfew. How can a free people accept a curfew for so long?
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There's a disconnect, though. I keep seeing stories in the news about how few doctors and nurses and
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hospital workers are choosing to take the vaccine. Isn't that alarming? It would be like a chef who
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refuses to eat his own cooking. That would be odd. And yet you have our political class lining up to
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make it mandatory for the little people. But how would that work? How can you compel someone to take
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a medicine, especially medicine that is potentially dangerous or that we simply don't know enough about
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yet? How do you compel someone to do that, especially if they're not sick? Whatever happened to being
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pro-choice? Keep your laws off my body. Where did those people go? It's not just the forcing of the
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vaccine. It's what the vaccine surveillance apparatus will do to all of us, combine our
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social credit score with our medical reports, with our right to work and travel, and the rest of the
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modern panopticon, keeping track of everything about us, our bank records, etc. I'm somewhat worried
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about the vaccines. I really don't feel the need to take them myself. Plus, I'm not between the ages of
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55 and 64. But I'm deeply worried about a society that allows total surveillance and obedience at all
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times, permission to do everything. You have to ask for permission in advance or you can't do it
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anymore. Remember that summer jobs grant that you had to swear an attestation that you support Trudeau's
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views on abortion, for example, before you can get a summer jobs grant? If they have a total control
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over you through a vaccine app, of course they could use that for anything else they deem politically
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necessary. If you're having trouble with this idea, imagine if this vaccine passport were for any
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other disease. Let's pick a political disease, AIDS. People have a lot of views on AIDS. Where's your
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AIDS passport? Prove you're not sick. Prove you're not at risk. And then show the whole world, tell the
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whole world, any stranger, any shopkeeper, any politician, any policeman, show them that you don't
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have AIDS. Show them that you're not at risk. Tell the whole world about your health or don't live
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freely anymore. You know, you don't need to show ID to vote either in Canada or the United States. You
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know that? But now you need not just ID, but a passport to go around your own country. And not
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just a passport. Your private health information to go to your corner shop. Completely illegal without
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a passport. And yet the civil liberties groups are silent. I think they love it. Here's America's
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best governor. This is a story in the New York Post. I'm going to read the whole thing to you.
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Governor DeSantis vows to ban vaccine passports in Florida. I like this guy. Florida Governor Ron
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DeSantis on Monday vowed to take executive action to stop the use of so-called COVID-19 vaccine
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passports in the state. Quote, it's completely unacceptable for either the government or the
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private sector to impose upon you the requirement that you show proof of vaccine to just simply be
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able to participate in normal society, he said. You want the fox to guard the hen house? I mean,
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give me a break. The Republican governor added, I think this is something that has huge privacy
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implications. It is not necessary to do. DeSantis said the Sunshine State will have vaccinated a total
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of 3.5 million seniors or about 75 percent of them sometime this week. Quote, it's important to be
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able to do it, but at the same time, we are not going to have you provide proof of this just to be
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able to live your life normally, DeSantis said. He added, and I'm going to be taking some action in an
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executive function and emergency function here very shortly. DeSantis' comments come after it
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was revealed that the Biden administration is working on creating a set of standards for more
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than a dozen passports being created so Americans can prove they've been vaccinated against the
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coronavirus. New York is the first state in the U.S. to formally launch such an app.
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The program dubbed the Excelsior Pass is an app that allows New Yorkers to prove their vaccination
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status or a recent history of a negative COVID-19 test in order to gain entry to events and businesses.
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Major venues such as Madison Square Garden and the Times Union Center in Albany will begin using the
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app this week, and on April 2nd, Excelsior Pass will expand to smaller arts, entertainment, and event
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venues, Governor Andrew Cuomo's office has said. It's terrifying. Now, do you think it's just about
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health? Here's a tweet from Asha Regappa. She's a CNN commentator, but she's a former prosecutor.
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Listen to this. Don't want a vaccine passport? Fine. How about a tax for those who refuse to get
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vaccinated? Proportional to the additional costs and burdens they impose on society as a result of
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needing to have the freedom, in scare quotes, to spread the potentially COVID variant-infected
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aerosol everywhere. You know what? I see that kind of commentary everywhere, especially
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from prosecutors who are just salivating over using this as a weapon. The fact that we're
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actually debating these vaccine passports is shocking, but it shouldn't be. We've been
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conditioned for this. Two weeks to flatten the curve, they said, or two years, whatever.
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Stand six feet apart, or not if you're an important person on an airplane. Don't go outside. Don't go to
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the gym. Don't let your kids play sports, but professional athletes are exempt from that.
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Don't go to church. Go to Walmart. Empty the prisons. Put a pastor in prison. Don't wear masks.
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Then you must wear masks. Now you must wear two. And in Montreal, a curfew for every man and woman
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to be treated like a child. Still in effect today. And here we are a year later. Of course, vaccine
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passports are coming. At least in America, you have some conservative leaders pushing back.
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You've got 50 states. They have a fair bit of independence from the feds. You have Republicans
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in Washington fighting the idea, too. In Canada? Name me one politician who has said he's against
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it and who means it. Stay with us for a moment.
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Actually, I think I told you about my visits to Tommy Robinson when he was in Belmarsh Prison,
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in the UK. Basically, they're Guantanamo Bay. Some of the treatment reported by Pastor James Coates
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is similar to what solitary confinement in that British version of Guantanamo was like,
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at least the way he tells it. It's a terrifying story. Pastor Coates gave his last interview before
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he was sent to jail to Sheila Gunn-Reed of Rebel News. And he gave his first interview out of jail
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to Sheila Gunn-Reed. So let me show you this. About 20 minutes. It's worth watching. Here's Sheila
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talking to Pastor James Coates. Pastor James, first, how are you doing? Emotionally, spiritually? How are
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you doing? Yeah, that's a fantastic question. I am trying to figure out how I'm doing. I don't know
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that I've quite gotten my feet on the ground as yet. I think I'm still adjusting to just everything
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that's happened since my imprisonment and don't really have a clear handle on just what kind of
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world I'm stepping into at this point in time. I'm obviously out of the rhythm of my routine,
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and a big part of that routine is preaching. And so I look forward to that. It's been a blessing to be
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here and to reconnect with our people and express my love for them and to have them express their love
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for me. But I'm adjusting and I can't quite put my finger on what the adjustment is or why. I'm
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feeling it's an adjustment, but it's an adjustment. And I'm thankful to be out and I'm thankful to be
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here. And I'm looking forward to just putting one foot in front of the next and taking it one day at a
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time. Now, I don't want you to rehash or relive anything, but what was a day like for you behind
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bars? Did you have a cellmate? How often were you able to talk to Aaron? Without, you know,
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the gruesome, gory details, what was a day like? In quarantine, it was a challenge because I would
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get out twice for 15 minutes a day. I can remember one day, I think I told my wife that I had been in
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my cell for 23 hours between exercises. And when you get out, you got 15 minutes and that's not a
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long time. So that was a little bit of a challenge, but I was able to get through it and get into a bit
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of a groove. And initially, you're just trying to learn the culture that you're in. And there's a
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way that things happen and you're just trying to learn it. So you're up to speed and that takes
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some time. And so I could kind of be distracted a little bit just by that entire process. Once I
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got out of quarantine, I did have a cellmate and, you know, he was a good cellmate. We got along well
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and had lots of good discussions and conversations. And he's called me since I've been out already twice
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now. And so, you know, the morning begins around seven o'clock with breakfast. You go down to get
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breakfast, you have your breakfast, and then you return your trays. And then you're in your cell for
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a couple of hours, usually at least until nine, you might get out for an hour, typically got out for an
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hour ahead of lunchtime. And lunch was 11. And then you would get out once for an hour between lunch and
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supper. And then you would get out for another hour, typically between supper and bedtime. And for
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that hour, I would spend a lot of time on the phone for sure. I would call my wife a lot. That
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was obviously a highlight for me in the day. I loved those conversations. I'd have chaplains visit
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me from time to time. I could play a little bit of basketball on the court outside, which is basically
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just a cement cube with no roof. And, and just interact with the guys. It was, they were pretty good to me.
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They treated me well. Have a neat story about the final moment leaving that I can share with you if you'd like
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to know. But that gives you a little bit of a taste of a normal day.
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What was the worst part or the hardest thing to adjust to?
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That's a great question. I think adjusting to the diet was a bit challenging. It's not,
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it's not a comfortable place to be, obviously. Like I slept pretty, pretty well. But in terms of
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where you spend your time in your cell during the hours you're awake and not lying down, it's not
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really a comfortable place to just sit. And, and so it's difficult to be there and, and, and try and be
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productive, not feel like you can be productive, not be productive. And so that's a bit of a difficulty
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for sure. One of the, the blessings was receiving lots of mail and mail would come and I could read
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that and that would feel productive and it would encourage me and strengthen me. But I think just
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the lack of productivity and, and, and, and the diet being what it was and trying to make up,
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it took me a little while to figure out how to use the canteen effectively for me to be able to get
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the calories I need without, without eating food that's not doing me well. So the diet, the, the time
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in the cell being uncomfortable from a seated perspective. And, and there were moments when
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the tension in the prison, you could feel it, something would be going on and you'd feel just a bit
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of a tension among the, um, the, the inmates and that didn't last a long time or wasn't sort of
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consistent, but some of those moments were a little bit awkward. You'd feel the tension in the room and,
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and, um, I tried not to share that with my wife so as not to make her worry, but, uh, but for the most
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part and actually in large part, almost entirely, actually the, the inmates were great to me and I
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really appreciate them. Did you get a chance to minister to anyone on the inside? Because I think
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your incarceration was part of your ministry on the outside. Your church just blossomed even though
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you weren't here. Um, or at least that was my viewpoint spending every Sunday here while you
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were gone. Um, but did you get a chance to minister to somebody on the inside? Yeah. I mean, so once I got
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into GP, which is general public, I would have guys often come to my door and want to speak with me
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and would share difficulties in their life with me and I would share the gospel with them. I mean,
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we'd be talking through a door to each other. Um, but I would share the gospel with them. So that
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happened often where guys would just come to me. There was a gentleman next door to me and he wanted
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me to do a Bible study. So I went down to the floor. I was on tier three. And so we went to the floor
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where there's tables and sat down, he and I, within about 60 seconds, three or four of the guys sat
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down with us and, and, and there we are in the gospel of John having a Bible study. And, um, yeah,
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I had lots of opportunities to share the gospel. I didn't get a lot of opportunities with the guards
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because you're, you're at a bit of a distance away from the guards, but, but in terms of being able to
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speak to the guys in, in the remand, uh, lots of opportunities. And just to kind of show
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um, the affection that we had for each other in the moment that I was leaving, I turned around,
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uh, I was at the exit entrance to the whole pod. I turned around and I lifted up my hand to wave
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and, uh, and the doors of the, the, the pod began to shake as the men in their, in their cells just
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banged on their doors as a sign of, um, support, uh, love affection. And I was with the chaplain
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actually when that happened and he's emailed me since then and just shared with me that he'll
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never forget that moment. And it was precious to me as well. And so, um, that just gives you a
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little bit of a picture of the way that they thought toward me and treated me.
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Were you aware of just how big your story was while you were inside? I mean, Aaron was on
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Tucker Carlson. Were you aware of just the international interest in your story?
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I was, but, but trying to get your mind around that on the inside is difficult. So I, I certainly
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was aware, but even to this point now, I don't think I totally appreciate it. I don't think I'm,
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um, I'm grasping the significance and just how, how big this has gotten. And, uh, and so that's part
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of the adjustment, I think, is trying to figure out what am I stepping back into here? What, what's
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this, what's life going to look like now that this has happened? Will life ever be the same?
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Um, and so I'm just kind of taking it one day at a time on that.
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Now the police were here today. They wanted to come into the church.
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My question, I guess, is given that you've already been to jail for seven weeks and the police were here
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today. Would you do all of this all over again? Well, the answer is absolutely. Um, I couldn't do
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any different than I did. I was put in a position that demanded a certain response for me to be
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obedient to Christ. And, um, yeah, absolutely. I would do the exact same thing again in a heartbeat.
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I couldn't do any differently than I did. I've, I've honored my word and my integrity and my
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conscience. And more importantly, my Lord and savior, Jesus Christ, the entire time.
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Now I've heard some of the critics of Grace Life and probably yourself too, say that this is,
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you know, sort of a stunt for fame or glory or money. How would you address that criticism?
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So I understand that. I think, I think in our world, we are so used to people doing things for
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vain glory. We are not used to seeing men, women of conviction that will take a principled stand
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based on real conviction, tethered to reality as it is, because Jesus Christ is the King of Kings
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and Lord of Lords. And, uh, and so I, I get it. They don't know me. And so looking from afar,
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I can totally get it. I can totally understand it being suspicious, just being, just thinking
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something, uh, that this is suspect on my end. I get that, but, and I don't even know if I really
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care, to be honest with you. Um, this is not about what other people think. This is about the Lord
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Jesus Christ. And so I am here to please Him, honor Him, glorify Him. Where the chips fall thereafter
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is out of my hands. And, uh, and so I get it. I understand it, but they just don't know me and,
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um, don't know my heart and, and just can't understand what I'm doing because they've never
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Now, I know every week that I've been here, your congregation prays for the people who have
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participated in your incarceration. They pray for the RCMP officers. They pray for Alberta Health
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Services. Do you have a message for the people who are involved in your incarceration?
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You know, I, I'm wrestling with what that message is at this point in time. Um, to have the RCMP
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here today and wanting to come into the facility was, uh, was difficult for me. Um, it is disruptive.
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It affects my ability to carry out my responsibility to the Lord. You know, in some ways, being in jail
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wasn't much of a difference because I haven't been free for months. With AHS and the RCMP breathing
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down my neck for, for months, going into jail was actually reprieved from that. And so
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um, I'm thankful to be out of jail, but to be here today and to see them still wanting to enforce
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when this is in the court system, there's clearly a dispute. The dispute needs to play out.
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Let's let the dispute play out. Um, so I don't know what my message is. Obviously, I would want them
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to come to know Christ. I would want them to turn from their sin and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and
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be saved. I, I have a heart that is full of forgiveness to anyone who's wronged me. And so I,
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I harbor no unforgiveness toward anyone. And so I guess that would be it at the end of the day is I
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would just love for them to be reconciled to God through his son, the Lord Jesus Christ.
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Now pastor, you've been very generous with your time. And I know this is your first interview since
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you got out of jail. I want to ask you what your message would be to other pastors like yourself,
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their churches aren't open or they're complying with the Alberta health services code. And for that,
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they're turning away members of their congregation. Do you have a message for them?
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Well, that's difficult too, because, um, just because a building has the title church on it
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doesn't mean it's a true church. And to the extent that churches that aren't churches are closed,
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um, I can take some joy in that. I don't want false churches to be open.
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And so it's difficult. I mean, I would need to speak with each individual pastor, understand their
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context, their situation, what they're going through in particular. It's the men that I'm in
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fellowship with, the men that I know are preachers of the gospel who are approaching the pandemic
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differently. I don't know that I have a message for them, but I would love to interact with them
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and see if I can't help them to see things a little bit differently in terms of what we're going
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through and where we're at and what, what the, the, the right response ought to be. But I recognize
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that we're going to see things differently at times and that's okay. And, uh, it's not a matter
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to, to, to break fellowship over with those men. I love them and, um, and, and support them.
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So it's difficult. I don't think there's a one size fits all message in this situation.
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Um, and so hopefully that gives some sense of what my mind and heart would be toward that.
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Lastly, do you have a message for people around the world who supported you, supported Grace Life,
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Um, just immensely grateful, received so many letters, um, emails, the support that's poured
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in is just, uh, overwhelming. And so I'm just, I'm thankful for the prayers, the well wishes,
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everything that has come to us in this time. Um, I want to be, uh, faithful to the Lord and to the
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extent that that blesses others. I take a immense joy in that. I really live for, for two reasons,
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one to see people saved and two, to see them sanctified. And so to hear that the Lord has
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been using what's happening in my life to strengthen them and cause their spiritual growth
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and development is just, um, makes everything worth it in terms of the sacrifice. It's been to me
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personally and my wife and our church. And so, uh, I just, uh, a huge hearty thank you, express my love
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and gratitude to you and, and, and pray for me that I'll continue to be faithful and, and give you an
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example worthy of imitation. Thank you, Pastor Coates. Thank you. Well, great work by Sheila.
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She's really earned the trust of a lot of people who, you know, I should tell you that no other media
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were allowed on the property because they didn't come to report. They came to stab and defame and
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besmirch. Sheila earned the trust as she has with so many small businesses around Alberta. And we're doing
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more and more fight the fines work, as you know, to learn about the cases we're defending, go to
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fightthefines.com. That's our show for, for today. Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at
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Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, goodbye. Keep fighting for freedom.