We need “sanctuary cities” that ignore lockdown laws
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In this episode of the Ezra LeVant Show, Ezra talks about a new kind of sanctuary city: a town that has declared itself a get-out-of-your-house sanctuary city, and why you should be mad at them.
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Hello, my friends. Have you heard of a sanctuary city? Of course you have. It's usually used by
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the left to say they're just not going to obey immigration laws. Well, how about a sanctuary
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city for the right? A place where conservatives said, you know, I'm just not going to stay home
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anymore. I'm not going to follow your house arrest anymore. I've got a story of a town that has
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declared itself a get-out-of-your-house sanctuary city. You'll be interested to hear about that.
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Tonight, you've heard of sanctuary cities where they don't apply immigration laws.
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How about a sanctuary city that ignored lockdown laws? It's May 19th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government, the wire publisher, is because it's my bloody right to do so.
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Sanctuary cities, what a crafty, cunning name. Sanctuary comes from the Latin word for holy,
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as if there's anything holy or moral about allowing criminals to break the law with impunity.
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You know, I've done some reading about the biblical concept of a city of refuge.
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Those were the original sanctuary cities 2,000-plus years ago. And they were not for murderers. They
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were for people who accidentally committed manslaughter. Accidentally. They had to confess
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what they did. They had to go through a trial of sorts to make sure they weren't truly immoral
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murderers. And they had to atone. It wasn't a get-out-of-jail-free card. And it wasn't for morally
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guilty people. It was for mercy and repentance. How different from today's sanctuary cities.
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I hate even saying that word to describe them. Sanctuary cities. Here's a typical case.
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A beautiful, young, law-abiding, innocent citizen, Kate Steinle, murdered with an illegal gun
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by an illegal immigrant to California, a serial criminal who had been deported five times before.
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He was literally playing some weird game of Russian roulette, firing his gun randomly,
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seeing who he'd kill. But because it was a sanctuary city, an official policy,
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they didn't warn the public about his release. They didn't hand him over to immigration officials
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to deport him. And incredibly, he was acquitted of the murder of Kate Steinle, even though he
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committed the ultimate liberal sin of using an unregistered gun. But he was an illegal immigrant.
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So it's fine, you see. Sanctuary city. Sorry, that is not holy. That's not what the Bible said to do.
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Look at this buffoon, the mayor of Philadelphia.
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I'm so angry with that, but it's not only an American phenomenon, it's in Canada too. Really,
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the chief proponent is Justin Trudeau. It was his homemade tweet sent to the world back in 2017
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that invited the world to illegally walk across the border at Roxham Road between New York State
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and Quebec and just stay. There's a great big sign that says illegal at the border, but hey,
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no fence and the police won't arrest you. In fact, they'll carry your luggage for you,
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even during the time of the coronavirus. Remember what Kian Bexty found when he went there last month?
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Do you guys realize you're jeopardizing the health and safety of every Canadian
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by not screening these illegal immigrants for coronavirus? Do you even care?
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The police have become bellhops, I kid you not. So yeah, when the prime minister of a country tells
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you you don't have to follow the law of the country, it's not honorable. It's not what the Bible said a
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sanctuary city was. It's lawlessness. It's a form of immorality. Either the law is valid or it's not.
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Either the law is moral if it's not. Either it ought to be enforced or it should be changed.
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That's the greatest problem with any sanctuary city, not the particular harm it overlooks,
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but the general harm. That it sends the message that laws are only for certain people to follow,
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not others. That it depends on who you are, depends on who you know, depends on the politicians of the
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day. So for example, when the RCMP just stood by and let environmental extremists try to derail trains
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just a few months ago, that's immoral. It's dangerous. It's a war on business and jobs,
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but it shows that the law doesn't mean anything if you're the right political stripe in Trudeau's eyes.
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We see a lot of that typically in left-wing big cities when they set up hard drug zones.
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No enforcing of drug laws, actually supplying criminals with hard drugs. So yeah,
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sanctuary cities, they're awful. They're dangerous. They are in no way the cities of repentance
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contemplated in the cities of refuge in biblical times, but they exist. How about now? Normally it's
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left-wing cities that want to scoff at laws, especially enforcing immigration, but how about
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now in the pandemic, I mean? What about places now that want to, you know, go back to work? So sort of
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the opposite from left-wing cities, I'm talking about probably more conservative people that
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realized the pandemic panic was overblown and it's okay and safe to go back to work, even though all
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the professional scolds and worriers had just got comfortable in their positions of power.
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This is the official curve, as they say. This is not a model. This is actually what has happened
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over the last few months. So it's done. It was a wave. It came and it went. Lucky for us, it didn't
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capsize any Canadian hospitals. I think everyone was worried. We were told to stay at home for two
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weeks while the wave crested. Well, it's been two months and it's pretty much over. I saw this just
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last night, Saskatchewan. You know how bad the virus is there? Well, it's not bad. Not at all. There are
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literally five people in the entire province who were sick enough to go to the hospital. Five!
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Now, it's a province of nearly 1.2 million people, but a grand total of six people, total, total,
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have died over the past two months. I'm sorry to hear about those six people who have passed away.
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I'm sure they were loved and are missed. Six people passed away, five in hospital.
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You know, by contrast, on any given year, you might have 100 people in Saskatchewan dying on the roads
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and highways from accidents. It's not a perfect comparison. An accident in a car isn't viral or
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infectious. But then again, the Wuhan virus hasn't been particularly infectious in Saskatchewan either.
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And of course, a bad driver can kill you. So why are they on lockdown? Five people in the hospital?
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Five people in the whole province. That means literally 99.9995% of Saskatchewanians are fine.
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So why are they locked up? As it so happens, a number of industries are being allowed to open
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today in Saskatchewan. Some retail stores, some shopping malls, some barbers. Boy, I'd like a barber.
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They're open today, so that's good. But other things remain closed, and there are no dates for opening them.
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Gyms, for example. Not that I would ever darken a doorstep. Now, I'm not picking on Saskatchewan.
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The opposite. It's actually one of the fastest reopeners. I can just tell that Ontario is going to be the
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slowest just today. They announced that they're not opening schools for the rest of the year.
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Oh, thanks, for the rest of the school year. But back to the sanctuary city idea.
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Let's say you have an out-of-control public health elite, unelected, just loves the fact that
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they're famous now. They're on TV now. They're calling the shots now, even though they didn't
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have to win an election. And of course, they're all getting paid. Show me someone who supports
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the lockdown today in mid-May, and I'll show you someone who is getting paid no matter what.
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Whereas gym owners, estheticians, tattoo parlors, these are the kind of thing that are still
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banned in Saskatchewan. And of course, restaurants are severely limited, too. Well, they're not deemed
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essential, you see, unlike politicians and bureaucrats. Except, of course, to the people
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who want to go there or the people who work there for a living, pretty essential to them. I would
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take a barber right now over any given bureaucrat. Look at this. Look at this, though. Isn't this
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interesting? Atwater declares itself sanctuary city for business, allows owners to open. Non-profit
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organizations such as churches are also allowed to reopen under the new resolution. Let me read a
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bit. Atwater, California. The city of Atwater has declared itself a sanctuary city for all businesses,
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allowing owners to open despite the state of California's stay-at-home order amid the coronavirus
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pandemic. The Atwater City Council voted on the resolution on Friday afternoon, saying it,
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quote, affirms the city's commitment to fundamental constitutional rights. This is America. You have
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the choice. It's time for the government to stop dictating another month, another three months, six
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months. Said Atwater Mayor Paul Creighton, when is it going to end? When everyone is bankrupt?
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Non-profit organizations such as churches are also allowed to reopen under the new resolution.
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That's how you do it. Remember we were all told, just flatten the curve and we're good.
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Just two weeks. The curve is flat. Don't change the rules on us. So that's California, one town
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rebelling against a power-mad governor. Across the country in New Jersey, a local gym just decided
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they're done. They're done waiting. They're done watching their business die and done watching their
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customers go unserved. So they just declared they're going to open up no matter what the governor
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says. And look at what happened. Big crowd and the police showed up and then look.
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We are and we're only here for everybody's safety today. We plan for the worst, hope for
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the best, and it seems like that's what we have out here today.
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So boys, you are all in violation of the executive order. On that note, on that note, have a good
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Isn't that interesting? It'll be interesting to see what happens in
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Canada. Are we passive or will we stand up too? You got to love those Americans chanting,
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USA, USA. Would anyone here chant, Canada, Canada, if we had a moment of freedom resisting
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a politician like that? I regret to say that's just not us. We're much more submissive. And if
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we did something free or freeing, I don't think that the word Canada would be the natural cry since
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we're not as closely allied with freedom as our American friends. I say that with great sorrow.
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But I know this. There are traffic jams in Toronto again. Not big ones, but irritating
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ones nonetheless. People are going out and about again. I see some people with masks, but
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plenty without them. Kids are having playdates again. People are getting tired of being prisoners
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in their own home. Not that politicians ever followed those rules themselves. They're not
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even hiding it anymore. They're going out. I like the idea of a sanctuary city for people
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who want to work, who realize that there is very modest danger and that we know where the danger
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is. And it isn't if you're under 40. You just aren't in danger if you're under 40. Full stop.
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If you're over 70, you have some risk. If you're over 80, you have more risk. But it's not even your
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age that puts you at risk. It's whether or not you're trapped in an institutional senior's home.
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That's where 82% of Canadian deaths have happened, whether it's super spreaders who work there or bad
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hygiene or a nursing home policy favoring euthanasia and non-resuscitation. Quebec is
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especially, they're the worst about assisted suicide. They're very pro-euthanasia. I wouldn't
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be surprised if we one day found out. That's why their numbers are so disproportionately large,
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But for the rest of us who don't live in old folks' homes who are under 70, we choose life.
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We want to live. Maybe we could have some sanctuary for that. Stay with us for more.
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Welcome back. Well, last night, a stunning, scorching four-page letter from U.S. President
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Donald Trump to the World Health Organization laying out in meticulous detail the case against
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the WHO, especially how it seems to have covered up and run errands for the Chinese Communist Party.
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Just a devastating blow and so contrary to Canada's obedient submissiveness to the WHO.
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Well, while diplomats and bureaucrats across the West discuss that document,
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China has taken the opportunity to do what looks a little bit like an old-fashioned banana republic coup.
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Take a look at this footage the other day from Hong Kong's Legislative Council. This is
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where the roots of democracy in Hong Kong are. Looks like a coup to me. Take a look.
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Well, that looks like something you would see in a South American banana republic coup by some generalissimo,
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if I understand it correctly. The pro-Beijing legislators demanded to chair the committee,
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and they had a ring of guards around them, banana republic-style, hauling out democracy candidates.
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Just incredible to behold. But there's one man who can help us make sense of this,
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a man who has been tweeted about directly by Donald Trump. I'm talking about our friend Gordon G. Chang.
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You can follow him on Twitter at Gordon G. Chang. Gordon, great to see you again.
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What do you make of what we saw from the Legislative Council in Hong Kong?
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Am I accurate to describe it as a coup, or is it something more or less than that?
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Well, it certainly looks like a coup. This was the House Committee meeting.
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House Committee is important because it sets the rules for the Legislative Council,
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which is the legislature for Hong Kong. And essentially what Beijing authorities were doing
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was ejecting pro-democracy legislators. This has been part of a two-month or so effort on the
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part of Beijing to take direct control of Hong Kong. So, for instance, Chinese authorities have
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attacked the legal justification for the One Country, Two Systems formula, which provides autonomy.
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They've tried to reduce the power of the district councils, which are firmly in the hands of
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pro-democracy leaders. They've arrested 15 senior pro-democracy figures. The police have been engaging
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in more thuggish tactics. And it appears that they actually may try to enact Article 23, or security
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legislation, in Beijing at the National People's Congress meeting, which is upcoming in the next few
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days. So this is a real broad-based attack on Hong Kong autonomy. And the world needs to stand with
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the people of Hong Kong at this moment. Yeah. Well, it's very interesting, the war of words
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between Washington and Beijing. Of course, what we saw there from the Legislative Council itself was
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much more than words. I see, for example, Secretary Pompeo in the last 24 hours has sent greetings
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to the president of Taiwan on her inauguration, using the word Taiwan, not Chinese Taipei, as the Chinese
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like to do. And I saw Secretary Pompeo also referred to Tibet in the form of the Tibetan Panshan Lama,
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a religious figure who was kidnapped, really, by the Chinese government 25 years ago. These are
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sensitive subjects to Beijing. Help us understand what Secretary Pompeo is doing by speaking so strongly
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about these symbolic human rights issues. Well, the Secretary of State knows that China is
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extraordinarily sensitive about human rights violations. And they're especially sensitive
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when American officials speak directly to the Chinese people, which is, you know, we heard last week,
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Deputy National Security Advisor Matt Pottinger talk in Mandarin about the May 4th movement.
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So, you know, these are important moves on the part of the U.S. to tell China, look,
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we're just no longer buying it. And, you know, the Panshan Lama is a particularly disgusting event
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where China kidnapped a six-year-old who was, of course, then called the youngest political prisoner
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in the world for good reason. So what we're seeing is a brand new attitude on the part of the United States,
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Now, I follow a lot of Chinese propaganda channels, not because I'm persuaded by it,
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but because I want to know what China is saying. And I think you can sort of work backwards to get to
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what they're thinking. And one of the English language propaganda arms I follow is called Global
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Times, which has a real foreign policy flair to it, as you can imagine. In recent days,
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they've been talking about China beefing up its nuclear arsenal. They've been talking about invading
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the island of Taiwan. Like, it's such extreme language, so bellicose. I never, I mean, I was just
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young during the Cold War, but I never recalled anything so belligerent from Pravda or Izvestia.
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Is this just local propagandists trying to impress Beijing or blowing off steam? Or is this trying to
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send a real message to the West that China will go to war if it wants to?
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I think this is message sending to the outside world, because Global Times, especially when it
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writes in English, is trying to propagate narratives around the world. You know, Global Times is used to
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signal what Chinese leaders are thinking. And, you know, what you've talked about, Ezra,
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this is just symptoms of what, in Beijing, they call wolf warrior diplomacy. China,
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especially since the middle of February, has gone on a bender. We've seen boat bumping and other
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incidents in the East China Sea and South China Sea against Japan, Taiwan, the Philippines, Vietnam,
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Indonesia, Malaysia. We have seen China's ambassador to Kazakhstan saying that Kazakhstan should be a part
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of China. The China's ambassador to Paris talked inappropriately about domestic French matters.
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This is really a new phase of aggression, belligerence, provocation. And we've got to be
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really concerned that something is really wrong inside of Beijing, because they could trigger
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history's next war. Wow. You know, it's been some years since I visited Taiwan. And it was so evident to me
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that the risk to Taiwan, and I'm speaking as a layman and an amateur, Gordon, so you correct me if I'm wrong.
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The risk was not the stick. It was the carrot. It was saying, hey, Taiwan, you're 23 million people.
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Here's 1.4 billion customers. You speak the language. Get rich off China. And like the NBA and like Hollywood
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are doing, just stop talking about human rights and democracy and get rich. So that was the carrot.
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And it seemed that the carrot was really working. This stick approach, part of me thinks it's going
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to backfire that China can get more with influence and cash and markets than through this kind of
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gnarly, you know, growling and teeth bearing. What do you think? Do you think that China's new wolf
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warrior diplomacy is winning converts abroad? Or is it just, I mean, I can't, I can't imagine people are
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saying, oh, I like this new bellicose China, or maybe people are. No, you know, you're absolutely
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right. China's losing friends around the world, and it's losing them fast. And a lot of people inside
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of Beijing know that. But I think this is being directed from the very top, from Xi Jinping.
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And so nobody, at least at this moment, is really complaining about this in public. And this is a real
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indication that China has gone really on a counterproductive bender. So we've got to be
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concerned, because when countries act against their own interests, it means something is wrong inside the
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political system. And that's exactly what's occurring right now from all we can tell.
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You know, here in Canada, a major pollster named Angus Reid did a very deep study on Canadian opinions
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about China. And it is the lowest ever. I mean, depending on what question is asked, like
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Huawei and 5G networks, or should we increase trade with China, the numbers are as low as 11%,
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depending on how the question is phrased. And that's despite our Canadian government in the form
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of Trudeau and his cabinet being very obsequious to China. Are you aware of any opinion data in America
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or around the world that shows grassroots citizens turning against China, especially places like
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Africa, where China has tried to sort of dominate in the great game? Do you know how the, do you have
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any data? I mean, in Canada, it was a real eye-opener. I haven't seen other polls like that. Have you?
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Well, the Pew Research does this polling yearly. And their most recent results, which came out,
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oh, I'd like to say about three weeks ago, showed significant drop in support for China in the
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United States. And that was mirrored around the world. And that's largely because of coronavirus,
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but also because of this new, very hostile diplomacy on the part of Beijing. And in Africa,
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I think that what's happening is there's a feeling that corrupt elites there took on debt that these
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countries couldn't pay. And over the next 12 months, we're going to see China have to renegotiate
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many of these built-in road loans. So this debt trap diplomacy is not working out for Beijing in a
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number of these countries. So, you know, China is really suffering setbacks around the world in its
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image and its standing. Let me ask you one last question. I'm so grateful for your time.
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And I don't want to keep you. And by the way, folks, if you're not following Gordon on Twitter,
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you really must. I mean, look at this tweet from President Trump, who was watching Gordon on TV
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during the height of the crisis. So obviously, we're not the only people who take advice from
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Gordon Chang. Even the president does. Follow him at Gordon G. Chang on Twitter. He's one of the people
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I absolutely don't miss because I know I got to know what's going on. Let me ask you a question,
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Gordon, and then we'll let you go because I know you got other things. During the 1980s,
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Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, and Pope John Paul II not only spoke out against the Soviet Union,
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but they actually quietly helped reform movements on the ground like Poland's Solidarnosc Trade Union.
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They gave verbal support, but they gave some technical support too. Is there anything the West could or
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should or even is doing to support alternative voices, especially amongst Chinese people, not
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white folks, not foreign folks? But is there anyone like Alekh Walens'a that the West could help to have a
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better future for China, more democratic, less belligerent? Do you have any ideas on that?
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Well, right now, the world has much less of visibility into China than it once did,
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and certainly less than Reagan and Thatcher had into Eastern Europe. The one thing the U.S. has been
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doing, hasn't been putting that much in the way of resources, but is trying to puncture through the
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Great Firewall, which is the most sophisticated and strictest set of internet controls. The U.S.
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can do a lot more about that. And especially once it gets through the Great Firewall, it can then talk
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to the Chinese people in a much more robust way than we do now. But right now, you know, there's a lot
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on our list of things to do. And talking to the Chinese people should be much higher than it is.
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Yeah. You know, I know some people who came to the West from Poland, and they talked about how those
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broadcasts of freedom that they would sometimes get in Warsaw when they could find the right frequency
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gave them tremendous hope. Even prisoners in Siberia, like Anatoly Sharansky, when he read Ronald Reagan
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in Pravda denouncing the Soviet Union as the evil empire, even though it was surrounded by all sorts of
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communist denunciations, he said that gave him great hope, even in prison, because he saw, ah, someone in the
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West understands the nature of the Soviet Union. I hope that Donald Trump and America and other pro-democracy
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allies around the world take your advice, Gordon. And we need to find allies in Chinese culture, in the
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Chinese language, in China itself. That's my view, at least. It's great to see you, my friend. I hate to let you go
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because I have so many other questions for you, but I know you're in high demand. Thanks for spending
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some time with us, my friend. Oh, thank you so much, Ezra. And just by the way, this evil empire
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comment, people in the Soviet Union said, yeah, of course we knew that the Soviet system was evil.
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It just was a revelation that other people thought so as well. So when Ronald Reagan said evil empire,
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it really shook the Soviet Union. Yeah, yeah, you're so right. Just simply speaking truth to power,
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I think you're right. All right, take care. And there you have it, Gordon G. Chang. Great to see
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you as always. Thanks, Ezra. All right, stay with us. More ahead on The Rebel.
00:28:06.780
Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about the state of rebel news during the coronavirus
00:28:10.560
pandemic. Paul writes, great to see things are going well. We need rebel news. We absolutely do
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not want a Chinese-style government here. I wonder how long the U.S. will sit back while the Chinese
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colony is being set up on their border. Well, as Gordon Chang said today, a public opinion around
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the world is tanking for China. I have shown you Pew research numbers on China in the past. I didn't
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know they had new numbers out. That's news to me from Gordon G. Chang, so I'll check that out,
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and I'll probably do a show on that. Barry writes, raise your subscription rate. I would pay $12 a month.
00:28:43.380
Well, thank you very much. I don't know what the optimal rate is because, of course, I want a lot
00:28:51.720
of people to see it, and maybe $4 a month difference is not a big deal to you. It might be for someone
00:28:57.660
else. We have to think of what competitors are. I mean, how much does it cost to get Netflix or
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Disney Plus or any of the streaming services a month? $8 a month I feel okay with. I mean,
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I don't really want to increase the rate. I'd rather increase the number of viewers. You know
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what I mean? On my interview with Manny Montenegrino, Lou writes, it's worth considering that Trudeau's
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liberal government is uncritical of the Chinese Communist Party because they have bought influence
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by funding the Trudeau Foundation. Well, I mean, that's not even in dispute. We know that a lot of
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liberal-affiliated organizations, Canada 2020, the Trudeau Foundation take big bucks from Chinese
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billionaires, Chinese politicians, Huawei. Huawei even sponsors Hockey Night in Canada. So Don
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Cherry is not acceptable, but Huawei is apparently. Yeah, I mean, it goes really deep. I mean, I was
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just looking at some math today. The University of British Columbia alone, one institution, gets about
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a quarter billion dollars a year from China in various ways, including through Chinese nationals
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as foreign students. A quarter billion dollars a year for UBC. Of course they're going to be in the
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tank for Beijing. That's not an ethnic comment. That's a political comment. If you had, during the
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height of the Cold War, you know, 6,000 Soviet students at U of T, you wouldn't be surprised if
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U of T was a hotbed for communism. Well, that's our show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all
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of us here at Rebel World headquarters, to you at home, good night. Keep fighting for freedom.