The Ben Shapiro Show - August 17, 2023


Conservatives CAN Win, and Target’s Earnings Prove It


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49 minutes

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213.9691

Word Count

10,620

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715

Misogynist Sentences

11

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

In this episode of the podcast, host Alex Blumbergert talks about the impact of the latest midterm elections and the impact on consumer spending on the economy. He also talks about a new report from the Wall Street Journal on Target s disappointing sales numbers for the second quarter and the implications for the future of the retailer. And then, he takes a look at the impact that President Trump's unpopularity has had on the stock market, and how that could have a negative impact on the company's sales and profits. Finally, he talks about why it's important to remember that a lot of what s going on in the economy isn't about the economy, it's about politics and the way that politicians use it to advance their agenda and get their message out there to the public. It's time to turn it all on its head and focus on what's really going on, and that's what's going on at Target and other retailers across the U.S. Today's episode is a special bonus episode featuring some of Alex's favorite segments of the show, and some of his favorite segments from the news and his favorite places to listen to the latest episode of The FiveThirtyEight podcast. Enjoy and spread the word to your friends and family about this episode! Alex Bergert's new book, Rules for Radicals: The New Normal: How to Win at Work and Win at the Same Time as President Trump, Outrageous Politics, out there on Amazon, Outtro: How Conservative Candidates Are Winning the 2020 election, out now and What's Happening in 2020, out in 2020 and 2020, and what's Next, we'll be doing in 2020. Alex talks about how to win at Target, Target, Bud Light, and more, and why you should be buying more Target, not less Target, and much more! - Alex talks all things that matter to you, not more Target. - and more. Subscribe to our new podcast, including the latest news and more! Subscribe to stay up to date with our newest episodes of Outtro, including our newest episode of Outposted, Outposting, Outfront, and the latest in Outtrope, out and Out and Out of Bounds, and Outward, out of Bricks! - Subscribe to Out and Down, Out and Bricks, out! Subscribe and Out! Learn more about your ad-free version of Out and out and out, and get the inside scoop on all that's going to be more like it!


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00:00:00.000 So, there's a lot of talk these days about whether conservatives can win anymore.
00:00:04.000 And that's serious talk, considering that Republicans haven't won the popular vote in any presidential election since 2004, and before that, since 1988.
00:00:14.000 It's been a very long time since Republicans regularly won popular votes in the presidential election.
00:00:20.000 And when you look at how Republicans ran in the latest round of Senate races, they really underran where their numbers should have been.
00:00:26.000 In the latest House races, they should have walked away with a far broader House majority.
00:00:30.000 So there's always this serious question about whether conservatives can win.
00:00:33.000 And the answer is yes.
00:00:34.000 But in order to win, conservatives have to really follow the rules of Saul Alinsky.
00:00:40.000 Because those rules work.
00:00:41.000 Saul Alinsky, of course, was the community activist in Chicago who basically provided the ideological foundation for people like Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
00:00:49.000 He wrote a book called Rules for Radicals in 1971, talking about how you go after your political opposition.
00:00:56.000 And one of the things that he said is you have to personalize every issue, and you have to polarize every issue, and you have to put your enemy on the wrong side of that polarization.
00:01:05.000 That is basically the goal.
00:01:07.000 What you don't want to do is make it easy for your enemy to polarize you.
00:01:11.000 What you want to do is make it hard for your enemy to make you the target and make it really easy for your enemy to be the target.
00:01:16.000 That is the way you actually win.
00:01:19.000 And Republicans, conservatives, have shown that they can win when they actually follow that rule, when they actually personalize and polarize.
00:01:24.000 And that's what they did with, for example, Target.
00:01:27.000 So, fascinating report out from the Wall Street Journal.
00:01:29.000 Title, Target, much like Bud Light, is stung by culture wars.
00:01:33.000 Target discovered the cost of getting caught in the middle of hot button social issues in a politically divided United States.
00:01:38.000 Sales at both businesses, from Target to Bud Light, suffered over marketing efforts that backfired and caused shoppers on both sides of the topics to call for boycotts.
00:01:46.000 Anheuser-Busch came under fire for a social media promotion with a transgender influencer.
00:01:50.000 Target was criticized for store displays of merchandise for Pride Month that included gender-neutral swimsuits.
00:01:55.000 Then, when each company sort of backed off its original point, the LGBTQ plus-divided-by-sign community decided that they were going to boycott.
00:02:01.000 In return, Target said chopper backlash over its Pride Month collection as well as cautious consumers pushed sales sharply lower in the most recent quarter.
00:02:09.000 The retailer said it expects sales to decline again in the current quarter and lowered its profit goal for the full year.
00:02:14.000 Executives said they would still mark Pride Month next year but with a more focused assortment of merchandise.
00:02:18.000 So that would be a conservative win.
00:02:21.000 That is a major corporation that is backing off of much of its social push for wild leftism.
00:02:28.000 Again, if you look at Target's sales change year over year, what you find is in first quarter of 2022, they had about a 3% increase in sales over the prior year.
00:02:39.000 In second quarter of 2022, about 2%.
00:02:42.000 Third quarter, over 2%.
00:02:44.000 Fourth quarter, they were down to about 0.5%.
00:02:46.000 First quarter of 2023, they were about 0%, pretty much flat.
00:02:50.000 And then, second quarter, absolute collapse.
00:02:52.000 You see an almost negative 6% growth rate.
00:02:56.000 Over the prior year, which means a massive sales drop-off.
00:03:00.000 The stock had fallen about 16% this year through Tuesday's close.
00:03:04.000 Backlash surrounding the Pride collection aided sales, particularly in June after Target started selling the annual collection.
00:03:09.000 Sales recovered steadily in July, according to Brian Cornell, who's Target's longtime chief executive.
00:03:14.000 He said multiple economic cross-currents are putting pressure on consumers.
00:03:18.000 At Target, shoppers continue to spend less on apparel, home goods, and other discretionary items in the midst of high prices for food and other essentials.
00:03:23.000 So part of this is Joe Biden's inflationary economy, but a lot of this actually is politics.
00:03:30.000 And the way that you can tell that is because retail rival TJX, which owns TJ Maxx, Marshalls, and HomeGoods, actually saw a 6% jump in comparable sales in the same quarter and raised its sales growth at profit targets for the year.
00:03:41.000 So in other words, a bunch of people who were going to Target instead went to TJ Maxx, Marshalls, and HomeGoods.
00:03:45.000 By the way, my family is one of those families.
00:03:47.000 We used to go to Target almost every Sunday to pick up, you know, necessary household items.
00:03:51.000 We stopped going there and went to Walmart instead.
00:03:54.000 In May, Target offered Pride products for sales it has for the past 10 years.
00:03:56.000 But this time, they decided to go with a very aggressive Pride display that was targeting children.
00:04:02.000 And consumers reacted.
00:04:04.000 And that consumer reaction tanked their sales.
00:04:06.000 And here is the thing.
00:04:07.000 In politics, in markets, it doesn't take a mass movement in order to effectuate change.
00:04:12.000 All it requires is a concerted core of people who are willing to take a hard stand And a bunch of people who are kind of wavering.
00:04:20.000 That's all it really takes.
00:04:21.000 And this should be a lesson going forward for Republicans.
00:04:24.000 Pick particularly popular causes and then polarize those causes.
00:04:28.000 Make clear what the left's perspective on those causes is and wrong-foot the left.
00:04:32.000 And the left is perfectly willing to step into it because the left is right now engorged by its own power.
00:04:38.000 The left actually believes that it can do pretty much anything in the United States specifically because they've won so many elections in a row or done better than expected in so many elections in a row.
00:04:47.000 But the thing that Republicans can't do is make it hard for the center person, for the independent, for even maybe the slightly left-leaning person to even look at them and think about voting for them or think about backing their cause.
00:05:00.000 And one of the things that Governor Ron DeSantis did in Florida that he hasn't been doing in the national race so far.
00:05:05.000 In Florida, there are a bunch of DeSantis Democrats.
00:05:07.000 Those are people who are very happy with the way he ran the state because he took a really common sense driven perspective with regard to COVID, with regard to education.
00:05:15.000 These are all popular issues in the state of Florida.
00:05:17.000 Now, on the national level, he kind of ran as Trump-lite.
00:05:20.000 He took many of the most polarizing social issues, and he decided that he was going to run almost solely on those, as opposed to the solid governance in the state of Florida that actually made him quite popular with Democrats in the state of Florida.
00:05:30.000 There was no need for that.
00:05:31.000 And now it looks like DeSantis may be shifting his campaign away from the sort of Trump-lite approach, which is a little late, but necessary, obviously.
00:05:40.000 It's why you're also seeing some popular upswing among some Republicans for people like Glenn Youngkin in Virginia, or Brian Kemp in Georgia.
00:05:47.000 And a lot of this has to do with the idea that if Republicans and conservatives wish to win, they need to pick issues that are popular, and then they need to run on those issues.
00:05:55.000 All of this raises the serious question as to what Republicans are going to do in the 2024 race.
00:06:00.000 Because if they decide to once again hitch their wagon to the 2020 election horse, that does not seem like a particularly smart strategy.
00:06:09.000 Whatever sympathy you have for President Trump as a human being who's been put under pressure by dozens of indictments, virtually all of them on specious charges, You can feel that sympathy and you can still understand that talking about that endlessly for the next couple of years is not going to result in victory for Republicans.
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00:07:31.000 Now again, I feel the sympathy for Trump the same that you do, and I particularly feel that sympathy when you can feel Democrats trolling.
00:07:37.000 Hillary Clinton was on with Rachel Maddow the other night and she did a full-scale 2016 elections in aisle routine.
00:07:45.000 This sort of stuff, it's this sort of stuff that really gets the goat of conservatives and leads them to want to throw the orange middle finger.
00:07:51.000 I totally get it.
00:07:52.000 Here is Hillary Clinton last night.
00:07:55.000 He certainly interfered in our election.
00:07:59.000 And it was clear he interfered to hurt me and to help my opponent.
00:08:03.000 Unprecedented interference.
00:08:05.000 I was on the way to winning.
00:08:06.000 We know that Putin was intent upon helping Trump.
00:08:11.000 That's no longer subject to debate.
00:08:13.000 The interference with the election.
00:08:17.000 Virginia just stopped using touchscreen computer voting because it's so vulnerable.
00:08:22.000 You can run the best campaign You can even become the nominee.
00:08:27.000 And you can have the election stolen from you.
00:08:30.000 He knows that he's an illegitimate president.
00:08:34.000 Election denial after election denial after election denial from Hillary Clinton for literally years on end.
00:08:39.000 And no one seemed to care about that.
00:08:41.000 That was perfectly legitimate.
00:08:42.000 Not only was it legitimate, it launched a thousand legal cases against Donald Trump.
00:08:45.000 The Mueller report was specifically based on the idea that Democrats could not handle the idea that Hillary Clinton had lost the election.
00:08:51.000 There's a perfectly plausible solution as to why Hillary lost in 2016.
00:08:54.000 She was one of the worst candidates in American history.
00:08:57.000 The proof is that she lost to Donald Trump, who is the second least popular candidate in America at that point.
00:09:03.000 Hillary was the least popular and Trump was the second least popular.
00:09:06.000 I mean, that's how bad she was, but they decided instead she must not have lost, and so they launched a bunch of legal cases against Trump and investigations based on specious nonsense.
00:09:16.000 And now, of course, Trump is facing serious charges across a wide range of jurisdictions, and those are going to bog him down for legitimately the entirety of the election cycle.
00:09:26.000 I mean, when you look at the slate of cases that he is facing, it's gonna be a full-scale disaster area for him.
00:09:33.000 I mean, forget about whether he goes to jail or not.
00:09:36.000 Just in terms of the politics, just in terms of the money.
00:09:38.000 Think about the legal bills here.
00:09:39.000 And here is his current calendar.
00:09:41.000 Right now, here are the cases that are calendared.
00:09:43.000 He has the New York Manhattan nonsense case about hush money payments to Stormy Daniels.
00:09:48.000 That trial is scheduled to begin March 25th, 2024.
00:09:52.000 Meanwhile, the classified documents case is slated to begin May 20th, 2024, right in the middle of the election cycle.
00:09:59.000 We still don't have a date on the Washington DC case regarding January 6th and the lead up to January 6th from Jack Smith, but he has proposed January 2nd, 2024, which is just two weeks before the Iowa presidential caucuses.
00:10:12.000 And Fannie Willis wants to launch her case presumably within six months of the indictment, she says, which would put it smack dab in February of 2024.
00:10:19.000 So just to look at his calendar, that is a stacked 2024 calendar for the presidents of the United States.
00:10:24.000 That is a calendar that starts with a legal case In DC in January, a legal case in Georgia in February, a legal case in New York in March, and a legal case in Florida in May.
00:10:37.000 That's going to be the entirety of the year.
00:10:39.000 Each one of those cases is going to take months at a minimum.
00:10:43.000 Donald Trump is going to be consumed with that day and night.
00:10:45.000 He's consumed with it right now and they haven't even launched the trials yet.
00:10:50.000 So here is the question.
00:10:51.000 What is the evidence that this is going to benefit Republicans?
00:10:55.000 Again, you can have as much sympathy as you want for President Trump, and I feel a lot of the same sympathy.
00:10:58.000 I just don't understand why that is the case for nominating him for the presidency, given the data that we do have.
00:11:04.000 There's a poll out today, and it shows that, again, Donald Trump is soaring among Republicans.
00:11:10.000 63% of Republicans now say they want the former president to run again, according to new polling from the AP.
00:11:15.000 That is up slightly from 55% who said the same in April when Trump began facing a series of criminal charges.
00:11:19.000 7 in 10 Republicans now have a favorable opinion of Trump, an uptick from the 60% who said so two months ago.
00:11:25.000 By the way, those numbers are not enough to win re-election.
00:11:27.000 If only 7 in 10 Republicans actually like you, that is a major problem.
00:11:30.000 That is a major red flag.
00:11:33.000 If Joe Biden were facing an approval rating among Democrats of 60 or 70%, which is what Trump is looking at right now, that would be a disaster area for him.
00:11:39.000 But here is the problem.
00:11:40.000 Once you get to the general election, The vote, it's not just a matter of getting out the base.
00:11:45.000 The base isn't large enough for Donald Trump.
00:11:47.000 The base for Donald Trump is maybe 40% of the population at its height.
00:11:50.000 You can get all those people out to vote.
00:11:53.000 They can only vote once.
00:11:54.000 You're still gonna need another 5 or 6% of voters, minimum, to even get you in competitive range.
00:11:59.000 That gets you in competitive range in the Electoral College.
00:12:01.000 If he's at 46%, that is competitive in the Electoral College, maybe.
00:12:05.000 To win, he really needs more like 48%.
00:12:06.000 So where's that other 8% gonna come from?
00:12:09.000 It would have to theoretically come from independents or Democrats dissatisfied with Joe Biden.
00:12:14.000 But here is the problem.
00:12:15.000 Look at those poll numbers.
00:12:17.000 74% of Republicans say they would support him in November 2024.
00:12:19.000 That number itself is way too low.
00:12:22.000 That means a full quarter of Republicans would sit it out rather than vote for Trump in 2024.
00:12:27.000 53% of Americans say they would definitely not support him if he is the nominee, which means the election is over if that stat is real.
00:12:35.000 If a pure majority of Americans say they will never vote for you under any circumstances, how do you win?
00:12:41.000 You can't lose 53% of the vote and win a national election.
00:12:45.000 Another 11% said they probably would not support him in November of 2024, which leads to 64% of Americans saying that they certainly would not or probably would not vote for Donald Trump in November 2024.
00:12:57.000 So what is the case that this is suddenly going to turn based on the indictments?
00:13:01.000 That the more we talk about the indictments and the injustice of the indictments, which is true, the more we talk about that, the more people will rally to Donald Trump's cause.
00:13:09.000 That seems like echo chamber kind of stuff to me.
00:13:12.000 And there are some people who are in my industry who are going to fib to you and tell you that the more you talk about this, the more popular Donald Trump will become.
00:13:19.000 I do not see the evidence of that.
00:13:20.000 If that were the evidence, I would tell you.
00:13:22.000 I promise you.
00:13:23.000 Because I would like to see a Republican replace Joe Biden, and if that Republican is Donald Trump, that's fine.
00:13:28.000 But the problem that I have is that I don't see that in the data.
00:13:31.000 And I think it's very easy for people to blind themselves to reality because their feelings on these topics are so strong.
00:13:39.000 By the way, this is going to have serious down-ballot effects too.
00:13:42.000 Okay, lest we forget, Donald Trump didn't just lose the 2020 election.
00:13:46.000 He also led to additional losses in places like Georgia in 2021.
00:13:50.000 Georgia is a red state.
00:13:52.000 It is a red state.
00:13:52.000 How do I know?
00:13:53.000 Because Brian Kemp crushed Stacey Abrams in his last gubernatorial run.
00:13:56.000 The legislature in Georgia is red.
00:13:58.000 And yet it has two Democratic senators.
00:14:00.000 Why?
00:14:01.000 Because Donald Trump was a drag on the senatorial ballot.
00:14:04.000 He was a massive drag, not just in 2021, but also in 2022.
00:14:07.000 When he handpicked Herschel Walker and then Herschel Walker ran basically on 2020.
00:14:11.000 And it turns out people don't like that sort of stuff.
00:14:14.000 It also turns out that the people of Georgia are not particularly interested in hearing that the election was stolen, and that they don't know how to run an election in Georgia.
00:14:22.000 So, I understand why people are angry at Mike Pence, because they believe that Pence should be standing stronger with Trump against legal indictments.
00:14:28.000 I also understand Mike Pence's view on some of this stuff, which is, well, I was the one that Donald Trump was saying could stop the election from actually being certified, which is false, and then people were threatening to kill me, so I'm not super hot on that.
00:14:41.000 But when Mike Pence says the Georgia election was not stolen, He happens to be correct.
00:14:46.000 The evidence is not there.
00:14:47.000 Now Donald Trump says he's going to present a slate of new evidence on Monday.
00:14:50.000 Now as I think, I don't think he actually is going to present a slate of brand new evidence that totally shakes things up.
00:14:54.000 I think he's going to present an awful lot of speculation and rewarmed sort of microwavable leftovers that have already been examined.
00:15:03.000 None of these things have been filed in court.
00:15:05.000 What that really is more about is establishing that he doesn't have requisite intent to commit the crime that he is being charged with in the state of Georgia.
00:15:12.000 He's gonna say, I legitimately believed I was deprived of the election, even if I'm wrong, it's what I legitimately believe, right?
00:15:16.000 That's really what Monday, I think, is more about.
00:15:19.000 Suffice it to say, I'm not sure that you can win Georgia as a presidential candidate after saying over and over and over that every election in the state of Georgia is rigged against you.
00:15:27.000 And ripping on the popular governor of the state of Georgia in the process, trying to primary him with David Perdue, who then got wiped out by like 40 points in the primaries.
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00:16:39.000 Okay, so Mike Pence yesterday came out and he suggested that the Georgia election was
00:16:44.000 not stolen.
00:16:46.000 This should not be a matter of massive public controversy at this point.
00:16:49.000 I'm sorry, it really should not.
00:16:50.000 In fact, the Georgia Secretary of State literally went and asked, through the vote, which are the people behind 2,000 mules, they asked them for the evidence of the charges that they had been constantly making, and through the vote asked them to stop asking.
00:17:03.000 Okay, so here's Mike Pence saying the thing that you're not supposed to say, apparently.
00:17:08.000 Despite what the former president and his allies have said for now more than two and a half years, the Georgia election was not stolen, and I had no right to overturn the election on January 6th.
00:17:20.000 He happens to be correct about that.
00:17:22.000 But here's the even more important thing.
00:17:24.000 A president who keeps saying over and over that Georgia steals elections is not likely to do amazing in elections, especially because Republican voters in Georgia may say, well, if the election is going to get stolen anyway, why do I bother going to the polls?
00:17:34.000 Again, the one question that Trump really has not answered to, I think, anyone's satisfaction if they're watching is, you say the last election was stolen.
00:17:40.000 You won, but it was stolen from you.
00:17:42.000 How do you plan on preventing that this time?
00:17:45.000 Every candidate you put up for Secretary of State in the various states lost.
00:17:47.000 So, how do you actually plan on stopping the steal this time if it's about stopping the steal?
00:17:52.000 Trump just says, we'll stop it.
00:17:55.000 But at some point, if you make a claim that the election was stolen, you should have a plan to stop all of that.
00:18:00.000 The problem is that these sorts of claims are not just RIPPING APART THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AT A NATIONAL LEVEL IN TERMS OF WHO THEY NOMINATE.
00:18:08.000 THEY'RE RIPPING APART STATE PARTIES.
00:18:09.000 SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE ARIZONA STATE REPUBLICAN PARTY, IT'S IN A STATE OF DISARRAY.
00:18:12.000 BECAUSE HALF OF THE ARIZONA STATE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS ALWAYS TRUMP.
00:18:15.000 THE OTHER HALF IS NOT SO HOT ON TRUMP.
00:18:18.000 VIRTUALLY ALL OF THE SORT OF POLITICOS IN ARIZONA LOOK AT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN NOMINATED FOR VARIOUS POSITIONS IN ARIZONA, AND THEY SAY, WHAT THE HELL ARE WE DOING?
00:18:25.000 ARIZONA, JUST A FEW YEARS AGO, WAS A STATE WITH A REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR AND TWO REPUBL That's not evidence of victory.
00:18:35.000 That is not picking the issues that matter to the people of Arizona and focusing in on those issues like a laser beam.
00:18:40.000 That's focusing in on Maricopa County audits, which by the way, that audit resulted in more votes for Joe Biden than it did for votes added for Donald Trump.
00:18:50.000 Is focusing in on Carrie Lake's bizarre, quixotic quest to reclaim the governorship of Arizona on the basis of presumably no evidence that she can actually present in court and win with?
00:19:01.000 Is that what they want to run on?
00:19:03.000 What is the plan here?
00:19:04.000 And when you talk to people in Arizona or in the Arizona GOP, they're tearing their hair out because their money, their money raising is gone.
00:19:10.000 Their fundraising is gone.
00:19:11.000 A lot of their ground game is gone because it's been dedicated to this sort of stuff.
00:19:14.000 It's not just Arizona, by the way.
00:19:15.000 Michigan is getting torn apart right now because of all of this.
00:19:18.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, When a fight broke out at a closed-door meeting of the Michigan GOP State Committee, a kick to the groin and broken dentures interrupted discussion of the dismal finances of the state Republican Party.
00:19:29.000 The altercation last month at the Dougherty Hotel in Clare, Michigan made clear the Michigan Republican Party, now dominated by its right flank staunchly aligned with former President Trump, has descended into chaos.
00:19:37.000 It can barely fundraise.
00:19:38.000 It has all but gone broke.
00:19:40.000 State lawmakers have taken to raising money on their own, unable to rely on the party at a time when Republicans are seeking to reclaim a majority in the state legislature and prepare for the 2024 election in Michigan, a crucial presidential swing state.
00:19:51.000 Michigan GOP's infighting is an extreme example of the dysfunction in many states, as the Chamber of Commerce Republicans who used to define the party gave way to populists who are deeply skeptical of elites and institutions of power.
00:20:00.000 Now, you could make common cause between those two things.
00:20:03.000 The so-called Chamber of Commerce, you know, people who actually care about business climate in states?
00:20:06.000 They don't have to be at odds with the so-called populists.
00:20:09.000 But what you do need to do is pick issues that your candidates can win on and then run the parties in order to win the elections.
00:20:16.000 What I don't understand is the party Political parties, believe it or not, are not supposed to be repositories of principle principally.
00:20:23.000 That's really not what they're about.
00:20:25.000 Political parties are supposed to be about victory.
00:20:27.000 They are vehicles for victory.
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00:21:11.000 Okay, so, political parties used to be vehicles for victory.
00:21:15.000 What that meant is that, yeah, there were a set of party bosses and those party bosses focused in very heavily on who could win elections.
00:21:21.000 Then, in a populist move, a lot of these parties, Democrat and Republican, decided to devolve more authority to the voting population inside the parties.
00:21:28.000 And what that meant is that the best organized positions inside those parties were likely to win.
00:21:33.000 The best organized positions were often held by the people who had very, very strong positions.
00:21:39.000 All of that is fine if there is a counterbalance which asks the question of who can win.
00:21:44.000 However, when the party becomes a non-profit, Then you got a problem.
00:21:48.000 Okay, in the non-profit world, here's the way the non-profit world works in general.
00:21:51.000 I know, I used to work for a conservative non-profit.
00:21:53.000 Non-profits work to lose.
00:21:56.000 Okay, this is very often the case.
00:21:58.000 Not for everybody, there are a lot of non-profits doing amazing work, but the general non-profit model, the metric of success is what?
00:22:05.000 Well, it isn't profit, it's a non-profit, right?
00:22:06.000 The metric of success for Daily Wire in terms of marks we have to hit is audience size and money earned, because we are a business and we have to employ people.
00:22:14.000 That is the milieu in which we work.
00:22:16.000 Non-profits are designed not to make money.
00:22:18.000 So how do they actually make their money?
00:22:20.000 The way that they make their money is by magnifying the problem.
00:22:22.000 What happens to a non-profit if the problem it is designed to fight goes away?
00:22:27.000 Like what happens?
00:22:29.000 Like what happens if you are a non-profit?
00:22:31.000 Let's say a non-profit that is dedicated to school vouchers.
00:22:34.000 And let's say the school vouchers actually get done.
00:22:36.000 Like the school vouchers actually work.
00:22:38.000 You get them.
00:22:39.000 Well then presumably you just kind of go back to your day job.
00:22:43.000 So nonprofits very often are interested in the problem of magnifying the size of the problem and presenting it as the most important problem in human history.
00:22:52.000 Well, if you are the Republican Party, your goal is to win elections.
00:22:56.000 That should be your goal, right?
00:22:56.000 That was your metric of success.
00:22:58.000 But what if the metric for success changes?
00:23:00.000 And the metric of success is no longer winning, which would be actually measurable.
00:23:04.000 And if it were measurable, you'd be punished for not hitting those metrics, right?
00:23:06.000 When people at Daily Wire don't do their job, they get fired.
00:23:09.000 When people in non-profit don't do their job, very often they just stick around and claim that the problem they're fighting has gotten worse.
00:23:15.000 Okay, the Republican Party is supposed to work more like an LLC than a non-profit.
00:23:18.000 In other words, it either delivers victory or everybody gets their ass booted out the door.
00:23:21.000 But lately, that's not the way that it's working.
00:23:23.000 If you lose, you stick around and you claim that you have to stay and that you lost because the problem is just so big.
00:23:29.000 In fact, every time you lose, the problem gets even bigger, which is why you're even more necessary.
00:23:32.000 But then you lose.
00:23:33.000 But that's because the problem is getting even bigger and you're even more necessary.
00:23:36.000 But that's just because the problem is getting even bigger, which is why you lose.
00:23:39.000 You see, it's an endless cycle of uselessness.
00:23:42.000 And that's a real problem because, again, meanwhile, Democrats are winning.
00:23:46.000 The Democratic Party is a party that is dedicated to victory, which is why they have been winning consistently.
00:23:52.000 Now, you could design a party with an apparatus that actually is oriented toward victory.
00:23:56.000 That's happened in the state of Florida, where the party is oriented toward taking political positions that are victorious across a broad swath of the population, for example.
00:24:05.000 There are other states that do this, too.
00:24:06.000 It's not just Florida.
00:24:07.000 The New York Republican Party actually outdid itself in the last election cycle by nominating a series of pretty good candidates in swing seats and also pursuing redistricting.
00:24:15.000 That was very helpful.
00:24:17.000 But if you have state Republican parties that have basically decided that their goal is to just yell at the problem a lot, and the louder they yell, the more they lose, which means they have to yell even louder, which means they lose, then how exactly do they plan to achieve victory here?
00:24:31.000 I don't see the plan.
00:24:32.000 Give me the plan and maybe I'll side with you.
00:24:35.000 But I'm not seeing the plan right now.
00:24:36.000 All I'm seeing is people who believe But the louder they yell, the more the problem gets solved.
00:24:41.000 That is not how any problem in your life has ever been solved.
00:24:44.000 It's not how any political problem gets solved either.
00:24:46.000 That doesn't mean you can't have a populist grassroots movement in favor of a position on a topic that is popular.
00:24:52.000 That is how you win.
00:24:53.000 The Parents Movement is a very conservative position.
00:24:56.000 It's super conservative.
00:24:57.000 It's how you end up with the Republican governor of Virginia, Glenn Youngkin.
00:25:01.000 That was a very conservative movement, but why?
00:25:04.000 It was driven at a parent population that just did not want sexual indoctrination of kids.
00:25:07.000 They picked an issue, and they polarized it.
00:25:09.000 I'll tell you the one issue that if Republicans run on it, they will get skunked in 2024, and that is the election of 2020.
00:25:15.000 If the election of 2020 is what they choose to run on in 2024 in all of these states, and everything becomes a loyalty test to President Trump, as opposed to about getting rid of Joe Biden, Republicans will lose, and they will not lose it.
00:25:28.000 Cheap.
00:25:28.000 It will be very, very costly.
00:25:30.000 By the way, I should remind everybody at this point that because of the intervention of Donald Trump in those Georgia Senate races, if you worry about Biden inflation, if you're at $7 trillion spending packages, that is because Democrats had control of the Senate, which they never should have had.
00:25:43.000 And again, we should be focused on Joe Biden's record because it absolutely sucks.
00:25:47.000 By the way, Joe Biden is now in the consistent cover your ass mode.
00:25:51.000 So Joe Biden has now announced that he is going to be visiting Maui.
00:25:54.000 on Monday. That was after he spent the entire week vacationing and ignoring questions about it.
00:25:59.000 This is the way that Joe Biden's shtick actually works. The way that Joe Biden's shtick actually
00:26:03.000 works is that he makes a boo-boo, and then the boo-boo starts to get worse and worse and worse.
00:26:06.000 And then finally, he slaps a band-aid on the boo-boo. And as the gangrenous wound sets in,
00:26:10.000 leading to possible amputation, the media declared that the problem has now been fixed.
00:26:14.000 So Joe Biden and First Lady Jill will travel to Hawaii on Monday. The President and First Lady
00:26:19.000 will travel to Maui on Monday, according to the White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre,
00:26:23.000 to meet with first responders, survivors, and federal, state, and local officials in
00:26:26.000 the wake of deadly wildfires on the island.
00:26:28.000 Maybe he'll vacation there.
00:26:29.000 Maybe he'll go on a bike ride and have some ice cream while he's there as well.
00:26:31.000 Have some Kona ice or something.
00:26:33.000 He'll really enjoy himself, because that's what Joe Biden, of course, is best at.
00:26:36.000 Meanwhile, Joe Biden and his team, they continue to promote the idea that he's doing a wonderful job.
00:26:41.000 So you are paying like $700 more a month in basic expenses now, thanks to Joe Biden.
00:26:45.000 But at least Joe Biden and team have spent trillions of dollars on useless climate policies.
00:26:50.000 That's exciting.
00:26:51.000 So the White House is now celebrating year one of the Inflation Reduction Act.
00:26:55.000 One of the largest-scale boondoggles in American history.
00:26:58.000 A ginormous bill largely dedicated not to reducing inflation, but to passing along subsidies to green energy companies.
00:27:04.000 Here's Corinne Jean-Pierre pushing the so-called Inflation Reduction Act.
00:27:08.000 As you all know, today is the first anniversary of the Inflation Reduction Act.
00:27:14.000 Most one-year-olds can barely walk, but this one-year-old is up and running.
00:27:21.000 I couldn't help myself, sorry.
00:27:23.000 Up and running.
00:27:24.000 So that's very exciting.
00:27:25.000 We're very excited about the Inflation Reduction Act and everything that it's doing.
00:27:29.000 This one-year-old has run directly into a wall and is bleeding on the floor, and you're standing there cheering.
00:27:34.000 It's absolutely insane.
00:27:35.000 Meanwhile, the Deputy NEC Director, Bharat Ramamurthy, he showed up and explained that the Inflation Reduction Act is actually a green investment.
00:27:43.000 Remember when we said that and we were told that that's not true?
00:27:45.000 Because it was called, after all, the Inflation Reduction Act, and every act that is named after a thing is that thing.
00:27:50.000 So it reduced inflation, even if it didn't reduce inflation.
00:27:53.000 Well, now they're finally admitting that it was just, you know, a climate boondoggle.
00:27:57.000 Hey, Beran, it was reported that the president said at a fundraiser the other day that it probably wasn't the best named legislation, and I'm wondering what the White House would want to call it if it were fresh today.
00:28:08.000 Maybe you could call it the Economic Growth Inflation Reduction Deficit Reduction Cost Savings Act, Greenhouse Gas Emission Reduction Bill.
00:28:17.000 It did a lot.
00:28:18.000 It accomplished a lot of really important priorities for this country.
00:28:22.000 It is putting us in a position to lead on clean energy production.
00:28:26.000 Remember, this is going to be a multi-trillion dollar global market for clean energy.
00:28:30.000 Wow, how exciting, guys.
00:28:32.000 I mean, they lied and everybody laughs about it because this is the way this White House works.
00:28:36.000 I mean, they lied.
00:28:36.000 They said it was about inflation reduction and that's how they passed it.
00:28:39.000 And Joe Manchin said it would reduce inflation, all the rest.
00:28:41.000 And then it was just, you know, a bunch of giveaways to the friends of the Biden administration, which is how this place works.
00:28:45.000 Meanwhile, John Podesta, the White House Deputy Chief of Staff, another Obama holdover and Hillary Clinton holdover, he says people across the spectrum support Joe Biden's green mandates, which is weird because I don't see any data to that effect.
00:28:57.000 Across the political spectrum, they support the movement to cleaner forms of energy, cleaner forms of transportation, and the other processes I mentioned, industrial processes as well, because it has enormous benefits to the economy, to job creation, to business investment, To public health?
00:29:18.000 To everything, guys.
00:29:20.000 So, how do you feel about the Biden administration spending, you know, a trillion dollars of your money on random crap while you can't pay the bills?
00:29:27.000 Do you feel good about that?
00:29:28.000 Because I feel like you probably shouldn't feel that good about that.
00:29:32.000 I don't think many people do feel that good about that.
00:29:33.000 You know what would be great is if the Republican candidates were talking about that.
00:29:37.000 Have you seen any of them talking about that?
00:29:39.000 Mueller?
00:29:40.000 Bueller.
00:29:40.000 It would also be amazing if the Republican candidates continued to talk about the corruption inside the Biden family.
00:29:46.000 So, as we'll talk about a little bit later on in the show, this stuff has been well known for a very long time.
00:29:51.000 The level of corruption in the Biden family is extraordinary.
00:29:54.000 It's absolutely extraordinary.
00:29:55.000 It extends to his brothers, Jim and Frank.
00:29:58.000 It extends to his sister.
00:29:59.000 It extends to his kids.
00:30:00.000 I mean, Joe Biden has basically been the piggy bank for this entire family for 40 years.
00:30:06.000 Closing deals, getting people hired, all on the back of the influence that he could wield in Washington D.C.
00:30:10.000 And he's not been shy about it for any amount of time at all.
00:30:15.000 Again, I mean, Hunter Biden literally sent a text to his own daughter saying that he paid his dad's bills.
00:30:21.000 I don't know what else you need here.
00:30:24.000 But apparently the Biden administration is just going to try and get away with it.
00:30:28.000 So here is Karine Jean-Pierre saying that the real thing about Joe Biden and Hunter is that Joe is just really proud of how Hunter is rebuilding his life.
00:30:35.000 That's really the story here.
00:30:38.000 As it relates to Hunter Biden, we've been very clear.
00:30:41.000 We refer everyone to his representatives.
00:30:44.000 The president loves his son.
00:30:46.000 He is proud of how his son is rebuilding his life.
00:30:49.000 And as far as anything specific about any investigation, any criminal investigation, we just are going to be consistent and just not comment.
00:30:57.000 Okay, so here is the problem, of course.
00:30:59.000 Well, Joe Biden tries to pass this off as just, you know, an interior family notion.
00:31:04.000 David Weiss, the special counsel, who's now been given special counsel status after having tried to cut a sweetheart deal that completely blew up in his face.
00:31:11.000 Well, now, theoretically, he could be going after Hunter Biden, as he should, for Foreign Agents Registration Act violations, FARA violations.
00:31:17.000 Will he do that?
00:31:18.000 We'll find out, but we are very far from done.
00:31:21.000 We are very, very far from done with all the Hunter Biden stuff.
00:31:25.000 So why are Republicans still talking about, you know, other things?
00:31:29.000 Focusing on Ancelot?
00:31:30.000 If you follow the shiny object, you lose.
00:31:32.000 If you follow the shiny object, you lose.
00:31:34.000 And again, the biggest non-shiny object, the thing that, the massive elephant in the room is the failure of the Joe Biden economy.
00:31:39.000 We'll get to all the news on that in just one second.
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00:33:12.000 You might think you're familiar with the Stephen Avery case and everything that actually happened in Manitowoc County.
00:33:17.000 This is especially true if you actually watch Making a Murderer, which is the Netflix hit series.
00:33:20.000 Well, coming soon, Candace will unveil the shocking parts of Avery's story that were omitted in the Netflix series.
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00:33:29.000 This is a collect call from an inmate at the Calumet County Jail.
00:33:34.000 The man served 18 years in prison until DNA evidence cleared his name.
00:33:37.000 The Two Rivers man was convicted of sexual assault in 1985 but exonerated with DNA evidence in 2003.
00:33:45.000 So this is the infamous Avery lot.
00:33:48.000 Now, two years later, he again finds himself tied to a police investigation.
00:33:53.000 Accused of murdering Teresa Hallbuck on the Avery property.
00:33:57.000 Stephen Avery's 16-year-old nephew admitted his involvement in the rape and murder of Teresa Hallbuck.
00:34:03.000 The car is discovered just around the bend.
00:34:07.000 It was just this worldwide phenomenon.
00:34:09.000 I think they framed this guy.
00:34:10.000 I think he intended to crush the vehicle, but ran out of time.
00:34:13.000 Avery thinks the 36 million dollar lawsuit he filed is why he's being targeted in this investigation.
00:34:19.000 Netflix made millions of dollars from making a murderer.
00:34:29.000 But the filmmakers left out very important details.
00:34:33.000 Mountains of evidence that you have not yet seen.
00:34:35.000 The blood vial.
00:34:36.000 The most egregious manipulation from the movie.
00:34:39.000 Interrogations.
00:34:40.000 That's when he started beating me because I told him that he's sick.
00:34:43.000 Cell phones.
00:34:44.000 And I saw melted plastic parts of a cell phone.
00:34:47.000 Interviews.
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00:34:52.000 I don't know if I'm a suspect.
00:34:54.000 I got an eye.
00:34:56.000 I'm getting sick and tired of media deception.
00:35:03.000 description.
00:35:04.000 Evidence piling up.
00:35:05.000 Why would they omit so many different things?
00:35:07.000 Why are you editing my testimony?
00:35:12.000 I am not going to make the same mistake that the filmmakers did.
00:35:16.000 Rearranging the testimony.
00:35:19.000 They delete a portion of it at the end.
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00:35:23.000 They all know that Stephen Avery committed this crime.
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00:36:20.000 Meanwhile, again, the biggest issue here is Joe Biden's economy, which is failing for the vast majority of the American public who have experienced mass inflation under Joe Biden.
00:36:27.000 And Democrats keep trying to happy talk this thing.
00:36:28.000 They will end August 19th at 1159 p.m. Eastern Time.
00:36:32.000 Okay, meanwhile, again, the biggest issue here is Joe Biden's economy, which is failing
00:36:37.000 for the vast majority of the American public, who have experienced mass inflation under
00:36:41.000 Joe Biden.
00:36:42.000 And Democrats keep trying to happy talk this thing.
00:36:43.000 Chuck Schumer, who is inexplicably the Senate majority leader, he said today that our economy
00:36:49.000 is doing just fantastically well.
00:36:51.000 As of yesterday, most economists fear the most in the future.
00:36:57.000 And it's two things.
00:36:59.000 One, that China's economy is weakening too quickly, and that will have impact on exports, imports.
00:37:06.000 And two, that the United States economy is too strong.
00:37:11.000 It is.
00:37:12.000 Our economy is doing so well, and it's in good part because of the work we in the Senate and the President did over the last summer.
00:37:19.000 The infrastructure bill, the chips and science bill, and today we're celebrating the one-year anniversary of the IRA.
00:37:26.000 Probably the most significant pieces of legislation that's been passed since the Great Society.
00:37:32.000 Well, he keeps talking about how wonderful the economy is, which is weird since the U.S.
00:37:36.000 mortgage rate is now 7.16%.
00:37:38.000 This matches the highest rate for mortgages since 2001.
00:37:41.000 It is crimping both sales and refinancing activity.
00:37:44.000 The contract rate on a 30-year fixed rose 7 basis points to 7.16% in the week ending August 11th.
00:37:51.000 The latest jump in borrowing costs presents a fresh headwind for the housing market, just as the sector had been showing signs of finding its footing.
00:37:55.000 So we have credit card debt that is stacking up.
00:37:57.000 We have people who are not going to be able to buy new homes, which means that the prices eventually are going to drop because the market is going to drop, which means there will be people who are underwater on their own homes, which sets us up for another real estate problem.
00:38:09.000 Meanwhile, there's a rising risk of bank downgrades, according to The Hill.
00:38:13.000 That's a serious problem as well, obviously.
00:38:16.000 Fitch Ratings Analyst Chris Wolf has warned that dozens of U.S.
00:38:18.000 banks, including JPMorgan Chase, could face downgrades if the rating agency's assessment of the industry's health declines a little bit further.
00:38:24.000 Wolf was the lead author on Fitch's commentary when the rating agency lowered its operating environment score for U.S.
00:38:29.000 banks from a AA to a AA- in June.
00:38:32.000 If Fitch downgrades the industry score even further from AA- to A+, the agency would then be forced to reevaluate ratings on each of the more than 70 banks it actually covers.
00:38:40.000 And then, if institutions like J.P.
00:38:42.000 Morgan are cut, Fitch would have to at least consider downgrades on all of its peers' ratings.
00:38:47.000 So, what we are looking at is the real possibility of a massive economic problem coming.
00:38:52.000 And meanwhile, Joe Biden just keeps talking about how wonderful you have it.
00:38:56.000 How incredible things are.
00:38:58.000 Republicans should be talking about the economy nearly full time at this point.
00:39:01.000 Again, that is where the public does not approve of Joe Biden's economic performance.
00:39:06.000 I mean, again, if you look at Joe Biden's approval rating right now, topic by topic on the economy, he is getting absolutely skunked.
00:39:14.000 It is a massive problem for him.
00:39:16.000 And yet somehow Republicans are not focusing in on that, which I don't understand.
00:39:22.000 They're focusing on everything else.
00:39:25.000 Again, at a certain point, you have to wonder about that, given the fact that the economy remains, according to Ipstos, the number one issue, with a bullet.
00:39:33.000 Like, 20% of Americans count the economy, unemployment, and jobs as the number one issue facing the country, followed by crime and corruption.
00:39:41.000 Those are issues that Republicans should be hammering.
00:39:45.000 The third issue, they say, is environment and climate, but the fourth is immigration.
00:39:49.000 Republicans, Democrats, and Independents all say that the economy is the top issue.
00:39:55.000 And by the way, all Americans, 69% of Americans say that the country is headed in the wrong direction.
00:40:00.000 That we're on the wrong track.
00:40:02.000 Wouldn't that be evidence that Republicans can win if they refocus a little bit here?
00:40:07.000 The question is whether they actually will or whether they will not.
00:40:10.000 Meanwhile, the Democratic Party continues to prop up, you know, elderly, senile people.
00:40:15.000 Here I'm speaking specifically about Dianne Feinstein.
00:40:17.000 In fact, there's a brand new court filing out from the daughter of Dianne Feinstein alleging that she is actually the victim of elder abuse.
00:40:25.000 According to sanfranciscogate.com, the co-trustees of a trust in the name of Richard Bloom, the deceased wealthy husband of Dianne Feinstein, have now been accused of elder abuse against Feinstein in a recent court filing submitted by her daughter Catherine, who has limited power of attorney over the senator.
00:40:38.000 The filing, submitted August 8th, partially confirmed what had previously been reported by other outlets that Catherine Feinstein, a former San Francisco County Superior Court judge and current San Francisco Fire Commissioner, has limited power of attorney over her mom, which the senator signed over to her July 23rd, 2023.
00:40:52.000 The recent court filing notes this entitles Catherine to make legal decisions for her mother in certain civil-related matters.
00:40:57.000 Well, in the August 8th filing, Catherine Feinstein made the striking allegation that Michael Klein, Mark Shulvick, and Verit Mems, who control the Disputed Trust, are committing financial elder abuse against the 90-year-old senator.
00:41:09.000 In the filing, Catherine alleges the co-trustees didn't fund a trust her mother is the sole income beneficiary of, and they've not made required distributions to the senator since Blum's death in 2022.
00:41:18.000 Catherine, who's Feinstein's daughter from a previous marriage, also alleges that the co-trustees are purposefully slow-rolling payments to the senator because they intend to benefit Richard Blum's biological daughters, who stand to inherit millions of dollars that should go to Senator Feinstein if the trustees never make the required distributions to her.
00:41:33.000 Among other asks, Catherine wants the courts to suspend the co-trustees pending a decision on whether to remove them.
00:41:38.000 Now all of this suggests that perhaps this should not be, you know, a sitting United States Senator, given the fact that basically all of her financial decisions are now being made for her.
00:41:46.000 So her vote is making your financial decisions for you, but she is having all of her financial decisions made by trustees at this point.
00:41:54.000 These are the people that we have appointed to the highest positions of power in America.
00:41:59.000 Meanwhile, next week is going to be the first Republican debate.
00:42:03.000 President Trump is putting the RNC in a bit of a bind.
00:42:05.000 He has refused to sign the RNC Loyalty Pledge.
00:42:08.000 He said that last week.
00:42:10.000 He's expected to announce in the coming days whether or not he's going to attend the event.
00:42:12.000 It's very unlikely, I think, that he's going to attend the event.
00:42:15.000 According to The Hill, RNC Chairwoman Ron Romney McDaniel must now navigate the thorny situation of appeasing Trump while maintaining her control as head of the party.
00:42:23.000 Brian Sychik, a Republican strategist and Trump campaign alum, says it's a distinct possibility the Republican nominee for president could simply decide to shun the RNC itself.
00:42:30.000 When a candidate refuses to play by the rules, it obviously weakens the RNC's position.
00:42:36.000 But here's the reality.
00:42:37.000 Donald Trump was never going to sign an agreement like this.
00:42:39.000 And frankly, I think it's kind of a dumb thing.
00:42:41.000 Because no matter what Donald Trump says, can he be held to it?
00:42:44.000 What are the consequences if he doesn't?
00:42:46.000 If he signs the pledge and later he's like, I meant everybody but Chris Christie, then what is anybody going to do about it?
00:42:51.000 Like the answer is nothing.
00:42:53.000 McDaniel told CNN's Chris Wallace recently, it's beat Biden pledge.
00:42:56.000 And what we're saying, and the debate committee has met for over two years, people from Alaska to Illinois to Tennessee, is if you're going to stand on the RNC debate stage, you should be able to support the nominee and beat Biden.
00:43:05.000 Everybody has to sign the beat Biden pledge.
00:43:07.000 Everybody.
00:43:07.000 It's across the board.
00:43:09.000 The pledge states the candidate will support the eventual nominee of the party primary, and the candidate will not participate in any debate the RNC has not sanctioned.
00:43:15.000 The pledge is part of a criteria Republican candidates must meet to qualify for that presidential debate.
00:43:20.000 But again, in August 2015, then-candidate Trump was the only candidate on stage at one of the debates who wouldn't raise his hand to show that he would support the eventual nominee in the 2016 primary.
00:43:29.000 And there's something kind of wrong with this, you know, it's just a general rule.
00:43:32.000 If what you're about is Republicans winning, like you'd like to see Joe Biden not be in office, the fact That loyalty only runs one way.
00:43:39.000 That there is just expected loyalty from everybody to Trump.
00:43:41.000 But the minute that Trump is asked whether he'll support another nominee, if that person beats him, he refuses to raise his hand.
00:43:45.000 It kind of shows you where things stand right now.
00:43:48.000 The only reason there was a need to do a loyalty pledge was because of Donald Trump, said Alex Stroman, a Republican strategist and RNC alum.
00:43:53.000 But that's not true, obviously.
00:43:55.000 Because Trump himself has sort of refused to sign on the dotted line right now.
00:44:00.000 I mean, it's Trump that everybody is afraid of here.
00:44:03.000 It's not that other Republicans are going to have to pledge to support Trump.
00:44:05.000 They did in 2020.
00:44:07.000 It's whether Donald Trump is willing to support the party if he's not the person who's in charge.
00:44:12.000 Jennifer Horne, who is a spokesperson for Trump, she says the RNC needs Trump a lot more than Trump needs the RNC.
00:44:18.000 If they lose Trump, they lose the support of the Trump voters and their base for the Senate candidates, their House candidates, their state candidates.
00:44:23.000 Horne also said that if Trump decides to debate without signing the pledge, the other candidates should be given the same treatment.
00:44:28.000 So, we'll see where this heads.
00:44:30.000 Honestly, a debate without Trump on the stage is very likely to benefit some of the fringeier candidates because, again, those candidates are going to be able to free wheel, and they're not going to be the target of attacks.
00:44:39.000 If Trump were on the stage, presumably some of the other candidates would go after Trump, and that would turn into a brawl.
00:44:43.000 If he's not, then it'll turn into the lobster pot, right?
00:44:46.000 The crab pot.
00:44:47.000 It's going to be a bunch of people trying to drag down the nearest competitor.
00:44:50.000 Presumably, that means Ron DeSantis will take the brunt of the incoming in the debate next week.
00:44:55.000 So we'll continue to bring you the latest on all of that.
00:44:57.000 Again, in the national polling, DeSantis is still running second, but his numbers have declined relatively markedly.
00:45:03.000 Although, according to Quinnipiac, he's still up at about 18%, which puts him 39% percentage points behind Trump.
00:45:11.000 In Iowa, for what it's worth, he is trailing right now in the RealPolitics polling average by 27 points, 44 to 17.
00:45:18.000 So we'll continue to bring you the latest on all of that.
00:45:21.000 Alrighty, time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.
00:45:23.000 So things I like today.
00:45:24.000 I said earlier, the Biden family is deeply corrupt and has been for 40 years.
00:45:28.000 The best book on this?
00:45:30.000 It's a book by a reporter named Ben Schreckinger called The Bidens, Inside the First Family's 50 Year Rise to Power.
00:45:35.000 He goes through the details of the entire business relationship between Joe and Hunter, Joe and Frank, Joe and Jim, basically how since the earliest days of Joe Biden's rise to power, he was using that power in ways that benefited members of his family.
00:45:50.000 And his members of his family were using Joe Biden's name in order to get ahead.
00:45:53.000 I mean, it is a consistent pattern.
00:45:55.000 And it's always the same.
00:45:56.000 I mean, it's literally the same story over and over.
00:45:58.000 Joe Biden is a shadowy background figure being used by members of his family in order to obtain benefits for themselves.
00:46:04.000 And then him denying that he ever knew anything about it.
00:46:06.000 And this ranges from everything to fundraising to the kind of jobs that he was able to get Hunter coming out of college and law school.
00:46:12.000 It includes Things like how he presumably helped his brother obtain financing for some of his businesses, even though his brother is a complete ne'er-do-well, Jim is a complete ne'er-do-well.
00:46:22.000 Somehow, this family has been clearing tens of millions of dollars over the course of the past few decades, and none of it has to do with Joe, despite the fact that none of them have any real qualifications for literally anything.
00:46:32.000 The book is definitely worth the read.
00:46:34.000 Again, the Bidens inside the first family's 50-year rise to power.
00:46:37.000 One of the things that's pretty amazing, actually, is that if you search for biographies of Joe Biden, they don't really exist.
00:46:42.000 You see his memoirs?
00:46:43.000 There's like a couple of biographies that are maybe 200 pages of Joe Biden.
00:46:47.000 But for a man who's been in politics for 50 years, there really should be more there.
00:46:51.000 There really isn't because no one wants to do a deep dive on the guy.
00:46:54.000 Why?
00:46:54.000 Well, number one, he's really boring.
00:46:55.000 But number two, he's like old school, just corrupt.
00:46:57.000 He's just an old school, normal, corrupt politician who cares much more about his own personal benefit than he does about anything remotely resembling a policy agenda or the country.
00:47:07.000 The fact that he's been able to get away with it for all of these years is, again, just an homage to the media's ability to whitewash somebody who's been obviously dirty for decades on end.
00:47:17.000 Okay, time for some quick things that I hate.
00:47:22.000 So this has to be, you know, the dumbest story of the day.
00:47:26.000 So there's a Republican congressperson named Max Miller, Republican from Ohio, and he stepped in it after he told a Christian Republican activist to delete a quote-unquote bigoted post That's really stupid.
00:47:38.000 That's super, super stupid.
00:47:39.000 Truly.
00:47:39.000 Christians believe in Jesus.
00:47:40.000 They also believe that Jesus is the way, the path, and the light.
00:47:42.000 This is what they believe, obviously.
00:47:44.000 They are Christian.
00:47:44.000 to former President Trump before he was elected to Congress in 2022, then said it.
00:47:47.000 This is one of the most bigoted tweets I've ever seen.
00:47:49.000 Delete it, Lizzie.
00:47:49.000 Religious freedom in the United States applies to every religion you've gone too far.
00:47:53.000 That's really stupid.
00:47:54.000 That's super, super stupid.
00:47:56.000 Truly.
00:47:56.000 Wait, Christians believe in Jesus.
00:47:59.000 They also believe that Jesus is the way, the path and the light, right?
00:48:03.000 This is what they believe.
00:48:04.000 Obviously, they are Christian.
00:48:05.000 I'm not asking them to believe what I believe.
00:48:07.000 They can believe what they want to believe.
00:48:10.000 So long as they are not attempting to forcibly convert me, we don't have a problem here.
00:48:14.000 You can believe I'm going to hell.
00:48:15.000 Many people do.
00:48:16.000 I don't care.
00:48:16.000 That's fine.
00:48:17.000 We'll find out afterward.
00:48:19.000 The fact that anybody would say to a Christian, how dare you?
00:48:22.000 This is offensive to say that your faith suggests that there's no hope outside of Jesus.
00:48:27.000 Well, I mean, I believe that there's no hope outside of, say, the seven mitzvot b'nei Noach.
00:48:32.000 I'm like, I think that you are destined for a rough afterlife if you do not perform certain basic commandments.
00:48:39.000 That's true of pretty much every religion.
00:48:41.000 So I'm relatively confused as to why exactly it's bigoted.
00:48:44.000 It really is not bigoted.
00:48:47.000 Miller said, Well, again, that is a Jewish perspective, but you can't tell Christians what to believe.
00:48:57.000 That is a very strange take.
00:48:58.000 He ended up actually walking it back.
00:49:01.000 As he should have.
00:49:03.000 He ended up apologizing for it, actually.
00:49:05.000 Again, as he should have.
00:49:08.000 He says, I posted something earlier that conveyed a message I did not intend.
00:49:10.000 I will not try to hide from my mistake or run from it.
00:49:12.000 And then he added, I sincerely apologize to Lizzie and everyone who read my post.
00:49:16.000 And that is, you know, that is the way you do an apology, at least.
00:49:21.000 So at least there's that.
00:49:23.000 But let me just make it clear that religious freedom means a bunch of people can believe stuff about religion that you don't yourself believe.
00:49:28.000 That is totally fine.
00:49:29.000 Okay.
00:49:30.000 Coming up, we're going to be jumping into the mailbag, so stick around for that.
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