Rebel News Podcast - Why the Liberals' carbon tax is a scam. (No, you're not getting that “rebate”...)

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels, welcome to the podcast.

00:00:03.000 It's April Fool's Day today.

00:00:04.220 What a perfect day for Justin Trudeau and Catherine McKenna

00:00:07.120 to introduce their new carbon tax.

00:00:09.500 And it's sort of like a watermelon seed.

00:00:12.360 It's slippery.

00:00:12.920 You push it from the right, it slips to the left.

00:00:16.060 You push it from the left, it slips to the right.

00:00:18.480 And my point is, is the tax painful enough

00:00:22.480 to make us change our behavior?

00:00:24.240 Cancel a vacation, turn down the temperature

00:00:27.420 in our house so it's cold.

00:00:28.440 It has to be painful for it to make a difference

00:00:31.540 in our consumption habits.

00:00:33.780 But the other argument they say is it's no big deal.

00:00:36.940 You've got to read by it anyways.

00:00:38.300 Eight out of 10 Canadians will actually be richer

00:00:40.160 from this tax.

00:00:40.860 Well, which is it?

00:00:42.360 Is the watermelon squishing to the left or the right?

00:00:45.020 Because you can't squish both ways.

00:00:47.580 What is the truth about the carbon tax?

00:00:49.380 I try and get to the bottom of it in today's show.

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00:01:16.140 All right, here's the show.

00:01:18.540 You're listening to a rebel media podcast.

00:01:21.900 Tonight, Justin Trudeau's new carbon tax takes effect.

00:01:25.580 What is its true purpose?

00:01:27.780 It's April 1st and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:30.300 Why should others go to jail

00:01:34.000 when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:36.220 There's 8,500 customers here

00:01:38.260 and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:40.280 The only thing I have to say to the government

00:01:42.200 about why I'm publishing it

00:01:43.900 is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:52.000 It's April Fool's Day,

00:01:53.640 which is the perfect day for Justin Trudeau

00:01:56.080 and Catherine May Canada roll up their carbon tax nationwide.

00:02:00.000 A few provinces already have a carbon tax.

00:02:03.000 Trudeau's will cover the rest of the country.

00:02:06.140 I checked the weather this morning

00:02:08.300 and the entire country is in a deep freeze.

00:02:13.340 Vancouver and Victoria are just above freezing

00:02:16.260 and there is part of Nova Scotia

00:02:18.240 that's almost warm enough not to wear a jacket,

00:02:21.420 but 99% of Canadians are cold today.

00:02:26.540 I had to scrape the ice off my window.

00:02:29.140 Now you might be saying,

00:02:31.680 Ezra, why are you talking about the weather?

00:02:32.920 One cold day doesn't mean

00:02:34.120 that global warming isn't happening.

00:02:35.620 Don't you know the difference

00:02:36.380 between weather and climate?

00:02:38.720 Well, sure, but I wonder

00:02:40.240 if we could be consistent on that.

00:02:42.000 Here's a very shouty Catherine McKenna

00:02:44.880 a few weeks ago

00:02:45.640 when the SNC-Lavalin fiasco

00:02:48.420 was really starting to pull her party apart

00:02:50.460 and she was clearly stressed out and manic

00:02:52.980 and reaching for her safe place,

00:02:55.520 global warming, fear-mongering.

00:02:57.340 So she was talking about science

00:02:59.600 and how because there were some fires

00:03:02.140 started by arson last year

00:03:04.980 and she spoke to a mum somewhere

00:03:07.500 who was scared about something.

00:03:09.900 That means we're in a scientifically valid

00:03:13.320 climate crisis.

00:03:14.840 Remember this?

00:03:16.560 So let's talk about climate change for a second.

00:03:19.120 Who believes it's real?

00:03:20.460 Who believes in science?

00:03:25.480 We got a report last year that said

00:03:28.360 we have 12 years to take serious climate action.

00:03:33.080 We are all in this together.

00:03:35.120 We need to act.

00:03:36.280 And just remember last year.

00:03:38.300 Who remembers last summer?

00:03:41.020 Who remembers the extreme heat

00:03:43.860 that we felt last summer?

00:03:45.440 Who remembers that people literally died

00:03:48.280 of extreme heat?

00:03:49.460 I've called people,

00:03:51.280 I've called mothers

00:03:52.240 in British Columbia

00:03:54.680 where there were forest fires.

00:03:56.480 Remember those forest fires?

00:03:58.060 And guess what?

00:03:59.040 They were scared for their kids to go outside

00:04:01.720 because the air quality was so bad.

00:04:04.760 That really is how they hope

00:04:08.580 to be re-elected this fall, folks.

00:04:10.620 Shouting at you about the weather.

00:04:14.240 Pay no attention to the cabinet ministers

00:04:15.700 being fired or quitting each week

00:04:17.580 or even the new recorded phone call

00:04:19.400 from the clerk of the Privy Council,

00:04:21.360 Michael Wernick,

00:04:22.280 threatening Jody Wilson-Raybould

00:04:24.260 if she didn't drop the prosecution

00:04:25.640 of one of Trudeau's corrupt friends.

00:04:27.440 No, no, no, no.

00:04:28.160 This new carbon tax on everything,

00:04:30.640 that's going to save them.

00:04:32.400 That'll get them re-elected.

00:04:34.200 Well, when Trudeau and McKenna

00:04:35.520 first announced their carbon tax plans,

00:04:37.820 only the brave little province

00:04:39.300 of Saskatchewan stood up to them.

00:04:40.740 Of course.

00:04:41.220 I mean, Saskatchewan

00:04:41.920 is geographically very large.

00:04:44.520 It has a lot of rural folks

00:04:46.660 who have to drive far,

00:04:48.600 who have to drive to farm.

00:04:50.560 There's no subway they can take.

00:04:52.720 Come to think of it,

00:04:53.520 the subway is of no use

00:04:54.780 to most people in Toronto either.

00:04:57.460 And of course,

00:04:58.240 what Saskatchewan makes

00:04:59.860 is energy intensive,

00:05:01.820 oil and gas production,

00:05:03.300 mining, agriculture.

00:05:04.660 If you work in a make-believe economy

00:05:06.800 like Trudeau and McKenna

00:05:08.540 in their private lives,

00:05:09.940 I mean, they've never really done anything.

00:05:11.420 They just gave TED Talks

00:05:12.740 and gave PowerPoint presentations.

00:05:15.200 I guess you have no clue

00:05:16.440 how things are actually made.

00:05:18.060 Remember when Catherine McKenna told,

00:05:19.940 do you remember this?

00:05:21.240 I think it was on CBC or TV.

00:05:23.400 She was telling that great,

00:05:24.780 Saskatchewan farm girl

00:05:25.900 who's now running

00:05:27.360 as a conservative candidate,

00:05:28.740 that that farmer

00:05:30.620 is just going to have to be

00:05:32.300 a little bit smarter at farming.

00:05:35.000 Remember this?

00:05:36.240 The biggest challenge as a farmer

00:05:37.720 for me is going to be

00:05:39.620 the carbon pricing

00:05:40.460 because agriculture

00:05:41.340 is pretty much the only industry

00:05:43.200 where we don't get to pass on

00:05:44.720 that additional cost

00:05:45.700 to our operation.

00:05:47.820 So carbon pricing

00:05:48.540 is going to be

00:05:49.540 an extremely challenging bill

00:05:51.160 for a lot of farmers

00:05:51.980 to be able to deal with.

00:05:53.080 She can't raise the price

00:05:54.560 of her grain

00:05:55.080 or she'll be forced

00:05:56.200 out of the market.

00:05:57.140 So maybe this explains

00:05:58.760 why you've got

00:05:59.300 all the prairie premiers

00:06:01.180 basically saying,

00:06:02.320 or most of them saying,

00:06:03.480 we don't want a carbon price.

00:06:04.820 How do you win over farmers

00:06:06.760 like her?

00:06:07.820 Look, if anyone understands

00:06:09.520 the impacts of climate change,

00:06:11.060 it's farmers.

00:06:11.900 Our system will give

00:06:13.180 more money back

00:06:14.260 to residents of that province

00:06:15.840 than they will pay

00:06:16.780 and it will create

00:06:17.440 the incentives for innovation.

00:06:19.060 And I've seen amazing innovations

00:06:20.740 in farming, for example.

00:06:22.780 Zero-till agriculture,

00:06:25.000 using less water,

00:06:26.900 using smart technologies,

00:06:28.820 artificial intelligence

00:06:29.940 to figure out

00:06:31.460 how you can use less fertilizer,

00:06:33.340 how you can do

00:06:34.700 a better job tilling,

00:06:36.100 how you can get better results.

00:06:37.740 We can all do this,

00:06:39.280 but if we don't,

00:06:40.860 the impact will be dire

00:06:42.220 on farms.

00:06:43.440 Did you hear that?

00:06:46.120 You just got to farm smarter.

00:06:48.540 Stop being such a stupid farmer.

00:06:50.820 You got to farm smart.

00:06:52.700 And this could be really great

00:06:53.840 for you, this new carbon tax.

00:06:55.580 Yeah, I'm shocked that 14%.

00:06:59.620 Did you see this new poll

00:07:00.820 by Angus Reid?

00:07:01.920 Only 14% of Saskatchewanians

00:07:04.740 say they would vote liberal

00:07:06.160 according to the new

00:07:06.980 Angus Reid poll.

00:07:07.880 That's even lower than Alberta.

00:07:10.480 Look at that provincial breakdown.

00:07:12.200 It's lower than Alberta.

00:07:13.440 And rural Saskatchewan,

00:07:15.080 I don't know if you can see it,

00:07:16.340 I think it's the next chart.

00:07:18.400 Rural Saskatchewan,

00:07:19.400 it's such a big poll,

00:07:21.120 it can be broken down

00:07:22.420 into Regina, Saskatoon,

00:07:25.040 and the rural parts.

00:07:26.540 Rural Saskatchewan,

00:07:28.080 literally 10% of people

00:07:31.380 say they'll vote for Trudeau.

00:07:33.080 One in 10 people.

00:07:35.980 You have 20 people in a room,

00:07:38.500 you're only going to find

00:07:39.420 two of them who support Trudeau.

00:07:41.220 That is shocking.

00:07:43.340 But look, Trudeau hates them.

00:07:44.980 It shows it would be weird

00:07:46.760 to like someone who hates you

00:07:49.940 and who has an irritating

00:07:52.180 cabinet minister shout at you

00:07:53.900 to be just smarter

00:07:55.480 in how you farm.

00:07:56.760 Just shut up and pay your carbon tax.

00:07:58.280 Just be smarter.

00:08:00.240 Well, since that time

00:08:02.620 when Scott Moe and Brad Wall

00:08:04.680 were against the carbon tax,

00:08:06.420 other provinces have joined Saskatchewan.

00:08:08.220 Other provinces have decided

00:08:10.460 that the carbon tax

00:08:11.180 is a terrible idea.

00:08:12.780 Really, it's this generation's

00:08:14.540 version of the GST.

00:08:16.400 The biggest ally Saskatchewan

00:08:18.040 has today is Doug Ford of Ontario.

00:08:20.420 Thank God for him.

00:08:22.120 Remember, just a year or so ago,

00:08:24.200 the weirdo Patrick Brown

00:08:25.600 was the Tory leader.

00:08:27.700 And he was such a big booster

00:08:28.820 of the carbon tax.

00:08:30.260 What a delight to have

00:08:31.560 a big carbon tax fighter

00:08:32.880 like Doug Ford as premier instead.

00:08:35.700 And yesterday, Doug Ford

00:08:37.640 was filling up his car

00:08:39.700 and warning Ontarians

00:08:41.740 that the tax was going up today,

00:08:44.320 Trudeau's carbon tax.

00:08:45.120 So gas would be going up

00:08:46.240 about a nickel a liter,

00:08:48.880 which is about 20 cents a gallon

00:08:50.700 for my American friends.

00:08:53.140 What I love even more

00:08:54.260 is that Ford asked all of his MPPs

00:08:57.460 to really do an identical tweet

00:08:59.660 to film themselves

00:09:02.000 or take a photo of themselves

00:09:02.900 filling up their cars,

00:09:04.160 making the same point.

00:09:05.700 My favorite one, by the way,

00:09:07.980 was Caroline Mulroney,

00:09:10.180 who used to be a huge,

00:09:12.080 there she is,

00:09:12.900 huge carbon tax proponent,

00:09:15.960 seeing her tweet

00:09:17.540 against the carbon tax

00:09:18.820 warmed, you know,

00:09:21.420 by snowy day in April in Toronto.

00:09:24.860 I'm serious.

00:09:25.320 I had to get out my ice scraper

00:09:27.140 this morning to scrape off

00:09:28.660 my windshield.

00:09:29.400 What a pleasure to see

00:09:30.560 Caroline Mulroney

00:09:31.280 following Doug Ford's lead

00:09:33.100 and gretching about

00:09:34.720 the carbon tax.

00:09:35.220 But not everyone was upset

00:09:37.300 about paying more

00:09:38.200 for gasoline.

00:09:40.180 Did you know that there

00:09:41.060 were some people

00:09:41.700 who were positively excited

00:09:43.540 about paying more

00:09:45.960 for gasoline?

00:09:47.700 Or at least they wanted

00:09:49.020 everyone to think

00:09:50.880 they like paying more

00:09:52.240 for the same thing

00:09:53.640 they could get yesterday

00:09:54.540 for cheaper.

00:09:54.960 Look at this.

00:09:55.420 Look at this guy.

00:09:56.440 Now, I should tell you,

00:09:57.260 he's a Green Party activist,

00:09:58.420 of course.

00:09:59.140 But listen to this.

00:09:59.920 Here's what he said yesterday.

00:10:01.420 You can see the date stamp there.

00:10:02.700 This is from yesterday,

00:10:03.560 the day before carbon tax.

00:10:04.680 He said,

00:10:05.200 I'm going to wait

00:10:07.400 until tomorrow

00:10:08.600 to fill up my tank.

00:10:10.660 Every liter I pump

00:10:11.700 without a carbon price

00:10:12.700 is a liter my kids

00:10:14.180 will have to pay for

00:10:15.660 as they suck it

00:10:16.840 out of the atmosphere.

00:10:18.060 I pay my own way

00:10:19.400 whenever I can,

00:10:20.360 and that's why I'm glad

00:10:21.600 to have a carbon tax.

00:10:23.160 I love it.

00:10:24.380 I really like it, guys.

00:10:26.200 Okay, hang on.

00:10:29.560 So he said this yesterday.

00:10:31.100 He was waiting until today

00:10:32.200 so he could pay more money.

00:10:33.940 He's going to pump gas

00:10:35.280 just like he would have yesterday.

00:10:37.080 He's driving around

00:10:38.300 just like he was doing yesterday.

00:10:39.860 It's the exact same fuel

00:10:41.820 he would have used yesterday.

00:10:43.060 And given that he's in Ontario,

00:10:44.420 I'm not sure.

00:10:45.400 There's a chance

00:10:46.120 it's made from U.S.

00:10:47.780 fracked oil from North Dakota.

00:10:49.240 But I think there's a chance

00:10:50.200 it's Western Canadian oil.

00:10:51.400 But it's exactly the same gasoline

00:10:52.900 he would have bought yesterday.

00:10:54.220 Nothing different about it

00:10:55.600 other than he's enjoying

00:10:57.540 paying more for it.

00:11:00.760 Every liter I pump

00:11:02.240 without a carbon price

00:11:03.680 is a liter my kids

00:11:05.120 will have to pay for

00:11:06.480 as they suck it

00:11:07.820 out of the atmosphere.

00:11:08.560 What does that even mean?

00:11:10.260 Suck what?

00:11:11.620 Out of the atmosphere.

00:11:13.040 Carbon dioxide?

00:11:14.280 Your car is still burning it.

00:11:16.540 The same way today

00:11:17.680 as it did yesterday.

00:11:18.960 And by the way,

00:11:19.460 carbon dioxide is not pollution.

00:11:21.520 No matter how many times

00:11:23.020 Justin Trudeau

00:11:23.700 or Catherine McKenna say it is,

00:11:24.720 it is just not.

00:11:26.000 It naturally exists.

00:11:27.780 It's about 400 parts per million

00:11:29.680 in the atmosphere.

00:11:30.840 It's a trace gas.

00:11:32.500 You can't even see it.

00:11:33.720 You can't smell it.

00:11:34.340 You can't feel it.

00:11:35.340 Now humans exhale

00:11:36.940 a hundred times

00:11:38.840 that concentration.

00:11:39.660 Did you know you breathe in air

00:11:41.180 with 400 parts per million CO2?

00:11:43.640 Your body uses the oxygen

00:11:45.760 and you exhale CO2

00:11:48.460 at 40,000 parts per million.

00:11:52.260 A hundred times more,

00:11:53.000 by the way,

00:11:53.380 plants depend on carbon dioxide

00:11:55.960 to live.

00:11:56.880 So it's actually the dictionary

00:11:59.300 opposite of pollution.

00:12:01.640 It's the stuff of life.

00:12:03.940 No CO2.

00:12:04.940 There would be no life on earth.

00:12:06.460 Anything green,

00:12:08.280 that green you see

00:12:09.180 in every leaf,

00:12:10.220 in every tree,

00:12:11.100 in every vegetable

00:12:11.900 that every animal lives on,

00:12:13.340 that green is chlorophyll.

00:12:14.560 Without green,

00:12:15.640 without carbon dioxide,

00:12:17.280 all life on earth would die.

00:12:18.640 And everything depends

00:12:20.140 on green like us.

00:12:22.460 What a kook that weirdo is.

00:12:24.920 And by weirdo,

00:12:25.500 I don't know,

00:12:25.840 I could be talking about

00:12:26.380 Justin Trudeau,

00:12:26.900 Catherine McKenna,

00:12:27.440 that green activist.

00:12:28.200 They're all weird.

00:12:29.460 But how is he paying his own way

00:12:32.260 by filling up today?

00:12:33.460 What does that mean?

00:12:35.980 And more to the point,

00:12:36.660 how does that change

00:12:37.640 the global warming

00:12:38.920 that he is alleged

00:12:40.560 to be happening

00:12:42.380 on this cold,

00:12:43.360 cold spring day?

00:12:44.840 How is paying money,

00:12:45.840 how is it changing the weather?

00:12:48.080 I like this one

00:12:49.040 from a Globe and Mail column.

00:12:50.380 It just made me chuckle.

00:12:51.600 Adam Radwanski says,

00:12:52.840 I don't really understand

00:12:54.080 why this is a news story.

00:12:55.260 It's the entire premise

00:12:56.280 along with money coming back

00:12:57.500 via rebated policy.

00:12:58.840 He's complaining about

00:12:59.680 a story where McKenna admits

00:13:01.860 the carbon tax

00:13:02.560 will raise the price of gas.

00:13:07.400 So Catherine McKenna

00:13:08.500 and Justin Trudeau,

00:13:11.000 they're saying

00:13:13.000 this carbon tax

00:13:13.660 won't hurt you a bit

00:13:15.440 because you're going

00:13:17.300 to get money back

00:13:18.220 in the form of a rebate.

00:13:19.660 So that's the green shift

00:13:21.660 he's talking about.

00:13:22.420 So 20 cents a gallon,

00:13:24.380 you're going to get it

00:13:25.140 back somehow.

00:13:26.080 And McKenna has done

00:13:27.260 a bunch of tweets

00:13:28.320 showing just how rich

00:13:30.600 you're going to get

00:13:31.460 from paying this tax

00:13:32.820 from all that rebate money.

00:13:33.980 So province by province,

00:13:35.240 you'll get 256 back

00:13:36.360 for your family.

00:13:36.940 And this province

00:13:37.480 or 339 back in Manitoba.

00:13:40.860 Except that's just,

00:13:41.940 that's fake news

00:13:42.840 because you don't submit

00:13:46.020 your carbon tax expenses

00:13:47.640 for a rebate.

00:13:48.300 It's not like receipts

00:13:49.680 that you might keep

00:13:50.760 and then submit a tax time

00:13:52.020 to reduce your income

00:13:53.000 by showing you gave money

00:13:54.400 to this school

00:13:55.120 or that charity.

00:13:56.000 It's not like that.

00:13:56.760 You don't keep

00:13:57.300 all your gasoline receipts

00:13:58.620 and give them,

00:13:59.240 so you don't get back

00:14:00.740 the extra you're paying

00:14:01.860 in the pump.

00:14:03.380 And of course,

00:14:04.200 that is just one thing

00:14:06.000 that is being taxed today.

00:14:07.060 Of course,

00:14:07.280 you don't just travel yourself.

00:14:09.220 You buy many things.

00:14:11.000 Almost everything

00:14:11.760 that you buy

00:14:12.640 was brought to you

00:14:13.820 by someone else

00:14:14.500 who travels.

00:14:15.460 The food at your grocery store,

00:14:17.060 food at a restaurant,

00:14:18.500 anything and everything

00:14:19.700 you buy anywhere,

00:14:20.480 furniture, toys, clothes.

00:14:21.740 If it was moved in Canada,

00:14:25.000 it's got a carbon tax

00:14:26.080 embedded in it now.

00:14:27.160 There are no solar-powered

00:14:28.440 trains or planes

00:14:29.900 or trucks, sorry.

00:14:32.320 It's all being carbon taxed now.

00:14:34.400 Of course,

00:14:34.860 you're not getting

00:14:35.480 the money back.

00:14:36.240 If that were the case,

00:14:37.740 there would be no point to it

00:14:39.400 because the whole point

00:14:40.800 to this idea

00:14:41.480 is to punish you

00:14:43.320 into changing your behavior.

00:14:45.280 You heard McKenna's advice

00:14:47.400 to that farmer.

00:14:48.100 Just farm smarter, duh.

00:14:50.900 I don't mean punishing bad behavior

00:14:53.960 like so-called sin taxes

00:14:55.960 that punish smoking and drinking,

00:14:58.100 but even that's fake.

00:15:00.480 God forbid people

00:15:01.320 would stop smoking and drinking,

00:15:02.740 the government would lose

00:15:03.680 billions of dollars

00:15:04.520 a year in taxes.

00:15:05.140 They're counting on the fact

00:15:07.060 that demand for smoking

00:15:08.060 and drinking

00:15:08.520 is what economists

00:15:09.700 call inelastic.

00:15:11.560 People will keep doing it

00:15:12.780 even if the price goes up.

00:15:14.000 It's not like,

00:15:14.740 I don't know,

00:15:15.700 if there was a special tax

00:15:16.860 on just blue cars.

00:15:19.300 People would immediately

00:15:20.140 switch to cars

00:15:21.400 of another color.

00:15:22.000 No one really cares

00:15:23.200 that much about blue cars.

00:15:24.440 They would just switch.

00:15:25.880 Sin taxes count on the fact

00:15:27.440 that people are addicted

00:15:28.680 or at least have a habit

00:15:29.760 or at least really enjoy

00:15:31.380 smoking and drinking

00:15:32.740 as a luxury.

00:15:33.500 So they'll pay

00:15:34.760 no matter what the price is.

00:15:37.420 But if you're a school bus

00:15:38.460 company though

00:15:39.060 and your fuel goes up,

00:15:40.720 is that a luxury

00:15:41.440 you can do without?

00:15:42.420 Can you just,

00:15:43.420 you know,

00:15:43.660 can young kids just switch

00:15:45.020 to, I don't know,

00:15:45.860 snowing out there?

00:15:46.840 You're in rural Saskatchewan,

00:15:47.880 I don't know,

00:15:48.480 ride a bike 20 miles

00:15:49.920 in the snow to school?

00:15:52.000 That's what this kooky

00:15:53.820 left-wing lobbyist

00:15:55.400 named Chris Regan says.

00:15:57.180 Listen to this.

00:15:57.840 This was in a video

00:15:59.080 that was tweeted out

00:16:00.520 by Catherine McKenna herself.

00:16:02.240 A carbon price says,

00:16:03.380 you know what?

00:16:03.740 We're going to put

00:16:04.140 a carbon price in place.

00:16:06.100 Those carbon intensive things

00:16:07.480 are going to get more expensive.

00:16:08.820 You figure out how to do it.

00:16:10.580 You might turn down

00:16:11.480 the heat in your house.

00:16:12.340 Somebody else will buy

00:16:13.160 a more fuel efficient vehicle.

00:16:14.620 Somebody else

00:16:15.120 takes different vacations.

00:16:16.840 On the production side,

00:16:18.240 people are going to

00:16:18.880 make different decisions

00:16:19.940 about how they change

00:16:21.340 the way they produce steel

00:16:22.820 or produce cement

00:16:23.800 or transport stuff

00:16:25.220 across rails.

00:16:26.120 But it's their choice.

00:16:26.780 It's their choice.

00:16:27.860 And that flexibility

00:16:28.560 is the key

00:16:30.340 for why carbon price

00:16:31.640 is the lowest cost way,

00:16:33.720 best for the economy,

00:16:35.020 to reduce emissions.

00:16:37.240 What a pompous ass.

00:16:38.840 Let them eat cake.

00:16:40.320 The people who have no bread,

00:16:41.200 let them eat cake.

00:16:42.320 Some people won't

00:16:43.060 take vacations.

00:16:44.140 It's true.

00:16:45.140 Some people have to live

00:16:46.400 in a cold house.

00:16:47.900 It's true.

00:16:48.900 Sorry, Grandma,

00:16:49.680 I know you're cold,

00:16:50.500 but just put on

00:16:51.120 another sweater.

00:16:52.980 I mean, hey,

00:16:53.380 it's your choice.

00:16:55.020 This is a great way

00:16:56.060 to do it, folks.

00:16:56.880 This is really better

00:16:57.760 for you to have to choose

00:16:58.720 between no vacation

00:17:00.220 or heating your house.

00:17:01.200 It's your choice, people.

00:17:03.560 By the way,

00:17:04.140 I'm embarrassed

00:17:04.760 as a born and raised

00:17:05.940 Albertan

00:17:06.420 that Preston Manning

00:17:07.740 actually joined

00:17:09.500 that carbon tax

00:17:10.620 lobby group

00:17:11.220 for years

00:17:12.060 called Canada's

00:17:13.520 Ecofiscal Commission.

00:17:14.820 What a crock.

00:17:15.820 Very disappointing

00:17:16.500 that Preston

00:17:17.160 lent his name

00:17:18.120 and that of Westerners

00:17:18.980 to that.

00:17:20.720 Say, do you think

00:17:21.280 that lobbyist there

00:17:22.140 on TV, Chris Regan,

00:17:23.420 and heck,

00:17:23.820 even Preston Manning,

00:17:24.600 do you think

00:17:25.540 that they have ever

00:17:26.360 declined to take

00:17:28.100 a vacation

00:17:28.640 in the name

00:17:29.200 of saving

00:17:30.140 the climate?

00:17:31.880 I think so.

00:17:32.680 A few weeks ago,

00:17:33.280 Justin Trudeau

00:17:34.000 took a private jet

00:17:35.120 down to Florida

00:17:35.800 just for the weekend.

00:17:36.820 Then he came right back

00:17:37.560 and then I think

00:17:38.000 he went right back

00:17:38.600 down again.

00:17:39.300 Now, this sandcastle

00:17:40.400 photo was on another

00:17:41.640 one of his tropical

00:17:42.460 flights and,

00:17:44.080 of course,

00:17:44.480 he took a private jet

00:17:46.040 and then a private

00:17:46.760 helicopter

00:17:47.340 to his secret vacation

00:17:48.880 on Billionaire Island

00:17:50.100 in the Bahamas

00:17:51.120 courtesy of the Aga Khan.

00:17:52.380 So when they say,

00:17:54.980 hey guys,

00:17:55.600 stop taking vacations,

00:17:57.280 turn down your heat,

00:17:58.200 they're not talking

00:17:58.960 about themselves,

00:18:00.460 they're talking

00:18:01.260 about you.

00:18:03.300 These jet setters

00:18:04.140 literally,

00:18:04.820 I don't know,

00:18:05.160 they flew hundreds

00:18:05.880 of hangers on

00:18:06.740 to every global

00:18:08.160 warming conference

00:18:08.820 each year,

00:18:09.360 often at resorts

00:18:10.160 like, I don't know,

00:18:11.280 Cancun, Bali, Rio,

00:18:12.600 these are some places

00:18:13.380 they have Marrakesh.

00:18:14.760 But you,

00:18:15.500 the little people,

00:18:16.100 you can change

00:18:17.260 your behavior.

00:18:18.740 Trudeau himself

00:18:19.380 said that.

00:18:20.100 The guy with two nannies

00:18:21.420 on the government payroll,

00:18:22.740 he said it.

00:18:25.020 I think one of the things

00:18:25.840 we've seen

00:18:26.440 across the country

00:18:27.920 is that the incentives

00:18:29.420 that come

00:18:31.080 from better behavior,

00:18:32.700 from better choices,

00:18:34.240 making choices

00:18:35.000 to be cleaner

00:18:35.640 and greener

00:18:36.460 is exactly

00:18:37.680 what we want.

00:18:39.840 Well,

00:18:40.360 so which is it?

00:18:41.860 Is the price

00:18:42.800 punitive enough?

00:18:44.140 Is it high enough

00:18:45.160 to make you

00:18:46.380 change your behavior

00:18:47.340 and make you make

00:18:47.960 better choices?

00:18:48.920 Or is it no big deal?

00:18:50.900 Do you just get

00:18:51.340 the money right back

00:18:52.340 in taxes?

00:18:53.560 Maybe you'll even

00:18:54.200 get rich off

00:18:55.100 this tax, guys.

00:18:57.620 Hey,

00:18:58.080 here's a tweet

00:18:58.640 by a senior advisor

00:18:59.680 to Bill Morneau,

00:19:00.360 the finance minister.

00:19:01.660 Sharon Kaur

00:19:02.340 is her name.

00:19:03.300 And she's tweeting

00:19:04.360 back to some conservative

00:19:05.480 who's talking

00:19:06.100 about the price rise.

00:19:07.240 She says,

00:19:08.780 maybe don't drive

00:19:09.640 a gas guzzler.

00:19:10.740 This is the millionaire

00:19:11.400 who had the good sense

00:19:12.240 to inherit Bill Morneau.

00:19:13.660 He inherited

00:19:14.120 a rich company

00:19:15.280 from his dad.

00:19:16.580 Oh,

00:19:16.700 and he went on

00:19:17.100 to marry a billionaire.

00:19:18.600 So his office

00:19:19.960 is chirping

00:19:21.260 at someone

00:19:21.880 for driving

00:19:22.560 a gas guzzler.

00:19:24.360 Just saying.

00:19:25.540 Maybe don't drive

00:19:26.180 a gas guzzler.

00:19:27.000 Just saying.

00:19:29.220 Do you think

00:19:29.920 that Bill Morneau

00:19:30.500 has ever

00:19:31.420 in his life,

00:19:33.400 even when he was

00:19:34.220 an infant,

00:19:36.400 ridden

00:19:36.840 in an economy car?

00:19:39.280 Here's a photo

00:19:40.180 that one of our

00:19:40.940 rebel journalists

00:19:41.520 took right outside

00:19:42.960 the Toronto offices

00:19:44.140 of Morneau-Chapelle

00:19:45.900 a few months ago.

00:19:47.380 That's the huge company

00:19:48.420 Morneau inherited

00:19:49.340 from his father.

00:19:50.640 That car there

00:19:51.300 is a Mercedes S-Class.

00:19:54.160 Parked out front.

00:19:55.160 Vanity license plate

00:19:56.360 WFM.

00:19:58.260 William Francis Morneau.

00:20:00.260 I don't know

00:20:00.560 if that's Bill's car

00:20:01.880 or his dad's car.

00:20:02.700 They have the same initials.

00:20:06.180 If you scroll down here

00:20:07.280 on the website

00:20:07.860 for the S-Class,

00:20:09.700 right to the bottom here,

00:20:10.680 depending on the options

00:20:11.640 and the model,

00:20:12.940 that car sells.

00:20:13.940 Do you see it there

00:20:14.560 right in the middle

00:20:15.240 on the bottom?

00:20:16.960 MSRP,

00:20:17.600 Manufacturer's

00:20:18.360 Suggested Viewtail

00:20:19.520 Price,

00:20:20.300 $258,000

00:20:23.760 plus tax,

00:20:26.200 plus options.

00:20:27.600 That's a 300 grand car.

00:20:30.560 All in.

00:20:32.240 So yeah,

00:20:33.280 I know these kooks

00:20:35.020 keep saying

00:20:36.020 the world is going to end

00:20:36.980 from global warming.

00:20:37.760 What's the latest?

00:20:38.440 In 12 years, everybody.

00:20:39.620 12 years.

00:20:40.300 But they sure don't live

00:20:43.360 like they believe it,

00:20:44.700 do they?

00:20:45.740 But back to the whole

00:20:46.420 rebate thing.

00:20:47.540 If it all evens out

00:20:49.260 in the wash,

00:20:50.440 if you pay tax

00:20:51.960 and you get it all back,

00:20:52.820 why would we be doing

00:20:53.880 all this anyways?

00:20:54.660 What's the point?

00:20:56.660 But if it's punitive

00:20:57.680 and hurts enough,

00:20:59.120 especially to poor families,

00:21:01.140 to make them change

00:21:02.020 their lives,

00:21:02.580 well,

00:21:03.280 I guess same question.

00:21:04.360 Why are we doing all this?

00:21:06.100 Here's how Catherine McKenna

00:21:08.500 puts it

00:21:08.960 in reply

00:21:10.120 to her Ontario PC counterpart.

00:21:12.620 She says,

00:21:13.920 why don't you use

00:21:14.680 every tool

00:21:15.460 at your disposal

00:21:16.140 to fight climate change

00:21:17.740 instead, minister?

00:21:18.780 Like a price on polluting,

00:21:20.140 perhaps.

00:21:20.720 Prime Minister Brian Mulroney,

00:21:22.140 a progressive conservative,

00:21:23.760 used that very tool

00:21:24.820 three decades ago

00:21:25.800 and it worked.

00:21:28.580 Well, it's true.

00:21:29.360 Brian Mulroney did,

00:21:30.300 in fact,

00:21:30.840 price pollution

00:21:31.620 when it came to

00:21:32.540 real pollution,

00:21:33.440 something called

00:21:33.860 acid rain,

00:21:34.880 which was the result

00:21:36.400 of sulfur

00:21:37.640 pouring out of

00:21:38.920 smokestacks

00:21:39.900 largely in the U.S. Midwest

00:21:41.580 and that actual

00:21:43.440 sulfurous smoke

00:21:44.620 would drift up to Canada

00:21:46.380 from the United States

00:21:47.340 and cause acidic rain.

00:21:50.940 Sulfurous clouds

00:21:51.780 are not natural.

00:21:53.720 That actually is pollution.

00:21:54.880 Acid rain is not natural

00:21:56.860 and it was a problem

00:21:58.160 that came from

00:21:58.720 very specific factories.

00:22:00.860 You could track

00:22:02.400 the actual factory

00:22:03.280 and it was in fact

00:22:05.160 solved.

00:22:05.640 There is no more

00:22:06.260 acid rain today

00:22:06.980 that actually is

00:22:08.180 a great example

00:22:09.200 except that carbon dioxide

00:22:11.560 CO2 isn't

00:22:12.760 pollution at all.

00:22:14.660 It's natural.

00:22:15.480 It's not hurting anyone.

00:22:16.300 It's the stuff of life

00:22:17.020 and you can't even track it.

00:22:18.880 That would be too absurd.

00:22:20.400 Literally everything

00:22:21.160 with lungs

00:22:21.880 from your puppy

00:22:23.480 to a bird

00:22:25.080 exhales CO2

00:22:27.120 and everything

00:22:28.060 with chlorophyll

00:22:29.120 inhales

00:22:29.880 or just absorbs it

00:22:30.840 from the air.

00:22:31.680 In that regard,

00:22:32.660 Canada is already

00:22:33.140 a net carbon sink.

00:22:34.680 We're a net carbon absorber

00:22:36.460 if you care about

00:22:38.100 those sort of

00:22:39.180 make-believe calculations.

00:22:42.320 But look at McKenna's tweet again.

00:22:44.760 Why don't you use

00:22:45.580 every tool at your disposal

00:22:46.540 to fight climate change

00:22:47.600 instead, Minister?

00:22:48.500 Like a price on pollution,

00:22:49.500 perhaps.

00:22:50.020 Prime Minister Brian Mulroney,

00:22:51.500 a progressive conservative,

00:22:52.900 used that very tool

00:22:53.740 three decades ago

00:22:54.740 and it worked.

00:22:57.060 Fight climate change.

00:22:58.460 The emphasis is on the action,

00:23:00.920 the motion,

00:23:01.760 on keeping busy,

00:23:02.740 on busy work.

00:23:03.540 Fight climate change.

00:23:06.140 It doesn't say beat climate change,

00:23:07.640 does it?

00:23:07.880 It's a trick.

00:23:09.120 It's even trickier

00:23:09.960 than the dual nature

00:23:10.740 of the carbon tax.

00:23:11.480 Either it is really effective

00:23:12.860 and will get people

00:23:13.540 to change their lives

00:23:14.420 by punishing normal behaviors

00:23:15.980 like having a warm house

00:23:17.440 or it's no pain at all.

00:23:18.840 Guys, you'll get your money back.

00:23:19.940 No big deal.

00:23:20.500 Please vote for us.

00:23:21.720 I mean, that's a trick.

00:23:22.580 That's a con.

00:23:24.220 But you'll notice

00:23:25.160 the wording she used,

00:23:26.780 fight climate change.

00:23:28.620 Trudeau's very precise

00:23:30.020 with the language too.

00:23:30.940 That would be like saying

00:23:31.920 fight against the rising

00:23:34.800 and falling tides of the sea.

00:23:36.920 Fight against the wind.

00:23:40.640 Sure, I guess you could call it fighting,

00:23:42.000 but you will never win.

00:23:43.560 You can never win.

00:23:44.920 You'll notice McKenna

00:23:46.000 never says her plan

00:23:47.200 will actually reduce global warming,

00:23:50.620 assuming global warming

00:23:51.640 is still happening.

00:23:54.240 Because isn't that the reason

00:23:55.880 we fight anything

00:23:56.700 to beat that thing,

00:23:58.360 to win?

00:23:59.160 At least if fighting

00:24:00.020 is costly and complex

00:24:01.260 and forces you

00:24:02.100 to change your life,

00:24:02.860 whether it's canceling

00:24:03.520 your vacation

00:24:04.020 or living in a cold house

00:24:05.220 or not driving your tractor

00:24:06.220 on a farmer.

00:24:07.060 Come on, Megs,

00:24:08.200 be a better farmer.

00:24:09.900 I mean, when Canada fought

00:24:11.480 in the Second World War,

00:24:12.580 just for an example,

00:24:13.460 it was a mighty effort.

00:24:15.740 Every single Canadian

00:24:16.680 scrimped and saved.

00:24:17.680 There was rationing,

00:24:18.920 even rationing of food.

00:24:20.120 And of course,

00:24:20.740 more than one million

00:24:22.160 Canadians actually served.

00:24:24.340 And more than 40,000

00:24:26.260 Canadians died.

00:24:28.640 That wasn't just fighting

00:24:29.760 for fighting's sake.

00:24:30.760 It was fighting to stop

00:24:31.840 Hitler and Mussolini

00:24:33.300 and Hirohito

00:24:33.940 to actually win.

00:24:35.440 It wasn't just a lifestyle.

00:24:36.740 Hey, let's fight.

00:24:37.920 It wasn't for its own sake.

00:24:40.440 Everyone was overjoyed

00:24:41.760 when the war was over.

00:24:43.140 The sacrifice

00:24:43.820 was worth it

00:24:45.180 for the victory,

00:24:45.880 but it was the victory

00:24:46.640 we were fighting for.

00:24:47.620 But there can be

00:24:48.720 no victory

00:24:49.440 in the great climate wars.

00:24:51.220 Not even the IPCC,

00:24:53.300 the Intergovernmental Panel

00:24:54.440 on Climate Change,

00:24:55.220 that's the UN body

00:24:56.680 overseeing this whole fiasco.

00:24:58.480 Not even the IPCC says

00:25:00.420 that mankind

00:25:01.400 can stop global warming.

00:25:03.340 Even if every single country

00:25:05.020 in the world

00:25:05.420 were to listen

00:25:06.000 to Catherine McKenna,

00:25:07.460 it would not stop

00:25:08.720 global warming.

00:25:09.700 The change

00:25:10.240 would be imperceptible.

00:25:12.140 And of course,

00:25:12.720 no other country

00:25:13.460 is listening

00:25:14.040 to McKenna,

00:25:14.900 most certainly not China

00:25:16.300 or India

00:25:17.040 or Brazil

00:25:17.680 or any OPEC country,

00:25:19.080 the big emitters

00:25:19.640 in the world.

00:25:20.660 McKenna is not

00:25:21.480 saving the world.

00:25:23.640 Same thing

00:25:24.220 when she shuts down

00:25:25.280 Canadian pipelines,

00:25:26.580 like with her bizarre plans

00:25:28.020 for a gender analysis

00:25:29.780 of all new pipelines.

00:25:30.780 Remember this?

00:25:31.220 I know I've shown this before.

00:25:32.360 You've got to watch this

00:25:33.120 every month.

00:25:33.600 Remember this?

00:25:34.860 Project's decisions

00:25:35.700 will be based on science,

00:25:37.320 evidence,

00:25:37.940 and indigenous

00:25:38.480 traditional knowledge.

00:25:40.280 We're also taking

00:25:41.260 a bigger picture look

00:25:42.160 at the potential impacts

00:25:43.300 of a proposed project.

00:25:44.900 Instead of just looking

00:25:46.300 at the environmental impacts,

00:25:47.880 we'll look at how a project

00:25:49.000 could affect our communities

00:25:50.160 and health,

00:25:51.380 jobs and the economy

00:25:52.600 over the long term,

00:25:53.840 and we'll also do

00:25:54.840 a gender-based analysis.

00:25:57.680 Yeah, so without

00:25:59.740 even becoming law,

00:26:01.880 that crazy bill

00:26:03.240 has actually successfully

00:26:05.080 shut down oil

00:26:06.660 and gas pipelines

00:26:07.440 in Canada.

00:26:07.940 No one is proposing

00:26:08.720 more pipelines.

00:26:10.120 No one is proposing

00:26:10.700 more major oil sense projects.

00:26:12.740 Oil production

00:26:13.160 has actually fallen

00:26:14.260 in Canada

00:26:15.000 for the first time

00:26:16.060 in a decade.

00:26:16.820 I didn't even know

00:26:17.380 that was possible,

00:26:18.020 but yeah,

00:26:18.280 they did it.

00:26:18.640 They killed it.

00:26:20.140 So I guess that's

00:26:21.060 mission accomplished

00:26:21.740 for Catherine McKenna,

00:26:22.820 except that whatever

00:26:23.640 Canada is not producing,

00:26:26.260 well, other countries

00:26:26.980 have immediately made up

00:26:27.980 for the shortfall,

00:26:29.080 OPEC,

00:26:29.600 and especially

00:26:30.320 the United States,

00:26:31.140 which is now

00:26:31.560 the world's biggest

00:26:33.080 oil and gas producer.

00:26:34.020 So yeah,

00:26:34.420 I guess we've shut down

00:26:35.800 that dirty oil

00:26:36.880 and gas business

00:26:37.600 here in Canada,

00:26:38.180 but it's just moved

00:26:39.600 to North Dakota

00:26:40.420 and Texas

00:26:41.040 and Colorado.

00:26:42.320 Actually,

00:26:42.760 our number one source

00:26:43.660 of oil imports

00:26:44.460 these days

00:26:44.800 is from America.

00:26:46.540 So let's sum up here.

00:26:48.700 You're now paying more

00:26:49.680 for anything

00:26:50.460 that moves

00:26:51.500 or anything

00:26:52.180 that needs to be

00:26:53.260 kept warm

00:26:53.740 in a large country

00:26:55.160 and a cold country.

00:26:56.520 So that's everything.

00:26:58.080 You're paying more

00:26:58.660 for everything.

00:26:59.340 You pay more

00:27:00.420 the more you move.

00:27:02.000 So this is going

00:27:02.780 to hit everything,

00:27:03.640 including cities,

00:27:05.360 schools,

00:27:06.280 grocery stores,

00:27:07.000 everything.

00:27:08.340 I mean,

00:27:08.500 just today,

00:27:08.900 the city of Regina

00:27:09.600 says it will cost

00:27:11.140 an additional

00:27:11.620 one million bucks

00:27:12.600 just for their vehicle.

00:27:13.880 So yeah,

00:27:14.240 more taxes

00:27:15.200 to pay the carbon taxes.

00:27:16.740 The whole point

00:27:17.340 is to make you

00:27:18.300 poor enough

00:27:19.040 so you don't do

00:27:20.160 the things you like to do,

00:27:21.120 like go on a vacation

00:27:22.260 or have a warm house

00:27:24.320 in the winter.

00:27:26.300 They say that.

00:27:28.000 That's what they tell you

00:27:29.300 to do to change

00:27:29.940 your behavior.

00:27:31.580 Well,

00:27:32.080 they jet on their

00:27:33.180 holidays to Florida.

00:27:34.600 But at the end of the day,

00:27:35.980 it's all stolen

00:27:36.920 valor in a way.

00:27:38.040 They're not really

00:27:38.520 fighting climate change

00:27:39.900 as if they were

00:27:40.980 soldiers in a battle.

00:27:42.480 They're just hucksters.

00:27:43.360 Like I say,

00:27:43.760 it's an unwinnable war

00:27:45.020 against Mother Nature.

00:27:46.220 You could shut down

00:27:46.980 every factory

00:27:48.080 in the world.

00:27:48.940 You could ban

00:27:49.400 every car in the world

00:27:50.820 and the climate

00:27:51.400 would stay the same.

00:27:52.560 It would actually

00:27:53.160 keep getting warming

00:27:54.440 very, very slowly

00:27:55.980 as the climate

00:27:57.340 has been doing

00:27:58.060 since we've emerged

00:27:59.640 from the last

00:28:00.280 great ice age

00:28:01.060 10,000 years ago.

00:28:02.900 Every year,

00:28:03.940 a teeny bit warmer.

00:28:05.200 Thank goodness.

00:28:06.920 This is nuts,

00:28:07.760 this carbon tax.

00:28:08.440 It's a scam.

00:28:09.480 It's the weirdest

00:28:10.260 re-election promise

00:28:11.180 I've ever seen.

00:28:13.200 But it's also

00:28:13.780 the worst journalism

00:28:14.520 I've ever seen too.

00:28:16.420 Catherine McKenna

00:28:17.000 doesn't talk

00:28:17.840 to us much

00:28:19.020 here at The Rebel.

00:28:19.880 But are you surprised

00:28:21.420 that not a single

00:28:22.280 CBC reporter

00:28:23.180 in almost four years

00:28:24.640 has ever asked her,

00:28:25.560 hey minister,

00:28:26.200 if we follow your plan,

00:28:28.500 if we all do this,

00:28:29.980 how much will

00:28:32.040 the Earth's temperature

00:28:33.140 change?

00:28:37.600 Because they know

00:28:38.340 the answer is

00:28:38.960 not at all.

00:28:40.840 Zero.

00:28:42.420 Because they know

00:28:42.980 this isn't about

00:28:43.680 changing the climate

00:28:44.920 or fixing a problem.

00:28:47.140 It's about controlling you,

00:28:49.600 changing you,

00:28:50.460 fixing you,

00:28:51.320 telling you where to drive,

00:28:52.320 where to vacation,

00:28:53.020 and everything else.

00:28:53.620 how to live.

00:28:56.040 While they continue

00:28:57.020 to fly around

00:28:57.640 on private jets,

00:28:58.840 coming up with more ways

00:28:59.940 to tax us.

00:29:02.920 Stay with us for more.

00:29:17.860 Welcome back.

00:29:18.680 Well, it is certainly

00:29:19.340 not too early

00:29:20.440 to start talking about

00:29:21.580 who the Democrats

00:29:22.500 will field

00:29:23.840 in the 2020

00:29:25.040 presidential campaign.

00:29:26.980 And although there's

00:29:27.500 a lot of tire kickers

00:29:28.920 out there,

00:29:29.920 polls generally show

00:29:31.480 two men

00:29:32.580 with a lead

00:29:33.540 head and shoulders

00:29:34.200 above the rest.

00:29:35.260 I'm referring to

00:29:36.420 Bernie Sanders,

00:29:37.520 who many say

00:29:38.500 actually beat

00:29:39.500 Hillary Clinton

00:29:40.220 when you take out

00:29:41.380 the superdelegates

00:29:42.660 and other vote rigging

00:29:43.660 by Hillary Clinton

00:29:44.800 in 2016.

00:29:46.600 Bernie Sanders

00:29:47.380 is interested

00:29:48.140 in running again.

00:29:48.980 He's thrown his hat

00:29:49.540 in the ring.

00:29:50.260 And another one

00:29:51.060 who's kicking tires

00:29:52.320 most seriously

00:29:53.280 is Joe Biden,

00:29:55.180 who was vice president

00:29:56.240 for eight years

00:29:57.340 under Barack Obama

00:29:58.260 and had a lengthy

00:30:00.580 career in the Senate

00:30:01.600 before that.

00:30:03.740 But Joe Biden

00:30:04.800 has a bit of a bump

00:30:05.560 in the road.

00:30:06.660 He's a bit handsy.

00:30:08.520 And joining us now

00:30:09.120 to talk about that

00:30:09.860 is our friend

00:30:10.340 Joel Pollack,

00:30:11.020 senior editor at large

00:30:12.260 at brightpark.com.

00:30:13.400 Joe, great to see you again.

00:30:15.360 Good to be with you.

00:30:16.580 You know,

00:30:17.200 Joe Biden

00:30:17.700 is sort of a funny character

00:30:18.980 in a way

00:30:20.080 he's Trump-like

00:30:21.440 in that he's

00:30:22.900 he's a real

00:30:25.260 unique individual.

00:30:26.580 He's got some

00:30:27.420 goofy style.

00:30:28.440 He doesn't care

00:30:29.020 what you think of him.

00:30:30.560 He just does

00:30:32.380 goofy things.

00:30:33.080 He puts on

00:30:33.580 goofy sunglasses

00:30:34.540 and mugs for the camera

00:30:36.120 in a way that I think

00:30:37.080 maybe only someone

00:30:37.940 in his 70s

00:30:39.440 with a bit of

00:30:39.960 swagger can.

00:30:41.400 I don't know.

00:30:41.940 I think it would be

00:30:42.840 a heck of a match

00:30:44.080 him versus Trump.

00:30:45.840 Two similar guys

00:30:46.940 in some respects

00:30:48.080 but just like Trump

00:30:50.460 Joe Biden

00:30:52.480 has some

00:30:53.100 Me Too accusations

00:30:54.380 but unlike Trump

00:30:55.620 there's a hell of a lot

00:30:56.980 of photographic evidence.

00:30:58.460 What do you make

00:30:59.140 of the allegations

00:31:00.580 and not even allegations

00:31:01.520 it's videotape

00:31:02.500 that Joe Biden

00:31:03.720 just gropes

00:31:04.640 dozens

00:31:06.100 maybe hundreds

00:31:07.000 of people

00:31:07.520 and does so

00:31:08.220 in plain sight?

00:31:11.900 Well

00:31:12.460 it's important

00:31:13.640 to note the difference

00:31:15.320 which is that

00:31:16.020 Joe Biden

00:31:16.500 did this in public

00:31:17.400 so we're not being

00:31:18.120 told something

00:31:18.960 about Biden

00:31:20.140 that's hidden

00:31:20.960 and in fact

00:31:22.120 it's been a running joke

00:31:23.100 for conservatives

00:31:23.880 for a long time

00:31:25.020 that Biden

00:31:25.600 has a habit

00:31:26.340 of being very

00:31:27.020 touchy-feely

00:31:27.800 with women

00:31:28.880 including younger women

00:31:29.920 at official events

00:31:32.140 not behind closed doors.

00:31:33.840 No one's alleging

00:31:34.640 any kind of

00:31:35.340 sexual harassment

00:31:36.240 or infidelity

00:31:37.300 or anything like that

00:31:38.400 but he's just

00:31:39.760 inappropriate.

00:31:41.400 Now

00:31:41.860 if we are

00:31:43.760 applying

00:31:44.300 the standard

00:31:45.020 to Biden

00:31:45.680 that was applied

00:31:46.560 to other politicians

00:31:48.080 left and right

00:31:48.920 like Al Franken

00:31:50.080 for example

00:31:50.740 then Biden

00:31:52.520 shouldn't run

00:31:53.060 for president

00:31:53.560 because

00:31:54.040 if other people

00:31:55.480 have to leave office

00:31:56.520 for inappropriate

00:31:57.960 behavior like this

00:31:59.000 including in public

00:32:00.020 as was the case

00:32:01.000 with Al Franken

00:32:01.560 then Biden

00:32:03.060 should also drop out.

00:32:04.640 But

00:32:05.140 I think what you're

00:32:06.060 seeing here

00:32:06.660 is more a case

00:32:08.320 of blue on blue

00:32:09.980 as we call it

00:32:10.620 this is democratic

00:32:11.620 infighting.

00:32:13.400 These are allegations

00:32:14.680 that are coming up now

00:32:15.880 largely from within

00:32:17.640 the Bernie Sanders camp

00:32:19.000 and from other rivals

00:32:20.240 as well

00:32:20.740 most likely

00:32:21.920 in an effort

00:32:23.400 to keep Joe Biden

00:32:24.260 out of the presidential race.

00:32:25.560 You mentioned the polls

00:32:26.240 that show Biden

00:32:26.900 and Sanders

00:32:27.400 neck and neck.

00:32:28.500 Sanders has declared

00:32:29.720 his campaign

00:32:30.760 his candidacy

00:32:31.500 Biden has not

00:32:32.620 and so I think

00:32:33.740 this is

00:32:34.320 a bit of a challenge

00:32:36.060 to Biden

00:32:36.820 a bit of a warning shot

00:32:37.900 don't get into the race.

00:32:39.060 The reason Biden

00:32:40.300 is a threat

00:32:40.780 to the rest

00:32:41.220 of the democratic field

00:32:42.200 is he is probably

00:32:43.300 the only candidate

00:32:44.520 right now

00:32:45.620 who can unify

00:32:46.780 all of the disparate

00:32:47.900 factions of the

00:32:48.500 democratic party.

00:32:49.700 That's not because

00:32:50.300 of anything he believes

00:32:51.480 or because of his style

00:32:52.900 or his experience

00:32:53.980 it's only because

00:32:55.140 he served under

00:32:55.800 Barack Obama

00:32:56.480 and to the extent

00:32:57.300 you could bring Obama back

00:32:58.400 Biden is the embodiment

00:32:59.520 of Obama.

00:33:00.640 Not every democrat

00:33:01.460 likes Obama

00:33:02.100 but they put up

00:33:02.740 with him for four years

00:33:03.600 eight years

00:33:04.100 so they'll put up

00:33:05.920 with Biden

00:33:06.400 he is also

00:33:07.820 equally capable

00:33:08.700 of being

00:33:10.740 in terms

00:33:11.440 or at times

00:33:12.520 progressive

00:33:13.020 and moderate

00:33:14.380 so Biden

00:33:15.760 can pull that

00:33:16.480 trick off

00:33:16.960 that's why

00:33:17.660 he's a threat

00:33:18.140 to the current

00:33:18.720 front runner

00:33:19.240 Bernie Sanders

00:33:19.960 who is defiantly

00:33:21.800 left wing

00:33:22.440 and left behind

00:33:24.000 actually

00:33:24.520 the things

00:33:25.000 Bernie Sanders

00:33:25.560 says about

00:33:26.300 our economy

00:33:27.320 and about

00:33:28.120 our foreign policy

00:33:29.060 are simply not true

00:33:30.340 and for example

00:33:31.960 he says that

00:33:32.560 people are stuck

00:33:33.640 they can't make it

00:33:34.380 into the middle class

00:33:35.160 anymore

00:33:35.540 the middle class

00:33:36.200 isn't as nice

00:33:38.120 a place to be anymore

00:33:39.000 all of that

00:33:39.480 is nonsense

00:33:40.060 I mean the Trump

00:33:41.040 economy has basically

00:33:42.600 turned the jets

00:33:44.140 on for the middle

00:33:44.800 class in America

00:33:45.640 and the middle class

00:33:48.420 in the United States

00:33:49.060 is doing rather well

00:33:50.120 there are some problems

00:33:51.080 like student loan debt

00:33:52.060 and housing costs

00:33:53.000 but generally

00:33:54.060 people are doing

00:33:54.620 very well

00:33:55.100 the America

00:33:56.300 Bernie Sanders

00:33:57.040 wants us to live in

00:33:58.100 ended really

00:33:59.700 in the late 1970s

00:34:01.020 early 1980s

00:34:01.980 but it certainly

00:34:02.680 doesn't exist today

00:34:03.440 but he's got

00:34:04.740 this charisma

00:34:05.440 he's got authenticity

00:34:06.520 and the other candidates

00:34:08.000 have things to offer too

00:34:09.200 that neither Biden

00:34:10.000 nor Sanders has

00:34:10.860 such as

00:34:11.840 being female

00:34:12.960 being a minority

00:34:13.920 whatever it is

00:34:15.660 but anyway

00:34:17.220 this is

00:34:17.720 this is infighting

00:34:18.700 I would be surprised

00:34:19.920 if it actually

00:34:20.940 keeps Biden

00:34:21.740 out of the race

00:34:22.580 some people are thinking

00:34:24.720 this is going

00:34:25.700 to keep him out

00:34:26.380 because

00:34:27.080 of the strength

00:34:28.500 of the Me Too movement

00:34:29.400 and I have

00:34:30.940 my suspicions

00:34:32.280 that this is going

00:34:33.100 to fade

00:34:33.620 and it may

00:34:34.400 actually even be

00:34:35.180 good for Joe Biden

00:34:36.020 because

00:34:36.420 to some extent

00:34:37.660 it will inoculate him

00:34:38.800 against these

00:34:39.480 same claims

00:34:40.240 when they come up

00:34:40.900 down the road

00:34:42.140 either later in the primary

00:34:43.540 or even possibly

00:34:44.500 in a general election

00:34:45.600 there may be other reasons

00:34:47.180 Biden can't win

00:34:48.220 including the fact

00:34:49.100 that the Democrats

00:34:49.680 are simply so invested

00:34:50.840 in identity politics

00:34:51.960 that they insist

00:34:53.300 on a Kamala Harris

00:34:54.680 or somebody like that

00:34:56.220 but

00:34:57.040 I think that

00:34:58.440 Biden will

00:34:59.320 be able to move past this

00:35:00.580 we haven't seen

00:35:01.160 the pushback

00:35:01.820 just yet

00:35:02.540 but I think

00:35:03.420 Biden will probably

00:35:04.480 overcome this

00:35:05.140 now

00:35:05.360 I'm not making

00:35:06.080 a prediction

00:35:06.520 I do think

00:35:07.540 he is sensitive enough

00:35:08.900 to know that

00:35:10.040 there are other factors

00:35:10.900 again

00:35:11.220 he's a white male

00:35:12.820 he's in his 70s already

00:35:14.440 he's older than Trump

00:35:15.420 he's

00:35:16.740 got some other things

00:35:18.060 against him as well

00:35:18.840 in a general election

00:35:19.880 he's vulnerable

00:35:20.500 for a couple of other reasons

00:35:21.700 I'm trying to

00:35:23.200 draw attention

00:35:24.420 to those

00:35:24.760 and some pieces

00:35:25.240 I've got coming up

00:35:25.960 but basically

00:35:26.520 he pursued

00:35:27.460 every Obama policy

00:35:29.120 that voters now

00:35:29.940 find objectionable

00:35:30.900 that Trump

00:35:31.320 has done away with

00:35:31.980 or is doing away with

00:35:32.940 like Obamacare

00:35:34.220 the Iran deal

00:35:35.380 and he's got

00:35:36.440 some corruption problems

00:35:37.540 as Breitbart News

00:35:38.480 has documented

00:35:39.260 his son Hunter Biden

00:35:40.800 flew over on Air Force Two

00:35:42.120 while Joe Biden

00:35:42.800 was vice president

00:35:43.540 and did a deal

00:35:45.100 with the Chinese government

00:35:46.040 where the Chinese government

00:35:47.560 put one billion dollars

00:35:48.940 into a fund

00:35:49.700 that Hunter Biden

00:35:51.200 was involved with

00:35:51.940 this looks very shady

00:35:53.420 and

00:35:54.140 not

00:35:54.800 not good

00:35:55.600 for Biden

00:35:56.320 he was also

00:35:56.840 very soft on China

00:35:57.820 and a bunch of other problems

00:35:59.040 with his record

00:35:59.560 he's the one responsible

00:36:01.100 for the nastiness

00:36:01.960 of our judicial fights

00:36:02.920 he's the one who insisted

00:36:03.800 that ideology

00:36:04.640 had a role to play

00:36:05.800 in the confirmation

00:36:06.420 of Supreme Court justices

00:36:07.560 so you can thank Joe Biden

00:36:08.720 for the nail-biter finishes

00:36:10.620 in all of these

00:36:11.360 congressional

00:36:12.220 reviews

00:36:13.820 or senatorial reviews

00:36:14.940 of our judicial appointees

00:36:16.660 but anyway

00:36:17.000 the Me Too moment

00:36:19.220 is more a case

00:36:20.600 of Democratic infighting

00:36:21.960 than actual

00:36:23.720 public objections

00:36:24.780 people have known

00:36:25.620 about this for a while

00:36:26.620 Republicans have made fun

00:36:27.940 of it for a while

00:36:28.520 there haven't really been

00:36:29.740 too many objections

00:36:31.140 about it

00:36:31.820 some of the women involved

00:36:33.060 didn't even object

00:36:34.060 they said this was

00:36:34.760 a friendly contact

00:36:35.820 with Biden

00:36:36.580 he was reassuring them

00:36:37.640 or whatever it was

00:36:38.420 not every woman

00:36:39.200 feels that way

00:36:39.920 and maybe there was

00:36:41.060 something more to it

00:36:41.840 we may find out

00:36:42.460 more information

00:36:43.020 but I think Biden

00:36:44.380 will probably survive this

00:36:45.880 if he doesn't run

00:36:46.680 it'll be for other reasons

00:36:47.500 yeah I have in my hand

00:36:48.900 a piece that you wrote

00:36:50.400 yesterday

00:36:51.200 the headline is something

00:36:52.680 that Canadians

00:36:53.340 will chuckle at

00:36:54.260 Joel you say

00:36:55.120 Joe Biden

00:36:56.360 on Me Too allegations

00:36:57.480 I may not recall

00:36:59.180 these moments

00:36:59.860 the same way

00:37:00.820 you know our own

00:37:01.840 Justin Trudeau up here

00:37:03.000 apologized for sexually

00:37:05.180 assaulting a young reporter

00:37:06.460 in the year 2000

00:37:07.880 in the town of Creston BC

00:37:09.220 and that was buried

00:37:11.040 for a long time

00:37:11.900 but it came out again

00:37:12.980 last year

00:37:13.420 and he said

00:37:13.880 she may have experienced

00:37:15.820 it differently

00:37:16.860 so it's

00:37:17.900 that's

00:37:18.900 that's the phrase

00:37:20.700 male feminists use

00:37:22.360 but Justin Trudeau

00:37:23.720 is 47

00:37:25.080 I think

00:37:25.980 and

00:37:26.840 he's supposed

00:37:28.780 to be more woke

00:37:29.680 I mean

00:37:30.000 Joe Biden

00:37:30.700 is sort of

00:37:31.060 haha

00:37:31.380 there's Grandpa Joe Biden

00:37:32.720 you know

00:37:33.140 oh boy

00:37:33.980 you know

00:37:34.300 I think he gets

00:37:35.380 a part of it

00:37:36.120 is because he's so folksy

00:37:37.500 that's what I mean

00:37:38.160 by there's some similarities

00:37:39.260 he's folksy

00:37:40.340 but let me ask you this

00:37:41.220 you mentioned

00:37:41.680 he's so inextricably

00:37:43.220 linked to the Obamas

00:37:44.180 of course

00:37:44.660 he was the loyal VP

00:37:46.160 for eight years

00:37:46.940 but

00:37:47.720 from what I can detect

00:37:50.980 the Obamas

00:37:51.660 either Barack Obama

00:37:52.980 or Michelle Obama

00:37:54.660 or their old crew

00:37:56.380 they have not

00:37:57.640 from what I can see

00:37:59.480 been pushing

00:38:00.900 Joe Biden

00:38:02.560 have I missed it

00:38:03.360 are they on

00:38:04.020 side

00:38:04.680 would Barack Obama

00:38:05.460 like it

00:38:06.080 if Joe Biden ran

00:38:07.180 I think he would

00:38:09.020 be okay with it

00:38:10.060 remember the reason

00:38:10.960 Obama chose Biden

00:38:12.340 was not because

00:38:13.760 of any ideological

00:38:14.640 affinity

00:38:15.260 and Biden had been

00:38:16.060 a terrible

00:38:16.520 presidential candidate

00:38:17.480 every time he ran

00:38:18.440 Biden actually

00:38:19.480 mocked Obama's

00:38:20.560 lack of experience

00:38:21.520 when they had

00:38:22.460 their primary debate

00:38:23.280 in 2007

00:38:24.340 so Biden was not

00:38:25.940 particularly

00:38:26.580 close to Obama

00:38:28.160 and had said

00:38:29.020 some racial things

00:38:29.900 about Obama

00:38:30.480 the reason Obama

00:38:31.940 chose Biden

00:38:32.620 was he was

00:38:33.420 an older white male

00:38:34.960 with foreign policy

00:38:35.860 experience

00:38:36.500 such as it was

00:38:37.500 I mean Biden's

00:38:38.100 on the Senate

00:38:38.500 Foreign Relations Committee

00:38:39.280 he was wrong

00:38:39.800 about almost

00:38:40.300 every foreign policy

00:38:41.420 issue

00:38:41.640 going back to

00:38:42.520 whenever

00:38:43.220 but that was

00:38:44.960 the image

00:38:46.600 Obama wanted to

00:38:47.400 represent

00:38:47.580 he was

00:38:48.060 very concerned

00:38:49.480 that Americans

00:38:50.080 would not vote

00:38:50.960 for a black

00:38:51.600 candidate

00:38:52.180 Obama took

00:38:53.120 ideas of racism

00:38:54.980 very seriously

00:38:55.680 too seriously

00:38:56.380 in my view

00:38:56.920 he thought

00:38:57.260 Americans

00:38:57.700 wouldn't like

00:38:58.180 to see Muslims

00:38:58.840 in the background

00:38:59.500 at his events

00:39:00.140 so they had

00:39:00.660 Muslim women

00:39:01.820 moved out

00:39:02.740 of the camera

00:39:03.520 angle

00:39:03.900 he was convinced

00:39:05.200 that Americans

00:39:05.820 had a problem

00:39:06.620 going into the

00:39:07.540 ballot box

00:39:08.120 or the voting booth

00:39:09.060 and voting for a

00:39:10.520 black person

00:39:11.000 so he had Biden

00:39:11.840 added to the ticket

00:39:12.420 Biden was essentially

00:39:13.380 window dressing

00:39:14.080 for a racially

00:39:15.460 obsessive

00:39:16.160 Obama campaign

00:39:17.120 and he didn't

00:39:19.220 bring much

00:39:19.640 to the administration

00:39:20.340 he did have

00:39:21.620 negotiating skills

00:39:22.560 because he'd been

00:39:23.020 in the Senate

00:39:23.400 for so long

00:39:23.940 so he knew

00:39:24.280 all the senators

00:39:24.800 but Obama

00:39:25.600 never really

00:39:26.000 made use of

00:39:26.560 those

00:39:26.840 I mean Obama

00:39:27.640 never worked

00:39:28.360 with Congress

00:39:28.840 on anything

00:39:29.580 so Biden

00:39:30.820 was essentially

00:39:31.480 a kind of

00:39:32.260 prop

00:39:32.940 for Obama

00:39:33.920 but

00:39:35.580 there is

00:39:37.180 possibly

00:39:37.880 some affinity

00:39:38.460 in the sense

00:39:38.960 that Biden

00:39:39.400 would promise

00:39:40.080 to continue

00:39:40.640 some of what

00:39:41.220 Obama did

00:39:41.820 which would

00:39:42.100 unify the party

00:39:42.700 however

00:39:43.020 the evidence

00:39:43.760 we have

00:39:44.320 so far

00:39:45.080 is that

00:39:45.440 the key

00:39:46.160 Obama

00:39:46.820 advisors

00:39:48.220 and staffers

00:39:49.240 who might

00:39:50.480 have been

00:39:50.980 on board

00:39:51.740 for Biden

00:39:52.300 are on board

00:39:53.140 with Beto O'Rourke

00:39:54.160 that is the

00:39:54.840 choice of the

00:39:56.080 Obama alumni

00:39:58.020 they like

00:39:58.820 Beto

00:39:59.440 he's

00:39:59.960 quasi-Hispanic

00:40:02.320 he's got a

00:40:02.880 Hispanic nickname

00:40:03.800 although he's an Irish

00:40:04.500 guy from

00:40:05.480 it happens to be

00:40:06.140 from El Paso

00:40:06.760 but he's

00:40:07.280 got a bit of

00:40:07.960 Obama's style

00:40:08.960 kind of a catch-all

00:40:10.260 fill-in-the-blank

00:40:11.460 leftism

00:40:12.060 and there's

00:40:14.020 a youth

00:40:14.420 there

00:40:14.840 kind of

00:40:15.180 dynamism

00:40:15.680 energy

00:40:16.080 people like

00:40:16.720 that

00:40:16.920 so

00:40:17.140 the Obama

00:40:18.860 alumni

00:40:19.220 who are

00:40:19.540 involved

00:40:19.980 in an

00:40:20.280 open way

00:40:20.700 right now

00:40:21.220 tend to be

00:40:21.900 involved

00:40:22.320 with Beto

00:40:23.060 whether

00:40:24.120 that means

00:40:25.080 the Obamas

00:40:25.520 themselves

00:40:25.920 will support

00:40:26.380 anyone

00:40:26.560 I don't

00:40:27.000 know

00:40:27.220 I'm sure

00:40:27.720 they're going

00:40:28.840 to support

00:40:29.420 whoever

00:40:29.800 the nominee

00:40:30.620 is

00:40:30.960 regardless

00:40:31.280 if it's

00:40:31.620 Biden

00:40:31.900 Beto

00:40:32.680 or anyone

00:40:32.960 else

00:40:33.260 they've been

00:40:34.520 pretty silent

00:40:35.220 so far

00:40:35.860 at least

00:40:36.720 in terms

00:40:36.980 of Barack

00:40:37.540 and Michelle

00:40:37.900 Obama

00:40:38.200 but their

00:40:38.580 staffers

00:40:39.040 seem to be

00:40:39.440 gravitating

00:40:39.840 toward

00:40:40.320 Beto

00:40:40.940 O'Rourke

00:40:41.340 who is

00:40:41.980 pulling in

00:40:42.820 some interesting

00:40:43.360 fundraising numbers

00:40:44.100 so he could

00:40:44.860 be the

00:40:46.100 challenger

00:40:46.860 down the

00:40:47.160 stretch

00:40:47.320 he's not

00:40:47.620 up there

00:40:47.840 in the

00:40:48.000 polls

00:40:48.200 yet

00:40:48.400 because

00:40:48.600 people

00:40:48.800 don't know

00:40:49.060 who he is

00:40:49.400 outside of

00:40:49.800 Texas

00:40:50.040 but he is

00:40:51.240 someone to

00:40:51.540 watch as

00:40:51.860 well

00:40:52.080 yeah

00:40:52.440 you know

00:40:53.700 I

00:40:54.100 like so many

00:40:55.860 people

00:40:56.240 on Twitter

00:40:57.240 and the

00:40:57.520 internet

00:40:57.760 I am

00:40:58.500 very familiar

00:40:59.200 with the

00:40:59.680 creepy

00:41:00.060 Joe Biden

00:41:01.000 video

00:41:02.120 highlight

00:41:02.700 reels

00:41:02.960 in fact

00:41:03.300 Kellyanne

00:41:04.560 Conway

00:41:04.940 referred to

00:41:05.440 them on

00:41:05.740 TV

00:41:05.980 the other

00:41:06.380 day

00:41:06.660 so many

00:41:08.040 conservatives

00:41:08.500 know them

00:41:09.020 so you're

00:41:10.100 so right

00:41:10.460 to say

00:41:10.740 this is

00:41:11.100 liberal

00:41:11.480 infighting

00:41:12.200 because I

00:41:12.940 think every

00:41:13.300 conservative

00:41:13.800 has been

00:41:14.180 saying yeah

00:41:14.720 we told

00:41:15.260 you about

00:41:15.540 that years

00:41:15.980 ago

00:41:16.240 I think

00:41:17.260 there's

00:41:17.780 something

00:41:18.060 there

00:41:18.280 and here's

00:41:18.560 what I

00:41:18.780 mean

00:41:18.940 and let

00:41:19.260 me close

00:41:19.580 on this

00:41:19.840 I'd love

00:41:20.100 your reaction

00:41:20.620 to this

00:41:21.260 Joel

00:41:21.500 the only

00:41:22.740 reason this

00:41:23.580 is being

00:41:23.900 brought up

00:41:24.500 is it's

00:41:25.320 being brought

00:41:25.760 up by

00:41:26.380 Biden's

00:41:27.060 liberal

00:41:27.440 enemies

00:41:27.820 you mentioned

00:41:28.460 Bernie Sanders

00:41:29.280 but if

00:41:30.520 Biden were

00:41:31.420 to win

00:41:32.180 those liberals

00:41:33.920 would

00:41:34.400 close ranks

00:41:35.940 or at the

00:41:36.680 very most

00:41:38.220 stay silent

00:41:39.360 and the

00:41:40.260 mainstream

00:41:40.600 media would

00:41:41.400 give him

00:41:41.920 a complete

00:41:42.540 pass

00:41:43.040 the same

00:41:43.740 way they

00:41:44.020 give him

00:41:44.280 a pass

00:41:44.720 to the

00:41:45.060 blackface

00:41:45.740 clan

00:41:46.600 hooded

00:41:47.040 governor

00:41:47.840 from Virginia

00:41:48.580 they go

00:41:48.920 through the

00:41:49.180 motions for

00:41:49.680 a few

00:41:50.000 days

00:41:50.320 say

00:41:50.800 all right

00:41:51.220 that's

00:41:52.080 our

00:41:52.200 once a

00:41:52.660 year

00:41:52.940 even

00:41:53.440 handedness

00:41:54.060 and now

00:41:54.460 we're going

00:41:54.720 to forget

00:41:55.140 that we

00:41:55.520 care about

00:41:56.040 blackface

00:41:56.700 and things

00:41:57.420 in college

00:41:57.880 I believe

00:41:58.740 that the

00:41:59.460 only reason

00:42:00.400 the media

00:42:01.000 is even

00:42:01.280 talking about

00:42:01.900 this is

00:42:02.580 for this

00:42:02.960 brief

00:42:03.560 family

00:42:05.380 fight

00:42:05.940 after which

00:42:06.820 they'll all

00:42:07.180 close ranks

00:42:07.660 including the

00:42:08.160 media

00:42:08.380 that's my

00:42:08.760 last thought

00:42:09.320 yes

00:42:11.060 that's

00:42:11.380 correct

00:42:11.740 and in

00:42:12.180 fact

00:42:12.360 Biden's

00:42:13.140 main

00:42:13.360 accuser

00:42:13.980 so far

00:42:14.820 Lucy

00:42:15.580 Flores

00:42:16.080 said today

00:42:17.680 on television

00:42:18.320 that she

00:42:18.700 would definitely

00:42:19.260 vote for

00:42:19.740 Biden

00:42:20.020 over

00:42:20.240 Trump

00:42:20.540 that she

00:42:20.840 doesn't

00:42:21.060 think he

00:42:21.300 should run

00:42:21.580 for president

00:42:22.020 but if he's

00:42:22.480 a nominee

00:42:22.780 she will

00:42:23.100 definitely

00:42:23.400 vote for

00:42:23.800 him

00:42:23.940 so I

00:42:25.600 think

00:42:25.800 we have to

00:42:26.200 think it's all

00:42:26.620 with a grain of salt

00:42:28.640 it's not all

00:42:29.660 it's cracked up to be

00:42:30.280 but we'll see

00:42:30.820 holy cow

00:42:31.960 I didn't

00:42:32.220 imagine saying

00:42:34.920 yeah he

00:42:35.440 he groped me

00:42:35.940 but

00:42:36.600 I'd vote for him

00:42:39.320 because I'm such

00:42:40.260 that is

00:42:40.800 I didn't know

00:42:41.640 that

00:42:41.820 thank you

00:42:42.200 for that

00:42:42.520 well it's great

00:42:43.180 to see you

00:42:43.700 and I look

00:42:44.160 forward to

00:42:44.500 your covering

00:42:44.940 let me ask you

00:42:45.640 one last

00:42:46.040 quick question

00:42:46.720 one of the

00:42:47.980 interesting things

00:42:48.740 about the

00:42:49.280 2016

00:42:49.940 Republican

00:42:51.020 lineup

00:42:52.260 was there

00:42:52.580 were so

00:42:53.020 many people

00:42:53.600 in the

00:42:53.840 primary

00:42:54.140 more than

00:42:54.740 a dozen

00:42:55.200 that it

00:42:56.000 made it

00:42:56.220 so

00:42:56.400 entertaining

00:42:56.960 I think

00:42:57.760 it's also

00:42:58.080 one of the

00:42:58.360 reasons

00:42:58.620 why Trump

00:42:59.300 won

00:42:59.820 his personality

00:43:00.880 just made

00:43:01.260 him stand

00:43:01.700 up

00:43:02.040 stand out

00:43:03.080 from all

00:43:03.380 the other

00:43:03.760 less glittery

00:43:05.240 candidates

00:43:05.660 do you think

00:43:06.560 you're going

00:43:06.780 to see a

00:43:07.220 massive field

00:43:08.160 in the

00:43:08.460 Democrats

00:43:08.860 like a dozen

00:43:09.500 people or more

00:43:10.260 as we did

00:43:11.140 in the

00:43:11.340 Republicans

00:43:11.760 a couple

00:43:12.100 years ago

00:43:12.500 yes it's

00:43:13.840 going to be

00:43:14.140 a huge

00:43:14.560 field

00:43:14.980 and why

00:43:15.940 not

00:43:16.280 even if

00:43:17.020 you lose

00:43:17.480 and you're

00:43:17.800 likely to

00:43:18.200 lose

00:43:18.420 if you run

00:43:18.860 just based

00:43:19.260 on the

00:43:19.440 probabilities

00:43:19.860 you will

00:43:20.980 boost your

00:43:21.320 profile

00:43:21.700 and that's

00:43:22.380 a good

00:43:22.560 thing

00:43:22.860 look at

00:43:23.680 what's

00:43:23.880 happening

00:43:24.120 to this

00:43:24.420 mayor of

00:43:24.900 South Bend

00:43:25.360 Indiana

00:43:25.780 Pete Buttigieg

00:43:27.040 who's

00:43:28.140 not even

00:43:29.120 figuring

00:43:29.440 anywhere

00:43:29.840 in the

00:43:30.060 polls

00:43:30.300 but he's

00:43:30.620 raised

00:43:30.860 7 million

00:43:31.380 dollars

00:43:31.720 in the

00:43:31.940 first

00:43:32.100 three

00:43:32.300 months

00:43:32.580 and he's

00:43:32.820 all over

00:43:33.200 television

00:43:33.660 and Republicans

00:43:34.800 like him

00:43:35.300 because he's

00:43:35.680 the only

00:43:36.000 candidate

00:43:36.380 who sounds

00:43:36.760 like a

00:43:37.040 moderate

00:43:37.320 that gives

00:43:37.720 him no

00:43:37.960 chance

00:43:38.220 of winning

00:43:38.500 the nomination

00:43:39.020 but he's

00:43:40.400 almost like

00:43:40.820 as someone

00:43:41.120 said a

00:43:41.460 lost

00:43:41.740 libertarian

00:43:42.460 so he's

00:43:42.780 kind of

00:43:43.020 an interesting

00:43:43.380 guy

00:43:43.700 he's

00:43:43.880 boosted

00:43:44.180 his

00:43:44.320 profile

00:43:44.760 he's

00:43:45.620 up for

00:43:46.280 a cabinet

00:43:46.700 position

00:43:47.160 perhaps

00:43:47.540 in the

00:43:47.800 next

00:43:47.960 Democratic

00:43:48.360 administration

00:43:48.860 because of

00:43:49.560 the way

00:43:50.240 he's

00:43:50.500 handling

00:43:50.780 himself

00:43:51.120 in the

00:43:51.360 media

00:43:51.580 so

00:43:51.880 definitely

00:43:52.460 this is

00:43:52.880 a no

00:43:53.620 brainer

00:43:53.980 if you

00:43:54.220 have

00:43:54.400 any

00:43:54.900 ability

00:43:55.940 to sustain

00:43:56.580 the workload

00:43:57.200 it takes

00:43:57.620 to run

00:43:57.920 a presidential

00:43:58.420 campaign

00:43:58.820 you should

00:43:59.140 jump in

00:43:59.540 why not

00:44:00.160 why not

00:44:00.840 give me

00:44:01.260 60 seconds

00:44:01.940 on Hawaii's

00:44:02.840 Tulsi Gabbard

00:44:03.940 former

00:44:04.840 military vet

00:44:06.500 I think she was

00:44:06.920 a pilot

00:44:07.420 interesting take

00:44:09.080 on foreign

00:44:10.000 policy

00:44:10.640 interventionism

00:44:11.520 what's your

00:44:12.080 take on

00:44:12.440 Tulsi

00:44:12.860 very promising

00:44:15.680 new young

00:44:17.320 voice

00:44:17.800 but is

00:44:19.380 hamstrung

00:44:20.360 by the

00:44:20.660 fact

00:44:20.860 that

00:44:21.020 she

00:44:21.200 had

00:44:21.580 traditional

00:44:22.720 positions

00:44:23.480 on gay

00:44:23.900 marriage

00:44:24.320 about

00:44:24.700 10-15

00:44:25.160 years

00:44:25.440 ago

00:44:25.660 which

00:44:25.920 is

00:44:26.100 a

00:44:26.220 disqualifier

00:44:28.920 in the

00:44:29.640 Democratic

00:44:29.980 primary

00:44:30.400 today

00:44:30.760 and

00:44:31.360 she

00:44:31.540 seems

00:44:31.780 to have

00:44:31.940 had

00:44:32.040 a

00:44:32.160 rough

00:44:32.320 start

00:44:32.640 with

00:44:32.860 a bit

00:44:33.200 of

00:44:33.320 organizational

00:44:33.920 chaos

00:44:34.920 in her

00:44:35.280 campaign

00:44:35.720 she could

00:44:36.520 reappear

00:44:37.000 but I

00:44:37.780 think

00:44:37.920 it's

00:44:38.060 going

00:44:38.160 to be

00:44:38.300 hard

00:44:38.540 yeah

00:44:38.960 all right

00:44:39.720 Joel

00:44:39.860 great

00:44:40.080 to talk

00:44:40.400 to you

00:44:40.580 thanks

00:44:40.780 for the

00:44:41.020 update

00:44:41.380 all right

00:44:42.240 take

00:44:42.580 care

00:44:42.780 okay

00:44:43.000 there's

00:44:43.240 our

00:44:43.380 friend

00:44:43.700 Joel

00:44:44.360 Pollack

00:44:44.860 senior

00:44:45.460 editor

00:44:45.900 at

00:44:46.100 right

00:44:47.100 Hey

00:45:00.120 welcome

00:45:00.300 back

00:45:00.520 on my

00:45:00.740 monologue

00:45:01.060 Friday

00:45:01.400 about

00:45:01.620 Andrew

00:45:01.900 Coyne's

00:45:02.260 embarrassing

00:45:02.680 video

00:45:03.100 on the

00:45:04.080 Mueller

00:45:04.520 report

00:45:04.940 Ron

00:45:05.280 writes

00:45:05.800 Coyne

00:45:06.940 talks

00:45:07.180 with such

00:45:07.500 authority

00:45:07.880 but comes

00:45:08.240 across

00:45:08.540 as a

00:45:08.800 pompous

00:45:09.080 idiot

00:45:09.300 he wasn't

00:45:10.140 qualified

00:45:10.440 to answer

00:45:10.980 any

00:45:11.220 questions

00:45:11.740 well look

00:45:13.020 let me

00:45:13.240 make a

00:45:13.580 confession

00:45:13.940 it's

00:45:14.820 impossible

00:45:15.380 to be

00:45:15.680 an

00:45:15.820 expert

00:45:16.040 on

00:45:16.260 every

00:45:16.480 single

00:45:16.720 thing

00:45:17.100 people

00:45:17.660 have

00:45:17.960 beats

00:45:18.560 people

00:45:18.860 have

00:45:19.160 an

00:45:19.320 area

00:45:19.580 of

00:45:19.760 expertise

00:45:20.200 I

00:45:21.100 could

00:45:21.380 not

00:45:21.660 you know

00:45:22.440 I'm

00:45:22.720 very

00:45:22.980 interested

00:45:23.480 in

00:45:23.900 Italy

00:45:24.720 and Hungary

00:45:26.000 and Poland

00:45:27.160 but I

00:45:28.660 wouldn't dare

00:45:29.320 go deep

00:45:30.020 on those

00:45:30.420 countries

00:45:30.860 that's why

00:45:31.480 we talked

00:45:32.080 to Alessandro

00:45:32.680 Bocchi

00:45:33.120 from time

00:45:33.780 to time

00:45:34.080 from Milan

00:45:34.540 because I'm

00:45:34.840 trying to

00:45:35.120 learn there

00:45:35.540 I'd love

00:45:36.040 to find

00:45:36.380 someone

00:45:36.740 reliable

00:45:37.220 in Hungary

00:45:37.760 there's

00:45:39.140 no way

00:45:39.760 you're

00:45:40.080 going to

00:45:40.240 get me

00:45:40.540 answering

00:45:40.940 tough

00:45:41.380 questions

00:45:41.800 about

00:45:42.040 Poland

00:45:42.380 or Hungary

00:45:42.960 or Italy

00:45:43.720 because I'm

00:45:44.660 very shallow

00:45:45.380 in that

00:45:45.680 and I'm

00:45:46.080 willing to

00:45:46.560 admit it

00:45:46.900 certain things

00:45:47.560 I know

00:45:47.980 fairly well

00:45:48.680 I've written

00:45:49.260 a couple

00:45:49.500 books on

00:45:50.000 oil

00:45:50.300 I'm from

00:45:50.740 Alberta

00:45:51.080 I engaged

00:45:51.860 with the

00:45:52.080 oil patch

00:45:52.380 I feel

00:45:52.920 like I know

00:45:53.300 oil and gas

00:45:53.760 politics

00:45:54.100 fairly well

00:45:54.520 I mean

00:45:55.320 anyone can be

00:45:55.940 an expert

00:45:56.780 in plain old

00:45:57.920 politics

00:45:58.320 you don't need

00:45:58.780 to be an

00:45:59.060 expert

00:45:59.260 but the

00:45:59.940 Mueller

00:46:00.240 investigation

00:46:00.880 was a

00:46:02.260 technical

00:46:03.020 investigation

00:46:04.040 a legal

00:46:04.740 investigation

00:46:05.560 that was

00:46:06.400 measurable

00:46:06.860 500

00:46:07.720 witnesses

00:46:08.340 40 staff

00:46:10.060 19 lawyers

00:46:10.900 like there's

00:46:11.300 certain things

00:46:12.300 you either know

00:46:13.660 them or you

00:46:13.940 don't

00:46:14.380 and Andrew

00:46:15.980 Coyne

00:46:16.400 tried to

00:46:17.520 give answers

00:46:18.420 as an

00:46:19.080 expert

00:46:19.540 on a

00:46:20.520 technical

00:46:21.100 matter

00:46:21.560 and it

00:46:22.540 was just

00:46:23.080 pure BS

00:46:24.080 and if he

00:46:25.260 was talking

00:46:25.740 about well

00:46:26.360 who do I

00:46:26.900 think is going

00:46:27.240 to win the

00:46:27.560 election in

00:46:28.040 Alberta

00:46:28.260 it's all BS

00:46:29.080 to a degree

00:46:29.620 right

00:46:29.860 we're all in

00:46:30.460 the same boat

00:46:30.940 together

00:46:31.320 we're all

00:46:31.940 guessing

00:46:32.360 we're all

00:46:32.720 trying to

00:46:32.980 make sense

00:46:33.340 of polls

00:46:33.820 and the

00:46:34.640 vibe

00:46:35.040 but when

00:46:35.720 you give

00:46:36.100 a technical

00:46:36.860 answer to

00:46:37.500 a technical

00:46:38.080 question

00:46:38.600 well maybe

00:46:39.700 they could

00:46:40.100 subpoena

00:46:40.800 the full

00:46:41.760 Mueller

00:46:42.100 report

00:46:42.420 just stop

00:46:43.780 making it

00:46:44.240 up

00:46:44.460 and the

00:46:45.240 thing

00:46:45.520 it's

00:46:45.880 I have

00:46:46.420 this

00:46:46.640 image in

00:46:47.680 my mind

00:46:48.140 and it

00:46:48.420 comes up

00:46:48.820 all the

00:46:49.080 time

00:46:49.300 you know

00:46:49.940 when you're

00:46:50.260 walking by

00:46:50.820 someone's

00:46:51.400 property

00:46:52.280 and there's

00:46:52.640 a picket

00:46:53.020 fence

00:46:53.380 and he

00:46:54.420 maybe there

00:46:54.960 was on the

00:46:55.380 other side

00:46:55.700 of the

00:46:55.820 picket

00:46:56.020 fence

00:46:56.180 I don't

00:46:56.420 know

00:46:56.580 I'll never

00:46:56.840 know

00:46:57.120 and there's

00:46:58.080 one plank

00:46:58.700 missing

00:46:59.120 and as you

00:47:00.100 go by

00:47:00.460 maybe a

00:47:00.840 glance by

00:47:01.340 you don't

00:47:01.640 stop

00:47:02.020 and you

00:47:02.740 know

00:47:02.840 you're not

00:47:03.100 a voyeur

00:47:03.680 but you

00:47:03.980 walk in

00:47:04.400 and there's

00:47:04.900 one plank

00:47:05.680 missing

00:47:05.980 and you

00:47:06.620 just glance

00:47:07.060 for one

00:47:07.560 second

00:47:07.880 and you

00:47:08.480 walk by

00:47:09.100 I'm speaking

00:47:11.140 metaphorically

00:47:11.820 here I don't

00:47:12.240 think that's

00:47:12.740 ever happened

00:47:13.280 but if there

00:47:14.180 was one

00:47:14.540 plank

00:47:14.880 missing

00:47:15.260 for half

00:47:17.260 a second

00:47:17.840 you say

00:47:18.420 well what's

00:47:18.680 behind the

00:47:19.040 ball

00:47:19.360 and now

00:47:21.600 you know

00:47:21.920 what's behind

00:47:22.380 every plank

00:47:22.940 right for a

00:47:23.600 second

00:47:23.800 that's my

00:47:24.740 point with

00:47:25.120 Andrew Coyne

00:47:25.660 most of the

00:47:26.880 time we don't

00:47:27.460 know if he's

00:47:28.000 BSing

00:47:28.640 but today the

00:47:30.020 one picket

00:47:30.740 fence plank

00:47:31.780 was missing

00:47:32.360 and we saw

00:47:33.380 he don't

00:47:34.580 know what

00:47:34.940 he's talking

00:47:35.460 about at

00:47:36.560 all but he's

00:47:37.360 good at

00:47:37.640 faking it

00:47:38.300 it's fake

00:47:39.780 news I don't

00:47:40.320 believe him

00:47:40.600 anymore I don't

00:47:41.240 believe him

00:47:41.480 anymore and as

00:47:42.340 a youngster I

00:47:42.820 used to look

00:47:43.160 up to him

00:47:43.580 James writes

00:47:45.340 there is still

00:47:46.340 some quality at

00:47:47.460 the National

00:47:47.820 Post such as

00:47:48.420 Bladsford K and

00:47:49.420 the occasional

00:47:49.820 black piece I

00:47:50.720 tuned out the

00:47:51.160 elitist coin years

00:47:52.120 ago yeah you know

00:47:53.100 I made that

00:47:54.000 point I referenced

00:47:54.820 in particular Rex

00:47:55.620 Murphy the best

00:47:57.120 Conrad Black very

00:47:58.580 smart very enjoyable

00:47:59.440 and a contrarian

00:48:00.500 these days I

00:48:02.100 should have

00:48:02.460 mentioned Barbara

00:48:03.000 Kate she's

00:48:03.460 great as you

00:48:03.900 know we have

00:48:04.200 her on our

00:48:04.800 show from time

00:48:05.220 to time

00:48:06.180 occasionally there's

00:48:08.040 some stuff in the

00:48:08.620 financial post that's

00:48:09.520 still good on

00:48:10.680 issues like global

00:48:11.400 warming but that's

00:48:12.800 about it I see

00:48:13.680 today that the

00:48:14.320 left-wing feminist

00:48:15.600 editor of the

00:48:16.740 National Post

00:48:17.280 Anne-Marie Owens

00:48:17.980 is leaving

00:48:18.540 that came as a

00:48:20.940 surprise to them

00:48:21.700 and I don't know

00:48:22.340 who the new

00:48:22.760 editor would be

00:48:23.340 I don't even

00:48:24.100 think it matters

00:48:24.880 they have such a

00:48:25.880 tiny staff now

00:48:26.660 most of their

00:48:27.160 content is just

00:48:27.920 wire copy from

00:48:29.200 like the

00:48:29.500 Washington Post

00:48:30.300 most of the

00:48:31.120 stuff that bugs

00:48:31.640 me about the

00:48:32.180 National Post

00:48:32.640 isn't even written

00:48:33.240 in Canada it's

00:48:34.300 just like some

00:48:35.340 boilerplate bought

00:48:37.080 from Washington

00:48:37.660 and New York

00:48:38.140 doesn't why would

00:48:39.760 you even get the

00:48:40.740 National Post

00:48:41.360 anymore I don't

00:48:42.080 know and I say

00:48:42.840 this as someone who

00:48:43.520 was there in the

00:48:44.120 glory days the early

00:48:44.980 days I worked there

00:48:45.960 for two years

00:48:46.620 on my interview with

00:48:49.140 Janice Atkinson about

00:48:50.120 Brexit getting

00:48:51.060 delayed Lynn writes

00:48:52.740 the UK did

00:48:54.580 wonderfully for

00:48:55.260 centuries without

00:48:55.920 the EU it will

00:48:57.080 again just give it a

00:48:57.780 couple of years

00:48:58.480 yeah well I mean

00:48:59.920 I'm not the first to

00:49:01.460 say it the best

00:49:02.540 thing that ever

00:49:02.960 happened to the

00:49:03.580 United Kingdom was

00:49:04.360 the English Channel

00:49:05.180 we talked about

00:49:07.460 picket fences a

00:49:08.080 moment ago good

00:49:08.820 fences make good

00:49:09.440 neighbors how about

00:49:11.340 a huge moat around

00:49:12.840 an island to protect

00:49:14.160 you I'm not saying

00:49:15.640 there should be no

00:49:16.120 trade but to let

00:49:18.500 European Parliament

00:49:21.100 in Brussels Belgium

00:49:22.780 pass laws that are

00:49:24.540 binding on the

00:49:25.260 United Kingdom not

00:49:27.660 until very very

00:49:28.860 recently would any

00:49:30.320 party of the left

00:49:31.180 or the right have

00:49:32.780 accepted that as

00:49:34.120 as anything less

00:49:35.480 than treasonous I

00:49:36.800 mean it's just so

00:49:37.920 staggering how that

00:49:38.980 country has let

00:49:39.540 itself become undone

00:49:40.600 and I think there's

00:49:41.840 there's lessons there

00:49:43.060 as always premonitions

00:49:44.760 even for Canada as

00:49:46.740 regards other

00:49:47.680 supra national

00:49:49.060 organizations like the

00:49:50.480 United Nations so

00:49:51.640 when Ahmed Hassan and

00:49:53.100 Justin Trudeau say oh

00:49:55.000 don't pay attention to

00:49:56.400 the global compact on

00:49:57.980 migration nah nah nah

00:49:59.460 anyone who tells you

00:50:00.160 that's binding their

00:50:00.820 line it don't nothing

00:50:01.920 to see here you know

00:50:02.780 what I'm sure that's

00:50:04.020 what they said to the

00:50:05.220 United Kingdom about

00:50:06.300 being in the EU oh

00:50:08.080 guys just don't worry

00:50:09.120 about it now don't you

00:50:10.360 worry about you're losing

00:50:11.160 your sovereignty what

00:50:12.760 are you some xenophobe

00:50:13.920 or something I think

00:50:15.120 that there are warnings

00:50:15.960 for us here on this

00:50:17.400 side of the Atlantic

00:50:18.060 from the Brexit and

00:50:20.580 the establishment's

00:50:21.820 absolute desire to

00:50:23.840 undermine democracy I

00:50:25.140 hope they leave soon I

00:50:26.700 do fear there will be

00:50:27.800 violence in that country

00:50:28.920 if the democracy is

00:50:29.920 destroyed well there

00:50:32.140 you have it that's our

00:50:32.760 Monday carbon tax day

00:50:34.480 April Fool's Day until

00:50:36.180 tomorrow on behalf of

00:50:37.120 all of us here at rebel

00:50:37.880 world headquarters good

00:50:38.660 night and keep fighting

00:50:39.860 for freedom

Rebel News Podcast - April 02, 2019

Why the Liberals' carbon tax is a scam. (No, you're not getting that “rebate”...)

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