The Ben Shapiro Show - October 29, 2015


Ep. 17 - Debate Postmortem


Episode Stats

Length

35 minutes

Words per Minute

201.60909

Word Count

7,100

Sentence Count

532

Misogynist Sentences

8

Hate Speech Sentences

4


Summary

In what had to rank as the worst presidential debate in modern history, CNBC anchors berated, cut off, and skewed the words of all the Republican candidates over the course of two absolutely stultifying hours on Wednesday night. In spite of, and in the case of, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz and Chris Christie, because of that terrible moderation, Republicans emerged looking better for wear. They needed to show they had elbows, and many of them did. So, without further ado, here are the third Republican Debates Grades: Donald Trump gets a B. Ben Carson gets a C. Marco Rubio gets an A. Ted Cruz had the best moment of the entire night. Rand Paul gets a D. Jeb Bush gets an F. And Rand Paul was the unkindest of the last debate. There's no place better to go to go down in the polls than to vote for Rand Paul, but there's no doubt that Rand's campaign had a night to forget it, too. And he did it in the worst way possible, which is a good thing, because Rand Paul's campaign did not even bother to mention that he's running for president in this debate. And that's not even close to being the worst of the three debates I've ever seen in a primary debate, let alone the worst one I've been in a presidential debate, and I'm not even joking about it. I think we'll all agree that Rand Paul needs to do better than he did last night, and that's a good night for his campaign needs to be much better than it was last night. -- and he did a good job of explaining why he should win the primary debates he's been in the past two months. in a way that we've seen in the last two debates, and we can all agree he deserves a shot at being the best of his chances to be the next one in the next primary debates in 2020, not the last one. I hope you agree with me that he did that in a major primary debate in 2020. ...and that's why Rand Paul should be the best in the primary debate I've seen so far so far, right here in this past week, right there in Iowa, in Iowa and in New Hampshire, in South Carolina, in New York, in fact, in Las Vegas, in Chicago, in San Francisco, in Los Angeles, New York City, in Atlanta, New Jersey, in Boston, and so on, in Baltimore, New Mexico, etc.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 In what had to rank as the worst presidential debate in modern history, CNBC anchors berated, cut off, and skewed the words of all the Republican candidates over the course of two absolutely stultifying hours on Wednesday night.
00:00:13.000 In spite of, and in the case of Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz and Chris Christie,
00:00:17.000 Because of that terrible moderation, Republicans actually emerged looking better for wear.
00:00:23.000 They needed to show they had elbows, and many of them did.
00:00:25.000 So, without further ado, here are the third Republican debate grades.
00:00:30.000 Donald Trump gets a B. In the run-up to the debate, I said that Trump actually needed to stay away from attacking the other candidates, and actually, he basically did.
00:00:38.000 The only time that he went after anybody else is when an aggressively nasty John Kasich
00:00:43.000 And Trump did a great job of going after the media.
00:00:52.000 I've been saying for months, for years actually, that going after the media is the best path to victory for Republicans.
00:00:57.000 Trump did it.
00:00:58.000 His final riposte against the CNBC powers that be, in which he bragged about forcing them to reduce the length of the debate to two hours, was classic.
00:01:07.000 The only reason Trump got a B, rather than an A, was because he was caught red-handed in a lie about his position on H-1B visas.
00:01:14.000 It became clear Trump hadn't even read his own immigration plan, or if he did, he didn't know it well enough for a debate.
00:01:20.000 Doesn't matter.
00:01:21.000 All of his fans still love him, and all of his detractors still hate him.
00:01:23.000 It's a B.
00:01:25.000 Ben Carson, this was the guy coming in with all the momentum.
00:01:28.000 He exits without it.
00:01:29.000 He has a C. He didn't have much to say throughout the debate.
00:01:32.000 He flubbed his answers on his tax plan.
00:01:33.000 He looked uncertain.
00:01:34.000 He looked erratic.
00:01:35.000 He looked weak.
00:01:36.000 Occasionally, he gets off a strong note.
00:01:38.000 Whenever he talks about social issues, Carson is great.
00:01:40.000 But every time he's not talking about social issues, he looks weak.
00:01:43.000 He even acknowledged that his weakness, his personal weakness, could be his own inability to consider himself a presidential candidate, which seems a pretty fair summation.
00:01:52.000 Marco Rubio.
00:01:53.000 Rubio pulls an A. Rubio had a really, really good night.
00:01:56.000 As I said yesterday, Marco Rubio is a terrific defensive fighter.
00:01:59.000 He was going to be attacked, and he was.
00:02:00.000 He was smooth on defense.
00:02:01.000 He was willing to jab at the media.
00:02:03.000 He labeled the media the Democratic Party's super PAC.
00:02:05.000 It was a terrific moment, and it was a moment underscored by Hillary's lackeys at CNBC attacking him the entire debate with discredited talking point after discredited talking point.
00:02:15.000 John Harwood, who is an absolute
00:02:18.000 We'll get to Jeb Bush in just a minute.
00:02:20.000 So Marco Rubio, he gets an A.
00:02:40.000 Moving on, Ted Cruz.
00:02:41.000 Ted Cruz had the best moment of the entire night.
00:02:43.000 Ted Cruz gets an A. Big moment for him.
00:02:45.000 As I said yesterday, Ted Cruz needed a spontaneous moment.
00:02:49.000 Something off-script.
00:02:50.000 He got it last night.
00:02:51.000 Ted Cruz said that the questions asked by the idiotic moderators, quote, illustrate why the American people don't trust the media.
00:02:57.000 He then said this is not a cage match.
00:03:00.000 He said the debate between Democrats was a debate between Bolsheviks and Mensheviks, and he contrasted the media treatment of Republicans with media treatment of Democrats.
00:03:08.000 He said where every fawning question from the media was which one of you is more handsome and wise.
00:03:13.000 Cruz then pointed out that none of these members of the media would be voting in Republican primaries.
00:03:18.000 Cruz needed to be aggressive after a couple of passive debates, and he was, in a very big way.
00:03:23.000 Frank Luntz, who I don't tend to like, his focus group, though, rated that 98%, that moment for Ted Cruz.
00:03:29.000 It basically muted the television for the next few minutes.
00:03:31.000 Big moment for Ted Cruz.
00:03:33.000 Cruz is for real.
00:03:34.000 And he and Rubio are the shadow frontrunners behind Trump and the fading Carson.
00:03:39.000 Jeb Bush.
00:03:40.000 Bush pulls an F.
00:03:42.000 Jeb Bush was awful.
00:03:44.000 He couldn't dent Rubio.
00:03:45.000 He couldn't dent Trump.
00:03:47.000 He appeared alternatively bewildered and angry, sort of like a man standing off the side of a freeway complaining about the weather.
00:03:53.000 He sided with the members of the media rather than doing the right thing and tearing them apart, unlike the other intelligent candidates.
00:03:59.000 He's done.
00:03:59.000 He's toast.
00:04:00.000 Turn out the lights.
00:04:01.000 Good night.
00:04:02.000 Rubio's candidacy, his campaign, had the unkindest cut of all.
00:04:06.000 His campaign manager was asked about Bush's performance.
00:04:08.000 He said he wouldn't even bother critiquing it because it spoke for itself.
00:04:13.000 Carly Fiorina, she got to B. She was polished, she was composed, she was witty.
00:04:17.000 Doesn't matter.
00:04:18.000 She did really well in the last debate.
00:04:19.000 There's no place for her to go but down.
00:04:22.000 Rand Paul, he gets a D. Rand Paul, was he even there last night?
00:04:25.000 I'm still not sure.
00:04:27.000 If you were a member of the Colorado Public Smoking Pot, you could be forgiven for missing his presence.
00:04:32.000 He vowed to filibuster the new budget deal, which looked like a desperation play and didn't even land with the heavily conservative audience.
00:04:38.000 Rand Paul will be dropping out of the race momentarily.
00:04:41.000 Mike Huckabee pulls a C2.
00:04:43.000 Huckabee's always fine in debate.
00:04:44.000 He had a couple of good lines against the media.
00:04:46.000 But his star has waned.
00:04:47.000 His economic populism made him seem kind of dissonant in the more free market crowd.
00:04:53.000 Chris Christie.
00:04:54.000 Christie had a pretty solid night.
00:04:56.000 He got a B.
00:04:57.000 He has a feel for the room.
00:04:59.000 He understands the mood.
00:05:00.000 He bashed the media.
00:05:01.000 He told the idiotic John Harwood that John Harwood was rude even by New Jersey standards, which was a great line.
00:05:06.000 He even scored on entitlement reform, and he appeared to be actually good-natured with his colleagues, which is totally at odds with his normal persona.
00:05:14.000 A very good night for Chris Christie.
00:05:15.000 He has become a dark horse.
00:05:17.000 And finally, we get to John Kasich.
00:05:19.000 John Kasich.
00:05:22.000 John Kasich.
00:05:23.000 That dude is the worst.
00:05:24.000 And he got an F.
00:05:38.000 Truthfully, Trump put his candidacy under the ground in the first five minutes of the debate.
00:05:42.000 John Kasich basically looked as though he was building up either for a very large bout of flatulence or to actually explode.
00:05:51.000 And it was the flatulence that just came out of his face.
00:05:54.000 CNBC, their grade, they get a Z. There are no letter grades that properly fit how terrible the network was.
00:05:59.000 The network was so bad, even Reince Priebus had to condemn them.
00:06:03.000 So here's the good news.
00:06:04.000 The field is consolidating.
00:06:06.000 The top three in the end will be Trump and Rubio and Cruz.
00:06:09.000 Chris Christie may be the new dark horse.
00:06:12.000 Jeb Bush?
00:06:13.000 He's done.
00:06:14.000 And the race is on.
00:06:15.000 I'm Ben Shapiro and this is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:06:23.000 Alrighty, so, it is the day after the third Republican presidential debate.
00:06:27.000 If I look tired, it's because I made a big sacrifice for all of you people.
00:06:30.000 And if it sounds like I resent you, it's because I do.
00:06:33.000 I wasted three hours of my time watching that inane bullsh- Okay, so, here's what I thought after watching that inane BS.
00:06:43.000 There's a good side and there's the bad side.
00:06:45.000 The bad side is that CNBC is a disaster area, as we'll get to in a moment.
00:06:48.000 Reince Priebus should be fired for allowing this kind of debate to occur.
00:06:51.000 The good side is that this debate was an acid test.
00:06:54.000 What I mean by that is that it made clear very quickly who belongs on the stage and who does not.
00:06:59.000 Because the truth is, and this has always been the truth and I've been saying it for years if you've been a fan of mine, if you listen to the podcast, if you listen to my radio shows, you know, I believe the true enemy of the Republicans are the media.
00:07:11.000 The media are the enemy.
00:07:13.000 The media have always been the enemy.
00:07:14.000 And the media proved last night that they're the enemy, and if Republicans want to win in 2016, they don't just need to out-compete Hillary Clinton, they need to find some sort of way to smack the media as hard in the face as often as humanly possible.
00:07:27.000 And last night was proof of that.
00:07:29.000 All he had to do was watch John Harwood.
00:07:30.000 John Harwood is a big Hillary Clinton fan, and John Harwood... I mean, there are no clean words, non-four-letter words, that I can say about John Harwood that are perfectly appropriate for who this guy is.
00:07:42.000 I mean, he is just... He was awful last night.
00:07:45.000 He was awful in general.
00:07:47.000 There's no way he should have been anywhere near a debate stage.
00:07:49.000 He certainly shouldn't have been a moderator.
00:07:51.000 It angers me simply because whenever people lie, it makes me upset, and when you lie and say you're an objective person, it makes me annoyed.
00:07:57.000 See, I'm a conservative.
00:07:58.000 I'll tell you right off the bat I'm a conservative.
00:08:00.000 If you put me moderating Hillary Clinton's debate, my first question to her would be, why are you such a liar?
00:08:04.000 And my second question to her would be, why did you allow your husband to rape people?
00:08:08.000 So it wouldn't exactly be a great debate for her.
00:08:10.000 But I'm a conservative.
00:08:11.000 I mean, this is what I do.
00:08:14.000 John Harwood pretends to be objective.
00:08:16.000 And John Harwood is not objective, as you will see from this montage of John Harwood's questions last night.
00:08:21.000 John Harwood is... is...
00:08:24.000 Let's put it this way.
00:08:25.000 If Donald Trump had found an excuse to hit John Harwood physically with the podium, Donald Trump not only would have been elected president, he would have been appointed king.
00:08:33.000 Here is John Harwood last night on CNBC.
00:08:36.000 When you came into office with a budget surplus in the state of Louisiana, now years later, the state legislature faced a $1.6 billion budget gap and the Republican state treasurer called one of your approaches to that problem, nonsense on a stick, quoting him.
00:08:53.000 Are you going to do for the federal budget what you did for the Louisiana budget?
00:08:55.000 Absolutely, John.
00:08:56.000 If you're a young student here, you've not seen a robust American economy.
00:08:59.000 But Governor Jindal, as you know, many Republicans are opposed to the approach that you've taken in Louisiana.
00:09:05.000 They complain that you have tried so hard to avoid anything that could be called a tax increase so that you could run for president saying you'd never raise taxes.
00:09:15.000 You've had the worst economic recovery since the Great Depression.
00:09:19.000 So you see John Harwood there, and those points that he's using right there about the budget gap are completely discredited.
00:09:24.000 They're not true.
00:09:25.000 And in fact, Jindal says that the budget gap that existed at the beginning of the year no longer exists.
00:09:30.000 But Harwood just argues with people.
00:09:31.000 You'll see, it's a continuing theme throughout here.
00:09:33.000 It wasn't just that Harwood would ask a bad question.
00:09:36.000 It was then, if he didn't get a question that Hillary Clinton would have loved, he began arguing with people.
00:09:41.000 He makes Candy Crowley look like Sean Hannity.
00:09:44.000 I mean, he won... Last night, John Harwood... I think he finished his career.
00:09:48.000 I really do.
00:09:48.000 I think that John Harwood basically ended his career last night.
00:09:51.000 People are calling for him to be fired.
00:09:54.000 He should be fired.
00:09:55.000 And his office should be salted.
00:09:56.000 I mean, it was that bad.
00:09:58.000 Here is John Harwood going after George Pataki.
00:10:01.000 ...policy in Washington and policy at the Fed.
00:10:04.000 And let me go back to Washington.
00:10:05.000 In 2009... Senator, I mean, Governor, if that's true, why was our economy limping six years ago, and now it's the strongest in the world?
00:10:15.000 You've done very well in this campaign so far.
00:10:16.000 I'm sorry, it's just propaganda.
00:10:18.000 Sorry, it's just propaganda.
00:10:19.000 I mean, he's actually, like, repeating Obama propaganda points.
00:10:22.000 Our economy was limping along, now it's the strongest in the world.
00:10:24.000 What a booming recovery we've had.
00:10:26.000 Today, the news came out that in Q3, the economy grew by a whopping 1.5%.
00:10:29.000 1.5%.
00:10:30.000 We're not even outpacing the rate of inflation.
00:10:34.000 But John Harwood, I mean, seriously.
00:10:36.000 It's unbelievable.
00:10:38.000 The real miracle last night is that John Harwood could ask questions with his tongue all the way up Obama's colon.
00:10:43.000 And here is John Harwood continuing.
00:10:46.000 Promising to build a wall and make another country pay for it.
00:10:48.000 Right.
00:10:49.000 Send 11 million people out of the country.
00:10:52.000 Cut taxes ten trillion dollars without increasing the deficit.
00:10:56.000 Right.
00:10:57.000 And make Americans better off because your greatness would replace the stupidity and incompetence of others.
00:11:02.000 That's right.
00:11:03.000 Let's be honest.
00:11:05.000 Is this a comic book version of a presidential campaign?
00:11:08.000 You give nearly twice as much of a gain in after-tax income to the top 1% as to people in the middle of the income scale.
00:11:17.000 Since you're the champion of Americans living paycheck to paycheck, don't you have that backward?
00:11:22.000 No, you're wrong.
00:11:23.000 I talked to economic advisors who have served presidents of both parties.
00:11:28.000 They said that you have as much chance of cutting taxes that much without increasing the deficit as you would of flying away from that podium by flapping your arms as a preacher as well as a politician.
00:11:36.000 I mean, this is egregious stuff.
00:11:37.000 Sorry, this is just, it's egregious stuff.
00:11:39.000 It's egregious stuff.
00:11:40.000 I mean, the first thing that he asked Trump, is this a comic book version of a presidency?
00:11:43.000 That's not a question, that's an attack.
00:11:45.000 There's no way to answer that, right?
00:11:46.000 Because it's not a question, it's a rhetorical question.
00:11:48.000 This is a comic book, if it were a comic book version of a presidency, Trump immediately would have leapt the podium, grabbed him like the Hulk, and torn him bodily asunder.
00:11:58.000 Okay, but the fact, and then he asks that question, the question that he asks to Marco Rubio there about tax, about his tax plan, saying that it would have given more money to rich people than poor people.
00:12:07.000 Not only is John Harwood factually wrong, not only is he factually wrong, he tweeted that out several weeks ago and had to correct himself already several weeks ago on Twitter.
00:12:17.000 And then he comes back with the original claim that he already corrected himself on Twitter.
00:12:20.000 And he's quoting the Tax Foundation?
00:12:22.000 The Tax Foundation, which is this non-profit group, they came out and said that John Harwood got it wrong last night.
00:12:27.000 This morning, on Twitter, John Harwood was tripling down on it.
00:12:30.000 Okay, I mean, this is how bad the moderator, and it wasn't just John Harwood, I mean, he was the worst of them.
00:12:34.000 Betsy Quick, or Becky Quick, she was terrible.
00:12:37.000 Carl Quintanilla was awful all the way through.
00:12:40.000 Their questions, question after question after question, was just an attack upon an attack upon an attack.
00:12:45.000 All of this was awful and demonstrates how truly, egregiously bad the media are and how biased they are and how terrible they are, but it set up Ted Cruz for a very big moment.
00:12:55.000 Ted Cruz, after basically going missing in action for the first 20 minutes while the moderators ask everybody else questions, Ted's kind of sitting on one end of the stage, the senator from Texas.
00:13:04.000 And finally they get to him and they ask him a question about why he would shut down the government, right?
00:13:09.000 Another gotcha question.
00:13:11.000 Why are you so happy about shutting down the government when it's going to ruin the economy and zombies will walk the streets?
00:13:15.000 Blah blah blah blah blah.
00:13:16.000 And Ted Cruz comes back and drops both the hammer and the mic in this one.
00:13:21.000 Here is Ted Cruz going after the CNBC moderators.
00:13:25.000 You know, let me say something at the outset.
00:13:27.000 The questions that...
00:13:29.000 ...so far in this debate, illustrate why the American people don't trust the media.
00:13:39.000 This is not a cage match.
00:13:41.000 And you look at the questions.
00:13:43.000 Donald Trump, are you a comic book villain?
00:13:45.000 Ben Carson, can you do math?
00:13:47.000 John Kasich, will you insult two people over here?
00:13:49.000 Marco Rubio, why don't you resign?
00:13:51.000 Jeb Bush, why have your numbers fallen?
00:13:54.000 How about talking about the substantive issues people care about?
00:14:01.000 Does this count?
00:14:03.000 Do we get credit for this one?
00:14:07.000 Carl, I'm not finished yet.
00:14:08.000 The contrast with the Democratic debate, where every fawning question from the media was, which of you is more handsome and wise?
00:14:18.000 So, this is a question about the debt limit, which you have 30 seconds left to answer, should you choose to do so.
00:14:25.000 Let me be clear.
00:14:27.000 The men and women on this stage,
00:14:29.000 have more ideas, more experience, more common sense than every participant in the Democratic debate.
00:14:36.000 That debate reflected a debate between the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks.
00:14:43.000 And nobody watching at home believes that any of the moderators has any intention of voting in a Republican primary.
00:14:51.000 The questions that are being asked shouldn't be trying to get people to tear into each other.
00:14:56.000 It should be, what are your substantive solutions to people... I just want the record to reflect that I asked you about the debt limit and I got no answer.
00:15:03.000 You want me to answer that question?
00:15:05.000 I'm happy to answer the question.
00:15:07.000 I'm happy to answer the question, but let me tell you how the question is.
00:15:11.000 Let me tell you how the question is.
00:15:13.000 So you don't actually want to hear the answer?
00:15:15.000 Okay, so, you can see, number one, Ted hits them exactly where they live, and you can see that Carl Quintanilla, who's the guy asking the question there, he gets very upset.
00:15:34.000 Because Ted has punctured his sort of balloon of his persona of objectivity.
00:15:41.000 He gets very upset.
00:15:42.000 So you're not going to answer the question.
00:15:43.000 We'll just take it for the record.
00:15:44.000 We're not going to answer the question.
00:15:46.000 I went to school with all these people like this at UCLA and Harvard Law School, where the minute that you question their motivations by proclaiming the truth about their motivations, they get very huffy.
00:15:55.000 And the huffiness, the kind of clutching of the pearls that Carl Quintanilla does there.
00:15:59.000 Well, you know, I guess you just don't want to answer the question.
00:16:01.000 Then Cruz says, fine, I'm happy to answer the question.
00:16:03.000 And what Cruz was going to say is the way you phrased the question was to make it seem like I want to shut down the government when the president of the United States wants to shut down the government in order to preserve a blowout budget, right?
00:16:13.000 That's where Cruz was going to go.
00:16:15.000 And in fact, that is where Cruz went much later in the debate.
00:16:18.000 But then he had to have John Harwood jump in there and say, well, you know, you used up your time.
00:16:22.000 We're not going to let you talk anymore.
00:16:23.000 It's too mean.
00:16:24.000 We're not going to let you talk anymore.
00:16:26.000 All the three asshats who are sitting there, making fools of themselves, they handed that debate to Ted Cruz.
00:16:33.000 For the next several minutes, Rand Paul had to answer the next question.
00:16:36.000 And honest to God, I don't remember a word of what Rand Paul said.
00:16:39.000 Because there are certain moments in a debate
00:16:42.000 Where somebody says something that just reverberates and really has resonance with the people who are watching and listening.
00:16:48.000 That was one such moment.
00:16:50.000 It was a very big moment for Ted Cruz and his campaign.
00:16:53.000 It was a Mr. Breen moment back in 1980 when Ronald Reagan was running for president.
00:16:57.000 There was a New Hampshire debate.
00:16:58.000 And they wanted to cut off Ronald Reagan's microphone, and he had actually paid for it, and he said, Mr. Breen, I paid for this microphone.
00:17:04.000 It was a very big moment for him.
00:17:05.000 Imagistic moments like this is what Republicans have to understand.
00:17:08.000 The policy wonkishness of Marco Rubio, or the smoothness of Carly Fiorina, or the ability to speak in detail about drone proposals from Rand Paul, none of that makes one bit of difference.
00:17:22.000 This is why Donald Trump is still winning, by the way.
00:17:24.000 Persona is all that matters.
00:17:26.000 Trump is still winning because Trump
00:17:28.000 He continued to kind of push his persona last night.
00:17:30.000 He had a couple of great lines last night.
00:17:33.000 At the very end of the debate, Trump did something that was wonderful.
00:17:37.000 Trump actually did a few things that were wonderful last night.
00:17:38.000 We'll get to those in just a second.
00:17:40.000 But it is important to point out that attacking the media is a winning strategy for Republicans.
00:17:45.000 People like the media even less than they like Republicans.
00:17:48.000 So by attacking members of the media, you actually succeed.
00:17:51.000 Newt Gingrich did this in 2012.
00:17:53.000 People tend to brush off Gingrich's candidacy.
00:17:55.000 Gingrich went from last place to first place, basically, by attacking members of the media.
00:18:00.000 And the reason is because they're that bad.
00:18:02.000 They're that egregious.
00:18:03.000 And you watch that clip and you can't help but think, these aren't moderators.
00:18:06.000 These are activists on behalf of Democrats.
00:18:08.000 Attacking the media is an effective tactic.
00:18:11.000 It's a useful and effective tactic.
00:18:13.000 And all the Republicans ought to be doing it on a regular basis.
00:18:17.000 Props to Ted Cruz.
00:18:18.000 Props to Marco Rubio.
00:18:19.000 Props to Chris Christie.
00:18:21.000 Ben Carson, who didn't attack the media too much last night, he came out after the debate and he said he's getting sick and tired of this debate strategy.
00:18:28.000 He says he's sick and tired of the media bias here, as Ben Carson, who did not perform particularly well last night, but at least has enough wherewithal to understand that the battle is just as much against the left media as it is against the Democratic Party.
00:18:40.000 Well, I think they obviously had an agenda, and when I compare them to the kind of questions that were asked of the Democrats in their debate, the difference is night and day.
00:18:53.000 But the thing that was really encouraging to me is that the audience was able to pick up on the bias, and they were able to act accordingly.
00:19:02.000 And I hope some of the media is starting to recognize this, because as you know, I have been quite critical of the media.
00:19:10.000 They have their own agenda.
00:19:12.000 They try to formulate the opinions of the people.
00:19:17.000 And I think that people are getting a little sick and tired of it.
00:19:20.000 I know I am.
00:19:22.000 Now the reviews are in from yesterday, and even members of the media are now having to pretend to care about media bias.
00:19:28.000 So people over at the Washington Post say this is egregious, and people at the New York Times say that it was over the top.
00:19:33.000 When those people are saying you're over the top, there's only one reason they do that.
00:19:36.000 And it's because they were fine with you being over the top.
00:19:38.000 They just didn't like that you got caught.
00:19:40.000 Right?
00:19:41.000 They're part of the conspiracy.
00:19:42.000 They just didn't like that you made it too obvious.
00:19:44.000 And CNBC made it perfectly obvious last night what their perspective was on this race.
00:19:48.000 It was bad all the way through.
00:19:50.000 So Cruz was one big winner last night.
00:19:52.000 Another big winner last night was Marco Rubio.
00:19:55.000 And there was a point at which Marco Rubio scolded the media.
00:19:58.000 And here's what it sounded like when Marco Rubio went after the media yesterday.
00:20:04.000 Democrats have the ultimate superpacket called the mainstream media.
00:20:08.000 Whoever's seen it... And I'll tell you why.
00:20:12.000 Last week, Hillary Clinton went before a committee.
00:20:15.000 She admitted she had sent emails to her family saying, hey, this attack in Benghazi was caused by Al-Qaeda-like elements.
00:20:22.000 She spent over a week telling the families of those victims and the American people that it was because of a video.
00:20:28.000 And yet the mainstream media is going around saying it was the greatest week in Hillary Clinton's campaign.
00:20:32.000 It was the week she got exposed as a liar.
00:20:34.000 It was the week that she got exposed as a liar in Benghazi.
00:20:38.000 But she has her super PAC helping her out, the American mainstream media.
00:20:43.000 And of course, he's exactly right, too.
00:20:44.000 It turned into a beat-up-the-media-fest, and what made that kind of entertaining after a certain point, because I'm a sadist, is because the media absolutely deserve every moment of this, even when they ask legit questions.
00:20:55.000 And late in the debate, they actually got some legit questions.
00:20:58.000 Nobody took the questions seriously, because after all, we know that the media are lying in order to protect their favored candidates.
00:21:05.000 So, Rubio had a good night.
00:21:06.000 Cruz had a good night.
00:21:08.000 Donald Trump had a pretty good night.
00:21:09.000 And it started right from the very beginning.
00:21:11.000 Donald Trump, first of all, I have to say, I follow these debates and I live blog them over at DailyWire.com and I tweet about them and you can follow me at Ben Shapiro if you aren't already.
00:21:22.000 And I tweet out kind of campaign lookalikes just for fun before the debates.
00:21:27.000 And Trump, I tweeted a picture of Trump and then a picture of a very, very fat lion.
00:21:31.000 And that is sort of what Trump was.
00:21:34.000 I mean, he's just kind of like, he's not a full-on roaring in-his-youth lion.
00:21:39.000 He's sort of a guy who sits there, and he paws at the air, and then every so often, if you really poke him, then he eats your face.
00:21:46.000 And yesterday, John Kasich of Ohio, who's a blustering, bloviating idiot, John Kasich went after Donald Trump, and Donald Trump took John Kasich's face and gave him a swaddling.
00:21:59.000 It was really bad for John Kasich.
00:22:01.000 Here is Trump going after John Kasich and basically finishing John Kasich's candidacy.
00:22:06.000 You said yesterday that you were hearing proposals that were just crazy from your colleagues.
00:22:11.000 Who are you talking about?
00:22:12.000 Well, I mean right here to talk about we're just going to have a 10% tithe and that's how we're going to fund the government and we're not we're going to just fix everything with waste, fraud and abuse.
00:22:22.000 Or that we're just going to be great?
00:22:24.000 Or we're going to ship 10 million Americans or 10 million people out of this country?
00:22:28.000 So he keeps poking the lion, he's poking the fat lion.
00:22:31.000 And at a certain point, you poke the fat lion too much and the fat lion rises.
00:22:35.000 And you can see, Kasich, who is, I don't know what his new strategy is, I'm just going to yell at Republicans all the time.
00:22:42.000 I mean, his voice has never dropped below about a nine on the spinal tap scale here.
00:22:49.000 He's just, he's screaming and yelling the entire time.
00:22:51.000 And finally, they go, they're about to go to Trump.
00:22:53.000 And when they go to Trump, it's entertaining because it's sort of, it's like a horror movie.
00:22:58.000 They open the closet.
00:23:00.000 And what they get is not what they were bargaining for.
00:23:02.000 This is one of the more entertaining moments of the debate.
00:23:17.000 ...took every one of us with us, including Ben and myself.
00:23:21.000 Because I was there, and I watched what happened, and Lehman Brothers started it all.
00:23:25.000 He was on the board, and he was a managing general partner.
00:23:29.000 And just thirdly, he was so nice.
00:23:31.000 He was such a nice guy.
00:23:33.000 And he said, oh, I'm never going to attack.
00:23:35.000 But then his poll numbers tanked.
00:23:37.000 That's why he's on the end.
00:23:39.000 And he got nasty.
00:23:40.000 And he got nasty.
00:23:42.000 So you know what?
00:23:43.000 You can have him.
00:23:45.000 Yeah, let me just... Oh, angry lion, angry lion!
00:23:48.000 Okay, so he can stop.
00:23:49.000 So yeah, that's great.
00:23:50.000 That was a good moment for Trump.
00:23:52.000 He had a couple other good moments.
00:23:53.000 He led off the debate by saying that his big weakness is that he never forgives, which is just awesome.
00:23:58.000 I mean, it's just great.
00:23:59.000 It's such a mafioso line.
00:24:00.000 It should actually be the tagline of his movie.
00:24:02.000 It should be, Trump, he never forgives.
00:24:07.000 You crossed him once, he won't be crossed again.
00:24:09.000 It's just—which also, by the way, is the slogan for The Passion, too.
00:24:13.000 But Trump, he had a couple of other good moments in the debate.
00:24:19.000 At the very end, he really smacked CNBC incredibly hard.
00:24:22.000 He said that he should be elected because he wins, and the way that you know that he wins is because Donald Trump convinced CNBC to drop an hour.
00:24:30.000 From the debate, and because they dropped an hour from the debate, everybody can go home and finish with this nonsense.
00:24:37.000 It was very good stuff from Donald Trump.
00:24:39.000 He's also, I mean, he's just great on TV.
00:24:40.000 I mean, whatever else you have to say about Trump, and when you see him doing it, you can't see it, folks, if you're listening, which is why you should subscribe, but if you actually watch the video of Trump here, when he's ripping into Kasich, it's so wildly entertaining because he's making faces, his resting, there's a term my sisters use, and I can't,
00:24:58.000 I'm not supposed to say bad words on this show.
00:25:00.000 And it's really hard, because I know that I'm not on radio, so I really want to.
00:25:03.000 But there's something that they call a resting B-face.
00:25:05.000 And Lindsay knows what I'm talking about, right?
00:25:07.000 You know, this is... exactly.
00:25:09.000 Lindsay's doing it right now.
00:25:10.000 And that is, what does your face look like when nobody knows that you're... when nobody's watching you?
00:25:15.000 When you're just sitting around, what does your face look like?
00:25:17.000 And some people have kind of like the grumpy face, and some people have like a little smile.
00:25:21.000 Donald Trump's resting face is the...
00:25:24.000 If you bother me in any way, this is going to go ugly for everyone, right?
00:25:30.000 His resting face is like... And it's just, it's phenomenal.
00:25:35.000 And then when he breaks from that into, like when he's talking about Casey, he starts doing these little effeminate motions with his shoulders to characterize Casey.
00:25:42.000 It's just great.
00:25:43.000 It's great TV.
00:25:44.000 So Trump will continue to ride high.
00:25:47.000 The other big moment of the debate,
00:25:49.000 And this truly was a big moment, is Marco Rubio finishing off Jeb Bush.
00:25:52.000 So Jeb Bush is basically, at this point, like Saul at the end of his tenure in the Bible, where he's standing on top of the hill and he's been grievously wounded from all sides, and he knows he's about to go down, and he turns to one of his spear carriers and he says, please, just finish me.
00:26:08.000 And Jeb isn't quite asking for it, but he sort of is.
00:26:10.000 And Marco Rubio finishes him.
00:26:12.000 I mean, this is the moral combat finish him moment for Marco Rubio.
00:26:16.000 Here's the problem with Jeb Bush.
00:26:17.000 Jeb Bush is a pansy masquerading as a bully.
00:26:20.000 And so we've had a couple of situations in debate where Jeb Bush, who's a spoiled rich kid, I mean, that's what he is,
00:26:25.000 I grew up with a lot of people who were spoiled rich kids.
00:26:28.000 Believe it or not, folks, for all of the accounts of my wildly rich upbringing, I grew up in a house where we had one bathroom for four kids, and I shared a room with three of my sisters, one bedroom for all four of us.
00:26:38.000 And, you know, I went to a private school where everybody had their own car, and this was a big deal to me, everybody had their own car, and the tuition was very high, and my parents were on financial aid, and all the rest of it.
00:26:48.000 So I know what it's like to grow up with people who grow up, the sons and daughters of very wealthy people.
00:26:55.000 And, you know, if you do a good job parenting, it's not a big deal.
00:26:57.000 If you do a bad job parenting, then people who are the sons and daughters of wealthy people are some of the most obnoxious people in the world, because they feel entitled to everything.
00:27:05.000 And they feel that if you ask them a legit question about anything they're doing, they don't have to deign to speak with you.
00:27:12.000 There's a sort of just entitlement complex that accrues to these folks, and it just reeks off of Jeb Bush.
00:27:17.000 When you watch Jeb Bush, it feels for everyone.
00:27:21.000 Like, he feels like it's owed him.
00:27:23.000 Like, he deserves it.
00:27:24.000 He's there.
00:27:25.000 Why are you people bothering me?
00:27:27.000 I don't know why I have to be on stage with you.
00:27:29.000 And so, the problem is that when he attacks, he expects everybody to crumble before him.
00:27:35.000 And he's already done this once and failed.
00:27:37.000 He tried to attack Donald Trump for attacking his wife.
00:27:41.000 He said to Donald Trump, I want you to apologize to my wife.
00:27:43.000 And Donald Trump looked at him with that fat lion face and said, nah.
00:27:47.000 And Jeb Bush sort of said, well,
00:27:50.000 I don't know.
00:28:05.000 The bandwagon.
00:28:05.000 Instead of doing what Ted Cruz does, which is smart, defending all the other candidates, Jeb Bush jumps on the bandwagon because he feels he has to pummel Rubio.
00:28:13.000 And it goes very, very poorly for him.
00:28:15.000 Because as I said, Rubio is a very good defensive fighter and Rubio can counterpunch.
00:28:19.000 So he's not going to get a knockout, but he'll knock you down.
00:28:21.000 And with Jeb Bush, Jeb has a glass jaw.
00:28:23.000 So you hit him once and he goes down for the count.
00:28:25.000 Here is Jeb Bush getting knocked out of the Republican presidential race by Marco Rubio.
00:28:30.000 He's a dead man walking.
00:28:31.000 He's gone.
00:28:32.000 He just doesn't know it yet.
00:28:33.000 This one's for Senator Rubio.
00:28:36.000 You've been a young man in a hurry ever since you won your first election in your 20s.
00:28:40.000 You've had a big accomplishment in the Senate, an immigration bill providing a path to citizenship that conservatives in your party hate and even you don't support anymore.
00:28:49.000 Now you're skipping more votes than any senator to run for president.
00:28:53.000 Why not slow down, get a few more things done first, or at least finish what you start?
00:28:58.000 Yeah, that's an interesting question.
00:28:59.000 That's exactly what the Republican establishment says, too.
00:29:02.000 Why don't you wait in line?
00:29:03.000 Wait for what?
00:29:04.000 This country's running out of time.
00:29:06.000 We can't afford to have another four years like the last eight years.
00:29:09.000 Watching this broadcast tonight are millions of people that are living paycheck to paycheck.
00:29:13.000 They're working as hard as they ever have.
00:29:15.000 Everything costs more, and they haven't had a raise in decades.
00:29:18.000 You have small businesses in America that are struggling.
00:29:20.000 For the first time in 35 years, we have more businesses closing than starting.
00:29:24.000 We have a world that's out of control and has grown dangerous, and a president
00:29:28.000 That is weakening our military and making our foreign policy unstable and unreliable in the eyes of our allies, and our adversaries continue to grow stronger.
00:29:35.000 They say there's no bipartisanship in Washington?
00:29:38.000 We have a $19 trillion bipartisan debt, and it continues to grow as we borrow money from countries that do not like us to pay for government we cannot afford.
00:29:47.000 The time to act is now.
00:29:49.000 The time to turn the page is now.
00:29:51.000 If we don't act now, we are going to be the first generation in American history that leaves our children worse off than ourselves.
00:29:58.000 So when the Sun Sentinel says Rubio should resign, not rip us off, when they say Floridian sent you to Washington to do a job, when they say you act like you hate your job, do you?
00:30:09.000 Yeah, let me say, I read that editorial today with a great amusement.
00:30:13.000 It's actually evidence of the bias that exists in the American media today.
00:30:16.000 But do you hate your job?
00:30:17.000 Let me answer your question on the Sun Sentinel editorial today.
00:30:21.000 Back in 2004, one of my predecessors to the Senate, by the name of Bob Graham, a Democrat, ran for president, missing over 30% of his votes.
00:30:28.000 I don't recall them calling for his resignation.
00:30:30.000 Is that the standard?
00:30:31.000 Later that year, in 2004, John Kerry ran for president, missing close to 60 to 70 percent of his votes.
00:30:36.000 I don't recall the Sun... In fact, the Sun Sentinel endorsed him.
00:30:39.000 In 2008, Barack Obama missed 60 or 70 percent of his votes, and the same newspaper endorsed him again.
00:30:45.000 So this is another example of the double standard that exists in this country between the mainstream media and the conservative media.
00:30:54.000 Now, Jeb really should stay out of this.
00:30:57.000 But he can't help himself.
00:30:58.000 Here we go.
00:30:58.000 Because I'm a constituent of the senator, and I helped him, and I expected that he would do constituent service, which means that he shows up to work.
00:31:06.000 He got endorsed by the Sun Sentinel because he was the most talented guy in the field.
00:31:10.000 He's a gifted politician.
00:31:12.000 But, Marco, when you signed up for this, this was a six-year term, and you should be showing up to work.
00:31:17.000 I mean, literally, the Senate, what is it, like a French work week?
00:31:20.000 You get, like, three days where you have to show up?
00:31:22.000 You can campaign or just resign and let someone else take the job.
00:31:26.000 There are a lot of people living paycheck to paycheck in Florida as well.
00:31:29.000 They're looking for a senator that will fight for them each and every day.
00:31:32.000 I get to respond, right?
00:31:33.000 30 seconds.
00:31:34.000 Well, it's interesting.
00:31:35.000 Over the last few weeks, I've listened to Jeb as he walked around the country and said that you're modeling your campaign after John McCain.
00:31:40.000 That you're going to launch a furious comeback the way he did, by fighting hard in New Hampshire and places like that, carrying your own bag at the airport.
00:31:48.000 You know how many votes John McCain missed when he was
00:31:50.000 ...that Fury's comeback that you're now modeling it under?
00:31:52.000 He wasn't my... Now Jeb, I don't remember... Well, let me tell you, I don't remember you ever complaining about John McCain's vote record.
00:31:58.000 The only reason why you're doing it now is because we're running for the same position and someone has convinced you that attacking me is going to help you.
00:32:03.000 I've been... Here's the bottom line, I'm not... My campaign...
00:32:06.000 Okay, so...
00:32:23.000 That's delightful and and it's it's particularly delightful because if you actually folks you really need to subscribe so you can see the faces when people say these things because when you see the shot the difference in the face of Jeb Bush between the beginning of that clip and the end of that clip he goes from the smarmy smile to oh boy I just crapped my pants
00:32:40.000 And it happens all in the space of about 45 seconds.
00:32:44.000 And of course, that's exactly right.
00:32:45.000 Jeb Bush doesn't care about Marco Rubio missing Senate votes.
00:32:49.000 No one cares about that.
00:32:50.000 Let's be real.
00:32:50.000 Most votes in the Senate are a complete waste of time.
00:32:52.000 And the major ones, Rubio's been there for.
00:32:55.000 But Jeb attacked
00:32:56.000 And he got his lights knocked out right there.
00:32:59.000 By the way, Eric Cantor, the guy who was just ousted, you remember he was the house majority whip, he was ousted in favor of Dave Brat in the primary in his own district.
00:33:08.000 He has now endorsed Jeb Bush.
00:33:09.000 That's pretty much the kiss of death.
00:33:10.000 You can say goodbye to Jeb Bush.
00:33:13.000 Final closing thoughts here because we're almost out of time.
00:33:16.000 Final thoughts on the debate.
00:33:17.000 CNBC made a mockery of itself, but that's okay.
00:33:20.000 That's good.
00:33:21.000 I like when the masks are pulled back.
00:33:22.000 I like when the curtain is pulled back and the truth is revealed.
00:33:25.000 CNBC is a hardcore leftist outlet.
00:33:27.000 We all know it now.
00:33:29.000 I also like the fact that all the Republican candidates had to respond to a hostile media because with the masks off, this is what the media are like.
00:33:36.000 And they should understand this going forward.
00:33:37.000 They're not going to make friends.
00:33:38.000 They're not going to influence people.
00:33:40.000 They have to attack the media with the same alacrity
00:33:48.000 Finally, the field is winnowing.
00:33:49.000 It's clear that the field is beginning to thin out.
00:33:52.000 Ben Carson, for all of my love for many of the things that he said over the past few weeks, did not look good.
00:33:57.000 I don't think that he has the mettle or the knowledge to stand up to the kind of presidential assault he'd be under if he were to head a general election.
00:34:04.000 Marco Rubio obviously does his homework.
00:34:06.000 Ted Cruz is constitutionally a fighter, and I don't mean U.S.
00:34:10.000 Constitution, I mean like in terms of his own constitution, he is a fighter.
00:34:14.000 And Donald Trump is a fat lion, and if you poke him hard enough, that fat lion will eat your face.
00:34:21.000 And Donald Trump continues to prove that time and time again.
00:34:25.000 This is going to come down to three candidates.
00:34:26.000 It's going to be Trump, it's going to be the anti-Trump establishment guy, Rubio, and the anti-Trump conservative guy, and that's going to be Ted Cruz.
00:34:33.000 And how it comes down at this point, anybody's guess, if I had to put money on it, I would say Rubio, although I don't like his immigration plan, that's not an endorsement of Rubio, that's just an assessment of the current political situation.
00:34:44.000 This debate may have been more helpful than some of the others in weeding out some of the chaff from the wheat.
00:34:50.000 And so thanks to CNBC for at least doing that.
00:34:53.000 And also thanks to CNBC for making complete fools of themselves.
00:34:56.000 Because anytime I can laugh at members of the mainstream media like John Harwood and Carl Quintanilla and Becky Quick, that makes me a happy camper.
00:35:04.000 It almost makes up for the fact that I had to waste four hours of my life watching all you duds on national television last night.
00:35:12.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:35:12.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.