The Ben Shapiro Show - Democrats Declare RFK Jr. The Enemy

00:00:00.000 One of the really fascinating things about modern American life is the way that the left has really taken to censorship.

00:00:05.000 It used to be, back when I was growing up, that it was the left who was very much against censorship.

00:00:08.000 You had groups like Tipper Gore's Parents Media Council, who were saying that rap music was bad and that it led people to...

00:00:15.000 Act in bad ways and believe bad things.

00:00:17.000 And the left was saying, that's really censorious.

00:00:19.000 That's truly, truly terrible.

00:00:20.000 All those terrible evangelical Christians who are saying that you shouldn't expose your kids to particular messages.

00:00:25.000 They were Puritans.

00:00:26.000 Well, now it's the left that has embraced censorship.

00:00:28.000 Largely because they have grabbed the commanding heights of power in nearly all cultural arenas.

00:00:33.000 And so since they have that, they feel like they have a right to basically say what can be said and what cannot be said.

00:00:39.000 Michael Schellenberger points this out.

00:00:40.000 He shows a poll about support for American government and tech companies restricting false information online.

00:00:46.000 It's rising steadily in recent years and it's almost entirely among Democrats.

00:00:51.000 Media propaganda has depicted Republicans as fascists, terrible people.

00:00:55.000 Basically, anybody who opposes the Democratic Party is now considered a font of misinformation or disinformation.

00:01:00.000 The left has conflated those two terms.

00:01:02.000 So, disinformation used to be a term meaning, say, Russian propaganda infiltrated through American sources.

00:01:07.000 For example, Now, misinformation and disinformation have been made into one term.

00:01:11.000 Misinformation just means stuff I don't like very often.

00:01:14.000 Sometimes it's outright false, but sometimes it's not.

00:01:16.000 Sometimes it's just a perspective that turns out to be true that you have attempted to censor.

00:01:19.000 Whether that be the Hunter Biden laptop, or whether that be the Wuhan lab leak theory.

00:01:24.000 According to Pew Research Center, it shows that the percentage of American adults who say that the United States government should actually censor information has risen from 39% in 2018 to 55% in 2023.

00:01:34.000 39% in 2018 to 55% in 2023.

00:01:39.000 The percentage of Americans who say that tech companies should censor what can be seen

00:01:42.000 and what cannot be seen, that rose from about 56% in 2018 to 65% in 2023.

00:01:49.000 And that's almost entirely located among members of the Democratic Party.

00:01:53.000 But what does this mean?

00:01:54.000 It means that if you exist outside of the extremely narrow Overton window the Democratic Party has provided, they are perfectly fine with censoring you.

00:02:00.000 This includes people who are Democrats, like R.F.K.

00:02:02.000 Jr., who until five seconds ago was considered a sort of environmentalist activist, very warm with Democrats.

00:02:07.000 R.F.K.

00:02:08.000 Jr.

00:02:08.000 is, of course, a Democrat.

00:02:09.000 He has suggested the actual prosecution, for example, of people who do not agree with the climate change agenda.

00:02:15.000 And yet, that's not enough for Democrats, because R.F.K.

00:02:17.000 Jr.

00:02:18.000 now poses a threat to the viability of Joe Biden's presidential run.

00:02:21.000 Joe Biden right now is polling in the 50 percentile, somewhere about 50, 55, 60 percent in virtually all the polls.

00:02:28.000 RFK, he's not going to threaten him for the nomination, but if he takes away 15 or 20% of the vote, then that could really threaten the viability of Joe Biden's presidential run.

00:02:37.000 So Republicans, in what is a pretty obvious political smart gambit, they had RFK Jr.

00:02:42.000 come to the Hill to testify about social media censorship.

00:02:45.000 And he blasted House Democrats.

00:02:46.000 He said, we're trying to censor a censorship hearing after 102 of them signed a letter asking that he be disinvited from testifying before the select subcommittee on the weaponization of the federal government.

00:02:57.000 So, Kennedy went directly after the Democrats in this particular hearing.

00:03:00.000 Again, it's pretty amazing.

00:03:01.000 They got 102 Democrats to sign a letter asking that Kennedy not be allowed to speak at this particular meeting.

00:03:09.000 So, RFK, in the lead-up to the interview, he told Fox News that the Biden administration, he said even the Trump administration, under their sort of COVID administration, had attempted to censor information that he was attempting to disseminate about the COVID vaccines, for example.

00:03:24.000 What the 155-page decision records is this unprecedented effort by the White House to silence its political opponents.

00:03:34.000 The first person they silenced was me.

00:03:36.000 So President Biden came to offer—and by the way, President Trump has censored me, too, not for any misinformation, but for what they call malinformation.

00:03:45.000 That means information that, while true, is inconvenient to the White House.

00:03:51.000 And inconvenient to or clashes with official orthodoxies.

00:03:56.000 President Biden came into office on January 21st, 2021.

00:04:01.000 Two days later, the White House ordered Instagram and Facebook to censor me and my entire account was taken down three weeks later.

00:04:14.000 So, he came to the Hill to testify about this, and again, over a hundred Democrats, more than half the Democratic Caucus, or about half the Democratic Caucus, signed an actual letter saying they didn't want him to be able to testify.

00:04:25.000 This prompted RFK Jr.

00:04:27.000 to say, you're trying to censor a censorship hearing.

00:04:29.000 Here he was yesterday testifying about it.

00:04:31.000 This is a letter, and many of you signed.

00:04:34.000 Many of my fellow Democrats.

00:04:35.000 I've spent my life in this party.

00:04:37.000 I've devoted my life to the values of this party.

00:04:40.000 102 people signed this.

00:04:44.000 This itself is evidence of the problem that this hearing was convened to address.

00:04:51.000 This is an attempt to censor a censorship hearing.

00:04:57.000 He is correct about all of that.

00:04:58.000 And then RFK Jr.

00:04:59.000 went on to point out that the idea that you must trust quote-unquote the experts, well, that's fallen into rather widely earned disrepute of late.

00:05:09.000 You know, I'll just say this one thing.

00:05:12.000 Trusting the experts is not a function of science.

00:05:17.000 It's not a function of democracy.

00:05:19.000 It's a function of religion and totalitarianism, and it does not make for a healthier population.

00:05:26.000 He is right about all that.

00:05:27.000 Now, what's amazing about this is the Democrats jumping full scale, like, both feet onto the, we cannot let R.F.K.

00:05:33.000 Jr.

00:05:33.000 speak.

00:05:34.000 Now listen, I disagree with R.F.K.

00:05:35.000 Jr.

00:05:36.000 on a wide variety of topics.

00:05:38.000 Those topics range from conspiracy theories that he has helped promulgate to some of the stuff that he says about vaccines, broadly speaking.

00:05:46.000 With that said, have I ever called for RFK Jr.

00:05:48.000 to be censored?

00:05:48.000 In fact, it's hard for me to think of a single figure who I've suggested should be full-on censored the way the Democrats attempted to censor RFK Jr.

00:05:56.000 on the Hill.

00:05:57.000 And it's not about what RFK Jr.

00:05:58.000 is actually saying.

00:05:59.000 It's the fact that RFK Jr.

00:06:00.000 is a political threat to the Democratic Party.

00:06:03.000 Everything is a power game to the people in power with the Democratic Party.

00:06:06.000 It's not about principle.

00:06:07.000 It's just about power.

00:06:08.000 And by the way, it's all projection.

00:06:09.000 So very often they'll look at members of the Republican Party and they will say, well, you know, for you guys, it's not about principle.

00:06:13.000 It's just about power.

00:06:15.000 No, actually, it's the opposite.

00:06:17.000 The way the Democrats talk about the Supreme Court, for example, they will suggest that conservatives on the Supreme Court, they're just trying to wield evil conservative power, except that the conservatives on the Supreme Court very often vote in ways that a lot of conservatives don't like.

00:06:28.000 It was Neil Gorsuch, a Trump appointee who is very conservative.

00:06:31.000 Who voted in Bostock to suggest that transgenderism was suddenly protected by the Civil Rights Act of 1964, for example.

00:06:39.000 But Democrats are constantly using power as sort of its own excuse.

00:06:44.000 And you can see that here.

00:06:46.000 They're going after R.F.K.

00:06:47.000 Jr.

00:06:47.000 for a very simple reason.

00:06:48.000 It is not because of his perspectives.

00:06:49.000 They're going R.F.K.

00:06:50.000 Jr.

00:06:50.000 because R.F.K.

00:06:51.000 Jr.

00:06:51.000 is running against Joe Biden.

00:06:53.000 It is that simple.

00:06:53.000 And it's really, really gross.

00:06:55.000 We'll get some more on this in a second.

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00:08:06.000 The Democrats' attacks on RFK Jr.

00:08:08.000 really were quite scurrilous yesterday.

00:08:10.000 One of my least favorite modes that the Democratic Party goes into is the, you must be an anti-Semite mode to people who clearly are not anti-Semites.

00:08:20.000 I mean, RFK Jr., suggesting that RFK Jr.

00:08:22.000 is an anti-Semite, I'd like to see the evidence on that one.

00:08:24.000 Like really, I want to see your work.

00:08:26.000 Show me on the back of an envelope.

00:08:27.000 And I'm not going to hear it from the same Democratic Party that has repeatedly and consistently put the existence of the State of Israel at risk, made excuses for the open anti-Semitism of Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, Alexander Ocasio-Cortez, Cori Bush, and the rest of the squad caucus in the Democratic Party.

00:08:45.000 I'm not interested in hearing from you guys about antisemitism when the White House's antisemitism report, their preferred policy going forward, was in part observed and written by the Council on American-Islamic Relations, an Islamist front group.

00:08:59.000 Like, no.

00:09:00.000 The answer is no.

00:09:01.000 Listening to Debbie Wasserman Schultz lecture RFK Jr.

00:09:04.000 about antisemitism is just galling.

00:09:06.000 These are the same exact Democrats, again, who make excuses for some of the worst antisemites in America, elected antisemites.

00:09:13.000 And yet, RFK Jr., because RFK Jr.

00:09:16.000 made a comment at a dinner where he misread a study talking about genetic markers and who is more vulnerable to COVID, the idea is magically that RFK Jr.

00:09:24.000 is the real threat to the Jews here from the same Democratic Party that is currently attempting to cut a deal with the genocidally anti-Jewish state of Iran, the government of Iran, as well as urging concessions by the state of Israel to actual, honest-to-God, Hitler-esque terror groups like Hamas.

00:09:43.000 It's just amazing to me and galling to me and disgusting.

00:09:46.000 Again, it's all about power.

00:09:47.000 Here's Debbie Wasserman Schultz suggesting that RFK Jr.

00:09:49.000 is an anti-Semite because of that comment that he made about the genetic markers of COVID or some such.

00:09:55.000 Let's be very clear here.

00:09:56.000 There's no legitimate comparison to the Holocaust.

00:09:58.000 It doesn't matter if you're talking about AI vaccine mandates or anything else.

00:10:02.000 There is no comparison.

00:10:04.000 And if this were a slip of the tongue, Mr. Kennedy, or a one-off comment, we would all move on.

00:10:08.000 But there's a deeply disturbing pattern.

00:10:10.000 In 2015, you apologized to all those, quote, whom I offended by my use of the word Holocaust to describe the autism epidemic.

00:10:17.000 When discussing efforts to encourage others to get vaccinated for COVID-19, you said Nazis did that in the camps in World War II.

00:10:23.000 They tested vaccines on gypsies and Jews.

00:10:25.000 That was a quote.

00:10:27.000 Like before, you apologized for invoking the Holocaust, saying, quote, to the extent my remarks caused hurt, I am truly and deeply sorry.

00:10:34.000 These are not real statements of contrition or remorse.

00:10:37.000 They are passive-aggressive non-apologies that blame the listener for reacting to the lie you just read.

00:10:43.000 Oh my god, he made a bad Holocaust comparison.

00:10:44.000 Almost like virtually everyone in politics.

00:10:47.000 Again, do I like those Holocaust comparisons?

00:10:48.000 No.

00:10:49.000 Do I think they are appropriate?

00:10:50.000 No.

00:10:50.000 Do I think this means that RFK Jr.

00:10:51.000 hates Jews?

00:10:53.000 No.

00:10:53.000 And do I think W. Wasserman Schultz would give a crap even if he did?

00:10:56.000 No, because half the Democratic Party caucus hangs out with people like Louis Farrakhan.

00:11:01.000 Kamala Harris literally three days ago tweeted out a photo of herself with Jesse Jackson, the guy who said that New York was Jaime Town.

00:11:08.000 The Democratic Party still sends its candidates like Pete Buttigieg to go hang out with Al Sharpton, a man who once said about Jews in Crown Heights, pin your yarmulke back and come on over to my house if you want to fight me.

00:11:20.000 I mean, like, I'm sorry, no.

00:11:22.000 The answer is no.

00:11:23.000 You have no leg to stand on right here.

00:11:25.000 And the idea that you guys are going to use this as an excuse to basically throw RFK Jr.

00:11:28.000 overboard, I don't believe you.

00:11:30.000 Barack Obama sat in the church of Jeremiah Wright for 20 years while Jeremiah Wright spewed the most blatant, Nazi-esque, anti-Semitic garbage I've ever seen on tape.

00:11:39.000 And suddenly, you guys care about this?

00:11:41.000 Really?

00:11:43.000 Again, I'm having a real tough time believing that this is anything but a tool of power for the Democratic Party, but obviously it's about principle for them.

00:11:50.000 Here is Representative Stacey Plaskett from the Virgin Islands.

00:11:54.000 She's a delegate, she's not an actual representative, and she of course is going after RFK Jr.

00:11:59.000 as well.

00:12:01.000 Even knowing what they know about Mr. Kennedy's Hateful, evidence-free rhetoric, and even though they've invited any number of witnesses to make their point, Speaker McCarthy, Chairman Jordan affirmatively chose to give this a platform.

00:12:18.000 They intentionally chose to elevate this rhetoric to give these harmful, dangerous views a platform in the halls of the United States Congress.

00:12:27.000 That's endorsing that speech.

00:12:30.000 That's not just supporting free speech.

00:12:34.000 They have co-signed on idiotic, bigoted messaging.

00:12:41.000 Oh, I mean, the Democratic Party has never co-signed on bigoted and idiotic messaging.

00:12:45.000 They are just representatives of decency and light.

00:12:48.000 Representative Jerry Connolly, he suggested you're here for cynical reasons.

00:12:51.000 You're just a, you're a prop.

00:12:52.000 And then my favorite part of this is where he's like, you are shaming the Kennedy name.

00:12:56.000 First of all, I don't know how it's possible to shame the Kennedy name.

00:12:59.000 The Kennedy name Originally associated with Joseph Kennedy, one of the great anti-Semites of the modern age.

00:13:05.000 And then passed along to John F. Kennedy, who was the president for three years.

00:13:10.000 And I understand that everybody in the United States has this very Camelot picture of John F. Kennedy's administration.

00:13:16.000 The truth is that he was wildly incompetent.

00:13:18.000 And then that was passed on.

00:13:20.000 Next one up in line was Teddy.

00:13:22.000 Well, first it was Bobby.

00:13:23.000 Bobby was probably the best of them.

00:13:25.000 And then it was Teddy who literally drowned a woman in his car.

00:13:28.000 So if we're talking about, you know, shaming the Kennedy name,

00:13:31.000 RFK Jr. saying things that Jerry Connolly doesn't like is, aye, aye, aye, shaming the Kennedy name.

00:13:37.000 Here we go.

00:13:38.000 You're not here to propound your case for censorship.

00:13:43.000 You are here for cynical reasons to be used politically by that side of the aisle to embarrass the current President of the United States.

00:13:50.000 And you're an enabler in that effort today.

00:13:52.000 And it brings shame on a story name that I revere.

00:13:59.000 I began my political interest with your father.

00:14:04.000 And it makes me profoundly sad to see where we have descended today in this hearing.

00:14:14.000 These people are ridiculous.

00:14:15.000 Why?

00:14:15.000 Because he's threatening Biden.

00:14:16.000 That's what it's about.

00:14:17.000 He's threatening Biden, and that cannot be allowed.

00:14:19.000 Hakeem Jeffries did the same thing.

00:14:21.000 The House Minority Leader, here he was yesterday, saying that RFK Jr.

00:14:24.000 is a living, breathing false flag.

00:14:26.000 I don't know what he means that it's a false flag operation.

00:14:29.000 Is he like a Reichstag fire?

00:14:30.000 What exactly is RFK Jr.?

00:14:33.000 Why would you give Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

00:14:37.000 a congressional platform to spew his hatred?

00:14:43.000 Here's the answer.

00:14:45.000 Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

00:14:47.000 is a living, breathing, false flag operation.

00:14:55.000 His whole campaign is being run by right-wing political operatives who have one objective, try to take down President Joe Biden.

00:15:07.000 That's why Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

00:15:10.000 was given a congressional platform.

00:15:14.000 Um, so I just noticed that his campaign manager is Dennis Kucinich!

00:15:21.000 Key right-wing figure, Dennis Kucinich.

00:15:23.000 A man who was so left-wing that when he ran for president, he was so far to the left of the rest of the Democratic Party that he was in, like, the Jill Stein slot.

00:15:30.000 These people are so pathetic.

00:15:32.000 But must offend the geriatric dotard who's in the White House and who's absolutely incompetent.

00:15:36.000 And so we're going to rip into RFK Jr.

00:15:38.000 That's what this is all about.

00:15:40.000 And ironically, what that's going to do is it's actually going to create support for RFK Jr.

00:15:43.000 because that's the way our politics work.

00:15:44.000 It's going to create support for RFK Jr.

00:15:46.000 Now, is that going to translate into victory for Republicans or something like that?

00:15:50.000 There's not a lot of poll data to suggest that it will, but does it demonstrate the inherent weakness of the Democratic Party and of Joe Biden particularly?

00:15:56.000 Absolutely.

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00:17:03.000 Okay, as I say, Democrats are deeply worried about the 2024 race, despite the fact that the polling right now is showing that Donald Trump, if he is the Republican nominee, is running at a pretty significant deficit to Joe Biden.

00:17:13.000 So Biden can't break 50% with a hammer.

00:17:15.000 The problem for Trump is that he can't break about 43% with a hammer.

00:17:18.000 There's a new Monmouth University poll suggesting that Trump would be defeated by Joe Biden,

00:17:23.000 even if there were a third party candidate like Joe Manchin in the race.

00:17:26.000 In a national survey of 910 voters, 47% of voters said they would definitely

00:17:30.000 or probably support Biden.

00:17:31.000 Only 40% said they would definitely or probably support Trump.

00:17:35.000 A potential unity ticket comprised of Joe Manchin and former Utah governor John Huntsman.

00:17:39.000 Manchin is a Democrat, Huntsman is a Republican, would barely eat into Biden's lead.

00:17:43.000 He would still boast a 40 to 34 advantage over Trump.

00:17:46.000 So basically they draw equally from both parties.

00:17:49.000 63% of voters in this poll profess to have an unfavorable view of Trump.

00:17:53.000 Half of all voters said they would definitely not support Trump in 2024.

00:17:57.000 Again, the question here is going to be whether there are a lot of voters who stay home because they're not hugely fond of Joe Biden.

00:18:03.000 I think what these polls are tending to show is that they may not be fond of Joe Biden, but they will come home if Trump is the nominee.

00:18:10.000 Now, right now there's some, sorry, I would say, you want to talk about fake polls and the fake polls?

00:18:14.000 Okay, a fake poll that is now making the rounds suggesting that Trump is leading the race by so far that Vivek Ramaswamy is now threatening Ron DeSantis for number two in the Republican nomination race.

00:18:24.000 That's just not true.

00:18:26.000 So there's a there's a poll that came out from Kaplan.

00:18:29.000 Kaplan is It is a Democratic Party polling group that is so off that they were actually claiming during the Nikki Freed run against Ron Sands in Florida that Nikki Freed was running even with him.

00:18:41.000 And then Nikki Freed ended up just getting absolutely walloped.

00:18:46.000 That polling group is bad.

00:18:47.000 It's just not a good polling group.

00:18:48.000 But one of the things that is clear is that obviously Trump does have a lead.

00:18:52.000 I will point out at this point that there's been a lot of news talk about Ron DeSantis declining in the polls or Ron DeSantis sliding in the polls.

00:19:00.000 I don't see any evidence of that.

00:19:01.000 Ron DeSantis is not climbing in the polls.

00:19:03.000 He's not exploding in the polls.

00:19:06.000 But Ron DeSantis is basically performing about where he was against Donald Trump all the way back in, like, May.

00:19:13.000 So again, his poll numbers have been basically stagnant since May.

00:19:16.000 And if you go all the way back to, like, October of 2022, before there was this bump that happened, The numbers are exactly where they were then.

00:19:22.000 So nothing has actually changed since about October of 2022.

00:19:25.000 Something is going to have to change for Trump to lose the nomination to Ron DeSantis.

00:19:29.000 But this idea that Ron DeSantis has been a consistent sliding state is obviously untrue at this point, and that is something to keep in mind.

00:19:35.000 Democrats, for their part, they're so worried about Joe Biden that they are just freaking out about the No Labels group.

00:19:41.000 So No Labels is the group that is talking about running somebody like Joe Manchin.

00:19:44.000 And Democrats are freaking about this, because what they're afraid of is the possibility that it's a very close election, and that a certain number of people vote for no labels, and it ends up being like Ralph Nader in 2000, where he won just enough votes to tip the election from Gore to George W. Bush.

00:19:56.000 They're worried about the same thing happening as what happened in 2016 with Jill Stein, where Jill Stein's voting numbers may have been enough to push Donald Trump over the top against Hillary Clinton.

00:20:04.000 Do I think that no label is actually going to achieve that?

00:20:07.000 I rather doubt it.

00:20:08.000 What they really should be worrying about is the symptom.

00:20:10.000 Okay, RFK Jr.

00:20:11.000 has 15-20% of the Democratic vote because Joe Biden is a bad candidate.

00:20:14.000 That's the symptom.

00:20:15.000 And that's really what they should be worried about.

00:20:17.000 Okay, in just one second, I'm gonna get to a story that shouldn't be shocking, but absolutely is.

00:20:22.000 Again, our FBI has lost so much credibility over the past seven years.

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00:21:31.000 Meanwhile, absolutely a shocking story.

00:21:33.000 So now we have testimony that has been revealed.

00:21:38.000 by Congressional Republicans, the House Judiciary Committee.

00:21:41.000 And they revealed this evidence in a letter to the head of the FBI, Chris Wray.

00:21:46.000 They say, on July 17th, 2023, the committee conducted a transcribed interview of Laura Demlow, the section chief of the FBI's Foreign Influence Task Force.

00:21:54.000 During her transcribed interview, Demlow revealed that the same FBI personnel who were warning social media companies about a potential Russian hack and leak operation in the run-up to the 2020 election knew that the laptop belonging to Hunter Biden was not Russian disinformation.

00:22:07.000 After the New York Post broke a story based on the contents of the laptop about Biden family influence peddling, the FBI made the institutional decision to refuse to answer direct questions from social media companies about the laptop's authenticity despite months of constant information sharing up to that time.

00:22:21.000 Put simply, after the FBI conditioned social media companies to believe the laptop was the product of a hack-and-dump operation, the Bureau stopped its information sharing, allowing social media companies to conclude the New York Post story was Russian disinformation.

00:22:32.000 So, here is the deal.

00:22:33.000 According to information available to the committee, The FBI confirmed the authenticity of Hunter Biden's laptop in November of 2019.

00:22:40.000 November of 2019.

00:22:41.000 Why is that important?

00:22:42.000 Because they gained possession of the laptop in December 2019, right?

00:22:46.000 Like a year in advance of this whole debacle.

00:22:48.000 In the nine months leading up to the 2020 election, the FBI met over 30 times with social media platforms, all while they had possession of Hunter Biden's laptop and had already verified that it was real.

00:22:57.000 Prior to the election, FBI Special Agent Elvis Chan scheduled, on behalf of the Foreign Influence Task Force, at least five meetings with Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, and multiple meetings with Twitter and Reddit.

00:23:07.000 Between May and November of 2020, the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency hosted at least nine U.S.

00:23:12.000 government industry meetings, including four meetings in October 2020 alone.

00:23:16.000 Representatives from the FBI, including Agent Chan, routinely participated in these meetings.

00:23:20.000 In one meeting on October 7th, 2020, just one week before the New York Post article on the Hunter Biden laptop was published, the agenda explicitly listed hack leak concerns as an item of discussion.

00:23:30.000 So the committee conducted a transcribed interview of the current FITF Section Chief Demlo.

00:23:34.000 She testified that by October 14th, 2020, the individual then serving as FITF Section Chief, Bradley Benavidez, as well as individuals assigned to FITF's Russia unit knew Hunter Biden's laptop was real.

00:23:46.000 Dunwell also testified the FBI could and did share information with those companies regarding foreign malign influence operations.

00:23:51.000 The Post published its story early in the morning on October 14th.

00:23:54.000 That same day, representatives from the government attended a previously scheduled meeting with Twitter, during which a Twitter employee asked FITF about the authenticity of the laptop.

00:24:03.000 According to the section chief, an analyst in the FBI's criminal investigative division embedded in FITF began to respond the laptop was real.

00:24:09.000 That's when an FBI lawyer interrupted to say the FBI had no further comment.

00:24:14.000 So here's the question.

00:24:15.000 Are you familiar with the October 2020 New York Post story on Hunter Biden's laptop?

00:24:19.000 I am.

00:24:19.000 Do you recall whether any of these social media companies you were meeting with asked you any questions about it?

00:24:23.000 I do.

00:24:24.000 What is your recollection?

00:24:25.000 So, here's the key quote.

00:24:27.000 I remember having a conversation with or being involved in a conversation with Twitter.

00:24:30.000 I honestly can't recall if this was repeated to me.

00:24:32.000 I might have been a few minutes late to the meeting or if I was actually there, but it was.

00:24:35.000 It was relayed to me later.

00:24:36.000 Somebody from Twitter, I don't recall who, I'm not sure who, somebody from Twitter essentially asked whether the laptop was real.

00:24:42.000 One of the FBI folks who was on the call did confirm that yes, it was.

00:24:44.000 Before, another participant jumped in and said, no further comment.

00:24:49.000 Following the meeting with Twitter, FBI personnel immediately deliberated internally about what information about the laptop the FBI would reveal to the social media companies when asked in upcoming meetings.

00:24:58.000 According to Demlo, after these internal deliberations, the decision was made.

00:25:03.000 FITF would say no comment going forward.

00:25:07.000 Later on that same day, FITF met with Facebook.

00:25:10.000 When asked whether the laptop was real, the FBI then replied, no comment.

00:25:15.000 They knew it was real!

00:25:17.000 They knew for 100% certainty it was real.

00:25:21.000 But when they were asked by Twitter and Facebook and all the rest of these social media companies, instead of saying, yes, we know it's real, instead they said, no comment.

00:25:28.000 While simultaneously, I mean, according to Mark Zuckerberg, who said this to Joe Rogan, they were told by the FBI there were foreign influence operations that were hovering around in the ether at the time.

00:25:37.000 So if you are the head of a social media company and you have the FBI telling you there's a lot of foreign influence, there's disinformation out there, a lot of hacks, a lot of leaks, And then you ask them, so Hunter Biden's laptop, that thing real?

00:25:50.000 And they say, no comment.

00:25:52.000 What is the cautious move that you are going to make?

00:25:54.000 You're probably going to censor the information in a quote-unquote abundance of caution.

00:25:58.000 That's how this happened.

00:25:59.000 This didn't happen just because the social media bros are on the left.

00:26:02.000 They are, but that really wasn't the issue here.

00:26:04.000 The real issue here is that the FBI deliberately decided to lie by omission to these social media companies.

00:26:10.000 That is an insane thing.

00:26:12.000 That's an insane thing.

00:26:14.000 Can you imagine you're working for Facebook and you ask the FBI, is the Hunter Biden laptop real?

00:26:18.000 And they've had it for a year and they know full well that it is real.

00:26:22.000 And instead of just saying, yes, we have verified that.

00:26:25.000 Instead of saying that the laptop is a real thing, but it was, but whatever excuse you want to make, instead of doing that, they just lie by omission.

00:26:34.000 They say no comment when they know for a fact that it is real.

00:26:36.000 That is, that is amazing.

00:26:38.000 And that is certainly election interference.

00:26:40.000 And you wonder why American trust, particularly on the right, has declined in these institutions?

00:26:44.000 This would be the reason why.

00:26:46.000 This would be the reason why.

00:26:47.000 It's an amazing thing.

00:26:49.000 Speaking of declining trust in the institutions, every day brings a new fake news story.

00:26:53.000 So CNN is really pushing it today.

00:26:56.000 So they have an entire article about the evils of Florida's education system.

00:26:59.000 And this is now being backed by idiots like Kamala Harris, the Vice President of the United States, who is so bad at politics that she's like a horrible chat GPT program gone wrong.

00:27:07.000 So Kamala Harris descended to Jacksonville.

00:27:11.000 where she is speaking about new black history standards approved by the state.

00:27:16.000 And she's gonna put on her faux outrage voice.

00:27:18.000 Kamala Harris is, it used to be Cory Booker, now it's Kamala Harris.

00:27:21.000 She's just a terrible, when we're talking about terrible actors

00:27:24.000 inside the Democratic Party.

00:27:25.000 So she's like Mr. Potato Head.

00:27:27.000 So Ms. Potato Head, I suppose.

00:27:28.000 She puts on her angry eyes for this one.

00:27:31.000 Just yesterday in the state of Florida, they decided middle school students will be taught

00:27:36.000 that enslaved people benefited from slavery.

00:27:40.000 They insult us in an attempt to gaslight us and we will not stand for it.

00:27:48.000 Shhh.

00:27:49.000 She is a liar!

00:27:51.000 She's a liar!

00:27:52.000 Okay, let me explain what the actual standards for history in the state of Florida say.

00:27:56.000 So what she's saying is that Florida teaches people that black people benefited from slavery.

00:28:00.000 Slavery is a wonderful thing, right?

00:28:01.000 That's how CNN reports it too.

00:28:02.000 The Florida Board of Education approved a new set of standards for how black history should be taught in the state's public schools, sparking criticism from education and civil rights advocates who said students should be allowed to learn the full truth of American history.

00:28:13.000 The curriculum was approved at the board's meeting on Wednesday in Orlando.

00:28:17.000 The new standards come after the state passed new legislation under Governor Ron DeSantis barring instruction in schools suggesting anyone is privileged or oppressed based on race or skin color.

00:28:25.000 The new standards require instruction for middle school students to include, quote, how slaves developed skills which in some instances could be applied for their personal benefit.

00:28:33.000 Okay, so the way that the CNN writers and Kamala Harris and the rest of this trumped up garbage, the way that they are creating out of whole cloth this story is by selectively quoting.

00:28:43.000 So let me read to you directly from the actual document, which by the way, the educational standards are 212 pages long.

00:28:48.000 So they really went searching inside this document.

00:28:50.000 Here's what it says, quote, Required of the curriculum in Florida.

00:28:55.000 describe the emergence, growth, destruction, and rebuilding of black communities

00:28:59.000 during reconstruction and beyond.

00:29:00.000 Instruction includes acts of violence perpetrated against and by African-Americans,

00:29:04.000 but it's not limited to 1906 Atlanta race riot, 1919 Washington DC race riot,

00:29:09.000 1920 Ocoee massacre, 1921 Tulsa massacre,

00:29:12.000 and the 1923 Rosewood massacre.

00:29:13.000 So they're angry that it says that there were acts of violence

00:29:15.000 that were perpetrated by African-Americans during any of these riots.

00:29:18.000 But that's true.

00:29:21.000 Now, the curriculum doesn't blame black people for that.

00:29:24.000 The whole point is that there's a racially unjust system that resulted in race riots.

00:29:27.000 That's actually what the curriculum says.

00:29:29.000 As far as the notion that the curriculum teaches that Black people benefited from slavery, here's what the curriculum actually says.

00:29:34.000 says, quote, examine the various duties and trades performed by slaves, e.g.

00:29:38.000 agricultural work, painting, carpentry, tailoring, domestic service,

00:29:41.000 blacksmithing and transportation.

00:29:42.000 Instruction includes how slaves developed skills, which in some instances could be

00:29:45.000 applied for their personal benefit.

00:29:47.000 In other words, black people, despite slavery, were developing skills that would

00:29:51.000 make them incredibly valuable citizens after they were freed from slavery.

00:29:56.000 That is a story of black resilience, not about how slavery was good for black people, you idiots.

00:30:01.000 But it's not idiotic.

00:30:02.000 It's deliberately garbage.

00:30:03.000 In fact, The African American History Work Group actually developed the standards.

00:30:08.000 That would be Dr. William Allen and Dr. Francis Presley Rice.

00:30:11.000 And here's what they say, quote, every standard benchmark and benchmark clarification

00:30:15.000 was developed using a methodological process within our work group.

00:30:17.000 Our work group began in February and worked through May to ensure the new standards provide comprehensive

00:30:21.000 and rigorous instruction on African-American history.

00:30:24.000 We proudly stand behind these African-American history standards.

00:30:27.000 There've been questions raised about language within a benchmark clarification of standard,

00:30:31.000 which says instruction includes how slaves developed skills, which in some instances could be applied

00:30:35.000 for their personal benefit, which by the way, as they're pointing out,

00:30:38.000 does not say that slaves were taught things that absolutely were for their own personal benefit.

00:30:42.000 That is not what it was.

00:30:43.000 Okay, quote, the intent of this particular benchmark clarification is to show that some slaves developed highly specialized trades from which they benefited.

00:30:50.000 This is factual and well-documented.

00:30:52.000 Some examples include blacksmiths like Ned Cobb, Henry Blair, Louis Latimer, and John Henry.

00:30:56.000 Shoemakers like John Fortin, Paul Kufi, and Betty Washington Lewis.

00:30:59.000 Fishing and shipping industry workers like Jupiter Hammond, John Chavis, William Whipper, and Crispus Attucks.

00:31:04.000 Tailors like Elizabeth Keckley, James Thomas, and Marietta Carter.

00:31:08.000 And teachers like Betsy Stockton and Booker T. Washington.

00:31:10.000 Any attempt to reduce slaves to just victims of oppression fails to recognize their strength, courage, and resiliency during a difficult time in American history.

00:31:17.000 Florida students deserve to learn how slaves took advantage of whatever circumstances they were in to benefit themselves and the community of African descendants.

00:31:23.000 It is disappointing, but nevertheless unsurprising, that critics would reduce months of work to create Florida's first ever standalone strand of African American history standards to a few isolated expressions without context.

00:31:32.000 We encourage everyone to view these robust standards for themselves.

00:31:35.000 But of course, the entire media is simply relying on everybody to ignore all of this.

00:31:42.000 They're relying on the media to lie to them, even though the media are lying to them.

00:31:48.000 That's what this is.

00:31:49.000 It's a lie.

00:31:50.000 Again, the lies by omission are just as bad as the lies by commission here.

00:31:54.000 And I should point out here, That the people who wrote the curriculum are themselves black.

00:32:01.000 Francis Presley Rice is black.

00:32:03.000 William Allen, who's been a guest on the program, is black.

00:32:06.000 They wrote the standards.

00:32:07.000 But apparently, again, Florida is deeply racist.

00:32:10.000 You can't trust them.

00:32:11.000 Why is trust down?

00:32:12.000 Because of you.

00:32:13.000 Because of you.

00:32:17.000 In just one second, we'll get to some actual Democratic hypocrisy that is pretty astonishing.

00:32:21.000 Remember all the Democrats who were saying, you know the Statute of Liberty?

00:32:26.000 Give us your tired, your poor, your yearning to be free?

00:32:31.000 Well, apparently in New York, they don't want them anymore, so please go away.

00:32:34.000 Please go back to the board.

00:32:35.000 We'll get to that momentarily first.

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00:34:30.000 And meanwhile, it's always fun when Democrats are hit with the consequences of their own bad policies.

00:34:34.000 So Joe Biden has basically opened the border wide.

00:34:36.000 There's been a sort of end to the giant lines of people outside the border on our southern border.

00:34:42.000 Why?

00:34:42.000 Because Joe Biden just opened the door.

00:34:44.000 Right, just as there is a long line outside the donut shop before they open, and then they open, and then the line starts to thin out because people are actually getting their donuts.

00:34:50.000 Well, now the processing at the border is incredibly fast.

00:34:53.000 Catch and release is happening at an extraordinary rate.

00:34:55.000 People are just showing up at the border.

00:34:56.000 They're being given an asylum claim.

00:34:57.000 They're being given a ticket, and they're being let into the country willy-nilly.

00:35:00.000 Well, the problem is those people have to go somewhere.

00:35:02.000 A huge percentage of those people, apparently, have been headed over to New York, the land of opportunity.

00:35:06.000 So much so that now Mayor Eric Adams, he's like, uh, please don't.

00:35:10.000 Please go away.

00:35:12.000 So it will never stop being amusing to me that mayors of major democratic cities...

00:35:16.000 We're now whining and complaining when some thousands of people come to cities with millions of people in them, as opposed to when it's like small southern towns on the Texas-Mexico border, you know, towns of 10, 20,000 people who are just supposed to absorb all those people.

00:35:32.000 Yeah, these are real caring folks.

00:35:34.000 Again, as I've mentioned before, a lot of the Democratic pitch, which is that we care, we care.

00:35:39.000 No, what they actually mean is we care enough to keep you far, far away.

00:35:43.000 Social security is wonderful because it means that you can ship a grandmama off to a nursing home instead of keeping her in-house.

00:35:49.000 And illegal immigration policy is wonderful as long as we keep them down there in Brownsville and we don't let them come up to New York.

00:35:54.000 Here's Eric Adams doing that routine.

00:35:56.000 We stated several months ago that we have reached full capacity.

00:36:01.000 And that full capacity was verbalized and now New York is going to be visually actualized.

00:36:08.000 We're going to see how much of our cup has basically runneth over.

00:36:15.000 We have no more room in the city.

00:36:21.000 We have no more room in the city.

00:36:22.000 I mean, maybe they can take up all the rent-controlled apartments that are being abandoned by everybody to go to Florida.

00:36:28.000 Maybe they can do that.

00:36:29.000 Well, what happened to that vaunted New York hospitality?

00:36:33.000 Also, that's not what the phrase cup runneth over means.

00:36:37.000 Now it's a bad thing when your cup run over, apparently.

00:36:39.000 So New York City is actually distributing flyers at the US-Mexico border aimed at discouraging asylum seekers from going to the East Coast metropolis, according to the Washington Post.

00:36:47.000 The city has received more than 90,000 migrants since April 2022.

00:36:50.000 Some 54,800 remain in its care, according to the mayor's office.

00:36:53.000 He says New York is at capacity.

00:36:55.000 He said, please consider another city as you make your decision about where to settle in the United States.

00:36:59.000 These are bright yellow flyers in English and Spanish.

00:37:02.000 So remember, if the state of Florida does that, that's because Ron DeSantis is a racist.

00:37:06.000 If Eric Adams does it, it's because Eric Adams is a wonderful emissary of diversity and tolerance.

00:37:12.000 The city is also giving 60 days notice to adult asylum seekers staying in shelters, after which they will need to reapply for a shelter placement.

00:37:18.000 So they might be booted.

00:37:19.000 New York City law protects the right to shelter.

00:37:21.000 The move could raise legal challenges.

00:37:22.000 So presumably a lot of these people are going to end up on the streets.

00:37:27.000 Adams is trying to blame Republicans for all of this, but the reality is that if you did not have a president who's opening the border wide, this wouldn't be a problem in the first place.

00:37:34.000 But again, delicious and fun to watch as Democrats see the results of their own policies.

00:37:38.000 Okay, meanwhile, the idiotic controversy over Jason Aldean's latest song,

00:37:43.000 continues his latest song about try that in a small town.

00:37:48.000 We've played a little bit of it on the show.

00:37:50.000 This is a music video, involves showing riots and Antifa attacks and all of this.

00:37:55.000 And he says, you try this in a small town, you're gonna get yourself shot, basically,

00:37:57.000 is the theme of the song, because we actually care about each other out here.

00:38:00.000 And no matter what your race, and no matter what your creed,

00:38:02.000 if you live in this small town, we have a level of social solidarity.

00:38:04.000 This apparently is really bad.

00:38:05.000 So bad that now the NAACP is joining the conversation.

00:38:09.000 Now the NAACP has pretty much destroyed its own credibility on this,

00:38:12.000 considering the NAACP also issued like a travel warning to Florida, which is totally crazy.

00:38:18.000 I mean, I'm sorry, the demographic breakdown in Florida by race,

00:38:23.000 suggests that actually, black people are not so unwelcome in Florida.

00:38:27.000 According to the 2020 census, about 12.4% points of the Florida population is black,

00:38:33.000 Another 18.7% is Hispanic.

00:38:36.000 White alone is like 60%.

00:38:36.000 But the NAACP is like, you can't go down to Florida if you're black, which is just ridiculous on its face.

00:38:43.000 Well, now the NAACP is saying that the song is really bad.

00:38:49.000 The president of the Tennessee chapter, President Gloria Sweetlove, says that Jason's tone, his message, and the imagery he's using are deeply offensive to people of color, especially black people.

00:38:58.000 Sweetlove says, the Tennessee State Conference NAACP finds the song and music video awful and racist.

00:39:03.000 She adds, in their eyes, the lyrics are bad enough.

00:39:05.000 But Aldine's adding insult to injury by filming the video in front of the Maury County Courthouse in Columbia, Tennessee, where a black man was lynched in 1927.

00:39:12.000 So, uh, yes, I'm sure that's what Aldean was thinking.

00:39:15.000 He wasn't just going to a convenient place to do the filming.

00:39:17.000 It must have been that he did some deep research, found where lynching was, and decided to film it right there.

00:39:21.000 Nailed it.

00:39:22.000 Meanwhile, The View, a conglomeration of complete idiots straight from Arkham Asylum, they've decided that also the Jason Aldean song is really, really bad.

00:39:32.000 If you want people to empathize with your side, or your take, or your interpretation, you need to stop and he should open his ears.

00:39:38.000 Because maybe he doesn't consciously realize why a lot of people are not okay with this song.

00:39:44.000 And he should really listen to that.

00:39:45.000 I'm actually not going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

00:39:48.000 I'm pleased that you are, and I'm pleased that you are.

00:39:50.000 Well, you do agree that he should be allowed to say whatever he wants.

00:39:52.000 Because as a lawyer, when I put my legal hat on, I don't believe in censorship.

00:39:57.000 However, this man is from Macon, Georgia.

00:39:59.000 My father's from Augusta, Georgia and Macon, Georgia.

00:40:03.000 I spent many summers there.

00:40:05.000 Yeah, both.

00:40:06.000 I spent many summers there.

00:40:08.000 It's one of the most racist places in this country.

00:40:12.000 So don't tell me that he knew nothing.

00:40:16.000 about what that imagery meant.

00:40:17.000 I didn't say he didn't know me.

00:40:19.000 So I don't give him the benefit of the doubt.

00:40:20.000 Along with him, more people should also be health accountable.

00:40:35.000 I've been down in Georgia.

00:40:35.000 Those are some of the most racist people in Georgia.

00:40:38.000 Try Boston or New York sometime, lady.

00:40:39.000 I mean, seriously.

00:40:42.000 One of the great myths, the self-flattering myth that Democrats have, it's really amazing, is that the South is filled with brutal, vicious, redneck racists, and the North is filled with people who absolutely are not racist, and they love people of other races.

00:40:54.000 Visit a major American city, Look at the levels of population segregation in those major cities and then go to a smaller town in the south and what you're likely to see is actually significantly more integration in the south than you see in the north.

00:41:04.000 Just geographically speaking.

00:41:07.000 Like, L.A.

00:41:08.000 is a very segregated city.

00:41:09.000 I was from L.A., okay?

00:41:10.000 L.A.

00:41:11.000 is, like, you can go to particular areas and you know what the predominant population is going to be.

00:41:16.000 Now I live in Florida, and I gotta tell you, like, the population mixing in Florida is a lot greater than it, in fact, the black population is a percentage of population in many southern states, is very, very high.

00:41:26.000 Now, all those people have had several generations to move to the north, and that's actually what happened when the south was finally freed of segregation.

00:41:34.000 An enormous number of people, or even before that, in the 30s, 40s, 50s, basically from 1900 to 1960, the number of black Americans who moved out of the segregated South and moved up to the North was really high because they were attempting to escape the evils of Jim Crow and racism in the South.

00:41:49.000 And then the Civil Rights Act happened.

00:41:51.000 And then there was racial progress in the South.

00:41:53.000 And now it turns out a huge number of black people live in the South of the United States.

00:41:57.000 Not because the South is more racist than the North.

00:41:59.000 In fact, what polls show is that racism abounds, you know, basically everywhere.

00:42:03.000 It's at the same rates in the West.

00:42:05.000 It's at the same rates in the Midwest.

00:42:06.000 Same rates in the South.

00:42:07.000 As early as 2002, Gallup had a study showing, quote, The South, a part of the country that one would not historically associate with racial harmony, does not actually fare as poorly as some other parts of the United States in terms of race and ethnic relations, or racial and ethnic integration.

00:42:20.000 While there's certainly room for improvement in opinions about race relations in this part of the country, Gallup's 2002 Race Relations Data and Dissimilarity Index results suggest the South may no longer trail the rest of the country.

00:42:30.000 When it comes to specific measures of residential integration and of attitudes toward black-white relations.

00:42:35.000 That is, as of 2002.

00:42:36.000 As of 2002.

00:42:36.000 And it's gotten better in the South since 2002.

00:42:38.000 The kind of...

00:42:43.000 Pathetic anti-Southern bigotry that you see there from Sonny Hostin.

00:42:48.000 Oh, the South is just filled with redneck racists, but the North is filled with wonderful, diverse people.

00:42:52.000 It's ridiculous.

00:42:53.000 It's ridiculous.

00:42:54.000 But, again, they're looking for an excuse to be angry.

00:42:56.000 No one is actually angry about the Jason Aldean song.

00:42:58.000 No one is angry about the Jason Aldean song.

00:43:00.000 They're pretending to be angry because, again, the desire for racism, Demand outstrips the supply.

00:43:07.000 And so you're going to have to go looking for racism in a song that is, again, the song and the music video show Antifa members who are largely white looting places and burning things.

00:43:16.000 The only people who are racist are people who think that when you say criminality is bad and if criminals try to do violent things, they should be shot.

00:43:22.000 If what you hear there is that's anti-black, you are the racist because it turns out that race has nothing to do with criminality.

00:43:29.000 If I say criminal and you hear black person, that's because you're a racist.

00:43:33.000 This is... And only the left is doing that.

00:43:37.000 Them and the white supremacists, right?

00:43:39.000 That horseshoe theory?

00:43:40.000 That hilarious video where it's like the woke guy and the white supremacists and they're holding hands?

00:43:46.000 We have now reached that point.

00:43:47.000 And the Jason Aldean song is just the latest symptom.

00:43:50.000 Why do I talk about The View?

00:43:51.000 Well, first of all, because The View is a major television show that reaches millions of people every day.

00:43:55.000 But second of all, because it is emblematic of what bumper sticker left-wingers think about things.

00:44:00.000 It's a dumb person's version of left-wing policy on The View.

00:44:05.000 And so when they say these dumb things, these uninformed things, it is actually representative about how a lot of people think about politics in this country.

00:44:11.000 They don't think about it deeply.

00:44:12.000 They don't consider the issues.

00:44:13.000 But they think that people like Sonny Hostin actually have, which is shocking.

00:44:16.000 Okay, meanwhile, speaking of Democrats doing things to compensate for their own policy failures, Chris Murphy and the Biden administration, Chris Murphy is a senator from Connecticut, and the Biden administration, they're now attempting to fight the epidemic of loneliness.

00:44:29.000 Oh my gosh, there's an epidemic of loneliness.

00:44:31.000 And that's true.

00:44:32.000 There is an epidemic of loneliness in the country.

00:44:34.000 Their answer is, what if we actually use the government to fix loneliness?

00:44:37.000 So now Murphy is apparently positing some sort of legislation to establish a national strategy to combat loneliness and promote social connection.

00:44:47.000 Murphy himself says, kids are addicted to algorithms.

00:44:49.000 That's what's happening right here.

00:44:51.000 I thought it was going to be the parental consent provision that was most concerning to these kids, but it wasn't.

00:44:58.000 It was the ban on the use of the algorithm.

00:45:00.000 These kids were really dependent on the algorithm, and they really couldn't envision a world in which they had to expend effort to find content that they were interested in.

00:45:11.000 A Google search to these kids was way too onerous in their minds, and they were really scared of the fact That TikTok or YouTube might not just be delivering them content tailored for them, and they feared that they would be more unhappy if they had to do that work.

00:45:28.000 Of course, the evidence is exactly to the contrary.

00:45:30.000 The evidence is that a decade ago, when teenagers actually had to do more work to find things that they cared about or to make connection with peers, that they were actually happier, that they were less lonely.

00:45:45.000 Okay, that is all true.

00:45:46.000 Also, that is not the real reason why kids are lonely.

00:45:49.000 Yes, the algorithm is addictive.

00:45:51.000 Yes, I would not give my kids cell phones with the apps on them, give my kids access to social media.

00:45:56.000 My kids are starting at that age.

00:45:58.000 My oldest is nine years old.

00:46:00.000 She's not going to have access to any of this stuff.

00:46:02.000 Until she's like 17, 18 years old, because I don't think that her brain is developed for it.

00:46:07.000 But, blaming it just on the decline of parental ability to stop kids from accessing social media is wrong.

00:46:15.000 What this is really about is decline of community generally.

00:46:18.000 So the internet has exacerbated the decline in community.

00:46:20.000 Where is that decline in community coming from?

00:46:22.000 Pretty obviously it's coming from a decline in religious affiliation.

00:46:25.000 It is pretty obvious that that's what's happening here.

00:46:26.000 According to a brand new Gallup poll, the percentages of Americans who believe in five religious entities, God, angels, heaven, hell, and the devil, have edged downward by three to five percentage points since 2016.

00:46:37.000 So, apparently, 74% believe in God right now.

00:46:40.000 That is down from 90% in 2001.

00:46:42.000 That is a marked decline.

00:46:45.000 And there is, of course, a very, very strong correlation between political affiliation and religious belief.

00:46:54.000 Between 78% and 87% of Republicans believe in those five entities.

00:46:59.000 Only 56% to 66% of Democrats believe in God, angels, and heaven.

00:47:03.000 Less than half say they believe in hell and the devil.

00:47:06.000 Which makes perfect sense.

00:47:07.000 Less than half of Democrats believe in hell and the devil because that might actually imply actual punishment for doing bad things.

00:47:12.000 It means really do believe in the concept of sin.

00:47:15.000 When it comes to just God, like let's put aside some of the, you know, angel, heaven, hell, the devil.

00:47:20.000 Let's put that aside for just a second.

00:47:23.000 When you look at just people who believe in God, 87% of Republicans believe in God.

00:47:28.000 66% of Democrats believe in God.

00:47:30.000 When it comes to hell, 79% of Republicans believe in hell.

00:47:33.000 Only 48% of Democrats believe in hell, because that frees you to do pretty much whatever you want.

00:47:38.000 If you believe that there is no punishment in the afterlife, Well, there goes, you know, one of the intensive structures for not committing sins in this life for hedonistic purposes.

00:47:46.000 The decline in religious affiliation is not just a matter of do you believe in God or not.

00:47:50.000 I've talked about this before, but I don't actually believe in the phrase believe in God.

00:47:53.000 I don't think that anybody sits around and mulls about God other than philosophy majors.

00:47:57.000 Even people who are religious don't sit around thinking about God all the time.

00:48:00.000 They act in God.

00:48:01.000 They live in God.

00:48:02.000 They live based on certain godly principles, and then they enact those in their daily life.

00:48:06.000 In fact, I'd say even many agnostics and atheists are operating off of religious principles.

00:48:09.000 They just don't acknowledge that's true.

00:48:11.000 If they believe there is a moral right and wrong, that is a religious principle.

00:48:14.000 It is not discernible from evolutionary biology.

00:48:16.000 If they believe that the universe is a place that you can actually understand, that your brain reflects eternal truths in the universe, for example, that's a religious principle.

00:48:23.000 You can't get that out of evolutionary biology or deterministic biology.

00:48:26.000 You just can't.

00:48:27.000 So if you live in that world, you are living in a religious world, if you acknowledge that, then you might form communities of interest around those values.

00:48:35.000 That's where churches come from.

00:48:37.000 The decline of church is directly correlated to the rise in loneliness.

00:48:40.000 Because church is where people used to get together.

00:48:42.000 It still is for a huge number of people.

00:48:45.000 My family is not lonely, because not only do we have kinship connections, right?

00:48:48.000 We have my parents living close, and my wife's parents living close, and we've got two of my sisters living close, and all the rest of this.

00:48:53.000 We also have an incredibly close friendship group.

00:48:55.000 We have a religious community with hundreds of families, all of whom are generally religiously like-minded.

00:49:00.000 And that allows for a certain commonality of interest.

00:49:02.000 It gives you a social safety net.

00:49:04.000 It makes you feel as though you're involved.

00:49:05.000 I've got people for my kids to play with.

00:49:08.000 When you atomistically remove people from their church, which is the only place that has been durably proven to actually have social connection, Then what you end up with is loneliness.

00:49:17.000 But Democrats like that loneliness because church comes with strings.

00:49:20.000 See, the thing is, any community comes with strings.

00:49:22.000 Everybody likes to pretend the community is just like you and your friends being non-judgmental with each other.

00:49:26.000 That's not true.

00:49:26.000 Even you and your friends have a judgmental set of values with regard to people who are not you and your friends.

00:49:31.000 Every group requires buy-in.

00:49:33.000 Every group requires skin in the game.

00:49:36.000 What the Democratic Party believes, what many members of the left believe, is that there should never be skin in the game.

00:49:41.000 And that if you require skin in the game to be part of the group, that's an inherent imposition on you and your authentic identity.

00:49:46.000 Well, that's going to break down into atomistic individualism pretty quickly, and that breaks down into loneliness.

00:49:50.000 Because now you are removed from the commonality of interest, the skin in the game, the sacrifice that is necessary to be part of a group.

00:49:56.000 And then you're shocked when loneliness abounds?

00:49:58.000 Yeah, social media has exacerbated all of this.

00:50:00.000 But one of the things I've noticed is that there are a ton of kids in the community where I live, and some of them have social media, but the loneliness rates ain't anything like what the loneliness rates are like in, say, secular society, where the kids don't associate with each other outside of school, where there isn't a 25-hour period every week, where the kids go to shoal together, or go to church together, or go to a community center together and hang out.

00:50:22.000 And when I say there's no substitute for church, I mean it.

00:50:23.000 There is no substitute for church, synagogue, mosque.

00:50:25.000 There isn't.

00:50:26.000 There's been an attempt to create ersatz communities of interest.

00:50:30.000 You see this sometimes in college groups or you see it like a country club or a bowling league or something.

00:50:35.000 It is not the same thing.

00:50:37.000 The decline of church as a center of community because it is directed toward a higher goal.

00:50:41.000 You need the higher goal in order to unify the community and create the structure of sacrifice that creates communal interest.

00:50:47.000 You get rid of that, well, you're gonna end up with this loneliness.

00:50:49.000 Direct correlation, not indirect, not secondary, direct correlation.

00:50:53.000 As affiliation with church declines, this is precisely what you're going to get.

00:50:56.000 And that's exactly what you're seeing.

00:51:00.000 If you look again at the data with regard to affiliation, like who goes to church on a weekly basis, the numbers have been declining radically.

00:51:10.000 Attendance at religious services, according to the Pew Research Center, Only 36% of Americans say that they attend church or religious services at least once a week.

00:51:21.000 That used to be much, much, much higher.

00:51:25.000 If you look at church attendance in the past seven days, for example, over the course of time, Gallup has data going all the way back to like 1940.

00:51:33.000 In 1939, 41% of Americans said they went to a religious service at least once a week.

00:51:38.000 That increased in the 50s all the way up to almost 50%, 49% in January of 1955.

00:51:40.000 49% in January of 1955.

00:51:43.000 Even during the 1960s and 70s, that number was in the 40s.

00:51:47.000 And then it bounced around during the 90s, and then it really started to fall off the

00:51:50.000 table in the mid-2000s.

00:51:52.000 In the mid-2000s, there was a wild decline in religious attendance.

00:51:55.000 It went from 44% in January of 2004 all the way down to 31% in January of 2023.

00:52:04.000 And again, if you look at the changes in church attendance by political party,

00:52:08.000 what you see is that it's declined markedly among Republicans,

00:52:10.000 but it's still way, way, way higher than among Democrats.

00:52:13.000 About 40% of Republicans say that they attend church weekly.

00:52:15.000 Only 25% of Democrats say they do.

00:52:18.000 Only 25% of Independents say they do.

00:52:22.000 And unsurprisingly, there is a high correlation between attendance at church and mental health.

00:52:28.000 This shouldn't be shocking in any way, shape, or form.

00:52:33.000 To some people it is, because there is a belief that secular humanism is gonna fill the gap, but secular humanism does not fill the gap.

00:52:38.000 Because again, religious observance is more than simply between you and God.

00:52:42.000 This is one of the things that Judaism makes very clear, is that there are commandments that are oriented between you and God.

00:52:48.000 You can do them on like a personal level.

00:52:49.000 If I say a blessing, for example, if I say a blessing over food, that is a question of me and God.

00:52:54.000 But there is also a question of me and my fellow man.

00:52:58.000 Right, the notion of b'ein adam l'chavero, which is like a person and his friend, versus adam l'makom, which is like a person and l'makom means place, but it really means God.

00:53:09.000 Those are two separate types of commandments, but the idea is that God is involved even in the relations between b'ein adam l'chavero.

00:53:16.000 These are not things that you can simply pick up yourself.

00:53:19.000 If you're talking about how you treat your fellow man, that has to exist within the context of God.

00:53:24.000 There's a third player there.

00:53:25.000 When you remove the third player, it turns out that the relations between you and your fellow man tend to disintegrate.

00:53:31.000 This should not be a shock.

00:53:32.000 But that's exactly the thing that Democrats cannot actually allow for because that might actually require religious obligation.

00:53:37.000 And that might undercut a lot of the arguments they like to make about value systems.

00:53:41.000 And so they're simply going to pretend that it's about the algorithm.

00:53:43.000 It's not about... By the way, even if it were the algorithm, you know what's the best way to fight the algorithm?

00:53:47.000 Religious church attendance.

00:53:49.000 That's actually the best way to fight the algorithm.

00:53:52.000 It's fairly amazing that this stuff even has to be said at this point.

00:53:58.000 And yet, it does.

00:54:00.000 I mean, it really, really does.

00:54:03.000 Decline in religion has been a net negative.

00:54:05.000 Not only a net negative, a massive net negative for the United States.

00:54:07.000 Okay, time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.

00:54:11.000 So, things that I like.

00:54:13.000 So, the Derek Chauvin Legal team is now taking the George Floyd murder conviction appeal to the United States Supreme Court.

00:54:21.000 According to the Daily Wire, attorneys representing former Minnesota police officer Derek Chauvin plan to ask the Supreme Court to review his second-degree murder charge in the death of George Floyd in 2020.

00:54:28.000 He's currently serving a 22.5-year prison sentence he received in June 2021 after a jury found him guilty on charges of second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter in the death of George Floyd.

00:54:41.000 The Minnesota Supreme Court declined to hear the case on Tuesday.

00:54:44.000 Lawyers argued that their client was deprived of the right to a fair trial by holding the proceedings in Minneapolis, which is very likely.

00:54:51.000 And they held the proceedings directly in the center of race riots.

00:54:54.000 Attorney William Moorman argued that Chauvin's criminal trial generated the most pre-trial publicity in human history, which is probably true.

00:55:01.000 Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison, another terrible person, said that denial from the state's highest court means the Court of Appeals is correct in finding his trial was properly conducted and he was properly convicted under the law.

00:55:11.000 So now they're appealing to the federal Supreme Court.

00:55:15.000 I only put this under things I like because I certainly hope the Supreme Court hears his case because it is difficult for me to imagine that Chauvin got a clean trial in that case.

00:55:23.000 The notion that he was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of those crimes is absolutely absurd on its face.

00:55:27.000 On its face.

00:55:28.000 The medical examination report showed no damage to the trachea.

00:55:31.000 No damage to the neck region.

00:55:33.000 George Floyd had an enlarged heart.

00:55:34.000 George Floyd was high on fentanyl.

00:55:36.000 George Floyd was begging to be let out of the car and put on the ground before he was.

00:55:40.000 He was saying, I can't breathe before Derek Chauvin was on his shoulder slash back.

00:55:45.000 Even the angle of the photographs that were taken.

00:55:48.000 The defense, the prosecution experts acknowledged that in the photos, Chauvin did not appear to be on George Floyd's carotid artery.

00:55:57.000 That trial is one of the great injustices in American history.

00:55:59.000 It truly, truly is, based on the evidence that was available.

00:56:01.000 Okay, time for a quick thing that I hate.

00:56:08.000 So there's apparently a weird TikTok trend.

00:56:10.000 I do not understand this TikTok trend at all.

00:56:13.000 It's very strange.

00:56:15.000 So apparently, according to the UK Guardian, if you haven't seen them yet, the videos are mesmerizing.

00:56:20.000 A content creator with long straight hair sits at her kitchen table rapidly stringing together nonsense catchphrases over and over with the same cheerful expression and tone.

00:56:28.000 We will play it for you in a second.

00:56:29.000 The trend is called NPC streaming, named after the non-playable characters in video games that awkwardly repeat pre-programmed phrases and movements.

00:56:36.000 Its most recognizable face is Pinkie Doll, a Montreal content creator whose Ice Cream So Good clips went viral this week.

00:56:42.000 Those phrases are actually her real-time reactions to gifts from her thousands of viewers, who send over digital ice cream cones, roses, donuts, and hearts, which pop up as cartoon graphics on the screen.

00:56:51.000 The gifts are worth anywhere from half a cent to a few bucks.

00:56:53.000 With a big audience, it adds up in a full day.

00:56:55.000 Pinkie Doll says she has netted more than $7,000.

00:56:59.000 Apparently, if you open up TikTok, you'll find plenty of imitators and parodies, each upping the ante of absurdity.

00:57:05.000 One young creator sits in the tub, fully clothed in a sombrero, greeting viewers in a robotic voice while feebly splashing water in a loop.

00:57:13.000 So, um, it is entertaining and disorienting, says the Guardian.

00:57:18.000 It's really kind of weird.

00:57:20.000 It's an in-joke, I suppose, because, you know, they're making fun of the fact that if you play any of these video games, like the Grand Theft Autos, that these characters inhabit this uncanny valley where they're basically sex dolls who keep repeating the same phrase over and over, but now they're doing it with live humans.

00:57:33.000 So it's like half a joke and half a weird quasi-pornographic thing, it appears to be the deal here.

00:57:38.000 Here is what it looks like and sounds like.

00:57:41.000 Thank you, Iron.

00:57:42.000 Yes, Barbie.

00:57:43.000 You got me feeling Barbie.

00:57:44.000 Where's Ken?

00:57:45.000 Cake, cake, cake, cake, cake.

00:57:47.000 Oh, thank you, Dad.

00:57:48.000 You got me feeling like a queen, huh?

00:57:50.000 Thank you, Nastia.

00:57:51.000 Thank you, Phoeba.

00:57:51.000 Oh, what is that?

00:57:52.000 Sleigh, huh?

00:57:53.000 Yes, yes, yes.

00:57:55.000 Ice cream's so good.

00:57:56.000 Pop.

00:57:56.000 Amazing.

00:57:57.000 Sleigh, huh?

00:57:58.000 Jade, I got you a name, Galaxy.

00:58:00.000 Wow.

00:58:00.000 A letter gift for you.

00:58:03.000 Thank you, miss.

00:58:03.000 Wow!

00:58:04.000 Firework!

00:58:06.000 This is the most beautiful firework I have ever seen in my life.

00:58:10.000 Oh, thank you, baby.

00:58:12.000 I love you.

00:58:13.000 Ice cream's so good.

00:58:14.000 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

00:58:16.000 Pop.

00:58:16.000 Amazing.

00:58:17.000 Oh, thank you, baby.

00:58:18.000 Where's my white dress?

00:58:19.000 We can match the flowers on my head.

00:58:20.000 Beautiful.

00:58:24.000 Okay, so, um, what?

00:58:27.000 So, my understanding is that this is the world that has been created by our video game addicted youth.

00:58:31.000 The youths.

00:58:32.000 So, basically what we have here is a nesting doll of insanity.

00:58:36.000 So, we created, we created video games that include women who are done up in a particular way, dressed like this, presumably, you know, with Hair that is straight because it's easier graphically, and makeup in a certain way, and cleavage, and all the rest of it.

00:58:52.000 And it's put in video games.

00:58:53.000 And then, because young males were playing these video games, and they were apparently, I suppose, turned on by the non-player characters, that this became sort of a meme.

00:59:03.000 And so now you have actual human women playing the non-playable characters.

00:59:07.000 So you had non-playable characters modeled on human women, but badly, and now you have women who are playing the non-playable characters who were playing originally humans.

00:59:15.000 And strangely, the non-playable characters are more human than the women who are playing the non-playable characters.

00:59:20.000 So, number one, is it any wonder that boys are having trouble connecting with girls like human women?

00:59:25.000 Because they're now operating at a twice remove from normal human women, who do not do what you say.

00:59:32.000 So part of this is obviously a sort of fetishistic control thing.

00:59:36.000 Boys who couldn't speak to a girl, who are getting a girl to say things to them, or say

00:59:42.000 things that they want them to say, treating women as essentially just meat puppets that

00:59:45.000 they can make say whatever they want, which is what a video game truly is, right?

00:59:49.000 They're digital meat puppets.

00:59:50.000 So you're getting these puppets to say whatever you want, but it's a real human girl, so I

00:59:53.000 suppose that's a weird turn on for some folks.

00:59:56.000 But again, it demonstrates that screens actually generate sickness, right?

01:00:00.000 At a certain point, when you're no longer communicating with actual human beings, you end up at this remove where you strip mine away what makes people human to just the things that you want about the people.

01:00:12.000 And that's really what this is, right?

01:00:13.000 Every layer, we're strip mining away what makes somebody human.

01:00:15.000 So what an NPC character in a video game is, a playable character means that you have a wide variety of things that you can do.

01:00:20.000 There's a bit of choice that's involved by you, the player, but an NPC is a character who's inhabiting the background or who says a set of phrases that they can only say, right?

01:00:30.000 There are no other phrases that they can say.

01:00:32.000 And so you've stripped, if NPC is to human, like a very basic robot, right?

01:00:38.000 It looks quasi humanoid in an uncanny valley way.

01:00:42.000 And it says a few human-like things, but it doesn't have any choice.

01:00:46.000 And it can only say a few of those things.

01:00:48.000 And then, but the idea is that that's not enough of a turn on scenario, you're going to put that,

01:00:52.000 what they like about the NPC characters they now want in the actual human.

01:00:55.000 A human who does precisely what you want, and says precisely the thing you want, and says a set set of phrases, and looks in a particular way.

01:01:03.000 If this is what you're expecting from women, gentlemen, good luck to you.

01:01:07.000 But you wonder why reproduction is going to go down in the West?

01:01:10.000 You wonder why people aren't getting married?

01:01:11.000 Why people aren't getting girlfriends?

01:01:13.000 Because when you strip mine away, what makes another human a human?

01:01:17.000 In favor of the thing that you get some sort of perverse pleasure from?

01:01:20.000 You can't have a relationship.

01:01:22.000 Let's be real about this.

01:01:22.000 Other human beings, messy, difficult.

01:01:25.000 Conversations, difficult.

01:01:28.000 I'm married for 15 years.

01:01:30.000 We have a wonderful, beautiful marriage, my wife and I. But the reality is that she's a separate human being from me with separate thoughts and feelings.

01:01:36.000 And we have to have conversations all the time about how I feel about things, how she feels about things.

01:01:40.000 We're constantly negotiating with one another.

01:01:43.000 That is what it means to have a relationship with a human being.

01:01:46.000 What we've done as a society, thanks to technology, is we've stripped mind away all of the difficult parts of relationship and what you come up with is a life-size human doll who says the things that you want it to say in a set order as you want it to say it.

01:02:01.000 And so, am I deeply worried about the technological future in which young men basically go get themselves sex dolls who can speak a few phrases to them and then they feel as though they've gotten what they want out of the bargain?

01:02:13.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm deeply concerned about that.

01:02:15.000 We've basically prepped an entire generation of young men to want exactly that.

01:02:18.000 It's what pornography has done.

01:02:19.000 Pornography is a way of strip-mining away what it means to be a woman.

01:02:23.000 The feminist movement wasn't wrong that pornography is dehumanizing.

01:02:26.000 Of course it's dehumanizing.

01:02:27.000 It's taking the part of what it means to be human and stripping it away in favor of the purely animalistic.

01:02:31.000 There's nothing else left.

01:02:33.000 It's fantasy.

01:02:35.000 This is, again, why the entire pornographic world exists inside the world of fantasy.

01:02:40.000 But fantasy is not reality.

01:02:41.000 And you know what it turns out?

01:02:43.000 Fantasy is not fulfilling either.

01:02:44.000 Fantasy is empty.

01:02:45.000 Fantasy is stupid.

01:02:46.000 And this is like the highest version of that.

01:02:48.000 This is the apotheosis of stupid, idiotic fantasy that strip minds away, everything it means to be human, in favor of just what appears to be bizarre crap on TikTok.

01:02:59.000 And I'm sure these ladies can make a lot of money from that, but that doesn't mean that what they're doing is good for women.

01:03:04.000 And gentlemen, if you are participating in this because you think it's, you know, memery or whatever, I would just, I would recommend that you think about, you know, maybe asking out an actual real life girl and having a conversation with her like a human being.

01:03:15.000 All right, guys, the rest of the show continues right now.

01:03:17.000 You're not going to miss it.

01:03:18.000 We'll be getting into RFK Jr.

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01:03:22.000 But apparently, according to Democrats, he's a wild anti-Semite.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - July 21, 2023

Democrats Declare RFK Jr. The Enemy

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