Who's more submissive to Communist China? Joe Biden or Justin Trudeau? Ezra Levenant and David Menzies try to answer that question, and debate whether or not they are more pro-China. They also discuss the Uyghurs in Xinjiang, the people in exile in exile, and the genocide in China's Xinjiang province.
00:00:56.640Tonight, who is more submissive to Communist China, Justin Trudeau or Joe Biden? It's
00:01:02.060February 17, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:07.140Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:10.860There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:14.940The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody
00:01:19.820right to do so. Seriously, who is more pro-China, Joe Biden or Justin Trudeau? You'd think it would
00:01:30.320be impossible for anyone to top this, Trudeau's super gross statement that China was the country
00:01:36.620he most admired, specifically because of its dictatorship. There's a level of admiration I
00:01:43.980actually have for China because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn
00:01:53.640their economy around on a dime. I mean, come on, how can anyone ever beat that? That's the goat,
00:01:59.580as the kids would say, the greatest of all time. Well, look at this from Biden's TV town hall last
00:02:05.440night. You know, Chinese leaders, if you know anything about Chinese history, it has always been
00:02:12.040the time when China has been victimized by the outer world is when they haven't been unified at
00:02:18.660home. So the central, vastly overstated, the central principle of Xi Jinping is that there must be a
00:02:27.600united, tightly controlled China. And he uses his rationale for the things he does based on that.
00:02:34.320I point out to him, no American president can be sustained as a president if he doesn't reflect
00:02:39.440the values of the United States. And so the idea, I'm not going to speak out against what he's doing
00:02:45.220in Hong Kong, what he's doing with the Uyghurs in Western mountains of China and Taiwan trying to end the
00:02:54.400one China policy by making it forceful. I said, and by the way, he said he gets it.
00:03:00.920He really said that? Oh my God, I shouldn't laugh. I'm sorry I laughed. He said China is the victim.
00:03:08.980Presumably that means America is the oppressor. He said China needs to tightly control its people.
00:03:16.580He said he's not going to speak out for Hong Kong or the Uyghurs. Hong Kong, which has been
00:03:21.880semi-autonomous as part of their agreement with the UK for the return of that city.
00:03:26.360He doesn't care. And he lumps in Taiwan, a separate independent sovereign country.
00:03:31.960Biden just lumped Taiwan in as if it's some province of China and they can do with it what
00:03:36.780they like. And then he loses his train of thought for a minute and then just reaches for one of his
00:03:42.000catch-all phrases. When he forgets something, he gets it. What? What? But his key message is
00:03:47.920totalitarianism is a cultural norm in China. And the leaders there have to be bullies and tyrants
00:03:53.700because their people want it and expect it? I really think he meant what he said. If there
00:04:01.100was any doubt about it, well, too bad. CNN didn't feel like asking him any follow-up questions
00:04:06.940on that astounding statement. Here's a reply from a Uyghur leader in exile. That's the people in the
00:04:14.160western province of Xinjiang. President of the United States should know that nothing can be a
00:04:19.040justification for genocide. Hitler attempted to create a greater German Reich through aggression,
00:04:25.760invasion of neighboring countries, and the Holocaust of millions of Jews and others.
00:04:29.480Xi, that's the president of China, is doing the same thing today and must be stopped.
00:04:35.020That's pretty tough stuff, but it's true. I think there are reasons to call what's going on in China a
00:04:39.380genocide against the Uyghur people in the western province of Xinjiang, against Tibet, really.
00:04:44.880They have concentration camps in Xinjiang. They have labor camps, forced labor camps.
00:04:51.900I don't think they have death camps like Hitler did, so that's a distinction. But on the other
00:04:56.820hand, there are credible reports of mass rapes and torture at the hands of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:05:02.760And overlay on top, the Chinese Communist Party's approach to ethnic cleansing. They relocate millions
00:05:09.140of ethnic Han Chinese people into Tibet and into Xinjiang to dilute the local indigenous character of
00:05:17.780these different ethnicities. China is made up of many different regions and peoples, really. They're not
00:05:24.000all Chinese in the ethnic sense. It is the explicit policy of the Communist Party of China to replace
00:05:29.880local identities, especially religious identities and ethnic identities, with an obedience to the Chinese
00:05:35.780Communist Party, which also happens to be dominated by the Han ethnicity. I've seen a verified translation of
00:05:41.700this next video. In Xinjiang province, children are separated from their natural families and reprogrammed to
00:05:48.260worship the state as their family. Here's a tweet. In this Xinjiang camp, Uyghur children are forcefully separated from
00:05:57.640the parents in order to chant, my mother is China, we love our mother, we love China. So yeah. So maybe Biden beats Trudeau in the
00:06:09.080Communist Olympics, after all. Speaking of Olympics, Canada doesn't have a bad word to say about the Olympics, which are being held in China again.
00:06:17.560I know that it's not a government decision per se when it comes to the Olympics. You're well familiar, I'm sure, about whether or not
00:06:22.920the call, sorry, to boycott the 2022 Olympics in Beijing. Will this government be sending, if it does go ahead, representatives from the government to those games?
00:06:33.420It's a good question. I don't have the answer for you on that. I can only speak to what you said about the Canadian Olympic Committee making the decision about
00:06:42.400about the athletes themselves. I would have to, I would have to get back to you on that. I don't know what the situation is with respect to that. That is something that typically comes under the Minister of Heritage.
00:06:58.100Yeah, or the Minister of Sport. I'm just wondering, as Minister of Foreign Affairs, based on what you know so far about how China has treated its Uyghur population, if you think it would be appropriate to send a representative from your government to those games, should they go ahead?
00:07:10.380Well, that will be a government decision, and India is the Minister of Heritage, who is also the Minister of Sport, who ultimately will be at the centre of that decision.
00:07:21.740So you don't have a position on that at this point?
00:07:24.780I don't have a position on that at this point.
00:07:27.260That's leadership, eh? So I think it's fair to say there is a genocide of the Uyghur people. It's not in the same methods of the Nazi Holocaust. Holocaust comes from the word meaning everything burning.
00:07:38.380You wouldn't have seen concentration camps where the Jews in Nazi Germany were being brainwashed into good little Aryan Nazis praising Hitler.
00:07:53.360The final solution for Xi Jinping is to undermine Uyghur history and religion and culture and identity and family and economy and demographics.
00:08:01.420It really is ethnic cleansing, but they're not trying to murder every Uyghur.
00:08:05.980They're trying to brainwash the identity out of their kids' minds.
00:08:10.020And sure, they will kill and rape countless along the way.
00:11:28.920Look at this story in the Globe and Mail.
00:11:31.740Senior liberal MP urges Trudeau cabinet to wake up and smell the roses on China.
00:11:35.960The Liberal chair of the Commons Finance Committee says a budget recommendation calling on Ottawa to pull out of the Beijing-backed Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank should serve as a wake-up-and-smell-the-roses moment for Canada.
00:11:48.720So he's talking about a different grant to China.
00:11:51.620Trudeau can't stop giving foreign aid to the world's richest country.
00:11:54.260Liberal MP Wayne Easter, who also served as Solicitor General under Jean Chrétien, in charge of Canada's security agencies,
00:12:02.140told the Globe and Mail Tuesday that Canada needs to recognize the serious threat China poses to Western democracies.
00:12:08.320He also criticized the fact that universities are still conducting research projects with Chinese terminal communications giant Huawei Technologies.
00:12:15.260The Finance Committee, in a report Tuesday, made the recommendation to withdraw from the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank,
00:12:23.760which the Trudeau government joined in 2017 with plans to contribute $995 million U.S.
00:13:27.200Well, as you may know, Canada is in the, I don't know, the 60th place in the world in terms of delivering the vaccine.
00:13:35.840Now, there are plenty of reasons to be skeptical about a vaccine rushed to market, a vaccine that interacts with your own body's RNA, a vaccine for a disease that has a 99.9% recovery rate for the general population.
00:13:51.520But for those who want it, let them have it.
00:13:55.300Alas, they can't get it in Canada because Justin Trudeau has bungled pretty much his one job.
00:14:01.520And it's something the media party actually cares about because they believe with perfect faith in these vaccines.
00:14:06.580And like I say, if you want it, feel free to have it.
00:14:11.080I think it's so bad that he's possibly delaying what's so obviously his plan for a spring election.
00:14:18.840So what do you do when you're in 60th place in the world for vaccine delivery, which has become the ultimate test of how progressive you are?
00:15:41.960In fact, this is an interesting story because a couple of years ago, I think Apple was the first one to do it.
00:15:47.780They changed the gun emoji to look less like a real firearm.
00:15:52.420And they changed it to one that was this like bright neon green squirt gun looking thing with an orange tip on it.
00:15:58.780And it was so absurd because they were trying to avoid having, I guess, some sort of violent imagery, even though there are other things and emojis that you'd think would be more problematic.
00:16:07.120But that's actually what's happening with real guns now.
00:16:09.720When I was a kid, if you got a gun, you wanted it to look really cool and really like a real gun.
00:16:14.800Whereas now the only ones you're going to be allowed to have are the bright green neon Nerf gun or squirt gun type things.
00:16:20.580Because one of the aspects of this, and again, it's a long bill and this was just one paragraph, but it jumped out to me.
00:16:26.360In the bill, update the criminal code to ensure that any device, including an unregulated air gun that looks like a conventional regulated firearm is prohibited for the purposes of import, export, sale and transfer.
00:16:41.980So if little Timmy has a realistic looking airsoft gun, he can keep it.
00:16:46.220But if he wants to give it to a friend, if he wants to buy a new one, that's going to be illegal once this law is passed.
00:16:51.140Now, airsoft, I'm not an expert in it, but I heard Sheila Gunn-Reed say that's a gun that fires soft things that actually don't hurt when you get hit.
00:17:18.280I mean, theoretically, if you had just a, you know, a paperweight that looked like a gun, even if it didn't shoot anything out of it, that would be illegal under this.
00:18:15.240And just to put that into perspective, we know that most gun owners tend to be in rural areas or smaller communities around the country, Alberta, Saskatchewan.
00:18:24.680If legal gun ownership were correlated to gun crime, we would see gun crime in rural Alberta, in rural Saskatchewan, in southwestern Ontario, in eastern Ontario.
00:18:36.540Where we see gun crime is in the cities, is in Toronto, as one notable example, also Montreal to some extent.
00:18:42.960Places that, really, by any measure, are very low in terms of lawful ownership of restricted guns like handguns.
00:18:52.060So you're very right to point that out.
00:18:53.660The problem is not the law-abiding gun ownership.
00:18:57.720And one, as well, point that is missing here from the discourse tends to be that we do not even have any national tracking of where the guns used in crimes are.
00:19:07.500Every now and then, an individual police force that recovers one will try to track where it came from.
00:19:12.740Certainly, this happened with the Nova Scotia shooting, and they found out that not one of them was legally owned or legally purchased.
00:19:19.740But the thing is, we do not, as a rule, track this.
00:19:22.980So when we are talking about guns being on the street, the government is deliberately ignoring that most of these are imported illegally from overseas, mainly from the United States, with whom we share an unprotected border.
00:19:36.180But the reason they're not tracking it is because they know it will deflate the myth that guns purchased by people like me are somehow meandering their way through the system to end up in the hand of a gangster when that just isn't happening.
00:21:24.060So this is something that Conservatives need.
00:21:26.180You know, and as much as I say they aren't going to get votes on guns, you will lose votes by not standing up for gun owners, by not standing up for your base in general.
00:21:35.180Yesterday, a Conservative MP in the Shadow Cabinet, Shannon Stubbs, sent out a statement condemning this, and the party put it out.
00:21:43.220But I haven't heard anything from Aaron O'Toole yet.
00:21:45.540So I always find it interesting when the Conservative Party decides to put someone who's lesser known as the voice on an issue, rather than having Aaron O'Toole get out there and say, listen, this is something we need to push back again.
00:21:57.980So it's not to say he won't run against it.
00:21:59.980I know he was in the leadership, generally speaking, pro-gun in my conversations with him and ones that I saw elsewhere.
00:22:06.880But I haven't heard anything just yet.
00:22:08.480Well, I'm a little bit nervous of what you just said.