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00:01:51.000Why would they be upset at the Attorney General?
00:01:53.000After all, the Attorney General simply provided a while back, a month ago, a month and a half ago, A four-page synopsis of the findings of the Mueller Report.
00:02:02.000And then we actually got to see the Mueller Report, all 448 pages of it.
00:02:06.000And it turns out that Attorney General Barr accurately summarized the conclusions of the Mueller Report, which is exactly what he said he was doing.
00:02:13.000You don't have to take anybody's word for it.
00:02:20.000Ah, apparently Robert Mueller was very upset, very mad, that William Barr's original synopsis of the findings did not include the mood of Robert Mueller's team.
00:02:36.000Listen, I've been very fair to Robert Mueller.
00:02:38.000I've been suggesting for years, literally years, that Robert Mueller is an honest broker, that we ought to let him do his job.
00:02:45.000And when this was all done, he had done his job.
00:02:48.000He had done a thorough investigation, not only of Russian collusion, of which there was none, but also a thorough investigation of supposed obstruction of justice.
00:02:57.000And it turns out there was nothing prosecutable there.
00:03:04.000Also, he says in the letter itself, the William Barr letter itself suggests that Robert Mueller did not make a finding on obstruction of justice.
00:03:12.000They declined to make a finding on obstruction of justice.
00:03:15.000And that in the end, the Attorney General declined to prosecute because the evidence was not sufficient to sustain a prosecution.
00:03:23.000Bottom line, Democrats in the media don't like that that's what the Mueller report said, and they can't blame Mueller because they've been buying votive candles of him for years, and they don't want to sell those things on eBay.
00:03:31.000So instead, they're going to suggest that William Barr is the big baddie behind it all.
00:03:35.000He's the guy who hid things from the American public.
00:03:39.000Now you may be wondering, How did he lie when three weeks after the release of his letter, he then released the entire underlying report, which you can read, and is public, and is on the bestseller list, and you can buy from Amazon in print edition?
00:03:56.000If he's lying, that's the dumbest, stupidest lie ever.
00:04:00.000So, I read a book, and then I decide I'm gonna write a review of the book.
00:04:04.000So I write a review of the book, and the book is publicly available.
00:04:07.000Now you can say that I mischaracterized the book in my initial review, That's fine, we can have arguments over that, but to say that I lied about the book when the book is publicly available, particularly if I'm in a government position, I'm not just a reviewer.
00:04:21.000I'm in a government position and it's my job to summarize the findings.
00:04:24.000And the findings do match up with the findings of the Mueller Report.
00:04:33.000He's mad because his report is really about President Trump's impeachment.
00:04:38.000His report is that he doesn't like President Trump and that President Trump is a very mean bad man who says bad things about people and then tries to manipulate things behind the scenes but fails.
00:04:47.000That is what Mueller's report is about.
00:04:49.000Not that Trump was engaged in criminally prosecutable activity.
00:04:52.000Not that Trump was engaged in something that would result in an obstruction of justice charge.
00:04:56.000But that Trump was engaged in things that Robert Mueller and his team don't like, and that Barr's initial summary of the report didn't include all those things in his summary.
00:05:07.000So basically, what Mueller wanted is he wanted to have it both ways.
00:05:11.000He wanted to completely abdicate by not suggesting an obstruction of justice charge.
00:05:16.000And then he wanted Barr to do his dirty work for him by releasing Mueller's summary publicly to humiliate the president but not prosecute him, which is not the job of the special counsel.
00:05:26.000The job of the special counsel is to investigate criminal activity.
00:05:30.000It is not to investigate and publicize mean activity or embarrassing activity.
00:05:48.000It's not as though Barr has buried the report.
00:05:50.000The report, again, has been read by, apparently by poll numbers, 3% of Americans, which is a pretty large number of people reading a particular report.
00:05:58.000Now the reason all this is cropping up again is because of a bombshell Washington Post report.
00:06:05.000Now, you can tell that this thing is all staged because William Barr was set to testify in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee this morning.
00:06:11.000And in fact, he did testify in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee this morning.
00:06:16.000But before that happened, before that happened, late last night, there was a report, a bombshell report from the Washington Post.
00:06:23.000And this bombshell report from the Washington Post was titled, Mueller complained to Barr about memo on key findings.
00:06:30.000Now, what you would take away from that headline is that Mueller complained to Barr about the memo's key findings.
00:06:36.000That somehow, Barr had not properly summarized the key findings of the Mueller report.
00:06:42.000But that is not what the Washington Post report itself actually says.
00:06:45.000Here's what the Washington Post report itself actually says.
00:06:48.000Special Counsel Robert Mueller wrote a letter in late March complaining to Attorney General William Barr that a four-page memo to Congress describing the principal conclusions of the investigation into President Trump did not fully capture the context nature and substance of Mueller's work, according to a copy of the letter reviewed Tuesday by the Washington Post.
00:07:05.000I do have a full copy of the letter, which I will read to you in a second because we always bring you all the information you need to know, even if you disagree.
00:07:10.000The letter and a subsequent phone call between the two men reveal the degree to which the longtime colleagues and friends disagreed as they handled the legally and politically fraught task of investigating the president.
00:07:22.000Democrats in Congress are likely to scrutinize Mueller's complaints to Barr as they contemplate the prospect of opening impeachment proceedings and mull how hard to press for Mueller himself to testify publicly.
00:07:32.000Well, they obviously want Mueller to testify publicly because now they have information that Mueller would like to crap on the president.
00:07:37.000I mean, that's basically what this letter shows.
00:07:40.000At the time Mueller's letter was sent to Barr on March 27th, Barr had days prior announced that Mueller did not find a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russian officials seeking to interfere in the 2016 presidential election.
00:07:51.000In his memo to Congress, Barr also said that Mueller had not reached a conclusion about whether Trump had tried to obstruct justice, but that Barr had reviewed the evidence and found it insufficient to support such a charge.
00:08:24.000This is the worst cover-up of all time, in other words.
00:08:27.000Days after Barr's announcement, Mueller wrote the previously undisclosed letter to the Justice Department, laying out his concerns in stark terms that shocked senior Justice Department officials, according to people familiar with the discussions.
00:09:10.000It didn't include the Kenny G of the Mueller report.
00:09:13.000It didn't include the rose petals strewn across the floor for the Democratic impeachers to find.
00:09:19.000Mueller wrote, There is now public confusion about critical aspects of the results of our investigation.
00:09:23.000This threatens to undermine a central purpose for which the Department appointed the Special Counsel, to assure full public confidence in the outcome of the investigations.
00:09:31.000The letter made a key request that by release the 448-page report's introductions and executive summaries and it made initial suggested redactions for doing so, according to Justice Department officials.
00:09:40.000A spokesman for Mueller declined to comment.
00:09:43.000Justice Department officials said on Tuesday they were taken aback by the tone of Mueller's letter and that it came as a surprise to them that he had such concerns.
00:09:50.000Until they received the letter, they believed Mueller was in agreement with them on the process of reviewing the report and redacting certain types of information, a process that took several weeks.
00:09:58.000Barr has testified to Congress previously that Mueller declined the opportunity to review his four-page memo to lawmakers that distilled the essence of the special counsel's findings.
00:10:07.000In his letter to Barr, Mueller wrote that the redaction process need not delay release of the enclosed materials.
00:10:11.000Release at this time would alleviate the misunderstandings that have arisen and would answer congressional and public questions about the nature and outcome of our investigation.
00:10:23.000of this story, all the way down in paragraph 14, is the key element of the story, and the only element that actually matters.
00:10:31.000A day after Mueller sent his letter to Barr, the two men spoke by phone for about 15 minutes, according to law enforcement officials.
00:10:37.000In that call, Mueller said he was concerned that media coverage of the obstruction investigation was misguided and created public misunderstandings about the office's work, according to Justice Department officials.
00:10:49.000In other words, what Mueller was really concerned about was not what Barr had written, but what everyone was taking away from what Barr had written.
00:10:56.000Presumably, he was mad that a lot of the media coverage was about Trump being exonerated.
00:11:00.000Mueller felt that he wasn't really exonerated.
00:11:02.000Mueller felt that there was a lot of underlying embarrassing material, and that if Barr had just said, Note, a lot of underlying embarrassing material that all of this could have been avoided.
00:12:02.000When Barr pressed Mueller on whether he thought Barr's memo to Congress was inaccurate, Mueller said he did not, but felt that the media coverage of it was misrepresenting the investigation.
00:12:14.000So in other words, the media sucks at their job, and therefore the media are now going to blame William Barr for them sucking at their job.
00:12:20.000Because people inaccurately covered Barr's letter and stretched it in one direction or the other.
00:12:25.000Thus, Muller was mad, and thus it's Barr's fault.
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00:14:04.000The actual conclusions, he was right, of course.
00:14:06.000But he didn't include any of the stuff that Mueller really wanted him to include, which was the seething undertone of disdain for the president.
00:15:04.000William Barr did not lie anywhere here.
00:15:06.000What happened is that people... Here's the real truth.
00:15:08.000Democrats, media, they're angry at Robert Mueller.
00:15:11.000They cannot direct their anger at Robert Mueller and so they've misdirected to William Barr.
00:15:14.000Okay, so the New York Times is reporting right now that the special counsel pushed Attorney General William Barr two times to release more of his investigative findings in late March, after Barr outlined the inquiry's main conclusions in a letter to Congress.
00:15:27.000Citing a gap between Barr's interpretation and Mueller's report, according to that letter that we are talking about, the letter revealed deep concern about how Mr. Barr handled the initial release of the special counsel's findings.
00:15:39.000So here is what Mueller actually wrote in full.
00:15:43.000It says, Dear Attorney General Barr, I previously sent you a letter dated March 25th, 2019 that enclosed the introduction and executive summary for each volume of the special counsel's report marked with redactions to remove any information that potentially could be protected by federal rule of criminal procedure 6E.
00:15:58.000that concern declination decisions that's the declination to to determine or related to a charged case we also had marked an additional two sentences for review and have now confirmed that these sentences can be released publicly accordingly the enclosed documents are in a form that can be released to the public consistent with legal requirements and department policies i am requesting that you provide these materials to congress and authorize their public release at this time and then here is the here is the part that everybody is honing in on as we stated
00:16:25.000stated in our meeting of March 5th and reiterated to the department early in the afternoon of March 24th, the introductions and executive summaries of our two-volume report accurately summarize this office's work and conclusions.
00:16:34.000The summary letter the department sent to Congress and released to the public late in the afternoon of March 24th did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance of this office's work and conclusions.
00:16:44.000Well, it wasn't up to Barr to summarize their work and conclusions.
00:16:48.000It was just up to him to summarize the conclusions, which is what he said.
00:16:51.000The entire letter says this is not a full summary of a 450-page report.
00:16:56.000It is just saying, no collusion, no prosecutable obstruction.
00:17:00.000Mueller continues, we communicated that concern to the department on the morning of March 25th.
00:17:04.000There is now public confusion about critical aspects of the results of our investigation.
00:17:08.000This threatens to undermine a central purpose for which the department appointed the special counsel to assure the public confidence in the outcome of the investigations.
00:17:16.000While we understand that the department is reviewing the full report to determine what is appropriate for public release, a process that our office is working with you to complete, that process need not delay release of the enclosed materials.
00:17:27.000Release at this time would alleviate the misunderstandings that have arisen and would answer congressional and public questions about the nature and outcome of our investigation.
00:17:35.000In other words, Mueller wanted them to release his summary because his summary said all the mean stuff about Trump.
00:17:40.000And Barr said, I don't want to release that summary because that summary is going to confuse people.
00:17:59.000And this is what Barr testified to this morning under oath.
00:18:02.000Barr was asked about all of this and he said, listen, Robert Mueller told me that he was not really willing to prosecute President Trump and that the reason he wasn't willing to prosecute President Trump had nothing to do with the Office of Legal Counsel memo on obstruction of justice and the presidency.
00:18:18.000He just didn't feel that he had the necessary evidence to recommend a prosecution one way or another.
00:18:26.000Special Counsel Mueller stated three times to us in that meeting, in response to our questioning, that he emphatically was not saying that, but for the OLC opinion, he would have found obstruction.
00:18:39.000He said that in the future, the facts of a case against a president might be such that a special counsel would recommend abandoning the OLC opinion, but this is not such a case.
00:18:52.000We did not understand exactly why the special counsel was not reaching a decision.
00:18:58.000And when we pressed him on it, he said that his team was still formulating the explanation.
00:19:04.000Okay, so in other words, Mueller was not willing to prosecute.
00:19:08.000Mueller was not willing to recommend a prosecution.
00:19:11.000Mueller told Barr this three separate times.
00:19:15.000And then Mueller is bitching publicly about, oh well, and leaking to the public about, well, you guys, you didn't, in that initial letter, you didn't include all of my damaging material about President Trump.
00:19:37.000Because as much as he dislikes the President of the United States, Robert Mueller, on the whole, is still an honest man.
00:19:42.000And that means he knew that he did not have the substance necessary to sustain an obstruction of justice prosecution.
00:19:48.000And that had nothing to do with the Office of Legal Counsel letter.
00:19:50.000It had nothing to do with the various definitions of obstruction of justice used by William Barr, as opposed to Robert Mueller, which I discussed at the time.
00:20:01.000But even under Mueller's definition, he didn't feel he had the evidence necessary to go forward.
00:20:06.000The reason that he declined to make a decision on obstruction is because he wanted to humiliate President Trump and lay out groundwork for impeachment.
00:20:28.000And the answer is because that is not your job.
00:20:30.000The job of the special counsel is not to reveal to the public damaging information about people who are not being prosecuted.
00:20:37.000In fact, that is not the job of law enforcement anywhere.
00:20:40.000It is not the job of law enforcement to do what James Comey did to Hillary Clinton, where he revealed every detail of the investigation pointing toward her prosecution, and then said, and by the way, we're not prosecuting.
00:20:50.000It was terrible for Hillary Clinton that he did that.
00:20:52.000And Hillary's camp had a proper complaint.
00:20:54.000The counter complaint on the right was, you just explained why she should be prosecuted, why aren't you prosecuting?
00:21:00.000That, I think, was a more accurate complaint.
00:21:02.000But if Comey wasn't going to prosecute, then spilling his gut in public about all of his feelings about Hillary Clinton, that is not the job of law enforcement.
00:21:09.000Can you imagine if every time law enforcement investigated anyone, they just dumped out into the public all of this damaging material about people that is not prosecutable?
00:21:34.000There was a police officer, an off-duty police officer, who accidentally walked into somebody else's apartment, thought that the person in the apartment was actually in her apartment, and proceeded to shoot that person to death.
00:21:45.000The person happened to be a black person who was in his own apartment.
00:21:48.000And then the Dallas Police Department, if I'm... I think it was Dallas, so I just want to make sure.
00:21:52.000May be wrong here, but I'm fairly certain it was Dallas.
00:21:55.000The Dallas Police Department then publicly released the information that this guy, who'd been shot in his own apartment for doing nothing, had pot in the apartment.
00:22:02.000And a lot of people correctly pointed out, including me, why are you smearing the dead guy?
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00:24:38.000Not only did he write a four-page summary that misled the American people, he was then told by Robert Mueller that he misled the American people, then he lies in front of Congress, and then he does a press conference misleading the American people again.
00:25:04.000Getting the journalism all over the place.
00:25:06.000Here is Don Lemon on CNN explaining Barr doesn't work for the rule of law to his fellow block of wood, Chris Cuomo.
00:25:11.000There appears to be collusion between the President of the United States and the Attorney General.
00:25:17.000When you're supposed to be the party of the rule of law, when you have a President and the Attorney General who are not fighting for the rule of law, but who are carrying the water for indecent and inappropriate and possibly even unlawful behavior.
00:26:00.000I, honest to God, have no explanation for how people in the media and on the left are making the claim that Barr is working against the rule of law when he released the full report and when his original memo accurately summarizes the findings of the Mueller report, according to both your eyes and also according to Robert Mueller, the guy who's now whining about it.
00:26:19.000Robert Mueller is only whining because what he really wanted, again, for the thousandth time today, what Robert Mueller really wanted, this was obvious from the report, was for the damaging material about Trump to take front and center stage, not the actual finding of the report.
00:26:33.000But when it comes to criminal justice, the actual finding of the report is what matters.
00:26:37.000The actual decision, whether to prosecute or not, is the thing that matters in the end, and you can't call it a cover-up if then you release a 450-page report replete with the president acting like a jackass.
00:27:03.000And yet you see the entire Democratic Party now circulating that if there is no cover-up, they have to manufacture a cover-up.
00:27:09.000And William Barr is obviously guilty of a cover-up when in reality there is no cover-up because you can read it.
00:27:17.000Asked about his original letter, Barr has testified that his letter was designed to deliver the verdict of the investigation and nothing more.
00:27:24.000Which was obvious from the text of the letter.
00:27:32.000And now you've got the New York Times saying it seems pretty important for the DOJ to release the earlier Mueller letter, the one from March 25th.
00:27:39.000We have to hear about Mueller's opinions on this stuff.
00:28:11.000Maxine Waters, the dumbest person this side of a potato, says William Barr should resign or be impeached.
00:28:17.000I'm always excited to hear Maxine Waters, one of the most corrupt members of Congress of the last half century, talk about when people ought to be impeached.
00:28:23.000After she used her perch at the House Financial Services Committee to allegedly funnel money to a bank in which her husband was an investor, here's Maxine Waters explaining from her high moral perch.
00:28:33.000Atop which, she has suggested that the L.A.
00:28:35.000riots, which ended in some dead and probably billions of dollars in property damage, that was an uprising, according to Maxine Waters.
00:28:42.000But I want to hear her opinions about the rule of law.
00:28:56.000He has used the very words coming right out of the president's mouth.
00:28:59.000No collusion, no collusion, no collusion.
00:29:02.000And made a decision that despite what the special counsel put into that report about obstruction of justice, he said he made the decision that he had not obstructed justice.
00:29:59.000Anderson Cooper, he too, journalism-ing all over the place, all over the CNN set, Anderson Cooper.
00:30:03.000He says Barr's letter looks like a love letter, a sweet, sweet love-making letter to President Trump.
00:30:08.000I think there's an argument in defense of Barr that says he was doing what he was supposed to do, and yes, you can argue with how he characterized it publicly in coming out.
00:30:19.000He did characterize it, and to your point, literally repeating the words of the president, it seemed as much of a love letter to the president as possible from an attorney general.
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00:33:48.000All righty, so quick correction and note.
00:33:57.000The reporter who was speaking on that Anderson Cooper clip is David Gregory.
00:34:00.000Okay, so, on to Venezuela, because I'm sick of talking about a non-troversy, which is this bar thing.
00:34:05.000Let's talk about an actual serious situation in Venezuela.
00:34:09.000So, the latest in Venezuela is new protests have broken out.
00:34:13.000Apparently, there are reports that Nicolas Maduro is basically on the ropes at this point, that Maduro is effectively waiting to be sent out of the country and back to Cuba.
00:34:25.000And that he would have, that would have happened yesterday, except that Russia talked him out of it.
00:34:29.000It's amazing to watch Americans, who supposedly hate Russian collusion, now collude with Russia in their interests in Venezuela.
00:34:36.000Bunch of folks, I haven't heard a word from Bernie Sanders about Venezuela, as this is happening.
00:34:46.000Hey, that's pretty weird since people are getting run over by socialist humvees over in Venezuela right now.
00:34:51.000It seems like a good time to talk about how maybe a popular left uprising, okay, Juan Guaido is not on the right in Venezuela.
00:34:58.000How that might be a good thing to mention, but the Russians have basically maintained that Maduro should stay in power.
00:35:03.000According to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on CNN yesterday, Nicolas Maduro, the socialist evil dictator of Venezuela who has overrun all democratic boundaries, he was ready to leave.
00:35:12.000He was on the tarmac yesterday and then Russia talked him out of it.
00:35:16.000It's been a long time since anyone has seen Maduro.
00:35:20.000He was ready to leave this morning, as we understand it, and the Russians indicated he should stay.
00:35:26.000We think the situation remains incredibly fluid.
00:35:29.000We know that there were senior leaders inside the Maduro government that were prepared to leave.
00:35:34.000They told us as much over the past few weeks, and we're convinced that the Venezuelan people are going to get their democracy back.
00:35:41.000The American left, which is still hearkening back to its glory days stumping for the Soviet Union during the Cold War, they're still arguing that America has no role whatsoever in public pressure on Venezuela.
00:35:52.000A lot of people, isolationist right and on the left, suggesting that it's American involvement in Venezuela that's the problem.
00:36:16.000This is the truth about so much of American foreign policy.
00:36:19.000When America does not play a role, that is not left as a vacuum.
00:36:23.000When America does not play a role, there are other powers in the world who do not have such qualms about quote-unquote imperialism, and they get involved immediately.
00:36:32.000It is much more imperialistic for Russia to be propping up a socialist dictator who has basically centralized military command so he can shoot dissenters.
00:36:41.000There's a difference between that and the United States saying, hey, look, a popular opposition, maybe we should lend them diplomatic support.
00:36:47.000And yet you see the left running headlong away from this.
00:36:49.000The latest from Venezuela is that thousands of pro-Guaido demonstrators are gathering in Caracas again, according to CNN, which, by the way, has been turned off in Venezuela.
00:36:58.000Venezuela's government has prevented CNN from broadcasting.
00:37:01.000So don't worry, the true threat The real threat, as we all know, to the press is right here in America.
00:37:06.000I mean, Jim Acosta was saying as much yesterday.
00:37:09.000Jim Acosta actually tweeted out a picture of himself reading his new audiobook.
00:37:24.000Love that because it is a dangerous time to tell the truth in America when you can be in an air conditioned suite audio reading your book from the U2 suite, actually, as your own network is being shut down in Venezuela.
00:37:35.000Obviously, the true threat to press freedom is President Trump saying mean things to Jim Acosta because, I mean, Jim Acosta, that dude loves him some Jim Acosta.
00:37:43.000In any case, CNN is reporting that in Venezuela, These crowds are gathering in the heart of the opposition in Venezuela's capital.
00:37:50.000They're not showing signs of moving anywhere just yet.
00:37:54.000Guaido tweeted today that he would see people in the streets.
00:37:57.000He said, to our workers, we recognize the value of dignified work, which affords you well-being and progress.
00:38:01.000Today, we know there is no salary which reaches that and that your rights and achievements are ignored.
00:38:05.000May 1st, we accompany you in your demands.
00:38:08.000John Bolton has said that Maduro is now surrounded by scorpions in a bottle.
00:38:14.000He said Maduro spent the day not in the company of Venezuelan forces, but surrounded by Cubans, because he doubted the loyalty of his own Venezuelan armed forces.
00:38:22.000So the military, it seems, may be turning on Maduro, which is a very good thing.
00:38:27.000John Bolton had said yesterday that all options are on the table, that if, for example, Maduro were to start launching missiles at his own people, the United States might get involved.
00:38:35.000Now, let's make clear, the United States is not getting involved in Venezuela.
00:38:39.000The administration does not want to be involved.
00:38:41.000I know virtually everyone in the administration, this is not something they are seeking.
00:38:44.000But, Barack Obama, everyone, every president always has all options on the table, because guess what?
00:38:49.000When you're in the United States, all options are always on the table, just some are off to the side of the table.
00:38:54.000We don't want to break that glass and hit the button.
00:38:57.000If we have to, we will, but that's not something we want.
00:39:01.000Here's John Bolton explaining all the options are on the table.
00:39:04.000Is the US prepared to use any option, including a military option, to support North Biden?
00:39:09.000Let me say two things to be very clear.
00:39:11.000Number one, we want, as our principal objective, the peaceful transfer of power.
00:39:16.000But I will say again, as the President has said from the outset, and that Nicolas Maduro and those supporting him, particularly those who are not Venezuelan, should know, is all options are on the table.
00:39:29.000Okay, so that, you know, obviously is not something that he wants.
00:39:32.000In a second, I'm going to get to the left's opposition to this, and it's really amazing.
00:39:34.000So the left is happy to defend the worst people in the world in Venezuela, namely Nicolas Maduro and his allies in Cuba and Russia.
00:39:42.000Ro Khanna, who's a congressperson from out in California, he suggested that America is responsible for Maduro's Humvees driving over civilian protesters yesterday.
00:40:40.000Now, America's not getting involved in a war over there.
00:40:42.000We're not getting involved militarily.
00:40:44.000That's not something, number one, we need to do.
00:40:47.000The fact is that Venezuela is surrounded by states that do not like Nicolás Maduro because Nicolás Maduro is a threat to the region as well as to his own country.
00:40:54.000I'm sort of amazed, though, by there are some people on the right who have been making the same sort of claim.
00:40:58.000Why do we care about what happens in Venezuela?
00:41:00.000So, Tucker Carlson, a guy who I really like, and I'm friends with Tucker, but Tucker is an isolationist on foreign policy, or at least largely isolationist on foreign policy.
00:41:09.000And Tucker, last night, he started asking, so why are we even meddling in Venezuela?
00:41:32.000So our lawmakers can feel like good people?
00:41:34.000And if they are indeed good people, why do they seem to care more about Venezuela than they care about this country, the one that they run?
00:41:40.000They're happy to send their military to South America at the first sign of chaos, but U.S.
00:41:43.000troops to our own border to stem the tide of 100,000 uninvited arrivals a month?
00:42:01.000Well, one of the things that Tucker cares about, presumably, is illegal immigration.
00:42:03.000He's very strong on illegal immigration.
00:42:05.000The number of Venezuelan immigrants in the United States rose from 216,000 in 2014 to 351,000 in 2017.
00:42:12.000A growth of 61,000 in one year alone, according to migrationpolicy.org.
00:42:18.000And that is, I believe, just legal immigrants to the United States.
00:42:21.000That does not include illegal immigration to the United States.
00:42:23.000One of the reasons we've seen heavy illegal immigration to the United States in recent years is specifically because of the enormous amount of chaos in South and Central America.
00:42:33.000As far as when is the last time that the United States successfully imposed democracy?
00:43:34.000So, to simply equate these countries is not accurate.
00:43:38.000And as far as American involvement, again, if we are not getting heavily involved, I fail to see why, why are you, like, what's the objection?
00:43:45.000Is are we better off with Maduro in power in Venezuela?
00:43:48.000Having an entrenched anti-American socialist who threatens his neighbors and serves as a launching platform for America's enemies?
00:43:57.000Is that better than having a functioning democracy with somebody who is relatively pro-America there?
00:44:14.000I'm not interested in getting involved militarily in Venezuela.
00:44:17.000But to pretend that America can retreat from the world and that our enemies will not just take over territories.
00:44:21.000I mean, this is basic Monroe Doctrine type stuff.
00:44:24.000I mean, this has been true since the early 19th century, that America suggested that we shouldn't have foreign powers encroaching in our hemisphere because it was a threat to America's national security.
00:44:51.000Well, it has something to do with us, since they're right there.
00:44:53.000And Venezuela has something to do with us.
00:44:55.000And as the world grows smaller, America is involved in foreign policies that do affect us here at home, both economically and in terms of terrorism and immigration.
00:45:04.000There are a lot of complex issues that are a lot more complicated than simply, why do we care about Venezuela and caring about Venezuela more than we do?
00:45:46.000That is hilarious only in that that is exactly the case.
00:45:49.000That's Kerry Sanders of MSNBC, making the case for why Americans should not give up their guns.
00:45:53.000Because it turns out that when you give up all your guns to a centralized government, that government then controls all aspects of your life.
00:46:00.000MSNBC, welcome to the Second Amendment Camp.
00:46:10.000There is a great video that is out from Jonathan Sachs.
00:46:13.000Jonathan Sachs was the Chief Rabbi of the United Kingdom.
00:46:17.000There's a great video that he has put out.
00:46:18.000It's a scribing video, so it's Kind of a drawn video, really neat to watch.
00:46:21.000You should go check it out about the connection between Judaism and Israel.
00:46:24.000What we've watched over the last several years, really over the last 15 to 20 years, is the left try and suggest that you can be in favor of the extermination of the state of Israel, but that's not anti-Semitic.
00:46:33.000So simply getting rid of the single largest repository of Jews on planet Earth, not anti-Semitic.
00:46:39.000Disestablishing Israel as a Jewish state, not anti-Semitic.
00:46:42.000Rabbi Sacks blows up that notion in this five minute video.
00:46:45.000We'll play a little clip of it and you should go check it out yourself.
00:46:49.000How can anti-Zionism be the new anti-Semitism?
00:46:53.000Surely there's no connection between them.
00:46:56.000Anti-Semitism is hatred of Jews as a people, a race, an ethnic group.
00:47:01.000Anti-Zionism is an objection to a country, a nation, a state.
00:47:12.000It's a great six minute explanation that is purely intuitive and understandable and common sense about why it is that hatred of Jews has now morphed into hatred of Israel.
00:47:21.000Bottom line is that over history, Jews have been corporately attacked.
00:47:26.000Whether as a religion, or as a culture, or as a race, and now as a state, that's what's happening with regard to the state of Israel right now.
00:48:21.000I will do everything in my power to ensure Georgia elects a Democrat to the United States Senate in 2020.
00:48:27.000Except for running, so that's not happening.
00:48:28.000So the Democrats have lost out on a bunch of candidates who are supposedly strong candidates for Senate come 2020, which suggests they may not be as strong going into 2020 as they purport to be.
00:48:37.000Okay, time for some things that I hate.
00:48:42.000Okay, so Angela Davis is a former terrorist and an anti-Semite.
00:48:46.000She's also hailed around the left as some sort of heroine.
00:48:49.000She was almost certainly involved in the shooting of a federal judge, for which she was labeled a terrorist and put on the FBI's top ten most wanted list.
00:48:57.000Now she wanders around campuses It's not a shock that Angela Davis, who is not a fan of the Jews, is also a fan of Ilhan Omar, who is not a fan of the Jews.
00:49:14.000I am extremely proud that finally we've elected someone to Congress who speaks out in such a powerful way on behalf of black women, on behalf of Palestinians, on behalf of all people who are They're oppressed.
00:50:22.000So, the editorial board of the New York Times has now run an editorial about how terrible they were for running this horribly anti-Semitic cartoon.
00:50:31.000And their editorial is actually quite good.
00:50:33.000The editorial acknowledges that anti-semitic imagery is particularly dangerous now.
00:50:37.000They talk about the rise in anti-semitism.
00:50:40.000They say this is also a period of rising criticism of Israel, much of it directed at the rightward drift of its own government, some of it even questioning Israel's very foundation as a Jewish state.
00:50:48.000We have been and remain stalwart supporters of Israel.
00:50:50.000This is the New York Times editorial board.
00:50:57.000I have an entire article in National Review today about how you have a long history of hating the state of Israel and seeking to ally with those who would destroy it.
00:51:05.000The New York Times says, we believe that good faith criticism should work to strengthen Israel over the long term by helping it stay true to its democratic values, which is a way of saying we have always hoped to undermine the state of Israel by appealing to generalized democratic principles that don't actually apply in the way we say they apply.
00:51:19.000Anti-Zionism, says the Times, can clearly serve as a cover for anti-Semitism.
00:51:30.000Well, first of all, I haven't seen them change their editorial coverage of Israel.
00:51:34.000I'm looking forward to the next 20 editorials about how Benjamin Netanyahu is the true obstacle to peace in the Middle East, and how Hamas is really the voice of an oppressed people.
00:51:58.000If you say that the Jews can't have a state, as opposed to Christians having many states and constituting a majority of a wide bevy of states, and that Muslims have 50-odd states, but the Jews can't have a state.
00:52:10.000The Jews cannot exist as a corporate body, as a religious body.
00:52:36.000Change your coverage, and then we'll talk about whether you have figured out your anti-Semitism problem.
00:52:40.000Okay, so we'll be back here later today with two additional hours.
00:52:43.000There's a lot I wanted to get to on today's show that I couldn't, which is why you should subscribe, because then you can see all of it later.