Another mass shooting, another mass shooting. Another mass shooting that leaves 17 dead, including 17 students and teachers in Parkland, Florida. What do we do in the wake of mass shootings? What can we do to prevent them from happening in the future? What should we do about them in the first place? And why does the media always call for more gun control after mass shootings like this? Ben Shapiro answers all of these questions and much more on this episode of The Ben Shapiro Show on today s episode of the Ben Shapiro Podcast. Today's episode is brought to you by Tripping, the world's No. 1 vacation rental site, where you can save an average of 18% per night by booking your next vacation with Tripping. That's right, you can spend less time planning your next trip, more time relaxing with a vacation rental, and you'll feel a lot better about it. Don't forget, if you want to save time and save money while booking the perfect vacation rental you've ever had or folks like me have ever had, go today! Book your vacation rental for you next trip and get the best deal you ve ever had! That's Tripping! Go today! Ben Shapiro - go to tripping.co/ShapiroShow and book your vacation! And if you re feeling bad about things, go to Tripping and book a great vacation rental that s perfect for you! Don t miss out on the best deals on that vacation you ve been looking forward to taking in the past week or the next one you ve never had? That s Tripping? . That s a lot of great vacation rentals you vettling, that s going to be the perfect place you ve gone to! You ll be the best vacation rental in the whole world! . And you ll feel better than you can t stop by and get a deal on a place with a place to stay in the next time you re planning a trip, you ll be better off in the middle of the country. And you ve got the best place to relax and you ll have a good time in the place you re going to go to be in the most amazing place in the world. You ve got it all the best of what s gonna have it all that s gonna feel like it s gonna be there, you re gonna have a lot more than that, right there on the next episode of That s TALKING about it, right?
00:00:18.000So there's a lot to get to with regard to this particular shooting, another mass shooting.
00:00:22.000It's another month, another mass shooting.
00:00:24.000And this has driven a lot of folks in the media to do what they always do after a mass shooting, which is call for gun control and then suggest that anyone who disagrees with their prescriptions to solve problems like this must not.
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00:02:26.000You know, last night, in the aftermath of this horrific shooting, my—I was in a pretty terrible mood, as I think most people were who saw the information.
00:02:34.000It was heartbreaking and upsetting and deeply disturbing, obviously, whenever you see a situation where somebody walks into a school and just starts gunning down students and teachers.
00:02:44.000And last night, my daughter was really misbehaving.
00:02:46.000She's 4 years old, and she's at the stage where she says no to everything.
00:04:07.000On Twitter, particularly, where everybody is looking for an instant reaction, folks on the right, whenever there's a mass shooting, say, let's wait for all the facts.
00:04:13.000And folks on the left, when there's a mass shooting, says, you don't need any more facts.
00:04:16.000There have been lots of mass shootings.
00:04:17.000The United States has more mass shootings over the past 20 years than most of the industrialized world combined.
00:04:22.000That means it's time for a massive bout of gun control.
00:04:27.000I mean, I think that the tendency to say, we need to do something, something has to stop here, is strong.
00:04:33.000But that doesn't mean that any particular piece of legislation that's put on the table is going to be equally valid or that it's going to be equally effective at doing this.
00:04:40.000So during the ramp up, usually what it turns into is folks on the left scream gun control, folks on the right say, let's wait for all the facts.
00:04:45.000And then folks on the left say, all you want to do is thoughts and prayers.
00:06:45.000Let's move beyond the implication that folks we disagree with are obviously uncaring, unfeeling, crude, barbarous people who don't care when small children and high schoolers are cut short in the prime of their lives before they've even had a chance to have a full life by evil, sick human beings.
00:07:00.000Let's put that aside, because if we can't put aside the implication that folks we disagree with are evil and nasty, then we can't have a political discussion.
00:07:09.000If you're on the left today, and you really think that folks on the right don't care about what happened in Parkland, and that what you're dealing with is an ultimately evil group of people who do not care at all when innocents get shot, then maybe it's time for you to arm up yourself and go fight those people, because only monsters would not care what happened in Parkland, Florida, yesterday.
00:07:25.000So, what exactly did happen in Parkland, Florida, where here was a school shooting eyewitness talking about the harrowing events?
00:07:32.000Well, it was a second fire alarm that went off today, around like 2.22, and we were like suspicious because
00:07:39.000We already had a fire alarm, Joe, going off, so we weren't sure if this was a real fire, Joe, or not.
00:07:44.000And apparently, I guess, the shooter pulled the alarm so you could have kids going out on the hallway to shoot.
00:07:49.000And I was on the top floor, and then right behind, right below me, on the first floor, I heard shooting, and I saw two guys running.
00:07:57.000I went to make a right, and I just ran.
00:07:59.000And I had my book bag on my back, just in case I got shot from the back.
00:08:02.000It would go through my book bag and my books.
00:08:05.000I ran to where there were students and teachers,
00:08:11.000And we went to Westfleet and then from there I knew it was a real shooting because I saw three helicopters and that's when everyone was just all meant for themselves and
00:08:29.000So the shooter, whose name—you know, I'm starting to believe—I've always been conflicted about this.
00:08:36.000There are a lot of folks who say you should not mention the identity of the shooter, you shouldn't mention the name of the shooter, and I'm starting to believe that's right, because the glorification of these shooters is obviously driving other people to worship them.
00:08:46.000Since Columbine, a huge percentage of school shooters have worshipped at the altar the folks who were responsible for Columbine, the monsters responsible
00:08:55.000So, I'm going to avoid mentioning the name of the shooter today.
00:08:58.000I'm going to talk about what we need to know about him, but I'm not going to mention his name, because I don't think that giving him credibility or giving him fame is a worthwhile thing, because these crimes do tend to create copycats.
00:09:10.000Matthew Walker was a student at the school, and he was discussing with the media what he saw and also what he knew about the shooter.
00:09:18.000Honestly, a lot of people were saying that it was going to be him and stuff like that.
00:09:21.000A lot of kids do jokes around like that, saying that he's the one that screwed up the school, but it turns out, you know, everyone predicted it.
00:10:48.000According to the teacher, school officials had sent out an email warning teachers about the shooter and the alleged threats that he was making against other students.
00:10:56.000The Broward County school superintendent said this didn't happen.
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00:12:59.000So, according to the Broward County Schools District Superintendent, Robert Wonsey, he said potentially there could have been signs out there, but we didn't have any warning or phone calls or threats that were made.
00:13:07.000But his classmates, the shooter's classmates, say he was a well-known threat at the school.
00:13:11.000A lot of people were saying that it was going to be him.
00:13:15.000One of the students said everything he posts is about weapons.
00:14:04.000So there was a YouTube user who used his real name, this guy used his real name, and he wrote in response to a video by a vlogger that he was going to be a, quote, professional school shooter.
00:14:14.000On Thursday, BuzzFeed reported the FBI had been warned about someone of the same name in late September 2017.
00:14:19.000BuzzFeed spoke with the YouTube vlogger Ben Benite, 36, who said he noticed an alarming response to one of his videos posted and immediately contacted the FBI.
00:14:27.000Agents with the Bureau's Mississippi Field Office got back to him immediately, Benite said, and conducted an in-person interview the following day, on September 25th, according to BuzzFeed.
00:14:42.000So you can actually see the screenshot in which the shooter says, I'm going to be a professional school shooter and uses his actual name.
00:14:50.000It is it is not a it is not a pseudonym.
00:14:54.000But I told BuzzFeed that around 430 on Wednesday, 30 minutes after they took the shooter into custody, Special Agent Ryan Furr of the Miami FBI field office contacted him about the shooter.
00:15:25.000The FBI refused to acknowledge that they made this call or that this guy was on their list.
00:15:31.000According to former classmate Joshua Charo, 16, he said,
00:15:46.000Apparently, he escaped the school by hiding among the other students evacuating the area, but then he was arrested in a nearby neighborhood at around 4 p.m.
00:16:20.000He just got shellacked on media over this.
00:16:23.000It's not, only because people don't know how this happened.
00:16:27.000I mean, who this person is, what motivated them, how did they get a hold of the weapon that they used for this attack?
00:16:33.000I think it's important to know all of that before you jump to conclusions that there's some law that we could have passed that could have prevented it.
00:16:38.000And there may be, but shouldn't we at least know the facts?
00:16:43.000I think that you can always have that debate, but if you're going to have the debate about this particular incident, you should know the facts of that incident before you run out and prescribe some law that you claim could have prevented it.
00:16:54.000I've seen a lot of that on television, and maybe there is a law that could have prevented this instance.
00:16:59.000But we don't know that, and neither do they.
00:17:04.000Listen, Glenn Kessler fact-checked this statement by Rubio.
00:17:07.000Rubio made a similar statement last year, saying all the gun laws that have been proposed wouldn't have stopped a lot of these school shootings.
00:17:12.000And Glenn Kessler, who has no right winger over at The Washington Post, concluded that this was true.
00:17:18.000The fact is that in this particular case, if somebody—here's the deal.
00:17:21.000In a country with 300 million weapons, and there are 300 million guns in the United States, if you are determined to go and hit a soft target with no security present,
00:17:52.000One, what can we do to minimize the chances that this happens?
00:17:55.000And number two, how do we maximize the chances that the response time is the shortest so that we can kill somebody like this before they're able to do any more damage?
00:18:02.000So the answer to question number one, there are some things that we can probably do.
00:18:06.000Jim Garrity over at National Review has suggested, for example, that we really crack down in more harsh fashion on straw purchasers.
00:18:11.000Straw purchasers are people who buy a gun and then transfer it illegally to somebody.
00:18:15.000So, I buy a gun legally, and then there's somebody I know who can't get a gun, and so I transfer that gun legally to that person.
00:19:06.000Everybody was warning about him, and nobody was able to do anything.
00:19:08.000So maybe one of the things that we should do, as a preventative measure, is make it easier to involuntarily commit somebody like this, who sounds like he's a sociopath.
00:19:16.000And maybe we should make it less difficult for family to say, listen, we can't control somebody like this.
00:19:22.000Right now, the law in most states across the United States is that we will only put you on a 48-hour hold, a 48-hour psychiatric hold, if you are a danger to yourself or others.
00:19:32.000And then if you can show that you're not a danger to yourself or others, we release you again.
00:20:14.000There's something wrong with that system.
00:20:16.000I mean, we have to have heavy screening.
00:20:17.000We don't want innocent people being forcibly institutionalized.
00:20:23.000We do want to make sure that if you have a real mental illness and you're a threat to others, that you're not out on the streets able to walk into a school and start shooting it up.
00:20:29.000So that's something that you could, there are a couple things you can do right off the bat to stop this.
00:20:33.000Background checks, would that have stopped this case?
00:20:34.000No, because again, there was nothing for them to check.
00:20:38.000The only way that you could presumably stop somebody like him from buying that weapon is to ban the weapon outright, ban the sale of the weapon outright.
00:20:43.000So that's what the left is starting to propose now, is let's ban the sale of the weapon outright.
00:20:47.000That probably would not have stopped this particular case, because again, if you are determined, there are too many guns in the United States to prevent the illegal sale of a gun to somebody who wants one.
00:20:56.000And unless you're willing to undergo a full-scale gun confiscation, in which you're talking about hundreds of millions of weapons across the United States, which would not go down without significant violence, particularly in gun-heavy areas, then you're not talking in the real world.
00:21:09.000You're just not speaking about things that are happening in the real world.
00:21:12.000In Australia, the gun violence rate has gone down at a lower rate than the United States, despite the gun confiscation.
00:21:18.000The gun confiscation only took one-third of the guns.
00:21:20.000That was the gun buyback program in Australia.
00:21:30.000So then it becomes a question of what can we do practically, and a lot of the measures that the left talks about wouldn't do anything practically when they say ban assault weapons.
00:21:38.000OK, so what do you mean by assault weapon?
00:22:38.000Again, going back to the original point, people on the left continue to insist over and over and over again that if I want to look specifically at what measures they're pushing,
00:22:48.000Then this means that I'm doing something wrong.
00:22:50.000Instead, I should just give them a blank check because something terrible and evil just happened.
00:22:53.000Okay, in just a second, I'm going to show you the Democratic response to this and where I think it is morally deficient.
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00:25:02.000I think that it's useless in politics and it's counterproductive in politics.
00:25:06.000And, in fact, all it is for the left is a buzzword.
00:25:08.000When the Democrats controlled Congress, when they had 60 votes in the Senate and a majority in the House and the presidency, they didn't pass one piece of solid gun control legislation.
00:25:17.000They knew the American people wouldn't like it.
00:25:19.000They knew that, in many cases, it probably would have been unconstitutional.
00:25:21.000But here is Debbie Wasserman Schultz again saying it's not too soon to talk about gun control.
00:25:26.000Listen, I am happy to talk about gun control.
00:25:28.000But you need to show me what is the specific piece of legislation we are discussing, what is your specific proposal, and then we can talk about it.
00:25:34.000Otherwise, you just saying, I don't like guns, is as useless as you saying, I don't like nuclear weapons.
00:25:40.000I'm not a huge fan of nuclear weapons either.
00:25:42.000But we have to talk, in serious policy terms, about the costs and benefits of the United States having nuclear weapons.
00:25:48.000And the same thing is true with regard to private ownership of guns.
00:25:51.000Here's Debbie Wasserman Schultz doing the routine.
00:25:53.000It's absolutely not too soon to yet again say that something has to be done about access to guns in this country.
00:26:01.000But just as important, something has to be done about making sure that people who have mental health challenges get the help that they need.
00:26:12.000Okay, so if we all agree with that, on the mental health challenges, that people who have mental health problems ought to get the help that they need, then we need to strengthen the system.
00:26:48.000Boiling down of this stuff to legislation, things become a lot more complicated.
00:26:52.000So, for example, there are a bunch of people online who have now been claiming that Donald Trump rolled back an Obama rule on background checks for gun ownership, that they struck down an Obama-era regulation blocking gun sales to the mentally ill.
00:27:36.000Because most people read headlines and ignore the articles underneath, both Twitter and Facebook were full of talk last night about the perfidy of the House.
00:27:42.000So here is what exactly happened here.
00:28:17.000Bureaucrats within one federal agency would be able to say that old people who are no longer able to take care of their finances should have their guns removed from them, and this should be used as a definition of mental defective.
00:28:28.000There are a bunch of problems with this.
00:28:30.000So as Charlie says, on separation of power grounds, the prospect
00:29:00.000Again, the link also between financial acumen, being able to take care of your finances, and being able to own a gun, that link is really weak.
00:29:08.000I know a lot of people who are not capable of handling their finances.
00:29:11.000And most of those people are still able to handle a gun.
00:29:15.000The left trotted out this nonsense anyway all day yesterday, and you're still seeing it today.
00:29:19.000Blumenthal—Senator Blumenthal from New Jersey—from Connecticut, rather, Richard Blumenthal, he was doing the same routine as Debbie Wasserman Schultz, however, and blaming Congress for not doing enough, even though he can make no specific proposal that would have stopped what happened yesterday.
00:29:34.000This one is the 18th school shooting just this year, but also the day-by-day deaths that are preventable, and we have an obligation to prevent.
00:32:55.000So I think that it's just important to get the statistic correct.
00:32:58.000You wonder why people don't trust the media?
00:32:59.000It's because the media don't bother to do any of this.
00:33:00.000They just give you the bottom line, 18 school shootings.
00:33:02.000And then, the minute you dig into it, you realize there were not 18 school shootings, there were three.
00:33:06.000A football player was shot and killed in Winston-Salem, North Carolina.
00:33:09.000In Benton, Kentucky, two people were killed, another 15 shot at Marshall County High School.
00:33:13.000January 31st, there was a fight that broke out at a Pennsylvania high school and a 32-year-old man was shot and later died.
00:33:19.000So that is not the same as what the media have been telling you.
00:33:22.000The media's malfeasance here has been really quite awful.
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00:34:46.000All the late night hosts go out there and talk about gun control, even though a simple note of sympathy would suffice.
00:34:53.000They decide that they become experts on gun control.
00:34:54.000Members of the media go out there and talk about how much they care, because in American society, for some odd reason, we have decided that we can judge whether you are making a quality proposal by the level of how much you care.
00:36:30.000This is what I said to Piers Morgan years ago after the Sandy Hook shooting, that he's standing on the graves of the kids at Sandy Hook in order to promote his political agenda.
00:36:36.000Unfortunately, members of the media still play this game.
00:36:39.000If you cannot assume good intentions on the part of your political opponent, you're never going to be able to make a deal.
00:36:43.000You're certainly not going to be able to come to any sort of conclusion.
00:38:10.000Whenever people say things like, America's better than this, it's so irritating, because the suggestion is, if I disagree with your general proposition on policy, then that means I don't think America's better than this.
00:40:00.000But he wrongly assumed that they were armed security guards.
00:40:02.000And he thought to himself, OK, I can either walk in here and get my ass shot, or I can go to a place where there will be no security, like the JCC, and then I can shoot up as many people as I want.
00:40:36.000We have armed security guards at malls, for goodness sake.
00:40:38.000Why shouldn't we have them at schools where we have a bunch of sitting duck students, the most valuable commodity our society has, kids, and they're utterly unprotected.
00:40:47.000And you stick a gun-free sticker up there and you think that's going to somehow dissuade people from walking on campus with a gun?
00:40:53.000I don't understand why this is even mildly unreasonable.
00:40:55.000How is it unreasonable to suggest that maybe we ought to have armed people who are qualified with a gun standing there to make sure that other armed people can't walk in the school?
00:41:03.000This guy walked in there with a full-on rifle.
00:41:28.000You know what doesn't militarize a school?
00:41:29.000Having a security guard that everybody knows their name and they're friends with, who knows how to use a gun and is capable of doing that in case a bad person walks on campus with a gun.
00:41:37.000This notion that you're going to protect students by doing none of that.
00:41:47.000This idea that students are so fragile psychically that if they see a man with a gun in a uniform, or if they see cops on campus, or if they see a security guard on campus with a gun, not a security monitor with a stupid radio, an actual gun, if they see that person, this is going to disturb them.
00:42:03.000It's going to make them unable to function in a normal society.
00:42:35.000Hiding in a closet, texting their parents that they might be about to die because there was no one on campus with a gun to stop a bad man who walks onto campus with a gun.
00:42:42.000So listen, I'm happy to look at gun control proposals if they are actually specific so we can determine what is true and what is not.
00:42:48.000What I am not willing to do is entertain the idea that if you just say gun control, I'm supposed to bow to whatever you fill in that blank check with.
00:42:55.000And meanwhile, I'm supposed to pretend that it's not idiocy not to have armed security guards on campus.
00:43:01.000Now, I thought there was something else interesting that was tweeted out yesterday.
00:43:04.000Michael Ian Black, who's a comedian, he tweeted something out about how there is something deeper than the gun problem happening in the United States.
00:43:12.000I think he's half right and half wrong.
00:43:13.000Here's what he tweeted, quote, Deeper even than the gun problem is this.
00:43:17.000Until we fix men, we need to fix the gun problem.
00:43:19.000The last 50 years redefined womanhood.
00:43:21.000Women were taught they can be anything.
00:43:22.000No commensurate movement for men who are still generally locked into the same rigid, outdated model of masculinity, and it's killing us.
00:43:28.000If you want to hurt a man, the first thing you do is attack his masculinity.
00:43:31.000Men don't have the language to understand masculinity as anything other than some version of a caveman because no language exists.
00:43:36.000The language of masculinity is hopelessly entwined with sexuality, and the language of sexuality is hopelessly entwined with power, agency, and self-worth.
00:43:43.000So men, and boys before that, don't have language for modes of expression that don't readily conform to traditional standards.
00:43:48.000To step outside those norms is to take a risk most of us are afraid to take.
00:43:51.000As a result, a lot of guys spend their lives terrified.
00:43:54.000We're terrified as being viewed as something other than men.
00:43:56.000We know ourselves to be men, but we don't know how to be our whole selves.
00:43:58.000A lot of us, me included, either shut off or experience deep shame or rage, or all three.
00:44:15.000But his suggestion that what is happening here is basically that men have been told that they ought to act like men, that this has corrupted manhood, is nonsense.
00:44:24.000If there was a collapse in manhood over the last 50 years, you have to ask what changed.
00:44:28.000What changed in the model of manhood was the definition of manhood.
00:44:32.000Manhood used to be about being a protector.
00:44:35.000I don't have to redo the sheepdog speech here from American Sniper, but that's what being a man was about.
00:44:40.000That being a man, I will say the main message.
00:44:42.000The main message, if you haven't seen American Sniper, a very famous speech by one of the characters, the main message is that men can either be wolves or sheep or sheepdogs.
00:44:51.000They can either be victimizers, or they can be the victimized, or they can be the sheepdogs who ensure that the wolves are kept at bay.
00:44:56.000The job of men was to protect innocence.
00:46:07.000That means that boys have to be trained from a very young age to build and not to destroy.
00:46:12.000They have to be told not only not to destroy, but that it is their job to build.
00:46:15.000And the way that you build a society, the way you build a community, the way that you build a safe world is with men who protect human beings from other bad human beings.
00:47:05.000It's something we ought to keep in mind as we move forward in these discussions, that something is happening on a societal level that is really negative and really nasty, and it goes deeper than the kind of weapons that are available on the market.
00:47:15.000Okay, so there's a lot going on on immigration.
00:47:19.000But we're going to save that for tomorrow, because there have been a couple of immigration plans proposed.
00:47:23.000The White House is in favor of one, not in favor of the other.
00:47:25.000The one that seems to be moving fastest through the Senate, to make a long story short, is a proposal that essentially allows illegal immigrants up till now to stay in the country illegally and to bring in some family members, and even allows a four-month grace period for people who are entering the country now illegally to get in and never be deported.
00:47:41.000The White House has already said they won't sign that bill, but that seems to be the one that's moving through the Senate.
00:47:44.000We'll have some more updates on it tomorrow.
00:47:45.000OK, time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.
00:48:02.000Like Sam Harris, he's on the political left.
00:48:04.000But Steven Pinker is willing to discuss the reality that there is such a thing as objective truth, that some cultures are better than other cultures, that reason makes a difference, and that the Enlightenment was something that was good.
00:48:16.000Now, where I think that, I'll read the book and then I'll give a fuller critique of it, but my initial response and my initial prediction about the book is that Pinker, in taking a somewhat anti-religious view, because Pinker is an atheist from what I understand, that in taking a somewhat anti-religious view, he's ignoring the root fundamentals of the Enlightenment.
00:48:33.000I'm a pro-Enlightenment guy too, but I also acknowledge where the Enlightenment came from.
00:48:37.000It didn't just spring out of the minds of man unprompted.
00:48:40.000There was a whole set of developments that occurred before that,
00:48:43.000And then we've ripped away a lot of the developments undergirding the Enlightenment, and then we want to keep the actual cherry on top.
00:48:48.000Well, you can't get rid of the Sunday and keep the cherry on top.
00:48:59.000His book, Pinker's book, Jordan Peterson's book.
00:49:02.000There are a lot of people who are in the sciences, people who are now rising up to defend civilization against the postmodernist cult that has torn down science, torn down reason, torn down
00:49:13.000Humanism, not just secular humanism, but religious humanism.
00:49:16.000And I think that it's important to fight back against that.
00:49:19.000You know, I provide very often on this show a vision of a humanity that is in some ways degraded, in some ways degrading, meaning that it is degrading over time.
00:49:30.000But the reality is that, as I've said before, this is the best time in human history to live.
00:49:34.000Now the question is, what can we make ourselves to make ourselves the best selves to take advantage of that and continue that progress forward rather than moving backward?
00:49:40.000Okay, time for a couple of quick things that I hate.
00:49:47.000So, one of the things that is super irritating whenever we get into a gun discussion is how little people on the left know about guns while they're talking about them.
00:49:54.000So, we heard the usual schtick about how this weapon, if you held down the trigger, that it was going to fire a continuous stream of bullets.
00:51:22.000Honestly, don't talk about things you don't know anything about.
00:51:24.000Elizabeth Warren, also yesterday, she made a fool of herself.
00:51:27.000She spoke to this Native American group, we discussed it at length yesterday.
00:51:30.000Here's what it sounded like when this very, very Native American woman, who is whiter than I am by a score, by a huge margin, wearing her traditional Native American garb, here's what she said about her Native American background.
00:51:43.000It has been an honor to work with, to learn from, and to represent the tribes of my home state of Massachusetts, the Aquinnah and the Mashpee Wampanoag.
00:52:50.000The fact that the left goes along with this demonstrates that even identity politics has to take a backseat to leftism when the rubber meets the road.
00:53:15.000Yes, with regard to mental health checks.
00:53:18.000I would like to see some of those proposals advanced.
00:53:20.000So lest anyone say that we're not about moving forward politically.
00:53:23.000We should be moving forward politically, but on a basis of specific proposals, not on the basis of gun control, and therefore you don't care about what happened.