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00:00:09.000All right, we have a lot to get to today, so let's just jump right in.
00:00:16.000The fact is that the Democrats are divided over what to do about impeachment.
00:00:20.000And this divide is mirroring the divide between AOC and Nancy Pelosi.
00:00:24.000This, of course, is going to be the running gun battle that goes all the way through the 2020 election.
00:00:28.000It's certainly going to take place in the primaries.
00:00:30.000As we'll see, it's reflected in Joe Biden versus Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren.
00:00:34.000But it's not coming together anytime soon.
00:00:37.000Now, a couple of weeks ago, this was breaking right out in the open.
00:00:40.000AOC was saying that Nancy Pelosi was a vicious, brutal racist.
00:00:44.000And Pelosi, for her part, was saying that AOC was a neophyte who really didn't know what she was doing.
00:00:50.000And they'd been saying this about each other kind of in softer ways for months.
00:00:53.000AOC had been saying for months that Nancy Pelosi was freezing her out, she was the teenage girl whose mom wouldn't let her use the car, and she was really mad about it.
00:01:00.000After all, Mom, I know how to use the car.
00:01:02.000And Pelosi was like, well, last time I drove with you, you ran into a tree, so we're not doing that again.
00:01:09.000And then it was papered over by the fact that President Trump couldn't keep his tweet shut.
00:01:13.000And so he just decided to tweet out a bunch of stuff about how much he hates the squad and how the squad's really bad and they should go back to their home countries and all of this.
00:01:22.000Well, it turns out that controversy is not going to be papered over by unification against Trump for very long, because in the end, Democrats are going to have to settle this one way or another.
00:01:34.000Being in the opposition papers over a lot of internal differences.
00:01:37.000This is something that Republicans found out when they were in the opposition.
00:01:40.000When they were in the opposition to President Obama, then it was unity, unity.
00:01:46.000We're all going to unify to fight Obama's agenda in every conceivable way.
00:01:50.000Then they went back to House and it turns out they can't get anything done because the Freedom Caucus is at war with the more moderate Members of the caucus.
00:01:57.000And it turns out that Paul Ryan is at war with other members of the caucus.
00:02:01.000It turns out that some members of the caucus want entitlement reform and other members of the caucus don't want entitlement reform.
00:02:06.000It turns out there are vast divisions inside each one of the parties.
00:02:09.000It's an additional check and balance that the founders never really thought about.
00:02:12.000And for all the talk about unification within the parties, the truth is that there is no unification within the parties.
00:02:18.000Now, what's interesting is that unification From the outside appears to be pretty cohesive simply because the lack of unity is not around ideological agenda.
00:02:28.000It's around means, meaning that it used to be that inside the Republican Party, there were a lot of pro-choice people.
00:03:41.000So this is all the prelude to the discussion of impeachment.
00:03:44.000So a wing of the Democratic Party wants to push forward with impeachment, despite the fact that the Robert Mueller hearing the other day went incredibly poorly for Democrats.
00:03:54.000It did not bring to light any additional facts, which we did not know.
00:03:57.000And I think that Democrats were they keep operating under the same assumption they've been operating in in presidential politics for a really long time, which is that if something they say is unpopular, it's because they didn't communicate it properly.
00:04:09.000So when Al Gore was running for president, the idea was he didn't win, not because his program was unpopular, but because Al Gore was just too intellectual for the American people, which is a hell of a thing.
00:04:19.000Al Gore is not too intellectual for anyone.
00:04:21.000They did the same thing with John Kerry in 2004.
00:04:23.000The reason that John Kerry lost wasn't because his message was bad.
00:04:26.000It wasn't because he was a peacenik in a time of war.
00:04:29.000No, it was really because John Kerry was just too smart for the average American.
00:04:33.000We've gotten the same thing with Hillary Clinton.
00:04:34.000She was just too smart for the average American.
00:04:37.000The average American wants the Homer Simpson light that is Donald Trump, right?
00:04:40.000That was the line from the Democratic Party.
00:04:42.000And they're doing the same thing now with regard to impeachment.
00:04:46.000So most Americans actually have a fairly good idea of what was in the Mueller Report.
00:04:49.000A lot of bad behavior by the president, nothing criminal.
00:04:51.000And that's all they're going to take away from it.
00:04:53.000They're not going to take away from it that he was a Russian stooge, because he wasn't.
00:04:57.000They're not going to take away from it that the president is impeachable, because he really is not.
00:05:01.000What they're going to take away from it is that the president is exactly who they thought he was in the first place, namely a guy who mouths off a lot, makes a lot of empty threats.
00:05:09.000The president is a dude who's willing to take help from pretty much anybody, no matter where it comes from.
00:05:13.000And I mean, for goodness sake, the president has said all this stuff out loud.
00:05:17.000It's not like Trump has been shy about any of this.
00:05:19.000Are we supposed to be shocked by the fact that the Trump campaign was welcoming of Russian offers even if no collusion took place?
00:05:27.000Donald Trump got up on the stump in 2016 and called on Wikileaks to release Hillary Clinton's emails and started shouting from the stage, I love Wikileaks!
00:05:37.000He wasn't exactly hiding the ball here, guys.
00:05:39.000But Democrats seem to be under the impression before the Mueller hearing That all they truly had to do was re-expose Americans to the deep, dark secrets of a Mueller report that had been in public release for several months at this point, and all 448 pages available, and that Mueller would stand there and be strong and decisive, and that this would provide the impetus for impeachment.
00:05:59.000Well, that didn't happen, but that's not stopping some members of the Democratic Party.
00:06:03.000We'll get to more of that in just one second.
00:06:12.000But there is one situation in which you really do have to think about death, at least for five minutes, and that is when you're thinking about buying life insurance.
00:07:18.000Even the New York Times acknowledges this.
00:07:21.000So there's a piece by Carl Hulse in the New York Times today titled Lack of Electricity in Mueller Testimony Short Circuit Impeachment says President Trump was probably never going to be impeached in the House of Representatives before the 2020 elections.
00:07:32.000The testimony by Robert Mueller, the former special counsel, makes that a near certainty.
00:07:37.000The absence of an electrifying Washington moment in Wednesday's two stage testimony by Mueller.
00:07:42.000Not only deprived Democrats of the crystallizing episode they needed to drive public opinion on impeachment, but it also meant that Republicans had no reason to budge from their anti-impeachment stance.
00:07:52.000Pressure will continue to come from the left and could become so irresistible the Judiciary Committee begins what it will call an impeachment inquiry without a formal House vote, but that is very different from a vote in the full House to formally declare that an elected president committed high crimes and misdemeanors for only the second time in history.
00:08:08.000Wasn't elected, so that would be the third.
00:08:10.000This sort of language from the New York Times is always amusing.
00:08:11.000under the burden of Trump's iron-fisted control over his own party.
00:08:15.000This sort of language from the New York Times is always amusing.
00:08:18.000Barack Obama also had some fairly iron-fisted control over his own party.
00:08:22.000Breaks in the ranks of the president's party always drove major congressional White House investigations in the past, including Watergate, the Ron Contra, and the impeachment of President Bill Clinton.
00:08:30.00031 Democrats voted with Republicans in October 1998 to open an impeachment inquiry into Mr. Clinton.
00:08:36.000But the plain fact is that nothing Mueller could have said would have been sufficient to pry the vast majority of pro-Trump Republicans from their refusal to even consider that Mr. Trump acted illegally in trying to thwart a wide-ranging investigation into his actions.
00:08:51.000Okay, well, again, the Mueller report was supposed to provide that evidence.
00:08:55.000If Mueller had come forth and said, listen, impeachable, There's an impeachment ready in the same way that the Star Report did.
00:09:01.000And the Star Report's a little different because the scope of his authority under the Independent Counsel Act was broader than Mueller's was here.
00:09:07.000But if Mueller had come forward and just said, I would recommend prosecution, but we can't under the OLC, impeachment would be moving full ahead.
00:09:14.000Republicans probably would have peeled off.
00:09:16.000You would have had a serious impeachment effort.
00:10:00.000Nate Silver says way too many 3D chess theories on how impeachment would benefit Democrats politically can't even grapple with the simple fact that polls show impeaching Trump as being deeply unpopular.
00:10:11.000And no, it's not just because of Pelosi's lack of support.
00:10:14.000Impeachment is really unpopular with independents.
00:10:16.000And then he links to a Washington Post-ABC News poll from June 28th to July 1st, a pretty recent poll.
00:10:21.000And it shows that among independents, fully 59% say no impeachment, only 37% say yes impeachment.
00:10:30.000Well, there's still Democrats who say, well, that's just because we have to educate the American public.
00:10:33.000Again, this is back to the old Al Gore, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry line.
00:10:36.000We've been too sophisticated in our approach.
00:10:40.000You had CNN running interference for your impeachment nonsense for literally two years.
00:10:46.000Nonetheless, this is breaking out into the open.
00:10:48.000And it's representative by the by the women of the view, many of the women of the view who represent the heart and soul of the Democratic Party.
00:10:56.000They're demanding that Adam Schiff impeach President Trump.
00:10:59.000And that includes, of course, Anna Navarro, the titular Republican, who, of course, hasn't really been a Republican for several years at this point.
00:11:06.000What you said was, you know, the perfect case for collusion.
00:11:10.000So if we've got those facts, if we've got that information, how do you justify to the American people not following up with an impeachment inquiry?
00:11:19.000Well, the Constitution provides impeachment as a remedy.
00:11:22.000It doesn't compel Congress to act and impeach whenever there are grounds for impeachment.
00:11:28.000And I think we have to consider what will an impeachment and an acquittal in the Senate say about whether this President's conduct is compatible with office, if the President can later make the claim, having been acquitted, that this is not impeachable conduct.
00:11:44.000So I do think about what message we are sending today, what message we're sending...
00:11:48.000Okay, weird that Adam Schiff would suddenly back off impeachment when he's been saying for years that he has undercover information that proves that President Trump is a Russian cat's paw.
00:11:56.000Eugene Robinson is a commentator for the Washington Post.
00:12:48.000I mean, when Eugene Robinson says that it would be it had to take people out in the streets to push Nancy Pelosi in this direction, it's not going to be enough for politically motivated politicians to just push it from the presidential level.
00:12:59.000But those protests are probably in order because this is where AOC is going.
00:13:05.000AOC has declared that President Trump is Hitlerian.
00:13:07.000The only solution to Hitler is to depose him, and thus impeachment should be on the table.
00:13:12.000And Nancy Pelosi is really trying to re-bridge that gap with AOC.
00:13:16.000She didn't like that fight that happened a couple of weeks ago.
00:13:18.000She wasn't fond of being called racist by AOC.
00:13:20.000Now, she had the upper hand for a moment, and then Trump proceeded to give AOC the upper hand.
00:13:26.000It is simply a fact that Pelosi was winning that fight.
00:13:29.000Most House Democrats had turned on AOC's chief of staff, Saikat Chakrabarty, who had ripped many members of the Congress, including some minority members of the Congress, as racists in the Jim Crow fashion.
00:13:40.000And Nancy Pelosi had basically sicced her dogs on Saikat Chakrabarty.
00:13:47.000And then Trump stepped in and Leroy Jenkins the whole thing.
00:13:51.000Well, now AOC is trying to make peace with AOC, at least for the foreseeable future.
00:13:57.000AOC met with Pelosi yesterday, and AOC said, oh yeah, it's just we're making sure we're all on the same page.
00:14:03.000The goal is just to open a line of communication and making sure that we're all on the same page on everything.
00:14:10.000I think the objective is just that, to make sure that we're opening a line of communication, that all aspects of the party are on the same page, and to make sure that, you know, for me, as always, that working people have a seat at the table in what's happening in Congress.
00:14:25.000Yeah, as opposed to Nancy Pelosi, who despises working people.
00:14:29.000Now, the good news is we have a visual representation of Nancy Pelosi's reaction to her meeting with AOC.
00:14:38.000It's a picture of them standing next to one another.
00:14:40.000And she said, Today, Congresswoman, Representative AOC and I sat down to discuss working together to meet the needs of our district and our country, fairness in our economy and diversity in our country.
00:14:51.000Nancy Pelosi looks like she wants to die.
00:14:54.000Nancy Pelosi, who always looks as though the grin that she has is plastered onto her face, it looks as though it has been chiseled there with an actual chisel.
00:15:02.000And she looks so deeply uncomfortable.
00:15:05.000Somebody who's Dan Foster from National Review tweeted out that Nancy Pelosi should blink twice if she's okay.
00:15:11.000I mean, it does look like a hostage photo.
00:15:14.000Pelosi is deeply unhappy about this whole routine where she is supposed to pretend to be friends with AOC.
00:15:19.000And the reason she's deeply unhappy about that is because she knows that AOC's general strategy when it comes to the public debate is really dumb.
00:15:27.000So AOC suggested that the GOP is running a torture program on the border.
00:15:32.000Not only are they running a concentration camp on the border, now it's a torture program on the border.
00:15:36.000Pretty soon she's going to be out there declaring that President Trump is running the island of Dr. Moreau on the border, where he's creating human-animal hybrids.
00:15:43.000You know, humans with pigs' faces and the hindquarters of a horse.
00:15:49.000Here's AOC with her latest slur on Border Patrol.
00:15:53.000How do you respond to Republicans who are talking about physical barriers being part of any package that deals with the actual crisis in terms of the traffic coming across the border?
00:16:26.000You think the Border Patrol agents are interested in torturing people on the border?
00:16:30.000Now Democrats are pointing to this Border Patrol Facebook group and they're pointing to the fact that something like 10 Border Patrol agents posted comments in this Facebook group that are gross and nasty and those agents are under investigation.
00:16:42.000And now they're trying to tie all 10,000 agents who are members of this Border Patrol group to those 10 commenters.
00:16:48.000Okay, you can't label the entire group racist because there are 10 commenters who say racist things in the comment section.
00:17:00.000It's amazing how people who cover tech for a living, who write for websites, don't seem to understand the very basic things about how things like Facebook work.
00:17:09.000Instead, they just propagate this myth that the entire Facebook group is inherently racist and everybody who joined the Facebook group is inherently racist because some of the commenters are racist.
00:17:17.000Well, by that token, you can go to any comment section on literally any website, find the few people who are the grossest, and then slur the entire website via the comments.
00:17:27.000But when you're trying to paint a narrative, then I guess that you go forward with this sort of nonsense.
00:17:33.000And the squad, of course, is now being magnified by the media.
00:17:36.000The media, who do not have to legislate, they do not understand the difference between Nancy Pelosi's job and their own job.
00:17:42.000They think that they could be Nancy Pelosi if only they were given the leeway.
00:17:45.000Just like too many people on the right think they could be Mitch McConnell under any circumstances, even if they've never been elected to a public office.
00:17:52.000There's this weird idea that the commentariat knows better than the people who are actually legislating how to get things done.
00:17:58.000And so they're giving all sorts of credence to the squad.
00:18:01.000So the New York Times grants a column to Ilhan Omar, the same New York Times that said that when she said anti-Semitic things, she was just opening a conversation.
00:18:08.000Now they've granted her some sort of op-ed in the New York Times talking about how the nation's ideals are under attack.
00:18:14.000And of course, it is just a long screed about how terrible President Trump is and how she stands for the best Okay, so this battle is breaking out into the open, as I say, about impeachment.
00:18:21.000Which apparently includes slandering anyone who disagrees with her on Israel as a purveyor of dual loyalty.
00:18:28.000And of course, she moves on to suggest that every policy that Republicans have is a reflection of their underlying racism in all of this.
00:18:36.000Okay, so this battle is breaking out into the open, as I say, about impeachment.
00:18:38.000Nancy Pelosi is opposing the impeachment.
00:18:42.000So according to according to Politico today, House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler pushed to launch impeachment proceedings against Trump during a closed-door meeting on Wednesday, only to be rebuffed by Speaker Nancy Pelosi, according to four sources familiar with the discussions.
00:18:56.000At a caucus meeting that came after the hotly anticipated testimony of former special counsel Mueller, Nadler suggested that several House committee chiefs begin drafting articles of impeachment against Trump.
00:19:05.000Pelosi called that idea premature, according to the sources.
00:19:08.000Mueller's appearance was a disappointment.
00:19:09.000Of course, Pelosi convened the Democratic caucus and a lengthy and animated discussion about the impeachment process followed.
00:19:16.000Suffice it to say that the battle between Pelosi and the squad is not nearly over, that it could be fought along the lines of impeachment, and that is going to accelerate up into the presidential race.
00:19:25.000Because now what you're going to see is the more woke members, the more Radical members of the 2020 Democratic presidential race declaring that they are in favor of impeachment.
00:19:37.000We've already seen this from Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris.
00:19:40.000You've seen Joe Biden be a little bit more circumspect.
00:19:42.000So this is now the conflict inside the Democratic Party.
00:19:45.000The folks who are radical and the folks who are more practical.
00:19:48.000Now the entire agenda is radical, make no mistake.
00:19:50.000And so if you're a Republican, if you're a conservative, there's part of you that is rooting for the more radical.
00:19:55.000There's part of you that is rooting for AOC to win.
00:20:27.000If you are looking for a better American politics, you want people who at least are capable, even if they won't do it, are capable of having a conversation, as opposed to the squad, the AOC crew, the Impeach Now crew, who are not capable of having a conversation.
00:20:41.000They're capable only of virtue signaling and declaring that their political opponents are evil for not favoring their special political means.
00:20:47.000OK, in just a second, we're going to get to the 2020 presidential race, where it looks like the guns are about to open up and things are about to get really interesting.
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00:22:02.000Okay, so all of this is leading up to the big Democratic debate.
00:22:07.000All of this is leading up to the big Democratic debate where impeachment, I'm sure, will come up, where the split between the squad and Nancy Pelosi, well, it should come up and where that split is going to be reflected on the stage.
00:22:18.000Now, the setup for the actual debates kind of fascinating.
00:22:31.000And then the second debate is Wednesday night.
00:22:34.000The first debate features Marianne Williamson, Tim Ryan, Amy Klobuchar, Pete Buttigieg, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Beto O'Rourke, John Hickenlooper, John Delaney, and Steve Bullock.
00:22:48.000The only person who is really of color there is Marianne Williamson, and that's just because she reflects the colors of the universe inside her soul.
00:22:55.000Everybody else is a plain old white person.
00:22:59.000That one will be fascinating only because of the conflict between Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren.
00:23:03.000The polls are conflicting over whether Warren has completely stolen Bernie's mojo or just partly stolen Bernie's mojo.
00:23:10.000Watching them go at it will be amusing to say the least.
00:23:13.000So we can all look forward to Bernie versus Warren.
00:23:16.000It's a big opportunity for Warren because if she really pummels Sanders, if she demonstrates that she's sort of souped up Sanders, then she'll do some pretty heavy lifting there.
00:23:23.000But everybody, the real question is what happens on night two.
00:23:27.000Night two is where all the fisticuffs are set to happen.
00:23:39.000Who is still my favorite of all these candidates, who I'm sure will say a grand total of four words and then gain in the polls, which is exactly what happened last time.
00:23:47.000You got Bill de Blasio, the weird groundhog killer.
00:23:56.000Who is Matt Drudge's favorite Democratic candidate and the favorite candidate of some folks on the right, because she's sort of a gadfly as well.
00:24:03.000You've got Michael Bennett, who's the only, when you talk about the only reasonable person in this race, Michael Bennett's the only person who looks sane.
00:24:09.000I mean, he's the only one who looks halfway sane in any of this.
00:24:12.000And then you have Julian Castro, who was supposed to pick up in the polls after his debate performance last time.
00:24:35.000Does Biden collapse or does Biden recover?
00:24:37.000In the last debates, you remember that Joe Biden Kind of fell apart under attack from Kamala Harris, the vice president who is leading in all the polls nationally and leading in many of the state polls.
00:25:57.000It was not a good showing for Joe Biden.
00:25:59.000Now, it hasn't destroyed him because he did have this giant lead on the field, but it definitely took him down about 10 points, anywhere from five to 10 points in the polls, and it gave a boost to Kamala Harris.
00:26:08.000Well now, Joe Biden says he's not going to sit by idly and let Kamala Harris do that to him again.
00:26:14.000He says he's not going to be as polite to Kamala Harris.
00:26:24.000This is the other problem with politicians.
00:26:25.000They're constantly giving away their strategy in advance.
00:26:28.000And we all know what Joe Biden has to do if we were watching.
00:26:31.000But Joe Biden apparently feels the necessity to explain that he will go after Kamala Harris.
00:26:36.000What he really should do is just be subtle about it.
00:26:38.000He should just wait until Kamala Harris hits him, and then he should knock her into next week politically.
00:26:43.000She should say something about federal busing, and he should say, listen, Kamala, Now, I agree that in certain circumstances, busing was wonderful.
00:26:52.000But you don't support busing right now.
00:26:53.000Why don't you support busing right now?
00:26:55.000And then she'll attempt to redirect and says, no, no, I need you to answer my question that I'm happy to answer yours.
00:26:59.000Why don't you support busing right now when de facto American schools are more segregated than they were 30 years ago?
00:27:05.000You're ripping on me for saying that busing, federal busing, was a bad idea.
00:27:09.000You're ripping on me for saying that opposing federal busing was in some form racist because it was imperative that blacks and whites go to school together.
00:27:16.000Well, blacks and whites still aren't going to school together, but you don't support federal busing, so why don't you explain to the audience why exactly you don't support federal busing?
00:27:24.000I'm not saying you're racist, I'm just wondering why it is that you think everybody else is racist if they don't support a policy prescription that you yourself will not support.
00:27:33.000I mean, there's a lot of material to go after Kamala Harris with.
00:29:34.000I thought we were friends and I hope we still will be.
00:29:37.000You know, she asked me to go out and call me and asked me to go to her convention and be the guy from outside of California to nominate her at her convention for the Senate seat.
00:30:37.000Also, he's not going to stand by while Cory Booker goes after him.
00:30:40.000So the way the stage is set up, so we actually know this, according to the DNC, the way the stage will be set up, Joe Biden will be dead center.
00:31:06.000Mr. Potato Head going around with the angry eyes, and he's been putting on the angry eyes every day about Joe Biden, suggesting that Biden is seriously a racist, that Joe Biden is easy on segregation.
00:31:17.000Here's Biden starting to punch back at Cory Booker and folks who say that's punching down.
00:31:22.000No, at this point, because Booker and Kamala Harris are tag teaming him, he doesn't really have a choice.
00:31:26.000They're making the same critique, and obviously they're making the same critique for the same political reason.
00:31:30.000Both Cory Booker and Kamala Harris are black, and they're seeking to carve into Joe Biden's massive lead among black voters in the South.
00:31:38.000So far with only moderate success, moderate to mild success, moderate for Harris, none for Booker.
00:31:45.000It is amazing that Booker let off the attacks on Biden and sort of like Chris Christie in 2016, just has not been able to get any traction.
00:31:56.000If you look at the mayor's record in Newark, one of the provisions I wrote in the crime bill, a pattern and practice of misbehavior, His police department was stopping and frisking people, mostly African American men.
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00:34:24.000And if you get one of those, then you have a shot of being featured here on the program, like Kyle.
00:34:29.000Kyle Misiak, who has posted a picture of himself with a Leftist Tears tumbler, apparently, near a nuclear facility, because nuclear facilities are great.
00:34:37.000And if you care about the environment, you should care about nuclear.
00:34:40.000Also, you can feel the Leftist Tears overflowing his cup as he moves toward a nuclear facility that ironically helps lower carbon emissions.
00:34:48.000But for some reason, the left hates nuclear.
00:34:49.000Don't know why, but that's the way it is.
00:35:11.000So Tulsi Gabbard delivered a fairly solid debate performance.
00:35:14.000She did not pick up a lot of ground in the polling.
00:35:17.000She continues to pull pretty low in the RealClearPolitics poll averages.
00:35:21.000She's not in the top 10 of the candidates in that average.
00:35:25.000Right now, she is polling below Julian Castro, Amy Klobuchar, Cory Booker, and Andrew Yang.
00:35:30.000Yang is pulling 2% in many of these polls and running ahead of Booker, which is just wonderful.
00:35:34.000The fact that Andrew Yang is running ahead of Cory Booker is the best.
00:35:37.000Andrew Yang in many of these polls is running ahead of Beto O'Rourke.
00:35:40.000And again, the great shock to me when you look at this polling data is that if there's one candidate whose media attention has wildly outpaced his actual performance in the polls, it's Pete Buttigieg.
00:36:08.000She's a person with different views on a lot of the issues that Democrats care about.
00:36:11.000She sort of appeals to the horseshoe theory of politics.
00:36:15.000Her isolationism is appealing to a lot of sort of paleocon conservatives.
00:36:19.000Well now, Representative Gabbard, the long-shot presidential candidate from Hawaii, according to the New York Times, said in a federal lawsuit that Google infringed on her free speech when it briefly suspended her campaign's advertising account after the first Democratic debate in June.
00:36:32.000The lawsuit was filed on Thursday for $50 million against Google.
00:36:37.000In a twist that reflects her unorthodox political views, the claim that her speech was stifled by Google is similar to complaints made over the last year in Republican circles.
00:36:45.000Few Democrats have raised similar concerns, and it is true that there are certain Google algorithms that benefit Democrat ideas.
00:36:51.000This has been true for a very long time, just a couple of years ago.
00:36:54.000There was a case where Google was putting fact-check ratings on right-wing sites only, but not on left-wing sites, for example.
00:37:02.000These big tech companies are getting a lot of scrutiny.
00:37:04.000Is it true that they cracked down on Tulsi Gabbard or was this just a mistake?
00:37:08.000This is one of the big questions that it's hard to get your mind around simply because the vast number of things that Facebook or Google deal with, it's so vast that an isolated incident, if it's taken for a pattern, it may not actually be a pattern.
00:37:22.000Nonetheless, the fact that Gabbard is going after Google is a quite fascinating story.
00:37:26.000We've reached out to Google for comments.
00:37:28.000I'm sure that other media outlets have as well.
00:37:32.000is the campaign committee for Gabbard.
00:37:33.000They said that Google suspended the campaign's advertising account for six hours, June 27th and 28th, obstructing their ability to raise money and spread her message to potential voters, which would have helped because she won the drudge poll.
00:37:44.000And while that poll is not nearly representative, it is publicity.
00:37:47.000After the first Democratic debate, Gabbard was briefly the most searched for candidate on Google.
00:37:52.000Her campaign wanted to capitalize on the attention she was receiving by buying ads.
00:37:56.000But apparently, Google either decided to turn her off, which I think is kind of unlikely, or they got fooled.
00:38:02.000And when they started suddenly pumping ad money behind a particular cause, Google always sort of puts a hold on that to make sure that it's legit.
00:38:09.000So, unclear whether that's political bias or not, but kind of fascinating that that's the direction that Tulsi Gabbard is going.
00:38:16.000Okay, meanwhile, in other news, the House did pass a two-year budget deal to lift the debt ceiling and suspend- to lift spending and suspend the debt ceiling yesterday.
00:38:44.000Supporters said that the legislation was a signal product of divided government, a compromise with something for everyone to love or hate.
00:38:51.000In reality, it's just something for everybody to love, spending, and something for everybody to hate, which is spending.
00:38:58.000Lawmakers in both parties are happy about all of this because, after all, no one ever gets busted in American politics for standing for more spending.
00:39:06.000Name the last candidate in American politics who really got clocked for spending too much money.
00:39:11.000You can say the Tea Party started because of Barack Obama overspending.
00:39:16.000It is also true that Barack Obama was an outsized politician whose coattails did not extend as far as they were supposed to and there was a huge backlash against the audacity of his programs, not really against the spending itself.
00:39:28.000As we find out, as soon as Republicans are in power, they are willing to spend up the wazoo.
00:39:32.000Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell basically made that clear yesterday.
00:39:35.000He came out, he said, yeah, we got to pass this budget because the budget's great.
00:40:37.000How dare Mike Lee and Rand Paul ask very simple questions about where the money is going to come from on this thing?
00:40:43.000How dare they hold up a bill for like two days, three days, in order to find out whether this is just spending...
00:40:50.000To infinity, because apparently it doesn't cut off funding for like a hundred years, or whether we can figure out a way to fund this thing.
00:40:56.000No one wins points in American politics by talking about cutting spending when they're in a position to actually cut spending.
00:41:01.000You only win points when you are not in a position to cut spending.
00:41:05.000And that's how these sorts of budget deals get done.
00:41:07.000No one has the political courage of their convictions.
00:41:09.000It's why no one talks about Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, which represent 66% of the federal budget.
00:41:14.000If we were to talk about that, Particularly social security, we would have to talk, if we wanted to fix it, we'd have to talk about a combination of privatization for people who are not on social security now, cutting future benefits for people not under social security right now, raising the retirement age for people not under social security right now, and or raising the social security tax rate, which is already 12%, all the way up to 15%.
00:41:37.000So the move toward fixing that thing is not going to happen until crisis is upon us, at which point we'll say it's an emergency, old people are suffering, now sign the check.
00:42:09.000Every time we hear the media talk about the end of the world, everyone's going to die, zombies in the streets, and then the thing goes for like four or five weeks, and some people miss their paycheck, and then they get back pay when the shutdown is over, and then we all move on with our lives.
00:42:22.000If it was so devastating for the American economy, why have we had unallied growth for years on end at this point?
00:42:30.000It's just a way for legislators to claim over and over and over that they have no solution except to continue spending your money.
00:42:37.000In other news, it is worth noting that Iran continues to grow more and more militant.
00:42:41.000Yesterday on our radio program we had on Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.
00:42:44.000He continues to push forward in his quest and the Trump administration's quest for hard-hitting sanctions and it's starting to come together.
00:42:51.000The plan is starting to come together for the United States.
00:42:54.000He said there would be a multilateral naval force likely to form in the aftermath of the Iranians attempting to target shipping in the Straits of Hormuz and the Gulf of Oman.
00:43:04.000According to the Washington Post, the British Navy has now begun escorting vessels traveling through the Strait of Hormuz after Iranian forces seized a British flag tanker.
00:43:11.000Now, make no mistake, the Europeans are still not on board with the United States sanctions.
00:43:15.000They're still not interested in the U.S.' 's sanctions efforts.
00:43:18.000However, they are not willing to violate those sanctions because the United States will punish companies that do violate those sanctions.
00:43:24.000We have secondary sanctions that have been placed on companies that do business with Iran.
00:43:28.000So now the British have been forced to defend their own shipping, which is the proper solution.
00:43:32.000In a statement on Thursday, Britain's defense ministry said the Royal Navy has been tasked to accompany British flag ships through the Strait of Hormuz either individually or in groups should sufficient notice be given of their passage.
00:43:43.000That means that you could see more naval conflict.
00:43:45.000The HMS Montrose, a Royal Navy Type 23 frigate, became the first Navy ship to offer an escort in the narrow waterway, according to Sky News, citing shipping industry sources.
00:43:55.000Britain made that decision after the IRGC, that's the Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps, on July 19th seized the Stena Imperial, a British flag tanker, as it passed through the Strait of Hormuz.
00:44:06.000Iran claimed that the boat was using the wrong channel through the strait had turned off its signals for longer than allowed, but the seizure was widely interpreted as a response to British Marines taking part in the seizure of an Iranian flag tanker near Gibraltar, a British overseas territory.
00:44:20.000So it's pretty obvious at this point that European shipping is under attack.
00:44:24.000It is also obvious that the Iranians are exploiting exactly the loopholes in the Iran nuclear deal that everybody said they were going to exploit.
00:44:30.000So the Iran nuclear deal was specifically designed in cowardly fashion by the Europeans and the Obama administration to take into account only the nuclear program.
00:44:38.000The idea is that we would stymie their nuclear program for 10 or 15 years And meanwhile, we would grant them regional power by funding them with billions of dollars in cash and allowing them to spend that money on terrorism and ballistic missile testing the minute that the sunset period was over.
00:44:52.000It wasn't a permanent deal to denuclearize.
00:44:54.000You could make the argument that if it was a permanent denuclearization deal, then maybe it's worthwhile.
00:44:59.000That if the deal wasn't a 15-year sunset a deal, that if the United States and Europe had said, listen, you dismantle all your nuclear facilities, there will be no fissile material created in your country, you don't need nuclear power, you're one of the world's leading producers of natural gas and oil, that if that had been a forever deal, then maybe it's a deal that's worth considering.
00:45:17.000It was like a 10, 12, 15-year deal, which means Iran becomes regionally powerful, test ballistic missiles that they will undoubtedly tip with nuclear weapons at the first available opportunity, And then you put them on the pathway to a nuclear weapon by limiting their capacity to develop a nuclear weapon only to a percentage.
00:45:37.000So it's not a complete denuclearization.
00:45:38.000It's not getting rid of all their nuclear facilities.
00:45:40.000It is simply diminishing their nuclear capability such that it would take them a few months to spin the thing back up after this waiting period is over.
00:45:49.000Well now, Iran is doing exactly what you would think they're doing.
00:45:51.000They're pushing up against the boundaries of that deal.
00:45:53.000They tested another ballistic missile today.
00:45:55.000Iran has reportedly tested the Shahab-3 missile.
00:45:59.000It did not pose a threat to shipping or U.S.
00:46:01.000bases, according to a Pentagon official.
00:46:05.000Apparently, they tested the medium-range missile on Wednesday in a bid to improve the range and accuracy of their weapons.
00:46:12.000News of that provocation emerged, according to the UK Sun, after Prime Minister Boris Johnson ordered the Royal Navy to accompany all British flagships through the Strait of Hormuz.
00:46:20.000This is pretty, it's pretty obvious what is happening here.
00:46:23.000What is happening here is that the Iranian government is feeling the sting of the sanctions.
00:46:29.000And because they're feeling insecure, they are attempting to lash out at the Europeans in an attempt to bring them back to the table to re-enter the nuclear deal.
00:46:37.000Well, if the nuclear deal is so good for Iran that they are lashing out and getting militant in order to enforce it, it's probably not a great idea, is it?
00:46:48.000So the Iran nuclear deal, which is seen by many on the left as the great solution to this problem, actually exacerbated the problem because either Iran was going to get militant in Yemen, Lebanon, Iraq, and Syria, or Iran was going to get militant with us.
00:47:01.000Right now they're getting militant with us because we have sanctions on them.
00:47:03.000If we didn't have sanctions on them, they'd be taking that money and they'd be using it for terrorist activities all across the world, including in South America, in Africa, in other parts of the world where they funded terrorist entities.
00:47:14.000So Iran continues to do what they're doing.
00:47:16.000The good news is that the world is being forced into a position of taking protective measures against its own assets, which is a really good thing.
00:47:25.000Okay, one more piece of news and then we'll get to the mailbag.
00:47:28.000So AOC tweeted something out yesterday that is really, I think, foolish.
00:47:33.000What she tweeted out was a take on unpaid internships.
00:47:38.000She tweeted out, "Today I was asked why we should bother paying interns if they're, quote, 'getting experience for their resume.' Here's what we have to say about that." And then in this video of her and Rashida Tlaib and Ayanna Pressley all shouting at the camera, which is always a wonderful way to do things.
00:48:02.000Okay, so what is she talking about here?
00:48:05.000I'm all in favor of if corporations want to pay their interns, go for it.
00:48:08.000But if what you're saying is that we need to legislate it so that corporations must pay interns, you know what corporations are going to do?
00:48:23.000Well, if I, as an employer, have a choice between paying someone who is highly qualified and an intern, I'm gonna pay somebody who's highly qualified, am I not?
00:48:31.000Why would I pay somebody to learn the job?
00:49:01.000But most small businesses particularly are not going to do that.
00:49:05.000Instead, they're just going to hire people if they have to pay people, and they're not going to give people opportunities to sit around the office if it creates legal liability.
00:49:13.000It's easy for AOC to say that interns should be paid when she's not paying anybody.
00:49:28.000But the idea that the government is going to cram down internship rules on businesses, all that's going to do is end internships.
00:49:34.000You ain't gonna see any 17-year-olds walking around the office getting paid minimum wage to learn how to carry coffee and work the Xerox machine.
00:49:41.000That's not how any of this works, but the beautiful thing about being a Democrat is that you never actually have to operate in the world of business reality.
00:49:52.000This is a pro-you-get-to-consent-to-the-job-you-want-to-take point.
00:49:55.000And, by the way, it's a pro-opportunity point, because there are a lot of folks who have gotten internships at prestigious programs and who are not wealthy, and they've used that as a foothold to get into industries that they've desperately sought to enter.
00:50:10.000Troy says, hey Ben, after watching the Mueller hearing, I was surprised to see that the top trending hashtags on Twitter were impeach now and impeachment inquiry now.
00:50:17.000Were we not watching the same hearing?
00:50:19.000Are people just blinded by their hate for the president?
00:50:29.000There are many hashtags that seem like they should be trending that simply do not trend.
00:50:32.000And that is because in my humble opinion, Backed by some anecdotal evidence, it seems that Twitter will shadow ban particular hashtags.
00:50:42.000Second of all, Twitter does this by velocity.
00:50:44.000They don't do it by sheer number of tweets.
00:50:46.000So, that means that if a thousand people tweet something in quick succession, it is likely to trend on Twitter, which is why people have hashtag campaigns.
00:50:53.000Also, when it comes to Twitter hashtags, the fact is, it doesn't take that many people tweeting a hashtag for it to trend.
00:50:59.000Sometimes you'll see that with a thousand or two thousand tweets, something will trend.
00:51:04.000I've trended, what, five times in the last eight weeks?
00:52:01.000Edward says, The weeping of pregnant representative Erica Thomas, stirred by male instinct to defend the female sex of my species, isn't this the antithesis to the female feminist creed?
00:52:09.000And what about the representative's daughter?
00:52:26.000And that's because a lot of the aspects of common culture that we used to share, aspirational aspects of culture, those have gone away.
00:52:33.000In the 1950s, which were great for some reasons and really bad for some other reasons, obviously, in the 1950s, more people went to symphony orchestra events than went to baseball games.
00:53:03.000As far as the male instinct to defend females, yes, it seems fully foolish for feminists to claim that the best thing would be for men to stop defending them.
00:53:12.000You know what happens in cultures where men don't defend women?
00:53:15.000They look a lot like some of the most primitive cultures on Earth.
00:53:18.000Women standing up for themselves is a thing.
00:53:20.000You know what is necessary for women to stand up for themselves?
00:53:36.000So how could they vote to change their votes?
00:53:39.000So, good men always have to stand on the side of women.
00:53:42.000Feminists who throw that away, who think chivalry is bad, are idiots.
00:53:45.000And also feminists who think that the sort of woke feminist man who silences his opinion and recedes into the background and says, ladies have the first say, women have the first say, just because they happen to have different genitalia.
00:54:01.000Those are not going to end up being your allies.
00:54:02.000You want allies in justice and equality and freedom?
00:54:05.000You need men who stand up for justice, equality, and freedom, not men who stand against those things when feminists tell them to stand down.
00:54:12.000Well, obviously, look, the big problem with the military option is that there's an inordinate amount of ordnance right on the border between North Korea and South Korea.
00:54:33.000And those are huge numbers and really terrifying numbers.
00:54:36.000The military option obviously is the last option.
00:54:40.000The Chinese need to continue to be pressured.
00:54:42.000And the Chinese are not cutting off the North Koreans.
00:54:46.000In precisely the way that they should be cutting off the North Koreans.
00:54:49.000I'm not sure there is any easy solution to the North Korean problem, just as I'm not sure that there is any great solution to the Cuban problem.
00:54:56.000Dictatorship is very difficult to get rid of, particularly when that dictatorship is fairly well contained in a small area.
00:55:05.000As dictatorships grow larger, then there's always the possibility that they collapse due to their own weight.
00:55:10.000But, when you're Cuba, and you're a tiny island, and you have only a few million citizens, it's not that hard to keep control.
00:55:17.000The same thing is true in North Korea, particularly if you can threaten force to the outside world.
00:55:21.000Honestly, there's a better argument for regime change in Cuba than there is for regime change in North Korea in terms of the actual risk it would entail.
00:55:27.000See, Ashira says, in light of the release of his ninth film, are you a Quentin Tarantino fan?
00:55:31.000So, I certainly appreciate Quentin Tarantino's ability to craft a scene.
00:55:35.000My feeling about Quentin Tarantino is that he is effectively a filmmaker who makes YouTube films that are a bunch of YouTube films that are really good pasted together for like two hours.
00:55:44.000And that those do not actually work as a full-on movie.
00:55:49.000Those don't actually work as a complete movie.
00:55:51.000I've never seen one of his movies where I thought that was great all the way through.
00:55:54.000I think his best movie is Reservoir Dogs still, because it actually is somewhat tight.
00:55:58.000But all the rest of them are very sprawling.
00:56:33.000On a local level, to help fix this, how can we get more people involved in helping these children in the meantime?
00:56:38.000Well, honestly, most people are not up to foster parenting.
00:56:41.000Foster parenting is much more difficult than adoption for a variety of reasons, including the fact that very often, you get a fully formed kid, right?
00:56:47.000When you adopt, you're getting a kid, very often, who's a baby.
00:56:49.000When you're a foster parent, sometimes the kid arrives, they're six, seven years old, they've already had tremendously terrible experiences, and you have to deal with that.
00:56:56.000Obviously, we need more foster parents, but what we really need to do is ease in adoption.
00:57:00.000And instead, we are making it harder to adopt.
00:57:02.000We're getting rid of adoption agencies, Catholic adoption agencies, on the basis of social justice warrior crap.
00:57:07.000The idea that if a Catholic church favors a traditional couple, to receive a baby, that this is a form of bigotry.
00:57:48.000Well, obviously Saudi Arabia does sponsor terrorism and they have, but the amount of terrorism that is sponsored by Iran, by metrics that I have seen, world metrics, It pales in comparison from Saudi Arabia to Iran.
00:58:02.000Iran spends an enormous amount of money on terrorist activities in Syria.
00:58:09.000They have funded terrorist activities in Europe.
00:58:11.000They fund terrorist activities in South America.
00:58:14.000Now, Saudi Arabia is still a serious problem.
00:58:16.000And the Wahhabi mosque system funded by the Saudis is a lot more militant than other mosque systems that are not funded by the Saudi royal government.
00:58:25.000And Wahhabism does carry some dangerous seeds, in my opinion.
00:58:30.000Not all forms of Islam are equally dangerous, obviously.
00:58:32.000There are some forms of Islam that are perfectly fine, and there are other forms of Islam that are much more radical.
00:58:37.000The Wahhabist version of Islam is a much more radical version of Islam.
00:58:40.000When it comes to the actual sponsoring of violent terrorism around the world, however, it seems that the groups that are sponsored by the Iranians seem to be much more deadly than the groups that are sponsored in general by the Saudi government.
00:58:50.000Although, I'd like to see the statistical argument either way, honestly.
00:58:55.000Do you think that the Dems are gearing to do something big, gearing up to do something big like put Michelle Obama in the running at the last minute to surprise Republicans?
01:01:36.000An Orthodox Jew could become president of the United States because obviously there is a provision of Jewish law called pikuach nefesh.
01:01:42.000If life is endangered, then the president is allowed to respond.
01:01:46.000It is also true that the president doesn't necessarily have to Violate Shabbat in order to get things done meaning that let's say that you the president they asked the president for a decision on something President doesn't have to tweet about it necessarily president doesn't have pick up the phone He's got a pretty big staff so and and of course in cases where there's a national emergency Situation where Iran shoots down a drone or something you have to make a call right now Are people gonna die or are they not gonna die then?
01:02:10.000Orthodox Judaism itself says okay, you get to make an exception now now you get to I mean my wife was a doctor and Right, she was able to do medicine on Shabbat because pikuach nefesh was at stake, because a life was at stake.
01:02:21.000That is the one rule that you can break Shabbat anytime a life is at stake.
01:02:26.000In presidential politics, sometimes that's going to happen.
01:02:28.000Honestly, wouldn't it be kind of great for the country if everything sort of shut down between Friday night and Saturday night?
01:02:34.000I gotta admit, I think that it would be kind of great for- Listen, my life is great because between Friday night and Saturday night, I don't know what the hell's going on.
01:03:33.000Throughout the day, I'm watching the news, as you can tell from my Twitter feed.
01:03:36.000And I sort of form ideas of what the narrative of the day is.
01:03:39.000And then, when it comes time to put together a schedule, the night before I do the show, I put together a baseline schedule, because usually you kind of know what the news cycle is going to be the next day.
01:03:48.000And then in the morning, I wake up and I bombard my producers with a bunch of clips I want them to pull.
01:05:07.000Hey guys, over on the Matt Wall Show today, federal executions have been reinstated, and this fact has caused quite a lot of anger and consternation, especially on the left.
01:05:16.000One thing we keep hearing, which we hear a lot, this claim that, well, if you're pro-life, you can't be pro-death penalty.