Alex Jones, perhaps more than any guest we ve ever had, comes with baggage. There are many of you that will hear the name Alex Jones and just think, Sandy Hook, conspiracy theorist, lunatic. Well, I invite you to take a different perspective. Alex Jones is a brilliant man. He's a brilliant host and a brilliant writer, and he's an extraordinary person to talk to. I've never had a conversation quite like it, and I believe you're going to love it. This is a conversation you won't want to miss. In this episode, we talk about Alex's journey, how he got started in the world, and why he thinks he might be mentally ill. We talk about predictions that he's made that have come true, and how he's been targeted by the establishment. And we ask if he's ever thought about ending his own life, and if he s ever wondered if he may be a victim of mental illness. Click here to watch the full episode here. You're a Good Boy, Let's See The Future! brought to you by You're Gonna See the Future? - You're A Good Boy? - by You'll See The Past - You Can't Miss It? by You've Never Seen The Future? - You'll Never Miss It?! in this video, join us on Locals by pressing the red button to become a supporter of These Conversations by pressing "UP" on our streaming channel. You'll get access to a variety of advanced access options, including advanced access to advanced interviews, access to our most listened to episodes, and access to the most influential podcasts, and much more! You won't Want to miss it? Click here for a chance to be included in the next batch of conversations that we stream live on the next generation of conversations streaming live on our mainstreaming platform, You'll Have Everything You Need to know about the next great renaissance? and more. - click here for more like this conversation LIVE on the Conversation With The Conversation With Me? You'll never miss an opportunity to be part of It's a conversation that's going to be happening! - That's a thing you'll never be better than that? . - And more than you'll get to see the next Great Renaissance, right here, so don't miss it! (Coming soon, coming soon, so do not miss it, so go watch it.
00:02:34.000Because what I want you to consider is that Alex Jones was one of the first people in this space, one of the first people that you'd have heard publicly saying there's a globalist agenda, you can't trust the establishment.
00:02:44.000Like, So many of Alex Jones' ideas have entered into the mainstream.
00:02:56.000He's the author of a new book called The Great Awakening, Defeating the Globalists and Launching the Next Great Renaissance.
00:03:02.000The link for that is in the description.
00:03:03.000We talk about predictions that Alex has made that have come true and you'll be surprised by that.
00:03:09.000We talk as well about independent voices being targeted like Joe Rogan, Alex himself, Tucker and obviously myself.
00:03:16.000We talk about predictive dreams, prophecies, mysticism, spirituality, globalist agenda, black rock, vanguard, current problems and spiritual solutions.
00:03:24.000I ask Alex if he's ever thought about ending his own life and if he's ever wondered if he's mentally ill.
00:03:29.000God, love, the devil, heaven, hell, Have a look at just a few of the highlights.
00:03:34.0001776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms.
00:03:49.000I wonder if you ever feel fracture and crisis within yourself.
00:04:01.000I wonder if you've ever felt hopeless and desperate.
00:04:05.000God touched me and said, you really want to be evil?
00:04:08.000And I had a lot of really intense nightmares and just a feeling of being alone.
00:05:15.000There is such a strong will to shut down dissent.
00:05:17.000You see it because we have nothing to hide.
00:05:20.000Move your angle, relax your perspective, pull back, open your mind.
00:05:24.000I wonder if you've ever been concerned that you are mentally ill.
00:05:32.000We planned to have 15 minutes at the top of this conversation that we'd be able to stream everywhere, but this is Alex Jones and it's just impossible.
00:05:39.000In this conversation, you'll see Alex Jones like you've never seen him before.
00:05:44.000This is a conversation you do not want to miss.
00:05:47.000These conversations we stream live, so if you want to become a supporter of our channel, join us on Locals by pressing the red button.
00:05:53.000You get access to a variety of things, including advanced interviews like this.
00:05:57.000Now, As I say, none of this could be put on YouTube.
00:06:00.000So if you want to see the conversation with Alex, please join us over on Rumble now.
00:06:20.000Russell, it's amazing to be here with you.
00:06:21.000The first time we talked was 11 years ago, and I got a chance to meet you here in Austin, and wow, has the world changed.
00:06:27.000And I wish that I wasn't a trailblazer and a maverick.
00:06:31.000I wish that when I was reading Club of Rome and UN Global Government Rockefeller Foundation plans 29 years ago when I first got on air, I wish that it wouldn't have all come true.
00:06:42.000And so a lot of people, you know, saw me as a pessimist or very negative or a science fiction writer.
00:06:48.000But if you go back to what I said 25 years ago, 10 years ago, 5 years ago, it's unfortunately
00:06:53.000all come true because there really is a global corporate black rock state street vanguard
00:07:00.000ruling elite that has over 80% of the wealth of the world.
00:07:11.000So they're the dystopics pushing this and doing this.
00:07:15.000They're the ones that have decided they want all the wealth and really life for themselves.
00:07:19.000And they want to use us as the guinea pigs as they try to get their holy grail, which
00:07:26.000is life-assisted technology and immortality.
00:07:29.000That's why so many of their top people at the World Economic Forum have said,
00:07:34.000That the future is not human and that we're basically useless eaters.
00:07:38.000So this is a very Hitlerian stuff coming out of the ruling elite, but they promise to depopulate every group, everybody, except for the chosen few that go into the future as this new super sapien that's reportedly going to biomechanically merge with machines and become a demigod.
00:07:56.000Now, Alex, before we get into your broader perspectives, because I'm fascinated and excited to speak to you about that, it's almost an Alex Jones meme.
00:08:07.000Sort of like the number of times Alex Jones has been right.
00:08:10.000Now, I'd like to sort of just talk about, just briefly sketch out the Three to five of the clearest examples of where you've said there's a financial elite, there's a global establishment with an agenda that is transcendent of democracy.
00:08:24.000All ideas that you were at the very forefront of.
00:08:26.000And I also want to ask you this, because it's a question I consider myself a lot.
00:08:32.000I know that you have a massive audience of people that believe in you.
00:08:35.000Similarly, there are people that will say, no, Alex Jones, you know, Sandy Hook, crisis actors, and will never be open to you.
00:08:44.000Sometimes when I'm talking, I think, I know there's people that believe in me and no matter how I'm attacked by the establishment, No matter what tactics they deploy, they'll say, Russell Brand has always spoken out against power, not always, but certainly in the last, you know, 5, 10, 15 years or whatever.
00:08:58.000There's no way that the attacks on Russell Brand are not connected to those, to his stance on, say, Big Pharma, the pandemic, the military-industrial complex.
00:09:07.000But sometimes I think, what do we do about the people that hear the name Alex Jones and then just think, oh, you know, Sandy Hook, billion dollars.
00:09:15.000So in order to sort of almost simultaneously address the idea of detractors and to give us a sort of a platform to start on with some degree of confidence, bearing in mind we're still on YouTube at this point, Can you give us, because I know that, you know, the same is true of many of the people that I consider you to be like an evangelist and a shaman, actually.
00:09:32.000That you're a peripheral seer, and like anyone who operates in liminal spaces, there's going to be craziness.
00:09:40.000I can't imagine it's very easy to be you.
00:09:42.000I know you feel the world very strongly.
00:09:44.000I know you have a good deal of passion and intensity in you, and I identify.
00:09:49.000But just to start us off in a place where, you know, because it's so easy to proselytise and for you to evangelise, can we start off with a few examples of, look, 20 years ago, I told you this.
00:10:42.000So they went back over my timeline and then dredged up a few things I said.
00:10:47.000Out of context, and that had PR firms, they now admit, announced that I was doing things I never did or never said out of context, and then sued me, and then the judges in both jurisdictions found me guilty, just like Trump's been found guilty already by the judge, no jury, in his New York fraud trial.
00:11:11.000So we now know from the congressional weaponization hearings that it was the Justice Department and the CIA, even when Trump was in office, he wasn't running a lot of things, that were targeting me, the same folks that targeted Julian Assange.
00:11:24.000And thank God I'm not in as bad a position as he is.
00:11:27.000He is really the guy we should all be praying for and supporting with the hell he's gone through.
00:11:32.000So I see it as blessed that I'm not in solitary confinement for seven, eight, nine years like him.
00:11:37.000But now in hindsight, All of that was synthetic.
00:12:46.000Yes, I have had events where I can put the material together and then predict what's going to happen in the future.
00:12:51.000We're all psychic to a certain extent.
00:12:53.000We're all part of the group collective.
00:12:56.000I have had dreams that have come true.
00:12:59.000I've also had a sixth sense about the data I saw and when I thought they were going to pull something.
00:13:04.000But we all have that intuition, men, women, you name it.
00:13:07.000But specifically, so much of what I predicted was in MIT white papers and things, like I was reading about the Tabistock Institute in the 70s and 80s developing the transgender program to make sterilization fashionable and cool, particularly of all the autistic children and things that they knew that their program was going to be producing.
00:13:28.000So it wasn't that I magically looked into a crystal ball and said decades ago, the chemicals in the food and water are reducing our fertility and bending the brain cells in utero of brain development.
00:13:40.000Where you're not really a male or a female, you're more hermaphroditic, and not in the genitals, but in the brain structure that is way more important than what genitals you have.
00:13:49.000So I don't blame people that are biologically a male, but feel like they're a female, because they actually are now leaning towards being more female than male.
00:14:50.000And then I was seeing them on the news saying terrorists are about to strike.
00:14:55.000When they strike, you give your rights up.
00:14:57.000They were showing bin Laden on TV saying he's about to get you.
00:15:02.000And then, yes, I've never really told this before, I began to have a recurring dream in March of 2021 of the World Trade Centers on fire and collapsing.
00:15:15.000And so, but I also then started seeing, once I had the dreams, I started seeing them late.
00:15:21.000They're saying Bin Laden's about to attack.
00:15:23.000We knew from the FBI informant, Ahmad Salam, who also worked for the CIA, that the feds had cooked the bomb, trained the driver, let them attack the World Trade Center in 1992.
00:15:32.000So I was able to put together that that was going to be their next target.
00:15:36.000And so I did dozens of shows that they tried to remove off the internet, but you can still find large clips of it, where I said, call the White House.
00:15:42.000I put the number up, and I said, they're going to blow up the World Trade Center, and they're going to blame Ben Laden and they're going to invade Afghanistan.
00:15:51.000Now, simultaneously, and I've since talked to Chris Carter before and he was going to come on the show, but that never happened.
00:15:57.000The career of the X-Files, he ended up reaching out to me and he also gave interviews and said, you know, Alex Jones is writing stuff in 2016.
00:16:07.000And he said that new X-Files they put out, you know, the talk show host character was me.
00:16:13.000The point is, this is the influence, not about me, but it's about the story.
00:16:16.000He then said, I really like Alex Jones because he was talking about they're going to build the World Trade Center.
00:16:22.000He said, I was approached by the CIA in early 2000 on the lone gunman spinoff of the X-Files.
00:16:32.000And I was asked to make a show Where a rogue group of the government hijacks a jumbo jet by remote control to blame it on a Middle Eastern boogeyman to fly it into the World Trade Center to then bring in worldwide martial law and the beginning of the Holy War.
00:16:51.000And so it's not just Alex Jones having dreams about this and then seeing the evidence and saying it.
00:16:58.000I don't have these a lot anymore, but when I was a little kid, I had them a lot.
00:17:02.000And then by the time I was a teenager, I had them a few times.
00:17:04.000And I've had them a few times since then, like with the 9-11.
00:17:07.000But sometimes it's a nonsensical thing about Something that's going to happen and then it happens a year later and you've even written it down and it happens.
00:17:18.000But when I have these dreams where I guess you fold space, fold time, go into the future, which our higher consciousness can do interdimensionally.
00:17:24.000We're in the third dimension, but our souls are obviously projecting up higher.
00:17:28.000That's been mathematically, scientifically proven now.
00:17:30.000So we get to have a window into at least potential futures.
00:17:33.000It's kind of a Frank Herbert Dune situation.
00:17:36.000But when I would have these dreams, I would also wake up very sweaty and vomit And just absolutely just be blown away with the worst headache you can imagine.
00:17:46.000And I don't even regularly have headaches.
00:17:47.000It would just be when I would have these dreams.
00:17:50.000And so that's my big psychic event that's also been proven by the fact I came out and called it.
00:17:57.000But then, basically, the psychic ability just helps you already see the data points.
00:18:03.000And then I guess your subconscious mind, you can even say then, programs what you call an AI, but a human artificial intelligence, advanced intelligence, interfacing with the universe, to then take you to the next level.
00:18:29.000I mean, there's literally been hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of these, but that wasn't a dream or an event.
00:18:35.000That was me studying all the data and the background and intel.
00:18:40.000And I basically, I mean, I predicted they were going to come after the food.
00:18:44.000I predicted how they were going to break up the families, how they were going to finance race war.
00:18:49.000But 99% of it is just hidden in plain view and reading source documents.
00:18:55.000I mean, there's just many other examples.
00:18:57.000There are a lot of examples there, and what I can tell even from speaking with you today, Alex, is that you move between demonstrable empirical facts like, you know, phthalates in the water and the increase of phthalates in the water are evidently affecting male fertility.
00:19:19.000You're obviously like so straight away Alex moving to such like complex areas of discussion using and also the way that you approach reality is a kind of rare in a let's say in a kind of a rationalist materialist world Now, like, you know, when you say about sort of predictive dreams and prophecy and mysticism, most cultures make allowances for that and the CIA utilize people with psychic capacities and psychic abilities.
00:19:49.000These kind of phenomena are areas of exploration.
00:19:53.000So I don't think that the attempt to discredit you is because you are a person in a global culture Occupies a role that we would probably recognize more easily in smaller tribalized culture, i.e.
00:20:07.000the mystic, the shaman, the evangelist.
00:20:11.000What I think is complex is that our social and cultural systems don't afford even that role anymore.
00:20:18.000God, I've had enough cause lately to think about witch hunts and Salem and the way that mysticism, mystics and people that speak out and people that bring information out from the Edgelands into the mainstream have been historically persecuted.
00:20:32.000Sometimes I wonder what people think they are talking about when the idea of a witch hunt is discussed.
00:20:38.000You know, that people Seem to be able to produce evidence, seem to be able to conjure up legitimization for unpersoning, persecuting, shutting people down.
00:20:48.000It's very curious that those people generally are outspoken critics of the establishment.
00:20:54.000And the more I speak to you, the more I realize that you have inaugurated a particular cultural role.
00:21:00.000You, and I would say in particular David Icke, both of whom have been subject to incredible Incredible attacks and incredible slurs and it's difficult not to say that that would be predicated on and driven by the desire to shut down the things you're saying rather than at what we're always offered, a desire to protect.
00:21:18.000So with what you said about 9-11, Are you ever tempted, when it comes to stuff like the phthalates in the water, or a subject like 9-11, to remain within what is empirical and demonstrable?
00:21:31.000Or is that just not the way you see stuff?
00:21:34.000Because Alex, you know, it's recently been discussed that the CIA have demonstrable connections with some of the hijackers.
00:21:42.000Now, no, the law C702 is being perpetuated even as we speak, using Hamas's attacks on Israel to legitimize ongoing surveillance measures that Snowden revealed.
00:21:57.000Do you ever feel like you could Curtail and measure the way that you communicate, that it would be possible that more people would be brought along if you were able to say, look, here's what I can prove, this is what I sense, this is what I intuit.
00:22:14.000The mystical component of human beings has been shut down for a long time.
00:22:19.000Demystifying humanity in our rationalist world at the expense of the ability to emotionally communicate, or to transcend, or to look for new solutions.
00:22:27.000And believe me, I agree with you that we're at an apocalyptic, precipitous moment now.
00:24:03.000As you mentioned, the CIA, MI6, OSS before that, Hitler and his Gestapo, the Russian czars, they were all obsessed with mysticism, they were all obsessed with the occult.
00:24:17.000And they put massive amounts of money into scientists trying to quantify what was causing it, what was doing it, because it's a real phenomenon.
00:24:28.000There's also a lot of charlatans around it, but it's simply things, as David Icke says, not in the light spectrum.
00:24:34.000Now with the quantum mechanics and with all of the observations they've done, where if you observe a neutron, it won't jump You know, through a solid block of lead, but if you don't observe it, it will.
00:24:48.000That there are a lot of laws to the universe, and so the CIA has spent hundreds of billions of dollars, conservatively, over the last 70 years or so, because they were founded in 1947, with mind wars, and with psychic soldiers, and with all of that.
00:25:06.000And what they found was, and the Russians found this too, it's very real, But they can't control it, and so they'd rather chemicalize and dumb down and poison the public to lower consciousness.
00:25:19.000So that they don't have to deal with that wild card.
00:25:27.000And at the end of the day, when I analyze stuff, then I just use, you call it the conscious with the subconscious and the unconscious, to just go with what is my gut level then of where this is going.
00:25:39.000And I'm actually clear with the listeners and the viewers that This is fact.
00:25:59.000And I don't even spend a lot of my time on the gut and all of that.
00:26:05.000What they do is, when you're on air three, four, five hours a day, I'll be on the air today seven hours, doing my show, your show, other shows.
00:26:27.000Jonathan Swift, the famous essayist, that they wouldn't feed the Irish during the famines.
00:26:32.000We said, well, why don't we just have the Irish sell their babies to the meat markets?
00:26:36.000I said, this is an analogy Or a warning, does the left, or people going along with the collapse of civilization, and this post-industrial world that they admit they're building, or setting up right now, this great reset,
00:26:54.000That it'll be like Viggo Mortensen's The Road, or it will be something very close to that, and that those of us that know how to survive will literally have to end up eating your ass.
00:27:05.000Well, they just said Jones has total meltdown, goes completely crazy, and says that he's going to eat his neighbors.
00:27:26.000I knew they were going to take what I did and put it out shockingly.
00:27:29.000And I was being massively censored, so I had to have a way to get people back to the show to actually hear me talk about, hey, they're cutting fertilizer production, they're cutting natural gas and fuel, they're cutting water supplies off around the world, blocking groups that want to put water supplies into Africa, wells and things, like we're now seeing.
00:27:46.000They're now going after the guy that drilled 100 wells, when the UN hasn't done that in 10 years, has gotten millions of dollars, because they don't want people actually being helped.
00:27:55.000In the past, I really didn't think about how I was coming off.
00:28:14.000I've had a huge show for like 23, 25 years.
00:28:15.000I mean, I've been reaching millions of people a day for 25 years.
00:28:20.000And so the cultural effect's been massive.
00:28:22.000And I didn't realize for the last six, seven, eight years how big an effect it was.
00:28:25.000So like Spider-Man says, or his uncle says, with great power comes great responsibility.
00:28:30.000But no, nothing was calculated, except I knew that if I was, I was reading globalist documents before I even got on air, when I was in college and high school before that.
00:28:39.000And I was reading stuff they wrote in the 50s and 60s that I saw that had become reality by the 80s.
00:28:44.000And I saw things they wrote in the 80s that was coming true in the 90s.
00:28:49.000And so when I was reading all these UN documents and books and things about, let's put fluoride in the water to reduce fertility and lower IQ, that'll make it more manageable.
00:29:00.000Major publications, major books that top White House science czars wrote decades ago.
00:29:11.000So I knew that, well, if they've gotten all this done, and if what they said they would do decades ago they got done, well, now they say they're going to start cutting off the resources and by 2020 launch Agenda 2030.
00:29:23.000When I saw they got everything done that they talked about at the Rio de Janeiro Accords in 1992 for Agenda 21, That they had almost all that done.
00:29:32.000I went, whoa, they say by 2030 they want a collapse in industrial society and then by 2045 a 90% reduction in human population.
00:29:43.000So I'm watching the trajectory of what they've said and what they've done and what their plan is.
00:30:06.000I want to try to launch a great awakening to counter their great reset that is the war for the world, because this is Hitler 10.0 is what we're facing.
00:30:18.000Where they deindustrialize, break up families, drug and dumb down, weaponize the culture, atomize society, isolate people, and then create a eugenics, death cult, suicide, euthanasia cult.
00:30:33.000I mean, this is basically THX 1138 meets Soylent Green meets 1984.
00:30:39.000We've all seen those Venn diagrams where it has all the dystopic books, Fahrenheit and And Brave New World, and 1984, and V for Vendetta, and then at the middle of it, it says, you are here.
00:30:56.000And so that is literally what the globalists are doing.
00:30:59.000In fact, I would call them the transhumanist dystopians, because they want to build a dystopia for us so bad, And make us hate ourselves and make us think we're killing the earth, that we commit internal suicide and cut off our life force and invert our life force to be successful and strong and stewards of the earth and build a beautiful planet and go off planet and just do incredible things.
00:32:42.000And then God says, yes, and now you will oversee with me all of the lower levels that are growing up towards us in our garden, and you will be able to see the endless beauty and competition and freedom.
00:32:54.000But the one thing you may say is a sin, God says, and it's not.
00:32:58.000God says, I've done this, but the one thing I feel a little guilty about, this is God's only guilt, This omnipresent, all-powerful thing is that I want to experience the universe through other sentient beings that have the seed of the universe in them, as Gandhi talked about.
00:33:13.000You are the potential little-g God, and I want to not be alone, and I want to experience free will.
00:33:20.000But because we give people free will, and other creatures free will, Then they have a potential to be destructive and try to build their own universes and break away from us, and it basically never works.
00:33:30.000Look at these billions of other failures that I thought they might make something better.
00:33:41.000And so help me discover where we came from and also understand we've created this multi-layer system so that even though creatures fail and fall into lower dimensions and fall into these other realms, they actually do, in endless infinities, have a chance to basically percolate back up and be given redemption.
00:34:00.000And I'll be attacked by classical Christians for that, but that's what I've been shown by God.
00:34:04.000And I don't want to go back down and come back up.
00:34:07.000I want to go up, and I want to stay up, and I want to go all the way to the top.
00:34:10.000I want to merge with God at the 12th dimension.
00:34:12.000But I've got to be sanctified, purified, and ready for that.
00:34:15.000And the 3rd dimension is the main launch base to all the other levels.
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00:35:10.000Alex, it's very profound and beautiful to listen to you.
00:35:14.000I'm trying to track my numerous questions, even ones I've already asked.
00:35:18.000And as I listen to you, I see that what you intuitively, organically, and indeed, after 30 years of broadcasting, professionally do, is you're able to trust yourself and communicate on a good many levels. When you describe that
00:35:58.000show, we continually talk about a subtle agenda which is demonstrable through looking at financial
00:36:05.000activity and military activity and the activity of unelected three-letter acronym organisations
00:36:14.000To create centralized authority, and as you have said so eloquently, to dumb down the consciousness of ordinary people.
00:36:21.000When I look at the scale and the scope of the problem that we are facing, it seems plain that what's going to be required is a kind of spiritual energization.
00:36:32.000That whether you consider yourself to be a person on the radical left, say, should we use the terms of our time, believing in compassion, progressivism, Or if you're a cultural conservative person believing individual freedom and traditional Christian or Islamic values or Judaic values.
00:36:50.000It seems that in order to move beyond the level that we're at now, just in terms of the framing of our current set of crises, And in order to inspire change and indeed to galvanise people, even if you look at it only in terms of what's demonstrably true, sets of interests that were observable during the pandemic period that benefited from being able to regulate a population, encourage and in some cases mandate a population to take experimental medications, censor and shut down conversation and communication including the delegitimisation of demonstrably
00:37:28.000It's clear that what we need as a population is a sort of almost a new resource.
00:37:33.000So when you describe layers of consciousness and what sound to me like shamanic experiences of different levels of reality, which are, you know, these kind of visions are in the Old Testament, they're in the Quran, they're in even the writings of Steiner, Rudolf Steiner, These are kind of ideas in Aztec cults and Mayan cults and Egyptian mythology.
00:37:57.000It's an omnipresent archetype and vision and you're absolutely right.
00:38:02.000And I suppose where I'm getting to is it's very difficult because if you discredit the idea of somehow conflating mysticism with anti-establishment politics, That it's something that's easy to condemn because it involves language that is by its nature colourful and often beyond rationality.
00:38:21.000But beyond rationality is not the same as irrational.
00:38:25.000And what I think is really challenging in this space is to say, wow, on one level This relates to the incarceration of Julian Assange and the exiling of Edward Snowden.
00:38:35.000It relates to a forever war mentality.
00:38:42.000It relates to true power being inaccessible to ordinary people.
00:38:45.000And as you said at the beginning of our conversation, the astonishing power of groups like BlackRock, Vanguard, etc.
00:38:52.000Also, I know that where you see this is through an occultist lens also.
00:38:59.000Layers of reality, the limitations of the senses.
00:39:02.000You cited briefly, and I know a lot of people that loathe this kind of stuff when people talk about double slit and quantum physics in a mystical way.
00:39:09.000I know that angers people, but really what we're experiencing is our models of reality are breaking down.
00:39:27.000I mean, that's what all science is based on, and it all goes back to the occult.
00:39:32.000All occult means is hidden, and so we're looking for the hidden.
00:39:35.000We're trying to actually illuminate people, and then you have the classic Illuminati that's claiming it's trying to illuminate, but it's actually trying to block it.
00:39:42.000But you boiled down my whole rant in 30 seconds earlier perfectly.
00:39:46.000The Luciferian energy says, I'm going to use all this divine and carve out my own thing, and then basically create my own universe with my own followers, but then I've got to limit their free will.
00:39:57.000Whereas God says, you all get free will, but then God says, is it bad that I gave people free will?
00:40:03.000Because that actually then allowed a lot of evil to take place.
00:40:06.000And that's what the Satanist or Luciferian will always say.
00:40:08.000Your God allows all these bad things to happen.
00:40:11.000Well, that's what happens when you allow freedom.
00:40:14.000But then the universe would be a dead, empty thing, or I guess it was just a bunch of plants growing on it, or things that don't have higher consciousness, at least on the surface, if God did not give us this.
00:40:28.000The science we have today, if you showed an ancient Greek or Egyptian, they would say we were gods.
00:40:42.000People envisioned a lot, because there was something in the space-time continuum that we knew was already real because it was a potentiality.
00:40:51.000Also, the universe, as we know, is a lot of things, but it's also a loop, or a figure eight, and it's always coming back.
00:40:57.000So there's a psychic wavelength from the future bouncing back at us now, and that's why we have such a feeling of dread, is because we've been on the wrong path.
00:41:07.000In fact, I wrote some notes before I came on.
00:41:08.000I had no idea you would go there, but the first thing I wanted to say is we are at the end of an age And the system knows that, and they know currently the trajectory is humanity freeing itself.
00:41:22.000That's why they're trying to create an end of history now.
00:41:25.000They're trying to manifest all this Armageddon stuff to preempt what they think is coming so they can control it.
00:42:14.000They want to steal the future and they're not going to get away with it.
00:42:16.000They're going to hurt a lot of people.
00:42:19.000And they're going to commit a lot of crimes.
00:42:21.000But in the end, their destruction will be their own, because they will be cut off from God.
00:42:28.000And from what I've seen and read and studied and know, hell is not some description of burning fire.
00:42:34.000It's being cut off from the real universe, the real multiverse.
00:42:39.000And you don't want to be cut off from that.
00:42:40.000And if you make the decision, To go create your own system, and you decide not, and I get with the Luciferians, well that's the slave master, and okay, well the slave master gave you total freedom to go build your own thing.
00:42:52.000And then once you build it, you just built hell.
00:42:58.000I want to ask you a few basic kind of, like, I know you can answer questions simultaneously, so let me just tell you what comes to me when I'm listening.
00:43:08.000I feel like you have suffered a lot and I feel that you have a lot of power in you and I wonder how you align the necessity for surrender in order that we may convey a great ever-present, omnipresent, omniscient wisdom accessible to all of us if we are clear with your own rather robust individualism.
00:43:28.000I wonder if you ever feel fracture and crisis within yourself.
00:43:32.000I wonder if even under attack you've ever thought about ending your own life.
00:43:36.000I wonder if you've ever been concerned that you are mentally ill.
00:43:40.000I wonder if you've ever felt hopeless and desperate given the escalation of these crises and the way that you have been attacked.
00:44:40.000It has magnetic cones and rods in its little tiny brain that operate off the electromagnetic fields of the Earth, but they also have ancestral memory as well that's been passed on.
00:44:54.000And so their bodies are a third-dimensional manifestation of that spirit energy, and so that energy is even in them.
00:45:02.000That's how the ducks, the geese know how to do it.
00:45:04.000That's how hummingbirds can fly from Georgia all the way to Guatemala.
00:45:09.000Little bitty birds over the ocean, thousands of miles, and land in the same tree that they were born in, or the same tree that their parents We're born in, okay?
00:45:23.000All spiritualism is, is tuning into the fact that humans have massive amounts of cones and rods.
00:45:30.000The only other thing that has more of them is whales.
00:45:33.000I mean, you know, a dolphin's brain's way bigger than a human's, and they're incredible.
00:45:37.000And so you have to understand that we have all this.
00:45:41.000We're a transceiver, and the priest class has tried to get in front of this relationship with the universe and God, and then they create these dogmas to control people instead of going directly to God.
00:45:53.000And so that's what I'm trying to get at here.
00:45:56.000And so, you know, obviously there are seven deadly sins, but the Luciferian sin is pride.
00:46:04.000And you've been around the block, Russell, and I can tell that, and I can see when you were younger, I can see it in your eyes.
00:46:10.000When I was younger, I dialed into that Luciferian energy, the pride, the strength, the will to get any woman I wanted, kick anybody's ass, and I just turned it on like the Ring of Mordor.
00:46:20.000And I took that off when I was about 18.
00:46:23.000I only had it on for about four, five, six years.
00:46:26.000I wasn't a Satanist, but man, I attracted the Luciferians and all the rich people like, you know, Mazda Flame.
00:46:33.000And then I was able, basically God touched me and said, you really want to be evil?
00:46:38.000And I had a lot of really intense nightmares and just a feeling of being alone.
00:46:44.000And God said, you can have all this earthly power, but you're gonna be alone.
00:46:48.000Do you feel the Holy Spirit being removed?
00:47:22.000After I'd done like two hours on my AXS TV show, and I was in this restaurant, it was closing down, nobody was in there, I finished eating, I wasn't on drugs, wasn't drinking, and it was just like, the walls opened up, and it was this big energy, and it said, alright, I'm about to hit you with a major download on your mission, but this and that is gonna happen, and you're gonna go through a lot of pain to do it, but you're gonna help trigger the Great Awakening.
00:47:46.000And I've talked about this 20 years ago, okay?
00:47:48.000And then now look, I'm credited, and it's not me, it's God through the universe.
00:47:54.000I said 20 years ago on air when I was ready to talk about it, about seven years after it happened, I talked about it in great length for like hours on the show, how I was going to help, through our audience, trigger the Great Awakening that would then produce all these other incredible people who were asleep, who would be even more articulate than I was, and that that was going to be my mission.
00:48:15.000But then I had to be ready to be destroyed, probably killed, and I hate to prophesy that, but I had to be ready to be tortured, ready to be in prison, ready to be killed, if I wanted this mission.
00:48:27.000And then the dream started, the discernment started, the knowledge started, and I've had two or three other times where it's like you're brought in to be commissioned into another level of the military, and it's a spiritual event, and just like the devil psychically has you sign a contract, But God does it through free will and says, okay, here's the next mission.
00:49:06.000I was on a private plane they got us, and it was bad weather, and it was violently flying around, and, you know, the pilots were freaked out, and they had to not land.
00:49:17.000They had to go back, maybe find another airport, and I was totally calm, and my wife was totally calm, and when we landed, she said, what were you doing?
00:49:23.000I said, I was preparing if we died to ensure that my energy goes to God.
00:49:36.000I feel sorry for the pilots, but if I die, and I just focused, I'm going with you, I'm going with God, bio-condios, and of course we didn't die.
00:49:44.000But the pilots were like, totally freaked out when we landed.
00:49:47.000So, that's what we're talking about, and that's what it's all about.
00:49:54.000You know, I feel like one thing that perhaps would be an interesting way for us to continue our conversation is by acknowledging that we live in a materialist and rationalist culture that by its default nature excludes the possibility of the mystery, excludes the possibility of the cult except for where it might be helpful in controlling people.
00:50:16.000We come from, and for hundreds of thousands of years, and I'm sure by your reckoning much, much longer, we lived in cultures where the mystic was enshrined and still these words like saint, prophet, mystic, rishi, seer, druid, witch...
00:50:36.000This is a role that human beings have long required.
00:50:40.000We recognise, as you said, when discussing the great capacities of members of the insect species and ornithological wonders of hummingbirds, that there are layers of reality that animal species receive and understand.
00:50:54.000That there are types of information that are beyond our ability to receive because of the limitations of the senses.
00:51:01.000And there we have recourse to senses that are subtler, embedded, perhaps lost in history, perhaps Rinsed away with the fluoride and the 5G and the deadening screens and the bad food and the experimental vaccines, till in the end we live as lumpen bear apes.
00:51:23.000Similarly, our humanity itself is being stripped away.
00:51:26.000Our ability to laugh together, to Tease one another.
00:51:31.000Aspects of sexuality are maligned and condemned.
00:51:36.000I'm not talking about aspects of sexuality that are harmful.
00:51:40.000Of course, love and consent and generosity and kindness are unassailable, incontrovertible aspects of reality.
00:51:50.000Do you ever wonder, Alex, when you're in full flight in your evangelism, in your connection to God, whether or not you Because one of the things you'll be famous for, for people that are not devoted followers of Infowars and your various incarnations and evolutions, are the impassioned rants.
00:52:09.000We've all seen preachers rant like that, imams, even rabbis rant like that.
00:52:14.000It's accepted that mystics and seers will try to convey powerful messages with great zeal.
00:52:21.000Do you ever wonder whether or not enough is being done and This is not based on my personal experience with you where it's not a claim that I would make.
00:52:28.000To convey the love, the love, the necessity of love, the necessity of acceptance.
00:52:34.000Even what do you think it means in Christianity when it says stuff like, resist not evil and love thy enemy.
00:52:40.000Where do those sort of basic Christian edicts, for example, fit into the way we conduct this discourse when plainly we're at a pivotal moment of great, great attack?
00:52:52.000I mean, I dialed into Luciferian energy when I was about 12 to about 18.
00:52:56.000And I wasn't really conscious of it until I began to understand it and why all this was happening, because I was getting recruited interdimensionally by the other side to be, you know, a soldier of evil.
00:53:09.000And then when I pulled away from that, I began to understand what was happening, but I wasn't really reading in books.
00:53:19.000But instead of following Luciferian energy, I was following kind of my Earth Suit programming of I'm the man, I can get it done, and I'm going to be aggressive, and I'm going to overrun the bad guys.
00:53:30.000And so it was a barbaric energy with an intellectual message that was very attractive to a lot of people.
00:53:40.000Also scared the establishment, and there wasn't enough love.
00:53:43.000And I do think love is way more powerful than that, and that's the higher levels.
00:53:48.000And so I've tried to not blow up on air, to not go into those rants.
00:53:52.000I mean, you've seen some of them, because when you really get into the flesh, kind of, you can see some of the videos of me.
00:53:58.000Hadn't happened in about six, seven, eight years, but like, oh, a little demon just popped up!
00:54:01.000That's really scary looking, you know.
00:54:05.000You know, the guy that plays the Joker can't do it that good.
00:54:08.000And so, I mean, I realize that anytime my energy gets to a level that I look like Jack Nicholson in The Shining, that it's time to—and people see it and they go, oh, that's scary looking, and that's nothing.
00:54:25.000I don't have that big, boiling, aggressive fire I could turn on right now, because I've denied it.
00:54:31.000Because the more I move away, like, you know, a town I left, from Satan, the bigger the vistas get, the larger things get, the more love there is.
00:54:42.000And so yes, I'm moving away from hate towards love.
00:54:45.000And yes, in my trajectory, there was a lot more hate.
00:54:49.000I mean, I was always fighting, not because I hated the enemy, but because I loved people that were behind me, that I was protecting.
00:54:54.000But there was still a very big serving of hate.
00:54:58.000And now, I actually feel sorry for the globalists, and don't even hate them.
00:55:04.000I have to say, I love God, and I love love, and it's way more powerful.
00:55:09.000But sometimes I still, you know, kind of have a desire to just dip back into that hatred.
00:55:16.000Yeah, because sometimes when you feel like you're under attack, and indeed I can see that you have this very broad, let's call it interdimensional perspective of reality, where a spiritual war is being conducted subtly by demonic forces across a vast history, if you're holding that reality within your individual personality, it's going to cause a great deal of tension.
00:55:36.000Maybe I have a different kind of experience.
00:55:49.000Because, you know, again, so that we can keep a wide audience, those people that are interested in the occultist, esoteric aspects of this, That which is extra sensory and divine.
00:55:59.000Those that are looking at this from a spiritualist perspective, as well as those that like to stay in the rationalist domain, the interests of the military-industrial complex, a globalist agenda that's observable, the kind of things that were revealed during the pandemic period that I believe converted a lot of people.
00:56:13.000I will say that even when I look at it on that strata, Just, even if I look at this as just the financial interests of dominion, or terrestrial interests of earthly individuals, you know, we started off with the Black Rock and all that kind of stuff.
00:56:26.000You know, even when I just look at it on that level, I think, what are we going to do?
00:56:30.000There is so much power that can be asserted through legacy media.
00:56:36.000There is such a strong will to shut down dissent.
00:56:39.000Many people say, you know, I'm watching our chat now, like that, In a way, Alex Jones was not only the augur of a new kind of counter-cultural narrative that was beyond left and right definition, even though it was heavily condemned as being right-wing in the same way that lots of things are when they're anti-establishment, curiously, there was also a kind of a piloting of how do you un-person a prominent voice.
00:57:03.000Now, clearly you've got enough fire and brimstone and, as you described it, warming rage within you still to get you through.
00:57:30.000You know, you've written a book called The Great Awakening.
00:57:32.000We'll make sure that we properly promote that book.
00:57:34.000I wonder what toolkit you would advise anti-establishment, awakening, resistance movement people look at.
00:57:41.000What do you think about the books that you gotta look at, the films you gotta look at, to navigate this space without collapsing into despair?
00:57:49.000Because you look around the world now on a superficial level, Alex, You know, it's war here, war there, escalating war there, increased authority, legislation, censorship, shutdown, absolute lies.
00:57:59.000How are we going to tool ourselves up for the next phase?
00:58:02.000Yes, spiritually, but what cultural artifacts do you recommend people look at?
00:58:10.000I feel like you're falling in a hole sometimes too, particularly if I work too much and if I drink too much or any of those type of things that lowers your consciousness, lowers your brainwaves.
00:58:20.000We need to take off time with our families.
00:58:21.000We need to just take off time and read a book.
00:58:24.000We need to take off time and just watch a comedy show or something.
00:58:27.000It's very important to not do this all the time and to not let the magnitude of it destroy you and realize we're just one little tiny planet In the spiral arm of the Milky Way galaxy, but we can consciously envision the whole universe, and we can create concepts that can be manifested.
00:58:46.000And so we know we've been a little spark from God, and that is a magical thing, and be thankful for the gift of consciousness.
00:58:54.000Be thankful for the gift of being able to commune with your fellow humans and realize that the globalists, and others like them throughout history, are very frightened.
00:59:03.000They know this is real, and they want to try to control reality.
00:59:08.000And to do that, they want to control us.
00:59:09.000So they spend all their time and all their energy trying to dominate and dumb people down so that we won't be competition to them.
00:59:17.000just like a father grizzly bear gets the female bear pregnant, but most of the time tries
00:59:24.000and sometimes is successful to kill the male offspring.
00:59:28.000If it's a girl, he comes over and smells it, he doesn't kill it.
00:59:31.000But that's why mother bear has to leave her mate and run miles and miles and miles away and hide
00:59:37.000because particularly the father will smell his son and wanna kill it.
00:59:41.000And so this goes back obviously to the different, you know, Egyptian ethos and the rest of it.
00:59:47.000But they do not want us to be able to be part of the future and be able to make decisions.
00:59:56.000They wanna have the end of the history, it's what the globalists call it,
01:00:00.000where we turn into these brave new world automatons so they can play God over us when they're not God.
01:00:09.000And so they're pretending they're a joke.
01:00:11.000The big danger is there's a real potentiality they could make the surface of the earth unlivable for a very, very long time.
01:00:17.000So we feel that danger of that potential future that comes closer and closer.
01:00:24.000That's what I'm trying to say to people is that most of my show is about inflation and the central banks and how they're bringing in their ESGs and bringing in their central bank digital currencies and how they're cutting off the water supply and the food supply and how they're doing all this.
01:00:46.000And then as things get more and more intense and as we all either awaken or become more automaton-ish, To the globalist, like something out of Metropolis.
01:00:58.000Or Metropolis, that famous movie made by the German.
01:01:02.000As we choose that side, doesn't matter whether you're Alex Jones or Russell Brand or Joe Schmoe or Sally Sixpack.
01:01:09.000or Sally's soccer mom, you're going to resonate one way or the other, and that's just the way it is.
01:01:15.000And so it does seem overwhelming, but you notice the archetypes
01:01:19.000that you see in so many Hollywood movies.
01:01:20.000And they'll sell a negative message in the movie, but they gotta have truths in them to make you open up.
01:01:27.000And so you've got like, Empire Strikes Back, and Darth Vader's there saying,
01:01:48.000Poltergeist, the second poltergeist, where they have to basically fall into hell to go save their daughter and at the same time save a bunch of other souls that were held by this demon in purgatory.
01:02:00.000Now that's literally what this is and so Hollywood over and over again is telling you this and so when you feel like you're going to that hole and you're being attacked at your weakest point by the energies that want to drag you down and use you as an energy source because you're energetically spiritually so beautiful And that's why they come out for good people.
01:02:19.000You have to then just turn loose and say, God save me, I'm with you.
01:02:22.000And then they have no more power over you once you do that.
01:02:48.000If I'm sitting there in a jail cell and they're torturing me and pulling my teeth out with pliers, I'm thinking, man, I'm really over the target.
01:03:00.000Because those are just shadows of the true archetype.
01:03:02.000But the more we're Christ-like, the more we're willing to pay for other people's freedom, is the better universe we're going to have.
01:03:09.000And so by those sacrifices, understanding that this is just flesh and blood, and understanding it to transcend the pain, that is the sacrifice.
01:03:17.000Now the New World Order Satanists, they invert that.
01:03:20.000And if we can do an overhead shot, I want to show Russell this.
01:03:23.000This is the FDA Safety Surveillance COVID-19 Vaccine Draft Working List of Possible Adverse Outcomes Subject to Change.
01:03:30.000This was put out in October 2000, months before the shots started in the United States.
01:03:34.000I guess my crew's not in there to do a punch-up of this?
01:03:57.000They metaphysically have to Get you to accept it with fine print.
01:04:04.000So if I say, here's an apple, it's delicious and good, and you eat it and it's poison, I've just murdered you karmically, spiritually, that comes back on me.
01:04:13.000But if I trick you and say real fast, oh, it's really delicious and great,
01:04:49.000government saying, this is what we think is going to happen, publishing it, and then all of that has now happened, and now the life expectancy across the Western world is going So this is them playing God.
01:05:05.000If they want to be God, they've got to believe that they are the angel of death.
01:05:09.000And they've got to give life and they've got to take life.
01:05:12.000And this is all the globalists setting themselves up as God and beginning the Great Depopulation.
01:05:20.000Instead of sacrificing themselves in good work and helping poor people and building society and literally getting down in the trenches, they're gonna sit back on their private jets and their huge palatial mansions and tell everybody else, you can't have children, you can't have a car, you can't have an air conditioner, you can't travel, you can't have a job.
01:05:37.000In fact, you're gonna eat bugs and we're gonna sacrifice you for the greater good of the earth because you're garbage, because you're a useless eater, because you're not essential.
01:05:45.000Well, I tell Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab and all of them, you're not essential, and we can physically look at you and see the evil shining out of you, and you will be cut off from God, and they know it.
01:05:57.000They know, and they wanna claw and drag as many of us with them as they can, and they're not.
01:06:02.000They're gonna be cut off from the universe forever.
01:06:05.000That's some powerful stuff from Alex Jones.
01:06:08.000That concludes part one of our interview today.
01:06:13.000To get your copy of Alex's new book, The Great Awakening, Defeating the Globalists and Launching the Next Great Renaissance, click the link in the description.
01:06:21.000Now, until tomorrow, we're going to leave it, but tomorrow with Alex Jones is even more incendiary because, of course, we're talking about Israel, Palestine, global conspiracies.
01:06:38.000Do you think that because of independent media voices, whether that's Joe Rogan, Tucker, yourself, that the plan for the pandemic was interrupted?
01:06:48.000So now they're really horrified of Trump because they are definitely Scared of him decentralized is that something that we can
01:06:56.000offer the world because in a sense otherwise Alex We're giving more and more
01:07:01.000apocalyptic visions that still seem to be conveying a terrifying
01:07:07.000Endgame event we're at a mega turn. We're headed towards the singularity. They're threatening into the world if they
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