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00:00:00.000With no second debate between Trump and Biden, each candidate does a town hall with network news, Savannah Guthrie earns a job in the Biden White House, and fallout continues over social media's decision to weaponize on Joe Biden's behalf.
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00:01:30.000Alrighty, so last night we had two dueling town halls.
00:01:34.000It's where you cue dueling banjos because that's basically what it was.
00:01:38.000On one side, you had Joe Biden being treated to a massage from George Stepanopoulos.
00:01:42.000And on the other, you had what appeared to be some sort of sadistic ritual happening in which Savannah Guthrie basically whipped Donald Trump over and over and over and asked him to shout, may I have another?
00:01:55.000I mean, that was pretty much the dueling perspective.
00:01:58.000Like, you knew this is what was going to happen.
00:02:01.000This is the big problem with the media.
00:02:12.000Either everyone ought to get grilled or no one ought to get grilled.
00:02:14.000Either we ought to have an infomercial for Joe Biden and an infomercial for Donald Trump, or we ought to have a grilling for Joe Biden and a grilling for Donald Trump.
00:02:21.000But every single person who works in network news is going to vote for Joe Biden.
00:02:25.000And so they probably couldn't even identify anyone who's willing to show up and ask a tough question of Joe Biden.
00:02:29.000The scandal here really is not Savannah Guthrie's treatment of Trump, although it was egregious.
00:02:33.000And a lot of her questions I thought were poorly handled.
00:02:36.000I thought a lot of her questions were simply bad or irrelevant.
00:02:40.000The real scandal is that no one will ask Joe Biden a tough question or a follow-up tough question when he makes a stupid statement.
00:03:01.000You don't get to, as a media, proclaim that you're objective and then treat the two candidates in polar opposite ways.
00:03:07.000So the lead up to all of this was again demonstrative of the bias that is latent and actually in many cases open in the mainstream media.
00:03:16.000Remember that there was supposed to be a debate last night between Biden and Trump, which Trump frankly needs because Trump needs to be able to ask Biden questions that moderators simply will not ask Joe Biden or follow up on.
00:03:26.000Well, that debate got canceled specifically last week because Donald Trump came down with COVID.
00:03:31.000It was done without any medical input.
00:03:33.000It was done without any medical advice.
00:03:34.000It was done a week in advance of the debate.
00:03:39.000It mainly appeared like the Commission on Presidential Debate panicked, and like they wanted to give an excuse for the debate not to happen, and so they canceled it in advance, barring some sort of Zoom debate.
00:03:50.000And Trump said, I'm not doing a Zoom debate because Joe Biden's gonna read off a teleprompter, and also it allows you to mute me, and it totally kills the dynamics, so I'm not gonna do that.
00:03:58.000And the Commission on Presidential Debate said, well, we take COVID seriously.
00:04:01.000Okay, so you end up last night with two in-person town halls.
00:04:06.000So why couldn't they have just been, you know, in the same room, like far apart from one another?
00:04:11.000Especially because Trump now no longer transmits the disease.
00:04:13.000I mean, we now know that he's had at least two negative tests this week.
00:04:17.000We know that he was not going to transmit it to Joe Biden.
00:04:20.000In fact, of all human beings on planet Earth, the person who is least likely to transmit this disease to Joe Biden at this point is Donald Trump because he has now had it and he is no longer transmitting it, according to his own doctors.
00:04:37.000Steve Scully was supposed to be the actual moderator in that debate.
00:04:41.000Steve Scully of C-SPAN was supposed to be the moderator.
00:04:43.000He was suspended from C-SPAN last night.
00:04:46.000The reason that he was suspended is because he lied about his Twitter account being hacked.
00:04:50.000You'll recall that the Washington Journal host went viral last week after a tweet sent from his account indicated that he'd reached out to Anthony Scaramucci for advice.
00:04:58.000And then he claimed that he was hacked.
00:04:59.000He had not, in fact, reached out to Anthony Scaramucci for advice.
00:05:01.000It turns out that in the past, whenever he tweets something bad, he claims he is hacked.
00:05:08.000Well now, the C-SPAN administration has decided to suspend him without pay.
00:05:14.000Scully wrote, For several weeks, I was subjected to relentless criticism on social media and in conservative news outlets regarding my role as moderator for the second presidential debate, including attacks aimed directly at my family.
00:05:24.000This culminated on Thursday, October 8th, when I heard President Trump go on national television twice and falsely attack me by name.
00:05:29.000Out of frustration, I sent a brief tweet addressed to Anthony Scaramucci.
00:05:32.000The next morning, when I saw the tweet had created a controversy, I falsely claimed my Twitter account had been hacked.
00:05:37.000These were both errors in judgment for which I am totally responsible.
00:05:41.000C-SPAN issued a statement revealing that the network and the Commission on Presidential Debates were made aware about Scully's fabrication on Wednesday.
00:05:47.000They said, We are very saddened by this news and do not condone his actions.
00:05:50.000Starting immediately, we have placed Steve on administrative leave.
00:05:53.000After some distance from this episode, we believe in his ability to continue to contribute to C-SPAN.
00:05:57.000President Trump immediately went on Twitter and tweeted about it.
00:06:00.000Of course, he said, I was right again.
00:06:01.000Steve Scully just admitted he was lying about his Twitter being hacked.
00:06:17.000T'was I. OK, so Steve Scully was suspended.
00:06:20.000And then in the lead up to the debate, We had input in which many members of the media were very angry that NBC would even allow some sort of town hall with the sitting president of the United States.
00:06:45.000Members of the press were fighting mad.
00:06:47.000How could NBC counter-program Joe Biden with Donald Trump?
00:06:50.000I mean, Joe Biden's a good person and Donald Trump's a bad person.
00:06:54.000We should never let NBC News ask tough questions of Donald Trump.
00:06:58.000So it was pretty obvious where this was going from the outset, right?
00:07:00.000As soon as NBC News started getting pressure, it was fairly obvious they were going to go to somebody like Savannah Guthrie and say, OK, we want you to grill the living hell out of Trump.
00:07:09.000The entire Hollywood infrastructure mobilized to tell NBC News how bad they were.
00:07:15.000According to The Hollywood Reporter, J.J.
00:07:17.000Abrams, Anna DuVernay, and Mariska Hargitay were among 100 top Hollywood players protesting at NBC's Trump Town Hall.
00:07:23.000I noticed none of them decided to forfeit their pay from NBC if they work for NBC.
00:07:28.000According to The Hollywood Reporter, The group wrote, Wow.
00:07:48.000The list of heavyweights who signed the letter of protest includes JJ Avery, Abrams, Law & Order SVU star Mariska Hargitay, This Is Us creator Dan Fogelman, and Ava DuVernay.
00:08:00.000You mean Hollywood celebrities don't like a thing that's happening so they wrote a letter?
00:08:08.000Speaking of stunning bravery, later on in the show we're going to deconstruct some culture because Demi Lovato has put out a piece of unbelievably Incomparably stunning bravery.
00:08:17.000The amazing, stunning bravery of people in Hollywood to signal that they don't like Donald Trump.
00:08:20.000I mean, my God, listen, the career risk it requires in Hollywood to say that you don't like the orange man bad.
00:08:26.000My, these people should all be given congressional medals of honor.
00:08:29.000These people, they're like the people who walked, who stormed the beaches of Normandy.
00:08:34.000They wrote a letter to NBCUniversal saying that they're big mads and they have the sads about Donald Trump being on NBC answering questions from Savannah Guthrie.
00:08:55.000And our Hollywood betters, they know that we should never, ever allow the sitting president of the United States to do a town hall on network news.
00:09:54.000The group includes such top NBC talent as Chris Maloney, and This Is Us star Sterling K. Brown, as well as heavyweights Aaron Sorkin, Greg Berlanti, Ryan Murphy, and Seth MacFarlane, Wow, with a list of diverse political people like that, I mean, that is clearly a bipartisan letter.
00:10:08.000How dare NBC provide a forum for Donald Trump?
00:10:13.000NBC provided a statement from Dr. H. Clifford Layton, clinical director of the National Institutes of Health, in which he said that he and Dr. Anthony Fauci had reviewed Trump's medical data and concluded with a high degree of confidence the president was not shedding infectious virus.
00:10:26.000NBC had said it would not rely solely on Trump's doctor's word.
00:10:31.000was drafted, numerous current and former NBCUniversal staff members had expressed anger and disdain for the network's decision to schedule Trump's event at the same time as ABC's event with Biden.
00:10:40.000I don't think many of us are proud of this moment, one current NBC exec told THR.
00:11:12.000They wrote, we believe this kind of indifference to the norms and rules of our democracy are what have brought our country to this perilous state.
00:11:18.000Okay, I'm just going to point out that if we're talking about indifference to the norms and rules of our democracy, you literally are backing a candidate who will not answer whether he pledges to kill the Supreme Court by packing it, kill the filibuster, pack the Senate with additional states.
00:11:32.000You believe that constitutional freedoms ought to be overridden at the behest of a bare majority of social liberals.
00:11:38.000So, um, yeah, don't don't lecture me on norms and decency when you're talking about whether the president should be able to answer questions on NBC News.
00:12:12.000Patton Oswalt, the voice of the rat from Ratatouille, signed this letter.
00:12:16.000If Seth Rogen signed this letter, a dude who hasn't been not high for more than 30 seconds in the past 25 years signed this letter, I'm on board.
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00:15:19.000He allowed Joe to not only speak, but speak at length.
00:15:20.000He asked him very non-difficult questions for Joe Biden.
00:15:23.000to account from the Media Research Center, as opposed to Joe Biden, who was interviewed by a very friendly George Stephanopoulos, who basically got out the massage oils and went to work on Slow Joe. He allowed Joe to not only speak, but speak at length.
00:15:37.000He asked him very non-difficult questions for Joe Biden, and he didn't interrupt him nearly at all.
00:15:43.000That was not the tenor for Savannah Producer Colton was watching this in real time, and he was flipping back and forth.
00:15:48.000He told me this morning that if you wanted to back the narrative that Trump has created and has pointed out about the media disparity, all you had to do was flip channels.
00:15:57.000Because on one channel, you were watching Joe Biden have a cup of tea with George Stephanopoulos, former Clinton staffer, Stephanopoulos.
00:16:02.000And on the other channel, you were watching Savannah Guthrie take out the old-style 1960s paddle and just whack Trump with it.
00:16:10.000So here was Savannah Guthrie, who earned herself a spot in the Biden administration, and now the media are just reveling in this.
00:16:16.000I mean, they love it because this was the mandate, right?
00:16:18.000The mandate was she had to be mean to Trump, and she was mean to Trump.
00:16:21.000So here is how Variety described Savannah Guthrie's performance, of course, because it's not about getting information to the American public.
00:16:27.000It is about how the anchors perform under pressure to be mean to the bad orange man who is orange, bad, and fat.
00:16:33.000Here is Variety, quote, President Trump wanted to run and ramble.
00:16:38.000Now, let's just point out that Joe Biden has been running and rambling, running from cameras and rambling throughout this entire campaign, and the media have absolutely let him do it.
00:16:47.000But according to Variety, it was Savannah Guthrie she pinned Trump down.
00:16:51.000In what may be the performance of a career.
00:16:54.000Okay, so first of all, the fact that we are now describing news anchors as performers is kind of gross, right?
00:16:59.000Normally, when you have news anchors asking questions, it shouldn't be, oh, their performance.
00:17:03.000It was like that quote performance of a career could describe both Glenn Close in the new Hillbilly Elegy trailer and also Savannah Guthrie in this town hall with Trump.
00:17:13.000In what may be the performance of a career, the popular Today anchor kept a tight rein on the proceedings of a controversial town hall event in Miami with President Trump that put the network's parent, NBCUniversal, in the crosshairs of critics and Hollywood A-listers.
00:17:26.000Many consumers have rebuked NBC for its decision to put Trump opposite a similar discussion his Democratic challenger Joe Biden had with ABC News and George Stephanopoulos at the same time.
00:17:35.000Okay, so again, the left creates a controversy and then off the back of that controversy, they demand They demand that the NBC News anchors perform as brutally to Trump as possible.
00:17:49.000For just under 60 minutes on NBC, Guthrie held Trump to account, asking him if he had in fact contracted pneumonia while infected, why he had a problem making a definitive dismissal of white supremacy, telling him he had no legal defense against the release of his much sought after tax returns, asking him to denounce conspiracy theories held by some of his backers.
00:18:06.000I'm impressed with Guthrie's preparedness so far.
00:18:07.000She's been ready for some of Trump's regular false claims, said Daniel Dale, the CNN fact-checking correspondent via Twitter.
00:18:12.000Even close observers of the news industry and the current outrageous political cycle gave her kudos.
00:18:17.000I'm impressed with Guthrie's preparedness so far.
00:18:19.000She's been ready for some of Trump's regular false claims, said Daniel Dale, the CNN fact-checking correspondent via Twitter.
00:18:25.000Daniel Dale has reached new levels of prominence because he does these sort of fact-checks where he takes everything that Trump says and then, like, down to the minutest of detail, fact-checks them while doing nothing similar to Joe Biden.
00:18:36.000Daniel Dale has been a partisan actor.
00:18:38.000He was for I think with the Toronto Star where he accused me of being responsible for a mass shooting.
00:19:21.000I mean, as the Trump-Pence campaign put out a statement, they said, President Trump masterfully handled Guthrie's attacks and interacted warmly and effectively with voters in the room.
00:19:29.000Anyway, and President Trump soundly defeated NBC's Savannah Guthrie in her role as debate opponent and Joe Biden's surrogate.
00:19:35.000President Trump masterfully handled Guthrie's attacks and interacted warmly and effectively with voters in the room.
00:19:39.000Over on NBC, it was a completely different scene as once again, Biden was kept comfortable and away from any questions that might challenge him.
00:19:45.000Americans can see that President Trump is leading the country, etc, etc, etc.
00:19:48.000That's Tim Murtaugh, the Trump 2020 Communications Director.
00:19:51.000Whatever you think of Trump's performance, the characterization of how the media treat the two candidates is obviously true.
00:19:56.000You'll see the compare and contrast here.
00:19:58.000Here's Savannah Guthrie debating Trump on mask wearing.
00:20:02.000If everyone wore a mask, you could cut expected deaths in half.
00:20:17.000He's one of the great experts of the world.
00:20:18.000But I don't get it because you have so much power and influence as president.
00:20:22.000You could go to your, you could require it at your rallies.
00:20:26.000Okay, so again, that is not Savannah Guthrie asking a question.
00:20:36.000That is Savannah Guthrie talking over him and not allowing him to answer the question.
00:20:40.000And by the way, there are a good number of doctors, including doctors for the Greater Barrington Declaration, which is now being basically suppressed by social media.
00:20:50.000The Great Barrington Declaration essentially suggests that if you are young and healthy, then you should be pursuing Herd immunity.
00:20:56.000If you're 20 years old, then you probably shouldn't be wearing a mask as long as you stay away from people who are older and vulnerable.
00:21:01.000And when Trump says that there is still controversy over masking, there is controversy over masking.
00:21:04.000In Northern Europe, a lot of countries don't mask.
00:23:08.000Even in Charlottesville, where I harangued him for not being fast enough to condemn white supremacists on the first day, because he said there were many people there with many different views on the first day, and then he corrected it.
00:23:18.000And then in that second statement, which happened on Saturday, he overtly said, when he was talking about quote-unquote good people, he said, I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis.
00:23:26.000I'm not talking about the white supremacists who should be thoroughly condemned.
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00:25:37.000Okay, so the worst exchange for Guthrie, and this of course was one the media celebrated most, was Savannah Guthrie going after Trump on white supremacy.
00:25:44.000Again, Trump has condemned this thing like 1,000 times.
00:25:47.000And every exchange about white supremacy goes the same way.
00:27:58.000But there were a couple of moments that were just bad for Trump.
00:28:01.000And the reason they were bad for Trump, and these are the ones that will, of course, go viral, is because Trump makes trouble for himself on Twitter.
00:28:22.000And the fact that Trump tweets out crazy things and retweets crazy things, and then he's asked questions about them, and then his natural instinct is to defend the crazy thing that he tweeted, is not particularly a good look.
00:28:33.000I mean, today, how bad is Twitter for Trump?
00:29:32.000He said that Big T was not a reference to me, it was rather a reference to Big Tech, which should have been properly pointed out in Twitter's fake trending section.
00:29:40.000I mean, that is... So, that's just a dumb thing that Trump tweeted today.
00:29:44.000Those kinds of things, they allow the media to avoid focusing in on Joe Biden, which is what Trump needs if he wishes to win.
00:29:50.000So, Guthrie focused in on Trump's tweets, because this is the easiest way to do a negative interview with Trump, is to point out the fact that the guy tweets on the toilet all day long, and that he tweets some dumb things.
00:29:59.000So here she was going after Trump on QAnon.
00:30:02.000Do you think that Trump has great familiarity with QAnon?
00:30:04.000Like, this is a pretty easy answer, is the truth.
00:32:04.000If somebody says a nice thing about him, he immediately gives them the benefit of the doubt because everything is refracted through the prism of Trump's ego.
00:32:10.000Every single thing in the world, this is his big problem as a person.
00:32:15.000Everything is refracted through the prism of his own ego.
00:32:17.000It's true for Barack Obama too, it's just that Trump is much more gauche about it.
00:32:23.000Same kind of thing yesterday, Trump retweeted a bizarre conspiracy theory about how Osama Bin Laden was not actually killed on Barack Obama's orders, and it was all staged, and crap like this.
00:32:35.000So again, this provides an easy avenue of attack for Savannah Guthrie, who went after Trump on this.
00:32:42.000Why would you send a lie like that to your followers?
00:32:57.000That was a retweet, and I do a lot of retweets, and frankly, because the media is so fake and so corrupt, If I didn't have social media, I don't call it Twitter, I call it social media, I wouldn't be able to get the word out.
00:33:11.000And the word is... Okay, this defense is insufficient.
00:33:13.000Okay, it's true that he uses Twitter to get a message out.
00:33:16.000The messages he chooses to get out are very often stupid, so...
00:33:19.000Savannah Guthrie doing her best to justify NBC News even holding this event by going after Trump on issues small and stupid and really avoiding some of the larger issues in the country right now.
00:33:30.000Meanwhile, you flipped on over the channel and Joe Biden was just sitting out there on a Hawaiian beach sipping a cocktail with an umbrella in it.
00:33:37.000Yeah, basically just lounging around, having somebody massages weird hairy leg or something.
00:33:44.000That's what was going on over on the other news networks.
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00:35:09.000The entire news cycle over the last 48 hours has been about this Hunter Biden story, where it turns out that Hunter Biden was brokering influence in Ukraine.
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00:35:19.000We got questions about every other topic.
00:35:21.000No real hard follow-ups, but not a single question about Hunter Biden.
00:36:14.000They should make it so that you can't pull the trigger finger, like in the movies.
00:36:17.000This is what Joe Biden actually thinks.
00:36:18.000Okay, so the way that law enforcement actually works is that in the heat of the moment, when you have just a split second to react, many of the shots go wild.
00:36:26.000This is why you are taught to fire until the threat is neutralized.
00:36:29.000You are taught to fire at center of body mass specifically because very often you cannot aim at a particular part of the body.
00:36:35.000This comes from somebody who obviously has never really tried handling a handgun and certainly not in a pressure situation.
00:36:40.000This idiotic notion that you can train police to shoot at limbs is the stupidest garbage ever put forth by people who talk about guns.
00:37:28.000Why don't the cops take out a lightsaber and just, like, you know, melt the bullets that are being shot at them and then go over and disarm the person by, like, cutting off their arm like Luke Skywalker does or like Obi-Wan Kenobi or something?
00:37:41.000In fact, why don't the cops just use Wonder Woman's Lasso of Truth and actually just This is a presidential candidate who's supposed to be your serious presidential candidate.
00:37:54.000Speaking of serious presidential candidates, Joe Biden was asked once again on court packing, once again, he declined to answer.
00:37:59.000He was not pressed by George Stephanopoulos.
00:38:01.000He said, don't worry, I'll tell you at some point.
00:38:18.000If they vote on it before the election, you are open to expanding the court?
00:38:22.000I'm open to considering what happens from that point on.
00:38:26.000You know, you've said so many times during the campaign, all through the course of your career, it's important to level with the American people.
00:38:32.000It is, but George, if I say, no matter what answer I gave you, if I say it, that's the headline tomorrow.
00:38:38.000It won't be about what's going on now, the improper way they're proceeding.
00:38:41.000But don't voters have a right to know?
00:38:43.000They do have a right to know where I stand, and they'll have a right to know where I stand before they vote.
00:38:48.000So you'll come out with a clear position before election day?
00:38:50.000Yes, depending on how they handle this.
00:40:05.000So a mother of a child who believes that he is transgender, an 8-year-old, 8 years old, gets up and says, you know, Joe, what are you going to do for kids like mine, a boy who believes he's a girl, who believes he is transgender, and Joe Biden says we should allow 8-year-olds and 10-year-olds to transition.
00:40:43.000There's not evidence to back that this is a good idea.
00:40:46.000But this is the left propaganda, which is that you can identify as a member of the opposite sex, You can just pick your opposite sex at the age of eight.
00:40:56.000Here's Joe Biden spilling this one out there.
00:40:57.000And he's going to effectuate federal policy in order to make this clear.
00:41:01.000So if you are a religious school, for example, then he is going to make it so that if a little boy comes in, and he now wants to identify as a little girl, and he wants to go to the girls' school.
00:41:10.000Because in a lot of religious communities, you have a separate boys' school and a separate girls' school.
00:41:13.000Mainly because once they hit teenage years, you want to keep those kids separated.
00:41:17.000Okay, but they have separate boys' schools and separate girls' schools.
00:41:20.000This is very traditional in the religious community.
00:41:21.000It's very traditional in the Jewish community, Catholic community, Evangelical Protestant community, that Joe Biden will be the kind of person who believes that you should be able to take your boy and enlist that kid in the girls' school, and the school should simply deal with it.
00:41:35.000Not only that, on a fundamental level, believing that an eight-year-old should be able to transition is madness.
00:42:23.000There is no reason to suggest that there should be any right denied your daughter or daughters, whichever one or two, one, your daughter, that your other daughter has a right to be and do.
00:42:53.000And not only that, it will reach the point in American politics, in very, very short order, because you're already seeing the early indicators, where if you as a parent say no to this, the government will intervene.
00:43:06.000If you have an 8-year-old and your 8-year-old goes to school, your 8-year-old boy goes to school, and he says to the teacher, I feel like a girl today.
00:43:11.000And then, the next day, your 8-year-old boy goes to school and he tells the teacher, you know, I went home, I told mommy I feel like a girl, and mommy said, you're not a girl, you're a boy.
00:43:24.000Within the next five years, this will become rote.
00:43:26.000Okay, that is something that is incredibly dangerous to children, it's incredibly dangerous to families, it's incredibly dangerous to basic human reason.
00:43:37.000It is radical and it is... To say an eight-year-old should be able to transition is pretty horrifying on every possible level.
00:43:44.000But it's treated as totally, not only normal, but sympathetic and good.
00:43:47.000Because eight-year-olds should be able to make their own decisions on everything, including what sex they are, in contravention of reality.
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00:45:21.000Okay, we'll get to more of this in just one second.
00:45:24.000First, you don't want to miss another great episode of the Sunday Special coming up this weekend.
00:45:27.000We will be joined by journalist Megan Kelly to discuss the media bias against Trump, Roger Ailes and the movie Bombshell, why she left Fox, and the real question, what is her take on her interaction with Trump during the 2016 Republican presidential campaign?
00:45:39.000So, go watch early over at DailyWire.com or listen this Sunday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever else you get your podcasts.
00:45:47.000If you want to see a bit of the trailer, you asked for it, here it is.
00:45:50.000I'm worried about the kids who get this, the teenagers who get maligned as awful bigots, racists, xenophobes, transphobes, just for having an opinion that may not go with the mainstream now.
00:46:02.000How the media shames people out of an honestly held or a religiously held opinion on controversial issues.
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00:46:57.000Okay, so speaking of Joe Biden and his answers.
00:47:33.000But you can say, you can go to every governor and get them all in a room, all 50 of them as president, and say, ask people to wear the mask.
00:48:04.000Also, he did change his position on taxes.
00:48:06.000So finally, Joe Biden recognized that saying that he was going to repeal Trump's tax cuts raises your taxes, which, by the way, fact checkers had said was false.
00:49:04.000Now he's changed his position, so I guess we're good now.
00:49:07.000Finally, Joe Biden concluded by saying he's going to be a unifying president, which comes as kind of a shock to everybody who's watched Joe Biden across the course of his career.
00:49:15.000A black voter asked him, so, you know, you keep saying things about race.
00:49:19.000I'm just wondering if you have anything to appeal to black voters with other than you're not black if you don't vote for me.
00:49:26.000Unless we are able to treat people equally, we're just never going to meet our potential.
00:49:31.000But I think the American people want to see that happen.
00:49:34.000I think they're ready to see it happen.
00:49:36.000And I'll tell you one thing, if I'm elected president, you will not hear me race-baiting, you'll not hear me dividing, you'll hear me trying to unify.
00:49:43.000And unify with, bring people together.
00:49:46.000When I said I was running because I wanted to unify the country, people said, well, they were the old days.
00:49:53.000We're going to unify again, says Joe Biden, a man who said that Mitt Romney is going to put black people back in chains.
00:50:00.000No one has been as unifying as Joe Biden over the course of his career, from criminal justice to now rejecting his own criminal justice in 1994, from suggesting that America is systemically racist to saying that you're not black if you don't vote for him.
00:50:12.000No one has done racial unity quite like Joe Biden.
00:50:16.000What a stellar, stellar dude, Joe Biden.
00:50:19.000Okay, so that was the story of last night.
00:50:21.000The story of last night was these contrasts.
00:50:24.000Obviously, there are contrasts between Joe Biden and how he acts and how Donald Trump acts, and those were exacerbated last night by the media coverage.
00:51:13.000True balance is you ask hard questions to conservatives and you ask easy questions to liberals, and that's what the media are here to do.
00:51:20.000To me, that's a bigger and more long-lasting issue than whatever happens in the upcoming election in early November.
00:51:26.000Okay, so speaking of that, speaking of issues that are going to long outlast this election, We have to talk about the continuing fallout from this social media debacle.
00:51:34.000So social media stepped in it over the last 48 hours in an unprecedented way.
00:51:38.000They decided to ban the distribution of a New York Post story that they could not debunk.
00:51:42.000So there was this New York Post story.
00:51:44.000It was Hunter Biden's emails come out.
00:51:46.000One of those emails suggests that Hunter Biden has brokered a meeting between a Burisma executive and Joe Biden.
00:51:50.000Joe Biden's people originally say it was not officially on the calendar.
00:51:52.000Then later they say, okay, maybe there was a little bit of a meeting.
00:51:56.000That doesn't mean that Joe Biden shaped Ukraine policy in order to benefit his son, Hunter.
00:52:00.000It does mean that Joe Biden has for years been looking the other way while members of his family trade off his name to make money, which is a tacit promise of some sort of corrupt relationship between Biden and the rest of his family.
00:52:13.000Because if Biden were truly going to be the upstanding moral character that he purports to be, he would have said to his family, stop using my name in order to make money by promising access to me that I'm not going to give.
00:52:34.000They said that we don't want to put out this story at all.
00:52:36.000They blocked people from tweeting out the URL.
00:52:39.000They blocked people's accounts if they did tweet out the URL.
00:52:42.000And they said they were doing this to prevent unauthorized material from getting out there, which, by the way, is every single news story for the last 50, 60 years is an unauthorized leak.
00:53:07.000On the basis of the Biden team denying it, purely on that, based on nothing else, Twitter and Facebook decide that they're going to restrict the distribution of the story.
00:53:15.000Then the Biden team says, hey, look, Twitter and Facebook are restricting the story.
00:54:44.000Now, a normal journalistic response to tweeting a link from a mainstream paper like the New York Post and then being banned for it or suspended for it is, what is this service doing?
00:54:52.000Isn't this a crackdown on the free press?
00:54:53.000I've been told that every time Trump says something nasty about the press, that he is violating the rights of the free press.
00:54:57.000I keep hearing this over and over and over.
00:54:59.000Here you have actual journalists being silenced on Twitter for tweeting out a link and the journalists go on bended knee and ask for forgiveness.
00:55:39.000He tweeted out a link to another story.
00:55:41.000Twitter suspended his account, and he apologized for having tweeted the link.
00:55:46.000Imagine if this had come from the Trump administration, that Jake Sherman had put out a piece of information, and the Trump administration had done something in retaliation.
00:55:54.000That would be a violation of every First Amendment standard.
00:55:57.000Now, I understand the government is not the same thing as Twitter or Facebook, but the fact that he is apologizing for it is the problem, right?
00:56:03.000I'm not focusing in on the action so much as I am on the reaction.
00:56:07.000You have social media actively telling journalists they cannot tweet links that Twitter and Facebook don't like.
00:56:11.000And journalists going, oh, well, you know, if they say so, and if it was offensive to Biden, I guess I'm so sorry.
00:56:16.000I mean, this is a Maoist struggle session on Twitter.
00:56:19.000And frankly, until he actually brings some form of animal sacrifice in penitence for what he has done here, I think it's completely insufficient.
00:56:26.000Unless he does the work and does the reading, I think that Jake Sherman should not be let back into the good halls of society.
00:56:33.000It's such a self-own by the social media companies because the only people who are out there defending the freedom of the social media companies were people with conservative slash libertarian leanings like me.
00:56:45.000And you just cut out all the ground from under us.
00:56:48.000Trump yesterday suggested that Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act should be rewritten to remove protections for companies like Twitter and Facebook.
00:56:56.000Now, I've been a defender of Section 230.
00:56:58.000Section 230 was originally written in order to allow people to moderate their comments.
00:57:06.000Spammed with pornography, or it was being spammed with garbage or abuse, and now you could remove all of that content.
00:57:13.000Because before, the idea was that if you remove that content, then you were responsible for all the content in your comment section, because you were editing it, and now you were legally liable in the same way as if I hire a writer over at Daily Wire.
00:57:25.000You're not responsible for your comment section, but you can curate the content so that you don't end up with a trash heap in your comment section.
00:57:31.000We're not going to punish you for making your comment section less garbage-y.
00:57:35.000This has been used by Twitter and by Facebook to curate content in a politically partisan way, most obviously this time.
00:58:37.000There is one proposal that's on the table that seems a little bit better.
00:58:40.000That is a proposal to change the standard in section 230.
00:58:43.000So section 230 says, no provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be held liable on account of any action voluntarily taken in good faith to restrict access to or availability of material that the provider or user considers to be obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable.
00:59:01.000It's the otherwise objectionable phraseology that people are now looking to change.
00:59:07.000If somebody's posting porn in your comments, you should be able to remove it.
00:59:09.000I think if somebody is posting stuff that is obviously racist, you should be able to remove it.
00:59:13.000If somebody's harassing somebody in your comments section, you should be able to remove it.
00:59:16.000But there is a case to be made that otherwise objectionable is too broad because it basically is a catch-all that allows you to act as a publisher by default, right?
00:59:26.000That you're now editing your comment section to only allow commentary from NBC News.
00:59:30.000Right, and so now you're basically responsible for, you're just a mirror of NBC News.
01:00:53.000These 26-year-old singers shared a screenshot on her Instagram stories of a comment she received after releasing the music video.
01:00:59.000The comment read in part, I'm personally ashamed to be a Lovatic right now, but no matter how hard it is, I'm not letting this song change my feelings about you, especially after everything you've helped me with.
01:01:11.000I really hope this doesn't ruin your career, Demetria.
01:01:37.000As much as I would like to be sad that I disappointed you, I'm too busy being bummed that you expect me, a queer Hispanic woman, to silence my views and beliefs in order to please my audience.
01:03:03.000What if she sang a song and the song were, the Bible is wrong.
01:03:08.000In Hollywood, wow, the blowback, the blowback.
01:03:11.000But she said something even more controversial than any of those things.
01:03:14.000Donald Trump is a mean, bad, orange man who's fat, orange, and mean.
01:03:17.000And you are not allowed to say that in Hollywood.
01:03:20.000I mean, if you talk about somebody who's really taking a risk, somebody who's really stepping out front, willing to take the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune in order to defend a belief system that is deeply unpopular with her peers, it is Demi Lovato in Hollywood saying that Donald Trump is a mean, bad man.
01:03:40.000I learned, by the way, I learned so many things during that WAP debacle.
01:03:44.000I learned that people on the left don't understand basic humor.
01:03:47.000So you could do like a full 10 minute segment, a laughing 10 minute segment about how dumb the song is.
01:03:52.000And you can cynically analyze the medical conditions necessary to have to require a bucket and a mop.
01:03:59.000And somehow people will take you seriously if it serves their purposes to do so.
01:04:03.000So I feel like we should really take this as seriously as possible.
01:04:06.000Okay, I'm going to try not to be sarcastic or caustic in any way when I analyze this song, Commander-in-Chief, because I've learned that people on the left have no sense of humor at all.
01:04:15.000So we'll try to be deeply serious in our analysis of this.
01:04:18.000I learned, by the way, during that WAP debacle, I learned that if you can kind of rhyme words that are super obscene, But not really rhyme them, but kind of come close, like in the general neighborhood where the vowels sound similar.
01:04:30.000They're not even like the same vowels, but like kind of similar.
01:04:33.000And if you can make a music video with liquid, with vaginal fluid flowing out the front door, literally flowing out the front door of a home.
01:04:44.000If you do that, it's just like the Merry Wives of Windsor by Shakespeare.
01:04:55.000So, I mean, our standards have been set quite high here.
01:04:57.000So we'll see if Demi Lovato can hit those standards.
01:04:59.000Here is Demi Lovato warbling Commander-in-Chief, which I haven't, I'll be honest with you, I've only seen some of the lyrics.
01:05:06.000I haven't actually listened to the song, but I can guarantee you that because it's so stunning and so brave, it is also artistically incredible.
01:05:12.000Before I even listen to it, I know, I know that it is a piece of artistic genius.
01:05:17.000I know that when we write the list of songs that aliens 1,000 years from now will look at when they try to discern the best of human civilization, this will be up there.
01:05:30.000It will be like Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, it will be Hamlet, and it will be Demi Lovato's Commander-in-Chief.
01:05:36.000I haven't even listened to it yet, but I know because of the bravery, because it is just so brave.
01:05:38.000So here's some bravery being super brave, courageously courageous, stunning, go.
01:06:06.000That's been affected and resented every story of spun and I'm a lucky one Wow, that old white guy sounds exactly like that Haven't they suffered enough he's wearing a mega hat too And here's a guy who apparently is Sikh.
01:06:26.000And praying for rain do you get a fun pain? We're not puns in your game. Oh, everybody's getting a great Honestly Everybody's very upset. I couldn't sleep seriously. Oh, well Do you even know that?
01:06:45.000It's a bunch of close-ups, a moving close-up of very diverse people of various weights, genders, orientations, colors, all singing the same song, and lip-singing to Demi Lovato, because Demi Lovato is all of us.
01:08:30.000I'm sorry, I tried to stay serious, but this is self-parody.
01:08:35.000So I'm going to read you the lyrics, because I was talking over some of them, and I think they deserve to be given their full poetic respect.
01:08:40.000Here is, here are the lyrics, you ready?
01:08:42.000Were you ever taught when you were young, if you mess with things selfishly, they're bound to come undone?
01:08:46.000I'm not the only one that's been affected and resented every story you've spun.
01:11:28.000But I'm talking about something else that is indicative of all human relations.
01:11:32.000I'm talking about the story of Cain and Abel.
01:11:34.000So we're gonna give it a bit of a close read right here.
01:11:36.000Because I think that in order to understand anything that goes on with politics or human nature, you have to understand Human beings have not changed.
01:13:08.000Is it not so that if you improve, it will be forgiven you?
01:13:10.000If you do not improve, however, at the entrance, sin is lying, and to you is its longing, but you can rule over it.
01:13:15.000There's a beautiful section in John Steinbeck's East of Eden that's all about this, right?
01:13:19.000The word Timshal, that you can rule over it, that you have an evil inclination and your job as a human being is to learn to rule over that evil inclination.
01:13:27.000So, people for thousands of years have talked about the question, why did God favor Abel over Cain in this particular scenario?
01:13:36.000And it occurred to me reading it this year that God actually is not favoring Abel over Cain.
01:13:41.000In accepting Abel's offering, it's not really that God is doing something nice for Abel while doing something cruel to Cain.
01:13:49.000He's actually doing something nice to Cain.
01:13:50.000He's offering him the opportunity to do what his parents could not.
01:13:54.000He's offering him the ability to grow beyond himself.
01:13:57.000He's offering him the ability to repent.
01:13:59.000He's offering him the ability to get better.
01:14:04.000And this is the divine speaking to humankind and saying to all human beings, sin lies at your door, but you can rise above it because you are better than this, because you have the capacity to change yourself.
01:14:13.000You have the capacity to make your own life better by recognizing where you have failed and then working to rectify that breach.
01:17:17.000Now, what is the purpose of having that story in there?
01:17:19.000The story is not really about Cain and his descendants because they really become irrelevant to the story of the Jewish people, which follows in the five books of Moses.
01:17:52.00090% of their life sucking is not their fault.
01:17:54.000But for the vast majority of human beings, your choice and your fate is in your hands.
01:17:57.000And that is the story of Cain and Abel.
01:17:59.000If you let jealousy overcome you, if you fight against the reality, which is that you have a sinful nature, if you fight against the reality, which is sometimes life ain't gonna go your way, and you need to change and adapt to that reality, if you fight that, then you end up being condemned.
01:18:12.000If, however, you get the message, Team Shawl, if you rise above it, then you become a better, a different human being worthy of God's protection.
01:18:19.000Alrighty, I hope you have a wonderful weekend.
01:18:21.000We'll be back here on Monday for more.