The Ben Shapiro Show - February 22, 2019


Empire Of Lies | Ep. 723


Episode Stats

Length

58 minutes

Words per Minute

213.69583

Word Count

12,576

Sentence Count

831

Misogynist Sentences

15

Hate Speech Sentences

17


Summary

Jussie Smollett heads back to Hollywood, the justice system utterly fails underage victims of a major political donor, and voter fraud is a reality. Ben Shapiro's new book is out now! Watch it here and be sure to subscribe on your favorite streaming platform so you never miss an episode. If you don't think we are sitting on a house of cards, you are living with your head in the sand. The U.S. national debt was $10 trillion in 2008, today, that debt is nearly $22 trillion, and it's rising like a hockey stick. What are you waiting for? Today's After Show Was Hosted By: Ben Shapiro, Sr. Ben Shapiro is the host of The Ben Shapiro Show on CBS Radio and is a regular contributor to the New York Times, CNN, and other media outlets. He is also the author of the best selling book Race Hoax: The Untold Story and hosts the radio show on SiriusXM Radio. Subscribe to his new podcast and become a supporter of his work, wherever he goes. Thank you for supporting the work you do it. It really is that good, Ben Shapiro s work really does mean the world, and we can t do it better than that. Thank you very much to Ben Shapiro for being a friend of Ben Shapiro on the road, too much more than you can do that, too good to be a good friend of him on the good vibes, good work, good vibee, good day, good night, good luck, good days, good times, and good vibe, good talk, good things, good love, good nights, good words, good bye, good thanks, good chance, good good, goodelf, good more, good thoughts, good and good night goodelfelf, good day goodelf goodeeeeeeeeeeeedeee bye, bye love you, bye bye, good night Good night, bye, Good Night, good heareee... Blessings, x MAGA etc., - MAGA AND GOOD EYETTER, MAGA CHEETEER AND GOOD PRIEEEEEEEEEEETEED AND KELLY AND ROTTER AND FOTTERTER AND G CHEER ELLY AND GOOD NECKETEES AND GOT A CHEOTTER


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Jussie Smollett heads back to Hollywood, the justice system utterly fails underage victims of a major political donor, and voter fraud is a reality.
00:00:07.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:00:08.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:00:14.000 Well, we have a lot to get to today.
00:00:16.000 We are going to be talking about an actual political beating that happened in Berkeley, and that is being treated by the media as alleged, even though it's on tape, because certain types of crime are important, while other types of crime, not important.
00:00:26.000 We'll get to all that in just a second.
00:00:27.000 First, in 2008, the U.S.
00:00:29.000 national debt was $10 trillion.
00:00:31.000 Today, that debt is nearly $22 trillion, and it is rising like a hockey stick.
00:00:34.000 If you don't think we are sitting on a house of cards, you are living with your head in the sand.
00:00:38.000 But since you are listening to this podcast, you are So, what is your plan?
00:00:43.000 Can you afford another hit to your retirement, like the last downturn, when the S&P dropped 50%?
00:00:48.000 What you should do is hedge at least a little bit against inflation and uncertainty and instability.
00:00:52.000 Get a little bit of precious metals.
00:00:53.000 Gold is a safe haven against uncertainty.
00:00:55.000 My savings plan is diversified, and yours should be as well.
00:00:58.000 The company I trust with precious metal purchases is Birch Gold Group.
00:01:01.000 And right now, thanks to a little-known IRS tax law, You can even move your IRA or eligible 401k into an IRA backed by physical gold and silver, which is perfect for people who want to protect their hard-earned retirement savings from any future geopolitical uncertainty.
00:01:13.000 Look back historically.
00:01:14.000 When the bottom falls out of everything else, gold tends to safeguard savings.
00:01:17.000 Birch Gold Group has thousands of satisfied customers, countless five-star reviews, and A-plus rating with the Better Business Bureau.
00:01:23.000 Contact Birch Gold Group, get a free information kit on physical precious metals.
00:01:27.000 See if diversifying into gold and silver makes sense for you.
00:01:30.000 That comprehensive 16-page kit, it reveals how gold and silver can protect your savings.
00:01:34.000 To get that kit, text BEN to 474747.
00:01:36.000 Again, text BEN, my name, to 474747.
00:01:36.000 Again, text Ben, my name, to 474747. Ben to 474747.
00:01:44.000 All right.
00:01:45.000 So the latest updates on Jussie Smollett.
00:01:47.000 Just breaking today.
00:01:48.000 Apparently, producers of Empire finally have said that his character will be removed from the final two episodes of the latest season of Empire.
00:01:56.000 Hilariously, they had not said this as of last night.
00:02:00.000 He was actually headed back to the set of Empire in Chicago following his release from police custody on Thursday.
00:02:06.000 Smollett was released after posting bail in Chicago after police charged him with staging what was originally reported as a hate crime last month.
00:02:13.000 He was originally intended to film throughout the week on the Fox series, His role was dramatically reduced in light of his ongoing legal troubles.
00:02:19.000 The fact that he was even allowed to go back to the set is perfectly insane.
00:02:23.000 He was involved in the worst race hoax since Tawana Browley in the United States, and the guy was allowed to go back to set?
00:02:31.000 What was going through Fox's brain?
00:02:33.000 Fox has stood behind the actor for the most part, issuing multiple statements backing him as evidence grew that he had staged his own assault.
00:02:39.000 This is Variety reporting.
00:02:40.000 Earlier on Thursday, though, the network released a new statement that said in part, How is that even possible?
00:02:54.000 How is it possible to have large pockets of support with a company after you basically are caught signing checks to two guys to fake a racial crime?
00:03:05.000 There was hope as late as Wednesday he would be able to finish out his work on the series.
00:03:08.000 Empire had about an episode and a half of filming to finish its fifth season, or a little more than a week worth of work.
00:03:14.000 Apparently, instead, they are finally going to write him out.
00:03:16.000 They released him on $100,000 bond.
00:03:20.000 It is just amazing to me, the level to which people will surrender to their own narrative bias.
00:03:26.000 To return this guy to sort of civil society, even to consider returning this guy to civil society in the midst of an ongoing legal trial, after presumably expending hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars on a racial hoax, is just insane.
00:03:39.000 You know you've done something wrong, you know that you've gone off the rails, when Rahm Emanuel, a lefty of lefties, is very, very upset with you because of your race hoax.
00:03:48.000 Here is Rahm Emanuel, the mayor of Chicago, and you'll recall the chief of staff to Barack Obama talking to Don Lemon, quasi-reporter and friend of Jussie Smollett, last night on CNN.
00:03:58.000 Across our city in 77 different neighborhoods, there are people that have signs in their front lawn, on their windows, that say, hate has no home here.
00:04:08.000 And to you, Chicago, in that way is not true to who we are as a city.
00:04:12.000 Our police officers took this as a very serious hate crime, and they dedicated the resources to deal with it as a hate crime.
00:04:20.000 But then you literally put doubt.
00:04:22.000 What about the young man who's dealing with his own sexual orientation and is attacked for it in high school or some school, who's now going to doubt whether people are going to believe him?
00:04:32.000 You have put all those real stories at risk for your fake story.
00:04:36.000 That is not right.
00:04:38.000 There's a certain irony to Rahm Emanuel suggesting that Jussie Smollett's story did grave damage to the city of Chicago.
00:04:44.000 It did, of course, do grave damage to the city of Chicago.
00:04:46.000 The widespread perception that Chicago PD are somehow racist, that they were not pursuing the case with alacrity, or that Chicago is home to tremendous amounts of evil MAGA racists who are running around throughout the city trying to string up black people.
00:05:00.000 It's funny how so many folks on the left, including Rahm Emanuel, will say, you know, this is a slander on the city of Chicago and a slander on the police department.
00:05:07.000 And yet Rahm Emanuel, Barack Obama, they were constantly slandering a huge swath of Americans as exactly the kind of people that Jussie Smollett was trying to target.
00:05:17.000 The entire Jussie Smollett routine was not really targeting the city of Chicago, obviously.
00:05:21.000 It was targeting President Trump.
00:05:23.000 It was targeting white folks across the United States who may have voted for President Trump.
00:05:27.000 That was the goal of Jussie Smollett's routine.
00:05:29.000 He knew that folks like Rahm Emanuel, if the crime had been true, he knew that people like Rahm Emanuel would have jumped on board the idea that there were a huge swath of Americans who agreed with the attackers, the fake attackers, of Jussie Smollett.
00:05:41.000 So if Rahm Emanuel is very concerned about stories that draw a false conclusion about fellow Americans, then it seems to me that people on the left might want to reconsider how they treat crimes like this in the future.
00:05:52.000 Because the fact is, during the Obama administration, Barack Obama was complicit in presenting exactly Exactly the same types of slander about certain parts of America.
00:06:04.000 Barack Obama said about Ferguson, Missouri, Michael Brown, you'll recall, was an 18-year-old black man who attacked a police officer.
00:06:10.000 He tried to run at a police officer and was shot to death for his trouble after robbing a convenience store and after punching that police officer in the face.
00:06:19.000 And that was portrayed by the media as hands up, don't shoot.
00:06:22.000 You remember anchors on CNN raising their hands and posing for pictures, hands up, don't shoot.
00:06:27.000 And you remember Barack Obama in the aftermath of the acquittal of the officer in that particular case.
00:06:32.000 You'll remember the president of the United States getting on TV and expressing his quasi sorrow at the verdict and then suggesting that communities of color don't make these things up.
00:06:41.000 That case was made up.
00:06:42.000 That case was a race hoax.
00:06:44.000 That case was a massive race hoax.
00:06:46.000 But we don't see it that way.
00:06:47.000 Why?
00:06:47.000 Because massive mainstream institutions decided to back the race hoax.
00:06:51.000 So, here's the point.
00:06:52.000 If you are upset with Jussie Smollett on the left today because you feel that he slandered the city of Chicago and the Chicago PD and they made it harder for future victims, then you should have been just as upset over the Michael Brown scenario.
00:07:04.000 You should have been just as upset over that.
00:07:06.000 You should have been just as upset over other issues that were happening like that during the Obama administration.
00:07:10.000 People were not, because President Obama decided to back the play.
00:07:13.000 In this particular case, it blew back on the city of Chicago.
00:07:16.000 So now the left realizes that this sort of thing is bad.
00:07:18.000 When it blows back on the state of Missouri, or the city of Ferguson, then it's a completely different story.
00:07:24.000 Pretty amazing stuff.
00:07:25.000 By the way, Jussie Smollett still has his defenders.
00:07:27.000 He has his defenders on the grounds that President Trump is bad.
00:07:29.000 Now, President Trump is basically a get-out-of-jail-free card.
00:07:33.000 For a lot of folks on the left who don't want to acknowledge that something really, truly terrible happened right here.
00:07:38.000 D.L.
00:07:38.000 Hewley, alleged comedian, was on CNN with Block of Wood Chris Cuomo.
00:07:43.000 And he was talking about Jussie Smollett.
00:07:45.000 He said, well, you know, Jussie Smollett shouldn't go to jail.
00:07:47.000 President Trump isn't in jail.
00:07:49.000 Well, that's because President Trump didn't claim falsely that he was beaten half to death and then called racial slurs by people he had hired.
00:07:56.000 That's why President Trump isn't in jail.
00:07:58.000 D.L.
00:07:59.000 Hewley and his hat don't seem to understand that.
00:08:01.000 You know, it's interesting when you use hatred and bigotry and lying for your own self as in, and you're a young black kid, a young gay black kid, you get indicted.
00:08:09.000 If you do it when you're an old white guy, you become president.
00:08:12.000 And I think there are enough monsters out there for real that we don't have to make any up.
00:08:17.000 White supremacist has never, they're at a historical high.
00:08:21.000 It's interesting that the president would focus more on the kid that orchestrated a fake attack, but not the man, white supremacist, who was orchestrating an actual attack.
00:08:30.000 How exactly is this on national news?
00:08:33.000 Really, like, how is this on CNN?
00:08:35.000 What is D.L.
00:08:36.000 Hewley saying here that is of any value whatsoever?
00:08:39.000 He's saying a couple of things and neither of them make any sense.
00:08:41.000 The first thing he says is that if you use racism for your own personal ends and you're black, you go to jail.
00:08:46.000 No, actually, if you use racism in politics to your own personal ends, you end up getting elected to high office as well.
00:08:52.000 It turns out that race-baiting on every side is very lucrative business.
00:08:55.000 That's why Jussie Smollett tried to hoax.
00:08:57.000 The reason Jussie Smollett tried this routine is because he knew there was power in race-baiting for personal gain.
00:09:03.000 Al Sharpton is still meeting with people after helping perpetrate the Tawana Browley hoax, and it's 35 years later.
00:09:10.000 So, D.L.
00:09:10.000 Hewley is just wrong about this.
00:09:11.000 The reason Jussie Smollett is going to jail is because he actually took up police resources by reporting a fake hate crime.
00:09:17.000 If Jussie Smollett had just gone out there and preached about how America is racist, and how white people, broadly speaking, are racist, he'd be on the cover of Time Magazine next week.
00:09:26.000 He'd be getting multi-million dollar deals like Colin Kaepernick.
00:09:29.000 So D.L.
00:09:29.000 Hewley is just wrong about that.
00:09:31.000 And then, when D.L.
00:09:32.000 Hewley continues to suggest that white supremacism is at an all-time high in the United States, you know how ignorant you have to be of American history to believe that?
00:09:40.000 You're truly ignorant of American history.
00:09:43.000 An all-time high?
00:09:44.000 We had a literal war in this country where half a million people died, because it seems like probably when there were actual slaves being held in the United States, probably then is when white supremacy was at its height.
00:09:55.000 If I had to guess, I'd probably peg it right then.
00:09:58.000 And then you know when it was also really high?
00:09:59.000 It was also really high when we had a legal system of discrimination against black people that was promoted throughout the South and enshrined in law up until the mid-60s.
00:10:06.000 That seems like a time when white supremacism was at its all-time high.
00:10:10.000 You know when it's not at its all-time high?
00:10:12.000 In a country that three years ago a black man was President of the United States, the Attorney General of the United States was a black man, the Secretary of State, the Secretary of State Susan Rice, was a woman of color.
00:10:23.000 I mean, what?
00:10:25.000 The attempt to paint America as deeply racist in spite of Jussie Smollett is amazing.
00:10:30.000 The real point here is the one that Matt Walsh, a columnist over at Daily Wire, made yesterday, which is that the supply of racism of the United States is being exceeded by demand.
00:10:40.000 There is too much demand for racism and not enough supply.
00:10:42.000 So now we have to get mad over silly things or we have to make up race hoaxes.
00:10:46.000 We have to find every instance of quasi or fake racism we can in order to promote the idea that America is still a terrible, awful, no good, very bad place.
00:10:58.000 It's pretty astonishing.
00:10:59.000 I mean, that really is the theme for Jussie Smollett, right?
00:11:01.000 All Jussie Smollett had to do if he wanted to be the leader on hate crimes against black folks is find a black gay person who was victimized in a hate crime and promote their story.
00:11:10.000 That's all he had to do.
00:11:11.000 But he couldn't do that.
00:11:12.000 Instead, he had to fake a hate crime so that we could make the front pages across the United States.
00:11:16.000 It's pretty astonishing.
00:11:17.000 And by the way, again, there's still people going to defend Jussie Smollett because they are going to make the claim that Jussie Smollett is indicative of a broader problem, even if his story is fake.
00:11:25.000 The story is fake, but the moral is real.
00:11:28.000 The AOC version of politics.
00:11:30.000 We'll get to more of that in just a second.
00:11:31.000 First, there's one thing we can all agree on, no matter what we disagree on.
00:11:35.000 It's good to save money.
00:11:36.000 And this is why you ought to be using Honey.
00:11:38.000 You've probably heard me talk about Honey.
00:11:39.000 It's an amazing free browser extension.
00:11:41.000 That automatically helps me save money on all my favorite sites.
00:11:45.000 But I would not be doing my job if I didn't tell you how Honey makes even Amazon better.
00:11:48.000 I love Amazon.
00:11:49.000 Amazon's the best.
00:11:50.000 And I save money on Amazon every single day because as you shop on Amazon, Honey's best price finder automatically compares the prices of millions of sellers that carry the item that you want.
00:12:00.000 Honey even factors in shipping, sales tax, and Amazon Prime status to make sure that you're getting the lowest total price.
00:12:05.000 It shows you the best deal every time, even if Amazon doesn't.
00:12:08.000 It's like having your very own smart shopping assistant.
00:12:11.000 I saved a bunch of money this week.
00:12:13.000 My wife has finally started working out a lot on a regular basis, and she wanted to buy some weights.
00:12:17.000 Went on Amazon, bought some weights.
00:12:19.000 Honey kicked in.
00:12:20.000 We saved a bunch of money.
00:12:21.000 More than 10 million people are using Honey to save money right now.
00:12:24.000 Honey has over 100,000 five-star reviews on the Google Chrome store.
00:12:27.000 Time Magazine says it's basically free money.
00:12:29.000 That's because it is.
00:12:30.000 So next time you're shopping on Amazon, treat yourself to the free upgrade that guarantees you always get the best absolute price.
00:12:36.000 Add Honey.
00:12:37.000 For free at joinhoney.com slash ben.
00:12:39.000 That's joinhoney.com slash ben.
00:12:41.000 Honey, the smart shopping assistant that helps you save time and money.
00:12:45.000 Alright, so there's still people who are in fact race hoax specialists, or at least racialists, who make bank off this stuff.
00:12:52.000 Who refused to acknowledge that Jussie Smollett even did anything wrong.
00:12:55.000 One of those people is Auntie Maxine, who has been promoted as a champion of the downtrodden among the Democratic Party, especially now because she's very anti-Trump.
00:13:04.000 She said yesterday she still doesn't believe the Chicago PD.
00:13:08.000 How do we make sense of Justice Smollett?
00:13:10.000 How do we make sense of the situation?
00:13:12.000 I don't think we can, at this point, make sense of it.
00:13:15.000 There's still some questions that we have, some answers that have to be given.
00:13:20.000 He's a friend, and so I believed him when I heard about it.
00:13:26.000 I still don't know all of the details.
00:13:28.000 I'm waiting for the final results of all of this.
00:13:31.000 If, in fact, it's a hoax, of course I would be disappointed.
00:13:34.000 Oh, if it's a hoax, you'd be disappointed.
00:13:36.000 He's been arrested.
00:13:36.000 They have a signed check from him to the people he was paying to promote the hoax.
00:13:40.000 They have the phone call log in which he was calling the guys who helped him promote the hoax.
00:13:45.000 The evidence is pretty damn clear right here.
00:13:47.000 And Maxine Waters is still pretending that the evidence isn't fully in.
00:13:51.000 It really is amazing.
00:13:52.000 Kamala Harris is doing a little bit of the same routine.
00:13:54.000 So you'll recall that Kamala Harris first said that this was a modern-day lynching.
00:13:57.000 And then you'll recall that Kamala Harris said that she was going to wait for all the facts to come out while pretending that she didn't actually know what the facts were.
00:14:05.000 And now she's released a statement.
00:14:06.000 It says, like most of you, I've seen the reports about Jussie Smollett, and I'm sad, frustrated, and disappointed.
00:14:11.000 When anyone makes false claims to police, it not only diverts resources away from serious investigations, but it makes it more difficult for other victims of crime to come forward.
00:14:20.000 At the same time, we must speak the truth.
00:14:22.000 Hate crimes are on the rise in America.
00:14:24.000 Just last year, the FBI released statistics that revealed a 17% increase in the number of hate crimes in America.
00:14:30.000 Part of the tragedy of the situation is that it distracts from that truth and has been seized by some who would like to dismiss and downplay the very real problems that we must address.
00:14:40.000 We should not allow that.
00:14:41.000 So the real problem is not really Jussie Smollett.
00:14:44.000 The real problem is people seizing and pouncing like a tiger on Jussie Smollett.
00:14:51.000 You know, the real good news here, I guess, is that he raised awareness.
00:14:54.000 In the end, he raised awareness of hate crimes.
00:14:56.000 That's the real thing that we should be very excited about.
00:15:00.000 Zerlina Maxwell, another commentator doing this Jussie Smollett defense routine, pretty amazing over on MSNBC, she says, listen, we should react to Jussie Smollett with empathy.
00:15:09.000 You know, empathy for the guy who is willing to falsely testify that people who did not commit a crime committed a crime and send them to jail, presumably for the rest of their lives.
00:15:17.000 We should have empathy for that guy.
00:15:18.000 Folks that believed Jussie as a default position, we feel sadness today.
00:15:23.000 We don't feel stupid today.
00:15:25.000 I feel bad for the people who did not default to that empathy, who think that this is a game, who are gloating today.
00:15:31.000 Those people have something fundamentally wrong with them.
00:15:34.000 The people that defaulted to feeling empathy for someone who may be going through something.
00:15:39.000 And so I still feel empathy for him because obviously he's deeply troubled.
00:15:44.000 But I think we should default to supporting people and let the investigators do the investigation.
00:15:49.000 Oh, so I guess that you're a good person if you believed him without evidence.
00:15:53.000 But you're a bad person if you are happy that the police uncovered the fact that his crazy story was actually a crazy story.
00:16:00.000 By the way, we have no evidence that he's actually mentally ill.
00:16:02.000 We don't have any evidence that Jussie Smollett is mentally ill.
00:16:05.000 I've said this before.
00:16:06.000 You can't just attribute crazy to things you don't understand.
00:16:09.000 Jussie Smollett took action.
00:16:11.000 He did that as an independent human.
00:16:13.000 That is his decision.
00:16:15.000 This notion that we are supposed to default to empathy after it's already revealed that this piece of debris, I mean, he's a bad guy.
00:16:20.000 That is a bad guy.
00:16:21.000 Somebody who is willing to testify falsely so that other people go to jail, that makes you a bad human being.
00:16:27.000 Jussie Smollett did something deeply evil here, and to pretend that empathy should be on the table is bizarre at best, and obviously malicious at worst, because you're actually promoting a narrative, not a truth.
00:16:38.000 And meanwhile, there was an actual political crime, a politically driven assault that happened at Berkeley.
00:16:44.000 I guess this was yesterday.
00:16:46.000 And police at Berkeley were called to a student plaza on Tuesday after reports that a representative of the Conservative Leadership Institute was physically assaulted by a man on the campus.
00:16:55.000 Well, we actually have tape of it and here is what it sounded like.
00:16:58.000 You are f***ing encouraging violence.
00:17:00.000 No, I'm not.
00:17:01.000 I don't give you a fucking videotape.
00:17:03.000 You're a fucking punk.
00:17:05.000 I'm a fucking fuck out of my face, motherfucker.
00:17:12.000 Put your phone out of my fucking face.
00:17:13.000 So he punched the student in the eye.
00:17:19.000 Gave him a black eye.
00:17:24.000 The student maintained control of the camera, so we have a good shot of the guy's face.
00:17:30.000 I mean, just sh** delivered a short right to his eye.
00:17:32.000 And this guy should be arrested, and obviously he will be arrested.
00:17:36.000 He's now on camera, so the chances that he doesn't end up spending some time in jail, pretty low.
00:17:41.000 The Daily Californian was the first outlet to report the incident, which the student-run paper says took place in the Upper Sproul Plaza.
00:17:47.000 Citing a campus police alert that went out Wednesday, the paper reports that the alleged victim, a male Leadership Institute representative, had been tabling for Turning Point USA, that's Charlie Kirk's group, on Tuesday afternoon, about 3.29 p.m., When two males approach the table.
00:18:02.000 The victim told police he and the two men became embroiled in a verbal altercation, at which point he began filming the escalating exchange with his phone.
00:18:08.000 One of the two alleged attackers reportedly slapped the phone out of the activist's hand and then overturned the table the group was using to recruit.
00:18:15.000 While he and the suspect struggled for the phone, the suspect punched the victim several times, causing injury to the victim's eye and nose.
00:18:21.000 By the time the police arrived, the suspect had already left the scene.
00:18:24.000 A student who witnessed the attack filmed the second part of the altercation on his phone.
00:18:30.000 Charlie Kirk, the head of TPUSA, tweeted out the footage, wrote, That, of course, is 100% true.
00:18:38.000 That is 100% true.
00:18:40.000 The College Fix has also published additional footage filmed by a conservative activist that includes the assaulter threatening, So, the student paper has reported in an update that UC Berkeley Chancellor Carol Christ said in a statement the campus condemns all forms of harassment and violence and that the university does not have any information about whether the student, the suspect is a student at the university.
00:19:02.000 He is wearing a backpack and he appears to be college age.
00:19:05.000 The student who reportedly filmed the incident Apparently told Breitbart News that the altercation appears to have begun over an argument about a TPUSA sign that warned hate crime hoaxes hurt real victims, which was a reference to Jussie Smollett.
00:19:17.000 And then apparently he began filming after the suspect flipped over the table.
00:19:22.000 Newsweek, covering this thing, Newsweek headlined, conservative activists allegedly, allegedly assaulted.
00:19:29.000 When they headlined Jussie Smollett, it was Jussie Smollett assaulted.
00:19:32.000 You be the, you be the judge as to whether the media would be covering this differently if this had been an Obama supporter punched by a Trump supporter.
00:19:39.000 I have a feeling the answer would be yes.
00:19:42.000 And meanwhile, in a horrifying story, this is from the Washington Post, A judge has now ruled that prosecutorial deal between Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta and Jeffrey Epstein's lawyers was absolutely corrupt, which is 100% true.
00:19:57.000 We covered this a few months ago on the podcast.
00:20:00.000 A judge ruled Thursday that federal prosecutors, including the future Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta, violated the law when they did not tell victims the government had struck a deal not to prosecute Jeffrey Epstein.
00:20:10.000 A politically connected billionaire accused of molesting dozens of young girls.
00:20:13.000 You'll recall Jeffrey Epstein from having an island, it was basically sex slave island.
00:20:18.000 He had a bunch of underage young girls there and he was flying his friends down there.
00:20:22.000 And his friends ranged in politics from Bill Clinton to, I believe he was friendly with Trump, I think.
00:20:27.000 I know that he was friendly with Alan Dershowitz.
00:20:30.000 The ruling was a stinging rebuke for prosecutors and how they behaved in a grim high-profile case that has drawn increased scrutiny in recent months.
00:20:36.000 A Miami Herald investigation last year highlighted the allegations and Acosta's role in cutting a non-prosecution agreement with Epstein, while a Justice Department office said it is exploring whether the federal prosecutors who reached the deal committed professional misconduct.
00:20:50.000 District Judge Kenneth Marrow was blunt, ruling that prosecutors had acted improperly in reaching the agreement with Epstein, which stopped federal action in exchange for him pleading guilty to a state charge without telling the victims.
00:21:01.000 I mean, the case itself was horrific.
00:21:04.000 He was basically kidnapping young girls off the street, bringing them home, and then sexually abusing them.
00:21:10.000 And then he was releasing them because he was extraordinarily wealthy and because he gave lots of money to politicians.
00:21:15.000 The presumption is that this had an impact on how his prosecution went.
00:21:19.000 The judge wrote that he was not ruling the decision not to prosecute was improper.
00:21:23.000 He was simply ruling that under the facts of this case, there was a violation of the victim's rights under the CVRA, which is the Crime Victims Rights Act, which entitles victims to know about significant events in their cases.
00:21:33.000 Prosecutors did not give victims a chance to affect prosecutorial decisions and did not accurately tell them about what was happening.
00:21:40.000 Prosecutors instead sought to conceal the existence of the deal cut with Epstein and mislead the victims to believe that federal prosecution was still a possibility.
00:21:48.000 Mera wrote, while the government spent untold hours negotiating the terms and implications of the non-prosecution agreement with Epstein's attorney, scant information was shared with the victims.
00:21:59.000 The case remains in active litigation.
00:22:01.000 It has referred further questions to the Justice Department.
00:22:03.000 The U.S.
00:22:03.000 Attorney's Office in Southern District of Florida declined to comment on the ruling.
00:22:08.000 The allegations against Epstein and the fact that he had reached a deal had been publicly known.
00:22:12.000 They came up during Acosta's 2017 confirmation hearings to lead the Labor Department.
00:22:16.000 The case surged back into the public eye in November, when the Herald published its investigation, reporting it had identified approximately 80 women who said they had been sexually abused by Epstein between 2001 and 2006, and then how Epstein had struck a deal that effectively ended an FBI probe.
00:22:32.000 The Justice Department revealed earlier this month it had opened an investigation into how prosecutors handled the Epstein case, though the probe is likely to be of limited impact.
00:22:41.000 Epstein is one of the worst people walking this earth.
00:22:44.000 I mean, just one of the worst people.
00:22:45.000 And the fact that he was politically connected, I can't imagine that had nothing to do with the agreement that was cut here.
00:22:51.000 I imagine there were probably powerful people who were sounding off to the prosecution office about letting Epstein go.
00:22:57.000 When people talk about injustices in the criminal justice system, I think it has very little to do with race.
00:23:01.000 I think it has a lot to do with the amount of power that you wield.
00:23:04.000 And if you're Jeffrey Epstein, and you're paying off politicians, and those politicians can call up their political friends, sometimes deals get cut that way, and that is really bad.
00:23:13.000 There's a reason that it's good to be a celebrity in a criminal justice case.
00:23:16.000 It is not good to be a non-celebrity.
00:23:17.000 I mean, we'll see what happens with Jussie Smollett, by the way.
00:23:20.000 There was a report yesterday that it is likely that the prosecution will cut a deal with Smollett so he does no jail time, which would be fully insane.
00:23:27.000 At least on the state level, we'll see what the feds do.
00:23:29.000 Bottom line here is that if Acosta cut this deal for any corrupt reason at all, not only should he not be Labor Secretary, he should probably do jail time.
00:23:38.000 I mean, that's an insane deal to cut.
00:23:40.000 That you're going to let the guy off without prosecution for abusing underage girls for years on end.
00:23:47.000 Very, very frightening.
00:23:49.000 And a bad look for our criminal justice system, obviously.
00:23:51.000 I'm going to get to voter fraud in just a second because voter fraud is back in the news.
00:23:56.000 This time, of course, it's in the news because Republicans were engaged in it.
00:23:58.000 We'll talk about it in just a second.
00:23:59.000 First, let's talk about your postage rates.
00:24:01.000 They've gone up again.
00:24:02.000 Thankfully, stamps.com can ease the pain with big discounts off post office retail rates.
00:24:06.000 With stamps.com, you save five cents off every first class stamp and up to 40% off priority mail.
00:24:11.000 That kind of savings really does add up, especially for small businesses.
00:24:15.000 Stamps.com is completely online, which saves you time.
00:24:18.000 No more inconvenient trips to the post office.
00:24:20.000 Stamps.com automatically calculates and prints the exact amounts of postage you need for every letter or package you send.
00:24:26.000 You're never going to overpay or underpay again.
00:24:28.000 Stamps.com brings all the services of the U.S.
00:24:30.000 Postal Service directly to your fingertips.
00:24:31.000 Buy and print official U.S.
00:24:33.000 postage for any letter, any package, any class of mail, using your own computer and printer.
00:24:38.000 Stamps.com makes it easy.
00:24:39.000 They'll send you a free digital scale automatically calculating your exact postage.
00:24:42.000 Anything you can do at the post office, you can now do from your desk for less.
00:24:45.000 That's why I use Stamps.com.
00:24:47.000 It saves me time, it saves me money, it means I don't have to schlep my packages down to the post office right now.
00:24:52.000 My listeners, get a special offer that includes a four-week trial, plus free postage and a digital scale.
00:24:57.000 See for yourself why over 700,000 small businesses use stamps.com.
00:25:00.000 Just go to stamps.com, click on the microphone at the top of the homepage, and type in Shapiro.
00:25:05.000 That is stamps.com, enter Shapiro for that special deal.
00:25:07.000 Stamps.com, click on that mic at the top of the homepage, type in Shapiro.
00:25:11.000 Alrighty, meanwhile, a new election has been ordered in North Carolina.
00:25:15.000 According to the New York Times, North Carolina officials on Thursday ordered a new contest in the 9th Congressional District after the Republican candidate, confronted by evidence that his campaign had financed an illegal voter turnout effort, called for a new election.
00:25:27.000 The unanimous ruling by the five-member Board of Elections was a startling and, for Republicans, embarrassing conclusion to a case that has convulsed North Carolina since November, and it followed testimony that outlined how a political operative had orchestrated an absentee ballot scheme to try to sway the race in favor of Mark Harris, the Republican candidate.
00:25:44.000 It is now the single undecided House contest in last year's midterms.
00:25:48.000 Robert Cordell, the state's board chairman, cited the corruption absolute mess with the absentee ballots when he called for a new election.
00:25:54.000 He said it was certainly tainted.
00:25:55.000 Harris had a 905-vote lead over his Democratic opponent, Dan McCready, but his success in Bladen County, where he won 61% of absentee ballots, even though Republicans were there accounted for just 19% of them, alarmed regulators.
00:26:08.000 When he finally took the stand on Thursday morning, Mr. Harris denied knowing of any wrongdoing in the voter turnout effort led by L. McCray Dallas Jr., a veteran political operative known as a local guru of elections.
00:26:19.000 But in a series of questions, Harris stumbled and appeared to mislead the board.
00:26:22.000 When he returned to the crowded courtroom after lunch recess, he asked whether he could read a statement.
00:26:26.000 He apologized to the board.
00:26:27.000 He explained that recent medical issues, including two strokes, had impaired his abilities and recall, and then he asked for a new election.
00:26:34.000 Which sounds pretty damaging to him.
00:26:37.000 Now, the entire article talks about this voter operations guy, McCray Dallas.
00:26:43.000 And it talks about his history in the district, but it does not actually talk until very late about his longtime history working for Democrats.
00:26:53.000 In fact, if you search the piece for references to Democrat, there is no, there's one reference, one reference to his shadowy work for Democratic and Republican politicians.
00:27:04.000 But that is not how New York Times reporter Patrick Healy talked about this on CNN.
00:27:09.000 Here's Patrick Healy, the politics editor for the New York Times, saying Republicans are engaging in voter fraud.
00:27:14.000 For years, President Trump and Republicans have tried to create this image that Democrats were stealing elections.
00:27:21.000 Millions of voter fraud ballots.
00:27:23.000 Phony votes.
00:27:24.000 You know, President Trump would have won the popular vote against Hillary Clinton if not for all of this voter fraud by Democrats.
00:27:31.000 Never proven.
00:27:32.000 No evidence.
00:27:33.000 And now the Republicans have the biggest case of voter fraud that we've had in this country for years.
00:27:40.000 Okay, amazing.
00:27:41.000 I will point out, it is amazing that the politics editor of the New York Times will say that Republicans are responsible for voter fraud.
00:27:47.000 Let's learn a little bit about Leslie McCray Dallas.
00:27:50.000 Now it is true in this case.
00:27:51.000 Republicans apparently responsible for voter fraud.
00:27:53.000 Obviously that is true.
00:27:54.000 Also true, this guy has been working for politicians of both parties And mostly the Democratic Party over the course of his career.
00:28:01.000 According to the News Observer in North Carolina, Dallas had long voted in Democratic primaries, but became a registered Republican after the 2016 general election.
00:28:09.000 In 2012, he was paid for get-out-the-vote efforts for competing Democratic candidates in a state house race.
00:28:15.000 Why weird?
00:28:16.000 You think maybe a voter fraud guru may have committed voter fraud on behalf of Democrats historically, but nobody cared because it was Democrats doing it in a Democratic primary?
00:28:24.000 News reports indicate he has been doing campaign work at least as far back as 2006.
00:28:28.000 He told the News Reporter of Whiteville in a 2010 article that he worked on then-District Attorney Rex Gore's campaign that year.
00:28:35.000 In 2010, Dallas worked for the man Gore defeated, Harold Butch Pope, a Whiteville attorney.
00:28:39.000 During that campaign, Pope and Dallas had to respond to concerns about Dallas' criminal record.
00:28:44.000 In 1992, Dallas was convicted of felony insurance fraud after he and his wife were accused of taking out an insurance policy on a dead man and collecting nearly $165,000 from his death.
00:28:55.000 And he was being hired by Democrats four years after that.
00:28:58.000 He served more than six months of a two-year prison sentence after repeating the plot of double indemnity.
00:29:04.000 Pope knocked out Gore in the Democratic primary, then lost the election to John David, who remains the district attorney for Blayden, Brunswick, and Columbus counties.
00:29:11.000 Pope said when he ran for the office, two or three people called and told him he needed Dallas working for him in Blayden County.
00:29:17.000 Someone told me McCray Dallas is the guru of Blayden County.
00:29:21.000 So, the guy who is responsible for the voter fraud is McCray Dallas, fellow.
00:29:25.000 He basically was gathering absentee ballots, and then he was throwing out the ones that he didn't like, and he was keeping the ones that he did like.
00:29:33.000 That was essentially what happened here.
00:29:34.000 And this is why ballot gathering is a bad process.
00:29:37.000 Absentee ballots should not be allowed unless you're a member of the military.
00:29:41.000 Really.
00:29:42.000 Absentee ballots, early voting, it should only be allowed if you're a member of the military.
00:29:45.000 This idea that we need to maximize the number of people voting early and then we need to allow various political parties to go out and vote gather is extraordinarily dangerous.
00:29:55.000 It's extraordinarily dangerous.
00:29:56.000 And yet Democrats don't seem to have any problem with the systematic voter fraud issue.
00:30:01.000 This is the part that I think Republicans have a real claim on.
00:30:04.000 And Democrats are pointing to this case and saying, look, voter fraud.
00:30:08.000 And I'm like, yes, of course, voter fraud.
00:30:09.000 Yes, that's voter fraud.
00:30:10.000 That's very bad.
00:30:11.000 You know it's bad when everyone does it.
00:30:14.000 Maybe we should change the system so it is not as easy to commit voter fraud.
00:30:18.000 Take, for example, my state, California.
00:30:20.000 The San Diego Union Tribune has a piece back from December.
00:30:24.000 It says this, in the wake of last month's blue wave that wrested control of the House from Republicans and transferred it to the Democratic Party, some members of the GOP are complaining about the results and the practice of so-called ballot harvesting in California.
00:30:37.000 House Speaker Paul Ryan, who's then the House Speaker, said last week that California defies logic and he can't begin to understand what ballot harvesting is.
00:30:44.000 So what exactly is ballot harvesting?
00:30:46.000 It's political jargon for a practice in which organized workers or volunteers collect absentee ballots from certain voters and drop them off at a polling place or election office.
00:30:54.000 Coined by California Republicans, the term carries a negative connotation to suggest improprieties and even election fraud.
00:31:02.000 In 2016, Jerry Brown signed into law a change to section 3017 of the election code that allows any person to collect a mail-in ballot from voters and turn in the mail ballot to a polling place or the registrar's office.
00:31:13.000 Prior law restricted the practice to just relatives or those living in the same household as the voter.
00:31:18.000 So in other words, Jerry Brown made voter fraud easier.
00:31:20.000 Because now, you can have somebody just coming to your door and saying, listen, I've been assigned by whomever.
00:31:27.000 I've been assigned by the Elections Oversight Committee.
00:31:30.000 to come gather your ballot.
00:31:34.000 So, you know, you're not going to leave it in the mail.
00:31:35.000 You're going to forget.
00:31:36.000 Just give me your ballot.
00:31:36.000 Just vote right now.
00:31:37.000 Give me your ballot.
00:31:37.000 I'll take it down to the mailbox for you.
00:31:40.000 I'm not sure that the actual law requires you to say if you are working for one of the parties.
00:31:47.000 The legislation says that a vote by a mail voter who is unable to return the ballot may designate any person to return the ballot to the elections official from whom it came or to the precinct board at a polling place within the jurisdiction.
00:32:00.000 So, in other words, the actual process that McCrae Dallas used, which is he would go around, gather a bunch of ballots, throw out the ones he didn't like, keep the ones he did like, that process is very much on the table in places like California and was just made easier by the former governor of California, Jerry Brown.
00:32:14.000 It used to be you could only give it to your brother, sister, your wife, your kids, take the ballot down to the mailbox and drop it off.
00:32:20.000 Now, it's if I come to your door and I sign a piece of paper saying I gave you my ballot, then I can hand it to Rando.
00:32:27.000 And who the hell knows what Rando is doing with those ballots?
00:32:30.000 So, this is where I have a real problem with all the talk about voter fraud.
00:32:33.000 If you are only concerned about voter fraud when it happens on one side of the aisle, you are not really concerned about voter fraud.
00:32:38.000 If you are only upset about voter fraud because of what just happened in North Carolina's 9th District, but you don't care that the guy responsible for the voter fraud was active in elections for legitimately four election cycles before that, and you don't care that the exact methodology he used is still open to abuse in states like California, Then you don't get to claim that you really care about voter fraud.
00:32:59.000 All you care about is blaming Republicans.
00:33:01.000 That's why that politics editor from the New York Times is doing a grave disservice to the actual issue.
00:33:06.000 Now, I love this.
00:33:07.000 The San Diego Union-Tribune says there have been no credible reports of ballot harvesting being employed illegally or systematically to amount to election fraud.
00:33:14.000 Secretary of State Alex Padilla was quoted saying the laws don't benefit one party over another.
00:33:19.000 Oh, well, we're not going to find out about that until it's found out about.
00:33:22.000 That's the thing about crimes.
00:33:23.000 You don't find out about them until somebody detects the crime.
00:33:28.000 Again, don't pretend that you care about this stuff unless you actually care about this stuff.
00:33:31.000 It's just absurd.
00:33:32.000 Okay, in a second, we're going to talk about the Democrats who continue to move ever more to the left.
00:33:38.000 First, let's talk about how you shave each morning.
00:33:40.000 How you get ready.
00:33:41.000 The kind of soap you use.
00:33:43.000 I love that Dollar Shave Club has everything I need to look, feel, and smell my best.
00:33:46.000 What I love even more is the fact that I never have to go to a store.
00:33:49.000 That's because number one, DSC delivers everything I need directly to my door, and two, they keep me fully stocked on what I use so I don't run out.
00:33:55.000 Here's how it works.
00:33:56.000 Dollar Shave Club has everything you need to get ready, no matter what you are getting ready for.
00:33:59.000 They've got you covered head to toe for your hair, your skin, your face, you name it, they've got it.
00:34:03.000 And they have a new program where they automatically keep you stocked up on the product you use.
00:34:07.000 You determine what you want, and when you want it, it shows up right at your door from once a month to once every six months.
00:34:11.000 That's what I do for their Amber Lavender Body Cleanser, their Sage Black Pepper Shampoo.
00:34:15.000 I mean, this stuff's fantastic.
00:34:16.000 Plus, with their handsome discount, the more you buy, the more you save.
00:34:19.000 And right now, they've got a bunch of starter sets you can try for just $5, like their Oral Care Kit.
00:34:24.000 After that, the restock box ships regular-sized products at regular price.
00:34:27.000 So, what exactly are you waiting for?
00:34:29.000 Get your starter set for just five bucks right now at dollarshaveclub.com slash ben.
00:34:34.000 That is dollarshaveclub.com slash ben.
00:34:36.000 There's a reason I use their products.
00:34:38.000 It's because they're awesome.
00:34:38.000 dollarshaveclub.com slash ben for the special deal.
00:34:41.000 Go check it out right now.
00:34:43.000 Okay, so the Democrats continue to move in more and more radical directions.
00:34:46.000 The latest indicator of this is Elizabeth Warren calling for, I kid you not, slavery reparations.
00:34:52.000 This will be a mainstream democratic position across the board.
00:34:55.000 The first person to talk about it was Kamala Harris.
00:34:58.000 And the reason that she agreed with it is because a host suggested it to her.
00:35:02.000 So now we are making policy by radio host suggestions, which, hey, I mean, if we're going to do that, I'm right here, guy.
00:35:08.000 I'm right here.
00:35:08.000 We'll get to all that in just a second.
00:35:09.000 First.
00:35:11.000 First, you have to subscribe over at Daily Wire.
00:35:13.000 Today, for example, we are featuring a Daily Wire premium subscriber.
00:35:17.000 We wanted to give a shout out to a different subscriber every week as a thank you for helping support the Daily Wire.
00:35:23.000 Although, let's be honest, we're already giving you people way more than you deserve.
00:35:28.000 That's true, we are.
00:35:29.000 This week's shout-out goes to Cameron.
00:35:31.000 At RealMCGCam on Twitter, Cameron tweeted this epic photo of him inhaling what I'm guessing is scalding hot leftist tears, because judging by the photo, Cameron, total badass, dude.
00:35:41.000 Cameron writes, because Ben Shapiro told me to do it.
00:35:43.000 Hot or cold Tumblr, you're Leavenworth Washington, from Seattle.
00:35:48.000 I mean, look at that picture.
00:35:49.000 Snowmobile, trees, cold outside.
00:35:51.000 That's man stuff.
00:35:52.000 If you want to receive a shoutout and experience the pure bliss that Cameron is likely experiencing at this very instant, you have to be an annual subscriber and you have to post a photo of your Tumblr on either Twitter or Instagram with the hashtag LeftistTearsTumblr.
00:36:05.000 You can even be in the photo if you would like.
00:36:07.000 Get creative, folks!
00:36:08.000 Keep it PG-rated.
00:36:10.000 We like when you make us laugh.
00:36:11.000 Entertain me!
00:36:12.000 I mean, I entertain you.
00:36:13.000 Come on.
00:36:13.000 Also, be sure to join us this Monday, February 25th, for The Daily Wire Backstage, where we will be talking about everyone's favorite award show.
00:36:20.000 By which I mean the one no one's gonna watch, but we'll all watch the highlights.
00:36:23.000 Daily Wire god-king Jeremy Boring, me, Andrew Clavin, the exquirable Michael Knowles, and Alicia Krauss will be here talking culture, Hollywood, and of course, taking your questions as well.
00:36:31.000 As always, only Daily Wire subscribers get to ask those questions, So make sure to subscribe today.
00:36:35.000 Also, as we mentioned, when you subscribe, you get to ask me questions in the mailbag, which we will be doing momentarily.
00:36:41.000 And the annual subscription comes with that Leftist Tears tumbler, which, as you have seen, is so magnificent that it will warm your bones even in the chilliest of days in Leavenworth, Washington.
00:36:50.000 So go check that out right now.
00:36:52.000 We have so much good stuff for you.
00:36:53.000 I mean, like, two additional hours of the show every day later today.
00:36:56.000 We also have the Sunday special, which is available as a Saturday special for people who subscribe.
00:37:00.000 I mean, this is a hell of a pitch, guys.
00:37:02.000 I'm spending a lot of time and effort on it.
00:37:03.000 So all I can say is you should really go get a subscription.
00:37:06.000 Just do it, guys.
00:37:06.000 OK, so we always appreciate your business.
00:37:09.000 We are the largest, fastest-growing conservative podcast and radio show in the nation.
00:37:12.000 So back to the Democratic move toward the radical left.
00:37:22.000 The new platform for a lot of the Democrats is apparently going to be slavery reparations.
00:37:26.000 Now, you may be thinking, I know what you're thinking.
00:37:28.000 What you're thinking is, isn't it 2019?
00:37:30.000 Doesn't that mean that it's been approximately 153 years since the end of slavery in the United States?
00:37:35.000 Why are we talking about slavery reparations?
00:37:37.000 That would be a good question.
00:37:38.000 The answer is because there's a group of Democrats who have to pander for a percentage of the Democratic voting base in the primaries.
00:37:46.000 It's that simple.
00:37:46.000 Because guess what is a thing that's not going to happen?
00:37:48.000 That.
00:37:49.000 You know why it's not going to happen?
00:37:50.000 Because it is utterly impractical.
00:37:52.000 It is utterly impractical.
00:37:54.000 And by the way, counterproductive.
00:37:55.000 Because it is suggesting that the vast majority of disparities in mobility in today's American society are due to an event that ended 150 years ago.
00:38:06.000 That does not hold water.
00:38:07.000 It does not.
00:38:08.000 If you want to say that people who suffered under Jim Crow should get some sort of reparations from the state of Alabama, for example, There's maybe an argument.
00:38:15.000 Those people are still living.
00:38:16.000 But if you want to suggest that people ought to get slavery reparations, that's a different story.
00:38:22.000 Also, here's the question.
00:38:23.000 How would you even do that?
00:38:24.000 Who pays it and who receives it?
00:38:25.000 So for example, Barack Obama, half black, half white.
00:38:29.000 Does his white half pay reparations to his black half?
00:38:31.000 How does that work exactly?
00:38:33.000 If you are one quarter black, do you get slavery reparations?
00:38:37.000 Also, if you are black but not a descendant of a slave, if you're Kamala Harris, and your father is Jamaican, your mom is Indian, do you get slavery reparations?
00:38:43.000 I assume not.
00:38:45.000 Also, shouldn't we make it so that the people who directly benefited from slavery are the ones who foot the bill for it?
00:38:52.000 Or are we going to make the people who are descendants of people who died in the Civil War fighting slavery pay for the reparations?
00:38:59.000 One of the broad-based accusations when it comes to slavery and Jim Crow is that the entire United States benefited as a whole from slavery and Jim Crow.
00:39:07.000 That is obviously and eminently economically untrue.
00:39:09.000 It is just not true.
00:39:10.000 There is no fact pattern that suggests whatsoever that the vast majority of white people who are not directly engaged in having slaves on their plantation benefited from slavery.
00:39:19.000 In fact, it helped make the southern economy agrarian and backwards.
00:39:22.000 The reason that the North overwhelmed the South was sheer industrial power, and a large part of that is because slavery was not allowed in the North.
00:39:28.000 Slavery is not actually economically feasible or beneficial.
00:39:32.000 Forget that it's morally evil.
00:39:33.000 It is not feasible or economically beneficial.
00:39:36.000 So the entire basis of reparations, which is the United States broad-scale benefited from slavery, and that white people in the United States broad-scale benefited from slavery, that is simply not true.
00:39:46.000 And the reason that matters is because, for my family, my great-great grandparents arrived in the United States in like 1907.
00:39:53.000 That was a solid 50 years after the end of slavery in the United States.
00:39:58.000 They were Jewish.
00:39:59.000 They lived in New York when they first got here.
00:40:01.000 Should they be paying slavery reparations?
00:40:02.000 Well, the theory is that they lived in a system that had benefited from slavery.
00:40:06.000 Therefore, they should pay slavery reparations.
00:40:08.000 But they moved into that system 50 years after slavery ended.
00:40:11.000 And you're going to be hard-pressed to tell me how my great-great-grandparents benefited from slavery.
00:40:15.000 Like, really, you're going to have to explain that one to me.
00:40:17.000 It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
00:40:20.000 The best you could do, if you're just talking about a fairness argument, if you're talking about a simple racial fairness argument, is find the direct descendants of slaves, find the direct descendants of plantation owners, and have the direct descendants of plantation owners turn over a percentage of their wealth to the direct descendants of slaves.
00:40:37.000 That's going to be very difficult, and also, it's likely not to be beneficial because there's a very good shot that many of the people who are direct descendants of plantation owners are poorer than the direct descendants of slaves.
00:40:48.000 Again, once you are far removed from historical events, making it right through reparations is extraordinarily difficult.
00:40:55.000 As I say, I think there, if you, if someone could make a case about Jim Crow, maybe?
00:41:01.000 Maybe?
00:41:01.000 You know, Holocaust reparations make some sense to me because those people are still living, and the German government was responsible.
00:41:08.000 So, maybe?
00:41:10.000 But the idea that we're gonna go to slavery reparations now, obviously it's just a pandering move, especially by Elizabeth Warren.
00:41:16.000 So Kamala Harris was on a radio show, And she was asked about government reparations for black Americans.
00:41:22.000 And she said if that was necessary to address the legacy of slavery and discrimination.
00:41:26.000 She affirmed that statement.
00:41:27.000 She said, we have to be honest that people in this country do not start from the same place or have access to the same opportunities.
00:41:32.000 I'm serious about taking an approach that would change policies and structures and make real investment in black communities.
00:41:37.000 Well, that's not slavery reparations.
00:41:39.000 Presumably, that was a large part of what drove the social welfare state.
00:41:42.000 I mean, LBJ essentially said that openly, that he saw large swaths of the social welfare state as designed to as designed to address the disparities that existed between black and whites in the United States on economic issues.
00:41:56.000 Elizabeth Warren also said she supported reparations for black Americans because she's basically just following around every candidate and shouting, yeah, me too.
00:42:03.000 Her campaign is she follows around Kamala Harris until Kamala Harris says something radical.
00:42:08.000 And then Elizabeth Warren stands in the background, waves around, yeah, I also agree.
00:42:12.000 And then Bernie Sanders emerges from the woodwork, it's like, I think that everything should be free.
00:42:16.000 And Elizabeth Warren creeps up behind him, pops up her pen, she goes, yeah, me too.
00:42:19.000 That's basically her campaign at this point.
00:42:22.000 I love this.
00:42:23.000 The Warren campaign declined to give further details on that backing, but it came amid her calls for the federal government to provide special home-buying assistance to residents of communities that were adversely affected by redlining.
00:42:34.000 So here's the other problem.
00:42:35.000 What you're seeing from a lot of Democrats is an attempt to push bad government policy, not direct reparations, actual bad government policy that has resulted in terrible economic woes for the United States on the basis that disparity is discrimination.
00:42:48.000 So, too few black families were getting home loans.
00:42:51.000 Therefore, why don't we have a subprime mortgage industry backed by the federal government?
00:42:54.000 That won't do any harm, will it?
00:42:56.000 Except for, you know, destroying half the United States economy in 2007-2008.
00:42:59.000 Except for that, it'll be totally fine.
00:43:02.000 Pursuing bad policy as some form of reparations is not smart, either for black people or for white people.
00:43:08.000 And if we are talking about reparations, we have to discuss who gets it, from when, from whom, over what period, and why.
00:43:15.000 Okay, you know, let's do a little bit of mailbag here.
00:43:18.000 So, John says, what are your thoughts on Andrew Yang's running for president 2020 on the Democratic ticket?
00:43:22.000 1,000-month UBI freedom dividend that he proposes can be available for all Americans to either replace or enhance welfare.
00:43:30.000 Well, I believe that the only purpose of a universal basic income or a negative income tax, as Milton Friedman suggested, is if you're going to replace the entire welfare structure with it.
00:43:39.000 If basically we just sign a check to everybody every month, below a certain income level, and that's it.
00:43:44.000 There are no other supplemental programs.
00:43:45.000 We don't need 70 different welfare programs.
00:43:48.000 We don't need food stamps.
00:43:49.000 We don't need any of that stuff.
00:43:50.000 We just sign you a check, and now it's your job to do with it what you will.
00:43:53.000 The problem I see is that many of the decisions that are being made with money by people who are on welfare are not great decisions in the first place.
00:44:03.000 So that is not to suggest they shouldn't have control over their money.
00:44:05.000 They should.
00:44:06.000 But if you have control over your money, that means that you also bear the brunt of the decisions that you make with your money.
00:44:11.000 It's one of the reasons why, for example, there's been a suggestion by Republicans for health savings accounts when it comes to health care for poor people, because there's a fear that a lot of that money will not be used for health savings.
00:44:21.000 Well, all Brahms chamber music is fantastic.
00:44:23.000 I love his piano quintets.
00:44:24.000 I love his piano quartets.
00:44:25.000 public treasury.
00:44:25.000 Keegan says, "Howdy Ben.
00:44:26.000 "Recently you commended a Mozart piece, "Piano Concerto No. 1, Second Movement, "and I've absolutely fallen in love with it.
00:44:32.000 "Consider me ignorant on classical composers.
00:44:34.000 "The earliest music in my typical playlist "is the big bands of the early 1900s.
00:44:38.000 "I have a love for swing music.
00:44:39.000 "What other composers or pieces would you recommend?" Well, all Brahms chamber music is fantastic.
00:44:44.000 I love his piano quintets.
00:44:46.000 I love his piano quartets, the first piano quartet particularly I love.
00:44:51.000 His violin sonatas are wonderful.
00:44:53.000 I love to play those as well.
00:44:54.000 In terms of symphonies, you gotta take the Beethoven symphonies.
00:44:57.000 Usually people recommend the odd numbers, 3, 5, 7, and 9.
00:45:00.000 Those are all fantastic.
00:45:01.000 Number 6 is also great.
00:45:02.000 That's the Pastoral.
00:45:03.000 You'll have seen it in Fantasia.
00:45:05.000 I'm a big fan of Dvorak's 9th Symphony, the New World Symphony.
00:45:07.000 That one's terrific.
00:45:08.000 If you like more dissonant music and more modern music, then Bartok's Concerto for Orchestra is one of my personal favorites.
00:45:16.000 There's so much great classical music.
00:45:18.000 Everything that Mozart wrote in his late career, I tend to love.
00:45:21.000 So I love Don Giovanni, I love the Requiem, at least the parts of it that he wrote.
00:45:26.000 He died in the middle of writing his Requiem.
00:45:30.000 There's so much great classical music.
00:45:31.000 Mendelssohn's Italian Symphony, his Scottish Symphony, his Violin Concerto.
00:45:36.000 So it really depends on the form of music you're talking about, but that's enough to get you started.
00:45:39.000 Also, one of my personal favorites, I've played it on the show before, Ralph Vaughan Williams.
00:45:45.000 Fantasia on the Theme by Thomas Tallis is, I think, one of the most spiritual pieces of music ever written.
00:45:49.000 Zachary says, "I'm currently dating a girl from Peru "who's blindsided by the fact that she was illegal "due to her parents never informing her until she was 18.
00:45:56.000 "We've been fighting to keep her here via a pardon, "and after a year, she only recently has been granted "the permission to get biometrics done.
00:46:02.000 "My question is two parts.
00:46:03.000 "Is it morally right to be a Republican "and against illegal immigration and still date her?
00:46:07.000 "And how could the system of immigration be sped up "while still having a proper vetting process?
00:46:11.000 "Thanks for all you do." Of course, it's morally right to be a Republican and against illegal immigration and still date this person.
00:46:17.000 Of course.
00:46:17.000 I don't see the conflict at all.
00:46:19.000 You're not saying that she should continue to illegally immigrate.
00:46:22.000 You're not saying that she should continue to violate America's laws.
00:46:25.000 And presumably, if you married her and she were rejected for immigration status, then you would find another place to live.
00:46:30.000 So I don't see a conflict there at all.
00:46:32.000 What I do see is a system that is wildly broken when a lot of people who were brought here as children and are net benefits to the United States, it takes forever for them to get citizenship, but we're talking blanket amnesty for people who come across the border now.
00:46:46.000 That makes no sense to me at all.
00:46:48.000 My wife was an immigrant to the United States.
00:46:50.000 She came here with her family permanently when she was 12.
00:46:52.000 She and her family were sort of back and forth between Israel and the United States for many years.
00:46:57.000 They moved her permanently when she was 12.
00:47:00.000 She didn't get her citizenship until she was 23, and it was not because she married me.
00:47:04.000 They had already been married a couple of years.
00:47:05.000 Her green card finally ran, and so she had 10 years in the United States, and then she got citizenship.
00:47:12.000 Is that, was that length of that process truly necessary?
00:47:15.000 Her dad had been working at a major American company for years on end.
00:47:19.000 He had already gotten his citizenship.
00:47:21.000 So, what exactly was the holdup?
00:47:23.000 Our immigration system is broken, and this is just another indicator of it.
00:47:28.000 Zachary says, a co-worker and I often discuss complex and larger issues about life, the state of the country, etc.
00:47:33.000 One thing that has recently come up that we can't seem to figure out is automation and AI.
00:47:36.000 Now, I'm not a big fan of UBI, but in 10 or so years, when electric vehicles and self-driving vehicles become more prevalent, retail stores and fast food restaurants become mostly automated, which causes millions of jobs to evaporate, and not all of those people can be retrained to do something else.
00:47:49.000 Do you think we will inevitably end up with a UBI, or do you think there's a better solution?
00:47:53.000 Well, again, people are asking me to predict the future on these sorts of questions.
00:47:56.000 All I can say is that if the future looks like the past, the answer is no.
00:47:59.000 If the future looks like the past, then technology will be an aid to the creation of new jobs and new industries.
00:48:04.000 And we can look at a number of examples from modern American life.
00:48:08.000 First of all, 150 years ago, did we think there'd be a massive trucking industry?
00:48:11.000 No, because the car had not yet been invented, so it'd be very difficult to imagine a giant trucking industry.
00:48:16.000 Could we imagine an entire social media industry?
00:48:19.000 No, the internet was invented like 25, 30 years ago, or at least became widespread at that point.
00:48:25.000 We create new jobs and new industries all the time.
00:48:28.000 Like the Daily Wire, we're going to have probably, what, 100 employees over the next year?
00:48:34.000 None of those jobs exist in the absence of the internet or television.
00:48:38.000 None of that exists.
00:48:39.000 How many people are in the entertainment industry today?
00:48:41.000 That entertainment industry did not exist.
00:48:43.000 In other words, with new technology come new opportunities.
00:48:46.000 And the fact is that technology very often is an aid to job creation, not a killer of jobs.
00:48:51.000 It kills certain types of jobs always, but it also aids in the creation of new types of jobs, which tend to be, by the way, easier and less backbreaking than the old jobs.
00:48:59.000 I always find it kind of weird when people are like, I long for the days when my grandfather worked on a union line at Ford and he could afford a house.
00:49:06.000 You know what's probably a really bad job working on a union line at Ford?
00:49:09.000 Really, going in at like 8 in the morning, coming home at 5 at night, and all you did was just rivet stuff.
00:49:13.000 All day.
00:49:14.000 Is that a job you would take?
00:49:14.000 And maybe your grandfather thought it was a great job at the time, because that was the kind of job that was around at the time.
00:49:20.000 But would you rather sit on your fat can in an office, in an air-conditioned office, or would you prefer to be in a hot, sweltering factory riveting stuff 10 hours a day for 35 years?
00:49:32.000 I find it kind of, there's a certain level of ingratitude in American life that is really kind of galling to me.
00:49:37.000 This ingratitude that suggests that we really have it hard now, it was better how it used to be.
00:49:42.000 There are very few aspects of American life that are worse than they used to be, really.
00:49:46.000 Maybe some of our moral life, but certainly not much of our economic life.
00:49:49.000 Donnie says, can you explain how illegal immigrants cost America money?
00:49:52.000 I hear they pay all taxes from some people and just sales tax from others.
00:49:55.000 Well, they don't pay Income tax, obviously, because their income is not reportable.
00:49:59.000 They do pay sales tax.
00:50:01.000 They are a drain on America's resources in terms of public education if they have kids who become citizens and are not eligible for all sorts of government benefits.
00:50:09.000 Also, if you just come here as an illegal immigrant, you are eligible for certain state benefits.
00:50:13.000 You're not eligible for any federal benefits, but if you're an illegal immigrant in the state of California, there are certain state benefits that do accrue to you.
00:50:19.000 Plus, you can be a drain on our emergency rooms, for example.
00:50:22.000 There's a big debate over whether illegal immigration is of net cost or net benefit to the United States.
00:50:27.000 The statistics I've seen and tend to believe are the ones that suggest it is a net cost to the United States.
00:50:32.000 Okay, let's see.
00:50:33.000 One more question.
00:50:35.000 One more question.
00:50:36.000 David says, Hey Ben, my wife and I have five kids, four of whom were adopted out of the foster care.
00:50:40.000 Adopting has been by far the greatest decision in our lives.
00:50:43.000 It has lately been on our hearts to have another child.
00:50:45.000 And my wife and I can't help but feel pain for every victim of abortion.
00:50:48.000 I mean, what you're doing sounds a lot more important than what I'm doing, frankly.
00:50:51.000 That's an amazing, amazing thing.
00:50:52.000 I have nothing but admiration for people who adopt.
00:50:53.000 It's an incredible, incredible thing.
00:50:54.000 "that would otherwise have been aborted.
00:50:55.000 "We know we can't do much, "but we feel if we can give one child a loving home, "that's a good start.
00:50:59.000 "Thanks for all you do." Well, thanks for all you do.
00:51:00.000 I mean, what you're doing sounds a lot more important than what I'm doing, frankly.
00:51:03.000 That's an amazing, amazing thing.
00:51:04.000 I have nothing but admiration for people who adopt.
00:51:06.000 It's an incredible, incredible thing.
00:51:09.000 So, as far as agencies that do this, honestly, there are a lot of Catholic charities that specifically are sort of designed to reach out to folks who are contemplating abortion.
00:51:18.000 Also, there are pro-life pregnancy centers that you should check out because many of those recommend adoption rather than abortion to women.
00:51:23.000 Let's see, Ashley, final question.
00:51:25.000 Who do you think will sit on the Iron Throne?
00:51:28.000 Ah, now you've asked a question I care about.
00:51:29.000 So, This is a Game of Thrones question, so if you're not a Game of Thrones fan, it's tough.
00:51:33.000 So who do I think will sit on the Iron Throne?
00:51:36.000 Here is how I think the last season of Game of Thrones will go.
00:51:38.000 I think that Daenerys has been set up for too many seasons as the heroine to actually be the heroine.
00:51:42.000 I think that she is going to turn to the dark side, and she will go crazy, like her father did, because everyone else in her family has gone crazy.
00:51:49.000 Maybe she'll have a redeeming moment, like a Darth Vader moment, where it seems like she's going crazy, and at the very end, she stops herself.
00:51:55.000 But Daenerys is certainly going to die.
00:51:56.000 The chances of her surviving the series are zero.
00:51:59.000 I'd be willing to put money on this, really.
00:52:01.000 I think Jon Snow has already died, so killing him off would be anticlimactic.
00:52:04.000 I think he probably survives.
00:52:05.000 I think there's about a 50-50 shot that he's forced to kill Daenerys, especially since in the end of last season they went at it.
00:52:11.000 So, I have a feeling that this is the way Game of Thrones works.
00:52:13.000 I have a feeling he might be the one who has to kill her.
00:52:17.000 I think that there's a very good shot that, well, not a very good shot, a 100% shot that Jaime Lannister has to kill Cersei.
00:52:24.000 So, not Cersei, not Daenerys.
00:52:28.000 I think Jon is going to have to recede to the West.
00:52:30.000 He's been changed too much by his death and his comeback is going to be sort of like Frodo after throwing the ring in the fire.
00:52:35.000 I think in the end what happens is that Tyrion ends up leading a council of elders and they form a republic in Westeros, which would just suck, man.
00:52:42.000 No one wants that.
00:52:43.000 It's not called Game of Republics.
00:52:44.000 If we wanted to watch that, then we'd watch House of Cards or we'd watch American politics like as it is now, which is more dramatic and far funnier and crazier than Game of Thrones.
00:52:53.000 If it's a Game of Thrones, honestly, all the best candidates have been killed.
00:52:58.000 All the smart people died.
00:52:59.000 You know, this is one of my pet peeves about Game of Thrones.
00:53:00.000 It really annoys me.
00:53:02.000 Every person with a brain has been killed in Westeros.
00:53:05.000 Every single one.
00:53:05.000 And we keep hearing about how Tyrion, he knows things and he drinks.
00:53:11.000 He has not made one good decision the entire series.
00:53:14.000 And somehow he's the wisest guy there.
00:53:16.000 He has somehow failed as an advisor to Daenerys, as an advisor to Cersei.
00:53:21.000 As an advisor to who else?
00:53:23.000 He tried to save Sansa.
00:53:24.000 That was a giant fail.
00:53:25.000 Everything Tyrion has done has failed.
00:53:27.000 He's a garbage advisor.
00:53:28.000 He's tried to advise Jon Snow.
00:53:30.000 Giant fail there too.
00:53:31.000 He has failed like everywhere.
00:53:33.000 He's a giant fail of a human, Tyrion.
00:53:36.000 And he killed the only person in Westeros who actually knew how things run, Tywin.
00:53:41.000 Right?
00:53:41.000 Tywin was the best character on the show.
00:53:42.000 He was the only person who thought about things.
00:53:44.000 Between him and Olenna Tyrell, if they had married each other and they had ruled Westeros, everything is cool.
00:53:49.000 Sure, it would have been a dictatorship, but at least the trains would have run on time.
00:53:54.000 But, I mean, my goodness.
00:53:55.000 It is amazing.
00:53:58.000 Cersei is an idiot.
00:53:59.000 I love that her grand plan was, I'm going to blow Bleep up.
00:54:04.000 My grand plan is I'm going to gather all my enemies in this one place and then blow it up in fully anticlimactic fashion.
00:54:09.000 By the way, one of the most disappointing moments of the series.
00:54:11.000 I mean, this is full of spoilers, but too late.
00:54:13.000 You're here.
00:54:14.000 her blowing up the sept after they build up natalie dormer who's one of the better characters on the show and they just kill her off honestly the last season had a lot of flaws and and i i'm hoping they can save things i'm hoping they can save things but they've killed off the vast majority of interesting characters so i i just gave you my rundown on what i think happens to everybody I think Sansa ends up on the council with Tyrion.
00:54:36.000 I think that Jon recedes into the West.
00:54:38.000 Maybe he goes back and ends up leading the military or something, or he just goes and lives in peace as a farmer.
00:54:45.000 I think that Arya ends up regaining her innocence at some point, because they're not going to kill her off.
00:54:51.000 She's too young, but they're not going to allow her to retain her cool assassin ways.
00:54:56.000 So, I'm preparing for disappointment.
00:54:59.000 Just like you should in life, because that's just the way life works.
00:55:02.000 And Game of Thrones.
00:55:02.000 Alrighty, time for a thing I like and then a thing I hate.
00:55:05.000 You know what, we're gonna skip the thing I like today because Game of Thrones was the thing I like.
00:55:08.000 Let's do a thing I hate instead.
00:55:14.000 The thing I hate instead, everybody is ripping on John Wayne.
00:55:18.000 No one cares about an interview John Wayne did in 1971.
00:55:21.000 You know why John Wayne is an American icon?
00:55:23.000 He's an American icon because of the movies that he made.
00:55:26.000 That's why he's an American icon.
00:55:27.000 Do you know anything about Cary Grant's political views?
00:55:29.000 Do you know anything about Clark Gable's political views?
00:55:32.000 Do you know anything about Vivian Leigh's political views?
00:55:34.000 Do you know anything about any of the great movie stars' political views, really, unless they were members of the ...of the Soviet bloc and we're prosecuted in Hollywood and then we make a bunch of movies glamorizing them.
00:55:45.000 John Wayne is an American icon because he's the most famous actor in Hollywood history, and because he made a lot of fantastic movies, and because the image that Hollywood created of the American cowboy is one of the enduring images of the West.
00:55:58.000 That is why.
00:55:59.000 Now there are people calling for his name to be taken off the John Wayne Airport in Orange County because of a 1971 Playboy interview that he did, which showed that he was really out of touch.
00:56:10.000 Come on.
00:56:12.000 Come on.
00:56:13.000 I mean, this is of the same ilk as, let's take George Washington's name off of universities and off of states, and let's get rid of Thomas Jefferson.
00:56:20.000 Again, the accomplishments of Thomas Jefferson and George Washington, slightly more important than the accomplishments of John Wayne.
00:56:25.000 But I'm really tired of this notion that by valorizing certain aspects of people's personas and personalities, that we are therefore green-lighting every aspect of them.
00:56:35.000 It's one of my great pet peeves.
00:56:37.000 People do this with Washington.
00:56:38.000 Oh, well, if you have a statue of Washington, you're saying it was okay to own slaves.
00:56:41.000 Really, am I?
00:56:42.000 Or am I saying it's a good thing that he helped establish the United States and oversaw the Constitutional Convention and was a great president?
00:56:48.000 When there's a statue of Jefferson, am I really saying I think it was good that he shook Sally Hemings and kept her in a form of sex slavery for years?
00:56:55.000 No, I'm not saying any of those things.
00:56:57.000 It turns out human beings are complex.
00:56:59.000 They have good things, they have bad things, but the part that we build statues to typically is the part of them that is good.
00:57:04.000 Now the reason statues should come down is if there is no good, right?
00:57:06.000 So if Saddam Hussein There's a statue of Saddam Hussein.
00:57:09.000 I challenge you.
00:57:10.000 What is the good thing Saddam Hussein deserves a statue for?
00:57:12.000 If I ask you what is the good thing Thomas Jefferson deserves a statue for, or John Wayne, or George Washington, or any of these folks, I think that the answer is pretty obvious.
00:57:22.000 This is why I think that the argument over Confederate statues is more of an interesting one than the one over John Wayne.
00:57:28.000 You can make the case that Confederate statues should not exist by dint of the fact that there is nothing good that these folks stood for.
00:57:35.000 They were standing for slavery.
00:57:36.000 They were literally fighting for slavery.
00:57:37.000 I think they should be left up as a monument to America's past.
00:57:42.000 I think that not to honor them, but to remind us that people can do evil things.
00:57:48.000 And justify it to themselves for decades at a time.
00:57:51.000 So I'm not even a fan of tearing down, like, Lenin statues or Saddam Hussein statues.
00:57:55.000 I think that stuff should be left up as a monument to human evil.
00:57:58.000 But, with that said, the John Wayne airport is not a monument to human evil.
00:58:02.000 It's a monument to a guy who was in some of the best movies in American history, it's a monument to the guy from True Grit, and she wore a yellow rose, and like, just...
00:58:09.000 Get over yourselves.
00:58:10.000 Honest to God, people.
00:58:12.000 If these are your big problems, John Wayne can't be— We found an interview from a dead guy 50 years ago and we're so mad.
00:58:18.000 Find some new problems.
00:58:19.000 Find some new problems.
00:58:20.000 Alrighty.
00:58:21.000 We'll be back a little bit later today with two additional hours of The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:58:24.000 That's why you should subscribe.
00:58:25.000 Otherwise, we will see you here on Monday.
00:58:27.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:58:27.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:58:33.000 The Ben Shapiro Show is produced by Senya Villarreal.
00:58:35.000 Executive producer, Jeremy Boring.
00:58:37.000 Senior producer, Jonathan Hay.
00:58:39.000 Our supervising producer is Mathis Glover.
00:58:41.000 And our technical producer is Austin Stevens.
00:58:43.000 Edited by Adam Sajovic.
00:58:44.000 Audio is mixed by Mike Karomina.
00:58:46.000 Hair and makeup is by Jesua Olvera.
00:58:47.000 Production assistant, Nick Sheehan.
00:58:49.000 The Ben Shapiro Show is a Daily Wire production.