Rebel News Podcast - April 10, 2019


What the mainstream media isn’t telling you about Quebec’s proposed anti-niqab law


Episode Stats

Length

44 minutes

Words per Minute

155.99132

Word Count

6,897

Sentence Count

559

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

67


Summary

Quebec's proposed ban on burqas and hijabs in public service is racist and ethnic cleansing. But who's leading the charge against it? A bunch of left-wing Jews from the suburbs of Montreal and other Jewish enclaves.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey Rebels, I got a edumacational show today, I think.
00:00:05.240 I go through Bill 21, which is the Quebec Bill.
00:00:11.400 I call it a burka ban, but it doesn't actually ban burkas except for in the public service.
00:00:16.180 It's actually called an act to confirm it from the laicity, the secularism of Quebec.
00:00:23.100 I'm going to read you some portions of the bill.
00:00:25.320 Now, don't click away now.
00:00:26.760 It's more interesting than it sounds.
00:00:28.620 And I'm going to show you who the leaders of the charge against the bill are.
00:00:34.180 And I think that is the most infuriating part of it all.
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00:01:12.800 All right.
00:01:13.080 Without further to do, here is my show.
00:01:15.060 Tonight, what the mainstream media isn't telling you about Quebec's proposed anti-burka law.
00:01:25.220 It's April 9th and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:29.740 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:33.520 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:37.260 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing is because it's my
00:01:42.200 bloody right to do so.
00:01:43.480 It's unanimous.
00:01:50.680 Quebec's new anti-burka law called Bill 21 is racist.
00:01:54.800 Not just racist.
00:01:55.700 It is, get this, ethnic cleansing.
00:01:58.740 Here's a Montreal area mayor named Bill Steinberg at a press conference with other political
00:02:04.320 leaders.
00:02:05.100 Steinberg said, quote, this is ethnic cleansing, not with a gun, but with a law.
00:02:11.800 It is racist.
00:02:14.300 Whoa.
00:02:15.300 Did you know that we do ethnic cleansing in Canada in 2019?
00:02:19.380 Not with a gun, but still.
00:02:22.140 If you look at that little press conference, something immediately stands out, at least
00:02:25.660 it did to me.
00:02:27.220 You got Bill Steinberg.
00:02:28.940 He's the mayor of Hampstead.
00:02:30.280 You got Mitchell Brownstein.
00:02:31.500 He's the mayor of a small municipality called Code St. Luke.
00:02:33.800 You got a liberal MP.
00:02:35.560 You can see him there in the middle there with the red tie, Anthony Housefather.
00:02:40.020 You got a staffer next to him who is with the office of a provincial politician named David
00:02:46.880 Birnbaum.
00:02:47.540 So they're all left-wing Jews from Montreal's Anglophone enclave.
00:02:53.760 I mean, seriously, I called Steinberg a mayor of Hampstead, but his town of Hampstead has
00:03:00.260 just 7,000 people in it.
00:03:02.720 My high school in Calgary had almost 2,000.
00:03:06.340 Now, it's a 91% white city, speaking demographically.
00:03:10.460 Now, there's nothing wrong with being white.
00:03:12.480 It's also 75% Jewish.
00:03:15.480 Nothing wrong with being Jewish.
00:03:16.480 I'm Jewish myself.
00:03:18.240 So this town, bigger than my high school, is basically a little bubble of unreality in
00:03:26.040 Montreal and Quebec and Canada.
00:03:28.080 It's the same with all of them.
00:03:28.980 Code St. Luke, I mentioned their mayor was there.
00:03:31.640 It's just a little bit bigger.
00:03:32.720 I don't know, about 30,000 people, Anthony Housefather, he was an anonymous liberal MP
00:03:37.480 until he disgraced himself as the chair of the Justice Committee in Parliament last month.
00:03:42.860 He's the guy who shut down any further inquiry into the SNC-Lavalin bribery scandal.
00:03:47.860 He's the MP from those parts.
00:03:49.720 So these are the folks who are saying that the Quebec government's proposed ban on burqas
00:03:55.860 and hijabs in the public service is ethnic cleansing.
00:03:59.420 It's racist, but without a gun.
00:04:02.720 It's weird and it's masochistic.
00:04:05.320 These liberal, white, rich, Anglo-Jews living in their little ethnic bubble in the larger
00:04:14.700 city of Montreal.
00:04:16.100 Talk about living in a fantasy land.
00:04:18.180 In the rest of Montreal, outside the leafy, gated communities in Hampstead and Code St.
00:04:24.920 Luke.
00:04:25.080 Look, Islam is now the second largest religion.
00:04:28.780 It's more than 10% of the population in Quebec.
00:04:32.300 Arabic is the third most spoken language in Montreal, after English and French.
00:04:38.740 I know it probably isn't a factor in these little Jewish enclaves, but remember this, you
00:04:44.500 know, outside of those little Jewish bubbles, this is the reality.
00:04:48.220 This is a photograph of a state-funded daycare in Quebec, where the daycare workers are wearing
00:04:56.000 full niqabs, and those are just neighborhood kids.
00:04:59.420 Yeah, I didn't hear a word from Steinberg about ethnic cleansing then.
00:05:03.900 And here's the Jewish-Anglo enclave now saying they're going to stand up and fight for the
00:05:10.920 rights of women to wear burqas and niqabs in the public service.
00:05:16.100 I love this headline here.
00:05:17.600 It's in the Montreal Gazette.
00:05:19.660 Code St. Luke Freedom Rally to Join Groundswell of Anti-Bill 21 Protests.
00:05:25.680 So the rally is going to be held this Sunday, April 14th, in front of Code St. Luke City Hall.
00:05:32.940 Hmm.
00:05:35.060 Except there are no women wearing niqabs in the Code St. Luke Civil Service.
00:05:41.480 There are no women wearing the full ninja in Hampstead running daycares.
00:05:47.020 I checked Statistics Canada, actually, and after English and French, do you know what the
00:05:51.820 next most common languages are in that little Jewish town of Code St. Luke?
00:05:56.220 Stats can, I'll tell you.
00:05:57.180 Now, Russian is third, then Hebrew, then Yiddish.
00:06:05.820 Yiddish.
00:06:06.620 Three percent of people in Code St. Luke, Yiddish is their mother tongue.
00:06:10.000 I didn't even know Yiddish could be a mother tongue.
00:06:13.940 Isn't that the language of European Jews from pre-Holocaust times?
00:06:18.260 There's a thousand people in Code St. Luke.
00:06:20.240 Three percent of the town.
00:06:21.020 That's their first language.
00:06:23.420 How is that even possible in 2019?
00:06:27.360 Well, it's not, except for in this little Jewish corner.
00:06:32.280 Now, I have to tell you, if I ever moved to Montreal, I think I would want to live in
00:06:38.680 Hempstead or Code St. Luke.
00:06:41.160 If I could afford it, I don't know if I could.
00:06:43.240 But it's my kind of people.
00:06:45.760 They speak English.
00:06:47.220 They go to synagogue.
00:06:48.520 They send their kids to Jewish schools.
00:06:50.920 I bet there's some pretty great Montreal bagel places and smoked meat.
00:06:54.720 I would absolutely live there.
00:06:58.140 They're my people.
00:07:00.280 But that's not Quebec, folks.
00:07:03.120 And when the Anglo-Jews from Hampstead or Code St. Luke are rushing to defend burkas and
00:07:10.660 niqabs in the public square and daycares and public service, they're not really, because
00:07:17.280 there are no burkas and niqabs in their little shtetls, in their little Jewish ghetto.
00:07:21.540 It's the absolute summit of virtue signaling.
00:07:24.380 They really want other Quebecers, French Catholic Quebecers, to have burkas and niqabs in their
00:07:33.860 neighborhoods, because there are none in these Jewish neighborhoods.
00:07:38.460 I say, hey, Steinberg and Brownstein and Housefather and Birnbaum, you go first, okay?
00:07:47.280 You hire people in niqabs and burkas in your offices, in your Jewish schools, in your little
00:07:56.380 cute town hall in Hampstead for your 7,000 citizens, in your daycares, in your health clinics.
00:08:04.320 You go first, guys.
00:08:06.440 But they don't mean it.
00:08:09.180 But boy, are they ever carrying a lot of water for Islamic extremists.
00:08:13.260 It's so bizarre.
00:08:13.940 I say again, burkas and niqabs, that's actually not Islam.
00:08:17.600 That's radical Islam.
00:08:20.240 That's Islamism.
00:08:21.480 That's political Islam.
00:08:22.480 There are some very strong secular, moderate Muslims in Quebec who fight against Islamism,
00:08:30.120 political Islam, extremism.
00:08:32.900 The liberal Jews here aren't for them, though.
00:08:34.820 The liberal Jews here, weirdly, are for the extremists, just like they're doing in Europe.
00:08:39.740 And I don't understand it.
00:08:40.700 In France, in the UK, Jews are in some weird coalition with Islamism.
00:08:47.280 I don't know.
00:08:49.320 Maybe they think that they'll be the last one eaten by the tiger.
00:08:54.600 I don't know.
00:08:55.460 I just don't really get it.
00:08:57.020 But what's interesting is the rest of Quebec, Francophone Quebecers, they're just not shutting
00:09:04.860 up because these Anglos are telling them to.
00:09:07.860 Bill 21, this burka ban, it's actually the most popular law to be introduced in the Quebec
00:09:13.560 legislature in a generation.
00:09:15.860 It was actually introduced by the current CAC, Coalition Avenir Quebec government, to follow
00:09:23.140 on from the previous liberal government's bill.
00:09:27.800 And the Parti Québécois party in Quebec, they say it doesn't go far enough.
00:09:32.960 So you've got three mainstream Quebec parties who, amongst them, have formed the last three
00:09:38.220 governments in Quebec.
00:09:40.320 They all support this bill.
00:09:41.760 I don't know.
00:09:43.620 If I were an Anglo-Jew in Quebec, I'd probably do my part to be less separated, less ghettoized
00:09:51.820 from Quebec society, less of an ethnic separatist.
00:09:54.660 I'd want to join the main.
00:09:56.340 I'd want to join the Quebec nation.
00:09:58.260 And that's what it is.
00:09:59.040 I'm not talking about a sovereign, independent country.
00:10:01.540 That's not what I'm talking about.
00:10:02.300 I'm talking about the history, the language, the culture, the customs of the French-speaking
00:10:05.840 fact of that place to go back 400 years.
00:10:08.620 I would stop telling them what to do or not to do.
00:10:12.100 If I was the Lord Mayor of Hampstead with my 7,000 subjects, I don't think I'd be telling
00:10:18.180 Quebecers what to do or calling them racist.
00:10:20.900 How can Anglo-Jews who teach their own children, Hebrew or Yiddish, who send their own kids
00:10:28.300 to Jewish schools and Jewish synagogues and Jewish summer camps, how can they condemn
00:10:35.800 Quebecois for wanting to do the same, to preserve their Quebecois ways the same way these
00:10:42.040 Anglo-Jews are doing in Hampstead and Coat?
00:10:44.020 Say, look, what I would do if I lived in Quebec, I'd be there with them.
00:10:46.920 It's gross to me, this snobbery.
00:10:52.280 I'm Jewish and I want to preserve Judaism.
00:10:54.600 I'm Canadian.
00:10:55.580 That's my chief identity, but I am also Jewish.
00:10:57.800 I want to keep it going.
00:10:59.480 Why can't Quebecois preserve certain aspects of their society too, including having a separation
00:11:05.360 of mosque and state?
00:11:06.960 How's that ethnic cleansing?
00:11:08.600 It's got nothing to do with race or even religion.
00:11:11.680 You just can't wear ostentatious symbols of any religion now if you represent the state.
00:11:17.620 That's actually part of Quebec's culture.
00:11:19.520 What's that got to do with race?
00:11:22.580 It's got to do with Muslim extremism, I grant you, which the old fossils in Coat St.
00:11:27.080 Luke live far away from.
00:11:29.100 Well, I hope the gates in their gated community are really tall.
00:11:32.340 By the way, there was a rally for the burqa in Montreal, and it was led by Adil Charkawi.
00:11:40.340 Who is he?
00:11:42.320 Oh, no big deal.
00:11:43.180 He's a Moroccan-born Muslim extremist.
00:11:46.640 He was arrested in 2003 and held on an anti-terrorism security certificate.
00:11:52.740 Eventually, he was let go by police.
00:11:54.780 Despite training in jihadist camps, he radicalizes young Muslims.
00:11:58.540 The Moroccan government says he fundraises for terrorist groups over there.
00:12:02.520 I don't know if it's true.
00:12:03.340 That's what they say.
00:12:04.080 Oh, but no big deal.
00:12:06.020 I'm sure he's a good guy, a real natural ally for the Jews of Hampstead and Coat St.
00:12:12.060 Luke.
00:12:13.200 So, Adil Charkawi led the anti-Bill 21 march.
00:12:16.620 Let me quote from the Montreal Gazette of that rally.
00:12:19.840 A young woman wearing hijab who was interviewed on TV Sunday at the march organized by Adil Charkawi said,
00:12:29.700 Quebec is not a country.
00:12:31.060 I won't obey its laws.
00:12:33.700 Meanwhile, some people were chanting, Allahu Akbar, God is great.
00:12:37.540 So, these are the folks that the little Jewish enclave is standing up for.
00:12:44.200 Hey, guys, if you want to do some virtue signaling, buy a Prius, okay?
00:12:48.880 Don't support jihadists.
00:12:51.520 By the way, take a look at Charkawi's march.
00:12:56.100 There's no women allowed to stand next to the men in the first rank.
00:13:00.320 They're off to the sides.
00:13:01.420 That's the kind of separation that I guess is fine by the liberal Jewish Anglos, but not banning the burqa, that separation is not fine.
00:13:13.640 Can you do me a favor?
00:13:14.900 Can I do you a favor?
00:13:17.460 I'm going to read Bill 21 to you.
00:13:21.080 I don't know if these virtue signalers in Anglo-Jewish Montreal have read the bill, so can I read it to you so you know more than they do?
00:13:28.500 And not only will, I think it's, I think you'll support the bill, but you might actually want the bill for your own province, too.
00:13:38.700 So, let's just read the law, and you can be the judge of it.
00:13:42.000 Do you agree with these liberal Jews that this is ethnic cleansing, or do you agree with most Quebecers?
00:13:47.220 It's not.
00:13:47.720 Here it is.
00:13:48.360 It's called an act respecting the laicity of the state.
00:13:54.780 Now, laicity is an English translation of the French word for secularism.
00:14:00.300 It's sort of a French word.
00:14:02.120 That's what this bill is about.
00:14:03.280 The words Islam, or Muslim, or Jewish, or Christian, or black, or white, they do not appear in the bill at all, by the way.
00:14:12.420 Did you know that?
00:14:14.740 But sure, call it ethnic cleansing without a gun.
00:14:17.080 Let me read some of it to you.
00:14:18.480 I'll start with the explanatory notes at the beginning of this bill, which I think is pretty thoughtful.
00:14:24.040 Let me read it.
00:14:24.640 The purpose of this bill is to affirm the laicity of the state, to set out the requirements that follow from it.
00:14:33.580 To that end, the bill provides that the laicity of the state is based on four principles.
00:14:39.520 The separation of state and religions.
00:14:42.380 The religious neutrality of the state.
00:14:45.100 The equality of all citizens.
00:14:47.780 And freedom of conscience and freedom of religion.
00:14:50.000 Sorry, I can't find the ethnic cleansing part in there, can you?
00:14:55.220 Let me read some more.
00:14:58.000 Under the bill, personnel members of a body must exercise, that means a government body,
00:15:03.340 must exercise their functions with their face uncovered.
00:15:06.500 And persons who present themselves to receive a service from such a personnel member
00:15:10.540 must have their face uncovered when doing so is necessary to allow their identity to be verified for security reasons.
00:15:17.360 Persons who fail to comply with that obligation may not receive the service.
00:15:23.540 However, those obligations do not apply to persons whose face is covered for reasons of health or handicap
00:15:28.060 or because of the requirements tied to their functions or to the performance of certain tasks.
00:15:33.620 So, by the way, a hijab that's just a scarf, that's not banned with that part.
00:15:38.420 It's just a full ninja.
00:15:39.360 Ninja.
00:15:41.020 So, basically it's saying you can't wear a mask when you work for the government
00:15:45.420 or when you get services from the government.
00:15:48.520 Pretty much a basic element of all Western cultures.
00:15:51.600 In fact, there are laws in many jurisdictions against masks for reasons of safety alone.
00:15:58.020 Try going into your bank with a mask on.
00:16:00.900 Now, Quebec historically is a Catholic place.
00:16:03.200 And the bill says they're not going to erase their history.
00:16:08.080 Let me quote.
00:16:09.980 The bill's provisions prevail over those of any subsequent act unless expressly stated otherwise.
00:16:15.520 The bill may not be interpreted as affecting the emblematic or toponymic elements of Quebec's cultural heritage
00:16:22.380 that testify to its history.
00:16:24.140 Again, those are funny words translated from French to English, aren't they?
00:16:27.220 Basically, it says we're not going to knock down crosses and rename Montréal and things like that.
00:16:34.180 It seems sensible to me.
00:16:36.060 Let me know if you see anything racist yet, okay?
00:16:38.440 Let's jump into the formal part of the bill now.
00:16:40.620 These are the actual texts of the bill.
00:16:43.060 As the Quebec nation has its own characteristics, one of which is its civil law tradition, distinct social values,
00:16:49.100 and a specific history that have led it to develop a particular attachment to state laicity.
00:16:54.720 Okay, that's the preamble.
00:16:55.480 Can you doubt it?
00:16:56.740 More to the point, can any liberal like Anthony Housefather doubt it?
00:16:59.460 A liberal who has spent a generation telling us that Quebec is a distinct society?
00:17:03.500 That's all they're saying here.
00:17:04.340 Let me read some more.
00:17:05.780 As the Quebec nation attaches importance to the equality of men and women and men.
00:17:11.280 You know, I think most people still agree with that in Canada, but I'm guessing that in a few years to say that will be Islamophobic.
00:17:18.100 Okay, so far as I'll just throw clearing, here's the actual law.
00:17:22.100 That was a preamble.
00:17:22.760 Here's the law.
00:17:23.220 Section one, the state of Quebec is a lay state.
00:17:28.340 That means secular.
00:17:29.940 Two, the laicity, that means the secular nature of the state, is based on the following principles.
00:17:35.620 Number one, the separation of state and religions.
00:17:37.880 Number two, the religious neutrality of the state.
00:17:40.320 Number three, the equality of all citizens.
00:17:42.780 Number four, freedom of conscience and freedom of religion.
00:17:45.260 Okay, so what does that mean?
00:17:47.280 It sounds pretty good to me that the law explains it a bit.
00:17:50.180 Let me read some more.
00:17:51.700 State laicity, again, that's a funny word.
00:17:54.000 It just means secularism.
00:17:55.520 It means it's just not a religious state.
00:17:57.200 State laicity requires parliamentary, government, and judicial institutions to comply with the principles that they've outlined.
00:18:06.440 I just outlined the principles.
00:18:07.220 So you have to be religiously neutral.
00:18:09.220 You have to look religiously neutral, too.
00:18:12.540 We talk about racist, ethnic cleansing.
00:18:14.760 Where the heck did that mayor get that from?
00:18:16.240 Then the law lists various institutions that are covered.
00:18:19.160 And then it says this.
00:18:22.380 The persons listed in Schedule 2 are prohibited from wearing religious symbols in the exercise of their functions.
00:18:29.900 Pretty clear.
00:18:30.540 And you know what?
00:18:30.960 Pretty uncontroversial to me.
00:18:32.160 You don't see police officers pulling you over for speeding, wearing a huge honking crucifix on a necklace, do you?
00:18:38.880 No, because that's not a uniform man.
00:18:40.700 They have to be a neutral agent of the state.
00:18:42.200 Let me read some more.
00:18:42.780 Well, personnel members of a body, a government money, must exercise their functions with their face uncovered.
00:18:48.980 Yeah, are you shocked?
00:18:49.920 Let me read some more.
00:18:50.940 Similarly, persons who present themselves to receive a service from a personnel member of the body must have their face uncovered where doing so is necessary to allow their identity to be verified for security reasons.
00:19:01.780 Persons who fail to comply without obligation may not receive the service requested where applicable.
00:19:07.840 I'll read a little more.
00:19:08.720 For the purposes of the second paragraph, persons are deemed to be presenting themselves to receive a service when they are interacting or communicating with a personnel member of a body in the exercise of the personal member's functions.
00:19:20.000 Okay, I'm getting a bit technically here, but I can sum it up.
00:19:22.560 Take off your mask.
00:19:25.520 You're going to the driver's license office.
00:19:28.360 Take off your mask.
00:19:29.460 You're going to a government hospital.
00:19:30.760 Take off your mask.
00:19:31.680 You're in Canada now.
00:19:32.780 You don't have to be worried about the religious police beating you anymore.
00:19:36.800 You're free now.
00:19:37.700 You're in Canada now, unless you're worried about that here in Canada, too, about being beaten or attacked by some religious police if you take off your mask.
00:19:49.480 And if that's the case, then we have a big problem now, don't we?
00:19:53.560 Oh, and I think maybe we do, my friends.
00:19:55.100 I think maybe we do.
00:19:57.860 Maybe that's what the old Anglo-Jewish liberals are afraid of.
00:20:00.880 1.3 million Muslims in Canada.
00:20:02.760 Lots of nice folks.
00:20:03.660 Lots of liberal folks.
00:20:04.440 Lots of folks fleeing Sharia law.
00:20:07.700 But a fair share of Adil Charkawi's now, too.
00:20:11.100 Lots of Sharia law.
00:20:12.240 Lots of polygamous marriages.
00:20:13.940 Lots of Niqabs and Burkas now.
00:20:16.420 Here's how it went down in France.
00:20:18.300 Look at this.
00:20:18.860 A survey conducted in France in May 2003 found that 77% of girls wearing the hijab said they did so because of physical threats from Islamist groups.
00:20:29.840 That's 16 years ago.
00:20:32.860 More than three-quarters of women wore it just because they were worried of physical threats.
00:20:37.020 What percentage do you think it is here in Canada?
00:20:40.900 What percentage is acceptable to you?
00:20:44.380 Now, most of the rest of the law is technical provisions, amending other laws.
00:20:48.580 But then it lists the people who were referred to earlier.
00:20:51.660 I mentioned the different schedules or lists of categories of public servants.
00:20:55.760 You can see it basically covers all people who work for the government of Quebec.
00:21:01.380 This is the list of them.
00:21:02.960 Departments of the government, cities, commissions, schools that take money from the government, social services agencies that take money from the government.
00:21:10.040 And then Schedule 2 lists particular jobs, judges, prosecutors, cops, things like that.
00:21:19.260 And then Schedule 3 lists what they call persons considered to be personnel members of a body for the purposes of measures relating to services with face uncovered.
00:21:30.120 So this includes provincial legislators.
00:21:33.520 It includes doctors, dentists who take government money, child care places that take government money.
00:21:39.360 So this actually isn't a burqa ban.
00:21:41.580 I call it a burqa ban.
00:21:42.680 It's not a burqa ban, is it?
00:21:44.740 There will be as many burqas on the street in Montreal after this becomes law as before.
00:21:49.180 There will be women in burqas running daycares.
00:21:52.600 They just won't get government from the secular money from the secular government anymore.
00:21:57.880 That's why this law is called what it is, an act respecting the laicity of the state.
00:22:03.800 In that way, it's a bit of a cop-out.
00:22:05.900 But they're really only saying Quebec's government is secular.
00:22:10.640 They're too scared to say Quebec's society at large is secular or even just not Islamic.
00:22:16.880 They don't have that courage.
00:22:18.520 This is a tiny baby step.
00:22:20.560 No burqas on cops.
00:22:22.160 Okay, thanks.
00:22:22.880 You're so brave.
00:22:23.900 No burqas on doctors in government-funded hospitals.
00:22:27.500 You want to wear a burqa?
00:22:28.900 Fine, you can.
00:22:29.800 Just don't expect someone to pay you with tax dollars from the secular state.
00:22:33.380 So it's actually not as bold as you'll find in many other jurisdictions.
00:22:38.100 I mentioned France, where the burqa is actually banned in public in several Arab countries, too.
00:22:44.400 So that's the law.
00:22:45.440 That's Bill 21.
00:22:46.600 No mention of ethnicity, race, or religion.
00:22:48.840 I checked three times.
00:22:50.740 Other than all religions must be absent from the government equally, except for things of a historical nature.
00:22:56.820 Yeah.
00:22:57.220 Tell you what?
00:22:58.560 I'd like a bit of that law here in the rest of Canada, too.
00:23:01.200 And if those left-wing, self-hating Jews in Coat St. Luke or Hampstead love burqas so damn much,
00:23:08.280 I invite them to hire burqa-wearing extremists as their own kids' nannies.
00:23:15.960 Lead by example, you hypocrites.
00:23:19.080 And until you do, maybe shut up while Quebec is trying to figure out a way to save its 400-year-old culture, too.
00:23:26.760 Stay with us for more.
00:23:27.760 This is a message to Canada and all the American tawagheed.
00:23:45.820 We are coming, and we will destroy you, bithen Allahi ta'ala.
00:23:51.460 I made hijrah to this land for one reason alone.
00:23:55.800 I left comfort for one reason alone.
00:23:58.400 For Allah azza wa jal.
00:24:00.060 And inshaAllah, after Sham, after Iraq, after Jazeera, we are going for you, Barack Obama.
00:24:06.380 That is an excerpt from an ISIS propaganda video.
00:24:23.860 If memory serves, that was from around 2014, 2015, when ISIS was on the rise.
00:24:31.240 That's a Calgary boy, obviously, not born in Calgary.
00:24:34.820 But he became a Canadian, and as you heard him, he left comfort to join ISIS to rape, pillage, destroy, and set up the Islamic Caliphate.
00:24:42.800 Now, I think that man, Farrah Mohammed Sheardin, if I recall, I think he's dead now, but not before he wrought destruction.
00:24:51.640 And a new report by Stuart Bell and Global News has details and statistics showing that over the past several years,
00:25:02.940 Canadian terrorists, that is, terrorists who came from Canada, like that fellow we showed you there,
00:25:09.380 have murdered or wounded more than 300 people.
00:25:15.400 And joining us now via Skype from the West Coast is someone who actually worked at combating terrorists like that,
00:25:23.180 our friend Lee Humphrey, a Canadian military vet who is now the president of James International Security Consulting.
00:25:29.300 Great to see you again, Lee. Thanks for being with us.
00:25:32.380 Good to see you, Asher.
00:25:33.540 Well, thank you.
00:25:35.220 You know, seeing that Farrah Mohammed Sheardin there, and I think he was actually killed in combat,
00:25:39.820 but there were plenty like him who went overseas to rape, murder.
00:25:46.440 We'll never know the true extent of the damage done, but Stuart Bell has done some adding up,
00:25:53.260 and he's got a pretty big number, doesn't he?
00:25:55.740 He does indeed, and in fact, he's probably erring on the side of caution if, you know, we're being honest about this.
00:26:05.000 Now, the statistics from Global News, and I give them credit because these days, you know,
00:26:11.800 it's all in vogue to talk about the risk of the alt-right or white nationalists,
00:26:15.940 and I'm not saying that doesn't exist at all.
00:26:18.440 But Chrystia Freeland the other day announced, our foreign minister announced,
00:26:23.380 that the greatest threat in the world, she said, was neo-Nazis and Islamophobia.
00:26:29.300 She said that, but according to Stuart Bell, a Canadian-based terrorist murdered 127 people
00:26:39.800 and wounded 195, so that is more than 300.
00:26:47.380 I think that, and that's only since 2012.
00:26:50.500 That's a huge number.
00:26:52.440 That's huge.
00:26:53.440 I don't think most Canadians know that.
00:26:54.880 Yeah, so I find it disappointing, Ezra, that our foreign affairs minister would focus on one specific threat
00:27:03.540 and not understand you can focus your efforts on more than one threat.
00:27:07.940 Well, you know, the alt-right neo-Nazis, white supremacists are a threat indeed.
00:27:13.700 You have to look at the probability or likelihood of them using violence and then the impact of that.
00:27:20.620 And we have seen cases where they have done such a thing.
00:27:23.440 But at the same time, the results of Islamic terrorism around the world perpetrated by Canadians and others
00:27:33.340 at home and abroad are far, far higher.
00:27:37.440 They're far more likely, and the impact is far more deadly.
00:27:41.220 We're talking about large numbers of Canadians, some born in Canada, some who have immigrated to Canada,
00:27:48.480 and then left again to perpetrate terrorism around the world.
00:27:53.600 And we can't ignore that or pretend it doesn't exist.
00:27:57.220 Yeah.
00:27:57.600 You know, and the organization, we just saw a fellow there who was on a tank, I think.
00:28:04.140 So, you know, the geography, the military hardware, the collaboration,
00:28:09.600 and the underlying ideological justification and the moral support.
00:28:15.180 I mean, ISIS was not a...
00:28:17.980 I mean, it was criminal.
00:28:19.500 It was terrorist.
00:28:20.280 But it also had the blessing of its own religious leaders.
00:28:25.120 Now, we can say whether or not that represents the true Islam.
00:28:28.300 But they had...
00:28:29.160 I mean, their leader, al-Baghdadi, was a PhD in Islamic studies.
00:28:33.020 So they felt that they were doing things with the blessing of a leader.
00:28:38.500 I wonder how many of these terrorists who have gone abroad and failed,
00:28:45.760 because the Islamic State has basically been smashed over there,
00:28:48.860 how many of them are going to come back to Canada and try and pick up their terrorist project here now?
00:28:56.300 What do you think that...
00:28:58.020 You were mentioning probabilities and likelihoods.
00:29:02.500 Of all the cases Stuart Bell studied,
00:29:05.340 only 55 of them that we know of was the terrorist himself killed.
00:29:10.100 So we have hundreds of cases of Canadian terrorist murders
00:29:14.860 where the terrorists themselves are still alive.
00:29:17.500 They might be trying to come back to Canada.
00:29:20.280 Absolutely.
00:29:21.140 While the caliphate has been smashed as a physical caliphate,
00:29:25.620 the ideology hasn't changed.
00:29:27.340 We've seen Canadians that have gone abroad to work with Hezbollah,
00:29:32.580 to work with al-Qaeda,
00:29:34.460 to work with ISIS,
00:29:36.540 to work with al-Shabaab,
00:29:39.020 all Islamic terrorists,
00:29:40.720 but with slight variations on their interpretation of Islam.
00:29:47.700 At the end of the day,
00:29:48.920 their ideology doesn't change when they come home to Canada.
00:29:52.060 They still believe that using violence to achieve a political and religious aim is okay.
00:30:01.260 And if we don't take action against these folks the minute they set foot in Canada,
00:30:08.340 the minute we can get a hold of them if they're abroad,
00:30:10.740 then they are going to at some point attempt to recruit others and to continue the violence to achieve their aim,
00:30:21.600 which is this pure caliphate that will lead to a global dominance of Islam against all non-believers.
00:30:35.360 You know, I remember after 9-11, I'm that old, Lee.
00:30:40.920 I remember Canada struggling to update our laws and the United States also.
00:30:46.260 And one of the problems is when you're fighting terrorism,
00:30:49.360 or even if you're dealing with crimes in a wartime setting,
00:30:54.380 and of course, terrorists do not have the legal protections that a law-abiding soldier would have.
00:31:01.080 I mean, it's pretty apparent you can't use normal police or prosecution tools in a war zone or a terrorist zone.
00:31:08.280 You don't have the integrity of evidence.
00:31:11.040 The idea of beyond a reasonable doubt doesn't apply.
00:31:13.960 So we have all these laws on the books for almost 20 years now, Lee,
00:31:18.980 that make it enough that we prove someone went over there to join a terrorist group.
00:31:25.080 We don't have to prove what they did, that they supported a terrorist group in a material way.
00:31:30.140 That's all that has to be proven, because to prove who they murdered or who they raped in a battle is impossible.
00:31:36.860 Why haven't those laws that were actually drafted by the Chrétien Liberals back in 2001-2002,
00:31:45.840 why haven't those laws being deployed against returning terrorists?
00:31:49.980 I say again, you don't have to prove they actually murdered someone.
00:31:53.260 You just have to prove they went there or even just tried to go there.
00:31:57.480 Yeah, absolutely.
00:31:58.660 And that's really the crux of the matter here is we do now have sufficient laws on the books
00:32:04.720 as far as providing material support or attempting to provide material support to a terrorist organization.
00:32:12.840 And we have Canadians that have made videos.
00:32:16.360 We have travel records.
00:32:18.200 We have passport and immigration records.
00:32:21.260 But we need a political will, and that's where we fall short.
00:32:26.180 So the Justice Department takes its marching orders from the Attorney General,
00:32:31.840 and then we've learned a lot about this over the SNC-Lavalin case.
00:32:36.420 But the public prosecutors, they get guidelines from their political masters.
00:32:43.560 And unless the public puts pressure on the elected politicians,
00:32:49.480 then they're going to resort to being afraid, if you will, to use these laws that exist on the books.
00:32:58.440 And eventually, one of these individuals is going to come back to bite us in the butt in a big way,
00:33:05.880 and then we'll all reflectively go back and say, gee, why didn't we do anything?
00:33:10.360 We didn't know about this.
00:33:12.140 And that's not the case.
00:33:13.360 We do know who these individuals are.
00:33:15.940 We do have the ability to track them.
00:33:18.140 And we do have the ability to lock them up indefinitely
00:33:21.140 if under the existing laws, as you say, that were created during the Khrushchev administration.
00:33:28.860 You know, I've been watching.
00:33:31.580 I don't want to say it's coordinated, but the timing sure is funny.
00:33:37.460 How you have journalistic attempts to normalize ISIS terrorists who now just want to come home,
00:33:44.820 as if they regard the U.K., the U.S., Canada, Australia as their home.
00:33:49.260 They renounced their home.
00:33:50.800 They went to their, you know, utopia, ISIS.
00:33:54.280 It turned out to be hell.
00:33:55.840 Now they're—it's just amazing to me.
00:33:59.280 It feels like a PR campaign, especially in the United Kingdom.
00:34:03.080 There's this ISIS bride, Shemima Begum is her name.
00:34:06.620 And I can't believe the sympathetic coverage, these terrorists.
00:34:12.020 And the women may not have thrown grenades,
00:34:15.240 but they had Yazidi sex slaves in their house with their ISIS husband.
00:34:21.180 It's just shocking to me.
00:34:23.520 What should be done with people who are over there?
00:34:29.280 Do we have to take them back here and put them to prison?
00:34:31.980 Should we leave them with the Kurds?
00:34:33.520 What should we do to a Shemima Begum or the male terrorists who are now saying,
00:34:38.820 oh, I didn't really know what I was up to.
00:34:40.680 Can I come home to America?
00:34:43.240 Yeah, well, I think, you know, if I had faith in the existing—
00:34:48.920 that the existing laws that we have would be utilized
00:34:52.200 and that these folks would end up in prison for the rest of their natural lives,
00:34:57.780 then it would be much easier to accept that as Canadian citizens,
00:35:02.920 if they were born in Canada, they must be returned.
00:35:06.760 If they were immigrants to Canada, they've broken faith with Canada
00:35:11.820 and they can stay where they are and be dealt with by the authorities that captured them.
00:35:16.980 But I don't have faith that if they do return to Canada,
00:35:22.900 that they will be properly adjudicated and end up in prison for the rest of their lives.
00:35:28.100 And that includes the brides, but not the children of these fighters,
00:35:33.080 because they provided material support to terrorist organizations and their terrorist husbands.
00:35:39.580 So, you know, it's a catch-22.
00:35:42.880 We have the laws, but we don't have the will.
00:35:45.600 So right now, I'm more than happy to allow the Kurds to deal with this
00:35:49.720 and leave them where they are.
00:35:54.620 Yeah, I've got to be honest with you.
00:35:56.000 Not only do I agree with you that we wouldn't have the prosecutorial will to charge these terrorists,
00:36:03.220 I'm worried the reverse would happen,
00:36:05.320 that they would do an Omar Khadr and sue us somehow.
00:36:09.580 And Trudeau, I know he's made five payments now of $10 million.
00:36:13.900 The most famous is to Omar Khadr,
00:36:16.140 but there have been four other payments in the $10 million range
00:36:20.000 to other terrorists or accused terrorists whose rights have been violated.
00:36:24.400 I truly believe that these ISIS terrorists, if they came back,
00:36:28.760 would not only face no risk of prosecution,
00:36:30.940 but they would quite likely win the Trudeau lottery.
00:36:34.260 Last word to you.
00:36:35.400 Is there a lesson we should take from this study?
00:36:38.120 And again, credit to Stuart Bell and Global News,
00:36:40.940 because I think this kind of study is counter to the current liberal narrative.
00:36:46.140 What should we do?
00:36:47.760 What should we learn from this?
00:36:49.040 I'm just so glad it was reported.
00:36:51.920 Well, you know, I think first it's a wake-up call to Canadians
00:36:55.420 who somehow believe that we're immune from creating or allowing radicalization to take hold and take foot within Canada,
00:37:05.200 both with born in Canada Canadians and in our immigrant population.
00:37:11.480 And we need to recognize that that risk exists,
00:37:15.260 and we need to deal with it in the harshest possible ways.
00:37:20.900 When we understand somebody is radicalized,
00:37:23.960 when we receive notifications from imams or from family members
00:37:28.780 that are concerned about the direction their children are going in,
00:37:33.120 the government needs to do more than send a couple of people to try and talk them out of it.
00:37:37.740 They need to be really serious about what they're doing.
00:37:41.660 They need to dedicate resources to monitoring these people
00:37:45.020 and monitoring the circumstances that might have led to their radicalization.
00:37:49.560 If they do get out of the country,
00:37:52.100 they need to be arrested promptly upon return, held indefinitely,
00:37:57.700 and when the evidence is available, put on trial and sentenced to very long sentences
00:38:05.200 to deter future terrorists from attempting to follow the same path.
00:38:12.120 Yeah.
00:38:12.500 Well, I agree with you on what we should do.
00:38:14.740 Whether or not we will do that is a huge question mark these days.
00:38:18.020 Lee, it's great to have you back on the show.
00:38:19.320 Thanks for your time today.
00:38:21.280 Absolutely, Ezra.
00:38:22.100 Thank you.
00:38:22.680 All right.
00:38:22.980 There you have it.
00:38:23.440 Lee Humphrey.
00:38:24.220 He's the president of James International Security Consulting.
00:38:26.940 Of course, he is a military veteran himself.
00:38:30.440 Stay with us.
00:38:31.500 More ahead on The Rebel.
00:38:42.960 Hey, welcome back.
00:38:44.060 On my monologue yesterday about CBC's propaganda aimed at kids,
00:38:47.900 Deborah writes,
00:38:49.360 using children to manipulate and deceive other children for a political agenda is disgusting.
00:38:53.100 You're right, and it's so inappropriate.
00:38:57.600 And I saw that some of those child actors have Twitter accounts,
00:39:02.560 and I checked Twitter's terms of service,
00:39:04.500 and you have to be 13 to have a Twitter account.
00:39:06.800 So you've got nine and 11-year-old kids on Twitter with their propaganda,
00:39:13.320 which I guess, like, are they really even writing those,
00:39:16.380 or are they just weird, weird prompts for whom?
00:39:18.700 Who are their parents?
00:39:20.980 Who's setting this up?
00:39:22.200 I know for a fact that CBC would not put a child of tender years on TV saying crazy stuff
00:39:28.960 without the permission, cooperation, or even instigation of their parents.
00:39:34.700 This is a weird screw-with-your-mind kind of move.
00:39:37.800 I'm sorry, it just is.
00:39:39.760 Bruce writes,
00:39:40.860 traumatizing children is terrible and highly unethical.
00:39:43.240 Let's hope these kids grow up and realize that the earth isn't going to be destroyed by us
00:39:48.460 wanting to keep warm and go places.
00:39:51.360 Yeah, well, I think besides learning the cult-like language of global warmingism,
00:39:57.580 these kids are also learning something else along the way, hypocrisy.
00:40:01.420 Because they live in Canada, which means they burn fossil fuels to stay warm.
00:40:06.100 They burn fossil fuels to move around.
00:40:08.020 They wear items made of polyester, plastics, whatever artificial fibers we use.
00:40:15.280 So they're learning at a very early age not only the language of the climate cult,
00:40:19.840 but also how to make mental reservations.
00:40:23.160 I remember a few years ago I went to some big rally in Toronto called Jobs, Justice, and Climate,
00:40:29.680 and I actually bumped into Catherine Porter, who then was a reporter with the Toronto Star,
00:40:35.760 talking about how righteous she is.
00:40:37.900 And I said, do you have a car?
00:40:39.520 She said, oh, yes, I do.
00:40:40.880 And I said, well, why don't you have a Prius?
00:40:44.180 And they always, every single person in that rally had a car.
00:40:48.060 I remember to this day, I would always ask them, do you have a car?
00:40:51.440 Yes.
00:40:51.920 Why?
00:40:52.400 Oh, because I need it.
00:40:53.620 Oh, okay.
00:40:54.840 Anyways.
00:40:55.600 On my interview with Manny Montagrino, Paul writes,
00:40:58.440 Trudeau's legal team is weak because they have to put up with Trudeau.
00:41:01.500 He's very arrogant, very incompetent, and seems to get quite angry when he doesn't get his way.
00:41:07.380 Right.
00:41:07.800 Well, that's one of the tough things about being a lawyer.
00:41:10.300 I remember in law school, I first heard the shocking comment by a professor,
00:41:14.940 the client is your enemy.
00:41:17.140 I thought, what on earth are you talking about?
00:41:18.860 The client is our focus, are we?
00:41:21.240 Are we here to help the client?
00:41:22.660 And the answer was, no, no, they're not their enemy.
00:41:25.280 You don't hate them.
00:41:26.080 You just, they are going to undermine you.
00:41:28.120 They're going to undo you.
00:41:29.080 They're not going to listen to you.
00:41:30.340 They're going to go off course.
00:41:31.860 They're going to wreck things.
00:41:33.220 That's what the client is your enemy means.
00:41:34.900 It doesn't mean that you morally oppose them.
00:41:36.980 It means they're going to screw it up.
00:41:38.580 And imagine trying to be a lawyer, very slowly and calmly telling Justin Trudeau,
00:41:43.640 this is a bad idea, and him pouting and saying, do it anyways.
00:41:49.060 I don't know.
00:41:49.820 I can't imagine that Julian Porter, Julian Porter is a lawyer.
00:41:52.420 It's the dad of that Catherine Porter I mentioned a moment ago.
00:41:55.100 Julian Porter is a lawyer for Justin Trudeau.
00:41:57.680 I can't imagine he needs the money.
00:42:00.980 I mean, maybe he thinks it's cool to be the prime minister's lawyer.
00:42:04.460 It sort of is cool.
00:42:05.800 But not when you're writing such a dumb letter as that.
00:42:10.140 I don't get it.
00:42:10.960 I just don't get it.
00:42:12.080 And I'm not just saying that because I lean conservative.
00:42:14.240 I lean against Trudeau.
00:42:15.200 That is a dumb and crazy letter.
00:42:18.120 Grace writes, please stop showing that.
00:42:21.540 Catherine McKenna screeching about last summer clip.
00:42:23.860 I have to keep skipping over it to spare my ears.
00:42:27.260 Well, listen, if I agree with you, but part of what we do here is we look at the bad things
00:42:36.200 and warn and explain why they're bad.
00:42:39.100 I mean, that CBC Kids News, for example, it is awful.
00:42:44.120 I don't enjoy it.
00:42:45.320 It drives me crazy.
00:42:46.380 It raises my blood pressure.
00:42:48.320 My kids don't watch it.
00:42:50.640 But the reason I do is because I want to ring the alarm about it.
00:42:54.500 So forgive me for showing you the crazy stuff we got to know about it.
00:42:58.160 But no, I take your point.
00:42:59.620 It's just so screechy.
00:43:01.440 All right.
00:43:02.400 Well, that's our show for today.
00:43:03.200 What do you think?
00:43:03.600 Do you think it was too tough on those Anglo-Jews in Montreal?
00:43:06.640 I just, I mean, I looked up those little towns they're from.
00:43:11.620 They're like little Jewish shtetl is the word for the little Jewish towns in Europe.
00:43:16.560 It's like a kibbutz, like Hampstead.
00:43:18.040 I think it's 75% Jewish.
00:43:20.260 They don't have daycares run by women wearing the cabs in Hampstead.
00:43:25.780 They don't.
00:43:26.380 And so for these all-white, all-Jewish communities to tell the rest of Quebec
00:43:31.460 that they're not allowed to preserve the Quebec culture,
00:43:34.380 sorry, that's just a little bit rich.
00:43:35.660 And speaking as a Jew, I find it a little bit embarrassing
00:43:37.980 because Jews like to keep their ethnic identity, their religious identity,
00:43:41.880 their historical identity.
00:43:43.000 Why do Jews in Montreal get to do that but not Quebecois?
00:43:47.700 Anyways, you can let me know what you think about that in the letters.
00:43:50.980 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,
00:43:53.760 to you at home, good night.
00:43:55.220 Keep fighting for freedom.
00:43:56.380 Until next time.
00:43:57.380 黑 washed white white,
00:43:59.560 The good kibbutz hat has.
00:44:01.460 Goodbye.
00:44:01.740 Goodbye.
00:44:02.520 Sorry.
00:44:03.220 Bye.
00:44:03.560 Bye.
00:44:03.620 Goodbye.
00:44:06.160 Bye.
00:44:06.480 Bye.
00:44:06.900 Bye.
00:44:08.980 Bye.
00:44:10.760 Bye.
00:44:10.980 Bye.
00:44:11.720 Bye.
00:44:11.900 Bye.