What will a Biden presidency mean for the price of energy？
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Dr. Jay Lehr of the International Climate Science Coalition joins me to discuss the impact of a Joe Biden presidency, and why he's more optimistic than I am about it. Dr. Lehr is a senior policy analyst with the ICC and the former Science Director of the Heartland Institute, and an author, speaker and author who has testified before congress.
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hello rebels you're listening to a free audio only recording of my weekly wednesday night show
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tonight my guest is dr jay lair of the international climate science coalition and
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we're discussing the catastrophic biden presidency and the effect that that will have
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going forward on the energy sector electricity prices oil and gas fracking coal he's more
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optimistic than me as you will see now if you like listening to the show then i promise you're
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what will a biden presidency mean for the energy sector and the price of energy in the united states
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i'm sheila gun reid and you're watching the gun show
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it's looking more and more every day like joe biden will be the president of the united states
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now joe biden has said that he is not for the green new deal but then he had the green new deal
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listed on his website i think joe biden will do whatever the puppet masters behind him tell him to
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do but his vp choice says a lot about his intentions kamala harris is a radical environmentalist who is an
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avowed supporter of the green new deal she's anti-oil and gas she's anti-fossil fuel and i suspect
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our american friends are looking down the barrel of a brand new carbon tax but that's all just
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speculation what i do know as a canadian and as an albertan is that joe biden has said that he's against
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the keystone xl pipeline which makes my problems with a biden harris administration a little bit
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personal because that is alberta's only hope for an export pipeline to tidewater now joining me
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tonight to discuss all these issues and more is dr jay lehr he's a senior policy analyst with the
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international climate science coalition he's a former science director of the heartland institute
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and unlike a lot of people having these discussions he's also an actual scientist so
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joining me now in an interview we recorded earlier is dr jay lehr
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joining me now from his home in ohio is jay lehr jay is
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the senior policy analyst with the international climate science coalition and he's the former
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science director of the heartland institute and unlike a lot of the people opining on climate change
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these days he's actually an internationally renowned scientist speaker and author who has testified before
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congress thank you so much for taking the time uh for this interview today jay now i wanted to have
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you on because you have written a very compelling article at uh america out loud is where people
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can find most of your work um most of your written articles not most of your work i suspect you're
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working hard every single day fighting for freedom and dispelling myths about climate change but you
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have a very compelling article titled joe biden's multi trillion dollar clean energy revolution joke
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um biden throughout his campaign sort of denied his links to aoc's green new deal but it was right on
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his website the whole time if anyone was interested in looking yes sheila he definitely is tied into the
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green new deal but the green new deal is ridiculous it can never happen and it has everybody up in arms that
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uh the biden administration we don't even know whose administration is their puppet masters behind him
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and uh kamala harris and it doesn't matter whether he's president or she's president the point is
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their presidency a socialist administration but it really doesn't worry me because uh you know there's
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an expression uh give him enough rope to hang himself uh sheila that's exactly what's going to happen
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in the next two years the democrat socialist party is going to have all the rope in the world
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to hang themselves and the rank and file of people in america who sadly may have voted for biden although
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surely at least 10 million of them were voting because they hate trump uh they will find out very quickly
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that uh nothing the candidate they voted for nothing good will come of it everything he does will be
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an absolute disaster he can't in my opinion in two years that group cannot do enough damage
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uh they'll do more damage to their party and in the 2022 election uh the united states will clearly elect
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a majority of republicans in the house of representatives so he's not going to have the house of representatives
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after two years he's not going to have the senate from the beginning the election in georgia
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on uh january 5th and 6th that uh there are two candidates up he can't possibly win both so the republicans
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will keep a slim majority of uh 51 49 or 52 48 which will block what he can do the kind of things a president
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can do is he'll rejoin the paris accord and give them billions of dollars that's going to make people
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mad he might rejoin the iran nuclear deal and that's going to get people mad he'll open the borders
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uh to mexico and a couple million people in the next two years will come in and most of them if they're
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allowed to vote would vote democratic but there really isn't enough that's going to alter the united
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states and they can't put a green new deal in place the green new deal says oh no more fossil
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fuel no coal no natural gas uh no oil have electric cars these are fine things to write about and talk
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about but they take years to accomplish if you read all the things they write they say what's going
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to be done by 2025 by 2030 by 2035 they're going to be long gone by then so it's very limited of what
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they can do his plan is indeed a joke as tom harris and i said on america out loud the green new deal
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is a joke it can't be done you cannot run either our economy in the united states or yours in canada
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on wind and solar it can't be done and everybody little by little will realize what a joke it is
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you know jay i appreciate so much your optimism there because you and i were talking off camera
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and and you said well you had a completely different opinion of what the future would bring
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uh because of biden than i um because as an albertan which i described to you as canada's texas
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our anti-oil prime minister justin trudeau i mean he he likes to position himself as the
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leader of the global anti-trump cabal really um he has put a lot of regulations and um roadblocks
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in place to the development of western canadian oil and gas he's basically landlocked us and so
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for a lot of us in alberta including the small town that is the terminus of the keystone xl pipeline
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we were really rooting for donald trump despite what the media will tell you about how canadians
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are so anti-trump that's not the case here um because he is a pro-energy and pro-energy
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independence president and he didn't leave us behind in that but for us it was very scary because
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biden said and he campaigned on it that he will cancel the keystone xl pipeline and for us right now
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that's really our only export pipeline to tidewater but you take a completely different position so i'm
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very happy to hear that well you've trudeau has had a few years uh advantage in making life difficult
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for the fossil fuel industry in in canada it's clear that biden will attempt to do all the kinds
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of things that trudeau has done and the oil and gas industry will certainly hate him for two years and
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they will throw uh their obstacles that will be thrown in their way so there will be some damage but
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it's just not going to be permanent damage you know you you're pointing out the keystone pipeline
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that could be one of the worst things uh he does but again he can just hold it up for a year or two
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when he loses the house which he will there's no chance think about the fact that the democrats said
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they were going to pick up a dozen seats in the house they didn't pick up one they lost a dozen their
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majority is very slim there i'll bet all the tea in china that the republicans will take back the house
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in 2022 and they will keep the senate now and they'll keep it in 2022 even if they lost the senate
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they'd get it back in 22 because everything this administration does is going to be impeding the
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economy just as trudeau is doing the same thing in canada so he will not do a single thing that will
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make anybody happy in this country so 10 million people that voted for him because they hated trump
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will gravitate right back to the right side get their head straight and the question is that all
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the people that say oh i'm overly optimistic i'm crazy it's going to be terrible it isn't going to be
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good but the amount of damage he can do in two years and i only give him two years because once he
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loses the house he doesn't have a house in the senate he's really limited in the damage i think it's
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it's it's minimal i think he'll do more damage to the democrat socialist party than it will do to
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the country i think he might destroy the party in four years they'll lose by a landslide can you could
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you tell me a single thing he might do that's going to make the people in the united states happy
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now forget about the 40 percent liberal radicals that want to live under socialism the 60 percent that
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do not are not going to be happy with anything he does well and i do appreciate your perspective
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because you are in ohio you're in coal country you're in fracking country um and so you do sort
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of have your finger on the pulse of these issues um now another thing i wanted to talk to you about
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is one of your other more recent articles over at america out loud and it's uh details i suppose the
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hubris of humanity doesn't it that um you know that the article is titled human puppeteers calling
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the shots for mother nature um and you know it is about this hubris that we think that we can control
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this this thing that we live on just like every other creature on the face of the earth
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yes it really is uh absolutely absurd the the choice of man cause global warming as the fraud
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they launched to take over the government of the world uh was a strange one in my eyes because it's
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so absolutely ridiculous but when you own the media and everything people read and hear and see
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is about it and they have little science training they actually think man uh has the ability to control
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the thermostat of the earth we have zero capacity to do that and the whole idea of blaming everything
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on man's carbon dioxide which makes up like a tenth of a percent of the entire uh atmosphere
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was intended to control all energy to control the number of children you have because that's
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we exhale carbon dioxide so energy controls the world and if you're blaming it all on carbon dioxide
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you need the un to be in charge of everything one country doesn't make much difference so the world
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whole world has to be in sync you have a more powerful un and ultimately a one world government
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that's what they're looking at but one of the things about them is they're they're really not dumb the
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leaders of the whole program know we cannot run our economy on wind and solar in fact they know well
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if we get rid of fossil fuel energy will have to be rationed that's exactly what they want if you
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ration energy to the entire country to all industries to all people you absolutely control society so that
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is really their goal it's it's evil sheila there's nothing no other way to call it they are evil they
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know what they're doing and sadly uh the rank and file population of both our countries don't understand
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the science you you can imagine it drives me crazier than the average person because i under i've
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spent my life in the science and they're they're launching lie after lie after lie so that's what i do i
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work seven days a week writing articles publish them in numbers of places explaining to people in different
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ways that man has zero impact on the temperature of our planet you know there's a line in or two or three
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lines in a paragraph that you've written here and it reads radical environmentalists are not interested
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in taking over a single country or even many ruling the whole world is their only goal so when all
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powerful united nations and completely a one world government is their path to success practically no
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vehicle other than climate change has a chance at achieving this after all the climate is everywhere on earth
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and for the environmental communist movement to succeed everywhere on earth must be controlled and
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you know when i read that it reminded me of um you know east germany and you had to capture everybody
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because communism doesn't work if people can leave and so you can't confine people to their countries
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anymore but we are all confined to the earth so naturally the next step if you want communism
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you've got to control everything the entire face of the earth and as you rightly point out
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the only existential threat the left wants us to believe is truly out there it's global warming
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it's perfect for them your analogy east germany is uh is absolutely excellent that is what they want is
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is total control and actually environmentalism is the new communism yeah when the the wall came down in
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east germany and when the soviet union failed mr gorbachev left power in the soviet union and started a new
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environmental organization and he was smart enough to realize that if you put the environment ahead of
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mankind and you create uh falsehoods of bad things happening to the environment and tell people it's
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just immoral to treat the the environment badly you get the control that you just described sheila
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so environmentalism radical environmentalism is is truly the new communism it's saved communism and
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that's really what they're after and gorbachev knew that when he left office now certainly there are good
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people working to protect the environment i have a phd basically in environmental science and i have
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worked to protect our environment i helped write the seven safety net bills in the united states back in
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the 70s that protect our air our water our soil our waste disposal our agriculture and and so on we're
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really all positive environmentalists but the leadership of the radical organization really are communists at
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heart and they want world domination and you said it correctly they have to control all people there
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there can't be people allowed to to go their own way and the novel 1984 and aldous huxley's brave new
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world uh they are evil we're in a battle of good versus evil and uh we know which side we're on
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it it truly is and you cannot have i mean this is the one way that they capture everybody
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there you can't bleed off uh non-believers if we're all trapped on the same earth it's actually
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quite clever of the environmental left and i say the environmental left but they are just the radical left
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environmentalism is the veneer that they put over it so that everybody finds it um benign like they're
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saving the planet um now i wanted to talk to you about um another article that you've written it's a little
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a while back november 11th um and you suggested under a biden administration get ready for nationwide
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blackouts i guess when we vote and when i say we i mean not even canadians of course we can't vote in
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your elections but when society votes for uh people who want to replicate what's happening in california
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environmentally speaking through regulations of course you're going to get california style
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rolling brownouts no question about it california is way ahead of the rest of the country they're the
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model of of terribleness for energy in the united states and they're they're down to one nuclear power
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plant they're going to shut down in 2024 uh they're eliminating all coal-fired plants and uh they're
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making life difficult for natural gas and they're requiring uh wind and solar uh in as part of every
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electrical supply uh system in the country they're even not buying energy they're they're way short of
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energy they have to import a lot of it and they won't even buy energy that's produced uh across their
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border by coal so they're making life more and more difficult for their citizens and they are already
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having rolling brownouts and and blackouts and they are the model of what will happen to the rest of
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the country uh if we were to follow suit and that's what biden's plan clearly ultimately is to get rid of
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all fossil fuels and revert to wind and solar he's not smart enough to know it's a failure but the people
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behind him are smart enough to know you cannot uh do it but they want it done because they want to take
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control and ration energy in every way in the united states so we're really i'm very happy that
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california is doing what they're doing uh because anybody with half a brain will see if they follow
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california's plan they'll be in the same shape well biden wants the whole thing to happen in the united
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state and again i go back to the fact that uh he will not have enough time in office or the people that
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are pulling the strings on his puppet are not going to have enough time to really make an inroad
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into our whole energy system they're going to hurt the economy but it won't be it won't really be a
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disaster i expect gasoline prices to go up 50 cents as he promotes electric cars and uh and and so on
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but again i i just look at things very practically and you're limited in how much damage you can do in a
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short period of time yeah i think americans might want to hunker down for an expensive carbon tax
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because we got one here when we had a radical environmentalist leader take control of our
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country and now we're getting another one and they're calling it the clean fuel standard because
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we don't know that that's just not code for carbon tax 2.0 um now there's you've written another article
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that uh this is something that i is on my radar quite a bit because i think it is so ridiculous
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for governments and normal people um because governments don't actually have any of their
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own money it all comes from normal people rich people they can move their money around they can
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afford expensive tax attorneys but normal people like you and i we can't do that and so uh i always
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watch how governments treat electric vehicles because it is the ultimate virtue signaling it is taking
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money from normal people to subsidize the luxury novelty vehicles of rich people and joe biden like
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all the other uh far leftist politicians before him thinks that forcing taxpayers to pay for what is it here
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um it's some enormous amount of uh oh my goodness half a million new public charging outlets by the end of
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2030 so creating an entire i guess fuel station system for cars that nobody wants to buy unless you pay
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them to buy it well sheila i couldn't say it any better than you but again you said a half a million
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uh charging systems by 2030 he's going to be long gone before 2030 they don't have time to do that
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uh electric vehicles the whole industry would shrink if they weren't working on so many government
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subsidies and that indeed is one of biden's uh desires it's clearly the case in california they want to
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outlaw the internal combustion engine by 2035 it isn't going to happen and people electric car prices
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are not going to come down equal to normal car prices and a quarter of the population couldn't
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conceivably afford them and if you really start looking at the problems with a lot of electric cars
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uh it means you're going to have a lot older safer cars on the road because people aren't going
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to be able to trade their cars in uh for the electric vehicle so it's a terrible idea on all
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levels there's nothing wrong with an electric car if you can afford them and you have a charging
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station near and if they work in your climate they don't work here they don't work too well in cold
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climates right the mileage that you you get the fear of running out of power uh is a hell of a bigger
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problem in cold climates than in hot climates and you know elon musk has done an amazing sales job
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doing with tesla the price of tesla is like monopoly money it has no relation to uh reality so electric
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cars are another one of the crazy ideas linked to the uh the green new deal and and there again my
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optimism is let him do all those things it's just going to end his term in office i think it's going
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to end the democrat socialist party oh jay from your lips to god's ears jay i could take up all your
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time um but that is not the deal we agreed to when we had this interview jay why don't you tell us where
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people can find some of the work that you do and uh support it share it spread the message well i work
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with uh tom harris and we write an essay published on american uh out loud uh every single week of the
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year i do a lot of radio shows with them and tom as a website our website is international climate
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science coalition a lot of stuff is there but i write independently as well on a website called
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cfact.org c-f-a-c-t uh committee for constructive tomorrow uh and i write essays uh every week and the
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neat thing in both places all my work is archived if you went to cfact.org i've written 100 articles in
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the last uh two years there on every subject you would be interested in relating to uh energy and
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climate and if you just go to find one of my articles and you click on my name uh a string of
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everything i've written will come up you got to wait while they reload each uh each page but one of
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the fun things i do when somebody asks me uh you know for something i've written uh i send them
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everything of course when i read it all just find a title you like click on it and uh and read it
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but the most exciting thing about my work the last two years sheila is there is not a day goes by
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that i'm not published somewhere in the world and tom harris deserves most of the credit for that he
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knows how to work uh getting stuff out to the right people and finding it for me but i'm translated into
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german chinese spanish italian uh it's very exciting and uh i work i'm 84 years old uh i'm an ironman
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triathlete uh still play all sports people don't believe that but it's true i heat my house with
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wood but i work five hours a day seven days a week and my goal is to educate the public and if every
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article i read you know lands on the head of three or four people who now realize what a fraud man
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cause climate change is that was a good day's work well that's quite inspirational um that you're
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working so hard still um when so many people are just enjoying their golden years uh jay thanks so
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much for coming on the show i'll have you back on again real soon and yeah tom harris is a great
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friend of rebel news and so was mark morano over at c fact so um you know good bunch of guys including
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yourself working hard to just tell the other side of the story we appreciate that so much you're
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sheila you're doing as much as all this program is great you bring the right people on
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and you really understand analyzing your questions are fabulous so uh your audience uh is getting
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their money's worth watching your show it's fabulous great thanks jay happy holidays merry christmas to you
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i'm pleased with dr lair's optimism going forward despite what i think is probably going to be
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at least two years of catastrophe in the united states energy sector and as a canadian i'm very
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worried too because i think justin trudeau is going to be emboldened by having a biden harris
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administration in the white house only time will tell but i suspect things are going to go from bad
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to worse to worse than we could ever imagine in the canadian energy sector and i hope that i am wrong
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for everybody's sake well everybody that's the show for tonight thank you so much for tuning in i'll see
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everybody back here in the same time in the same place next week merry christmas happy holidays and
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remember don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think