Rebel News Podcast - Yukon Strong： Guest DJ Sumanik on gun rights in Canada

00:00:00.000 Oh hello Rebels, you're listening to a free audio only recording of my weekly Wednesday night show

00:00:05.300 The Gun Show and tonight The Gun Show is also like an actual gun show and that's because my guest

00:00:12.200 tonight is DJ Sumanik. You might know him as Yukon Strong. He's a hunting guide and a YouTuber and

00:00:21.880 also a strong vocal advocate for Canada's law-abiding firearms owners and I met him at the

00:00:28.920 Integrity March in Ottawa and we were both so busy there that we really didn't have time for a proper

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00:01:57.440 The largest pro-gun rights rally in a generation took place on Parliament Hill over the weekend and

00:02:18.000 so of course CBC got the whole story wrong. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:02:27.440 Saturday September 12th on Parliament Hill 5,000 Canadians from all across the country and from

00:02:47.520 all walks of life came together in the nation's capital to participate in the Canadian Coalition

00:02:53.320 for Firearms Rights Integrity March. Now the marchers said they wanted integrity from politicians

00:03:00.620 the liberals let's be honest here who rammed through a massive gun ban. 1,500 models of hunting rifles

00:03:09.500 and shotguns in the middle of a pandemic outside the scrutiny of Parliament in an ordering council

00:03:15.900 with just the stroke of a pen. It's wholly undemocratic. Now Rebel News was there with two teams of reporters

00:03:22.660 on the ground to make sure that someone in the media got the story right because we knew the state broadcaster

00:03:29.500 CBC and the rest of the mainstream media would definitely not and they did not fail to disappoint.

00:03:36.380 They have to protect their sugar daddy paymaster Justin Trudeau as you know.

00:03:40.840 The CBC misreported the number of marchers as hundreds instead of thousands. They said the CCFR declined to speak to them

00:03:47.660 when the CCFR absolutely did and CBC generally did their very best to downplay the groundswell of mainstream

00:03:54.920 anger and opposition to the outlawing of lawfully obtained property from law-abiding people

00:04:00.980 as a response to illegal gun crime happening in Canada's big cities. Now it was a very busy day and

00:04:07.500 you can see all of our coverage of the event and support our independent coverage at

00:04:12.780 handsoffourguns.ca but the day was so busy that I didn't get to talk to everyone I wanted to talk

00:04:19.000 to. My guest tonight is one of those people joining me tonight from his home in the Yukon in an interview

00:04:25.200 we recorded yesterday morning is DJ Sumanik. Most of you may know him as Yukon Strong.

00:04:42.780 So joining me now from his home in the Yukon is DJ Sumanik. Now most of you gun enthusiasts out there

00:04:53.280 may know him as Yukon Strong. Strong advocate for the rights of Canada's lawful law-abiding firearms

00:05:01.320 community and I'm so excited to have him on the show. DJ thanks for joining me. Why don't you give

00:05:05.960 people a brief rundown? I mean the firearms community will definitely know who you are but not everybody who

00:05:11.720 watches my show is from the firearms community. A lot of them just care about property rights which

00:05:15.660 is good enough for me. Why don't you tell them a little bit about who you are? Well before we start

00:05:21.400 I have to tell you Sheila when you were at the Integrity March the other day I found out that you

00:05:28.900 are literally an angel on my shoulder and if you go and watch the Andrew Lawton show they had me on

00:05:39.080 there doing an interview and it was like a weird camera trick. You were just in the background but

00:05:43.240 you were like sitting on my shoulder for an interview. I was like wait a minute that's

00:05:48.900 Sheila Gunn-Reed right there. So I'm like is she a good angel or an evil angel? You know I did get it

00:05:57.540 at the rally people were like you're a lot smaller in person so maybe that's just like one of those

00:06:03.760 things. I'm just a little tiny person on your shoulder. Yeah okay well as for myself let's see

00:06:10.520 well born and raised in the Yukon very much an outdoor oriented childhood so my father he had

00:06:22.240 definitely some different ideas even for up here back then. So we had a trap line to start with but

00:06:27.800 we also had a fox farm to breed for fur. We also live trapped links Martin and Fisher to breed in

00:06:38.560 captivity for zoos. So anyway that that was like a most of the year-round job doing that you know

00:06:46.440 and then any other time we had left we were out there hunting hiking in the mountains but I'm a

00:06:52.540 sheep hunting addict is is what my that's where my my love is. I work all year to to get out there

00:07:00.080 and get in the mountains and and just be amongst the elements. That's my oh I'm just thinking about

00:07:06.500 it right now because it's that time of year right and you know when I was about I think I was

00:07:17.080 seven five it was five five or seven I can't remember but my sister my mother and I were in

00:07:23.460 a really bad car crash and she wound up getting a brain aneurysm and paralysis from it so at that

00:07:30.140 point we had to move into the city to go get her help to get you know physiotherapy and things like

00:07:38.420 that to get her along and uh so I stopped hunting for a good 10 10 to 15 years as a result of that

00:07:47.120 uh you know and uh then I came back my parents split up at some point along the way there and I

00:07:54.500 came back to with my dad he's like well why don't we go hunting and since then I've just been stuck in

00:07:59.900 the outdoors now I've gotten myself licensed as a guide I go out twice a year to take out uh hunters

00:08:05.960 professionally um and my dad has an outfitting area now in BC and uh we spend as much time as we

00:08:15.140 humanly possibly can in the outdoors so um yeah it's to to say firearms are a part of that is a

00:08:23.240 pretty small understatement it's part of my job it's part of uh what I love you know and it's it's

00:08:29.200 literally for self-protection too both my father and I are in the process now we're gonna I think

00:08:34.740 we're gonna try and get our authorization to carry for when we're um working on uh the outfit because

00:08:40.760 the bears are crazy man like sometimes they when they're wounded and stuff and you never know

00:08:46.840 especially when you have a client there and it's in thick brush and it's just it's hard to handle

00:08:51.420 a rifle you know in certain instances and most of the time you can use a rifle most of the time but

00:08:57.180 there are I've had two instances now where I really I thought geez I wish I had a pistol right now you

00:09:03.820 know and you don't really want to wish you had a pistol when there's a bear in front of your face

00:09:10.420 right so um yeah that's kind of where I'm at and then I started to notice all the things that uh

00:09:19.180 Trudeau the liberals it's not just firearms you know they they really have been um up to some

00:09:27.440 nefarious stuff and I said I was looking around so why isn't somebody doing something why how where

00:09:33.020 where's our politicians where where's our leaders what why isn't somebody stalking us it's it's crazy

00:09:38.640 and then you think well can't get any crazier and then you look in the news the next day and it's 10

00:09:43.100 times it's crazy you know so at that point I was like somebody's got to say something and uh here I

00:09:49.680 am now I'm online doing what I can to throw a monkey wrench in every liberal plan I can see

00:09:54.620 and uh stand up for peaceful uh law-abiding gun owners across this country because if we um if we

00:10:05.000 preserve our rights we're we're actually going to be preserving everyone's rights whether they

00:10:10.840 realize it or not even the folks who uh don't own firearms you know uh you don't want to give up

00:10:17.160 your right like just because say I I have no plan to exercise my right to gay marriage doesn't want

00:10:24.500 to doesn't mean I want to ban it right I want to make sure that people have the options for their

00:10:29.800 lifestyle they can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't harm me and I would like the same thing

00:10:35.180 in return and we're not seeing that anymore from the other side of the political spectrum they are out to

00:10:40.080 eradicate anyone who disagrees is what it seems like to me so hopefully soon uh we can get Canada

00:10:48.640 back on that you know unified path to you know peaceful uh free and tolerant and kind and polite

00:10:57.020 people again and that's what we saw at the the integrity march I think you know I love that um

00:11:03.200 that idea that and you see it a lot on the right um and uh you know I hate to make property rights a

00:11:11.380 left-right issue but it as it turns out it seems to be that way um when you see these sorts of things

00:11:18.420 happening these slow creep of the government into your life you know there comes a time where you say

00:11:25.080 well at first you say well why isn't somebody doing something about this and then you think well

00:11:31.720 why not me like why I know what I'm talking about I I don't need to be a fancy politician I don't need

00:11:39.200 a fancy studio to do these things I have a computer I have a cell phone why can't I be the one telling

00:11:45.400 the other side of the story so I love that about how you came into sort of being a an online activist

00:11:51.560 like moving from hunting guide to online activist is sort of the same trajectory as moving from being

00:11:56.600 a farm wife to a citizen journalist like me uh it's funny how many people took that same trajectory um

00:12:03.520 now long before sorry go ahead I'll interrupt you there yeah please when the knife's to your throat

00:12:10.640 Sheila what do you do ask for where you or you push the arm away right yeah it's really what it is

00:12:17.380 the knife is at our throat in many respects right now uh in this country and um you know my dad and

00:12:25.600 I my dad he like he is he's a character to say the least and uh you know he he's like he's like what

00:12:36.060 are you doing online he's like you're activist no I hate activists he said I said dad like we're not

00:12:42.080 going to be able to hunt soon unless we do something here you know and then I started

00:12:46.020 we started what we're doing right now is we're working on a show in the background it's going

00:12:50.880 to be Yukon Strong the show and we're just going to be recording our adventures in the wilderness we

00:12:55.660 have I would say maybe 25 percent of the first season done already and it's it's going to be great

00:13:02.180 and now he's all into it he's like yeah and he's and I'm like we can have a section if you want

00:13:07.200 where you can just say whatever you want he's like I can talk about Donald Trump I said sure if

00:13:12.900 you want you know I don't care like he he he can he he's he's now he's the same thing that happened

00:13:20.780 to me is is happening to him I think so um everybody's got to get involved in here like we

00:13:27.600 saw the last election you know the conservatives they won the majority vote which means we still

00:13:33.380 have the silent majority out there but we need them to become a vocal minority now like they did

00:13:37.720 in Ottawa last weekend that was just fantastic to see so many good people together like it was awesome

00:13:44.540 well talk about the integrity march in a second because I'm still sort of riding high

00:13:49.780 from from being with that many people who care about um again I say property rights because there

00:13:56.600 were a lot of people there who were like I don't own a gun but I respect your right to have one

00:14:01.800 and be a legal firearms owner you're vetted every single day why are you the problem I want police

00:14:08.380 resources spent somewhere else so I thought that was great because there was a strong contingent of

00:14:12.400 those people in the crowd um but I was reading your article in the post-millennial that you wrote

00:14:18.600 I guess it was back in January of 2020 so five months before the ordering council that banned 1500

00:14:26.360 popular models of rifles and shotguns and you know they continue to shoehorn more models into there

00:14:33.540 every single day but you the story of that article is that you were actually quite reluctant

00:14:40.640 to have to become you know this this advocate for the firearms owning community um but Justin Trudeau

00:14:48.920 forced you to be one yeah like I I don't want like don't get me wrong it was fun to me to all the

00:14:56.440 people out there and I've made I was actually thinking about this last night because I was like

00:15:02.120 okay I don't I don't want to get involved in this it's exhausting you have to like I feel like I have

00:15:08.400 the same fight a thousand times with the same people like there's a real um there's a real you know

00:15:16.640 you know what it is is the folks on the other side of this argument they're they're starved

00:15:20.800 intellectually for for statistics data and new arguments new justifications for for their

00:15:26.360 narrative so you just get these people that just keep repeating things and it's like

00:15:31.140 they're literally any argument they make we we have an answer for it and we have the data for it there's

00:15:38.240 very few instances where they can be like yeah we got you you know yeah um but now I'm

00:15:46.540 starting to also feel like I made so many new friends this weekend you know like it it's it has

00:15:52.940 brought some some positivity into my world too you know um but it is it's exhausting like I I do

00:16:01.520 everything myself like I have to make my videos like I was the whole flight home I was so tired on the

00:16:06.420 way home I just wanted to sleep and I had to make videos the whole time and um you know it's

00:16:13.180 it's uh it's a lot of work you know and you have to be monitoring things to make sure you're on top

00:16:19.620 of situations and it's mentally draining and there's a lot of negativity like people are attacking you

00:16:26.400 people are saying completely horrible things that they would never ever say to your face you know

00:16:32.320 and um at the end of the day I just want to I just want to go out hunting I just want to I

00:16:39.180 I just want to live my life in peace and you know I'll be honest probably if if we can secure gun

00:16:46.680 rights and property in this country uh you know get a change in government I'm gonna ease off the gas

00:16:53.220 pedal like a thousand percent and go back to enjoying my life I I just I right now I understand that

00:16:59.740 um people need to step up wherever they can we need we need as many voices as we can get so

00:17:07.040 I gotta do what I can well firearms owners like me I'm I'm grateful for the work that you do but

00:17:14.320 when you it's true when you point out the like the lack of an intellectual argument from the other side

00:17:20.220 the one that I hear the most is what do you need an assault weapon for as though these things that are

00:17:26.320 being banned are assault weapons but you know like that's the one thing that they that that for me I

00:17:31.840 think is the one prevailing argument what do you need assault weapons for and my answer to that is

00:17:37.740 it's not up to the government to tell me what I need because I don't even have to need this I can

00:17:42.380 just want it and that's good enough um but secondarily they're not assault weapons to start with so

00:17:48.520 it's almost as though there is this wall of ignorance that I think for some people

00:17:54.760 it doesn't matter the facts and statistics we're never going to break through it they're true believers

00:17:59.960 it's like a religion but on the other side there are people who that we may never hear from we may

00:18:07.960 never ever hear from them but when we say to them did you know that assault weapons have been banned

00:18:14.180 for decades did you know that Justin Trudeau is just using that term to play on uh the fact that you

00:18:22.060 don't have that information and he doesn't want you to have that information I think there are people

00:18:25.960 out there who their eyes do get opened up to these sorts of things and so I guess it gives me hope

00:18:30.960 to fight on well you know wow there's a lot to unpack there so sorry it's okay no it's all right so

00:18:39.680 let's look so let's start with what you said at the beginning there said why why do you need

00:18:44.520 an assault weapon what a what an inflammatory statement right yeah so many levels so first of all

00:18:51.840 you know who who who gives you the right to determine what anyone owns in this country

00:18:57.120 you know period you know just because you are uncomfortable with my lifestyle doesn't give

00:19:02.720 you the right to try and eradicate it and that's what we're talking about it's a form of discrimination

00:19:06.780 number two um you know I would I would suggest that the idea for you know why why does somebody need

00:19:16.400 an assault weapon well if there's a mortal threat that exists in the society to the point that

00:19:24.480 police need to be armed in public they need to to carry a firearm uh in order to protect themselves

00:19:31.520 and society around them then I would put forth that same danger exists for every single Canadian

00:19:39.000 okay so so really what we're not talking about is whether or not there's justification uh for for

00:19:46.760 lethal uh the ability for lethal defense in this country what we're talking about is just the manner

00:19:53.160 and in which it's okay you think it's okay for some people to do it you don't think it's okay for me to

00:19:58.200 do it you you think it's okay for this person to do it while calling to defund the police head scratcher you

00:20:05.080 know um but at the end of the day you know what what separates me from law enforcement what is it

00:20:11.400 it's it's simply training you know they they get trained to to de-escalate situations and make sure

00:20:18.040 that they can understand when use of force is appropriate etc but the bottom line is there's folks

00:20:26.520 out there trying to do really nasty stuff to everyone they can 24 7 and they will get away with it if they

00:20:33.080 can and the police cannot be everywhere all the time we're seeing them like all over the world

00:20:39.400 right now being overwhelmed uh with just with political unrest never mind criminal or homicidal

00:20:45.960 intent right and then finally the last piece of your argument there uh yeah assault weapons it's it's not a

00:20:53.880 real term it's slang right this was made up by media uh politicians and anti-gun activists now

00:21:03.080 to be fair and i'm i'm interested in having a fair discussion i would i would say that an assault

00:21:09.560 rifle is a real thing uh you know for instance that the sturmgewehr 44 that was uh made during world war

00:21:19.080 ii by hitler and the nazis and it's the rumor is hitler named it himself right this and it literally

00:21:26.680 translated to assault rifle because he wanted to give his troops you know confidence that they had

00:21:32.600 this new sort of super weapon or something and then they had they wanted to frighten their opponents

00:21:38.200 right so it makes you really think about it like why are these folks these supposedly peaceful folks

00:21:45.400 using nazi propaganda to push their agenda in 2020 you know and at the end of the day like you said 1977

00:21:54.760 bill c51 and if paulie susuviant is out there watching this i suspect they are they they they've

00:22:00.520 been really on on my back uh the last little while trying to i don't even know you know um

00:22:08.200 they they released a document i have the pdf okay where they define and a quote unquote an

00:22:15.240 assault weapon as a select fire rifle capable of automatic fire and those guns were banned in 1977

00:22:22.280 period period they're they're not accessible they're not available for purchase the only people

00:22:28.040 who have access to them are military and law enforcement and a extremely extremely tiny tiny

00:22:34.680 group of of grandfathered in people who can't use them can't transport them uh can't they can't do

00:22:41.640 anything with them they're they're locked in their safety and can't go anywhere so um when i hear

00:22:48.600 trudeau uh and bill blair go on and on about you know military style this and assault weapon that

00:22:56.440 you know it's it's like you're talking about banning a unicorn you know you guys like

00:23:03.240 we're trying to we're trying to save lives right like we don't i don't want okay i don't want to have

00:23:08.040 people getting shot because i don't want violence in my society canada is like the most peaceful

00:23:14.120 peaceful place in the world but i also don't want people having these incidents you know because then

00:23:21.320 it gets blamed on to me that they they attempt to assign class guilt and label me as a monster

00:23:29.640 you know so i i legitimately want to solve this problem because it's it's it's causing serious

00:23:35.640 problems in my life okay and um you know when they when they use those terms we can't we're not even

00:23:43.800 being honest and when you start the foundation of an argument with dishonesty the conclusions that you

00:23:50.120 arrive from that discussion are going to be equally false it's all just you're like i said you're talking

00:23:55.080 about banning unicorns you you can't do it so um at the end of the day what we're looking at here is

00:24:02.280 blair and friends trying to drive canadians politically using fear and that's why they

00:24:09.080 attempt to change language to redefine definitions and make people you know believe in things that

00:24:16.680 aren't real because when you when you change um how somebody thinks about something you also change how

00:24:24.280 they feel about it and we can do an experiment on that if you'd like i could do it on you right now

00:24:29.640 okay so let's pretend that we're in a foreign country let's pretend i don't know we're in europe

00:24:37.720 somewhere and we're we're neighboring countries and we we speak different languages but in your country

00:24:46.840 we have we have masculine and feminine pronouns like french for instance and we'll use a tree as an

00:24:53.960 example so in your country a tree is a masculine pronoun so when you look at that tree you say okay

00:25:01.320 well it's big it's strong uh you know it's uh stoic i don't know whatever you whatever the word masculine

00:25:10.440 brings to your mind right but in my country well that tree is feminine okay so i'm thinking it's maternal

00:25:18.360 it's motherly it's beautiful uh it's peaceful right so already because we've we've changed the words

00:25:28.200 in our language we have different feelings about an object okay so now this is now you see why they're

00:25:37.160 trying to push this term assault weapon because it invokes fear and people who don't know about it it

00:25:43.640 invokes a mental image that they've seen in a movie or something and then that drives them

00:25:47.800 politically and they don't just do it on guns they do it on everything you know it's it's not

00:25:53.320 a carbon tax it's a price on pollution you know like they do it on so many different issues and

00:26:00.840 once you catch on to it you're like whoa okay this is kind of like it is a form of brainwashing

00:26:07.400 i guess not well maybe not brainwashing but um it's it's emotional manipulation that's what that's

00:26:14.120 what it is and canadians are we're a kind of people we're a friendly people we're a compassionate

00:26:19.880 people so it makes us targets for that because generally we want to help we generally want to

00:26:25.400 do good no matter what side of the political spectrum we're on and uh yeah when you read an

00:26:32.200 article and it makes you feel afraid or you read an article that makes you feel angry or sympathetic or

00:26:37.480 sad or outraged yeah now you're thinking well i'm going to get rid of this guy and i'm going to vote for

00:26:42.280 that and you know here we are divided our country in five years was you know a wonderful peaceful

00:26:50.040 place and now we're at each other's throats about everything it seems it's it's absurd what a wonderful

00:26:56.680 segue though into uh the integrity march because cbc redefined the term thousands to mean hundreds

00:27:07.240 in their coverage of what happened at the integrity march um it was the largest pro firearms rights

00:27:15.480 rally since the late 90s since the uh long gun registry was brought in um and yet the mainstream

00:27:23.320 media did everything they could to downplay just the sheer size of the event and i think the normalcy of

00:27:31.400 everybody there but you were there so tell me what you think okay well because i'm gonna once again

00:27:38.680 try and be fair you know i i i was caught off guard by the amount of people so i was like well we need

00:27:44.840 a thousand people that's what rod was thinking and the night before i'm like oh my gosh what if nobody

00:27:49.480 comes i was scared but then i went out for a walk that night and i just walked down spark street and

00:27:56.520 there's a whole whack of people like every bar was taken over by the ccfr sitting on the patty and

00:28:01.240 they're like yukon what are you doing here i was like okay so there's going to be a few people here

00:28:07.720 i thought and then i'm like well for and i'm like where did you guys fly in from bc whatever you know

00:28:13.560 and uh so i'm like well for every one person who fly flew in from bc you know or alberta you know

00:28:20.760 know there's going to be 10 people probably coming from you know an hour away right so clearly there

00:28:27.960 was a hunger to have our voice heard you know and uh there at first when i first showed up because we

00:28:37.800 came early i was i walked up with tracy and uh there was like there there was about 800 people there

00:28:45.240 right but that was at like 12 30 or something you know and uh it just kept filling and filling up

00:28:52.440 and really the biggest group of people came right at 1 p.m and if tracy and rod if you're

00:28:59.000 out there watching this if you're organizing the next one um what i would uh suggest is that

00:29:07.480 like the the crowd it moves really slow like by the time you give an order at the front

00:29:12.040 you know it's 15 minutes behind so you know even at the end when i was recording the procession

00:29:18.520 they were like wrapping things up on the hill and there were still hundreds and hundreds and

00:29:22.440 hundreds of people coming like every minute you know so um i i didn't realize how many people were

00:29:29.240 there like i was like this has got to be a thousand people at least and then you know my i ran i recorded

00:29:35.400 the the procession you can see it on my youtube channel i ran out of batteries i couldn't even

00:29:39.560 uh record to the end so yeah there was quite a few people there and the insistence of the the anti-gun

00:29:51.320 folks and the establishment media to try and discredit this it's it's just really juvenile

00:29:57.160 you know it really is like you can go like go watch my video there's there's no way it's 800 people

00:30:04.920 like me i i would say it's probably like in the video it's probably 400 people a minute you know

00:30:11.560 something like that uh would be kind of realistic it's just they're they're lined up about 10 people

00:30:17.880 across and they're just coming you know coming so i don't know i i don't i don't care to count it

00:30:23.320 and whatever but it just shows you again how how how they're trying to emotionally manipulate

00:30:32.280 canadians they're trying to make it all these guys weren't weren't there and the majority of

00:30:37.160 people feel like this on that issue and it's just you know cbc in particular they are a public funded

00:30:45.080 company they have a mandate to represent all canadians the fact that the establishment media

00:30:54.520 and the the anti-gun folks online are are behaving in a very juvenile fashion to try and you know

00:31:04.200 discredit the amount of people out there um who who showed up to the integrity march it's really

00:31:10.040 indicative of of what they're doing because they portray without question online that they have the

00:31:17.000 overwhelming amount of support you know but if you look at there's like a handful of anti-gun groups

00:31:23.400 in canada they have you know a few die die hard followers on social media that post sort of the

00:31:30.280 same stuff over and over again and really vindictive like they're the they're they're extremists

00:31:36.280 yeah and that's fine that's the right it's a free country and many uh of these folks um you know they

00:31:44.760 they they they they definitely scare me a little bit in the sense that you know they're going off and

00:31:54.200 on or sorry on and on about the threat that i'm supposed to be but um you know they're worried that

00:32:03.000 they're losing control of this narrative they we see this issue for instance in energy development

00:32:09.320 there's there's you can go look on youtube there's people who have like entire businesses that are

00:32:14.280 formed about inventing you know a fake online support for whatever the issue of the day is to

00:32:21.400 to try and bully a company into change and i think that's pretty much the tactic that these people are

00:32:28.040 using because they tried to have a a protest last year and it was like it was literally it was like 20

00:32:34.680 20 people at one there was like three people at another one i think in toronto like the the heart

00:32:40.440 of their support they got like 100 people you know we have thousands thousands and thousands of people

00:32:47.800 online thousands and thousands of people willing to fly across the country to talk about this what

00:32:54.280 you know we we have i think not only the first and the second now uh largest e-petitions in canadian

00:33:02.200 parliamentary history okay and these are verified you know there's no monkey business about this

00:33:08.040 um these are people and these are canadians and if you i see uh some of these groups they they put up

00:33:17.880 things like oh we had five thousand hundred thousand signature in a petition 30 years ago well great

00:33:24.040 so have let's see your petition now you know times change support for issues change and there is

00:33:31.800 a hunger right now uh for civil liberties in this country because the trudeau liberals are it's like

00:33:38.040 you're having like a thousand mosquitoes in your face on every single thing it's like screw up just

00:33:42.200 just go away you know like like we go you guys can have whatever you want to have you can do all this

00:33:49.320 stuff and run the country you can waste millions of dollars that's our democracy i i hate it but

00:33:55.640 leave me alone like why why why are you you know threatening me with jail time right now what what

00:34:03.400 what other demographic in this country is is being criminally targeted by the government you know

00:34:09.560 like imagine if we the government was like okay well if you're uh gonna be protesting i don't know

00:34:16.600 climate change or whatever uh yeah we're gonna we're gonna label you as horrible monsters and by

00:34:23.560 the way we're gonna ban your electric car and it can sit in your driveway uh you can't sell it you

00:34:29.160 can't drive it and we'll we'll maybe pay you i don't know 25 percent what it's worth with your own

00:34:34.840 money by the way uh in a couple of years when we when we kind of figure out what we're doing with this

00:34:41.080 you know and that's just from a private perspective um you know think about businesses that are involved

00:34:47.640 in this they got like millions of dollars in freaking inventory that they they have to sit on

00:34:52.280 during a pandemic like people need cash right now mr trudeau um you're handing it out like candy

00:35:00.760 apparently because people are so desperate and um you know meanwhile what do you do to to the gun

00:35:07.640 shops little mom and pops that shops they've been doing this for years you you take a massive chunk of

00:35:14.200 their capital their assets and just lock it like why why would why wouldn't like a gun dealership be able to

00:35:21.560 you know at least sell the remaining stock that they have you know like that that would be

00:35:28.600 at least reasonable you know i i don't know there's there's so many aspects that we can get into with

00:35:35.000 the ban itself if you like but um go ahead sorry i wanted to ask you with you know 200 well nearly

00:35:43.320 231 000 people signing that last e-petition sponsored by michelle rempel and then with

00:35:49.880 5 000 i would suggest 5 000 plus people on parliament hill i mean for me i stood there and i

00:35:56.680 filmed everybody coming off the square 15 minutes to get everybody off the square people flying from

00:36:01.000 all over the country do you think that the momentum is shifting because i know for probably the last

00:36:05.880 15 or 20 years the gun rights community they were there um but they sort of had a friend in stephen

00:36:14.360 harper when harper was in charge and you know he did kill the gun registry but they were kind of quiet

00:36:22.520 because you know we do still have a culture of confiscation if you talk about the guns you have

00:36:28.200 then the government knows the guns you have and you know confiscations have happened in the past

00:36:32.920 um they do arbitrarily just reclassify things overnight the cz 858 is a good recent example of

00:36:40.280 that um do you think that there's a cultural change now where canadian gunners are saying like

00:36:46.120 i have to speak up now and i have to be loud i have to be proud uh no more of this silence do you think

00:36:53.320 that that's happening that's kind of the sense that i'm getting yeah um well the thing the thing with

00:37:01.400 the harper government is yeah he he he rolled back the the registry that nobody was using um but they

00:37:11.960 actually was pretty funny because i remember my mom and my dad were fighting about it he's like i'm

00:37:16.280 not registering nothing and i think my mom she was scared that the police were going to come and

00:37:22.840 whatever and she went out and registered a bunch of his guns i can't even remember what happened

00:37:26.680 um but well that's why they're divorced now that's correct yeah but um at the end of the day

00:37:37.560 you know i think for me with harper he just didn't go go far enough he left it as in this kind of an

00:37:45.000 ambiguous thing and i recall there was a vote i think it was at the 2013 uh leadership conference to to

00:37:54.280 maybe start doing something you know a rewrite of the firearms act or something and it it almost

00:37:59.000 passed it was it was very close but it didn't go through and then uh you know that's what happens

00:38:06.120 now with with with the left if you give them any sort of opening any sort of precedent um they are

00:38:14.040 gonna just come come for every single thing they can and then go way past you know equality or whatever

00:38:19.960 they're gonna go to entitlement and then intolerance so moving forward now i think gun owners we are

00:38:27.480 much more aware that a more permanent solution is required that it will maintain constant or will

00:38:35.320 sorry it will require constant maintenance of our our rights of our message um and that standing around

00:38:43.960 hoping that you know the stephen harper's or aaron o'toole's of the world are going to save you

00:38:48.920 probably not a good idea you gotta you gotta get out there and make it clear to all political parties

00:38:54.760 that if you're going to mess with guns then you're going to probably suffer some political consequences

00:39:01.240 and i would suggest the singular best way for every gun owner out there to combat this problem

00:39:06.360 is to get more people involved in firearms if all of us just get one new person licensed this yard

00:39:13.640 this year introduce them to this wonderful sport our numbers double and we will almost be 10

00:39:18.760 percent of the population that is too large of a demographic for any political party to ignore

00:39:24.360 and uh particularly in ontario you know i was thinking about i'm like i could get well i have

00:39:31.080 i've gotten lots of people there are pal up here in the yukon but at the end of the day we're only one

00:39:36.120 seat right so it doesn't doesn't help that much but in the gta you guys if you start getting kids and

00:39:44.200 particularly women into shooting stuff like they'll they'll be hooked instantly and then all

00:39:49.400 of a sudden you got a whole whack of people right in the heart of uh of the districts that decide the

00:39:55.960 electoral outcome more or less of the country it's not not a good good idea for anyone they'll just be

00:40:02.120 like yeah we'll just leave it alone right so get more people involved get online there's a lot of

00:40:09.480 like one thing i'm really proud of these days with the gun community is it like if you look especially

00:40:15.640 on twitter you'll see like some anti-gun guy or girl will come along and be like blah blah blah blah

00:40:21.880 blah you're crazy why don't you move to the united states and within seconds within seconds there'll be

00:40:28.360 like five accounts saying well no no that's not how the laws are here and and this is that and

00:40:34.200 that's a really extreme attitude you know like we have the facts like it's like i go there i i'm like

00:40:41.080 oh geez i better say something and then i look too late somebody's already responded like they're

00:40:45.480 they're all over it so um and these are just they're folks like me and you they're just out there

00:40:52.200 trying to to get the truth out because these people have been so misinformed

00:40:55.800 yeah i think we are a community of normals um i i wanted to give you a chance because i like i just

00:41:05.160 said off camera i could probably talk to you all day and i know that you have stuff to do and i have

00:41:08.760 stuff to do um but i want to give you a chance to tell uh maybe some of the people who you are kind

00:41:14.920 of new to how they can find you and more importantly how they can continue to support the work that you're

00:41:20.520 doing out there uh fighting for freedom fighting for property rights and fighting for gun owners

00:41:26.520 like me families like mine um well i just i'm mainly on twitter but i got a youtube channel i'm trying

00:41:33.400 actually that's how people can help if they can follow me follow me on youtube because i i can't seem

00:41:38.280 to get as many followers on there um as i can on twitter and i do have a facebook too but my facebook is more

00:41:44.520 i just sort of put stuff that's on my twitter and my youtube i just put it there so if you could give

00:41:49.800 me a follow it's yukon strong on just look up yukon strong on social media you'll find me doesn't

00:41:55.880 matter which one and um i also have a podcast i'm starting i keep i keep having life altering

00:42:04.120 delays that are screwing me up i have actually i have an episode right now that i haven't released

00:42:08.600 in like a month i'm just sitting on it because i've been so lazy to edit it with all this other stuff but

00:42:13.160 um yeah maybe check out my podcast and keep your eyes peeled on the horizon because eventually

00:42:20.040 um i'm going to be releasing a just a small tv series i don't know if it's going to go on tv but

00:42:27.240 i'll for sure release it online and uh it's going to have really great content uh for you know the

00:42:34.920 hunting community for the firearms community and it's going to give everyone a glimpse into my real

00:42:39.480 world i've showed a few people now and they're just blown away they're really really think it's

00:42:44.040 great and um i can't wait for that it's going to be a while yet but um you know as for doing what

00:42:53.320 every person can do just listen engage don't be one of the people saying oh i'm gonna let someone else

00:43:01.400 handle it like i have a suspicion that the ccfr is going to have another integrity march here

00:43:06.680 and this the next one will be a big one because now people say okay it was a lot of fun it was

00:43:11.640 really positive and a whole whack of people showed up and i wish i came like that's that's where a lot

00:43:16.680 of people are at right now the comments that i'm reading so um i i hope they do it not not right away

00:43:24.360 but maybe like early next summer and that would be huge like i think we'll get double triple the

00:43:30.600 turnout probably is is very realistic so um be be willing to to stand up and you can go watch on my

00:43:39.240 youtube channel i made a video of the the march it was guys it was really a lot of fun like all the

00:43:45.320 the protesting stuff aside it was so cool to meet so many awesome people and i just keep hearing that

00:43:50.840 you've been saying that andrew lawton says that tracy wilson rod they all say it you know just to

00:43:57.080 finally meet so many good canadians and prove definitively that there are good canadians there

00:44:05.160 the people who who really represent i think the the what what canada is about from all all creeds

00:44:13.800 all colors were there children women you know everyone is welcome do not worry about you know

00:44:20.120 any sort of intimidation or anything whatsoever the people will just be giving you hugs the the minute

00:44:25.560 you arrive we're a very welcoming group well dj i want to thank you for coming on the show today and

00:44:33.240 i want to ask you to please come back on the show again very very soon um and please let me know when

00:44:39.960 your little tv show goes live because i'm kind of excited about that just as as an avid outdoor show

00:44:46.360 watcher um and uh i think our people would really like to see um you have some great success with that

00:44:53.560 so thank you again for coming on the show thank you it was really awesome to be here sheila thanks

00:45:06.280 vj is such a great calm reasonable spokesperson for the pro firearms rights movement in canada

00:45:14.280 exactly the kind of person we need up front and the ccfr well they're taking the government to court to

00:45:20.200 fight the gun ban and i wish them the very best of luck and as a side note our law enforcement

00:45:26.600 officers many of whom are firearms enthusiasts themselves are already stretched thin they're

00:45:31.880 under attack from social justice warriors on one side and gangs on the other our cops should not be put

00:45:39.000 in this new unwarranted adversarial position with their sports shooting friends and neighbors when most

00:45:46.120 police officers i know got into policing to put the actual bad guys in jail well everyone that's

00:45:52.440 the show for tonight thank you so much as always for tuning in i'll see everybody back here at the

00:45:57.480 same time in the same place next weekend remember don't let the government tell you that you've had too much

00:46:03.560 you've had too much to think

Rebel News Podcast - September 17, 2020

Yukon Strong： Guest DJ Sumanik on gun rights in Canada

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