Rebel News Podcast - May 27, 2021


What's it like living in the freest state in the freest country?


Episode Stats

Length

34 minutes

Words per Minute

190.33871

Word Count

6,659

Sentence Count

391

Misogynist Sentences

4

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

While here in Canada, Conservative leaders are basically indistinguishable from the worst Liberal or New Democrat politicians in the United States, Conservative Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida is holding the line on freedom and civil liberties during the time of the coronavirus scare.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello Rebels, you're listening to a free audio-only recording of my weekly Wednesday night show,
00:00:05.220 The Gun Show.
00:00:05.780 Tonight my guest is my friend Alex Newman of The New American and The Epoch Times, and
00:00:11.480 he lives in Florida where things are free and open and the conservative governor, Ron
00:00:17.600 DeSantis, is amazing.
00:00:20.140 Just amazing.
00:00:21.180 He will not bend to pressure from the media or the left or the cancel culture mob.
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00:01:17.300 What's it like living in the freest state, in the freest country that has ever existed
00:01:40.880 on the face of the earth, in all of human history?
00:01:44.820 My guest tonight explains what it's like to live in beautiful Florida.
00:01:49.800 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.
00:01:52.120 While here in Canada, Conservative leaders are basically indistinguishable from the worst
00:02:15.000 Liberal or New Democrat politicians in the United States, Conservative Republican governors
00:02:20.580 are holding the line on freedom and civil liberties during the time of the coronavirus,
00:02:24.920 and they're being led by Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.
00:02:27.440 Now, DeSantis has been under attack for his approach to the coronavirus
00:02:30.280 since the very beginning of the coronavirus scare way back in March.
00:02:36.120 Mainstream media and the left, but I'm kind of repeating myself there,
00:02:40.020 all predicted some sort of mass casualty event because he didn't cancel spring break on the beach.
00:02:45.420 The mass casualty event never actually materialized, but instead of using that approach
00:02:51.240 that DeSantis took to spring break as a learning situation, a teachable moment,
00:02:56.320 as the left says for how to deal with the coronavirus going forward,
00:02:59.700 the left and the media predictably doubled down, ignoring catastrophes unfolding in strict
00:03:06.280 Democrat lockdown states like New York to focus their attention on DeSantis,
00:03:11.840 and cheer for the failure of DeSantis and predict the deaths of Floridians at his hands.
00:03:18.040 What a bunch of ghouls.
00:03:19.160 But some 15 months later, DeSantis and his approach have been proven right.
00:03:24.320 That lockdowns don't work, that life never should have been disrupted,
00:03:27.660 and that businesses and schools should have remained open from the very beginning.
00:03:33.300 But it's not just on the coronavirus where DeSantis shines,
00:03:36.780 where he's the torchbearer of true conservative values right now in the United States.
00:03:40.520 He's refusing to bow to mainstream media and lefty pressure,
00:03:44.480 again, I'm repeating myself there, on issues of vaccine passports,
00:03:48.140 critical race theory, the Wuhan lab leak hypothesis,
00:03:52.000 and he's even brought in a new law that prevents big tech companies from deplatforming
00:03:56.820 political candidates, something President Trump should have done in his four years in power.
00:04:03.700 Florida is where normal survived the pandemic,
00:04:08.000 while conservative leaders in the rest of the world,
00:04:11.100 well, they haven't taken their boot off the neck of normal in nearly a year and a half.
00:04:15.780 So joining me now to discuss what it's like to live in the beautiful Ron DeSantis utopia
00:04:22.720 is my friend Alex Newman of the New American Magazine and the Epoch Times.
00:04:27.960 Take a listen.
00:04:28.640 Joining me now is Alex Newman from the New American and a host of other publications,
00:04:48.080 and I wanted to have Alex on the show to talk about what could have been in Alberta
00:04:53.960 if our conservative leader was actually conservative, because Alex lives in Florida,
00:05:00.200 the freest state in the union.
00:05:02.800 I think probably the freest jurisdiction in the world right now is going to say the free world,
00:05:08.300 but I think Florida is truly the freest place in the world right now.
00:05:12.020 And you guys in Florida, you're living your best life.
00:05:15.680 You haven't had coronavirus restrictions really ever.
00:05:19.040 But what were left, those are all gone too, right?
00:05:23.360 Yeah.
00:05:23.860 At the state level, we had virtually nothing.
00:05:26.520 Most of the restrictions that we did have came from local tyrants in left-wing jurisdictions.
00:05:31.940 So we actually had the very first pastor arrested was here in Florida.
00:05:36.000 It was a pastor out in Tampa, a very well-known pastor, Pastor Howard.
00:05:40.020 And they did this big show.
00:05:42.600 They had a helicopter and a press conference.
00:05:45.360 They even brought out another pastor to say why this pastor that they were arresting was wrong.
00:05:48.920 But then our dear governor, Ron DeSantis, stepped in and said,
00:05:51.400 look, you need to let that man go right now.
00:05:53.400 Church is essential.
00:05:54.300 Cut it out.
00:05:55.320 And so that was overturned very quickly.
00:05:57.180 And that set the tone for the rest of the pandemic.
00:06:00.260 Our schools opened up almost immediately.
00:06:03.100 We did have a handful of left-wing jurisdictions that mandated the face diapers.
00:06:07.240 But even those, our governor said anybody who violated one of the local restrictions,
00:06:11.080 he would just pardon them immediately.
00:06:12.740 And our governor does have in our state constitution the authority to pardon people.
00:06:16.700 So basically, we've been living as normal here.
00:06:19.540 I mean, you know, the sensible people have been at least.
00:06:21.420 There's, of course, the people that watch CNN that walk around with a face diaper of their own free will.
00:06:26.900 But no, Florida is really an amazing place to be.
00:06:29.100 And I travel a lot, you know, even around the United States.
00:06:31.600 You're right.
00:06:32.440 The United States is by far, or the state of Florida is by far the freest jurisdiction in the United States.
00:06:37.620 And therefore, I think by extension, it's the freest jurisdiction in the world.
00:06:40.780 And I can promise you, we don't have people dropping dead out in the streets from lack of,
00:06:45.620 you know, face diaper protection and all the rest of it.
00:06:48.640 In fact, if you look at our numbers, they're significantly better than all the states that did the tyranny,
00:06:53.000 New York and Washington.
00:06:55.140 We're doing just fine here.
00:06:56.880 Freedom actually works.
00:06:57.920 Imagine.
00:06:58.260 Yeah, it's funny because a lot of Canadian snowbirds were far more likely to be vaccinated
00:07:03.520 if that's what they want to do, if they were in Florida, as opposed to if they were at home
00:07:08.360 here in Canada.
00:07:11.260 And Governor DeSantis really has set the tone for the entire state.
00:07:17.340 And I think he is, you know, CNN will tell you that Cuomo,
00:07:21.920 Gropio Cuomo was America's governor.
00:07:24.040 But I think DeSantis, if you are a freedom-minded American who believes in the Constitution,
00:07:30.140 then Governor DeSantis truly is America's governor.
00:07:33.140 And I think setting the tone with pardoning people who were being ticketed and hammered
00:07:37.500 with these coronavirus lockdown violations,
00:07:40.240 that's something that I wish I would see from a conservative leader here in Canada.
00:07:46.660 I mean, as you know, we've set up an entire civil liberties charity called Fight the Fines,
00:07:52.200 just helping normal people fight their lockdown tickets.
00:07:54.820 And the majority of those tickets, I'm ashamed to say, are coming from conservative-led jurisdictions
00:08:01.380 like Ontario, like Manitoba, like my home province of Alberta, where we've now imprisoned
00:08:06.140 three pastors for the crime of holding unconstrained church services during the pandemic.
00:08:13.460 Now, I wanted to talk to you about one thing that I think is so indicative of Governor DeSantis's
00:08:23.220 foresight going forward.
00:08:25.300 And this is the one thing that I was highly critical of Trump,
00:08:28.260 because he had the power to do something about big tech,
00:08:31.680 and he just never seemed to get there, but not Governor DeSantis.
00:08:35.800 Yeah, so we did get an excellent new law here in the state of Florida that will try to hold
00:08:42.520 the big tech companies accountable.
00:08:44.000 So if they censor a political candidate who's running for state or even for local office,
00:08:48.880 they will face massive fines.
00:08:51.260 And that's a good start, right?
00:08:52.360 Because we don't want the tech companies interfering in our elections.
00:08:55.480 They also will have to disclose if they're giving people a boost, right?
00:08:58.620 If their favorite candidate is getting shown up in everybody's news feeds,
00:09:01.940 they'll have to reveal that.
00:09:03.000 They'll have to report that as an in-kind donation.
00:09:05.920 So these are very, very good steps.
00:09:08.180 I hope we're going to see a lot more of this.
00:09:09.920 I hope this will be just the first step in trying to sort this out.
00:09:13.580 There's a lot of things at work here, you know, and I'm the first one to say,
00:09:16.280 yeah, companies should have freedom to do what they want.
00:09:19.380 But this is a totally different animal.
00:09:21.220 What we're talking about here with the social media companies,
00:09:23.380 and even companies like Google, is an effort to deceive people.
00:09:27.680 It's an effort to manipulate people.
00:09:29.280 Project Veritas just revealed, just in the last few days,
00:09:32.740 an incredibly explosive story out of Facebook that naturally is being censored,
00:09:36.500 where they're actually assigning a score to people's comments,
00:09:40.160 to people's posts about vaccines.
00:09:42.420 And the more vaccine-hesitant it is, the lower score it gets,
00:09:46.040 and therefore it gets basically hidden.
00:09:48.400 Nobody can see it, whereas it's opposed to pro-vaccine nonsense.
00:09:51.120 Sorry, I don't mean to interrupt you,
00:09:52.300 but this sounds a lot like a social credit score that you would see from the CCP.
00:09:55.900 Okay, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.
00:09:57.680 That's where this is all moving.
00:09:59.680 That's what's so Orwellian about this.
00:10:02.040 And so actually, I wrote an article in the Epoch Times probably a couple months ago now
00:10:05.960 about legislation that was being pursued in Montana.
00:10:08.740 I think this was a really, really good model as well.
00:10:10.960 It failed by one vote, unfortunately.
00:10:13.360 A couple of the rhino Republicans, we call them the Republicans in name only,
00:10:17.020 crossed over to vote with Democrats.
00:10:18.580 And so they were able to block this this time.
00:10:20.840 But what it would have done is put the social media companies under the Montana has what
00:10:25.480 they call a public service commission.
00:10:27.100 It's an elected commission.
00:10:28.440 And this would have put them under the authority of the public service commission.
00:10:32.560 So under the legislation, if these companies were discriminating against people based on
00:10:37.340 their political views, based on their religious views, if you're a Christian, for example,
00:10:41.260 you would have had recourse.
00:10:42.420 You could have gone to the public service commission and said, look, this company is discriminating
00:10:45.560 against me.
00:10:46.260 And then the public service commission would offer the company the opportunity to make it right.
00:10:50.080 And if they refuse, then they would pay massive fines.
00:10:53.920 And so I interviewed a lot of people involved from the state senate, from the state house,
00:10:57.180 and also from the public service commission.
00:10:59.060 And I said, look, this is the same thing as saying, like, you know, if you're a black
00:11:02.420 person or a Muslim, you got to ride at the back of the bus, right?
00:11:04.900 I mean, it's not acceptable in our society anymore.
00:11:07.800 And then you add to the fact, add to this, the fact that these social media companies were
00:11:11.860 stood up with help from our government, with help from taxpayer money.
00:11:16.120 In-Q-Tel is always right there behind the scenes, the investment arm of the intelligence
00:11:19.600 community.
00:11:20.600 And you realize these are not just independent companies.
00:11:23.760 These are almost appendages of the government.
00:11:27.860 And they need to be brought to heel.
00:11:29.200 They need to be brought under control.
00:11:30.800 And so I'm very proud of our governor.
00:11:32.160 I'm very proud of our legislature for taking these actions to try to hold these people
00:11:36.120 accountable.
00:11:36.600 And again, hopefully it'll just be the first step among many in bringing these wicked,
00:11:41.060 wicked corporations to heel.
00:11:42.380 Yeah, I mean, when you think about the size of these companies and the information that
00:11:47.460 they control, and in the case of PayPal, which has been problematic, to use the language of
00:11:53.760 the left for us here at Rebel News, but also for you, you told me, you know, they really
00:12:00.040 are like virtual countries.
00:12:03.240 They're oligarchs, really.
00:12:04.580 With the amount of, again, information they control and finance they control, they really
00:12:09.800 get to decide who gets heard and who doesn't.
00:12:12.720 And it's really interesting to see the people who would not shut up about Russian collusion
00:12:19.960 for years and years and years defend social media and big tech collusion, working to silence
00:12:30.020 the competition to their preferred candidates.
00:12:33.300 Yeah, it really is outrageous.
00:12:35.160 I'm glad you brought up PayPal.
00:12:36.380 Just a couple of days after I had you on my program to talk about how PayPal banned Rebel
00:12:40.380 Media, they banned little old me.
00:12:42.940 And, you know, it's just pathetic.
00:12:45.060 I think they have this unhinged bigotry.
00:12:48.280 But, frankly, I think in a real way, this is opening up a space for competition, and
00:12:53.740 hopefully that's going to be a healthy thing.
00:12:55.340 If I was a shareholder of PayPal, I'd probably be filing a lawsuit, because this is obviously
00:12:59.540 not in the best interest of the shareholders.
00:13:02.120 They're, I think, flagrantly violating their fiduciary obligation to the people who invested
00:13:07.720 in this company and expect this company to make business decisions based on what's going
00:13:11.620 to make profit, not based on pursuing their insane hatred and bigotry against Christians
00:13:16.020 and conservatives.
00:13:16.740 But, you know, be that as it may, these social media companies, they really, they've gotten
00:13:21.660 so much power now to the point where they're influencing elections.
00:13:24.300 They're manipulating people to make certain medical decisions without fully understanding
00:13:28.480 the implications of that.
00:13:29.920 It's a very, very dangerous situation.
00:13:32.740 And so, you know, I'm glad that so many American states are now working on this.
00:13:36.780 I agree with you.
00:13:37.280 Trump really should have hit this harder.
00:13:39.000 He had a good understanding of what was happening and how they were all working against him.
00:13:43.140 But we really do need to bring these companies under control.
00:13:46.320 The consequences for self-government, for individual liberty, even for proper understanding.
00:13:52.420 Right.
00:13:52.560 Our governor here, Ron DeSantis, convened a panel of scientists.
00:13:56.000 It was really some of the top scientists in the world.
00:13:57.780 He had scientists from Oxford, from Stanford, from Harvard University on the coronavirus
00:14:02.700 restrictions, the face mask mandates, the shutdowns, lockdowns.
00:14:07.440 And he actually asked them, well, what about this censorship that we're seeing now from
00:14:10.960 the big technology companies?
00:14:12.420 They said, look, that's actually dangerous.
00:14:14.320 OK, the way you pursue science is people have a discussion and you present your evidence
00:14:19.500 and then people have a chance to say, no, that evidence is wrong for this reason.
00:14:22.200 That's how we move forward with scientific knowledge, with medical knowledge.
00:14:25.500 And yet when you have an entire side of the conversation or multiple sides of the conversation
00:14:29.500 just being squashed in silence, you run the risk of making some very, very serious mistakes.
00:14:34.580 You run the risk.
00:14:35.000 And when you're talking about public health, we're talking about the lives of millions
00:14:37.660 of people on the line here.
00:14:39.100 They said this is dangerous.
00:14:40.460 Dr. Scott Atlas said this is a dangerous phenomenon.
00:14:43.200 And I agree.
00:14:44.240 People's lives are being put at risk here.
00:14:46.180 And unless these social media companies want to be held personally liable for some of these
00:14:51.520 kinds of mistakes that result from their censorship.
00:14:53.360 Like, you know, this thing where they said that the Wuhan virus was totally naturally.
00:14:57.460 They actually censored us for suggesting that it might have come out of this Institute of
00:15:00.740 Virology in communist China.
00:15:02.740 Now, Dr. Fauci says, well, maybe that happened.
00:15:05.000 So, you know, now they're having to walk that.
00:15:06.480 Are they going to go back and uncensor us?
00:15:07.920 Are they going to go back and remove all those strikes?
00:15:10.240 I can guarantee you they won't.
00:15:11.960 So we have a real problem here with, you know, some some geeks in Silicon Valley with, you
00:15:16.140 know, purple hair and transgender, you know, trying to decide what medical information
00:15:20.200 doctors are allowed to talk about.
00:15:22.100 They're not doctors.
00:15:23.240 And even if they were, they don't know everything.
00:15:25.480 It's a grotesque situation.
00:15:27.060 And I think somebody needs to be held responsible.
00:15:29.960 Yeah.
00:15:30.140 I mean, you see a lot of.
00:15:32.260 And again, this goes back to how you and I first met at the UN climate change conferences.
00:15:37.040 You see a lot of the same attitude being applied to the coronavirus as you see applied to climate
00:15:44.500 change, as in the science is settled.
00:15:47.320 The debate is over.
00:15:49.220 Anybody who talks about maybe there's a different way to do things.
00:15:53.420 You're a complete heretic.
00:15:54.560 Um, and even when the doomsday predictions don't manifest, which they haven't in either circumstance,
00:16:02.600 everybody just pretends like they didn't make those doomsday predictions and that they weren't
00:16:06.840 wrong.
00:16:07.080 And then they just keep moving forward because they're the same people with the power to
00:16:10.740 censor the internet.
00:16:11.480 That's right.
00:16:12.660 Uh, and you, you know, Sheila, this is a hallmark of people who are wrong.
00:16:16.300 Um, if their arguments were good, if their evidence was strong, if their predictions were
00:16:20.100 credible, there would be absolutely no need to censor people, to shadow ban people, to
00:16:24.780 have Google write the algorithms to, you know, not return news from rebel news or whatever.
00:16:29.560 Um, it, it really is, uh, evidence, I think clear evidence that these people understand
00:16:36.020 that in a free marketplace of ideas, their lies and their propaganda are going to lose.
00:16:40.780 You know, that's when in, in the 2016 election, I think they had this realization that, oh my
00:16:44.740 goodness, our propaganda is not working anymore.
00:16:47.260 Uh, you know, if people have, and it was still a rigged marketplace of ideas, there were still
00:16:50.760 shadow banning people who told the truth.
00:16:52.580 It wasn't quite, you know, banning completely, but you know, now we see why if people have the
00:16:58.400 option, they'll go for the truth.
00:17:00.220 At least many of them will.
00:17:01.400 And, and their narratives were imploding.
00:17:03.140 I mean, all, all the big media companies together on YouTube, we're getting less views
00:17:08.200 than just some, the handful of alternative voices.
00:17:10.580 So they got really scared.
00:17:12.260 And I think this is in a way an admission that they realize, uh, their narrative is losing.
00:17:18.480 So it's encouraging in one way, but we do need to have our States, uh, and maybe even, uh,
00:17:24.320 federal governments step into this and say, look, this is inappropriate.
00:17:27.980 It's against our laws.
00:17:29.200 It's also deceitful, right?
00:17:30.700 Most people who sign up to Facebook or who use Google, they assume that this is an honest,
00:17:35.560 even playing field that when they search for something in Google, they're going to get
00:17:38.800 results based on some objective criteria, not based on the personal preferences of some
00:17:43.180 tech geek in Silicon Valley.
00:17:44.880 And yet that's not what they're getting.
00:17:46.840 Uh, plus you add to that, the data gathering, the data, my, who gave Google permission to save
00:17:51.700 every search result we've ever made.
00:17:53.200 Nobody did.
00:17:54.000 Right.
00:17:54.140 I mean, it's in the terms of service.
00:17:55.620 It's just absolutely crazy.
00:17:57.180 And I think we need to have a broad national and really international discussion about the
00:18:02.300 power that these corporations have usurped, the deceptive business practices they're using.
00:18:06.640 And I think we ought to start with Michael Crow in the state of Arizona, uh, who his cover
00:18:11.120 job is a president of Arizona state university, but his real job is chairman of Inc.
00:18:15.100 You tell the CIA NSA investment company that's standing up all these companies and then weaponizing
00:18:20.920 them against the people of the United States.
00:18:23.780 Boy, oh boy.
00:18:24.800 It's scary when you realize the power these people have, and then all the things they know
00:18:30.320 about you and you, and that you let them know about you because you just signed up for this
00:18:35.620 stuff thinking, as you say, that these are just ways to connect with people instead of
00:18:41.340 ways to mine every little bit about who you are and what you like and who your friends are.
00:18:46.960 I mean, it's just, yeah, it's creepy when you think about it.
00:18:49.840 Um, now I wanted to ask you about another thing that Ron DeSantis has done, and it's again,
00:18:56.520 completely opposite of what's happening here in some of the more conservative jurisdictions
00:19:02.060 in Canada.
00:19:03.140 Right now in Alberta, our reopening is tied to our vaccination rate.
00:19:09.060 Basically, if we aren't strong armed into getting a vaccine, well then our neighbors who run
00:19:15.140 a small business, they may never get to open their restaurant again or that kind of thing.
00:19:19.700 You're, you're being coerced through guilt, uh, and into, you know, taking, um, a vaccine
00:19:27.240 and whatever you feel about the efficacies of this vaccine or these vaccines or not, I'm
00:19:33.360 strongly against coercion and tying the reopening of the economy to these things.
00:19:38.100 And on the flip side, in the freest place in the world, in Florida, you've got a governor
00:19:43.700 who just banned a vaccine passport.
00:19:46.480 Yeah.
00:19:46.960 Again, we, we are just so blessed to be here in Florida and, you know, in church and in
00:19:52.500 community meetings, everybody's just so thankful for our governor, uh, for having the foresight
00:19:57.780 here.
00:19:58.000 He was, you know, one of the first to speak out against this.
00:20:00.900 He did use an executive order to ban it.
00:20:02.760 Uh, and then he said, and I just, I love this about him.
00:20:05.220 Look, an executive order is not enough.
00:20:07.140 Okay.
00:20:07.440 We need to put this in our laws because I'm not going to be governor forever.
00:20:10.660 Who knows who's going to be the next governor?
00:20:12.320 We need to make sure that there is a law in place.
00:20:15.220 And so he actually went to the legislature.
00:20:17.180 He convinced the legislature that we needed an actual law on the books that would make this
00:20:21.700 ban permanent and final.
00:20:24.260 Uh, and so they did, uh, the, the legislature passed the law, the governor signed that.
00:20:28.260 And so we are now the first and maybe the only jurisdiction on planet or, you know, some
00:20:33.280 of the other governors have taken action, but we actually have a law in place so that
00:20:36.900 the next governor can't come in and say, just kidding.
00:20:38.620 We're having a vaccine passports.
00:20:40.000 Uh, and so God bless Ron DeSantis, God bless our legislature for this.
00:20:43.680 Uh, and you know, because Florida did this, everybody else almost in the world is going
00:20:47.780 to benefit.
00:20:48.540 Florida is one of the top tourism destinations on planet earth.
00:20:51.800 I mean, we've got Orlando, we've got Miami, we've got, we've got people from all over
00:20:55.240 the world that are constantly coming here.
00:20:57.720 And, um, and this is, I think a real strong message and we've had some of the big crony
00:21:02.380 companies that, you know, the cruise lines, Norwegian cruise lines, remember that name.
00:21:06.560 They're trying to bully our governor.
00:21:08.140 They're trying to bully our legislature right now into overturning those restrictions so
00:21:12.360 that they can mandate vaccines and mandate vaccine passports to go on their cruises.
00:21:17.380 And again, regardless of what you think of these experimental shots that are not even FDA
00:21:21.100 approved, by the way, they're only approved for emergency use authorization, regardless
00:21:24.580 of what you think of these things.
00:21:25.940 And I encourage you to go listen to some of the doctors who are being censored and find
00:21:29.180 out why they're being censored, but regardless of what you think of these things, it is immoral
00:21:32.980 to make people have to carry their papers and prove their health status and their vaccination
00:21:37.240 status to be able to participate in everyday life.
00:21:40.820 Um, you know, this is one of the reasons why the Nazis got in so much trouble at the Nuremberg,
00:21:44.200 right?
00:21:44.380 You got to carry your papers everywhere.
00:21:45.880 You're going to subject people to medical experimentation against their will without informed consent.
00:21:51.460 I mean, these principles have been enshrined in Western law and American law for many
00:21:56.800 generations and for good reason.
00:21:58.780 And yet now we're just throwing that all out the window.
00:22:01.560 So Ron DeSantis and our governor, our legislature have done a very, very important thing here.
00:22:06.860 I hope this will inspire other states to follow suit.
00:22:09.500 I know Canada is not quite as fortunate, but hey, it's never too late to turn around, walk
00:22:15.220 back from the cliff and use some common sense here.
00:22:17.700 Yeah, it's really something to see Ron DeSantis, not only protecting people's rights, but I
00:22:24.440 mean, he's preserving human dignity and privacy.
00:22:27.900 You do not have to disclose your private medical information to complete and total strangers on
00:22:34.300 a cruise line.
00:22:35.340 You know, that's really what it comes down to.
00:22:37.480 Do you have a right to hold your private medical information private or do you have to give it
00:22:43.300 to everybody just so that you can participate in society and, you know, good for Governor
00:22:48.940 DeSantis and good for him on so many things.
00:22:51.440 He also has banned critical race theory in school and or is it in school or is it in government
00:22:56.940 in general?
00:22:58.440 In schools, actually.
00:22:59.700 Okay, great.
00:23:00.560 What a protection for parents, by the way, to do that for them.
00:23:04.780 Yeah, it's really been phenomenal.
00:23:06.640 I want to say one more thing about the vaccine passports, you know, even for the people who
00:23:10.080 think maybe this vaccine passport might be a good idea because I don't trust the vaccine
00:23:13.920 enough to trust that after I've gotten it, I'm going to be protected.
00:23:16.440 Even if you believe that, what happens when they start mandating the next one and then
00:23:19.800 the next one after that and then they start adding other stuff to it.
00:23:23.120 You know, maybe you need to prove this status or that status and then they turn it into a
00:23:27.800 Chinese social credit system where, well, you've got a score and you haven't had all
00:23:31.120 your vaccines.
00:23:31.700 Plus, you've expressed unpopular opinions on Facebook.
00:23:34.720 Well, you know, we probably can't let you on this airplane.
00:23:37.240 It's very dangerous, folks.
00:23:38.600 Even if you're okay with it where it is right now, you've got to realize this is just the
00:23:42.700 building block that we'll be built upon.
00:23:44.880 As for the critical race theory issues, yes, Ron DeSantis did issue an order making this
00:23:52.320 prohibited in government indoctrination centers posing as schools.
00:23:57.040 Unfortunately, I've heard from all across the state that even though the governor has banned
00:24:01.100 this, this nonsense is still being taught.
00:24:03.340 They're still using textbooks that use it.
00:24:05.300 So we're going to have to go a step further.
00:24:06.700 You know, the critical race theory, unfortunately, this has been around for a long time and only
00:24:10.860 just recently kind of bubbled into public view.
00:24:13.500 But this, this is a worldview.
00:24:15.220 In fact, I just finished reading an incredible book by Votie Baucom, one of the best known
00:24:19.620 evangelical pastors here in America.
00:24:21.300 Now he actually lives in Africa.
00:24:23.080 He, he runs the African Christian University.
00:24:26.040 But he wrote this incredible book called Fault Lines and he calls this a demonic cult.
00:24:30.660 Um, you know, and this is a mainstream, very well-known pastor.
00:24:34.080 He says, this is a worldview.
00:24:35.440 And the problem is many of our teachers have been infected.
00:24:38.000 This is how they see the world.
00:24:39.320 Now it is of course, a Marxist worldview.
00:24:42.240 Um, I interviewed a wonderful lady from China, uh, Lily Tang Williams.
00:24:46.220 I serve on a board with her and she said, this is exactly the same kind of stuff that Chairman
00:24:50.020 Mao did in China.
00:24:51.520 Uh, he, he got the kids, he divided them up.
00:24:53.820 He forced them all into these indoctrination centers called public schools.
00:24:56.660 Then he divided them up into two classes.
00:24:58.740 You had the black classes and the red classes.
00:25:00.820 Uh, the black classes were the bad ones.
00:25:02.720 They were the ones who were counter-revolutionaries, landowners, business owners, middle-class people,
00:25:07.420 uh, Christians, uh, and so on.
00:25:09.180 And then you had the red classes.
00:25:10.340 These were the landless peasants, the revolutionary soldiers, the communist party members.
00:25:14.500 Uh, and so you divide the kids up into two classes.
00:25:17.520 They actually would force the kids in the black classes to stand up in front of the class.
00:25:21.520 And do what they called self-criticism.
00:25:23.560 We're seeing the exact same kind of stuff here.
00:25:25.680 They're forcing, uh, children of European heritage or even Christian children to stand
00:25:29.740 up in front of the class and apologize for their privilege.
00:25:32.840 Uh, and what, uh, Lily said is look, you know, it didn't happen right away, but within
00:25:36.360 a few years, the blood started flowing, right?
00:25:38.540 You divide people up into oppressed and oppressors.
00:25:41.020 And it's of course a Marxist way of looking at things.
00:25:43.660 So Trump did try to get a handle on this at the federal level.
00:25:46.440 He banned a critical race theory trainings and indoctrination of federal employees.
00:25:50.220 I'm very glad that Ron DeSantis has, has started the process here in Florida, but this is going
00:25:54.960 to be a very, very tough issue to crack because when a large segment of your teachers and a
00:26:01.040 large segment of your textbooks use critical race theory as the lens through which they
00:26:05.940 understand everything.
00:26:07.380 Um, it's not like you could just wave a magic wand and get rid of it.
00:26:10.680 It's going to be a long process.
00:26:12.320 Um, I'm glad now that parents are speaking out.
00:26:14.520 I'm glad now that other governors have followed Ron DeSantis's lead and are speaking out as well,
00:26:18.500 but this is going to be a very long, very difficult, very arduous process to get this
00:26:23.720 out, assuming it's even possible at this point.
00:26:26.420 Now, I think that brings me to, um, something that you are doing outside of your journalism
00:26:32.020 work.
00:26:32.680 Um, because as you rightly point out, this is so entrenched in the school system.
00:26:36.860 It's going to take so long to weed out.
00:26:39.940 So, you know, why send your kids every day to some sort of Marxist struggle section, session
00:26:46.320 masquerading as school?
00:26:47.940 Why don't you just homeschool them?
00:26:49.560 So why don't you tell us a little bit about your, the work that you do in, uh, helping
00:26:53.840 parents understand that they are able to homeschool their kids and, and do it well.
00:27:00.680 Yeah.
00:27:01.160 Well, thank you so much, Sheila, for the, for the opportunity.
00:27:03.020 And, uh, there's some really good news on that front.
00:27:05.100 Our census bureau just released some data, uh, very recently, and they found that the
00:27:08.940 number of homeschool families has more than doubled since the pandemic started.
00:27:12.140 We've now, we've gone from like 5.6% of families with school-aged children to now approaching
00:27:16.720 12%.
00:27:17.720 Uh, very, very good news.
00:27:19.520 Plus we see, uh, enrollment in private schools picking up, uh, meanwhile, enrollment in these
00:27:23.540 government indoctrination centers is collapsing.
00:27:25.720 And so this has been a passion of mine for a long time.
00:27:28.280 Uh, I started writing about common core when they tried to nationalize our education standards
00:27:32.740 back in 2012, 2013, uh, 2014 and 15, we wrote a book called crimes of the educators.
00:27:38.940 Uh, and that's when it really hit me that all these other issues that people are concerned
00:27:42.760 about, that people care about, um, education runs through all of them.
00:27:46.280 Uh, and if we continue allowing the overwhelming majority of our children to be indoctrinated,
00:27:50.780 to hate their parents, hate America, hate our constitution, hate their church, hate God.
00:27:55.860 Uh, we are going to lose these battles in the longterm.
00:27:59.960 And so, uh, to that end, uh, we've, we've done a lot of different things.
00:28:03.240 We've now produced a special report in the new American magazine called rescuing our children.
00:28:07.000 I did a speaking tour through the United States, basically just showing parents what's going
00:28:10.640 on in the public school system and showing them that homeschooling is it works.
00:28:14.420 It's amazing.
00:28:15.460 Homeschool kids are just running circles around the victims of government schools.
00:28:18.820 And now we've finally started a, uh, an organization to raise awareness about this, to work with
00:28:23.820 churches on this is called public school exit.
00:28:26.100 You can find us at public school exit.com.
00:28:28.220 And our goal is to show parents and to show pastors what's happening in the public schools
00:28:33.000 and show them that there are great alternatives out there that don't involve government.
00:28:37.180 You don't need to hand your children over to the government for 12 years, for five days
00:28:41.620 a week, uh, for them to become educated.
00:28:43.980 In fact, just the opposite is happening and you don't have to believe me.
00:28:46.440 The government has the data.
00:28:47.940 They'll proudly tell you that less than one third of the children in government schools are
00:28:52.620 actually proficient in anything, Sheila.
00:28:55.380 And, you know, that's why parents think they're sending their kids to learn how to read, write,
00:28:58.180 do math, science, history.
00:28:59.500 And the government itself admits they don't know how to do those things.
00:29:03.440 They do know man-made global warming hypothesis inside and out.
00:29:06.640 They know, uh, gender theory.
00:29:08.340 Uh, they know that, uh, uh, people are oppressors and people are oppressed.
00:29:12.700 You know, you have cisgender privilege.
00:29:14.040 Uh, but when it comes to the actual things, parents expect their children to learn, they're not
00:29:18.060 learning it.
00:29:18.540 So for me, it's a big passion and I hope parents, you know, I'm a parent, I've got five children.
00:29:23.300 Um, I, I think it's critical that parents understand, um, there are other options out
00:29:28.220 there.
00:29:28.440 You don't have to sacrifice your children on the altar of convenience.
00:29:31.500 You don't have to follow the lemmings over the cliff.
00:29:34.120 Start by protecting your own children and then sound the alarm.
00:29:37.380 You know what?
00:29:38.220 I think that's one of the things that might come out of this pandemic besides, you know,
00:29:42.100 economic devastation and the stripping of civil liberties.
00:29:44.600 But let's put that aside for a second.
00:29:47.460 And, uh, you know, um, that parents now realize that you don't have to be, uh, you know, a
00:29:55.640 teacher to teach your kids.
00:29:57.040 You're the first best educator of your child.
00:29:59.440 The times in which your child is making the greatest strides in their development, you
00:30:04.280 were there, you were the one teaching that.
00:30:06.420 And, you know, I think that convenience argument now can also go out the window because parents,
00:30:12.880 a lot of parents who've had their kids out of school because of the pandemic, um, they've
00:30:17.560 realized that, you know what, we can sort of structure our children's learning around
00:30:22.120 everything else that we're doing and what could be more convenient than that.
00:30:26.860 Instead of stopping what we're doing, sending the kid to school, coming home and then planning
00:30:31.560 our lives around school.
00:30:34.700 Yeah.
00:30:35.520 Education and school fit to like education and life fit together when you're homeschooling
00:30:41.120 now.
00:30:41.900 Yeah, they do.
00:30:42.680 And that's what a lot of parents have realized.
00:30:44.480 I've gotten so many emails from, you know, moms and dads who say, you know, I saw what
00:30:48.420 they were teaching my kids in the zoom, right?
00:30:49.980 A lot of kids did government school at home for a time.
00:30:52.220 Uh, they said, I was horrified by that.
00:30:53.940 And so we started homeschooling and we realized, Hey, we can do it.
00:30:56.420 And it's fun.
00:30:56.980 And our family's stronger and our children are happier and they're learning more and they're
00:31:00.360 becoming more respectful.
00:31:01.420 And, you know, now we're doing co-op.
00:31:02.880 And so now they've got lots of new friends and these friends are a positive influence.
00:31:05.980 They're not pestering them to, to go, uh, you know, take drugs and fornicate and,
00:31:09.320 you know, whatever, uh, so it's just, there, there's so many benefits to this, uh, not just
00:31:13.640 for the individual children.
00:31:14.640 I tell you, when you look at homeschool families, they tend to be some of the strongest, happiest
00:31:18.780 families.
00:31:19.600 Uh, and there's a good reason for that.
00:31:21.320 Right.
00:31:21.580 I, so I just can't encourage people strongly enough to, to look into this, look into your
00:31:26.340 options.
00:31:26.900 Yeah.
00:31:27.000 I know you went to government school and you think you came out fine back in the 1970s
00:31:30.980 or eighties or nineties or whatever it is.
00:31:32.600 Uh, it's getting worse by the moment.
00:31:34.480 Uh, critical race theory is just the tip of the iceberg.
00:31:37.140 Uh, it's just all around a disaster.
00:31:40.160 And again, you don't have to believe, uh, Sheila and I just look at the government's
00:31:43.640 own data on what this public school system is doing to our kids and recognize that there
00:31:48.060 are other options and, and maybe homeschooling is right for you.
00:31:51.200 Maybe there's a good private school in your neighborhood, but there's gotta be some sort
00:31:54.640 of non-government option where your children can do much better and actually thrive and
00:31:59.100 flourish.
00:32:00.420 Alex, why don't you give us, uh, some of the other places where people can find the work
00:32:04.700 that you do and support the work that you do.
00:32:07.220 Uh, thank you so much, Sheila.
00:32:08.280 So, uh, my personal website is liberty sentinel.org.
00:32:11.940 Uh, that's kind of my blog and that's my company where I do different things.
00:32:15.440 Uh, then, uh, I'm a senior editor at the new American.
00:32:18.200 You can go to the new American.com.
00:32:19.740 If you want that special report, I mentioned on education is the new American.com forward
00:32:23.600 slash rescuing our children.
00:32:25.820 Uh, you can get it in PDF if you live in Canada, so you don't have to worry about shipping.
00:32:29.400 Uh, we have a sequel that'll be coming out this summer.
00:32:31.620 We're actually just wrapping it up right now because things got so much crazier in the
00:32:34.940 last two years.
00:32:36.000 Uh, I've done a whole series over at the Epic times on the history of the public school
00:32:39.680 system.
00:32:40.060 You can find those there and, uh, yeah, it's kind of a good start.
00:32:43.580 And thank you so much for having me on, Sheila.
00:32:45.080 Thank you for what you're doing.
00:32:46.620 Uh, you know, the, the reporting you guys are doing at rebel media and, and especially focusing
00:32:50.840 on what's happening with these pastors, you know, the world thanks you, you know, everybody
00:32:54.760 owes you guys a debt of gratitude.
00:32:56.200 It's just phenomenal what you're doing.
00:32:57.760 And the fact that PayPal has now banned you speaks volumes as to how effective you are
00:33:02.420 in crushing their lies and their propaganda.
00:33:05.240 Well, Alex, thank you so much for your kind words.
00:33:06.960 Thank you so much for being so generous with your time.
00:33:09.060 And we'll have you back on again, on again, very, very soon.
00:33:11.680 You're always very popular with, uh, rebel viewers.
00:33:15.180 Thank you so much, Sheila.
00:33:16.460 Thanks, Alex.
00:33:17.000 You know, I'm so happy for Florida that they have somebody like DeSantis who is carrying
00:33:31.440 on that Trump-ish legacy of not being scared of the mainstream media and instead doing what's
00:33:37.320 right for the people who voted for him.
00:33:39.580 And now with Florida as a case study, conservative politicians around the world, and especially
00:33:45.780 here in Canada, in Alberta, Ontario, Manitoba, and Saskatchewan, well, they all owe their citizens
00:33:52.160 an apology for what they've done to our lives, to our businesses, to our children, and to our
00:33:58.660 freedom.
00:33:59.120 Because these politicians allowed themselves to be manipulated by fear and public pressure
00:34:05.220 from every special interest group, except the people who voted them into power.
00:34:13.320 Will we ever get that apology?
00:34:15.580 I'm not holding my breath.
00:34:17.660 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.
00:34:19.200 Thank you so much for tuning in.
00:34:20.440 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.
00:34:23.880 And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.
00:34:29.120 I'll see you next week.