What the Media Party won’t tell you about Don Cherry
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Sportsnet's Don Cherry's commentary on Remembrance Day in France was pre-recorded and aired on three separate occasions, but no one objected. And that tells us a bit about where the outrage mob came from. Sponsors!
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Hello, Rebels. I learned something last night, and that was that Don Cherry's broadcast was
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not live to TV. I guess I should have known that. It was pre-recorded, and in fact, it
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aired on three separate occasions over the weekend. And the reason that's relevant is
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because on none of those occasions did Sportsnet object. Not at the executive level, not at
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the show level, not even at the co-host level, Ron Judas McLean. And that's interesting,
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and that teaches us a little bit about where this outrage mob came from. I'm going to talk a bit
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Tonight, what the media party won't tell you about Don Cherry. It's November 12th,
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and this is The Ezra Levant Show. Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon
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consumer I know? There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer. The only thing I
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have to say to the government, the wire publisher, is because it's my bloody right to do so.
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So Don Cherry was fired for pointing out an observable empirical fact. Not a lot of Canadians
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wear Remembrance Day poppies, and new Canadians often don't understand the importance of them.
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I'm not really sure how you would even argue against either of those facts. Actually, I am.
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You would call Don Cherry a racist, even though he didn't talk about race. You could say he divided
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Canadians, even though his purpose was obviously the opposite, to unite us all in the custom of
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remembering our war dead who sacrificed. He wants to teach newcomers our ways. Watch this again. I
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remember when I first saw it on the weekend. I swear my first reaction was, oh, there's got to be
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another clip that got him into trouble. This isn't the one, obviously, because how could this be the
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one that got him in trouble? Is there another one? No. This is the one.
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You know, I was talking to a veteran. I said, I'm not going to run the poppy thing anymore,
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because what's the sense? I live in Mississauga. Nobody wears, very few people wear a poppy.
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Downtown Toronto, forget it. Downtown Toronto, nobody wears a poppy. And I'm not going to, he says,
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wait a minute. How about running it for the people that buy them? Now you go to the small cities and
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you know, you, you know, those, the rows on rows, you people love you. They come here, whatever it is.
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You love our way of life. You love our milk and honey. At least you could pay a couple of bucks for
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poppies or something like that. These guys pay for your way of life that you enjoy in Canada. These guys
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paid the biggest price. Anyhow, I'm going to run it again for you. Great people and good Canadians.
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They've bought a poppy. I'm still going to run it. Anyhow, I love you for it.
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Here we are November 11th. We're in Sri Lankan British Cemetery in France.
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On November 11th, I want everybody to remember when you're buying a poppy and you see row after row of our
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Canadian dead here. And I'm going to put here the visited Thomas William McKenzie military medal and
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bar Canadian field artillery died seven days before the end of the war, 27 years old.
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So when you're walking by and you see our great legions, guys standing there and they offer you a
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poppy. Think of all this. These guys gave their lives. At least you can buy a poppy.
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Here's what I didn't know about that broadcast until last night. Now, obviously,
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this segment he taped in the cemetery was pre-taped, but that first clip where he was with
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McLean, that was pre-taped too. The live commentary that Ron McLean said, we love you for it, and gave
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him the thumbs up, that was pre-taped too. Because of how their broadcast schedule works and the time zones,
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apparently that was actually broadcast three times that night with no incident. And what I mean by
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that is everyone liked it. No one was offended by it. It was Don Cherry being Don Cherry, being a bit
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of a character, talking the way he does that, that patented way. And what a great message. Let's all
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support the veterans and the legion and buy poppies and remember the war dead. Imagine a 27 year old
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dying just seven days before the war ended. How sad is that? Oh, and hey, new Canadians,
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get with the program and join us to learn our customs. They'll do a little teaching,
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which is something that in a normal country would be taught to new citizens anyways. But
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this is Canada and we don't do it, so Don Cherry does. A bit of a tangent. Remember that Syrian refugee
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who came to New Brunswick under Justin Trudeau? He was the hero in a documentary about how awesome
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Syrian refugees are. And then not long afterwards he was convicted of, I shouldn't laugh, of beating
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his wife with a hockey stick for half an hour. And he told the judge, I'm not kidding, he said
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the Syrian who was the hero of that documentary, who beat his wife bloody with a hockey stick for half an
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hour. He told the judge that no one had told him he couldn't do that in Canada. How was he supposed
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to know? Now that's deception, of course. That's, that's a lie. He, he surely sensed that he couldn't
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do that. He's not in Syria anymore. But technically, technically, literally, I'm sure it's true. I'm sure
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that no one ever said to him, you can't be a savage. You can't take a hockey stick and smash your wife
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because we all just, you know, we assume it. But how could you assume that? Assuming that someone
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knows something, that's only if we come from the same place, speak the same language, read the same
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books, have the same history, believe the same things, share the same heroes and villains, have the
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same values. There's a word for all that, culture. But we, we are told that Canada doesn't have a
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culture. We're post-national, Trudeau himself says it. The only culture we have is multi-culturalism.
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Diversity is our strength. It's racist and Islamophobic to tell a man he can't beat his wife with a hockey
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stick, so no one told that to the man. And he beat his wife with a hockey stick. And even in court,
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he was saying, no one told me. So how is someone new to Canada supposed to know why and how we wear
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poppies? If they don't know, don't beat someone with a hockey stick. What's that poppy about,
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this little flower? Why is everyone wearing a flower? No one told them. Perhaps if they came
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to Canada from a European country that was involved in World War I, but otherwise, how would you even
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know what a poppy symbolizes? What would even symbolize? Look at the top 10 countries from
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which Canada takes immigrants. Now, France is one of them. The UK is another way down on the list there.
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But the other eight, they don't know where Flanders is. They don't know what Flanders Field is.
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If you ask them what the Great War was, they wouldn't know you were talking about World War I
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in Europe. They wouldn't know what Vimy Ridge is. They wouldn't know what Ypres is. Few enough
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Canadians know that. How would someone who just came here from China or India or Pakistan or Bangladesh
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know those things? And who is teaching them? Well, Don Cherry is trying to teach them. That's who.
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But that's racist, you see. It's racist to say to newcomers, you love the good stuff. You love our
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milk and honey. But hey, spare a moment for people who years ago gave their lives to make this wonderful
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country. Let me teach you about it. Let me show you a video from a graveyard in France.
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So no one at Rogers Sportsnet was offended by this. No one was. It aired three times that night. No one was
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offended. Ron McClain was not offended. You saw him give him the thumbs up. We love you.
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The cameraman. There were probably several cameramen. They were not offended.
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No one in the control room. That's where the producers and editors were watching. Probably
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half a dozen people there. No one in the executive suites at Rogers Sportsnet who were surely watching
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their flagship show. No one in the whole company objected at all because there was nothing to object
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to. There was no real problem. It was not offensive. Certainly not more than any 85-year-old man is who
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says things that aren't exquisitely up to the minute of rhetorical fashion. He doesn't say it's lit,
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fam, or whatever the latest millennial jargon is. I think, let me give you an example of what I mean. The phrase
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is indigenous. It's replaced the word aboriginal, which itself replaced the word Indian.
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And if you say the wrong term, you're clearly a racist if you say Indian. Unless, of course,
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if you are Indian. Here's Chief Clarence Louis. If you're Indian yourself, you're allowed to use those words.
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Most Indians I know actually love Indian brand clothing, you know, the Indian motorcycle brand.
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They love to wear the Atlanta Braves ball cap, that sort of thing. I mean, why wouldn't you?
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Those show Indian-ness as something strong and cool. But if you use the wrong word, you're a racist.
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Don Cherry said, you people. But not in a negative way. He wasn't talking to anyone out there
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who was of this race or that race. He was saying, you people who aren't wearing poppies.
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Newcomers, let me help show you. But is that racist? Where's the race part? Of course,
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that's not racist. But he wasn't exquisitely perfect. He was like someone saying aboriginal
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instead of indigenous. He wasn't quite fashionable enough. Of course, of course, what he did was not
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racist. And no one real thought so. And no one really thought so. It took help from professional
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liars, professional offense takers, like Don Cherry's longtime rival at the CBC, Peter Mansbridge.
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He said, the notion that Canada's veterans were all white is dangerously wrong and an insult to
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thousands, says Peter Mansbridge. Who said any of those things, liar?
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Puppy-wearing newcomers challenge now fired Don Cherry's immigrant rant. What immigration rant?
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Challenge what? Here, watch it again. You know, I was talking to a veteran. I said,
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I'm not going to run the poppy thing anymore because what's the sense? I live in Mississauga.
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Nobody wears, very few people wear a poppy. Downtown Toronto, forget it. Downtown Toronto,
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nobody wears a poppy. And I'm not going to, he says, wait a minute. How about running it for the
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people that buy them? Now you go to the small cities and you know, you know, those, the roads on roads,
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you people love you. They come here, whatever it is. You love our way of life. You love our milk and
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honey. At least you can pay a couple of bucks for poppies or something like that. These guys pay
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for your way of life that you enjoy in Canada. These guys paid the biggest price. Anyhow,
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I'm going to run it again for you. Great people and good Canadians that bought a poppy. I'm still
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going to run it. Anyhow, love you for it. Yeah. Where was the racist part? Where was the no
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immigrants part? You're lying again, CBC. You just can't stop lying. I saw the Canadian Legion
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actually try to embarrass and slander Don Cherry. Look at this tweet from their official account.
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Mr. Cherry's personal opinion was hurtful, divisive, and in no way condoned by the Legion.
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Oh, we do remain appreciative of his passion and support for veterans though. First of all,
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no one said you condoned it, you busybodies. Second of all, you're almost as disloyal as Ron
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McLean, who disparaged Don Cherry to please his corporate masters and save his own job.
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I wanted to address what happened last night on hockey night in Canada. Don Cherry made remarks
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which were hurtful, discriminatory, which were flat out wrong. We at Sportsnet have apologized. It
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certainly doesn't stand for what Sportsnet or Rogers represents. We know diversity is the strength of
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the country. We see it in the travels with our show and with hockey night in Canada. So I owe you an
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apology too. That's the big thing that I want to emphasize. I sat there, did not catch it, did not
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respond. Catherine Denise, it's on a First Nation, once said in any wrongdoing, the real key is recognition
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and acknowledgement. And I wanted to let you know that first and then you work on the relationship
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so that it isn't divisive, so that something can be a unifying event. Idle No More was a great lesson
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to all of us. Last night was a really great lesson to Don and me. We were wrong and I sincerely
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apologize and I wanted to thank you for calling me and Don on that last night.
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You Judas, you Brutus, you liar, you betrayer, you disloyal fake friend. You just said you didn't
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notice it. You didn't respond. Stop lying. We saw you. You nodded. You gave a thumbs up and said,
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that's why we love you, Don. You threw your friend under the bus to save yourself. You coward Ron
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McClain. You coward. At least we know why Ron McClain is disloyal. He wants to fit in at Sportsnet.
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He wanted to save his own job, which obviously was on the line. He values money more than loyalty
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or friendship or frankly the truth. It's true that he approved of Don Cherry's statement. We saw it.
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And Sportsnet did too. They aired it three times with no objection. What's the Legion's excuse?
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Who signed that anonymous attack on Don Cherry? I'm a member of the Legion.
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That anonymous Twitter account doesn't speak for me. Was that just a social media intern who approved
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that tweet? I didn't. I think the Legion needs to find out what's going on. I can tell you if there
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was a survey of Legion members, it would be 10 to one in Don Cherry's favor. I mean, there was probably
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no Canadian who did more for veterans and serving soldiers and the memory of fallen soldiers than Don
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Cherry. Can you think of anyone else who did? Who went over there as much as Don Cherry did at his age,
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mind you, into a war zone, mind you? Yeah, not the CBC. They don't support our troops.
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They support Al-Qaeda terrorists. I'm not exaggerating. They literally threw a champagne
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party for Omar Khadr. Look at that disco ball. They have disco ball. They have a standing ovation.
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Woo! Terrorists, we love you. Yeah, have some champagne. Champagne.
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That was Omar Khadr on the CBC this year. That's whose side they're on. Have you seen the kind of
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rage against Don Cherry? Have you seen that kind of rage against anyone who actually is evil? Instead
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of just maybe use the word imperfectly. Have you seen the media party rage against Al-Qaeda, against
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ISIS, against a foreign dictator in that way? Yeah, no, me neither. Now on paper, Sportsnet is a private
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company. But of course, in Canada, there are no truly private TV companies. It's owned by Rogers,
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which is a TV company and a cable company and a cell phone company. Other than maybe a cigarette
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manufacturer, there's certainly no other industry that is as closely regulated by the government and
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that is so completely at the mercy of the government. An unkind word from the CRTC, that's the TV cable
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cell phone regulator, could cost millions or even billions of dollars to Rogers. The CRTC are the ones who
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killed the Sun News Network five years ago. So yeah, I guess Sportsnet fired Don Cherry for business
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reasons. But really, when liberal MPs, including cabinet ministers like Harjeet Sajan, start tweeting that he
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has to be fired, it's not a case of free speech or corporate decision making anymore. At Sportsnet, it's about
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making sure your political regulator is pleased with you. And when liberal MPs say fire him, if you're regulated by the
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liberal MPs, you fire him. He's the editor of the Globe and Mail, the executive editor over there. His name is Derek
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DeCloet. He has a theory. He says Sportsnet just grabbed an opportunity to save some money. Cherry made a ton of money.
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He was long past his best before date. Everyone knew that. He wasn't going to retire on his own. Eventually, they were going to
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have to move him out. And then he presented them with the perfect opportunity to do so. Really? What you know, it was a
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$5 billion broadcast deal. What was Don Cherry getting a couple million bucks a year? And they didn't know what they were
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getting. And they don't know you just making that up. You can't sack someone like that in a humiliating manner, by the way,
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without paying them a massive severance. I'm sure Don Cherry had a meticulously lawyered contract with all sorts of built in
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protections for Cherry. Sportsnet couldn't claim they had no idea they were hiring a controversial person. They
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couldn't claim they were truly upset with what he said. They aired it three times in a row without comment. They
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weren't reacting to Don Cherry. They didn't fire Don Cherry for anything he did. They fired him because of the mob or
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more to the point, because the Trudeau liberals told him to. I showed you the tweets. No, I don't think Sportsnet did this
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to save money on their contract. They probably had to pay him out his entire contract to sack him.
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They fired him to please the Twitter mob, including the liberal MPs. Again, not because they're worried
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that Don Cherry fans are going to stop watching Don Cherry because you had a Don Cherry moment,
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but that Justin Trudeau would punish them like Justin Trudeau punishes anyone with whom he has a quarrel.
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He punishes them, even his own attorney general. I believe we're seeing what life is going to be
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like in a second term of Justin Trudeau. It's what life would be like in the United States had Hillary
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Clinton won. You know, the Japanese have a word. I haven't heard it recently, but it was all the rage in
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the 80s and the 90s. The word is kiritsu. Kiritsu. Here's the definition from Webster's.
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A powerful alliance of Japanese businesses often linked by cross shareholding. So a bank would own
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shares in a car company and the car company would own shares in the bank and both would own shares
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in the shipping company. You see what I mean? It's more than just a company. It's more than a clan or
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fraternity. It's less than a religion. It's definitely a big team or a big family and everyone's got each
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other's back. That's a kiritsu. Justin Trudeau and the social media companies, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube,
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and the news companies, CTV Global, Rogers, Sportsnet. That's a kiritsu. It's all an inside job. It's all
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friends. Ton Cherry just had to go. The liberal MP said so. And so it happened. The other part of the
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kiritsu listened to the first part of the kiritsu and the CBC helped. They backfilled it by
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manufacturing the fake reasons later. And who stood up for Don Cherry?
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Well, that's the thing. In Japan, there are rival kiritsus. There's more than one bank. There's more
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than one car company. It's an oligopoly. They're not a monopoly. Standing up to one kiritsu would be a
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different bank, a different car company. There's Toyota and there's Honda and there's Nissan. It's not
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just one big blob. In Canada, there's just one big blob. Andrew Scheer has been AWOL in this whole
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debate. He doesn't want to be Don Cherry'd. He made that decision long ago. He'll be quiet. I'm not
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saying he should have gone full tilt for Don Cherry. But how about even a reasonable, really moderate
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statement? Support for veterans, support for immigrants, and then becoming loyal, informed
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citizens. A real opportunity to say something like that. A support for free speech. You could find a
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moderate way of talking about this, but Andrew Scheer is too timid. He's lost his nerve. Not that he ever
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had much to begin with. He's terrified of this mob, the kiritsu that just took Don Cherry out.
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They're the same kiritsu he's tried to appease and please with no luck. Don Cherry was the last of the
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mainstream media pop culture conserves. He was the last one. There are no more. Trudeau knows it.
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The legacy media know it. Now they'll just go in and mop up the few irregulars left, probably like us
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here at the Rebel. We'll see. I guess my point is, you don't truly think that Don Cherry will be the
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last conservative to be silenced. Do you? Stay with us more. Up next, an interview I do with
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Yasmin Mohamed. I did it a few days ago, but we've held it until today.
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Welcome back. Well, it's been too long since we've spoken to our next guest, our friend Yasmin
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Mohamed. And the good news is she has been busy working on a new book called Unveiled,
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How Western Liberals Empower Radical Islam. And the book so far has a perfect five-star rating on
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Amazon. What a pleasure to have you back on the show, Yasmin. Welcome back.
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Thank you so much for having me, Yasmin. I really appreciate it.
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Well, it's our pleasure. I remember when you told me you were working on this book and it's out now.
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Let me read just one sentence from the blurb of it, and then I would like you to take off from there
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and tell our folks what's inside. But I love how it's described here. Ready? Let me read.
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Part Ayan Hirsi Ali's Infidel, part The Handmaid's Tale, Yasmin's memoir takes readers into a world
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few Westerners are privy to. As a college educator for over 15 years, Yasmin's goal is to unveil the
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truth. Is FGM, female genital mutilation, Islamic or cultural? Is the hijab forced or a choice?
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Is ISIS a representation of true Islam or a radical corruption? And why is there so much
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conflicting information? Wow, those are issues we think about all the time. I don't want you to
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give away all of the answers online. We want people to buy the book. But tell us a little bit about how
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you work through these issues. Well, I worked through them by basically telling my story. So it's a memoir,
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but also a polemic. So throughout my story, I'm also highlighting all of the other people around
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the world who have gone through similar things. So there are major themes, you know, like hijab,
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like the things that I mentioned there, FGM, child marriages, you know, all of the themes that you
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would expect to hear somewhere in the Middle East or somewhere in the Muslim world. And I'm just
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clarifying to readers that that kind of thing happens all over the world, because these ideas
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cross borders, you know, they don't just stop in the in the countries under Sharia. But the people that
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believe these things, travel to other countries, and they continue with having their own little,
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you know, mini Sharias, I lived under Sharia in my household in Canada. So, you know, the people that
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I relate to the most more than anybody are women in Saudi Arabia, because that was the life that I kind
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of lived. And it's unfortunate now online. I mean, it's fortunate and unfortunate, but we're,
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we get to hear all of the stories of all of the people all over the world that we really thought
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these kinds of things just happen in Afghanistan. No, they're happening in our in our very own
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backyards. Wow, little islands of Sharia that we don't even know about or don't even see. Well,
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I think we see them, actually, we have glimpses of them more and more on the street. Let me come back
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to the subtitle of your book, how Western liberals empower radical Islam. I think I know what that
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means. But I'd like to hear what you mean by that. Well, I think it's just that we, for some reason,
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we put our common sense on the back burner when it comes to Islam. It's the most ludicrous thing. So
00:26:27.940
when we talk about the niqab, for example, or the burqa, as it's sometimes called, so it's the full
00:26:32.340
face covering head to toe, you know, just eyes showing women are even wearing gloves. And a lot
00:26:39.000
of the times it's happening in countries where the, you know, the summers can go upwards of 50 degrees
00:26:44.240
Celsius. And we look at something like that. And somehow, people can say that that's empowering,
00:26:51.560
or worse, it's liberating. I mean, the most atrocious things like these are human beings covered
00:26:58.740
in death shrouds. And then you have somebody like PJ Harvey, who is a musician from the UK,
00:27:07.580
she goes to Afghanistan to film one of her music videos. And she said that her favorite part of
00:27:14.300
being in Afghanistan was wearing a burqa. She called it liberating. I mean, it's it just defies all
00:27:24.240
logic. They would never, ever consider it liberating if they were living in a country where they were
00:27:31.900
forced to cover themselves head to toe. They would be they would, I mean, for goodness sake, women here
00:27:38.400
are fighting for the right to go topless. But when it's women over there, somehow for them, it's
00:27:45.860
considered empowering and it's liberating. How are they any human, you know, any less human than we are
00:27:51.540
over here? We're all human beings. And nobody wants to be covered in a death shroud like that.
00:27:56.960
You know, it's funny, the phrase in the blurb, it's the infidel meets the handmaid's tale. I'm so
00:28:04.880
frustrated when I watch that handmaid's tale. And I don't watch it a lot. But I know it was revived as a
00:28:12.200
counterpoint to Donald Trump and the theocracy he wants to impose on America. And I haven't seen any evidence
00:28:20.940
of women being having their rights taken away in America and turned into nothing more than a,
00:28:28.740
you know, dehumanized pod from from male pleasure. I haven't seen that in America. But I believe
00:28:40.360
that's happening in places like Iran or Saudi Arabia. And yet all of the popular culture,
00:28:46.520
all of Hollywood is saying, ha ha, the handmaid's tale, up yours, Trump. They're not, they're not,
00:28:53.260
they're styling it as a American Christian Western problem. And I think it's a kind of placebo or a,
00:29:01.620
or a way of misdirecting away from the real. We have a handmaid's tale crisis in the world. We've had
00:29:07.800
one for 40 years. And in Iran, that's what I don't get, is how they can talk about the threat to
00:29:14.280
women's rights in America and ignore Saudi Arabia and Iran.
00:29:18.880
That is the million dollar question. And not only are they ignoring those women,
00:29:24.540
but they are actually empowering or supporting the oppressors of those women. Because when they
00:29:31.880
throw hijabs on every flat surface and every advertisement being sold in Banana Republic,
00:29:37.660
being sold at Marks and Spencer, when they do that, what they're doing is they are celebrating
00:29:43.060
this fundamentalism. They're celebrating this tool of misogyny, this tool that perpetuates rape
00:29:50.880
culture, this tool that gets women killed and imprisoned all over the world. And they're taking
00:29:56.600
this atrocious, disgusting thing and they're putting a Nike swoosh on it. So, I mean, it's bad enough to
00:30:04.560
ignore those women in Iran and to pay more attention to fictional women and to get all up in arms over
00:30:11.160
fictional women on a fictional TV show and to ignore the actual real life human beings. I mean,
00:30:17.720
that's disgusting enough. But then just the added layer, just the added salt on the wound of not
00:30:23.600
only are we going to ignore you, but we're going to support the thing that gets you imprisoned and
00:30:29.480
It's very strange. I have three theories. And let me just put them to you. Why would a Western liberated
00:30:38.800
woman, I don't know PJ Harvey, but I know plenty others who would say the same thing. Why would a
00:30:44.680
Western liberated woman support something so obviously denying and dehumanizing of women? And I have three
00:30:57.420
theories. One is that some Western liberated women are post-religious themselves, don't really have
00:31:04.900
a belief. And so they see Islam and they say, oh, they don't have the same spiritual void I do. I should
00:31:13.240
respect that because, you know, I can play act like I'm part of their community. I don't know, theory
00:31:21.800
number one. Theory number two is what I call otherism. I want to show how open-minded I am as a liberal. I will
00:31:29.480
take the opposite side of my own just to show how open-minded I am. I'm going to, I'm a liberated woman.
00:31:37.020
I'm going to support the exact opposite of my own interests just to show how open-minded I am. And the
00:31:43.680
third theory I have is they're afraid. They're afraid of being called Islamophobic. They're afraid
00:31:51.160
of being, who knows, maybe even being attacked. And it's sort of like, if I support the tyranny, will you
00:31:57.640
eat me last? Will you come for me last? I don't know what you think of those three theories, but
00:32:01.640
I'm trying to understand why a Western liberated woman would support a tyrant, not just any tyrant,
00:32:07.640
but a tyrant with a specific hatred for independent women.
00:32:11.440
Mm-hmm. I mean, I would love to be able to sit down with one of these women and actually get a
00:32:17.460
straight answer out of her because like you, it's very perplexing to me. And I also have thought of
00:32:25.860
those fear theories and others. And for each one, I mean, if you would just sit down with this woman
00:32:32.200
who thinks that, oh, these Muslims have a, you know, they don't have this spiritual void that I
00:32:37.840
have. Therefore, there must be something enlightened about them. Why doesn't she feel the same way when
00:32:42.720
she looks at Christians? She doesn't feel the same way when she looks at Jehovah's witnesses or Mormons
00:32:49.120
or Amish women that are covered up or in those insular fundamentalist Christian societies. She
00:32:55.500
doesn't get that same feeling. So what is it about Muslims that somehow they've, they have some
00:33:01.020
spiritual enlightenment that the rest of us haven't reached? Um, and then the second thing you said
00:33:05.920
about othering, I think you're absolutely correct about that too. There is like this Orientalism of,
00:33:11.920
you know, we see that a lot with Justin Trudeau with looking at others as if they're like this,
00:33:18.380
this quaint little, you know, um, noble savage, you know, he gets to dress up in their clothes and
00:33:27.200
dance like them and, oh, isn't this fun. Um, and that kind of othering is, you know, that's the
00:33:33.460
epitome of racism right there when you're not treating other human beings as human beings, but as
00:33:39.220
caricatures, as, as little characters for you to, uh, you know, pet on the head and, and be condescending
00:33:46.840
towards. And, you know, I just find this whole thing to be so insidious because those same women
00:33:56.020
that would support these things in other women would never support those things for themselves.
00:34:05.180
It's like, she would never want to wear hijab. She would never be wanting to live in a country
00:34:09.880
that treats her as a second-class citizen that, you know, controls her, every aspect of her life,
00:34:16.780
including what she puts on her body in the morning, you know, but for those women over there,
00:34:23.260
oh, it's lovely and it's wonderful and let's support it.
00:34:25.800
Huh. Well, we're talking about liberal women and in many ways, I think liberal women,
00:34:31.080
liberated women run the world in many ways. I mean, in terms of pop culture and in terms of
00:34:37.160
part of the world, consumerism and ads. I mean, even in a household, typically it's the mum who
00:34:43.540
would buy the clothing and buy. So these ads, like you mentioned, the Nike, the Reebok or whatever
00:34:48.920
those ads are, they're targeting Western liberated women who spend, you know, who do the shopping.
00:34:54.780
In terms of pop culture, consumer culture, retail culture, I do think women run the world. There's
00:35:02.860
other aspects that men run the world in. One of the exciting things for me, Yasmin, has been seeing
00:35:09.900
how you have access to the mainstream culture, including liberal pop culture. I mean, we here at
00:35:17.700
the rebel, we're conservative and we have a very strong flavor to the right. But so it gives, so
00:35:23.440
we're, I believe that we're your ally because we share these concerns, but from a hardline political
00:35:28.760
point of view. But what a delight for me. I sometimes see you interacting with pop culture, liberal, popular
00:35:35.900
journalists who are not ideological. And if you press them, they'd probably say they're liberal,
00:35:41.440
they're left of center. And I'm thrilled with that. I feel like you can break into this other world
00:35:48.300
that we can't. Can you tell me, how has your book been received by the cool kids, by the daytime TV
00:35:58.740
shows targeting the moms of Canada and America, by pop culture folks, not political activists like us.
00:36:07.460
Have you been well received by the mainstream women of America?
00:36:12.640
Well, unfortunately, the answer to that question is no. And, you know, a friend of mine, Megan Phelps
00:36:19.420
Roper, who left the Westboro Baptist Church, essentially her family, it's a church of about 80 to 90 people.
00:36:26.920
And she wrote a book and it was released around the same time as mine was just, you know, a couple
00:36:33.220
weeks after. And she's been on Good Morning America. She's been on Sarah Silverman. She's been,
00:36:39.740
you know, everywhere that you could possibly imagine. And, you know, the rights to her book
00:36:45.500
were purchased. The movie rights to her book were purchased before the book was even written.
00:36:50.180
I mean, you know, Hollywood's all over this. And that kind of difference between how she is being
00:36:59.800
received and how I am being received is really, you know, it's just like that clear indication for us
00:37:07.960
right now to see why is it that popular culture, mainstream culture is so comfortable talking about
00:37:16.680
Megan's story and they are so uncomfortable talking about mine. When both of us have very similarly
00:37:25.740
born and grown up and raised in fundamentalist environments and both of us were able to leave
00:37:31.880
those environments and are now talking out against the hate that was in those communities that we
00:37:38.700
left. So we have that in common. The only difference is the fundamentalist community that she left
00:37:45.420
was Christian and the one that I left was Muslim. And so there is, they're willing to embrace her and
00:37:53.940
they're willing to support her. But for me, anything that I say is Islamophobic and bigoted. But yes,
00:38:01.920
having said all that, there are some people within the left and within the mainstream media that are
00:38:08.940
willing to hear my story, but they're always very careful about it. It's not with open arms the way it
00:38:14.000
is for Megan. Right. Well, your book is described and I haven't read it yet. I intend to read it. I'm
00:38:21.740
very, very curious about it. And I'm, I guess I'm lucky I'm getting a preview briefing from you and then
00:38:27.820
I'm going to go and read it. I know that when we last spoke, you were starting to interact with
00:38:34.520
Ayaan Hirsi Ali, if I'm not mistaken. How's that going? Because there's someone who also has a story
00:38:41.140
of fleeing tremendous jeopardy. And last time I saw her, it was years ago. She had so much security.
00:38:47.540
I, I've, I've almost never seen anyone other than a head of state have as much personal physical
00:38:53.960
security as her. And I can only imagine the threats under which she lives today.
00:38:58.720
Um, has she been of help? Are you doing projects with her? She gets doors open.
00:39:06.220
Yeah, she's amazing. Um, and yes, she's been very helpful. She's been very supportive,
00:39:11.020
but for example, she got me in touch with her literary agent when I was trying to get this book
00:39:17.500
published and that went nowhere. Sam Harris, same thing, got me in touch with his literary,
00:39:23.300
literary agent that went nowhere. Um, what's happening is there is this because of, because
00:39:33.080
of Trump and everybody feeling like there's this rise of the, of the right wing and there's this rise
00:39:38.680
of Nazis. There is this fear of speaking out against any Brown culture or any non-white considered
00:39:50.400
non-white religion. Um, and so things have changed now. There's a, there's a very different,
00:39:57.460
very full of fear, I think out there in the, uh, literary world and in the mainstream media world,
00:40:04.420
nobody wants to talk about these problems. But of course, what ends up happening when you don't talk
00:40:09.180
about these problems is they just get worse. They'd only don't only get worse for the people that are
00:40:14.240
living under Sharia, but they get worse for you and me over here in the West as well. And we can see
00:40:19.220
that with the trucks of peace and everything. Um, we can see that with the rise of antisemitism all
00:40:24.500
over Europe. We can see that when you don't address these issues, they only fester. And so it's very
00:40:32.760
important that we have a nuanced take when we talk about these things. And that when we talk about all
00:40:39.640
of the issues with Islam and all of the oppression that it causes, that we're not demonizing all Muslims.
00:40:47.380
And we're saying, you know, nobody has ever said that, but that seems to be the counter argument
00:40:52.540
constantly, not all Muslims. It's like nobody has ever said that 1.7 billion people specifically
00:40:58.900
believe this. What we're saying is that this religion itself teaches this. And when it's being
00:41:07.280
taught to 1.7 billion people, a certain percentage of them will follow what their doctrine tells them
00:41:14.720
to do. And even if it's one or 2%, that's millions of people, that's way more people than we want
00:41:20.220
to be following that doctrine. So it's very important that we do talk about these things,
00:41:24.880
not just because of the victims all over the world, but for us as well in the free world and the Western
00:41:31.180
world, these kinds of things, there's, like I said earlier on in this interview, these ideas cross borders.
00:41:37.780
Yeah. Well, you know, you made me think of something that Majid Nawaz in the UK said. He is a Muslim
00:41:46.200
progressive. He's got a radio show on LBC. And he was talking about Tommy Robinson, who's, you know,
00:41:52.580
he's a buddy of mine. He's not everyone's cup of tea. He's a little bit rough around the edges.
00:41:56.980
And Majid Nawaz, here, let me play the quick clip. I'll let him speak for himself. Take a look.
00:42:02.140
From fear of appearing racist, there was a silence across the country as multiple cases
00:42:10.340
of grooming gangs emerged up and down the country, as evidenced now due to multiple
00:42:15.740
prosecutions, successful prosecutions, but sadly and unfortunately too late. If we hadn't all been
00:42:23.020
silent, if we had all addressed this issue head on when it needed to be addressed, when it was time
00:42:29.540
to address it, then the void would not have emerged for the populist agitators to fill that gap
00:42:37.060
and become popular, actually, as a result of addressing what is a legitimate issue. They
00:42:43.200
ended up hijacking what should have been the concern of every right-minded citizen in this country.
00:42:49.360
So his point, Yasmin, was that if mainstream establishment people, liberals, moderates, whatever,
00:42:57.680
refuse to talk about the prickly things. And in the UK, the prickliest are the rape gangs.
00:43:06.400
I mean, that's extremely tough to even say that word. If you don't say the word, you're never going
00:43:09.760
to deal with the issue. Because everyone was afraid of being called an Islamophobe,
00:43:15.480
only Tommy Robinson was talking about that. And like I say, it's not everyone's cup of tea,
00:43:18.820
but as Majid Nawaz said, well, where was the rest of you? And I think that there, I think that was a very
00:43:24.120
wise observation. Absolutely. There's so much truth to that. And the saddest part of that is while these
00:43:31.020
people, you know, whether they're the authorities or journalists or politicians, while they were
00:43:36.900
wringing their hands, too scared to say anything, because they didn't want anyone to call them a
00:43:42.840
bigot or an Islamophobe or a racist, what they were doing is they were essentially allowing girls,
00:43:51.140
girls as young as 11 to continue to be raped. So that's the thing that people don't recognize that
00:43:59.900
when you're too scared, when I was talking about before about you're too scared to talk about these
00:44:04.680
things, and it only makes it fester, and it only makes it worse. These rape gangs in the UK are a
00:44:09.880
perfect, you know, incredibly unfortunate example of exactly that. Yeah. Well, I tell you, I very much
00:44:17.500
look forward to reading your book, and I think the subtitle is what's so interesting to me,
00:44:21.940
How Western Liberals Empower Radical Islam. I hope that Western liberals will read the book. I'm sure
00:44:28.480
our rebel viewers who are typically Western conservatives will. We will make this video
00:44:33.800
available on YouTube, and we'll send it out to our people, and I'd encourage them to click the Amazon
00:44:39.240
link below. Your book is available on Amazon. It's called Unveiled, How Western Liberals Empower Radical
00:44:45.360
Islam, and I hope you have much success with it, Yasmeen. Good luck promoting it. You're always
00:44:51.100
welcome here, and I hope you keep us posted on your journey because we're relying on you. You can
00:44:58.240
say things having lived through it and come from it that we on the outside cannot, so we wish you much
00:45:04.040
strength. Thank you so much, Ezra. I'm going to send you a signed copy as soon as I hang up right now.
00:45:09.220
Okay, that's great. Well, good luck, my friend, and I hope this becomes a bestseller.
00:45:13.200
Me too. All right. Thank you. Right on. There's our friend Yasmeen Mohamed. The book is called
00:45:18.800
Unveiled, and you can get it at the Amazon link in the description under this video. Stay with us. More ahead.
00:45:34.560
Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about Remembrance Day and Sportsnet firing Don Cherry.
00:45:39.480
Andrew writes, It's ironic that Don Cherry got fired on Remembrance Day standing up for people
00:45:44.500
who fought and died for the freedom to speak. The only thing these corporate goofs understand is
00:45:48.720
money and hurt feelings. I will hurt their feelings by withholding money by canceling Rogers cable
00:45:53.120
and not tuning into Hockey Night in Canada. Well, that's hard to do if you're a hockey fan. You want
00:45:58.480
to watch the hockey games, and I bet it's hard to get rid of Rogers in your life too because they're,
00:46:04.440
like I said earlier in the show, they're part of the Kiritzu. They've got cable. They've got cable.
00:46:11.060
They've got TV content. They've got cell phones. They're like a moss covering so much of the Canadian
00:46:20.180
landscape, protected and subsidized by the CRTC. So that's why they bent the knee. That's why you'll
00:46:28.400
never see anything truly interesting or truly conservative in Canadian media because at the end
00:46:33.220
of the day, they may not be owned by the government like the CBC is, but they are just as controlled
00:46:38.900
by the government as the CBC is. John writes, Many Canadians are every bit as guilty as new
00:46:46.060
immigrants for not acknowledging our military history. On the West Coast, two immigrant communities
00:46:49.900
embrace the wearing of poppies at levels greater than the average, Sikhs and Chinese. Having said that,
00:46:55.060
firing Don Cherry was over the top. You know what? I take your point about the Sikhs and the Chinese.
00:47:00.820
I know that Sikhs have been an important part of the British Empire's military for hundreds of years.
00:47:09.920
In fact, Sikhs were disproportionately part of the British Army in India and served in various wars
00:47:17.220
around the world for the British Empire. I'm not as familiar with the Chinese-Canadian community,
00:47:22.220
although I have with my own eyes seen Chinese cadets selling poppies. So you're exactly right
00:47:28.320
on that. But empirically speaking, I think very few Canadians at all wear poppies. And I think it's
00:47:36.060
just a plain old fact that we don't inculcate Canadian values to newcomers at all. Don Cherry was
00:47:43.860
trying to do that. Lou writes, this sad event reminds me of sportscaster Damien Goddard,
00:47:49.800
who was fired by Sportsnet for tweeting that marriage was between a man and a woman.
00:47:53.820
The censorship of conservative voices must stop. If it doesn't, it will not end well for Canada.
00:47:58.180
I did sign the petition. Thanks, Lou. You know, some people think that it might be possible for Don
00:48:04.920
Cherry to get his job back at Sportsnet. I mean, we have, last I checked, over 65,000 signatures on the
00:48:11.400
petition. I don't think it matters. I don't, if we had a million signatures on the petition, I think,
00:48:17.580
I mean, listen, I want the names on the petition. We're going to deliver them to Don Cherry. We're
00:48:21.380
going to send it to Judas McClain. And we'll also send it to Sportsnet to let them know.
00:48:25.740
But even if there was one million signatures, is Sportsnet more scared of a million Canadians
00:48:32.140
or of Justin Trudeau? Well, the answer is Justin Trudeau, because he controls the CRTC and that
00:48:41.540
controls them. That's our show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel
00:48:47.260
World Headquarters, good night and keep fighting for freedom.