Rebel News Podcast - Why Manitoba is a COVID-19 success story (Guest： Marty Gold)

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00:01:34.680 How has Manitoba managed this crazy coronavirus lockdown and what on earth has happened over at

00:01:56.660 the Jewish website the j.ca. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:02:19.020 Manitoba has really had almost no coronavirus cases to speak of and really a statistical rounding error

00:02:25.360 of deaths and they've had very little real enforcement of the social distancing regulations

00:02:31.500 passed by Brian Pallister's conservative government which of course is in stark contrast to places like

00:02:37.720 Quebec and Ontario where enforcement rather than education seems to be the path the government has

00:02:46.020 chosen to deal with their much much much larger virus outbreaks. Now in other news Canada's little

00:02:52.980 Jewish news website that could the j.ca just got a massive new rebrand and an enormous stable of

00:03:00.660 incredible new journalists and writers. How did that happen? Well joining me tonight is someone with a

00:03:07.280 foot in Manitoba news and a foot in managing the j.ca. Joining me tonight in an interview we recorded

00:03:13.800 yesterday afternoon is Marty Gold from the j.ca.

00:03:32.820 Joining me now from his home in Winnipeg is Marty Gold he's an independent journalist and a good friend

00:03:38.520 of the show. Marty I wanted to have you on because Manitoba from the very beginning has been sort of

00:03:45.100 going against the grain when it comes to the coronavirus when we saw other jurisdictions like

00:03:51.620 Ontario and Quebec and to a much much lesser extent Alberta doing coronavirus enforcement and these

00:04:01.740 massive fines. Manitoba was moving towards education and I think you found a lot more compliance because

00:04:08.580 of that. Well you know the situation here was very interesting in that we we you know I'll look at the

00:04:17.960 the stats as we tape today and just give me a second to pull up my whatever twitter window

00:04:22.460 uh I had this in uh courtesy of Scott Billick I'll make sure to mention him uh I follow Scott's uh he's

00:04:30.320 at the press always at the press conferences the provincial press conferences uh and and also you

00:04:35.540 know when there's there's uh they've eased off on the the uh those kinds of things now that's certain

00:04:40.080 days they just put out a notice so here's the Manitoba stats we'll we'll go off of this the total

00:04:45.080 uh remaining zero new cases total remaining cases 292 16 active cases seven deaths I'll go through

00:04:53.580 those in a second there's currently zero hospitalizations and zero in intensive care 269

00:04:59.260 recoveries so that's 269 recoveries and seven deaths out of 292 total cases uh they did about 400 tests

00:05:07.580 on Monday and there's been just under 40,000 uh tests done total now it's a very small sample size

00:05:16.280 for a population of a million uh but the number of total cases is ridiculously low here and the deaths

00:05:23.080 uh and Scott helpfully always reprints this uh man in his 70s woman in her 80s woman in their

00:05:29.360 two women in their 60s uh and then three other men in their 50s 60s and 70s so we have no deaths

00:05:35.620 under the age of 50. I remember uh that a number of these cases had pre-existing conditions some of

00:05:41.260 these people are already in rough shape but we've had almost no effect uh in terms of casualties

00:05:47.380 and the number of cases as I think you and I have discussed uh previously um this is in in no small

00:05:56.720 measure because we are so isolated here we did not have the volume of traffic air traffic in

00:06:01.880 particularly would have come from uh uh uh Iran or China and so we didn't have the spread and as

00:06:10.440 you mentioned the government here was very big on uh on education they uh essentially locked down

00:06:18.440 I'm going to turn that off because somebody thinks I'm very popular today and I'm not interested in them

00:06:23.400 for now um all right the the population here you know honestly tends to be kind of compliant with

00:06:31.460 these things we did not know we're dealing with but one thing that I think a lot of Manitobans recognized

00:06:35.380 was that if this wasn't kept under tight controls that we could end up with an influx especially from

00:06:42.420 places that don't have you know when you think of a crowded place that doesn't have you know access to

00:06:48.780 water and hygienic uh hygienic living environment it would be the numerous especially northern Manitoba

00:06:55.340 aboriginal first nation communities and so I think there was a very real and very legitimate fear

00:07:00.220 including among the aboriginal leadership that they could end up quickly with something that got way

00:07:04.540 out of hand on them uh and cause a lot of tragedy and and and we were fearing that um but Manitobans

00:07:12.840 uh there's been uh without discussing the um moral standing of these kinds of things there's been very

00:07:20.460 few fines handed out very few shops uh or restaurants or there weren't even any there might have been like

00:07:25.840 one restaurant where customers were coming onto the property that weren't allowed to access under the

00:07:31.480 Manitoba emergency conditions uh Manitobans are I think you know very often a polite compliant bunch

00:07:38.400 uh but Manitoba and Saskatchewan in particular I'm not so familiar with the numbers from the Atlantic

00:07:44.380 provinces but the numbers here have been very encouraging we did not have any kind of an over

00:07:50.540 any kind of an overwhelming of the emergency rooms in fact uh here as well as in other jurisdictions

00:07:56.040 there was a concern that people had stopped going to see doctors stopped going to hospitals

00:07:59.660 for uh you know if they're having you know the hypothesis was people could be having mild stroke

00:08:05.640 symptoms but and Manitobans are a number of us are often famous for ah it's nothing and sometimes

00:08:11.740 it's more than nothing uh so we didn't have any strain there may have been strain on the staff

00:08:16.560 in some of the hospitals where these cases were appearing uh but no overarching theme of a crisis in the

00:08:25.160 healthcare system has emerged here um business-wise we are certainly suffering casualties very well-known

00:08:33.280 restaurants are falling by the way wayside by very accomplished chains a lot of the mom and pop type

00:08:40.060 shops small coffee shops uh are obviously struggling when they couldn't have customers in a number of

00:08:46.820 places uh I don't want to say resorted to that seems like that's sort of an unfair attribution uh but

00:08:52.940 they they tried uh to mitigate the damages that they were suffering the loss they were suffering by

00:08:59.520 doing various kinds of fundraisers on platforms or whatever I don't know what's happened so much in

00:09:05.240 Alberta but here a lot of restaurants including chain places created home delivery groceries so for

00:09:11.560 instance uh there's a pizza chain that you could order ingredients to make a to make pizzas they

00:09:18.600 bring you the dough they bring you the chopped up green pepper the pepperoni the pizza sauce

00:09:23.540 I see from the look on your face that this isn't something you've necessarily heard about

00:09:27.480 um pizza hotline which is a very big Manitoba business one of the biggest if not the biggest

00:09:34.780 advertiser in normal times on television uh uh they did a fantastic job of adjusting on the fly as have a

00:09:43.460 number of Manitoba businesses uh and they put out in the regular flyer run all of a sudden it's like

00:09:49.160 make our pizzas at home and so many people now are doing that as part of family activities yeah I was

00:09:55.660 gonna say that sounds fun that sounds like something I would like to do with my kids well

00:09:59.760 and nothing against Chef Boyardee or any of those kind but you know like uh this is as close to a

00:10:06.160 restaurant pizza and unless you you know you not like you have a stone to put it on you know you

00:10:10.920 don't have a pizza oven but people I think the uptake on that and and and pizza hotline wasn't the

00:10:16.780 only one to do only wants to do this there's various kinds of restaurants uh in um in in other

00:10:23.820 fields that have tried this kind of home delivery uh of their product or come pick it up or to provide

00:10:29.780 people the ingredients to to make their own recipes uh there's been quite a bit of ingenuity that has

00:10:37.620 gone on and now gradually with the reopening um there's a you know there's rootings through some of

00:10:43.540 the the restaurants Bernstein's deli put rootings to get through their their small restaurant their

00:10:48.300 small uh their restaurant they have a uh a retail section as well um and although there are casualties

00:10:56.220 uh in the business sector uh and and uh I don't know how Premier Pallister is going to deal with the

00:11:03.180 level of debt that the province has taken on he's he's taking a lot of heat for public sector cutbacks

00:11:07.960 and layoffs uh and hydro layoffs and stuff welcome to the real world public sector folks well you know

00:11:14.960 the the controversy revolves around you know laying off people as part of an of a bigger uh phyllis

00:11:22.960 ideological um pursuit by the Pallister government uh that very well is possible I mean Brian Pallister is

00:11:32.240 no fan of of big government per se although I don't think that he's kept up to his reputation

00:11:40.360 in some aspects of how the Manitoba government has run uh but um here in Manitoba the the the fact that

00:11:51.340 there were not that there was not a big effect in the community only look seven deaths is such a small

00:11:59.800 ripple effect that people were cautious without being overly panicked you certainly see here now

00:12:08.420 and the weather got nice and it got nice in a hurry and really nice at which point the government and the

00:12:13.700 public health officers they knew that it was a chicken and egg part about opening up and encouraging

00:12:18.880 people to you know to get involved from stop get it get you know more socialized you see people

00:12:28.540 walking around with masks on the sidewalk it's kind of odd you know someone in the tank top and shorts

00:12:33.320 they're wearing a mask it's it's sort of uh you know it reminds me of the rave scene a little bit

00:12:38.320 in Vancouver you know some of the costuming is a little odd generally speaking I think Manitobans

00:12:46.040 psychologically and I I can really speak more so of Winnipeggers I I don't want to be I don't know

00:12:52.840 and we haven't had a lot of reports from rural Manitoba the smaller communities places like

00:12:57.500 Brandon but in Winnipeg I I think that this has had a lot less of a scarring effect psychologically

00:13:06.100 on the population than maybe in other centers the number of people that are uh part of the open up

00:13:12.480 crowd it's comparatively small here I I'm not deriding them I think there's some very good points

00:13:19.740 that have been made uh and I believe there was a poll maybe yesterday that 50 of Canadians believe

00:13:25.620 that we aren't being told everything the medical authorities know about this condition and how

00:13:30.800 prevalent it was I think that's correct uh there's a point at which this was for our situation because

00:13:37.160 it wasn't a widespread condition where it did seem kind of ridiculous yeah the businesses that were

00:13:42.260 weren't open and you know everybody's and I I'll I'll figure out how to say this everybody who is

00:13:49.860 interested in in fashion beauty and those industries they're all dying for the nail shops to to open up

00:13:56.320 god knows that when you know my hair yeah when when when my style stylist who's a rock and roll musician

00:14:03.080 uh him and his brothers and when they opened the shop or said they're going to look at opening I

00:14:07.580 contact him said look I I want to get in as early as possible and they really looked at me as a bit

00:14:13.080 of a guinea pig in terms of you know yeah when to sweep and when to disinfect the floors and everything

00:14:20.920 so I was one of the first customers which and I was you know a reliable character I'm not going to freak out

00:14:26.580 if something's a little you know out of pace or somebody says oh we should have done this or that

00:14:31.320 um and uh and I think that will bloom from this pretty well socially how well we do economically

00:14:41.920 hard to say taxi industry suffering the level of violence here yeah has become disturbing um in

00:14:50.940 winnipeg 14 shooting reports of of gunfire I don't want to say shootings I think one guy was I think shot

00:14:58.320 and four four stabbings over the weekend that there was a murder on a bus a stabbing on a bus

00:15:05.080 uh in the neighborhood groups uh that I belong to on facebook uh whether it's river heights or

00:15:12.880 st boniface or what's called scotia heights the part of the uh north end of winnipeg and this the uh

00:15:19.600 uh the area towards kildona park there's a lot of people having their cars broken into people having

00:15:26.620 their their yards vandalized lots and lots and lots of that and so uh you've had an acting out

00:15:34.680 I guess of in particular people that um you know I ran a column in my newsletter in the city circus

00:15:42.500 newsletter I don't know if you saw it where a a long time winnipeg writer talked about you know

00:15:47.720 rubbies and junkies and people don't like that language anymore I've taken heat for it I've used in

00:15:52.480 the past but there is a certain subclass in every society but in winnipeg in particular it's always

00:15:57.780 been here of people that are derelicts that that their life revolves around a miserable existence

00:16:03.340 and to some extent for some of them it is self-inflicted where they refuse help now how much of that goes

00:16:08.420 back to mental health um uh indicators or or root causes I understand all that but ultimately the public

00:16:15.900 here does not feel they're being adequately protected from a lot of those elements yeah and and that's a real

00:16:21.400 challenge for the city police and it's a challenge for the attorney general as well uh this is

00:16:26.020 something it's I think I think more people are now aware because with less activity on the streets the

00:16:33.060 zombies are more obvious yeah they don't blend in there's nothing to blend in when there was nobody

00:16:38.280 on the streets and and notwithstanding the need for shelters and social services um I I think that

00:16:47.700 more people understand even if they didn't agree with it before I think people didn't understand the

00:16:52.860 nature of lock them up for you know detention orders they're starting to see that there's cause

00:16:59.200 for it Osborne Village is is is having a big problem not only with economic downturn vacant spaces

00:17:06.940 etc but the public safety aspect is turning people off from going down to Osborne Village at all

00:17:13.860 and it's the most densely I think still was 15 years ago the most densely populated neighborhood

00:17:19.240 in the country and there's going to be it shouldn't take you know a really bad serious violent incident

00:17:28.500 in Osborne Village for the city government to wake up uh in particular but you've got the mayor and a lot

00:17:34.740 of counselors that coddle these kinds of elements that bend over backwards in the realm of social justice

00:17:41.080 uh activism uh and what we end up with is a situation that uh you know I can mention I haven't

00:17:47.720 had a chance to look too deeply into it but uh over in the exchange in the east exchange exchange district

00:17:53.820 which is normally you know it's like four blocks from city hall like near downtown uh there's a tent city

00:18:00.540 that was taken down once as I recall there's a I think a couple of teepees were set up in this winter

00:18:05.280 and was being taken down and and there might have been there's a fire I think of one of them

00:18:09.640 well now there's like 25 tents and this is near a lot of the social service agencies like Salvation

00:18:15.620 Army stuff like that and there seems to be no supervision of it whatsoever and now the neighbors

00:18:21.140 there's small residential clusters like one or two streets uh in South Point Douglas and over in North

00:18:27.520 Point Douglas and the Israeli freeway was the creation 1960 like split this neighborhood by bringing

00:18:33.340 people from uh East Kildon and from the east side of Winnipeg into the downtown but I'm hearing from

00:18:38.340 people on both sides of the Israeli freeway where this tent city is set up over here that

00:18:44.160 they're having break-ins harassment vandalism and nobody's listening to them including the city

00:18:51.500 councillor and there's a number of city councillors that they they whenever they talk about public

00:18:56.580 safety it's like they'll they'll they'll twist it like we've heard it from a lot of people who are

00:19:01.240 concerned about public safety and I am also concerned about these people out in the streets well

00:19:05.260 you know they make it like it's about the people that are the perps yeah and their concern isn't

00:19:11.780 with the victims of the crime because somehow you know look in Winnipeg we've got an element that says

00:19:18.280 that when you're in the middle of a of a 911 call and and you're driving a stolen car waving around a

00:19:24.360 weapon at a domestic call and you get shot and killed by the police you're a victim of a police

00:19:28.500 shooting right well the word victim here has been twisted a little bit nonetheless I think that

00:19:33.300 there's going to be some reckoning to be had with regards to the crime here the business side

00:19:38.760 who it's there's no way of knowing what's going to happen um the gold ice season is threatened you

00:19:45.020 know Sam Cates did a great interview on CJOB radio with Kathy Kennedy a couple of weeks ago about it I

00:19:50.360 mean he'll have no revenue that ball team will have no revenue for like 18 or 19 months if there's no

00:19:55.320 baseball season what's going to happen to the lease they're trying to renegotiate the lease for the

00:19:59.480 stadium which is a beautiful one of the best minor league parks best experiences around

00:20:04.500 what happens if there's no gold ice and there's no one to lease that stadium then the city's got a

00:20:10.540 like a white elephant on its hands because they're going to take it back in a couple years

00:20:14.080 so a lot of complexities to this with the bombers as well um the whether jets the jets would make the

00:20:21.760 playoffs in that revamped system nobody knows which direction it's going to going to go a lot of

00:20:25.860 people are obviously concerned winnipeg is economically wheezy at the best of times there

00:20:31.340 are some very strong entrepreneurs that have have um made headway during this period and a lot i want

00:20:38.220 to say there's a lot of very strong people in the first responders health care workers um a lot of

00:20:45.500 businesses have moved into making masks and if for those that feel they're immunocompromised for those

00:20:51.780 who feel it's uh a precaution they want to take i'm not going to criticize that i know others do

00:20:57.300 i'm not going to pick on people for doing what they think is right in under these circumstances to

00:21:02.480 protect themselves uh even though it's obviously not a big issue in winnipeg but you don't want it to

00:21:07.460 be a big issue for you or your family um we've certainly seen the ingenuity of manitobans come

00:21:12.260 forward uh and the the palestine government has tried to keep i think essentially a very low profile

00:21:17.280 uh through this uh and i think manitoba is in a lot of ways certainly better off than ontario and

00:21:23.240 quebec and british columbia oh i can't compare us to isn't that the truth i mean ontario i think a lot

00:21:31.860 of ontario's cases have been travel related or next to travel related and then they're all after that

00:21:39.720 just about all of them are in nursing homes and extended care facilities so it's the vulnerable

00:21:45.960 it's travel related it's the things that people who have been talking about closing the borders

00:21:51.740 have been talking about since the very beginning yeah you know we closed the borders here um and and

00:21:59.340 we we only had a few there was one cluster of cases in a trucking company uh and another in in a

00:22:07.180 seniors care facility i i i can't remember if it was in i think it was in gimley um and there was maybe

00:22:13.840 five cases there we were very lucky that we did not seem to have that what's gone on in ontario

00:22:18.500 i i watched premier ford's press conference he's obviously deeply shaken uh by by those reports

00:22:27.980 i i think in manitoba we and we've got a a number of old timers in homes in this province i think we

00:22:34.740 count ourselves very very fortunate that that we did not have an outbreak of of any measurable you

00:22:42.960 know of any real consequence here in in winnipeg and in the province very fortunate indeed this is

00:22:47.140 one time we're being in a small relatively small insulated insular isolated kind of place has worked

00:22:57.100 in the in favor of manitoba and in favor of saskatchewa yeah and i think uh your business

00:23:03.660 community is going to see the benefit of that um in alberta like alberta is leading the reopen

00:23:10.200 um but we had to stagger our reopen which as someone who lives in the northern part of the

00:23:17.400 province i'm glad because we weren't held accountable for what was going on in uh calgary

00:23:23.160 and in brooks where the meat plants were but yeah you know calgary they got the warning that

00:23:30.000 they weren't going to reopen with the rest of the province like 12 hours before the scheduled

00:23:35.700 relaunch and so there was restauranteurs and stores that were hiring staff they planned to reopen they'd

00:23:41.440 order supplies and they got the rug pulled right out from underneath them and i think you're not going

00:23:46.180 to have that happen in manitoba and i think that you know that delayed relaunch in calgary with very

00:23:52.700 little notice i think that might have killed some businesses who are just on the cusp of surviving

00:23:58.220 yeah it's the whole situation in calgary uh i i i only hear anecdotally i don't have a lot of

00:24:04.900 contacts in calgary and edmonton just a few but nobody talks optimistically yeah about those

00:24:11.160 communities at this stage and that that predates the pandemic honestly i mean when you've got don

00:24:16.660 ivison and and nenshi leading your cities uh it's very hard to be optimistic yeah add that to four

00:24:24.920 years of rachel notley and then going on five with justin trudeau and it's a perfect storm

00:24:30.440 it's i just want to mention when you when when when you when you bring that up you'll remember that

00:24:36.220 and the when that election took place in 2015 was it yep and i said we didn't even know each other at

00:24:43.700 time we were you know knew each other through facebook or whatever and i said welcome to manitoba

00:24:47.360 stand yeah and sure enough when the selinger rat finks start abandoning ship and migrating to alberta

00:24:54.480 and ruining your province yes same kind of marxist forward thinkers that uh undermine manitoba and

00:25:02.660 it's one of the reasons why the pallister government and pallister comes with his own baggage certainly

00:25:06.740 uh uh not so much the cabinet ministers but pallister rubs a lot of people the wrong way and has

00:25:14.700 continued to do so but boy the what what they were trying to overcome here in terms of what was done

00:25:20.860 to undermine the economy and and to undermine regulation uh uh uh uh uh you know the the way laws were set

00:25:28.980 up for different industries the mining industry we just had i haven't even been able to think about

00:25:34.420 this yet we just had an auditor's report last week about um it's a quarry rehabilitation fund

00:25:42.160 so you you know when you when uh when uh when uh uh you need to uh uh i don't know how to put it

00:25:51.160 rehabilitate reclaim yes reclaim lands that have been you know dug up and and whatever and it turns out

00:25:59.200 that there was no contracts tendered after 2005 even though in the annual reports they referred to we

00:26:05.140 have we this year there were you know 80 uh 80 contracts had out and they never differentiated

00:26:10.820 between the ones that were hand out sole sourced and the ones were tendered none have been tendered

00:26:16.320 since 2005 because shades of the city of winnipeg they would take uh uh uh situation a plot of land

00:26:24.880 where there may be three different mining sites in an area that should have been one big project they

00:26:29.040 split it up to be all be under 50 grand so it wouldn't need a tender and who was handing out the

00:26:32.920 contracts the inspectors and so in quebec you and i know we'd be looking for the brown envelopes

00:26:38.780 this was under the ndp government and they only the audit only looked to 2010 it was the same

00:26:44.600 minister responsible for mines not that you'll read this in any winnipeg media outlet that dave

00:26:49.640 chomiak was singularly responsible as the minister of mines from about 2006 i think till the fall of

00:26:56.080 the selinger government palliser government comes in and they see there's something not right with the

00:27:00.400 reporting and then the order would do uh google uh google earth searches and so they've got a you know

00:27:06.940 an invoice that was paid for for something to be cleaned up and you look on google earth and there's

00:27:11.720 no evidence any work was done and barely i barely touched the surface of that story in the media

00:27:18.140 there was a good report by cbc but didn't go into what the really interesting stuff was in the report

00:27:23.740 about the the excuses and you know the slipperiness internally and meanwhile the ndp was happy

00:27:30.800 to i think we you and i can surmise that some of these sole source contracts went to people who

00:27:38.660 surely would have been found as contributing to ndp campaigns in the aftermath of the whether the

00:27:43.940 cleanup took place or not right a little mini poster inherited a little mini winnipeg style sponsorship

00:27:52.640 scandal and when when palister drained the swamp of all those ndp fixers that were in government a lot

00:28:00.000 of them fled to alberta for jobs with rachel notley so yeah yeah and i still feel sorry for you folks

00:28:06.360 they're having to try to clean that mess up we're still getting rid of them now i wanted to talk to

00:28:11.600 you um because we're going on about 26 minutes here i wanted to talk to you about your uh non-secular

00:28:20.540 project we've talked about your work with city circus and the newsletter and maybe you want to tell

00:28:25.200 people how to sign up for that in a second but your work with the j.ca you guys just went

00:28:31.740 through a major relaunch and it has been incredible i've never seen a website relaunch and hit the ground

00:28:41.820 running and i cannot get over the caliber of writers that you have however i'd like to point out that

00:28:48.560 good editors make great writers um we try you guys have rounded up like every single right wing or

00:28:56.620 center and right uh jewish jewish journalists in the entire country and they're writing these

00:29:02.500 incredible articles for you guys all of a sudden like out of the blue i have to tell you that i

00:29:07.360 wouldn't even really know that that you're i'm sure you're correct but i wouldn't know because

00:29:12.320 you know there's been some it's interesting how people have gravitated to the platform what we did was

00:29:18.360 uh by for a bit of backstory uh uh when we we rushed the j out a year ago 13 months ago in the uh in

00:29:27.980 the midst of the linda sarsour incursion into winnipeg right uh and this was a major battleground

00:29:33.900 for not just the jews and the pro-israel crowd in winnipeg but people that that generally aren't

00:29:39.280 identified with that who just uh felt that this was uh you know a move by marxists to try to normalize

00:29:46.460 points of view and normalized speakers who are are clearly vile and and reprehensible and so we

00:29:53.540 rushed the website out originally and and uh and pretty much with every appearance i've been on

00:29:58.800 with you in the last year whereas we've talked about whatever stories we're covering there

00:30:02.300 largely focused on anti-semitism whether it's incidents um of anti-semitism or just incidents

00:30:08.940 of neo-nazis bubbling up in alberta saskatchewan and uh of course coverage from winnipeg and and it's

00:30:15.560 things in toronto like what went on at york university with the well with the posters and

00:30:19.620 and and etc and then ron east our publisher and uh you know ron i first i met ron i his father

00:30:27.940 mentored me as followers pretty much know and so i've known ron since before his bar mitzvah actually

00:30:33.680 uh since he was 12 and so he had a vision for this uh that we we didn't have a lot of resources to put

00:30:40.600 into it we we stayed the course uh kept it established then as as this came up we were

00:30:46.120 already going how do we emerge from this not knowing what was going to happen knowing the

00:30:51.980 jewish community you know the traditional jewish newspapers are not going to handle this well

00:30:56.940 because they rely on you know come to our speakers event or or you know the the hanukkah party and

00:31:03.220 they rely on that kind of advertising and with no events there's no advertising we weren't reliant

00:31:08.940 on advertising uh not we didn't have any real revenue but we weren't reliant on advertising

00:31:13.800 and so he already wanted to to go to a national a more national scope and then when the canadian

00:31:20.680 jewish news around april the jeez it might even been april the second i think announced that the

00:31:25.540 next week they were going to be folding after 101 years and immediately we were contacted by people

00:31:31.140 who were fans of what we did and asking will you can you expand nationally and in particular uh

00:31:42.640 you know there's some particular ideas about how to do it we hired dave gordon on as managing editor

00:31:47.980 from toronto who is such an accomplished writer and i only knew dave by name uh the internet's a weird

00:31:54.000 thing where you think you know people but you don't and dave is brilliant uh he's written for so many

00:31:59.760 newspapers and magazines and the the roster that's been put together is you know 90 his doing he

00:32:07.120 already knew a lot of these people and he knew if he didn't know them how to reach out to them

00:32:11.480 yeah and the uptake there's like a hundred writers he sent me a list today that i haven't gone through

00:32:16.440 asked me to take some directly um and we've got a major sports writer coming on board uh uh uh and

00:32:25.920 and uh a correspondent from the west coast but he's asked me to take on some he's got a hundred

00:32:31.560 writers still lined up that all want to contribute and uh it's funny because one of our

00:32:38.420 one of our new correspondents um had posted uh on twitter whatever and promoting her story about how

00:32:47.140 we have the most diverse lineup and she started naming off all these you know the identity politics crowd

00:32:52.260 and and i suggested dave to you know explain to her we didn't go out of our way to do that

00:32:58.680 yeah if we've got i don't care if somebody's a lesbian i don't care if they're an immigrant i don't care

00:33:05.340 if uh if they're uh honestly i don't care if they're right wing and i don't really care if they're left

00:33:11.000 wing because i obviously have lots of left-wing friends there are left-wing jews that are pro-israel

00:33:14.960 pro-zionist yeah the there is a dividing line on the left i there might be one on the right but i've never

00:33:20.980 encountered it but there's a dividing line on the jewish left that we've detailed between the

00:33:25.940 progressives that are marxists more so than they are pro-israel uh that attack the israeli defense

00:33:33.160 force that called the called soldiers serving the idea of baby murderers and all this other stuff

00:33:39.520 that are essentially a lot of them are like anti-netanyahu and that bleeds over into their

00:33:44.480 views and their statements about israel we have two criteria you have to favor the survival of the

00:33:53.300 jewish people and you have to support the state of israel as a home for the jewish people and dave

00:34:01.400 gordon and has done a great job as managing editor uh terry pilts from montreal came on board also and

00:34:07.740 what a great guy he is and he's handling our social media he's revamped the twitter feed and the facebook

00:34:12.800 page and they are flourishing um i only assist with you know uh to some extent that people are

00:34:21.120 caught you know uh congratulations on the relaunch then i'll thank them i'll retweet the you know some

00:34:25.600 of the some of that stuff but the messaging for the stories themselves except pretty much for mine

00:34:30.280 are coming from from terry and then dave backing it up as well we've been so fortunate to be able to

00:34:37.060 get our the kind of writers we have uh jacob uh glogauer is great eagle heck got us an interview

00:34:43.760 with the new israeli minister of public security um baba botech who's the daughter of rabbi shmuley

00:34:50.540 botech who's got like a million followers on facebook uh and and is a very influential modern jewish

00:34:58.160 thinker um she came to us and is providing columns uh her grandfather uh who was a um a major

00:35:10.340 businessman property holder in los angeles y'all have just passed away a couple of days ago and we've

00:35:16.420 of course extended our sympathies uh to the family uh and i was able to look up a little bit about that

00:35:22.100 but you know when when rabbi shmuley is is telling people how great our website is and so you know

00:35:28.860 this story or that story about of whether it's about israeli government or life in israel when you

00:35:33.680 get that kind of support out there so our growth has been exponential we have uh abu dandanchi who's

00:35:41.000 a syrian immigrant who's a brilliant writer i mean if you want to have somebody who doesn't need any

00:35:45.180 editing there's a guy who who needs no help getting his messages across and explaining

00:35:51.040 the thought patterns in the in the islamist world yeah and and trends in the arab world towards

00:35:58.040 uh our communities um and you mentioned i but you may not imagine suen levy came on board and i was

00:36:04.420 so happy to help her love suen and and she's already provided two columns one was a very touching piece

00:36:11.500 about uh about um how the covid uh isolations affected the jewish traditions of sitting shiva

00:36:20.000 and going you know going to funerals and then sitting shiva and then the mourning period

00:36:24.000 and suen did a really beautiful piece about about that in her family and then followed up with a

00:36:30.580 fantastic story that honestly i wish i'd have written uh about uh you know self-hating jews jewish

00:36:36.440 anti-semites uh and it was a great analysis um we have a lot of uh you know there's various kinds of

00:36:43.720 you know more politically oriented writers uh doran uh berger did a story of about leswin lewis

00:36:52.220 and i guess she did a town hall maybe in toronto and he picked off the material that was of interest

00:36:56.900 to the jewish community and the pro-israel crowd great i thought that she was a great candidate

00:37:01.320 for people with those points of view um we have a we had a column for yomir shalom for the

00:37:08.500 uh day celebrating jerusalem from moisha phillips and of hirut north america who's been a tremendous

00:37:14.780 friend for us and speaking of people from hirut that are friends lauren isaac so i think you've

00:37:19.520 interviewed love lauren lauren went to israel uh just before the lockdowns uh hit on mass she was in

00:37:27.560 a two-week isolation when she got to israel she takes a trip there every year and makes the news most

00:37:33.020 of the time and during the course of uh about i guess four days into her isolation lauren decided

00:37:39.740 that she was going to make the big move and be and make aliyah as we say elevate herself to becoming

00:37:46.580 a citizen of israel and she wrote a wonderful column about um about her feelings and her family's

00:37:54.920 reaction that she i mean nobody knew her is surprised by this but she's decided to jump in

00:37:59.700 with both feet and she will be a regular calmness for us great leaving her post with hirut as director

00:38:06.940 of hirut in toronto but she's going to be a regular calmness for us so we have not only her there's

00:38:12.600 others where we have canadian voices from israel contributing to us um we are reaching out in

00:38:20.120 atlantic canada uh i've got an option now for vancouver uh we're going to try to fill in the rest of

00:38:26.580 regions you know canadian jewish community is so um there's look it's it's like being being the

00:38:33.000 neighbor of the united states there's 390 000 jews in the country but 300 000 of them are between

00:38:37.340 toronto and montreal so when they roll over you kind of notice uh but it's been very gratifying for

00:38:43.200 us that the toronto crowd and the montreal crowd have been very there's been some stories that that

00:38:49.820 raised eyebrows um for instance dave gordon and i yeah i apologize i don't remember the co-author uh

00:38:56.280 just now i haven't had the chance to speak with with the gentleman they had written a story and hadn't

00:39:01.400 had any place to put it yet about the 72 million dollar jewish community center and this calm

00:39:07.840 strongly questioned whether this was a good idea compared to the level of poverty in toronto which

00:39:14.240 i understand for senior citizens approaches 25 in that city and you know in winnipeg as you'll

00:39:22.880 remember as you will know when the canadian museum for human rights came up and all of a sudden they

00:39:28.100 started panhandling you know the world's richest panhandlers started asking the federal government

00:39:33.120 to bail them out i was on kick fm radio along with various other commentators and bloggers in

00:39:40.240 winnipeg very critical of this and the door government handed over 20 million dollars in

00:39:45.200 two different years to keep bailing the museum out without a vote in the legislature and you know i

00:39:51.400 would there would be visitors to winnipeg important visitors uh including people from you know the

00:39:56.540 diplomatic sector and i would be asked to give them a tour of winnipeg and show them what's going on

00:40:01.980 they want to know what's really going on not just go to cocktail parties if you hit the lights right

00:40:06.640 in three minutes you're in neighborhoods from the museum like down one street down another street

00:40:13.060 just keep driving and then go on to the residential side streets where there's abject poverty miserable

00:40:18.440 conditions and i tell them when you wonder why not everybody loves the museum it's because the door

00:40:23.520 government was more interested in what gary doer was interested in sucking up to the upper class because

00:40:29.420 gary loved doing that and yet here's the level of poverty a five minute drive how do we justify

00:40:35.420 by private donations fine now the museum also badly affected the not-for-profit sector here in

00:40:44.380 winnipeg and osborne house where i ended up working for a while as managing as operations manager and

00:40:49.700 other charities they suffered because there's a lot of high pressure arm twisting by the canadian

00:40:55.720 museum for human right the friends yes who are doing it and it hurt a lot of charities a lot of

00:41:01.140 non-profits in this city to this very day well in toronto apparently they've never had this kind of

00:41:07.440 open discussion they've never had anybody come up and really question whether whether this falls too

00:41:17.200 much into the category of empire building and monuments to to philanthropy as opposed to service to

00:41:25.040 the community right and i i was very surprised there was a lot of heated comments criticizing that

00:41:35.760 story which to me was a perfectly normal thing to question millions of dollars of spending within the

00:41:41.200 community on one priority as opposed to another priority but it got people paying attention and it

00:41:46.520 got us feedback and it got us people saying we want to write an op-ed for you uh and so it served that

00:41:53.040 purpose um the one story that i was able to to generate because i'm very occupied with you know

00:42:00.000 back of the book stuff now uh and we're still really you know working on the business side and

00:42:06.280 and and um and some of the you know uh looking towards scheduling future stories you know different

00:42:13.080 ideas and topics and and whatever that we want to start being able to find writers and assigning them to

00:42:17.900 but i was able to get to put together some news about our dear friend firaz al-najim who we've

00:42:23.780 talked about before and he of course made headlines in toronto this would now be two weekends ago uh

00:42:29.700 that dragged in an an mpp in toronto after he stood outside of a mosque on the under terms of the exemption

00:42:38.400 of the noise by law for the call to prayer and uh he proceeded to politicize the religious call to

00:42:45.720 prayer for devout muslims with various statements about the criminal zionist regime and blah blah blah

00:42:51.880 blah blah blah and uh the mosque in question jafari mosques said that they didn't know this individual

00:42:59.720 and this wasn't authorized except that they supported a letter he sent the prime minister trudeau protesting

00:43:07.340 something other a year or two ago and they he spoke in support of a zoning variance or something that

00:43:14.440 they were seeking at toronto city council so the mosque definitely knew faraz faraz definitely knew

00:43:20.120 the mosque the denial and criticism of the mpp for questioning whether we had anything to do with

00:43:25.860 this or supported it you know they they lectured the mpp on it she then got dumped on by minute by

00:43:31.220 people in the jewish community for backing down and lo and behold what none of them knew was

00:43:36.080 toronto wasn't the first time he had done this that faraz had at the end of april and then the first

00:43:40.680 week of may gone to ottawa pulled the same stunt the mayor of ottawa jim watson got a complaint

00:43:47.080 uh he then got a second complaint when faraz did the replay the following friday

00:43:51.900 where maybe it was a thursday night actually that he did it again uh now mayor watson sent it to the

00:43:59.240 city lawyer the city solicitor who referred it to the police who blew off the complainant in a manner

00:44:04.920 that i thought really betrayed you know in this in january we're reviving the hate crimes unit there's

00:44:10.440 too much ottawa and then when they get a complaint well thank you if you have anything else to tell us

00:44:14.940 i don't know like yeah yeah what about the part where they say we will uh we will meet with people

00:44:19.140 we will offer them counseling we will talk with them none of that yeah however it did wake up jim watson

00:44:25.380 who i don't know from a hole in the ground the mayor of ottawa i'm always happy to rattle a mayor's

00:44:29.020 cage anywhere in this country but it woke him up and so when we revealed that toronto that ottawa was

00:44:35.720 like the the the trial balloon that he tested this out in ottawa first i guess to see if you know the

00:44:41.920 cops are going to come apprehend him with truncheons or i don't know what yeah to see whether the jewish

00:44:46.000 community with the jewish federation would rise up and say something of course in ottawa they said

00:44:50.960 nothing as federations often don't in this country jewish federations um so we were i got i ran that

00:44:58.300 story i was able to put those details together from the emails and this shocked people that he

00:45:03.160 was able to do this in ottawa the toronto in particular media was following up on the complaints

00:45:10.300 about what's the mpp's name uh uh marlo i think gina marlo i think is her name that they were following

00:45:16.000 up on this but none of them knew that he'd already been gallivanting elsewhere in ontario

00:45:20.700 pulling this and he's just done the same thing in niagara falls if my information is correct i haven't

00:45:27.800 checked it yet uh and so um you know we we are able i'm able to still in this role as the editor

00:45:34.300 of this expanded national edition i'm going to continue to focus on these kinds of stories

00:45:37.660 about anti-semitic activity of the reaction you know the political canadian political end the

00:45:42.880 domestic end and the police center responses to this but as i said dave and and tevi uh have put

00:45:50.280 together a fantastic just a fantastic lineup and run is uh east has also recruited a few uh a few

00:45:57.440 writers as well agnes imami i want to mention her because she came to us she started up she felt

00:46:01.720 kind of helpless about the rise of anti-semitism in this country and started a facebook group

00:46:05.580 uh jays against jews against anti-semitism canada and then she was the creator of the anti-semitism

00:46:11.660 toolbox series speaker series and you know these are quality people that are coming forward looking

00:46:19.060 for something that can replace the canadian jewish news we don't have a gestetner there's no plan yet

00:46:24.320 to put out a physical print edition but we are looking at putting out a pdf version because we

00:46:30.600 know that a lot of uh a lot of babas and zetas and a lot of rabbis and rabbits and they like to print

00:46:37.380 out these kinds of things and then they can read them on on on shabbos and on jewish holidays and

00:46:42.900 whatever so we're looking towards a pdf version i am i am personally very happy entirely happy with the

00:46:49.660 look with the reception we've gotten with the social media growth and the fact that this isn't

00:46:55.040 only uh what they want to make clear it's not only you know although you've identified that we've

00:46:59.480 corralled a lot of the reading the leading writers and thinkers and that they do want to be part of

00:47:04.020 what we're doing we don't exclude listen i'm i'm the editor of a national platform now that as as i'm told

00:47:10.320 by one of our writers three lesbian writers who knew but i don't care what cares yeah i don't care i

00:47:17.820 and i think there's a lot of people who've been released people who thought we went looking for

00:47:22.460 that we didn't go looking forward it came to us because of the credibility that ron east has been

00:47:30.640 able to generate for the j.ca not only in in you know what what we've produced in terms of the content

00:47:39.360 my writing and some of the other contributors we've had um but the credibility that he brings when he's

00:47:45.460 talked to jewish leadership with jewish organizations sometimes his style has rubbed people the wrong

00:47:50.160 way because he believes that our community and our friends we need to stand up we need to raise our

00:47:56.600 voices we need to challenge those who would endanger us we need to challenge policies that that uh

00:48:03.880 marginalize the state of israel and and that and that um unfairly um demonize or criticize israeli

00:48:14.020 government practices or policies of the idf but all these people uh have willingly come under our tent

00:48:21.080 uh and and it's i never imagined i would have this kind of a staff and this kind of a roster

00:48:30.900 and we're adding more and more columns and and features uh in the next week two weeks we'll have the

00:48:37.100 newest we're putting out stories tonight wednesday night three more stories one other thing i forgot to

00:48:41.960 mention please indulge me the jewish news syndicate came to uh basically was brought to us and we have

00:48:48.800 an exchange deal with them now so we are able to run jns stories from you know jewish uh life great

00:48:56.760 sciences uh uh political stuff from around the world uh and they will be able to run our stories from

00:49:04.140 canada and give those issues a worldwide audience as well uh on a very respected a very respected

00:49:12.700 platform so uh i i'm i i can't take credit we have a webmaster who's a genius and run worked with him

00:49:20.280 has worked with him and tevi also directly for i mean nobody's been sleeping for about two weeks i'm

00:49:26.760 hoping that that eases off and we welcome uh people to go to the j.ca uh you can sign up for

00:49:34.100 the newsletter uh for the newsletter which will generally alert you that the new stories are

00:49:38.440 being posted on our facebook page uh there's alerts also when new stories are posted we'll try to get

00:49:44.100 up a couple of jns stories every day as well as some domestic content and then a mini push every

00:49:49.500 pretty much wednesday depending on jewish holidays fall and the new additional come out from the looks of

00:49:54.720 on our schedule every sunday evening for the foreseeable future through the summer i would

00:49:59.420 think we'll stick to that schedule i'm i'm very lucky right place right time honestly that this need

00:50:05.880 uh emerged there was already a need for something other than the canadian jewish news which you know

00:50:13.380 is great for archival content but it had swung very far to the left under the the editorial direction

00:50:20.200 the last few years uh i'm told that the board um wasn't really as cognizant of that didn't really

00:50:26.460 understand that that's what was going on if it wasn't for that the j.ca probably wouldn't have had

00:50:30.920 nearly the traction it did especially among israeli canadians uh but i'm right place right time

00:50:37.200 runs a fantastic leader uh and dave and tevi have uh worked miracles in eastern canada pulling together

00:50:44.520 the content the writers doing the majority of the of the of the editing and working with us to we're

00:50:50.280 trying to find you know we were trying to figure out what are we going to provide it turns out we're

00:50:55.220 providing everything we've got a we got beauty columns you've got dating columns parenting columns

00:51:01.360 there will be the the more expected rabbinical stuff you know the stuff that relates back to um

00:51:08.000 to living a jewish life as well as the political analysis both of the united states canada the eu

00:51:14.980 and of course the state of israel it's uh it's a it's like going how do i put this it's like going

00:51:22.080 to a carnival and there's all these great rides and all these great things to to taste all these

00:51:28.160 different columns and ideas to taste and to try out and i couldn't be prouder you know this

00:51:33.340 i don't talk about this stuff publicly and i decided not to write a column about it but i will

00:51:39.860 mention it to you as we tape this this is the anniversary on the hebrew calendar of the death

00:51:46.280 of my father it's his yortzai and in the jewish tradition uh the days are days calendar days start

00:51:54.360 the night before so tuesday night is wednesday is a young is uh uh yom shli shi for us the third day

00:52:02.320 of the week the days don't have names except for shabbat except for the sabbath and so as you and i

00:52:08.160 talk this is the anniversary on the hebrew calendar of my father's death and um he died at age 44

00:52:16.780 and life was a struggle for my parents uh the family business in which he worked folded in 1970

00:52:23.840 the pot business and uh i don't know that my father had ever contemplated working outside the family

00:52:31.240 business uh and um he tried some other ventures got went to red river college and graduated from the

00:52:43.220 creative communications class he loved advertising so he graduated from crecom before they even called

00:52:48.760 it crecom and uh i had my own involvement with the crecom department through kick fm

00:52:54.100 and uh i know that there would be a great deal of pride seeing a kid who was pretty happy and full

00:53:05.380 of ideas uh who wanted to be a sports writer essentially but i was your book editor and i

00:53:10.760 wrote for the high school newspaper but he never saw you know i i never did anything that he was alive

00:53:17.380 to see even my first work in radio i started three days before he died at the university manitoba radio

00:53:24.520 station so he never even heard any of my any of my broadcasts on radio and um it's not redemption

00:53:32.500 because i don't think i need to be redeemed from anything uh but i would never been able to follow

00:53:38.060 this path of um speaking out on behalf of the jewish community speaking out out on behalf of even

00:53:46.420 behalf of jews that are not at the forefront compared to the sometimes the big shots that

00:53:51.620 like to steamroll the rest of the community we were little guys in the jewish community but we

00:53:55.540 were very respected from my family's involvement with the with the misraki with the canadian zionist

00:54:01.040 federation with the pioneer women and so um to some extent i've kind of come home with this

00:54:06.800 and my brother my brother messaged me last night about this and um i know that my father my mother

00:54:17.600 died four years after i know my father would be very proud that my friendship with amis rocky family

00:54:24.900 who ended up moving in 12 houses down the block from my grandparents house and with ron east that

00:54:31.660 we've been able to ride this out and develop this baby and now give the jews of canada and and the

00:54:37.580 support of the jewish community the support of the state of israel in this country something that is

00:54:41.340 robust something that has quality something that will always stand up for what's right and that will

00:54:49.420 always speak truth to power i know my father would be very proud of that you're making me a little

00:54:54.940 over clamped here if i'm using that word properly yeah you did you know what i wasn't expecting it

00:55:01.680 either but i i i want to mention that that um i i know from my own background and the difficulties

00:55:10.720 my brother and sister have had in their lives the um how difficult it is to lose a parent

00:55:18.000 especially when you still need them um my dad died when he was 44 and my mom when she was

00:55:24.740 48 and that's already 40 you know 40 years ago and it's affected me it's affected my children

00:55:31.940 and my grandchildren in very adverse ways but ultimately

00:55:37.220 the way i was raised and the values i was raised with i am able to express and to promote

00:55:48.440 and to promulgate through the j.ca and if for as long as this part of the ride lasts if this is my

00:55:58.720 legacy i'm proud of it marty i want to that's a great uh place to end the interview i just want to

00:56:06.860 give you a chance uh before we wrap up to uh let people know where they can find some of the other

00:56:12.560 work that you do how they can sign up for your city circus newsletter because you are doing work

00:56:17.480 in winnipeg that i don't really think is being done at least in edmonton i know in calgary they do

00:56:22.700 have save calgary who does some of the municipal accountability work but you really are kind of the

00:56:28.780 only guy on the block in winnipeg doing it and how do people sign up for that what happened was that

00:56:34.020 in uh in april right around the time we got the call about you know from outside interests suggesting

00:56:40.540 that we uh that we uh expand the j around the same time i had realized that there was a serious gap in

00:56:47.320 winnipeg where there's always a gap winnipeg reporting was getting more serious because so

00:56:50.200 many reporters were being assigned to covet stories that there was again this like the what was going

00:56:56.320 on with the police shootings that i was interviewed by you about they weren't looking into the background

00:57:01.000 of the people that were getting involved with police uh because their behavior was resulting

00:57:06.340 in 911 calls and the public was feeling endangered uh and so i thought the best route was to put out

00:57:11.760 a newsletter uh that it's not like putting out something every day i i try to put out once a week

00:57:17.060 and so there'll be three or four stories i've got guest columns from people that provide submissions

00:57:22.560 i create an ad to promote a particular restaurant in winnipeg business uh that's uh overcome trying to

00:57:29.020 overcome their lockdown problems or whatever uh and uh and uh um of course you know promote

00:57:35.400 independent journalism uh and i thank those that have uh have uh put a little something forward to the

00:57:41.600 uh hard drive and monitor fund because that's what any of those contributions go for is equipment

00:57:46.680 upgrades at this stage uh city circus i only put out the subscribers though i you know and i should

00:57:52.360 have asked you about this but people are thinking i should start just putting the urls out there

00:57:56.980 so it gets a more general distribution if people want to subscribe to city circus and get an inside

00:58:02.700 look at some of the nonsense that goes on involving city councillors and city policies crime police and

00:58:08.480 i'm going to start touching on provincial stuff too since winnipeg is essentially manitoba um

00:58:13.480 i if you get a copy of it there is a there is a subscribe button on the newsletter at the bottom

00:58:21.200 but otherwise if people want to email me marty gold live at gmail.com send me a note i'll add you

00:58:26.880 to the subscription list or get a hold of me on twitter at tgcts i may have to change that handle

00:58:32.380 one day because i don't know the great canadian talk show is going to be coming back because i'm

00:58:35.520 so busy with other things or you can contact me through the j.ca and you can subscribe not only

00:58:40.520 that newsletter but we'll get you subscribed to city circus as well it's just a different way of

00:58:44.780 covering winnipeg different kinds of stories and when the city councillors are subscribing to your

00:58:49.080 newsletter you know you're you're getting in there you're getting in there on their radar and you

00:58:53.560 know that you're making a difference and so far i've had a very good response to it and i'm going

00:58:57.920 to try to continue the reporting i've done for the community at large for now it's over 15 years in

00:59:04.320 winnipeg as well as providing national coverage uh of israel and jewish affairs uh with the j.ca

00:59:12.000 terrific i'm plenty busy now all of a sudden and and sheila i want to thank you and i want to thank

00:59:18.420 ezra because you've you have always been very generous with your time you've allowed me to

00:59:26.120 become the the uh window for rebel media into winnipeg and manitoba yeah and and i i take that

00:59:33.100 um that responsibility very seriously and and it means a lot to me that your viewers have been so kind

00:59:41.260 and so nice and have been supportive of these appearances and when i've had different stories

00:59:46.940 have been mentioned where they've gone into uh into uh whether it was my blogs previously or the

00:59:53.180 j.ca and they've recirculated them and they've stayed they've they backed our place so to speak

00:59:57.920 and i i know that this is uh on the political right though there are obviously differences i know that

01:00:04.700 we have much more in common than than we don't and those that stand for the safety of the jewish

01:00:11.000 community and for the for the uh inclusion of of jews in all walks of canadian life including the halls

01:00:17.980 of of politics and the halls of power uh i'm i'm very gratified to have had this opportunity and to

01:00:24.780 continue to have the opportunity to um to be able to to have an audience with these people and if any

01:00:30.820 of you have any story ideas any of you want to write whatever you know just jump on the pile and

01:00:36.020 i'll get through it and uh we're going to continue to expand this base and make sure that these voices

01:00:40.940 are heard uh and that these stories are told what a great place to end the interview marty thanks for

01:00:49.560 doing what you do to tell the other side of the story both in winnipeg and for the canadian jewish

01:00:54.200 community thank you so much and anytime i look forward to uh appearing uh appearing again in a month

01:01:00.160 or so and uh catching up on all things winnipeg and all things the j.ca great thank you

01:01:05.040 you know marty's kind of a rebel he tells the other side of the story with his municipal

01:01:16.080 accountability work but he's also telling the other side of the story about the jewish community

01:01:20.580 here in canada that they are not all downtown toronto progressives i encourage you to check out

01:01:26.300 the work that's happening over at the j.ca some of the most interesting journalists in canada

01:01:32.640 are now writing at the j.ca it's kind of surprising but kind of great well everybody that's the show

01:01:39.440 for tonight thank you so much for tuning in i'll see everybody back here in the same time in the

01:01:43.720 same place next week and remember don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to

01:01:48.240 thank you

Rebel News Podcast - May 28, 2020

Why Manitoba is a COVID-19 success story (Guest： Marty Gold)

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