“We Need to Save the Republic Soon”： InfoWars' Owen Shroyer
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In this episode of Bannedvideo, host Alex Blumberg sits down with a man who has been banned from social media for his views on the Trump impeachment process. They discuss what it's like being targeted by the mainstream media and how it's affected his life.
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You're listening to InfoWars.com and Banned.video.
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You can also follow him on Gab at All I Do Is A Win.
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Of course, Owen is famously banned from all of mainstream media.
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Social media, mentioning him in a positive light on those platforms,
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will result in a ban on most of those Facebook and Instagram.
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and then you should be in the clear for at least half an hour.
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How does it feel, by the way, to basically be depersoned like that?
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I mean, I know you guys predicted a lot of that was going to happen,
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but can you really prepare for something like that?
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I mean, one of the common things that happened,
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They're always saying, I need this Facebook post.
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The bigger thing is, like, not having that platform,
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especially once you're used to having that platform,
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For others, even if it's small, it's still there.
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That's kind of like the more strange thing to it,
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But quite frankly, it's almost, in a way, been a blessing.
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I think it's probably more healthy for my mental health
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and worrying about all the stuff that goes on there.
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And also, because we were kind of on the first wave of the ban,
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that kind of prepared us, I think, for this new era of censorship
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so that we built our own platforms like Band.Video,
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and we weren't reliant on the big tech platforms
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And then by the time they get their deplatforming,
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and, you know, get your thoughts on how they stand with you now.
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And get your thoughts on how this reflects on politics in 2021.
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Another Trump supporter receives second-class citizen treatment.
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Another conservative receives second-class citizen treatment.
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They're claiming that Trump's impeachment is for Ukrainian quid pro quo.
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who advanced the articles of impeachment to the Senate,
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admitted that they started this inquiry before Trump was even president.
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So how can they impeach Trump for something he did as president?
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They'll deny the reality that Nancy Pelosi admitted
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that they started the impeachment process before Trump became president.
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So you got arrested for basically a silent protest just a day after a whole demonstration.
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Well, we were there, as you said, the day before.
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This is at the U.S. Capitol building in January of 2020.
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And this was actually a month after I was arrested for being in the impeachment hearings
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In fact, I mean, I was warned that I would be arrested that day.
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And they did, of course, come after me and arrest me.
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But because the day before, as you said, there was a large impeachment display or we'll say
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I guess they weren't classifying it as a protest, but it was about 30, 40 people.
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They were standing in a line so that you could read the message.
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And I came up that day and I simply said, oh, well, I'll go interview these people.
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And of course, none of them could answer the question.
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They're out there protesting, but can't answer a single question as to why.
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And so then they dispersed and they all kind of went in their direction.
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And then they got a private tour of the Capitol.
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They get a private tour of the Capitol after their impeachment display that they had going
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So I showed up the next day and I said, well, I'll do my own demonstration, a one-man silent
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I even had tape over my mouth that said censored on it.
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And the Capitol Police came down and arrested me and say that it was an illegal demonstration.
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And after that all happened, I mean, how did, did you reflect on any of the media coverage?
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I remember watching at that time, it's just a protester arrested at the Capitol.
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They know who you are, but they don't want to say it.
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Is there anything to be said about how the media covered, covers something like that in
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You know, honestly, other than InfoWars, I'm not even sure who did cover it because I was
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And then I immediately had to get out of jail and be to an airport within an hour and a
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And then by the time I got home, so I don't, I didn't even see any media coverage of it.
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Nobody ever reached out for comment or anything like that.
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So, so yeah, I mean, it was such a long process for me just to get my feet back on the ground
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after that, that I didn't even notice any media coverage and nobody ever reached out for
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So after the whole, we're in 2021 now, after the whole Russia investigation, the way the
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media treated people like you and the politicians and of certain cities, allowing Black Lives
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Matter and Antifa and so forth to ravage the cities.
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Do you think Republicans should sort of counter that, go do the same thing?
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Do you think that they should respond in kind like that?
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I think that, you know, on one level, the, the average Republican doesn't like to run
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dirty tricks and deceptive techniques like the Democrats do.
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I mean, let's just be honest, that's, that's a Democrat party technique, whether it's faking
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hate crimes like Jussie Smollett or, uh, you know, faking Russian collusion, like the
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So for, for Republicans who I think get on that level that you're, you're talking about,
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they, they, they look at themselves and they'd say, well, we'd have to start playing
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We'd have to be lying scoundrels, uh, you know, deceivers like the Democrats are.
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And, and the average Republican just doesn't want to do that.
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And I would say the average corrupt Republican just lets the Democrats get away with it.
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Uh, or, or like a Mitch McConnell or something like he's never going to fight these people.
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So I don't think that going to the lengths of the Democrats is the answer, but I think
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being honest about what it is that they're doing and being more, uh, fierce in the, in the
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pushback against it saying, Hey, look, you're, you're out here faking hate crimes and then
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introducing critical race theory into our schools.
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Like who's really causing racism in this, in this country right now, who's really adding
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So I think it's more of a, it's, it's a pushback against the deceptions.
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It's an acceptance of the reality that if, if Nancy Pelosi is up there talking or Chuck
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Schumer's up there talking, they're probably lying to you and just calling it out.
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I think that they're afraid of saying the wrong thing and, and having some negative story
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That's, that's what they, that's the obstacle they need to leap, not playing the dirty tricks
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of the Democrats, but leaping the hurdle of saying, Hey, I'm not going to be ashamed
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of whatever I call this person or however I address this person, because they're the
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liars, they're the crooks, they're the deceivers, not me.
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And right now it seems to me that Biden and a lot of the Democrats are basically pretending
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states like Texas, Florida, Dakotas, they don't really exist.
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How do you feel about the state of politics in the country?
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And why do you think these lockdowns are being perpetuated as if, like I said, these other
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And so I think that, that, that is dealing with something that goes beyond even, you know,
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the local government, the state government, or even the federal government.
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I mean, it's the CDC, I think for the most part, influencing that policy, maybe Fauci
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But I think that for states, when you look at Florida or you look at Texas or some of
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the other ones that have stayed open, like a South Dakota, you know, that, that is something
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You should be saying, Hey, here are the states that have opened here, the states that haven't.
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Notice that the Democrat states like New York and Illinois and California had to have hundreds
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of billions of dollars of bailout money in the stimulus bill because their states were
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But the lockdown thing, I mean, that's really a worldwide theme that is just, I believe,
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So I think that that's more of the issue that we're dealing with here.
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But as far as most other issues, I think that the state is probably the, the answer when
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trying to get the federal government off your back and what you see in Florida and South
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Dakota and Texas, kind of rejecting the masks, rejecting the lockdowns.
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I think the media has a big role to play in this.
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And I often ask people if they think a lot of the members, I'm talking the CNNs, the MSNBCs,
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are they bad at their job or are they just lying?
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But let me play an interaction you had once with somebody from CNN, Van Jones.
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And I want to juxtapose that with him crying on election night.
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I believe that Donald Trump is worse than a racist.
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Now, let me tell you why I think he's worse than a racist.
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A racist is someone who believes that his group is superior to another group.
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That's pretty bad to think that your group is good and another group is bad.
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Well, I think you're, I think you're a racial opportunist.
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Because I didn't know if you were the man who had enough character to listen to my answer.
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So, now, you ask the question, is Donald Trump a racist?
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In other words, he uses other people's racial anxieties, other people's possible racial antipathies,
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or just discomfort, and he plays with it for his own purposes, which means he doesn't think
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It's easier to tell your kids character matters.
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If you're Muslim in this country, you don't have to worry if the president doesn't want you here.
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So, Owen, try to hold back your tears on this one.
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He's, you know, Trump is just a racial grifter.
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He'll give credit to Kushner and Trump other times.
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But other times, you know, everything's a white lash, and he's crying about how tough it is to be a parent in America.
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Is there any way to determine whether or not these people are just bad or at their jobs or just lying?
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I think that it's a case-by-case thing, honestly.
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I think that you have to go case-by-case when dealing with these media people.
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Like, for example, Anderson Cooper, I think, is just a known liar.
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That one I think many people would have to have accepted by now.
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But, you know, when you talk about Van Jones, it's rare.
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Now, here's the credit that I will give to Van Jones, because I've had the opportunity to meet face-to-face almost every CNN host, now that I'm thinking about it.
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I guess he's not a host, but Van was the only one that actually talked to me.
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Tapper was probably the meanest of all of them.
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Let me just tell you, like, our cell phone equipment stopped working.
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With Van Jones, you can tell that there's a realness to the guy.
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You could probably sit down at a bar and enjoy a cold beverage with him, and it wouldn't be such a bad experience.
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But he's obviously exaggerating his emotions on TV.
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He's been caught on Project Veritas tape admitting that he knew Russian collusion was a fake story, but yet they ran with that for three years.
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So, he doesn't have the most integrity, I would say, when it comes to being a reporter or a newsman.
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He's smart enough to do what he needs to do to be successful on TV.
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But the funniest thing about that clip has to be the blatant hypocrisy of Van Jones saying Trump is a racial opportunist when that's everything CNN is.
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I mean, everything he just said is exactly what the liberal media does, whether it's George Floyd or Jacob Blake or Michael Brown and all the big lies that they tell.
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So, I mean, that's just incredible hypocrisy there from Van Jones.
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But I think Van Jones is probably the better way to describe his situation would be he's just – he's kind of an actor.
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He's smart enough that he knows what to say, what not to say.
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And so he's been successful on CNN coming out of the Obama administration, and he knew Russian collusion was fake news, but he still talked about it.
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So that's kind of one example of just Van Jones.
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Now, can we take any merit in watching the CNNs or the MSNBCs, or maybe your favorite, the Young Turks, I'd imagine is probably your favorite.
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Or should we just watch them to see what the other side is saying?
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I don't watch a single second of the Young Turks.
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I don't see any perceived value coming out of anything they do.
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I mean, there isn't – I think there's maybe some inherent value in watching CNN or MSNBC or some of the mainstream news that I just – I monitor.
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Just to monitor what their narratives are and to kind of see where they're trying to go, where they're going to go next, what they're saying, because you have to counter their lies.
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That's part of the – that's part of the job now of being a reporter and telling the truth of just countering the mainstream lies, countering the mainstream narrative.
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And so when you can kind of put your finger on the pulse of what they're going to do, you can kind of see what they're going to do next and see what the deception is.
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So I think there's some value in monitoring that, at least from where I sit at a news desk.
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But, yeah, the Young Turks will never get a second of my time.
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That would actually be something that would probably get millions of views.
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But for some reason, they never have any interest in that.
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I think the Alex and Chank interaction is one of my favorite videos of all time.
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And the funny thing is, that video and the Van Jones video, they were both from the Republican National Convention in 2016.
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All those videos, they had millions of views, banned from YouTube.
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Can't even – so I don't know how you guys found him.
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Now, free speech I want to transition to, something I believe in wholeheartedly.
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And if people want to lie on air, Van Jones wants to lie on air, I'm okay with that.
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But I want to move on to specifying on, like, weaponizing political experts or former office holders.
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For what, for lack of a better term, you could call propaganda.
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Now, I want to show an interaction you had with former Congressman Al Green, where he repeats the Charlottesville lies.
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And I want to talk about, like I said, weaponizing these former politicians to get your point across.
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Will you please quit lying about the president?
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He's won awards for his contributions to inner cities.
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Well, the veterans who were there are fine people.
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That's what he was talking about, the veterans.
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The people who were involved in killing that lady were not fine people.
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Okay, well, look, now I've talked to you and I appreciate it.
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But Trump is not a racist and you should stop saying that.
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So, Owen, when people are the status of former congressmen or they're the John Brennans and
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James Clappers, they're lying nightly on TV, how should the public deal with that?
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Well, when you're dealing with a James Clapper or some of these other CIA guys that go on
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MSNBC and CNN, I think that that's a little more extreme than an Al Green who's just, quite
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And just from my few exchanges with him, that's the sad truth of the situation there.
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But, you know, I think it's tough when they're in office or when they're when they actually
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I think that they should be they should have some sort of I mean, I would treat it almost
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I mean, if you're if you're if you're working for the American people, I mean, I guess we
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have treason laws, you know, sedition laws and stuff like that.
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But, you know, lying about weapons of mass destruction and then how many troops go into
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Iraq or Afghanistan and die because of those wars.
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I mean, we can go on and on the Gulf of Tonkin.
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And this goes this has been going on for decades, but in the modern day, it's Brennan going
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on CNN saying, yeah, Trump Trump is a Russian agent.
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You know, we have Trump doing this and Trump doing that all lies, but he's not with the
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But for Al Green, again, like you said, we don't we don't call for anybody to be censored.
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So Al Green has every right to go out there and call Trump a racist as much as he wants.
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I don't know what you really do to punish that.
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The problem is we we we are supposed to be living in a free republic.
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So that means free market, free market of information, elections, everything.
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So normally somebody like Al Green would not have a chance at office.
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This guy should have no chance in a free and open market with free and fair elections.
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But we don't have a free market of information.
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And I don't think there's many people that even trust we have free or fair elections these
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And that's how you end up with the Al Greens and the Nancy Pelosi's and the Maxine Waters
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And so I think the problem here is we don't have a free flow of information.
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And I don't think we have actual fair elections or even real elections, quite frankly.
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I mean, that's not really a big issue I take up.
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I think that if we had great politicians in there that were, you know, in there for 50
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years doing great things, standing up for America, we maybe wouldn't talk about term
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But because it seems to be the criminals and the crooks that take advantage of no term
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limits, you know, then maybe that's something to be considered.
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But I think there's other ways to solve these problems without, you know, imposing more law.
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Can you recall when do you think it was in your life when you started, you know, watching
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the television and being like, I don't necessarily trust this person because the TV tells me they're
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Was there any moment like that or was it just a gradual?
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I mean, I remember pretty vividly you sharing the list of people from the WikiLeaks that CNN
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Like the media, you remember what I'm talking about, the media list of people that were basically
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When was it that you sort of as a person realized that maybe I shouldn't just be taking everything
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I believe it was it was the day of the Boston Marathon bombing.
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But anyway, and the only reason it wasn't necessarily anything too crazy about that day,
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other than the fact that I was in sports media and that was all my that was my whole career.
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I mean, literally zero, zero minutes, zero seconds of politics, current events, didn't
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And so that was the first time really when since I had been in professional broadcasting
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that sports and and, you know, current events and news kind of merged.
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And so for the first time ever, I tuned into cable news.
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Now, I mean, literally first time ever, I think I'm like 22 or 23 hosting sports radio.
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And so just watching the news to figure out what's going on with this Boston bombing situation.
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And it was just like it was just like instinctual, like no matter what channel, like I just knew
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And then just through a little research of my own with alternative news outlets, just
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to do a little bit of research on what was actually happening at the scene, I found out
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that there were a bunch of anomalies and there was a bunch of information they weren't reporting.
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And I'm just sitting there thinking to myself, if I can get this information and if I can know
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this is going on, then certainly these people on cable television news know this is going
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on and yet they're not reporting it, hmm, something seems up here.
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I still remember the people's names, Ed Davis, Rich Delorier, Carmen Ortiz, I think was the
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I mean, it was that was my red pill moment was just watching how the whole thing works,
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watching how they rig news, watching how they cover up current events.
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And it was just like, boom, that was my red pill.
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Like, OK, TV news has been lying my whole life.
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Hmm, history is being written by the people that rig it my whole life.
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And then I started transferring from sports to politics.
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And it was really after the RNC of 2016, I think that that was like my final time being
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And I think that was a time where yourself and Alex Jones and InfoWars really started opening
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I mean, you guys became like you were big before, obviously, but in the mainstream news, you
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started to become a juggernaut with the Hillary fainting ordeal.
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The wobbly is like, and you guys were the first ones to report it.
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Paul Joseph Watson was right in there, too, as well.
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So I think that helps with a lot of people realizing that they're not the only ones who
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are, you know, the coming to a realization that everything that they see on there, this
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person that CNN puts up, who's an expert, John Oliver's opinion, isn't exactly the end
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It's sort of like a fantasy land where only one point of view exists.
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And everybody else who thinks otherwise, well, those are the crazy people.
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And I think you would get a lot of that if you watched a lot of late night talk shows.
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No, I'm missing the Kimmels of the world or whoever else is hosting late night talk
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Yeah, I haven't been able to watch it myself since I think Trump became president because
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So bad segue I want to make, too, is once when you were sexually assaulted on video.
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For those of you watching who don't know about this, please take a look.
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I think the instance in itself could be considered a minor issue.
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So if our president can grab a woman by the pussy, I can grab you by the bar.
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Women have so much privilege, she can sexually assault me and get away with it.
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I just told you, if you want to go ahead, there are police right here.
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You're the one that walked up and grabbed my crotch.
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Women get grabbed by the pussy, then I'm going to grab you by the balls.
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I don't know if you're still mentally recovering from that.
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But a lot of people, like me, want to know what ended up happening with that afterwards.
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Thanks for having me comments on screen,家族 on screen.
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uh she she did get charged with uh i forget the exact charges but i pressed charges for
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sexual assault and she did get sexual assault charges uh it happened uh all the court case
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and everything concluded i believe over a year ago now maybe even two so it's a little hazy the
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final conclusion that was reached but she did receive charges and um you know looking back on
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it basically what we decided the lawyers were like well you know technically i think that she should
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be charged with this but their lawyers didn't want it because that would put her on like a lifetime
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list you know of a sexual assaulters and they thought maybe the judge wouldn't be so willing
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to go along with that so they said let's let's put the charges to a lesser sexual assault charge
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because we think that'll be a higher percentage and that's what she ended up getting that was
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maybe the only regret because i think that you know maybe she should have had a little more punishment
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there but i think she probably learned her lesson and the ultimate lesson of course is that once
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again you you just look at the way the the left behaves you look at the way democrat voters behave
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in public they're just total hypocrites they don't believe in their message they don't even know their
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message uh they're out there fighting sexual assault and sexually assaulting people in the streets
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so i mean i don't know how much more hypocritical it gets than that but you know what's sad though
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is how many times i've been assaulted in the streets how many times i've been death threaded in the
00:28:57.660
streets i mean dozens of times and i believe to this day that is the only arrest that is the only
00:29:03.520
arrest i mean i've had men spit on me the cops witness it i've had men throw punches at me the cops
00:29:08.600
witness it i've had men grab my genitals uh drag queen story time deals and then cops right there
00:29:14.620
and they get away with it so i mean that's been the only time of all the death threats and assaults
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that's been the only one that's resulted in arrest which is pretty sad this is going to sound like
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a rhetorical question but right now there's no blm mass marches or riots there's no antifa
00:29:28.780
really in the streets except for of course in their stronghold city of portland which they now rule
00:29:33.920
i guess no women's march this year have these problems just gone away under biden owen or do we
00:29:39.500
know how long i have somebody to blame for it well i think that the the agenda here has has run its
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course right get trump out you know get trump so i think now that trump's out of the white house
00:29:51.560
i think the you know these these movements have really run their course they've they've fulfilled
00:29:55.760
their duty uh yeah why wouldn't you have me too for biden i mean you know i guarantee you most of
00:30:01.180
these people that claim trump sexually assaulted someone probably couldn't even name the name name
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a single name of a woman that's accused him but everybody knows tara reid right uh so it's funny
00:30:11.040
how tara reid doesn't get any uh me too marches or anything like that for biden but you know we don't
00:30:16.100
even need tara reid i mean we have the videos of biden when women come into the white house and
00:30:20.960
children come into the white house the sniffing the groping so i mean now that you have cuomo
00:30:25.340
too they ignored fairfax i mean they they laughed at franken so it just it just showed you the me too
00:30:31.760
was nothing more than get trump that's all it ever was and now that trump's out it's it's run its course
00:30:36.600
so oh magically the me too marches are done oh yeah i'm sure that's just coincidence those are some of
00:30:41.620
your best videos though so we need those marches back we need more content that way and i'm really
00:30:47.640
surprised that the biden uh smelling hair of teenagers and saying oh aren't you 17 they're
00:30:53.880
like no i'm 12 i'm surprised those don't get circulated a lot maybe they are just suppressed
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is a more likely outcome so we want to say goodbye to the youtube audience now and we're going to move
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for just eight dollars a month and what are we going to talk about we're going to talk about some of
00:31:11.740
you another one of your most possibly your most viral video we're going to get your opinion on
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vaccines and young republican groups so go to rebelnewsplus.com to see the rest you guys
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okay oh and we're in in even safer grounds now behind the rebel news plus wall um our safe space
00:31:27.940
we'll call it i want to get to i think this might be your most viral video it might be one of the first
00:31:33.300
ones i saw of yours i couldn't find the one where you're saying um you got the bullhorn and you're
00:31:38.000
talking about who donated to uh big pharma and it was hillary of course but the white male video i
00:31:44.800
think is maybe the funniest one you've ever been a part of so let's go ahead and just remind
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does not remind you of that does trump not remind you of that no explain to me how trump is like hitler
00:31:58.280
massed abortion this would be shit donald trump was founded on immigration
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you've never experienced oppression in your entire fucking life neither have i you don't know me
00:32:14.780
you're fucking a white male you're a white man i white people don't notice like people that's right
00:32:21.300
bullshit that's what bernie sanders said that's what bernie sanders said no yeah you did
00:32:26.460
that was too wild i laugh every time did you think it was going to be that widely shared when that
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happened did you feel that in the moment of uh what was his nickname aids skrillex i believe became
00:32:51.600
his name yeah that was a wild age skrillex there that day you know honestly i had an idea that that
00:32:58.580
was going to be pretty big in the moment because i had already i i had already met info wars crew
00:33:04.480
from prior events and so i think that and i was already doing some political stuff at the time so
00:33:09.620
i'm pretty sure when the info wars camera guy saw that i was there you know talking to these people
00:33:14.120
he immediately came to me and started filming so i knew it was going to be you know at least big
00:33:18.500
because it was going to be on the info wars platform uh but then once the crowd started
00:33:23.100
getting you know wild and stuff i i kind of i kind of knew in the moment that that was going to be
00:33:27.620
um it was going to be a famous video i don't i i don't think i could have ever predicted it was
00:33:32.100
going to be that famous but i definitely i definitely knew it was going to be big and then uh what
00:33:36.600
happened was because i i go i at the time i was producing afternoon drive radio and so after that
00:33:42.540
event i'm going in to get ready for that and i remember everybody starts coming in and they're
00:33:48.580
like hey did you see this and my picture was on the st louis post dispatch website it was like going
00:33:53.860
viral on all these other local sites and everything and i wasn't even really paying attention to that
00:33:58.140
because i was going to work and so then i was like whoa this is actually going to be this is
00:34:02.500
actually going to be a big thing and then the the youtube video of that on the info wars channel
00:34:07.920
was already getting millions of views there were already like remixes of age skrillex like dance
00:34:12.660
songs and stuff that i think may still be uh may still be up but yeah that was probably i don't know
00:34:18.480
if it's still the most viral video i've done but uh definitely at the time it was now that's about
00:34:24.040
five years ago or so uh from today 50 people yelling at you has discourse gotten better or worse since
00:34:31.920
then wow that's actually that is crazy i think it is exactly five years ago even
00:34:37.140
uh has discord it's gotten worse it's gotten worse well it doesn't even exist anymore i can't even i
00:34:44.920
can't even go i couldn't even go and recreate that magic if i wanted to anymore because they either
00:34:50.600
refuse to talk to you or they they get pretty violent immediately that's why a couple a couple
00:34:57.460
weeks ago when i went out to a pro mask rally i'm not even kidding you it was a pro mask rally that
00:35:03.580
makes a lot of sense yeah and so you can imagine the type of characters that were there but that
00:35:08.260
was like the first time in a long time where i could actually go to an event like that and actually
00:35:12.320
have a microphone and get people to talk to me or like be in an event that didn't get just totally out
00:35:17.680
of control or you know whether it got violent or people just not talking to me so i it's honestly
00:35:23.520
it's hard for me to even do that anymore um so it's it's it's kind of like i've been forced into
00:35:28.700
retirement in a way but it you know i think uh it's probably gotten worse i think it's gotten
00:35:35.380
worse in five years sadly it's gotten worse now maybe maybe you can start to come back around now
00:35:40.120
that trump is not in office but but from where we're at five years ago it's definitely gotten worse
00:35:44.860
now there are some groups of course that are trying to promote this sort of thing and i want to get
00:35:49.740
your opinion on them because i know you're not an establishment guy i know you're not just going to
00:35:53.660
ride or die with the republicans i'm the same way i'm not i'm not just going to go with a party i'm
00:35:59.020
going to go where i think the good ideas are groups like turning point uh young americans
00:36:04.140
foundation do you see them as an overall good or are they sort of just farming uh old thought
00:36:10.600
patterns from a republican party that maybe not all of us support anymore yeah kind of like the like
00:36:17.080
the extension of boomerism or something yeah i mean i talked to some of them sorry to interrupt i i've
00:36:23.140
interviewed uh some of them i've talked to some of them i mean i agree with most of what they're
00:36:27.820
saying but the way it's sort of formed in a machine i don't know if i can get behind that
00:36:32.500
yeah i think you know turning point is obviously a very wide wide stretching organization and so a lot
00:36:39.400
of the individuals you know that i've met are really great people and i think that pretty much
00:36:44.000
agree with at least all or most of the messages that i talk about on my broadcast but i do think you
00:36:49.560
know when you when you talk about charlie kirk and you talk about you know the top operation there's
00:36:53.800
a lot of big money behind that i think they're connected at the hip to the republican party and
00:36:58.280
so the narrative is always going to be controlled and it's there's always going to be you know ceilings
00:37:03.520
there's always going to be limitations of of where they're going to go with their with their
00:37:07.200
information and uh so you know i think there's obviously good in it uh but the thing is that people
00:37:13.580
just need to understand that that's like you know riding on a bunny hill at the at you know
00:37:19.040
the ski resort is like turning point usa is like the bunny hill of freedom i would say you know like
00:37:23.540
oh let's you know we're gonna hop on the bunny hill and we're going nice and slow and it's nice
00:37:27.300
and safe here we're in our comfort zone on the bunny hill and so that's just kind of what it means
00:37:32.420
to me but but you know i think most of the people that they're there are good uh you know charlie
00:37:36.960
kirk for whatever reason always wants to snub me and act like he doesn't know who i am or like he
00:37:41.000
doesn't know that i exist and so i i don't know if that's true or not if that is true then he really
00:37:45.280
has no clue what's going on was that when you were at uh the convention next to him it was that was you
00:37:51.000
right yeah it would no it was at um cpac right 20 20 19 or 20 20 19 yeah 2019 uh no i think it was
00:38:02.600
2020 i mean no it was 2019 i i i yeah i can man it's all like a blur anyway yeah he's he's coming up
00:38:10.720
he's shaking all these people's hands and i'm like hey charlie kirk how you doing i want to
00:38:13.960
infowars and he like snubs me and everybody around is chanting charlie and infowars and then his and
00:38:20.180
then his little handlers literally grab him and he's like oh i gotta go and he like runs away and
00:38:24.460
there was actually another time he snubbed me too it was it was it was just this thing we were both at
00:38:28.500
trump hotel and i was sitting in this chair and i saw him walk by and i was just like i was just like
00:38:32.760
oh hey charlie how you doing like just jovial and he literally acted like he didn't even hear me
00:38:36.740
and just like scooted away so i don't know what the deal with that is i don't want to think the
00:38:41.260
worst about tp usa but it's just it's the bunny hill of freedom i would say it's the bunny hill
00:38:47.140
of freedom you're you're not going to really have any thrills you're not going to really get anything
00:38:51.760
new but you're always going to be safe and i think you're always going to be connected to the
00:38:55.820
republican party so you'll only go as far as they want you to as far as young americans for freedom
00:39:00.980
lot smaller not as much big money behind it a little more libertarian leading uh leaning and so
00:39:07.520
i think that uh you get a little bit more of an organic approach to the issues that aren't really
00:39:12.900
tied to party politics like you do with tp usa but i've only had a few run-ins with people from yaf but
00:39:18.140
i think it's more libertarian leaning not much big money behind it so it's it's more organic in its
00:39:22.440
approach for sure charlie kirk stop cool guying owen troyer so one of the last questions i want to ask you
00:39:28.600
is about vaccines everyone's going to want to know is owen troyer getting any of the vaccines for
00:39:34.400
coronavirus no no i won't be uh getting any of the vaccines neither will i and i'm and i'm telling my
00:39:41.780
family do not get the vaccines either now do you think this is uh do you think the pharmaceutical
00:39:46.960
companies i don't want to put you on the spot here but do you think that they're there's something
00:39:51.480
more purposeful or bad behind it or is it too much of a risk for them to put out something that's
00:39:58.460
defective and would affect their sales well there's really no risk involved at all for big
00:40:04.400
pharmaceutical in this case uh specifically with vaccines because that you can't take a vaccine
00:40:09.300
manufacturer to court you can't do it they have their own special court system where basically
00:40:14.120
if the court says that there was damage then they'll pay you a fee but that's it uh and so and
00:40:19.760
so most people don't even know they were vaccine damaged so there really is no risk uh inherited by
00:40:24.980
the vaccine manufacturers uh in this case but you know at the i think here here's the thing at the
00:40:30.080
very least or the best case scenario that we have here is big pharmaceutical companies or or whoever
00:40:37.620
with the media and perhaps some of the people that they they own in congress just just ran what i would
00:40:44.680
call a fake pandemic if you look at the death count numbers they did not go up in the year 2020
00:40:49.200
they did not go up a single percentage now how is that possible with the deadliest pandemic ever
00:40:53.660
so at the best case scenario big pharmaceuticals and and media companies and the congress people
00:40:59.460
that they own just faked a pandemic to sell a bunch of vaccines and boy boy did they hundreds of
00:41:04.880
millions of vaccines distributed they'll make billions if not trillions of dollars over time
00:41:09.640
with this deal so great job they own the media they own the courts they own the congress they just
00:41:14.480
made themselves billions of dollars in a huge scam that's best case scenario that's best case scenario
00:41:19.580
because people can understand that what's the motive money okay everybody gets that but worst
00:41:24.800
case scenario they're running a trial vaccine it's all by design who knows what this thing is going to
00:41:29.800
do we've already got people dropping dead you've got people having horrible side effects like guion
00:41:35.260
beret syndrome and bell's palsy so i mean it's it's it's not it's not good and it looks like right now i
00:41:41.380
would say for most people the odds that you're going to have a negative experience with the vaccine
00:41:46.300
are higher than the odds you'll have a negative experience with covet and that's something that i
00:41:51.380
that i bring up with a lot of people i mean they're gonna they're gonna say oh it's just fault for all
00:41:56.980
of our safety but my belief has sort of shifted to that there's a lot of money to be made made by this
00:42:03.240
and that's what i was kind of referring to earlier when i talked about the ignoring of states that are
00:42:08.000
open because biden gets up there and he's saying well you know if you get a vaccine you could have a
00:42:13.500
4th of july well you can have a 4th of july in about 15 other states but you have to get this
00:42:18.780
vaccine at the same time i don't understand the messaging other than please get this and make us a
00:42:24.440
lot of money am i talking crazy here no i mean this is the simplest formula really uh we all know how
00:42:31.420
much money is in big pharmaceutical companies we all know how much they invest in media and politics so
00:42:36.920
yeah they would be able to control the message on both of those platforms and if they can get people
00:42:41.900
to promote their vaccine and have you in fear that you want to get the vaccine then yeah they'll sell
00:42:46.240
100 million vaccines i think the number is almost half a billion now of vaccines distributed worldwide
00:42:51.860
so that's a pretty nice boondoggle that's a pretty nice that's a pretty nice cash flush that they just
00:42:57.740
had there all right one more question and then i'll let you go because i appreciate your time
00:43:02.440
is this the start of the owen troyer podcast tour we see alex on the flagrant podcast he's been on
00:43:08.400
rogan i don't see you on as many podcasts as i would like can we start you getting on more and
00:43:14.520
more of these well i i i would love to do them i'm obviously not as big as alex and i think uh the
00:43:21.620
reason why people don't really invite me on podcasts is because i i was pretty much censored
00:43:26.400
before anybody really started looking into censorship and i was pretty much censored before people saw that
00:43:33.320
i had a big youtube channel with hundreds of thousands of subscribers and a big twitter account and
00:43:36.980
all that stuff so that's what people look for for guests now and if you're not there they just
00:43:40.460
really don't have any interest on in you uh unless they follow your stuff so uh i don't know i i don't
00:43:46.760
mind alex doing the heavy lifting and going and doing all the podcast tours that's not a bad thing but
00:43:51.340
i'm always appreciative when people invite me on all right well i want to see more of you i think uh
00:43:57.100
i see a lot of myself and you owen let me tell you
00:43:59.780
or i don't know who's older probably uh maybe it's like vice versa maybe uh maybe my suit was
00:44:07.300
stolen from you who knows how old are you that'll have to that'll have to be a behind the double
00:44:11.260
paywall all right you can only get the secret information from the double paywall it'll include
00:44:16.080
your suit size my suit size our ages and our fake birth certificates okay hospitals of birth
00:44:22.680
everything last word to you owen go ahead well you know we're in incredible times right now and i
00:44:29.780
think that if you are like me you always had an instinct you always had a gut intuition that that
00:44:34.860
humanity would be faced with this crisis and that we would have to make a choice so people just need
00:44:39.640
to make a choice because you can see where culture is going you can see where society is going
00:44:43.820
you can see where america is going if you don't like it you better take action to turn it around
00:44:49.360
because this is this is an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object and it's going to be
00:44:54.540
really bad if we don't turn this ship around and save the republic soon all right finer words have
00:45:00.900
not been said by myself all i do is owen on gab and of course band.video and infowars.com war room
00:45:07.760
war room is raw are we do we still have the wrestling theme right now uh we we keep 90s themes
00:45:14.640
consistent we've kind of backed off a little bit of the attitude era but uh it's always there
00:45:19.220
it's always underlying all right as long as we get the glass shattering at the beginning i think
00:45:23.140
we're okay thanks a lot owen i appreciate it i'll talk to you soon okay thank you