The Ben Shapiro Show - January 12, 2018


BEN SHAPIRO: Did Trump Say "S*!#hole Countries?


Episode Stats

Length

9 minutes

Words per Minute

188.28671

Word Count

1,795

Sentence Count

106

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

Ben Shapiro and Rachel Campos-Duffy react to the President's denial of what he may or may not have said at the DACA meeting, and debate whether or not he is a racist or a bigot. They also debate if the comments were made behind closed doors or if they were made in a private meeting with the president. (Spoiler: It's the latter.) Ben Shapiro is the editor-in-chief of Dailywire, a syndicated columnist, and the host of The Ben Shapiro Show on the West Coast. He joins us to discuss the latest in the ongoing saga of the president's comments on the Dreamers, and whether they are racist or bigotry, and what the media should make of them. The full episode will be available on the Daily Wire website, Dailywire.me, and on the left-wing website The Daily Wire, and The Weekly Standard, where they provide fact-checking and analysis of the latest news and opinion on events in the world, including the White House Correspondents' Dinner and the latest with Rachel Maddow and John Ava nonchalant response to the latest on the DACA deal. If you're curious about what the president said, check out Daily Wire and The Daily Standard's newest podcast, "The Daily Wire Report," where Rachel's article on the deal, "DREAMer's Dreamer's Reality Check," on the latest. and Daily Wire's Fact-check on the President Trump's comments and the reaction to them, "Dreamer's response to it. Rachel's Take on it, and why it's a racist, bigoted, bigotism and bigoted and racist remarks from the President, and racist, and how it's not racist, racist and bigotrousing, and if it's actually racist, Bigotry? Subscribe to Daily Wire on Apple Podcasts and other media outlets on the internet, wherever you get your favorite podcasting platform, and don't forget to leave us a rating and review us a review of the show on Apple's newest app! Subscribe and review it! and other links to our new podcast on iTunes, Podcharts and Stitcher, wherever else you listen to podcasts and social media are listening to this podcast! Subscribe to our newest episodes on the podrates and other things going on in the web, and subscribe to our podcast on the interwebs, and leave us your thoughts on your favorite podcharts! We'll be looking out for you in the next episode!


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Ben Shapiro is the editor-in-chief of dailywire.com, syndicated columnist, and the host of The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:00:05.000 He joins us right now from the West Coast.
00:00:07.000 Ben, good morning to you.
00:00:09.000 Morning.
00:00:09.000 I'm sure you've been watching.
00:00:10.000 It's a feeding frenzy on some of the other channels regarding what the president may or may not have said yesterday when he was in that DACA deal.
00:00:19.000 And it was reported by the Washington Post initially that he said,
00:00:24.000 Word we're not going to use on this program referring to certain countries, but the president then tweeted this out about an hour ago He said the language used by me at the DACA meeting was tough, but this was not the language used What was really tough was the outlandish proposal made a big setback for DACA.
00:00:42.000 All right, so we've set the table Where would you like to start?
00:00:45.000 Well, I mean, I think that we can start with the denial.
00:00:49.000 It's unclear, you know, whether this was said or not.
00:00:51.000 Now the president has denied it.
00:00:52.000 I would have preferred that if he was going to deny it, he did it right away, obviously, rather than waiting 15 hours to do so, because obviously things sort of blew up in the meantime.
00:01:00.000 As far as the comments that he's accused of saying, there are really two comments that he made, right?
00:01:04.000 There's the one where he said, why are we letting all these people from bleep hole countries into the country?
00:01:09.000 And then he said something about all these Haitians, they should be deported or something.
00:01:13.000 Something along those lines.
00:01:15.000 I don't know.
00:01:35.000 To be fair to the president, some countries are really crappy, right?
00:01:38.000 Sudan, North Korea, Haiti is not a great place to live.
00:01:41.000 It has a life expectancy of 63 years and an average annual GDP per capita of like $730.
00:01:46.000 It's not a great place to live.
00:01:48.000 So, and the cursing, is it something that we love?
00:01:51.000 Nobody said it behind closed doors, unlike Joe Biden, who actually said on a live mic.
00:01:56.000 We're good.
00:02:16.000 There's some for some nefarious reason.
00:02:17.000 Now, there are two reasons why you could say that people from those countries shouldn't come over or shouldn't be privileged in, for example, the diversity visa lottery program.
00:02:24.000 The first reason is not actually bigoted, right?
00:02:27.000 That's the idea that depending on the country that you are from, you may not be as well able to assimilate.
00:02:32.000 And that's not a black white thing.
00:02:33.000 If you're from Russia, maybe you're not as able to assimilate easily as if you're from Great Britain.
00:02:37.000 And in this case, the president's choices of countries are really unfortunate, because when he contrasts Haiti and Norway, it gives people the ability to say, well, he's meaning black and white.
00:02:45.000 When really all that he means is maybe assimilation rates aren't the same from different countries, which seems relatively... Well, Ben, I'll go further than that.
00:02:52.000 Norway was here 48 hours ago.
00:02:53.000 That was on the forefront of his mind, number one.
00:02:56.000 And number two, per capita income is through the roof.
00:02:58.000 So they say that in terms of quality of living.
00:03:02.000 But people saw it in black and white.
00:03:05.000 Right, exactly.
00:03:05.000 So I think that's correct.
00:03:07.000 The second way of reading it is the way which imputes bigotry to the president.
00:03:10.000 I think it requires a little bit of a jump.
00:03:12.000 And that's the idea the president was saying we don't want people from these bleep hole countries because they're bleep hole people.
00:03:17.000 And I think that the media are taking it that way.
00:03:20.000 Again, I think that requires a little bit of a leap.
00:03:22.000 I'm not sure that that's exactly what the president was saying.
00:03:24.000 And without his exact wording and without any context as to what he was saying, you know,
00:03:29.000 I think that how you view this is a Rorschach test on how you view the president.
00:03:32.000 If you want him to be seen as a bigot, if you think he's a bigot already, you're going to jump to he's a bigot from these comments.
00:03:38.000 If you don't think he's a bigot, you're going to say that's not what he meant by this at all.
00:03:40.000 Now, would I prefer he had not said this?
00:03:42.000 Of course.
00:03:42.000 But that's true about like half the stuff the president says for me.
00:03:45.000 That's fair, Ben.
00:03:46.000 This is Rachel Campos-Duffy talking to you.
00:03:49.000 I agree.
00:03:49.000 Listen, I think some of our best immigrants have come from crappy governments and countries.
00:03:55.000 So I'm, you know, a little bit perplexed by that, hoping he didn't actually say that.
00:03:59.000 That said, you know, when is he going to stop trusting the Democrats?
00:04:02.000 I mean, we all say irreverent things, you know, un-PC things when we think we're in a private setting.
00:04:07.000 But gosh, I mean, he probably should know by now that the Democrats are out for blood.
00:04:13.000 I don't
00:04:30.000 There's a lot of things that are quite terrible, including my great-grandparents when they came over.
00:04:33.000 And I think pretty much everybody in the country's great-grandparents came over from somewhere they considered bad, including the Pilgrims.
00:04:39.000 So the idea that, you know, that line works.
00:04:42.000 But you're right that, you know, the president, I swear, if the man could just stay off Twitter and watch his mouth, he would rise five points in the approval ratings almost immediately.
00:04:52.000 And the proof of this is that every time he goes out of the country and he doesn't have access to Twitter and he doesn't actually speak to the press and he's not talking to Democrats,
00:04:58.000 His approval ratings rise 5 to 10 points.
00:05:00.000 And he does actually very good in these settings, in these international settings as well.
00:05:03.000 That's right.
00:05:04.000 Sure.
00:05:04.000 Alright, so let's talk about Nancy Pelosi if we can, because she's getting a total pass here, about what she says about the money that so-called average people are making and getting increases off this economic plan, and how she described the meeting that was held without her.
00:05:17.000 First off, when she was told that $1,000 bonuses were being handed out and places like Walmart were raising up their minimum wage, this was her reaction.
00:05:28.000 In terms of the bonus that corporate America received versus the crumbs that they are giving to workers to kind of put the schmooze on, it's so pathetic.
00:05:41.000 Hmm.
00:05:42.000 Crumbs to put the schmooze on.
00:05:45.000 Could you please, you live in California, can you explain what she's talking about?
00:05:49.000 No, I, no.
00:05:53.000 I have no idea what she's talking about.
00:05:56.000 As a Jewish person who uses the word schmooze pretty regularly, you don't put the schmooze on.
00:06:01.000 That's not actually a thing.
00:06:02.000 And beyond that, when Nancy Pelosi says that people who are low income and getting raises because of the President's tax cuts and the Republican tax cuts, when she says that that doesn't mean anything for those people, that's pretty derogatory toward
00:06:16.000 People who she's supposed to be courting.
00:06:18.000 I mean, I think the whole problem for the Democrats, they didn't win a lot of blue collar votes in places like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin.
00:06:24.000 And now they're going around saying that if you get a thousand bucks back from your employer, you get a raise from your employer.
00:06:28.000 It doesn't mean anything because it's not enough money.
00:06:30.000 Maybe she should stop hanging out in Marin County and start hanging out in rural Ohio.
00:06:33.000 Now the second thing we wanted to bring up is what she said about the meeting that was taking place without her.
00:06:39.000 The highest ranking person there was Steny Hoyer.
00:06:41.000 Nancy Pelosi came out and said, what do you mean, that meeting?
00:06:44.000 With a bunch of white guys?
00:06:46.000 Five white guys.
00:06:47.000 Five white guys?
00:06:48.000 Maybe they should open up some type of other stand?
00:06:50.000 I don't even know what that means, but Steny Hoyer was offended.
00:06:54.000 I mean, is that, I mean, number one, do people have to worry about her stability?
00:07:01.000 Well, I mean, I'm not sure that Nancy Pelosi has been all there for a while, but I'm not going to play Iron Church psychiatrist.
00:07:06.000 I think the voters are going to have to decide whether or not they want Nancy Pelosi representing them.
00:07:10.000 And in San Francisco, apparently they do.
00:07:13.000 But Nancy Pelosi doing this routine about intersectionality with regard to congressional leadership.
00:07:19.000 Well, the negotiations definitely would have gone differently if Nancy Pelosi were there.
00:07:22.000 She's going to have to explain why she would have negotiated any differently than Steny Hoyer, who's her deputy.
00:07:26.000 I'm just confused.
00:07:28.000 Is she on a different page than Steininger?
00:07:29.000 Did Trump not invite her because she's a woman?
00:07:31.000 Is that the implication?
00:07:32.000 Because that seems pretty stupid, actually.
00:07:34.000 Well, maybe President Trump should put the schmooze on her then and invite her next time.
00:07:40.000 One other thing we wanted to ask you about, and apparently there is a newspaper report that the Obama administration tipped off Iranian terrorists that Israel planned to assassinate him just because they wanted to make sure the Iran nuke deal, a Barack Obama legacy item
00:07:56.000 Well, it wouldn't be the most surprising story.
00:07:59.000 This comes from Haaretz, which is an Israeli newspaper that's usually well-sourced.
00:08:03.000 They're reporting it second-hand based on another report.
00:08:05.000 Ben Rhodes, the former national security advisor, essentially, to President Obama, apparently quasi-denied it on Twitter.
00:08:13.000 But it wouldn't be a particular surprise for the Obama administration to be making provision for Iranian terrorists, considering there's an entire political report from Europe all about how they had done so for Hezbollah because they wanted to pay off the Iranian regime.
00:08:24.000 We're good to go.
00:08:39.000 Ben, if this is true, this is the most powerful person in the Iranian Revolutionary Guard who is responsible really tangentially for many American deaths.
00:08:49.000 This, that would be, you talk about a foreign policy disaster that needs to be investigated, Soleimani.
00:08:56.000 This guy, we basically, we told him he's not allowed to leave the country, yet he turned up in Russia.
00:09:01.000 So this, this would be something extraordinary if this is proven correct.
00:09:06.000 It definitely would be a bombshell.
00:09:08.000 And one of the things that's amazing is Tommy Veeder, who of course used to be a member of the Obama administration, apparently not when this story was broken, he came out and he said, well, why exactly is everybody so exercised?
00:09:17.000 It's not like this guy Soleimani was like Osama Bin Laden or something.
00:09:20.000 That demonstrates the gap in understanding about terrorism that the Obama administration evidenced nearly every day in office.
00:09:26.000 Absolutely.
00:09:26.000 All right.
00:09:28.000 Joining us today from the West Coast, Ben, thanks for getting up early.
00:09:31.000 Have a great weekend.
00:09:31.000 Thanks, Ben.