The Ben Shapiro Show - June 13, 2019


Census And Sensibility | Ep. 800


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53 minutes

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208.27393

Word Count

11,101

Sentence Count

723

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

29


Summary

Iranian forces have now attacked two oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz, further ratcheting up tensions between the United States and Iran. Iran has long been a source of tension in the region, especially with Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, which are allied with the West, and are backing opposite sides in the civil war in Yemen, which Iran calls death to the Jews, death to Israel, and death to America . Today's episode of The Ben Shapiro Show is all about the Iranian regime's continued attempts to destabilize the Middle East, and how the U.S. and its allies are doing their best to try to deal with it, including by using economic sanctions and diplomatic pressure, to try and force Iran to give up its designs on the world s oil supply lines. But if they keep doing what they do, we're going to have to go to war, and the sooner rather than later, aren't we all going to be paying the price for it? Ben Shapiro's full report on Iran's continued aggression, plus breaking news out of Iran, including Iran's latest attack on the Persian Gulf, and what it means for the chances of us going to war with Iran, and why we should all be worried about it and why it won't go away any time soon. Subscribe to our new podcast, The Weekly Standard, wherever you get your news and updates on the happenings in the world, including the latest breaking news, your personal finance tip of the past 24 hours! Subscribe today! Subscribe on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe on iTunes Learn more about your ad choices, and become a supporter of the show, rate, review and subscribe to our podcast, and leave us a rating and review in iTunes! - we'll be giving you the best listening experience in the podcast you get the best reviews on the podcast next week! Best of all things podcasting and social media links, including recommendations, reviews, tips, and more! Thanks for listening to the Ben Shapiroism? Subscribe and reviewing our new episodes are featured on the show! and reviews on social media! Want to become a fellow podcaster? - subscribe to the show? and subscribe on your favorite podchronicity? , and we'll send us your thoughts on what s going to the world's best podchow podcast in the next episode of this week's episode will be reviewed on the next one?


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00:00:00.000 Democrats target the Trump administration over the census.
00:00:02.000 Mike Pence comes under fire for opposing gay flags flying over the American embassy in Botswana.
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00:00:10.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:00:10.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:00:12.000 Man, a lot to get to today, plus breaking news out of Iran, where the Iranian regime continues to be extraordinarily militant.
00:00:22.000 This time, they have fired on two oil tankers in the Straits of Hormuz, so tensions are ratcheting up.
00:00:29.000 We'll get to all of that in just a second.
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00:01:38.000 Well, the breaking news this morning is that the Iranian government has now attacked two oil tankers, according to the New York Times.
00:01:38.000 All right.
00:01:44.000 Two oil tankers came under attack on Thursday in the Gulf of Oman, forcing their crews to abandon ship and setting at least one vessel ablaze a month after four tankers were damaged in the same waterway, a vital thoroughfare for much of the world's oil products.
00:01:57.000 The early morning attacks escalated tensions in an already tense region where Iran had long been at odds with Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, and they are backing opposite sides in the civil war in Yemen.
00:02:07.000 The Houthis, backed by the Iranians, whose slogan is, death to the Jews, death to Israel, death to America.
00:02:12.000 Really nice folks.
00:02:13.000 Those are the folks who are fighting on behalf of Iran.
00:02:15.000 The Saudis, of course, have their own set of problems, and they are at war in Yemen.
00:02:20.000 Relations between the United States, allied with the UAE and Saudi Arabia and Iran, have also worsened.
00:02:25.000 Frictions have become so intense, other nations have pled with all sides to stay calm rather than provoke an all-out war, which is really kind of pathetic because the reality is the United States is not interested in war with Iran.
00:02:35.000 No one in the United States is up for a conflict with Iran.
00:02:38.000 But if they keep firing on our ships, I'm not sure exactly what we are supposed to do other than ratchet up economic tension.
00:02:44.000 At a certain point, if they fire on too many of our ships, we're not going to have a choice.
00:02:47.000 We're going to have to eviscerate the regime.
00:02:49.000 Up to that point, nobody is really interested in that.
00:02:52.000 The Trump administration clearly is not interested in that.
00:02:55.000 On Wednesday, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe of Japan, who is visiting Iran and trying to bridge the gap between Iran and the United States, warned of the risk of stumbling into military conflict.
00:03:03.000 Well, you know what heightens that risk?
00:03:05.000 Iran firing on American ships.
00:03:08.000 That's one of those things that might heighten the possibility of a conflict.
00:03:11.000 This is everybody sort of whistling past the graveyard with regard to Iran.
00:03:14.000 worried about the risk of a conflict happening by accident with an escalation that is unintended on either side.
00:03:19.000 This is everybody sort of whistling past the graveyard with regard to Iran.
00:03:23.000 The Iranian regime is deliberately attempting to provoke military action by the United States that is limited in scope, limited enough that it doesn't actually take down the regime, but far enough that it unifies the Iranian people behind a very unpopular regime, There have been rolling economic protests across Iran for years at a time.
00:03:39.000 And since 2009, there's been a broiling, seething undercurrent of anti-government activity in Iran.
00:03:45.000 The Obama administration committed a great act of evil by funding the Iranian government and undercutting that undercurrent of resistance to an evil regime.
00:03:53.000 They decided instead they were going to work with that evil regime, strengthen that evil regime, hand them pallets of cash.
00:03:59.000 Open up their economy.
00:04:00.000 Give them all sorts of access to world markets and money.
00:04:04.000 That was a horrible, horrible move.
00:04:05.000 The Trump administration has done the reverse.
00:04:07.000 And so now Iran is basically trying to do the same thing that North Korea has done for years.
00:04:11.000 Act so militant that everybody sort of backs down and says, you know, if we just give you some money, will you leave us alone?
00:04:15.000 It was not immediately clear how the most recent attacks were carried out or by whom, just as the circumstances of last month's attacks remain murky.
00:04:22.000 Well, the circumstances of last month don't actually remain all that murky.
00:04:24.000 Everybody sort of understands the Iranian government was behind it.
00:04:27.000 The two ships that were struck on Thursday appeared to be more seriously damaged than those hit in May.
00:04:32.000 On a visit to the UAE about two weeks ago, John Bolton, President Trump's national security advisor, said without disclosing any evidence that Iran was almost certainly responsible for the attacks in May, which Iranian officials denied.
00:04:41.000 Which, of course, they would do.
00:04:43.000 Bolton said, who else do you think is doing it?
00:04:45.000 Which is the correct question.
00:04:47.000 Other American officials said Iran's regional and Iran's regional adversaries have been more cautious about publicly assigning blame.
00:04:53.000 That's because they wish to avoid conflict, I think, more than Bolton may want to.
00:04:57.000 Emirati officials described the attacks as state-sponsored but did not specify as state.
00:05:01.000 Well, it wasn't Israel.
00:05:03.000 Mr. Trump has repudiated the 2015 deal, limiting Iran's nuclear program.
00:05:07.000 He recently moved to cut off Iran's remaining oil exports and sends additional military forces to the region.
00:05:12.000 Just yesterday, President Trump spoke about the German government's willingness to take Iranian oil and blasted former German officials, like the former Chancellor of Germany, Gerhard Schroeder, who has basically acted as an Iranian oil interest.
00:05:24.000 in Germany, trying to funnel Iranian oil into Germany.
00:05:27.000 Iran recently threatened to block the Strait of Hormuz, which controls something, it's a choke point for something like 80 to 90% of all oil supply on planet Earth.
00:05:36.000 It's a really key choke point.
00:05:38.000 The Houthi faction in Yemen backed by Iran has launched attacks recently on targets in Saudi Arabia, including oil pipelines, fueling fears of a wider conflict.
00:05:45.000 Now, this should go to show you, by the way, all of this should go to show you that there has been this lie in American foreign policy for years, promulgated by folks who dislike Israel and the State Department, that at the very center of all Middle Eastern conflict lies the state of Israel and its existence.
00:06:00.000 That if you just solve the Israel-Palestinian issue, then all other conflict in the region would disappear.
00:06:05.000 Weird, because every major war in the region, effectively speaking, has not involved Israel.
00:06:10.000 At least since 1973.
00:06:12.000 Every major war in the region has involved states attacking each other.
00:06:15.000 The Iran-Iraq war, the Iraqi invasion of Saudi Arabia, the American invasion of Iraq, and now the war in Yemen, the war in Syria.
00:06:24.000 All of these involve internecine warfare inside the Muslim world.
00:06:27.000 They have nothing to do with Israel.
00:06:29.000 So this notion that we have to solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in order to calm the region is just a bunch of crap, and it always was a bunch of crap, and that's being proved on a daily basis in the Middle East.
00:06:39.000 That is a side point, but it's worthy of note because no matter who the next Democrat in office is, they will immediately swivel back to the lie that at the center of all conflict lies the Jews!
00:06:49.000 Much of the world's oil and gas comes from the Persian Gulf area, bordered by energy powerhouses like Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, and Bahrain.
00:06:56.000 Some of it leaves the region through pipelines.
00:06:58.000 A significant portion is carried by ships that must pass through the Strait of Hormuz and the Gulf of Oman.
00:07:02.000 Oil prices rose more than 3% on world markets in the hours after the attacks on Thursday.
00:07:08.000 Shinzo Abe, the head of Japan, he met Wednesday with President Hassan Rouhani of Iran, and Thursday with Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Leader, who's actually in charge.
00:07:16.000 He delivered a note from Mr. Trump to Khamenei, but the Ayatollah rebuffed the overture, said he could not expect honest negotiation from the American administration.
00:07:23.000 Because when I think honest negotiation, I think the Iranian government, which has lied at every step along the way about its desire to develop nuclear weapons.
00:07:31.000 Khamenei said, Basically, the Iranians are hoping and praying that Trump is ejected from office in 2020, and then they will be dealing with a much warmer President Buttigieg, or President Biden, or President Kamala Harris, or President Elizabeth Warren.
00:07:49.000 Iranian officials suggested the tanker attacks were meant to prevent friendly dialogue and provoke aggression.
00:07:53.000 So they're trying to claim that the United States basically bombed ships that were associated with the United States.
00:07:57.000 That's what they're trying to— Sure.
00:07:59.000 Sure.
00:08:00.000 Javad Zarif, the foreign minister, said, Yes, I'm sure that's what happened.
00:08:07.000 I'm sure that the West is trying to provoke a war with Iran.
00:08:09.000 This is the lie that Iran has been telling for years, which is that we want to go to war with them.
00:08:13.000 Little note to Iran.
00:08:14.000 If the United States desperately wanted to go to war with Iran, the government would no longer exist.
00:08:19.000 It would be a pile of rubble.
00:08:20.000 The fact is that Iran could do damage to the United States because there are terror cells associated with and funded by Iran all over planet Earth.
00:08:28.000 It is true that a war with Iran would be more protracted than a war with Iraq only because the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps is extraordinarily large and paid off by the government.
00:08:38.000 However, Would the regime in Iran survive a direct conflict with the United States?
00:08:44.000 The regime in Iran would not survive a direct conflict with the United States, which is why they are attempting a sort of mosquito bite directed at the United States, hoping that the United States will then knock a couple of Iranian ships out of the water, for example, and then the Iranians can stump around, the Iranian government can stump around talking about how they need to defend their country side with the Ayatollahs.
00:08:44.000 No.
00:09:02.000 And they're looking for a rally around the flag effect that's the entire purpose of this particular move.
00:09:08.000 Because the fact is that the Iranian government is out of money.
00:09:10.000 The choking of the Iranian economy, which has happened under the Trump administration and for which they deserve full credit, has had significant effects on the Iranian government.
00:09:18.000 They are feeling it all across the country.
00:09:20.000 They're not able to fund their terrorist friends at Hamas in the Gaza Strip anymore.
00:09:23.000 Very, very sad.
00:09:25.000 All of their regional ambitions are being gradually thwarted by the fact that they are running out of cash.
00:09:30.000 And so they're attempting to lash out in the hopes that this will create an impetus for everybody to basically pay them off.
00:09:37.000 American analysts were poring over imagery as well as signal intercepts on Thursday to help determine how the attack happened and who was responsible, according to a senior American official.
00:09:45.000 Based on the extent of the damage to the tankers, early indications suggested that either mines or torpedoes were used, said the senior official who acknowledged the investigation was still in its early stages.
00:09:55.000 Last week, General Frank McKenzie, who's the head of U.S.
00:09:58.000 Central Command, told reporters traveling with him in the Middle East he believed the Iranians or their proxies could carry out an attack at any moment.
00:10:04.000 He said, I think the threat is imminent.
00:10:06.000 And you remember that there was a British general who had disagreed, and then the British foreign secretary said, oh yeah, he's wrong.
00:10:11.000 The Iranians are getting really, really militant.
00:10:13.000 One of the ships struck on Thursday is the Front Altair, owned by the Norwegian shipping company Frontline.
00:10:17.000 It was burned.
00:10:18.000 Its crew had evacuated the vessel.
00:10:20.000 CPC Corporation is a Taiwanese oil company that had chartered the ship to carry naphtha, which is a petroleum product, and confirmed that it had been attacked.
00:10:28.000 The Norwegian newspaper VG quoted a frontline spokesman as saying that its ship was on fire, that all 23 members had been rescued.
00:10:34.000 The other tanker was the Panamanian flag, Kokuka Courageous, it was carrying methanol.
00:10:39.000 And the Iranian state news media reported that it too was on fire.
00:10:43.000 It eventually ended up finding a port in, it was reportedly headed from the Saudi port of Al-Jubeil to Singapore, Both the ship's owner and its operator said all 21 crew members had abandoned ship, were later rescued by a nearby vessel.
00:10:54.000 So, if I mentioned earlier that these were American flag, they were not American flag, they were foreign flag, but these are all allies of the United States, obviously.
00:11:01.000 Iran's state news media confirmed the attacks on the two tankers and the rescue of 44 mariners.
00:11:06.000 The news channel IRINN said a rescue team from the southern Iranian province of Horozgan had picked up the crew of the ship carrying the Panamanian flag Japan's trade ministry said both ships were carrying Japan-related cargo.
00:11:19.000 So, we'll bring you the latest on that.
00:11:21.000 I will point out in one second how insane the media coverage of these sorts of incidents are, how preconceived narratives about the evils of the Trump administration really shape the coverage in an extraordinarily significant way.
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00:12:51.000 Okay, so Liz Sly is the Washington Post Beirut Bureau Chief.
00:12:57.000 And here is what she tweeted out in the aftermath of this.
00:13:00.000 Big escalation in the Persian Gulf.
00:13:02.000 Two oil tankers struck and on fire in the Strait of Hormuz, focus of U.S.-Iran tensions, comes after Trump failed to heed the last tanker warning and imposed more sanctions.
00:13:10.000 Okay, that last sentence is so astonishing.
00:13:13.000 It beggars description.
00:13:15.000 Comes after Trump failed to heed the last tanker warning and imposed more sanctions.
00:13:18.000 So in other words, if the Iranian government, a terrorist, a terrorist backing, evil, repressive, disgusting regime, bombs a couple of tankers and then threatens the largest military force, the most powerful military force in the history of mankind.
00:13:36.000 And that most powerful military force in the history of mankind, led by the President of the United States, the Commander-in-Chief, refuses to kowtow to a third-rate power that represses its own people and jails dissidents, then it's his fault, it's President Trump's fault, if the Iranians get more militant.
00:13:53.000 There's this soft bigotry of low expectations that the media have with regard to the ruling of Muslim states in particular that is really pathetic.
00:14:00.000 It's really pathetic.
00:14:02.000 Can you imagine if The UK, France, even Russia were to be bombing tankers that were allied with the United States in a direct slap at the United States.
00:14:13.000 Would there be these sorts of headlines?
00:14:15.000 Do you think there'd be these sorts of headlines about, you know, this is all because the United States has just been so provocative toward these countries, been so provocative toward Russia?
00:14:22.000 No, it'd be, why isn't Trump being more militant with Russia?
00:14:25.000 Why isn't Trump doing something about Russia?
00:14:26.000 It must be he's a Russian stooge, guys!
00:14:29.000 But Barack Obama, who actually acted as an Iranian stooge, who spent years lying blatantly to the faces of the American people, lying in their face, Ben Rhodes, his national security advisor, He openly acknowledged that his involvement in the administration involved crafting a narrative, i.e.
00:14:45.000 lying to the American people, that the Iranian regime was about to moderate, and if the United States made some sort of payoff deal, then Iran would become a moderate, stable force for good in the region.
00:14:55.000 It was all a lie.
00:14:56.000 They knew it was a lie at the time, and they pushed it.
00:14:58.000 They pushed that lie.
00:14:59.000 The Obama administration kowtowed to dictators on a regular basis.
00:15:02.000 It was Barack Obama pledging flexibility on an open mic to the Russian government in the middle of the 2012 election.
00:15:09.000 Was he ever hit with headlines like this from the Washington Post bureau chief in Beirut?
00:15:14.000 Of course not.
00:15:15.000 It's that President Trump refuses to kowtow to the Iranian government.
00:15:19.000 That's a big problem.
00:15:19.000 And as I say, there is this tendency on the part of the media to treat terrorist activity by Muslim governments as though it is not terrorist activity at all.
00:15:28.000 So when the Palestinian Authority engages in the paying of terrorists, when Hamas engages in rocket fire on a democratic ally of the United States, When the Iranian government engages in the spread of terror across planet Earth, then it's all about, well, I guess the West must have provoked them.
00:15:43.000 The West must have done something bad.
00:15:44.000 This springs from a peculiar and ugly perspective on American foreign policy and really the world that suggests that there is a power hierarchy that dictates morality.
00:15:52.000 In other words, that if you are more powerful, you must have victimized somebody at the bottom of the scale.
00:15:57.000 And so the people at the bottom of the scale should feel fully liberated to be as evil as they want to be.
00:16:01.000 Iran is put upon by the West.
00:16:03.000 And therefore, if they bomb random ships, well, you know, that's just what they do, guys, and you gotta give them some room to express themselves.
00:16:10.000 You expect the President of the United States to bow before the whims of dictators who literally lead chants, death to Israel, death to America?
00:16:19.000 That's what you want?
00:16:20.000 Washington bureau chief from Beirut?
00:16:22.000 How pathetic.
00:16:24.000 Okay, now speaking of pathetic, yesterday the Democrats decided to hold the Commerce Secretary and the AG, the Attorney General, in contempt, at least in one House committee.
00:16:35.000 A House panel voted to hold Attorney General William Barr and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross in contempt of Congress over the administration's efforts to shield documents related to its decision to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census.
00:16:47.000 Now you may be asking yourself, What's so wrong with asking people if they're citizens in the census?
00:16:52.000 I thought the census was all about finding out who's in the country.
00:16:55.000 You're right.
00:16:56.000 That is what the census is designed to do.
00:16:58.000 But Democrats are really angry about this.
00:17:00.000 And you should ask yourself, why are Democrats so upset about all of this?
00:17:04.000 Why are Democrats so upset about the asking about illegal immigration in the country, asking people their citizenship status?
00:17:10.000 So they've filed a federal case, I kid you not, with the Supreme Court trying to suggest That if illegal immigrants don't want to answer those questions, and if associated Hispanic folks in districts with lots of illegal immigrants decide not to answer census workers' questions, then the census cannot properly be done, and thus we ought not to ask the question.
00:17:28.000 Which is ridiculous.
00:17:30.000 I mean, I'm sorry, that is a ridiculous contention.
00:17:32.000 That is akin to saying that if you ask, if census workers ask about your career, your job, which they do, if they ask about your career and you are offended by those questions and are less likely to answer the Census Bureau question, well, that means that the census should be barred from asking the question in the first place.
00:17:48.000 The question is, what's the real rationale here?
00:17:50.000 The Democrats have exposed why exactly they love illegal immigration so much.
00:17:54.000 And I really am puzzled Now, you're asking yourself, you know, those illegal immigrants, they're not going to be able to vote, so why would Democrats want them in the country?
00:18:03.000 for people seeking asylum.
00:18:05.000 And the reason they don't wanna do that is because they want those people not held at the border, but released into the interior of the United States.
00:18:10.000 All of this could be solved with a simple act of Congress.
00:18:12.000 Democrats do not wanna pass that act of Congress because they have an actual interest in ensuring that illegal immigrants enter the country.
00:18:19.000 Now, you're asking yourself, those illegal immigrants, they're not gonna be able to vote, so why would Democrats want them in the country?
00:18:24.000 Why is that something that is important to Democrats?
00:18:27.000 And this Census Bureau controversy really answers the question.
00:18:31.000 So the Census Bureau controversy is based on Democrats being very, very upset that there is a memo that was in a dead guy's computer, okay?
00:18:39.000 And what this memo basically suggested is that the Census Bureau should ask these questions because it would lead to redistricting.
00:18:47.000 That there should be a push in the United States to allocate districts based not on the sheer population in a district, but based on the voting population in a district.
00:18:55.000 In other words, if you have 800,000 illegal immigrants in a particular district and 200,000 voting citizens, then that should not be treated the same as a district with one million voting American citizens, which makes sense.
00:19:07.000 We live in a country one man, one vote, right?
00:19:10.000 If I am not subject to America's laws, then why exactly should I be represented in Congress, especially when I can't vote for the people in Congress?
00:19:17.000 It's bizarre.
00:19:18.000 It's a very strange, weird notion that we should allocate districts based on people who cannot vote, are not citizens of the United States and are actively breaking American law.
00:19:27.000 But the reality is that if we redistricted based on citizenship and not based on sheer population size, Democrats would lose something like nine houses and nine seats in the House of Representatives, according to data analysis.
00:19:39.000 The reality is that Republicans would pick up a bunch of seats because, again, there are a lot of illegal immigrants in the country and they are all living in areas that have a lot of Democrats.
00:19:49.000 Not all of them, a huge number are living in areas that, I mean, California is the number one source.
00:19:56.000 Of people who are illegal immigrants living in the United States.
00:19:59.000 So if you wanted to, let's say you're a Democrat, and let's say that you wanted to ensure that you had a lot of Democratic seats in the House, but you didn't want to really add more voters, or you didn't see the need to add more voters.
00:20:08.000 So what would you do?
00:20:09.000 You might create maybe a sanctuary city.
00:20:12.000 And maybe what you would do is you would welcome in millions of illegal immigrants to your city, knowing that with every illegal immigrant, you are gaining a share of a new congressional seat.
00:20:21.000 And now, based on the population of the census, you would be allocated more congressional seats.
00:20:25.000 And now imagine someone was going to go around asking whether those people were illegal immigrants for purposes of determining how many congressional seats were allocated.
00:20:32.000 Well, that might offend you.
00:20:34.000 You might find that to be problematic.
00:20:35.000 Because now, those congressional seats will bleed away from the areas that you have created that are heavy on illegal immigrants and low on voters.
00:20:43.000 This is all very telling.
00:20:44.000 The fact that Democrats are opposed to a basic question like, are you in the country legally?
00:20:49.000 Is pretty astonishing.
00:20:51.000 It's pretty amazing, honestly, and it is extraordinarily telling.
00:20:56.000 It's extraordinarily telling that Democrats are making this case.
00:21:00.000 American Civil Liberties Union lawyer Dale Ho wrote in a request to the Supreme Court, Well, you know what undermines my confidence in our representative democracy?
00:21:07.000 for partisan and racially discriminatory purposes would undermine public confidence in our representative democracy.
00:21:13.000 Well, you know what undermines my confidence in our representative democracy?
00:21:16.000 When there are a bunch of people who are being represented who aren't voters or subject to American law.
00:21:21.000 It turns out that that really undermines my faith in representative democracy.
00:21:26.000 If I and a bunch of my fellow citizens can vote, and we are being represented with exactly the same number of representatives as a bunch of people who come in the country, cannot pay taxes, and cannot vote, I feel like that's a little weird and a little bit of a problem.
00:21:39.000 In fact, it feels like I'm being governed by a group of folks who are actually a political minority in many areas.
00:21:46.000 The Justice Department and the Oversight Committee are essentially on the same trajectory as the Department and the House Judiciary Committee were on last month.
00:21:52.000 The Judiciary Committee voted to hold Attorney General Barr in contempt for failing to turn over materials related to Robert Mueller's probe.
00:21:59.000 In that case, the Judiciary Committee and the Justice Department worked out a compromise.
00:22:02.000 Basically, the Democrats are very, very upset that they believe that there will be political ramifications to the change in the census question.
00:22:10.000 And they're particularly upset about it because, again, if there are changes in the census question, it could have some serious impact on how many Democrats end up in Congress.
00:22:19.000 They are giving credence to every complaint about Democrats not caring about illegal immigration and actively seeking illegal immigration right now.
00:22:26.000 They think that they're making a case against evil Republican racism.
00:22:28.000 What they're actually making a case against is themselves.
00:22:32.000 President Trump is not wrong when he says that Democrats, with their subpoenas, they're out of control, that they are basically just lashing out at everyone on Earth in an attempt to avoid all of the ramifications of their own bad policy.
00:22:48.000 Okay, in just a second, we're gonna get to President Trump, and we're gonna get to Bernie Sanders, who's dropping like a stone in the polls.
00:22:54.000 All it took, apparently, was another quote-unquote Democratic Socialist to rise for Bernie Sanders to fall.
00:22:59.000 We'll get to all that in just a second.
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00:24:12.000 He is in trouble again because somebody on his comms team decided, you know what would be smart?
00:24:17.000 Let's put him in front of George Stephanopoulos at ABC News.
00:24:19.000 How could this one go wrong?
00:24:21.000 Okay, comms team, what are you doing?
00:24:23.000 Why would you do this?
00:24:25.000 Who do you think you are winning over when you put Trump in a room with George Stephanopoulos?
00:24:29.000 George Stephanopoulos is a Clintonista hack.
00:24:31.000 Not only is he a Clintonista hack, he Okay, so now you're putting him in a room with President Trump.
00:24:43.000 I can't imagine how this would go wrong.
00:24:45.000 That in and of itself is a problem.
00:24:46.000 Then you have the problem of President Trump, perhaps the most stubborn man ever to live.
00:24:52.000 Doubling down on his worst impulses.
00:24:54.000 So, I am not a fan, to put it mildly, of the notion that when President Trump was approached by a foreign government, namely the Russian government, and given dirt on Hillary Clinton that he didn't call up the FBI.
00:25:05.000 Now, I will point out here two things.
00:25:06.000 One, that is not illegal.
00:25:08.000 And two, Hillary Clinton did do the same thing with the Ukrainian government.
00:25:11.000 So it is true that the Ukrainian government was trying to pass dirt on President Trump On to Hillary Clinton, and Hillary Clinton's team took it, didn't say anything about it.
00:25:19.000 Now, the Ukrainian government is not militantly opposed to the United States government in the same way that Vladimir Putin is, so there is a distinction there, but Hillary should have reported that too.
00:25:27.000 It is also true that the Steele dossier was largely based, the Steele dossier, which was the basis for a lot of the Trump-Russia collusion charges, and was basically a fantasy made up By a bunch of Russian operatives.
00:25:40.000 Basically, Christopher Steele, this former British spy, went over to Russia, talked to a bunch of Russian government officials, and then funneled that information to the Hillary Clinton campaign.
00:25:49.000 So while you can say the Hillary Clinton campaign got that information not directly from the Russian government, they got it from Christopher Steele, in effect, they were taking Russian government-created Intel that was false about Trump and then disseminating that inside the halls of power in Washington, D.C.
00:26:03.000 and trotting it out to the media as well.
00:26:06.000 So with all of those caveats, the fact that the Trump administration was openly approached by members of the Russian government and allies with the Russian government to take dirt on Hillary Clinton and didn't report it to the FBI was a low point in American politics.
00:26:17.000 It was ugly and it was wrong.
00:26:19.000 There's a difference between illegal and wrong.
00:26:21.000 It is not illegal for a foreign government to say, here's some oppo on your opponent and you take the oppo and you run with it.
00:26:26.000 That's not illegal.
00:26:28.000 It would be illegal if there was a quid pro quo.
00:26:30.000 If you said, okay, I'm going to take the oppo and later I'm going to give you this thing under the table, right?
00:26:34.000 But Eugene Volokh has written, professor of law at UCLA, he wrote a long post at the Washington Post, probably four years ago now, talking specifically about whether it would be illegal if a member of the government of Turkey approached Hillary Clinton with info about Trump for her to use that information.
00:26:34.000 That's bribery.
00:26:48.000 The answer he came up with, and I think that his legal analysis is correct, is no.
00:26:51.000 Now, with that said, would it behoove the President of the United States to simply say, if I am approached by a foreign government with intel about my opponents, I will talk to the FBI about it?
00:27:01.000 Yes, it would, particularly because the President of the United States, you know, he was not, according to the Mueller report, involved in the Trump Tower meeting.
00:27:11.000 He was not apprised of the Trump Tower meeting.
00:27:13.000 He was not in the loop on that thing.
00:27:15.000 So it'd be very easy for him to say, listen, knowing what now, what I, I didn't know then, I was just a guy, right?
00:27:20.000 I was running for president.
00:27:21.000 I didn't know anything.
00:27:23.000 I didn't know this stuff.
00:27:24.000 But now I know, of course I would go to the FBI if somebody approached me on that sort of stuff.
00:27:29.000 You know, you live, you learn.
00:27:30.000 And now I wouldn't do that.
00:27:31.000 Instead, President Trump, who has never met a thing he will not double down upon, he's asked about this and here was his response.
00:27:39.000 Your campaign this time around, if foreigners, if Russia, if China, if someone else offers you information on an opponent, should they accept it or should they call the FBI?
00:27:47.000 I think maybe you do both.
00:27:48.000 I think you might want to listen.
00:27:50.000 There's nothing wrong with listening.
00:27:52.000 If somebody called from a country, Norway, we have information on your opponent.
00:27:59.000 Oh, I think I'd want to hear it.
00:28:00.000 Do you want that kind of interference in our elections?
00:28:02.000 It's not an interference.
00:28:03.000 They have information.
00:28:04.000 I think I'd take it.
00:28:06.000 If I thought there was something wrong, I'd go maybe to the FBI.
00:28:09.000 Okay, and then he continued by saying, well, maybe he wouldn't go to the FBI because no one really wants to go to the FBI.
00:28:15.000 Now, again, what he says on a legal level is basically correct, but on a moral level, it is not obviously correct.
00:28:22.000 And not only is it not obviously correct on a political level, it is very wrong, right?
00:28:25.000 On a political level, you're running for president.
00:28:27.000 You've been enmeshed in this whole, you're colluding with Russia thing for years at this point.
00:28:32.000 Wouldn't you just say no?
00:28:33.000 Wouldn't you just say no?
00:28:34.000 Like, I wouldn't take the information, and also I would pass that along to the FBI.
00:28:38.000 Wouldn't you just say that?
00:28:39.000 It's a weird thing to say.
00:28:41.000 Now, William Barr, the Attorney General, was asked about exactly this subject about a month and a half ago by Chris Coons, the senator from Connecticut?
00:28:50.000 Delaware, from Delaware.
00:28:51.000 And Chris Coons asked Barr about whether you should report it to the FBI if somebody approaches you with information, and here was William Barr, the Attorney General's answer.
00:29:00.000 What if a foreign adversary, let's now say North Korea, offers a presidential candidate dirt on a competitor in 2020?
00:29:07.000 Do you agree with me the campaign should immediately contact the FBI?
00:29:16.000 If a foreign intelligence service, a representative of a foreign government says, we have dirt on your opponent, should they say, I love it, let's meet?
00:29:25.000 Or should they contact the FBI?
00:29:27.000 If a foreign intelligence service does, yes.
00:29:29.000 OK, so Barr makes a distinction there on a legal basis between a foreign intelligence service and a foreign government.
00:29:34.000 Coons basically broadens it out to a foreign government.
00:29:37.000 And people are saying that's Barr giving wiggle room to Trump.
00:29:39.000 And there's two questions here, the legal and the moral.
00:29:42.000 On the legal side, Trump ain't wrong.
00:29:43.000 On the moral side, it is a very dicey proposition at best to be taking information from America's enemies just because they happen to be giving you information about your political opponent.
00:29:52.000 I find it disgusting.
00:29:53.000 I find it wrong.
00:29:54.000 And if Hillary Clinton did it, People on the right would be yelling and screaming about it.
00:29:58.000 If Elizabeth Warren does that, if she gets information from the Chinese government directed against President Trump and just goes ahead and uses it, people are going to be pissed and people are going to have a right to be pissed.
00:30:06.000 So that is wrong of President Trump.
00:30:07.000 We'll get to his response to all of this in just one second.
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00:33:00.000 Okay, so in response to the hubbub created by his comments, President Trump has now gone on a Twitter spate this morning.
00:33:16.000 Ivanka, please take away his phone.
00:33:18.000 He tweeted out, Although the radical left doesn't use the name Russia anymore since the issuance of the Mueller report, House committee now plays a seldom used contempt card on our great AG and Secretary of Commerce, this time on the census.
00:33:30.000 Dems play a much tougher game than the Republicans did when they had the House majority.
00:33:33.000 Republicans will remember.
00:33:34.000 This has already been argued before the U.S.
00:33:36.000 Supreme Court, but the House doesn't want to wait.
00:33:38.000 This is a common thread between all of the committees.
00:33:40.000 Do whatever you can to embarrass the Trump administration, attack the Trump administration, Attorney David Bruno.
00:33:45.000 So true.
00:33:46.000 In the meantime, they're getting no work done on drug pricing, infrastructure, and many other things.
00:33:51.000 All of that is fine.
00:33:52.000 Then he gets to this.
00:33:53.000 I meet and talk to foreign governments every day.
00:33:56.000 I just met with the Queen of England, UK, the Prince of Wales.
00:33:59.000 He spelled it originally W-H-A-L-E-S.
00:34:03.000 So it's good to know that the president is familiar with Aquaman.
00:34:06.000 If we are seriously worried about global warming and the recession of the tides, knowing Aquaman could come in super useful.
00:34:12.000 Later, of course, the president did correct the spelling of the Prince of Wales, but not before it became a meme.
00:34:17.000 The Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, the PM of Ireland, the President of France, the President of Poland.
00:34:22.000 We talked about everything.
00:34:24.000 Should I immediately call the FBI about these calls and meetings?
00:34:26.000 How ridiculous!
00:34:27.000 I would never be trusted again.
00:34:29.000 With that being said, my full answer is rarely played by the fake news media.
00:34:33.000 They purposely leave out the part that matters.
00:34:35.000 Yeah, well, I don't think these are quite the same thing.
00:34:38.000 I mean, you having a conversation with the Prince of Wales?
00:34:41.000 About quote-unquote everything?
00:34:44.000 Not the same thing as the Russian government approaching you with intel about your political opponents.
00:34:47.000 And when people say, you know, who would actually turn over intel about their political opponents?
00:34:51.000 Well, back in 2000, the Al Gore team actually got a hold of George W. Bush's debate prep book and they turned it over to the FBI.
00:34:59.000 So, you know, it actually does happen.
00:35:01.000 It actually does happen.
00:35:03.000 I will say that President Trump, I think that Keeping him away from the reporters at this point would probably be a good idea.
00:35:10.000 Although, I will admit, this is very funny.
00:35:12.000 Yesterday, he was in the Rose Garden, I think, and he was talking to reporters.
00:35:17.000 And he was trying to call on somebody and it went like this.
00:35:20.000 Let's see, who do I like?
00:35:23.000 Nobody, that's the end.
00:35:26.000 Go ahead.
00:35:29.000 Okay, that is indeed very funny.
00:35:31.000 Meanwhile, on the Democratic side of the aisle, Bernie Sanders is dropping like a stone.
00:35:35.000 And he is going down like the Soviet economy circa 1987.
00:35:38.000 It's pretty incredible.
00:35:41.000 Bernie Sanders is now dropping behind Elizabeth Warren in virtually all state polls.
00:35:45.000 He's behind Elizabeth Warren in a Nevada state poll.
00:35:47.000 He's now running behind Elizabeth Warren in a California, UC Berkeley, LA Times poll.
00:35:52.000 It shows Joe Biden at 22%, with Elizabeth Warren at 18%, Bernie Sanders at 17, and Kamala Harris at 13.
00:35:59.000 Kamala Harris, lest you forget, is the actual senator from the state of California, her running fourth.
00:36:04.000 That is really bad news for Kamala Harris.
00:36:06.000 But Sanders continues to drop in the RealClearPolitics polling average, and that is very, very bad news for him.
00:36:13.000 And so Bernie has to sort of reinvigorate his campaign.
00:36:15.000 The problem is everybody's already heard Bernie's pitch.
00:36:17.000 They're looking for something new, something different.
00:36:19.000 Somebody's got a plan.
00:36:20.000 They're looking for Fake Native American, Elizabeth Warren, or something.
00:36:24.000 So Bernie gives a big speech yesterday, in which he talks about democratic socialism, and his pitch is going to be that he is the truest defender of democratic socialism.
00:36:33.000 Now, recall, for most of his career, Bernie was an actual supporter of communists.
00:36:38.000 In not just Norway and Denmark, which are not, in fact, socialist countries, they are capitalist countries with a heavy welfare state, not the same thing.
00:36:45.000 Democratic socialism is simply a way of shoehorning the term socialism into a system that is really driven, in terms of prosperity, by free markets.
00:36:54.000 But Bernie Sanders, flanked by one million American flags, was speaking... I mean, I guess it beats flying the Soviet flag.
00:37:00.000 He was more comfortable there in 88, but now he's running for president.
00:37:04.000 He did a whole speech in which he talked about democratic socialism.
00:37:07.000 He said democratic socialism was the path of justice and love.
00:37:09.000 Because when I think justice and love, I think an octogenarian loon bag who spends all of his days determining how many types of deodorant you should be able to buy.
00:37:17.000 Here's Bernie Sanders making his case.
00:37:19.000 It is my very strong belief that the United States must reject that path of hatred and divisiveness and instead find the moral conviction to choose a different path A higher path, a path of compassion, justice, and love.
00:37:40.000 And that is the path that I call democratic socialism.
00:37:45.000 Yay, justice and love and pudding.
00:37:48.000 Many, many pizza and three beach houses.
00:37:50.000 That is the path.
00:37:51.000 And I'm a millionaire because I wrote the book, so leave me alone.
00:37:54.000 Democratic socialism, where I control everything and call it justice and love.
00:37:59.000 It ain't justice and it ain't love when you're controlling other people's lives.
00:38:03.000 If you love something, set it free, Bernie Sanders, like the economy or other humans.
00:38:07.000 Bernie also suggested that his goal here is to carry the business of the New Deal to completion.
00:38:12.000 This should give the lie to you.
00:38:13.000 Henry Olsen is a columnist over at the Washington Post.
00:38:16.000 He's sort of a Trump-supporting columnist over at the Washington Post.
00:38:19.000 We talked, I think, a couple of podcasts ago about a piece that he wrote in which he explicitly suggested that the job of conservatives was to prune the garden planted by FDR, which is, to me, an insane contention.
00:38:33.000 FDR's garden was a bunch of crap.
00:38:35.000 Okay, FDR's garden led to a second Great Depression from 1936 all the way up to the outbreak of World War II.
00:38:42.000 FDR's garden has led to the bankruptcy of the American government.
00:38:45.000 It has led to a 20 trillion dollar deficit mainly created by programs that he initiated like Social Security.
00:38:52.000 And Bernie Sanders is making the same case as Henry Olsen.
00:38:54.000 That's not great for Henry Olsen.
00:38:55.000 Here's Bernie Sanders saying that he wants to carry the business of the New Deal to completion.
00:38:59.000 For folks who have never studied the New Deal, it is rare to find a more fascistic take on American economics than the New Deal.
00:39:05.000 The New Deal literally had something called the National Recovery Administration, where the government would hand out blue eagles, blue patriotic eagles, to firms that pledged to support FDR's particular brand of economics.
00:39:19.000 Ugly stuff.
00:39:19.000 Here's Bernie Sanders talking about how the New Deal must be fulfilled so we can have, I assume, another Great Depression.
00:39:24.000 That'd be great.
00:39:26.000 Over 80 years ago, Franklin Delano Roosevelt helped create a government that made transformative progress in protecting the needs of working families.
00:39:39.000 Today, in the second decade of the 21st century, we must take up the unfinished business of the New Deal and carry it to completion.
00:39:53.000 OK, so if you want to carry the business of the New Deal to completion, then good news.
00:40:00.000 He's not going to make America great again.
00:40:02.000 He's going to make the Great Depression great again.
00:40:04.000 So that's exciting stuff.
00:40:05.000 So that is Bernie's pitch.
00:40:07.000 Meanwhile, Joe Biden, who's trying to separate himself off from Bernie Sanders, right?
00:40:11.000 Supposedly, Bernie Sanders is on the left wing of the party and Joe Biden is in the mainstream of the party.
00:40:15.000 These two wings are merging.
00:40:17.000 And this is the problem for Joe Biden.
00:40:19.000 So Joe Biden wants to run as old Joe.
00:40:21.000 Old, reliable Joe.
00:40:23.000 And Joe ain't going to scare you.
00:40:25.000 He's not going to scare you.
00:40:26.000 He's just in the grand American tradition.
00:40:29.000 Well, Biden was asked yesterday about whether he was on the same page as Bernie Sanders.
00:40:34.000 And he was like, well, yeah, of course I am.
00:40:36.000 Sure.
00:40:36.000 Why not?
00:40:38.000 Look, I just think we got a lot of really good candidates out there, and they're making the case, and I don't put a whole lot in terms of labels.
00:40:46.000 I just think that if you think about it, the vast majority of the members that are running, the folks that are running, they're all kind of on the same page.
00:40:55.000 I'm not going to comment on Bernie's characterization of who or what he is.
00:41:00.000 He's sincere about what he thinks, and I think he should go out and say it.
00:41:04.000 Okay, so I'm not gonna go after Bernie.
00:41:06.000 He's sincere.
00:41:07.000 We're all on the same page, guys.
00:41:09.000 Okay, if Joe Biden's on the same page as Bernie Sanders, why should he be president?
00:41:12.000 Really, what's his pitch exactly?
00:41:14.000 You wonder why Elizabeth Warren is rising?
00:41:16.000 It's because Joe Biden can't explain why he wants to be president, and Bernie Sanders seems even kookier than Elizabeth Warren.
00:41:22.000 Joe Biden's pitch, by the way, is not a particularly attractive pitch.
00:41:24.000 He says that his first move as president of the United States will be to raise your taxes.
00:41:28.000 This is from the so-called moderate.
00:41:29.000 Tax-cutting tax.
00:41:32.000 For multimillionaires and billionaires.
00:41:35.000 Guess what?
00:41:36.000 When I'm president, it's gone.
00:41:38.000 It's gone, guys.
00:41:39.000 When I'm president, your tax cuts, they're gone.
00:41:42.000 Now, he tells a lie right there.
00:41:44.000 An open and obvious lie.
00:41:46.000 The lie being that it's mostly for millionaires and billionaires.
00:41:49.000 Okay, I can express to you, as a person who makes a lot of money in the state of California, I got destroyed on taxes last year.
00:41:56.000 The Trump tax cut actually destroyed everyone who is a high earner in liberal-leaning states with high tax rates.
00:42:02.000 The fact is, 80% of Americans saw a tax cut, and the vast majority of those people are not in the top 1% or in the top 10%.
00:42:09.000 But Joe Biden is going to raise your taxes.
00:42:11.000 It's a bold move, Cotton.
00:42:12.000 We'll see how it goes for him.
00:42:13.000 Also, Joe Biden's pitch is that for eight years, there was no hint of a scandal or lie in the Obama administration.
00:42:19.000 We'll see how this one goes over, too.
00:42:21.000 It's fascinating how Biden has really avoided talking about the Obama administration when he does.
00:42:25.000 It's in these very broad terms about how great things were under Barack Obama.
00:42:28.000 Weren't they just awesome?
00:42:30.000 Sure, we won't talk about the incredibly slow economic recovery or the fact that the Obama administration set the Middle East on fire.
00:42:36.000 Sure, we're not going to talk about the fact that it was an incredibly polarizing administration on both politics and culture.
00:42:42.000 We won't talk about any of those things.
00:42:43.000 No, it was it was just it was wonderful.
00:42:45.000 It was basically utopia.
00:42:47.000 Don't you remember?
00:42:48.000 Like five years ago, it was utopia.
00:42:50.000 Riots in Ferguson.
00:42:51.000 It was utopia, guys.
00:42:52.000 Stop that.
00:42:52.000 Utopia, according to Joe Biden.
00:42:54.000 I was most proud of.
00:42:56.000 For eight years, there wasn't one single Really?
00:43:04.000 Not a hint?
00:43:05.000 Any hint?
00:43:05.000 I wrote a whole book about the various scandals of the Obama administration.
00:43:08.000 You can go check it out.
00:43:09.000 It's called The People vs. Barack Obama.
00:43:11.000 It's a whole book.
00:43:12.000 The good news for Joe Biden and many other Democrats is that as long as you have acolytes like Joy Behar, you'll be fine.
00:43:17.000 So Joy Behar, over on The View, made what I think is one of the dumbest comments I have ever heard.
00:43:22.000 So Joe Biden has been going around proclaiming that if he is elected president, he will do a couple of things.
00:43:26.000 He will raise your taxes and also he'll cure cancer.
00:43:29.000 Not sure how he's going to do that.
00:43:30.000 Second thing.
00:43:32.000 So Joe Biden's plan goes something like this.
00:43:37.000 That's the plan.
00:43:42.000 But Joy Behar is already making excuses for why Joe Biden may not actually be able to cure cancer.
00:43:48.000 Those excuses do not include that it's very hard to cure cancer, since cancer is, in fact, a bucket of different things.
00:43:54.000 It doesn't include the fact that we've been trying to cure cancer for decades, and we have made some progress, but not tremendous progress.
00:44:01.000 The real problem, according to Joy Behar, is that if Joe Biden becomes president and wants to cure cancer, it may be too late because it flips through deck.
00:44:08.000 Global warming.
00:44:10.000 Really, this is a thing a human said.
00:44:13.000 I would say that curing cancer is going to be much more difficult when there's so much climate change and pollutants in the environment, because a lot of cancer is environmentally caused.
00:44:22.000 And this president rolls back anything that will clean the air.
00:44:26.000 So they're working against each other if they don't also clean up the emissions.
00:44:31.000 Okay, so what now?
00:44:33.000 Does she understand how cures work?
00:44:35.000 Like, if you cure tuberculosis, then you've cured the disease.
00:44:40.000 If you are curing cancer, then presumably you are curing the disease that is cancer.
00:44:45.000 And even if it's caused, you now have a cure.
00:44:48.000 But that's... Also, global warming doesn't have to... Global warming doesn't cause cancer.
00:44:53.000 If you're talking about emissions that cause cancer, then you would be talking about, you know, pollutants in the air.
00:44:58.000 Like, somebody is spewing ash into the air and this causes lung cancer or something.
00:45:02.000 Man, when you have people making excuses like that, put her on the stump, man.
00:45:06.000 She's fantastic.
00:45:07.000 And meanwhile, the Democrats are growing more and more nasty and radical by the day on social issues.
00:45:12.000 I remember a time when the case for the gay rights movement was basically, leave us alone so that we could do what we want.
00:45:18.000 And everybody was kind of like, Okay.
00:45:21.000 Sure.
00:45:22.000 Makes sense.
00:45:22.000 And then it was, okay, well, we want the same government benefits as married couples.
00:45:25.000 And people were like, well, not so sure about that one since married couples, heterosexual married couples actually, you know, are in the business of producing children.
00:45:32.000 And then heterosexual marriage is really about the production and rearing of children.
00:45:35.000 So there are different societal benefits to that than just two people who love each other living together.
00:45:39.000 But I guess, okay.
00:45:41.000 And then they were like, well, we don't want gay marriage, but now we want gay marriage.
00:45:44.000 So if you can just call it marriage, then we'll be cool.
00:45:47.000 We'll never bother you again.
00:45:48.000 And everybody was like, Well, you know, not so hot on this one, but maybe if the government stays out of the business of marriage, and maybe if you sort of leave us alone, we'll learn to live with it.
00:45:57.000 All right, I guess.
00:45:59.000 And then, now the new push is, we need to fly the gay pride flag above the U.S.
00:46:03.000 embassy.
00:46:04.000 Where did, what?
00:46:05.000 Now?
00:46:06.000 So your pitch is, That something that your original case was, leave us alone so we can engage in the private consensual behavior we like.
00:46:14.000 That went to, we need you to celebrate that private consensual behavior on a flag on the top of the United States Embassy in Lake Botswana.
00:46:23.000 What in the actual F?
00:46:25.000 What in the world?
00:46:26.000 So, Mike Pence was asked about this, the Vice President, because he put out an edict, basically, or he was asked to defend an edict put out by the Trump administration, that at the U.S.
00:46:33.000 Embassy, we should fly the, wait for it, the U.S.
00:46:36.000 flag.
00:46:37.000 I know, crazy idea, right?
00:46:38.000 Like, because it's the United States, so the flag we should fly, it shouldn't be like the gay pride flag, or like a Christian flag, or a Planned Parenthood flag.
00:46:46.000 It should probably just be like the United States flag.
00:46:48.000 So Pence was asked about this, and here's what he said.
00:46:50.000 The administration directs U.S.
00:46:52.000 embassies not to fly the pride flag.
00:46:56.000 I'm aware that the State Department indicated that on the flagpole of our American embassies that one flag should fly and that's the American flag and I support that.
00:47:06.000 To the LGBTQ community who feels as though that runs counter to the president celebrating Pride Month in his tweet.
00:47:12.000 When it comes to the American flagpole at American embassies and capitals around the world, having the one American flag fly, I think, is the right decision.
00:47:21.000 Why is this remotely controversial?
00:47:24.000 I'm so confused.
00:47:25.000 But Sarah Silverman found it controversial.
00:47:27.000 So I can't do a Sarah Silverman voice because no one actually has a voice that high.
00:47:31.000 whole shtick is to do this cutesy voice and then curse.
00:47:34.000 So she said, dear VP, you're a hate mongering, fear-based weasel.
00:47:37.000 And your biggest irony is that if there was hell, you'd a hundred percent be going there.
00:47:40.000 I'm not sure like Sarah McLaughlin, if she knows what irony means, because I hope you go to prison for crimes against humanity regarding the LGBT community.
00:47:47.000 Remember this started with private consensual behavior should be left alone by the government.
00:47:51.000 And now it's, you should go to prison.
00:47:52.000 If you don't want to fly a gay pride flag at the USSR.
00:47:54.000 Embassy.
00:47:55.000 That's where we have come to.
00:47:57.000 Guys, I'm pretty sure that the fascists are not the conservatives here.
00:48:01.000 She has women's rights and the babies you rip from the arms of parents seeking our help.
00:48:03.000 What a delight Sarah Silverman is.
00:48:05.000 So we've now reached the point where I think frankly that we should remove the American flag patches from American soldiers shoulders.
00:48:12.000 And now when they go into battle against like the Taliban, they should wear, it's gay pride month, they should wear a gay pride flag.
00:48:17.000 They should know what they're fighting for.
00:48:18.000 And then when it's breast cancer awareness month, they should wear a breast cancer awareness flag so that when a Taliban soldier is getting his brains shot out, he should know that we here in the United States, we hate breast cancer and we will fight breast cancer with every last vestige of our strength and ability.
00:48:32.000 Yes, the country may be too stupid for repair.
00:48:35.000 All right, time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.
00:48:39.000 So, things that I like.
00:48:40.000 Douglas Carswell was one of the leaders of the Brexit movement.
00:48:43.000 He has a brand new book that is coming out, I believe you can already buy it, called Progress vs. Parasites.
00:48:48.000 We'll have him on the show next month probably to talk about it, at least the radio show.
00:48:52.000 The book is really good.
00:48:53.000 It's called Progress vs. Parasites, a brief history of the conflict that shaped our world.
00:48:57.000 It covers an enormous amount of ground.
00:48:59.000 It really does talk about why it is that certain areas of the world thrive and other areas of the world do not.
00:49:04.000 His basic thesis is that when you have a Mandarin class, when you have a group of people who sit atop a government, who are taking All of the gains of a particular country and centralizing it in that body for either redistribution or for political purposes, it ends up sapping the will and sapping the entrepreneurship inside that society.
00:49:22.000 And he traces that pattern throughout history, not just sticking to the West, but moving around the world.
00:49:28.000 The book is a really good, kind of fun historical read.
00:49:30.000 Go check it out.
00:49:31.000 Douglas Carswell's Progress vs. Parasites.
00:49:33.000 You can go get that at Amazon right now.
00:49:35.000 Okay, time for a quick thing that I hate.
00:49:41.000 All right.
00:49:41.000 So the thing that I hate today, so Bill Maher, he has crafted this weird sort of conspiracy theory.
00:49:46.000 So I was on Maher's show last year and Maher asked me about the Russia collusion stuff.
00:49:52.000 And I said, listen, if you prove that Trump colluded with Russia, meaning if you prove that Trump was in a conspiracy with Russia to thwart our elections, then impeachment should be on the table.
00:50:00.000 I said that to Maher.
00:50:01.000 I said, I don't see any evidence of that now.
00:50:03.000 And I don't think any evidence of that is going to actually come forward.
00:50:06.000 I was right.
00:50:07.000 Now, Bill Maher has moved on to another conspiracy theory.
00:50:10.000 He said he couldn't believe it.
00:50:11.000 He said, you don't believe that Trump colluded with Russia?
00:50:14.000 And I was like, no, because I don't see the evidence of it.
00:50:16.000 If you show me the evidence, then maybe?
00:50:18.000 And Bill Maher was like, I can't believe that you don't believe that.
00:50:21.000 You're an otherwise smart person.
00:50:23.000 So Bill Maher was on CNN with, I believe, Chris Cuomo here.
00:50:28.000 And he says, his new theory is that if President Trump is defeated in 2020, He won't go, like Jennifer Hudson from Dreamgirls.
00:50:41.000 He will just stick around.
00:50:42.000 He's telling you he's not going.
00:50:43.000 So here's Bill Maher explaining his new conspiracy theory, which is that Trump is going to, I guess, wedge himself into the Oval Office with superglue, and then dare people to carry him out.
00:50:54.000 If he loses, Trump, he won't go.
00:50:57.000 I've been saying that since before he got elected, that if he loses the second time, if he loses the coming election, And Michael Cohen said that, Nancy Pelosi echoed, said that.
00:51:08.000 A lot of people say, well, yes, it can happen here, meaning fascism, meaning something other than what we—is democracy.
00:51:15.000 Now, I think we're already there.
00:51:17.000 You know, I have a dictator checklist that I read on my show sometimes, things that no American president has ever done, but this president does.
00:51:25.000 This is banana republic.
00:51:26.000 So you think he wouldn't leave?
00:51:28.000 That is one of them.
00:51:28.000 I absolutely think he will not leave.
00:51:31.000 Oh, so what will he do?
00:51:32.000 Do you think the U.S.
00:51:33.000 military is just going to station itself around the White House to prevent him from leaving?
00:51:36.000 Is that what Bill Maher thinks?
00:51:37.000 This is such conspiratorial tripping.
00:51:40.000 It's so funny.
00:51:41.000 All the same people who are claiming that Donald Trump will not leave if he loses an election are still claiming that Stacey Abrams is the legitimate governor of Georgia.
00:51:49.000 All of them.
00:51:50.000 So, all right.
00:51:50.000 I mean, if this is where, if you're so far gone that your new shtick is that Donald Trump will not be ejected from the Oval Office, that what, he'll set up like squatters rights in the Oval Office?
00:52:00.000 If he's not elected in 2020?
00:52:02.000 Oh my goodness.
00:52:03.000 Creating Phantom Trump in your mind is what's going to lead to his election victory if he wins, truly.
00:52:08.000 The idea that Trump is Hitler, he's the worst person who ever lived, he's a dictator.
00:52:12.000 Most Americans look at that, who have a brain, and they say, well, I'm not really seeing that so much.
00:52:17.000 You can oversell here.
00:52:19.000 And I think that the Democrats and many in the media are overselling.
00:52:22.000 All right.
00:52:23.000 We'll be back here later today with two additional hours of programming.
00:52:25.000 So we will see you then.
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