Why I think the pandemic is over
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I'll make my case for why we're done with this pandemic, and should just go back to normal now. It's May 8th, and this is The Ezra Levenant's show on the Ezra Levin Show.
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Hello, my rebels. Today I make the case that the pandemic's over. It's just over. The health
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scare is over. The actual death toll, unfortunately in the thousands, it's in great decline in 82%
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of the deaths. Well, they were people in old folks' homes, which doesn't make it any less
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tragic, but it shows that this maybe wasn't quite a general pandemic, but a problem with a few
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key institutions. I'll make my case for why we're done and should just go back to normal now.
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Tonight, I think the pandemic's over. I'll make my case. It's May 8th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government of a wire publisher is because it's my bloody
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Interesting story in the Toronto Star today. 82% of Canada's COVID-19 deaths have been in
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long-term care, new data reveals. Pretty much says it all. Sure, the virus was the killer,
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but an essential factor was the institutions. What was it about them? People cooped up indoors?
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I don't know. Cheap foreign laborers brought in to work there without proper hygiene, maybe,
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working many odd jobs at different facilities just to cobble together enough money to live on
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in the expensive cities. So the health staff became super spreaders themselves. I don't know.
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Maybe they didn't have proper face masks because Trudeau shipped them all to China in February.
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It bears investigation, don't you think? These questions should be answered, don't you think?
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Hey, if you knew three months ago that this virus basically left young people alone,
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but was deadly to people over 70 and very deadly to people over 80,
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would you have a different opinion about the idea of shutting down schools
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and every restaurant and bar and shop in the country? And if you had a parent or a grandparent
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in a senior's home, maybe you would even go and pick them up and bring them back home or to the
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country cottage for the duration. Seriously, that would likely have saved lives and certainly saved jobs
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in this pandemic pandemonium. We need to investigate what happened to these seniors' homes.
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I think it's a lack of masks by staff. Staff working in various homes, living cramped together
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with other temporary foreign workers because they're cheap foreign laborers trying to make
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a go of it. I suspect that's what's going on. That's what happened in Alberta with those meat
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packing plants. There's nothing special at meat packing plants that makes them dangerous with this
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virus. It's not about the cattle or the beef. That's not where the virus comes from or what they
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actually do at these butcher shops. Again, it's temporary foreign workers who live jammed together
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bunkhouse style, carpooling together in minibuses because they're saving money to send the money
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back to Somalia or wherever. There may be some hygiene issues too. I don't know. They have different
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standards in Somalia. But I'm saying I predict that in the more honest histories of this crisis,
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we'll find out that it wasn't a pandemic in the usual sense of the term. It was actually quite a
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picky virus that chose government institutions to flourish where, well, the government was in
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charge of how things were, like airports. Where Canada let everyone in no matter what and still
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to this day doesn't do temperature checks. That's weird, eh? I see the grocery stores are now starting
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to do a quick non-invasive temperature check on people coming into the store. I think that's
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probably a good idea. It's voluntary. It's not a government thing. Probably isn't even necessary.
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It's probably two months too late. And grocery stores aren't actually the problem. Our open
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borders are the problem. To this day, we still don't take temperature at the airport from foreign
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arrivals. You know, Hong Kong is literally part of China, of course. It has a boundary between
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itself and the rest of China so they can stop travelers. But it's not even a border like an
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international border. And yet they guard that boundary, take people's temperatures, screen hard
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at that boundary. And so their death rate in Hong Kong was 1 200th of what is here in Canada. As in,
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we're 200 times more deadly here. And they don't do social distancing. Have you ever been to Hong Kong
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or Tokyo or Taipei? Those are extremely crowded cities. Very dense. Everyone living on top of each
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other in apartments. Everyone close to each other in the streets, on the buses, in the subways.
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They couldn't social distance if they tried. There's not enough room. So instead, they just wear those
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cheap masks and get a new one every day. But like I say, Trudeau gave away all our masks to China.
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So the two things that Trudeau was supposed to do, guard our borders and don't give away our masks to
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China, are the two things he didn't do. He got wrong. They're the two things that would have saved
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thousands of lives, I think. And the one thing Trudeau loves to do, bring in cheap foreign laborers
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to undercut Canadian workers' salaries, to give a labor cost break to his friends in major corporations,
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many of which are foreign-owned, like Cargill and the JBS meatpacking plants. They're foreign-owned.
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What are you doing? And many seniors' homes in Canada are owned by China. Did you know that?
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So Trudeau's temporary foreign workers were the super spreaders. So yeah, this wasn't a pandemic
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in the Greek root of that word, the etymology pan, meaning all, like panorama, and demic from
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demos, meaning people like democracy, pandemic. No, it didn't affect all people. Mainly people that
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were put in dangerous institutions and put at risk because no one was guarding our borders,
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and no one is even now. But I tell you that we're past the worst of it. You'll recall all those charts
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of doom, those models that showed how many thousands or hundreds of thousands of deaths
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were going to happen, and how we all had to be locked in our homes to flatten the curve. Now,
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the idea wasn't that flattening the curve would stop us from getting sick. The idea was to slow the
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rate of new people getting sickness, to spread it out over time, so the hospitals wouldn't be
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overwhelmed all at once. The number of sick would be the same, if you look at the graphs. It was just
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to pace that. That's what flatten the curves mean. The area of the curve, to speak mathematically,
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was the same. It's just instead of like that, it was like that. Well, look at this. Look what
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reality is. Not the worst case curve, not even the best case curve. A number so small, it surely
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ought to rebuke every public health official and epidemiologist who predicted the apocalypse.
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These are the people we entrusted all of society to, and their models, and they couldn't have been
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more wrong. Now, thank goodness they were wrong. And I guess give them some slack. We had no idea
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how bad this disease was or could be, because the Chinese Communist Party lies and lies about
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everything. This was their Chernobyl in a way. They were in cover-up mode. I don't doubt that an
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enormous number of people in China did die, much more than they admitted. I don't know. It could have
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been the same thing here, I guess, but it wasn't, thank God. But even the experts with their models
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didn't seem to believe it themselves. Here's Neil Ferguson, the British epidemiologist who was
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the voice of gloom and doom over there in the UK, but his work was cited globally as the terrifying
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reason to lock us all down. Even I referred to his work months ago at his Imperial College study
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showing how many people likely died in China, but he was wrong. Not just wrong, he apparently didn't
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even believe it himself. While he was hectoring the UK to stay at home and not to mix households,
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not to go outside, he was having a secret romantic affair with a married woman, a mom. She would leave
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her household, leave her husband and kids behind, and go to his place for their trysts. So he obviously
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never really believed separate the household things himself. He loved being a celebrity these past two
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months. He loved how suddenly people listened to him, even politicians. He loved the power of telling
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a nation and the world, be locked up, and them doing it. But he never even really believed in
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himself, or at least he felt he was above following his own rules for his lover. That's worth remembering
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when we think about other so-called experts with their models telling us the world will end unless we,
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oh, I don't know, pay a carbon tax or stop using fossil fuels or whatever that doom and gloom
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prediction says. Look at the economic carnage from just two months of this. Imagine doing this
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permanently on purpose to save the world. Imagine how much pain and death that would cause.
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Here's a sad but predictable story from British Columbia, because everyone cleared up the hospitals
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to make way for that wave of virus cases that never came, that spike. So many elective surgeries had
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to be postponed. I know what an elective surgery is. It means something that's not an emergency. You
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choose to do it. But you leave something like that for a while, it becomes an emergency. Cataract
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surgery to see a hip replacement. Are those emergencies? They probably feel like they are
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to the person in question. How many cancer exams were missed because of the panic? So how many people
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don't know they have cancer, wasn't diagnosed? I guarantee you that more Canadians will have died
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from the shutdown of our normal health regimen than from the virus by the time this is done. And that
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doesn't even add in those who will die from poverty-inflicted causes from the Great Recession.
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Suicides alone will be in the hundreds. Add one more percent to the unemployment rules in Canada. That's
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an additional 150 suicides per percentage. I think Canadians are done with the virus, and we're done with
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the panic and the reaction. I think some people aren't. People who were given a surprise paid vacation, and by
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that I mean people living in the unreality of government land. Government employees who get paid no matter what.
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And I include teachers in that. University professors, experts in things like transgenderism or whatever.
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All the people who hector us, they're just taking a vacation. You think they were laid off? They were
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not laid off. Only the little people were. Waiters, waitresses, shopkeepers, barbers.
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Show me someone who wants the lockdown to continue, and I'll show you either a megalomaniac like Neil
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Ferguson and Teresa Tam, or a politician loving the limelight, or someone who's getting paid
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to watch Netflix all day because their government bureaucracy shut down. And then there's just the
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absurd policing. Like the mom who was arrested, handcuffed, and put in the police car, separated
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from her five-year-old daughter for the crime of going on a swing in a park.
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He didn't want to hear it. He grabbed my arm, took my backpack off, proceeded to put me in
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handcuffs, separated me from my daughter. I was taken up to the police vehicle where a cop did a body
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search on me, and it was very thorough and invasive. From there, they put me into the back of the cop car,
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and I didn't even know where my daughter was at that time. They went through all my things against
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my will. We were separated for about 20 minutes. He called me an idiot and yelled in my face. They
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finally came back and released me from the cop car, took my handcuffs off, and gave me an $880 ticket.
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Yeah, there has not been a single death in Canada of a child due to a coronavirus, let alone caught
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outside. Not one single case. I wonder if there's something to that, you know. In the 1918-1919 Spanish
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flu doctors said that sunshine and fresh air were actually the most effective therapy of everything
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they tried, as opposed to being indoors with bad air, which just happens to describe seniors homes,
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doesn't it? The opposite of which is parks and playgrounds, which our know-nothing experts told
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us was illegal. Yeah, no. I think people are pretty much done with all this. I like Ontario Premier
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Doug Ford, and I liked his late brother Rob Ford, the former Toronto mayor, even more. But Doug Ford
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has been enjoying the media praise a bit too much for acting like a mini-me to Trudeau. I think he
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started to like being praised by the Toronto Star. That never happened before. I think he forgot who he
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was. He certainly forgot who voted for him. And when normal people, Ford Nation, asked to go back to
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work, he called them yahoos. They gave us these three projections, elevated, probable, and the lowest,
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and said, oh, we got to do everything we can to avoid this. Well, we got the hospital data. The
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hospital data didn't even come anywhere to their lowest predictions. So what did the justified
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lockdown? So obviously, you know, the reaction was swift, and it was a blanket policy that we
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modeled off of a communist dictatorship. When the government says, we didn't expect this,
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and we didn't disprepare it, this is all a joke. Like, this was obvious. The only three categories of
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population that must have been protected from the beginning is the elderly, the prisons, and
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homeless. Those are the only three people that had to be protected from the beginning, but we are
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not. We have violent offenders being released out of prisons, and we have healthy people being
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confined to their homes. It makes no sense. Yeah, no, Ford is listening to the ruling class,
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which he thinks he's part of now. The government union class, the class that's having the time of
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their lives right now. He likes to scold people lately. It's not a very Ford thing to do.
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It used to be more of a liberal thing to do. He told people not to go to their country cabins and
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cottages. Please, this long weekend, do not go to your cottage. We can't stress it enough.
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Well, what do you know? While Ford himself was calling anyone who wanted to go to the lake,
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names and insults, he himself sneaked away to his country home to inspect the plumbing, he said.
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Oh, is that what we're calling a weekend at the lake now? I just got to go inspect some plumbing.
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That's probably what Neil Ferguson's mistress said, word for word. Come to think of it. Oh,
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I'm just going to check some plumbing, dear. Sure you are. No different than Justin Trudeau traveling
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to Quebec to visit his estranged wife Sophie over the Easter long weekend to visit with the kids. No
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different than Scotland's public health officer doing the same. No different than New Zealand's
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health minister doing the same. They don't actually follow the rules. What are you thinking?
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What do you expect, though? No one jets around more than a climate activist like Elizabeth May,
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the Green Party leader. She even flies on private jets these days. That must be nice.
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Global warming worrier Leonardo DiCaprio has private jets and private yachts. So you know,
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they don't really mean it. They just love the moral preening and telling other people what to do
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and seeming very woke and all based on models from experts. Experts like Greta. They want us to
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flatten the curve on carbon dioxide. Now we know that the only flattening that happens is to you and
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me. Yeah, no, I think we're all done now, don't you? I think we're going to go outside now and go to the
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park now and open up our stores now. I know some obedient types won't because we're a law-abiding
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people. Some of us are passive. Some of us like being ruled. It's funny. When my friend Tommy
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Robinson was in solitary confinement, it got to him after a while, he told me. He told me he started
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to, in a way, love his cell, and he looked with some dread at seeing his family again. It gets into
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your head, he told me. I think some people like living as prisoners, but enough of us don't.
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We've let the Neil Ferguson's and the Theresa Tam's run things long enough,
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and they've failed. They're getting everything wrong. I think we're pretty much all done now.
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Welcome back. Well, of course, the political parties are considered the main actors in any
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election campaign, but in recent elections, there have been hundreds of so-called third-party
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campaigns, and they're disclosed by Elections Canada, which tracks their spending and other
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activities. Hundreds of them, and by my own inspection, between 90 and 99 percent of them
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support parties of the left and do so explicitly. For example, Unifor, the union of journalists,
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explicitly spends its members' dues, journalists covering the election, their union dues are spent
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campaigning against the conservatives. That's just one egregious example. A more effective example
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would probably be that of the plethora of environmental extremist groups, including those funded by the
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United States, active in Vancouver and other parts of BC. Groups like the Dogwood Initiative and other
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extreme anti-oil and gas and anti-pipeline groups. They target ridings. They see, for example,
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which candidate has the greater likelihood of winning, the Liberal or the New Democrat, and then
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they throw their support behind the best choice to block the conservatives. The idea being to block
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oil and gas pipelines. Very effective. And some would say these foreign-funded third-party groups were
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largely responsible for tipping seats in Trudeau's favor in BC in the 2015 election, again in 2019.
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That's all kosher, according to the government. In fact, groups like the David Suzuki Foundation who do
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campaign simply refuse to register, and that's fine too. But Elections Canada is quite busy investigating what
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they think is perhaps the most egregious use of campaigning in the election. It's a group of
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volunteers who are pro-life, who went out and dared to door knock for candidates that they supported. No
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multi-million dollar operation, no partisan hacks like David Suzuki, just pro-life volunteers with a group
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called Right Now. And Right Now is being investigated right now by Elections Canada. Right Now is co-founder
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Scott Hayward joins us now via Skype from Brandon, Manitoba. Scott, welcome to the show. Did I
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more or less accurately sum up your situation? Yeah, I think that's pretty accurate. Thanks for having
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me on, Ezra. Well, it's a pleasure. So you registered with Elections Canada. Is that accurate?
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Yeah, we registered as a third party with Elections Canada prior to the issue of the writ, as was
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required by law. That was, I think, recently amended in the late spring of 2019, because we wanted to
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make sure that we weren't in contravention of any statute. So you actually complied, unlike, say,
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for example, the David Suzuki Foundation, which simply refuses to even register, you registered. But it
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sounds like, if I'm reading the article in the National Post correctly, it's a story by Peter
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Stockton. Let me just put it on the screen for a second. The story is called Anti-Abortion Group
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Investigated by Elections Canada for Providing Volunteers to 2019 Candidates. It sounds like you
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really just mobilized volunteers. Did you spend a lot of money? Let me ask you that.
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No, you can go to the Elections Canada website, and under Reports for Third Parties, you can see
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our report there. I would argue that spending less than $10,000 over the rip period isn't spending very
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much money at all. And we just make sure that pro-lifers who want to see pro-life candidates
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being elected, how they could do that in the most effective way, of course, is door-knocking.
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That's fairly universal, regardless of what political party is running in any election.
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And we told them how to do it, how door-knocking works from a universal perspective, not for a specific
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candidate in particular. And if they were interested in door-knocking for their local
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winnable pro-life candidate, that we would connect them with them. And that was the end of our
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involvement in that regard. So we were just connecting pro-life people who wanted to door-knock and
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volunteer for pro-life candidates with their local pro-life candidate.
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So were those pro-life candidates, could they prospectively come from any party? If there was a
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liberal candidate who's pro-life, I don't know if that's even allowed anymore, but let's say such a
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thing existed, would you direct a pro-life volunteer to a pro-life liberal candidate?
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Our conditions for supporting a candidate is that they have to, we do an interview with all of them
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because we want to do our, you know, due diligence on them. But the number one thing that we're looking
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for is, are you going to vote for pro-life legislation in the next parliament? And if it were a,
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you know, Green Party candidate, or a Liberal Party candidate, or a Conservative Party candidate,
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or whatever candidate who said yes, then they passed that first test. The second test that we
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look at is, is that candidate actually winnable? Does that candidate have a mathematical chance
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at winning their riding? And you can determine that by looking at, you know, different polling data
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at the time and things of this nature. And if those candidates met those two criteria,
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regardless of whatever political party they belong to, then yeah, we would send volunteers
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to them from their local riding. So that frankly sounds identical to what the environmentalist
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groups I mentioned did in BC, which is a great effect. They chose between the NDP and the Liberals,
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that typically tip things to the Liberal category. But all they want to know is, are you going to be
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anti-oil and gas, anti-pipeline? And do you have a chance of winning? It sounds like you
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could have, frankly, just copied their rule book. The difference is they have millions of dollars
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of foreign funding behind them, millions of dollars of Canadian funding too. You just spent
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less than 10 grand. They have hundreds or thousands of people door knocking. I'm guessing you had maybe
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a few dozen? Well, actually we had quite a few people respond across the country. We had just over,
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or pardon me, just under a thousand people from across the country door knocking for their local
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pro-life candidates. Okay. Well, that's impressive. So just under a thousand. Still in the grand scheme
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of things, you know, 338 ridings in the country, a thousand distributed amongst them. So three
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door knockers on average per riding, spending less than $10,000. It's a wonder that you even bothered
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to register. This is so minor and modest, but it's probably better to register than to not register.
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But you have then been summoned by elections, Canada's election commission for an interrogation,
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just like I was for writing my Libranos book. Have you received, what was the form of that
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summons? Have you answered it? Will you go to the interrogation? What are they demanding? Because
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when they sent me the letter, I almost couldn't believe it. And I went and I actually videotaped my
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interrogation. What's your status? Yeah. So I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. I'm a chartered
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professional accountant. So I don't know what the proper legal terminology is. I don't know if
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summons is the correct term. But we were sent a letter from the commissioner's office for
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Elections Canada saying that there was an allegation made that we had contravened certain parts of the
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Canada Elections Act and that an investigation was coming forth. And that one of the results that could
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happen from that investigation, one of the conclusions could be the imposition of monetary
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penalties upon our organization. So like you said, Ezra, we're a new organization. We were founded
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just over four years ago. We're relatively small. We only have two full-time staff because that's all
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we can afford. We don't have millions of dollars coming in every year. We're lucky to get $200,000
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coming in a year. So we run in a very, very tight budget. But yeah, the letter was sent mid-February.
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And we sent a letter back from our legal counsel a few weeks later saying, you know,
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what exactly are these allegations? Can we see the allegations? Who made the allegations?
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What specifically is laid out in the allegations? And once we get that information,
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we're more than happy to cooperate and work with you on whatever information that you need.
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So we sent that letter back. We also mentioned to them that, hey, you know, we're not the only
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organization out there that is helping certain candidates for ideological purposes. And we
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mentioned, you know, five different unions that were doing almost the same thing for the NDP,
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in some cases, the Liberals. And we asked, are you investigating them? Because they're essentially
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doing the same or similar thing, having her back on that. So they got back to us basically asking for
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the same thing toward the end of April. And we sent them a letter back saying, like, listen,
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you didn't answer any of our questions. We can't help you if you don't tell us what exactly it is
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that you need. So that's where it is right now.
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You know, it's so funny hearing you say that because I actually lived through that conversation.
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I hope you don't mind. Let me show you a clip from when, and maybe it was the same exact
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investigators. I don't know if you remember the name of the investigators, but I have dealt with five
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different individuals over there. A couple of them were very senior former RCMP officers. It
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wouldn't surprise me if that's who they were sticking on you. And I had the exact same question.
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I said, can I see the complaint? What exactly did they say I did? And who was the complainant? Let me
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show you a clip. Forgive me, because this is your story about you. But I feel like I'm listening to
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myself ask the same questions. Here, take a look. Can I see the complaint against me?
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The letter that you received? No. I presume that you're investigating based on a complaint.
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Yeah. Oh, this is still part of the investigation. So we'll have to,
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once the investigation's been completed, the commissioner will have to make a decision.
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And at that point, she'll have to decide if that is releasable or not. It's not something that usually
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is released. No. So it's a secret complaint? It's not a secret complaint. It's just a complaint
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that's part of the investigation. And to keep the integrity of the investigation right now,
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you'll understand that we can't share everything that we have.
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Well, I don't want everything that you have. I just, if I'm here to meet a complaint,
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but you won't show me the complaint, how can I possibly meet the complaint? How can I possibly
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respond to something that you won't show me? Scott, I got to tell you, if you went to the
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Elections Canada high security office, like I did in Quebec, it would be that frustrating. You would
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ask questions. Can I see the complaint? Can I know? And they would stonewall you. They stonewalled me for
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an hour. Now, I understand you have a lawyer, Alberto Polizagopoulos, who I've worked with before.
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He's a very bright, very dedicated guy. I'm glad you've lawyered up because these guys will trick
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you and trap you. What do you think the next step is? If they're not going to provide you with any
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information, are you just hunkering down and waiting for some ruling against you? What's next?
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Honestly, I don't know, Ezra. You're right. We had to seek legal counsel. I'm not a lawyer. You know,
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my colleague, Alyssa, isn't a lawyer. So we have a fiduciary responsibility to our board of directors,
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to our volunteers, to our donors, to make sure that we get proper legal counsel. And Alberto's is an
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excellent lawyer with an excellent track record. So we sought the proper legal counsel. What is going to
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happen next? I honestly don't know. The ball is in Elections Canada's court. You know, we had reached out
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to them back in the summer to make sure that we were about to engage in was, you know, in line with
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the latest version of the statute of the Canada Elections Act and things of this nature. So I guess
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we're just waiting to hear back. Are they going to do an investigation? Are they going to have a ruling?
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I honestly don't know. But we're just preparing for any possible outcomes that might come from that.
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You know, there is one key difference between what you did and what I did. I just wrote a book.
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I wrote a book. And of course, there is no way I would ever register with the government to write
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a book. I don't live in communist China or North Korea or Iran. We don't believe in registering to
00:28:08.400
write a book. So I didn't. I never will. You did register. And that's fine. I mean, you felt like you
00:28:16.640
fit under the law. You did the right thing. You checked the boxes. You filled out the forms.
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So you actually complied, looks to me. But they're still interrogating you and have to,
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at least with me. I'm defiant. I'm uncooperative. I don't think I have to cooperate. I'm an author.
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But you actually follow the rules and they're still targeting you. Do you believe this is
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ideologically motivated? Do you think this is some sort of vendetta against pro-lifers?
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I mean, it could be. I don't know for sure. I don't have any hard evidence that it is 100%
00:28:51.200
that that is the case. But it'd be interesting if they do not open up investigations into maybe
00:28:57.640
some of those unions that were helping candidates who probably happen to not be pro-life, being from
00:29:03.960
certain political parties. That would, to me, suggest that this is ideologically and politically
00:29:10.320
motivated. But at this point, I simply don't have enough information to make that stand.
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And what we do know is that, like you had mentioned, we did our level best and we did a
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reasonable amount of lay work to make sure that we were compliant with the very new, I would say,
00:29:31.200
amendments to the Act. We reached out to Elections of Canada prior to registering to make sure that
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everything was all right that we were about to engage in was, in fact, legally allowed. And we
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didn't hear anything throughout the election campaign and we didn't hear anything for quite
00:29:46.960
some time until after the election campaign. So we were quite surprised to receive that letter. So
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it will be interesting. I would not necessarily be surprised if it were politically or ideologically
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motivated. But I don't have enough information at this time to say that's 100% the case.
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Well, let me say this. I'm glad you've got a lawyer. It's always a good idea to lawyer up when
00:30:08.080
you're dealing with tricksters like the Liberal government. I have not heard back from Elections
00:30:15.280
Canada about my case in about three months, which tells me they're either moving at the speed of
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government or they're taking a break because of the virus or they don't want to go another round
00:30:27.920
where they're being embarrassed in public. That could be it because the video I recorded
00:30:31.920
of my session there when they were interrogating me that went viral.
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I would like to help you if you want the help, if you need the help. Maybe they're going to go away.
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Maybe. I think they're going to come for you because they see a young, mild-mannered fella in
00:30:47.520
Brandon, Manitoba, and they say, easy pickings. No offense. You come across as such a nice guy,
00:30:53.440
they think, oh, we can tune this guy up. You got a lawyer with you, so that helps. But if you need help,
00:30:59.040
either in crowdfunding to pay for your lawyer or just in media coverage, please feel free to reach
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out because I believe that you've got to push back hard and not go submissively because otherwise
00:31:13.920
they'll just devour you. I think if you fought back, if the facts are as you say they are,
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I think that this is something that not only they will drop, but we could teach them a lesson and stop
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them from doing this abusive, punitive investigations of Trudeau's enemies list in the future. I think
00:31:31.760
that's exactly what this is. It's an enemies list. They went after my book. They went after your volunteer
00:31:37.760
door knockers. I see a pattern. Will you let me know if we can be of any help in the future, either
00:31:45.360
through crowdfunding or through giving you more publicity? I really appreciate, first off, the kind
00:31:51.680
words that you think, first, that I'm young and mild-mannered. I might have some people in my past
00:31:58.160
who might disagree with you on that, but you think so, so that's good enough for me. And I appreciate
00:32:03.280
the help, whether it be crowdfunding for paying for our legal fees and any potential fines that might be
00:32:11.120
imposed upon us. And who knows where this will go? It might go beyond the auspices of an
00:32:16.800
administrative investigations within Elections Canada. So, as this rolls out, like I said,
00:32:21.680
right now it's Elections Canada's court. So, we're just waiting for them to respond. But as it rolls out,
00:32:28.160
yeah, we're more than happy to accept help and work with people who are wanting to help us out with
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this particular case. Well, for sure. I mean, yesterday it was my book. Today it's your pro-life
00:32:38.880
door knockers. Tomorrow, who knows who it is? It's Trudeau turning the bureaucracy into his
00:32:44.800
personal paramilitary squad going after his enemies. We won't let that happen. And by the way,
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I don't mean to be punctilious, but we would help you fight like hell, but we would never pay the fine
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because, to me, that's submitting. And I know you obviously have a fighting spirit. I appreciate your
00:33:02.720
time today. I wish you so much good luck. Tell me the website of your organization so we can share
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it with our viewers. Yeah, absolutely. The organization's website is itstartsrightnow.ca.
00:33:13.280
If people out there are wanting to help us out with our legal fees and dealing with this issue
00:33:20.480
with Elections Canada, you're more than welcome to go to the donate button. We have a big red button
00:33:24.960
in the top right corner. You can click on that. You can join up to receive information from us.
00:33:31.360
Of course, we're involved in elections federally and provincially. Right now, there is the Conservative
00:33:37.680
Party of Canada leadership race. And as of taping, we have a week left to go to sell memberships
00:33:42.880
in order to be eligible to vote in that leadership race. So we're helping pro-lifers do that.
00:33:47.920
Who knows if we'll get investigated for that or not. But as far as I know, we're in compliance with
00:33:54.080
the act as it's written. So anyways, people can visit our website and we're on Facebook, Twitter,
00:33:58.160
Instagram. And feel free to reach out to us, you know, send us a note or whatever. It's interesting,
00:34:03.120
Ezra, we sent out an email a few minutes ago. And already, I'm just looking at my phone,
00:34:08.640
we have someone who had reached back to us saying, you know, I'm really happy that I'm a Green Party
00:34:13.920
supporter and pro-life. And I'm really happy you're getting investigated by Elections Canada,
00:34:18.400
not because I want bad things for you, but because that obviously means that you're really effective.
00:34:22.400
And so it's interesting that we got a Green Party supporter because that is a
00:34:27.280
leadership race that we're also looking into because there are a lot of people who are pro-life
00:34:31.840
that belong to the Green Party. And I mean, you can mention that earlier, we're a nonpartisan
00:34:36.160
organization. We just want to make sure we advance the pro-life issue in the House of Commons,
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in our provincial legislatures, regardless of political affiliation.
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Well, that's a perfect note to end on. And it proves the point that you are indeed nonpartisan.
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But of course, even if you were partisan, you registered, you complied. I mean, Unifor,
00:34:55.600
the journalists union, couldn't be more partisan. They despise conservatives.
00:34:59.360
They certainly haven't been investigated because they're Trudeau's errand boys. Well,
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listen, it's been a pleasure to meet you, Scott Hayward, the co-founder of Right Now.
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Good luck. And please keep in touch with us if we can help.
00:35:12.000
All right. Our pleasure. There you have it. Stay with us. More ahead on The Rebel.
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On my monologue yesterday about a Texas judge who sent a salon owner to prison, Paul writes,
00:35:29.920
this is how the left rolls. Elitist, entitled, power-hungered goons. That judge needs to be
00:35:34.240
removed from the bench. He's not a judge. He's a political stooge. You know what? I think all judges
00:35:39.520
judges are political to some degree. At least in the modern era, they get appointed by political
00:35:46.240
parties, usually based on some political partisan check. In Canada, the Liberal Party doesn't even
00:35:51.520
hide that. They check donors. They check what lawyers and law firms donate to the Liberal Party
00:35:57.760
before they make appointments. So we're no better up here than they are down there. But what they're
00:36:02.720
better at down there is they call out their judges for their politics. I'm not saying that there aren't
00:36:08.160
some amazing judges who are above politics. But both countries have partisans. The difference is
00:36:14.000
they try and hold those politically accountable. They even elect some judges down there. You know,
00:36:18.960
I'm not that opposed to that idea when I see some of the crazy rulings. Bruce writes,
00:36:23.600
I'm shocked that this happened in Texas. At least the owner didn't give a groveling apology.
00:36:28.240
Yeah, you're talking about Miss Luther again, who, Shelley Luther, I think she was so courageous and so
00:36:34.960
articulate. I would not have been that polite, I tell you that. Good for her. I think she really
00:36:39.760
is a symbol of people just done with this overreaction, don't you?
00:36:44.240
On my interview with Dave Rubin about his book, Don't Burn This Book, Troy writes,
00:36:50.160
I've been becoming a Rebel and Rubin fan. Now having watched the two of you speaking together,
00:36:53.920
I'm hooked. Great job. Well, that's nice to say. You know, I've never really interacted with him
00:36:57.760
directly before, but we've sort of orbited each other a little bit. It was nice to finally connect
00:37:02.000
with him. William writes, Dave Rubin is a great liberal. He gets close to the classical meaning of
00:37:07.360
the word. Thanks for interviewing him for a change. Well, it's funny you say that because on Monday,
00:37:12.560
Monday, well, we've hired sort of a house liberal here at Rebel News who will start working with us.
00:37:19.200
I'll wait till Monday to tell you who it is, but I'm sort of excited. And what I'm excited about
00:37:23.780
is having a liberal who doesn't believe in deplatforming or shouting or name-calling,
00:37:28.240
but rather who engages on the substance that used to be commonplace when I was a kid.
00:37:33.160
It happens pretty rarely these days. Well, I'll tell you more on Monday. Until then,
00:37:36.900
on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, see you at home. Good night.