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00:00:01.000It is indeed a Wednesday, and we are moving through the week with our usual efficiency and alacrity.
00:00:07.000And it's beginning to dawn on me that the way that the world may end is President Trump getting syphilis from a French whore and then nuking Paris, and us all dying in a retaliatory strike.
00:00:18.000Beyond those random thoughts, I have some more non-random thoughts.
00:01:28.000Donald Trump wants the exposure, he wants the headlines, and Fox News is happy to play into that and appear as though they are unbiased by bashing the Republican frontrunner.
00:01:37.000So it seems like everybody is kind of happy to play at this game.
00:01:54.000So yesterday, Donald Trump started tweeting out that he doesn't like Megyn Kelly, and he put up a poll on his Twitter saying, should I go to the Republican debate?
00:02:02.000Which is obviously a precursor to, no, I won't go to the Republican debate, right?
00:02:06.000And so Fox News released a statement, and here is the statement that Fox News released.
00:02:11.000Quote, We learned from a secret back channel that the Ayatollah and Putin both intend to treat Donald Trump unfairly when they meet with him if he becomes president.
00:02:20.000A nefarious source tells us that Trump has his own secret plan to replace the cabinet with his Twitter followers to see if he should even go to these meetings.
00:02:46.000It's a useful strategy, and he's used it many times.
00:02:48.000He's using it now with regard to Megyn Kelly, and I think it's a calculated play.
00:02:52.000I think this whole thing is a calculated play by Trump.
00:02:54.000He doesn't want to be on a stage with Ted Cruz.
00:02:56.000He's afraid he's gonna get bashed around three days before Iowa on everything from abortion to crony capitalism.
00:03:01.000And so instead what he's doing is he's picking a fight, centralizing the headlines around himself and hoping that the polls sort of freeze in place and he wins Iowa.
00:03:24.000If Fox News goes after Donald Trump, it's a win for Donald Trump.
00:03:27.000And even if Donald Trump loses Iowa, he can always blame it on Fox News and then try to win New Hampshire, where he has about a 20-point lead.
00:03:52.000If CNN were holding a debate and a Republican said, I'm not showing up because CNN is biased and CNN then said, well, you know, Vladimir Putin and the Ayatollah called and they say that they're too tough for you.
00:04:02.000If they're too tough for you, if we're too tough for you, they're too tough.
00:04:05.000I mean, if you like, like the outrage would be palpable if somebody said that to a Republican or a Democrat, the proper response is it's Donald Trump's choice whether to show up for the debate or not.
00:04:15.000He's known for months who is going to be moderating this debate.
00:04:36.000Quote, As someone who wrote one of the best-selling business books of all time, The Art of the Deal, and it's such, it's such typical Trump.
00:04:42.000I mean, the guy cannot get through three words consecutively without talking about how magnificent he is.
00:04:48.000He says, as someone who wrote one of the best-selling business books of all time, The Art of the Deal, who has built an incredible company including some of the most valuable and iconic assets in the world, and as someone who has a personal net worth of many billions of dollars, Mr. Trump knows a bad deal when he sees one.
00:05:03.000Fox News is making tens of millions of dollars on debates and setting ratings records, the highest in history, whereas in previous years they were low-rated afterthoughts.
00:05:12.000Now, I wasn't aware that Trump begrudges people their wealth.
00:05:15.000I mean, I thought that was sort of the premise of his campaign, is if you make money, you make money.
00:05:18.000But he continues, unlike the very stupid, highly incompetent people running our country into the ground, Mr. Trump knows when to walk away.
00:05:26.000Roger Ailes and Fox News think they can toy with him, but Mr. Trump doesn't play games.
00:05:30.000There have already been six debates, and according to all online debate polls, including Drudge, Slate, Time Magazine, and many others, Mr. Trump has won all of them, in particular the last one.
00:05:39.000Okay, just note, online polls are not scientific.
00:05:44.000Okay, you can have all of the Trump trolls go to drudge and stack up the votes for Trump.
00:05:48.000That doesn't mean, scientifically speaking, people thought Trump won all those debates, but that's irrelevant to Trump.
00:05:53.000Anything that says that Trump wins is a gospel truth to Donald Trump.
00:05:57.000Anything that has him losing doesn't exist.
00:05:59.000He says, whereas he has always been a job creator and not a debater, he nevertheless truly enjoys the debating process, and it has been very good for him, both in polls and popularity.
00:06:08.000He will not be participating in the Fox News debate and will instead host an event in Iowa to raise money for the veterans and wounded warriors who have been so treated so horribly by all our talk, our all talk, no action politicians.
00:06:19.000Like running for office as an extremely successful person, this takes guts and is the kind of mentality our country needs in order to make America great again.
00:06:29.000So he's touting his own guts and his own well-being.
00:06:42.000And you gotta imagine, again, Fox News at any point here can say, Mr. Trump's decision is his own decision, we plan on moving forward with the debate as planned, and that's the end of this.
00:06:51.000Instead, Fox News fires back, quote, As many of our viewers know, Fox News is hosting a sanctioned debate in Des Moines, Iowa on Thursday night, three days before the first votes of the 2016 election are cast in the Iowa caucus.
00:07:03.000Donald Trump is refusing to debate seven of his fellow presidential candidates on stage that night, which is near unprecedented.
00:07:09.000We're not sure how Iowans are going to feel about him walking away from them at the last minute, but it should be clear to the American public, by now, that this is rooted in one thing.
00:07:17.000Megyn Kelly, whom he has viciously attacked since August, and has now spent four days demanding be removed from the debate stage.
00:07:24.000Capitulating to politicians' ultimatums about a debate moderator violates all journalistic standards, as do threats, including the one leveled by Trump's campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, toward Megyn Kelly.
00:07:35.000In a call on Saturday with a Fox News executive, Lewandowski stated that Megyn, quote, had a rough couple of days after that last debate, and he would, quote, hate her to have to go through that again.
00:07:45.000Lewandowski was warned not to level any more threats, but he continued to do so.
00:07:48.000We can't give in to terrorizations toward any of our employees.
00:07:52.000Trump is still welcome at Thursday night's debate.
00:08:57.000He is on the O'Reilly Factor with Bill O'Reilly on Fox News.
00:09:01.000So he says he won't appear on the debate on Fox News, and Fox News responds by having him appear on the second highest rated host on Fox News.
00:09:10.000Now again, the ratings game is the rating game.
00:09:18.000But for Trump followers to say that this is a principled opposition by Donald Trump is just ridiculous.
00:09:25.000And for Fox News to pretend that this is principled opposition by Fox News is not quite as ridiculous, but still, like, the ratings have something to do with forwarding this fight, no?
00:11:11.000I mean, he... So, okay, a couple of things.
00:11:14.000One, Trump doing this Wounded Warriors routine.
00:11:16.000Alright, I'm gonna go and I'm gonna do an event for the Wounded Warriors, which is just his way of getting out of having to do the debate, obviously, because you can't rip him for raising money for Wounded Warriors.
00:11:41.000He could just write them a very large check, right?
00:11:43.000But no, this is... All you need to know about Donald Trump, really, in terms of his persona, is a long time ago, Donald Trump got in a fight with the, uh...
00:12:30.000I almost feel sorry for the poor fellow because to me the fingers still look abnormally stubby.
00:12:38.000Trump told the New York Post in 2011, quote, my fingers are long and beautiful as it has been well documented are various other parts of my body.
00:12:52.000It's just, this guy is gonna be the President of the United States.
00:12:57.000He laughs so you don't cry a little bit.
00:12:59.000And the people who are falling into the whole Trump is the bravest, he's a brave butterfly flying against the wind routine.
00:13:05.000Okay, Trump could, by the way, turn the debate to a win, right?
00:13:08.000He could show up at the debate and he could rip Megyn Kelly in front of everybody.
00:13:11.000But he's not going to do that, because he likes playing victim, and playing victim is a useful tactic to him, so he's going to play that forward, and Fox News is going to play this up for all it's worth, because why not?
00:13:19.000You know, you might as well make a little bit of money on the side here.
00:13:23.000And at no point does it ever enter into anybody's calculations that the voters might actually want to look at what Donald Trump has to say, but the truth is that the Donald Trump voters don't want to hear what Donald Trump has to say.
00:13:32.000The Donald Trump voters... I mean, not all of them.
00:16:37.000Why should the networks continue getting rich on these debates?
00:16:42.000Give some to the Wounded Wars, they're making a fortune.
00:16:44.000Let's see how much money Fox is going to make on the debate without me, okay?
00:16:49.000And CNN is of course over the moon about this because Trump apparently is going to hold a competing event and CNN will broadcast the competing event during the debate.
00:16:58.000All of this is, I mean, when they said bread and circuses, I didn't think that the circuses were actually going to be literal.
00:17:05.000I mean, this is the big top, and now the circus is missing its elephant, so this is just, it's amazing.
00:17:10.000Megyn Kelly has responded to Donald Trump now.
00:17:13.000She responded last night, and she played, you know, she says, Donald Trump can't control the media, and this is how the battle goes down.
00:17:20.000He says that she can't control me, I don't have to show up, and she says, well, he can't control who moderates the debates, here's Megyn Kelly.
00:17:27.000Trump is not used to not controlling things as the chief executive of a large organization.
00:17:33.000But the truth is, he doesn't get to control the media.
00:17:38.000And while he's made his position clear about me, after that first debate, Roger Ailes made his position clear too.
00:17:48.000And, you know, when Trump started it up again this past Saturday and then resumed it again and again and again and again, he was told repeatedly,
00:17:55.000Our debate team is settled, and then came that Instagram video he put out today, followed by the company statements.
00:18:04.000And of course, Megyn Kelly is right that Trump has known for months what was coming, so this is all play-fighting.
00:18:11.000Do I think that Trump actually ends up back in the debate?
00:18:13.000I think there's a 50-50 shot that Roger Ailes calls up Trump, or more importantly, that Rupert Murdoch calls up Trump, Trump claims victory, I bigfooted Fox News, and then he's back in the debate.
00:18:23.000And this circus is going to continue like this.
00:18:25.000Now, again, for the Trump fans, this is sort of glorious, because if you're a Trump fan, then what you're saying is, look at this guy, he's jacking around Fox News.
00:18:31.000I mean, this is the most powerful news network in America, and while Megyn Kelly is saying he can't control the media, the entire media is now talking about this, so clearly that's not completely true.
00:18:40.000And while Megyn Kelly is saying he can't control how Fox News operates, again, Trump is going to be on Bill O'Reilly tonight.
00:18:46.000But I really don't think this is about Megyn Kelly.
00:18:48.000I think this is about a specific strategy by Donald Trump to avoid this last debate.
00:19:09.000And that's been obvious for months, right?
00:19:10.000He could say that and it would actually be a big win for him on stage.
00:19:13.000But he isn't doing that because he doesn't want to be part of the debate.
00:19:16.000And the proof that he doesn't want to be part of the debate is that Ted Cruz was on Mark Levin's show yesterday and Ted Cruz challenged Trump.
00:19:22.000He said, fine, look, we don't have to have Megyn Kelly.
00:19:29.000And the fact that Donald is now afraid to appear on the debate stage, that he doesn't want his record questioned, I think that reflects a lack of respect for the men and women of Iowa, that he's unwilling to go to Des Moines and be questioned.
00:19:42.000And so, listen, where is Iowa right now?
00:19:45.000It is a dead heat between Donald and me.
00:19:48.000We are effectively tied, and Monday, six days from now, we'll decide, Iowa, we'll decide.
00:19:54.000And so if Donald is afraid of Megyn Kellett,
00:19:58.000I would like to invite him on your show to participate in a one-on-one debate between me and Donald, mano a mano.
00:20:15.000If he's afraid of Megyn Kelly, if he's afraid of you and afraid of Hannity and afraid of Rush, then we could do it without any moderators whatsoever.
00:20:23.000I'm happy to go an hour and a half, mano a mano, me and Donald.
00:20:27.000With no moderators, anytime before the Iowa caucuses.
00:20:32.000That's what a candidate who actually wants to work for the people, wants to earn the support of the people, will do is just stand up and defend your record.
00:20:42.000And so I would invite Donald, let's do the event.
00:20:45.000And by the way, he's been saying this past week that he thinks I'm stupid.
00:20:50.000That he should do very, very well in a debate with someone who's so stupid, away from moderators that he is so afraid of.
00:21:24.000He's afraid of the rest of the Republican field, because contrary to Donald Trump's opinion, Donald Trump at the beginning of last debate got clobbered by Ted Cruz.
00:21:32.000On the birth question, Ted Cruz just, I mean, he manhandled him.
00:22:15.000And they've almost all come to Trump Tower, which I'm honored by.
00:22:19.000But I'm only, you know, I'm doing it because I think it's important that the Republicans pick the right person.
00:22:24.000I was disappointed in Mitt because I really thought that he would go out and had courage because he was going to be talking about things that other people would not have talked about and they haven't been talking about.
00:22:39.000She said the same thing about Michelle Bachman.
00:22:41.000Also, you notice who he's talking to there?
00:22:43.000He's talking to some reporter, some crazy blonde reporter from Fox News, named Megyn Kelly.
00:22:48.000And not only that, he actually, in that same interview, he talked about Megyn Kelly, and she talked to him about who moderators for debates should be, and how that would go, and here's what Donald Trump had to say.
00:23:44.000He switches positions as is convenient.
00:23:46.000And I know there are some people who find this charming, and there are some people who think this makes for a good politician, that he's our Obama because he'll lie and he'll cheat and he'll steal to get where he wants to go.
00:23:59.000Don't assume that because Donald Trump is cheating, and because he is lying, and because he's manipulating, that he's doing that on your behalf.
00:24:06.000Donald Trump only does things on Donald Trump's behalf.
00:24:09.000Which is why he cares so deeply when people insult the stubby fingers.
00:26:19.000So there's Michael Moore complimenting Megyn Kelly, and obviously she's trying to downplay this because she doesn't want to look like she's, you know, attacking Trump.
00:26:25.000She doesn't want to look like she's on the side of the left, and there's Moore trying to give her a big, sweaty, disgusting hug, and she's just trying to kind of push him off.
00:26:35.000We're through the looking glass, folks.
00:26:36.000Meanwhile, Joe Scarborough, who hates Megyn Kelly, by the way, Joe Scarborough despises Megyn Kelly, and he said today that he would rather set himself on fire than do a debate in which he moderated next to Megyn Kelly, which is, coincidentally, I would also rather that he set himself on fire than do that.
00:26:53.000But here's Joe Scarborough on MSNBC saying this is just Donald Trump at his very best.
00:27:09.000There are people with zero that I'm going to be on the same stage with when I've got a news organization putting a press release out written by a child, which actually, that's stinging because it looked like a very childish press release.
00:27:26.000Okay, so there's Joe Scarborough in his oversized glasses straight out of 1950s comic books, and his shrinking face.
00:27:41.000And there's Joe Scarborough saying that Donald Trump is now the
00:28:03.000And the other networks are just over the moon about all of this, obviously, because it makes Fox News look bad.
00:28:08.000And Fox News, again, to be fair, Fox News participated in this whole thing when they decided to get all snarky with Trump because that's really not what you should do.
00:28:15.000I mean, there's a way to play it straight.
00:28:18.000Chris Matthews, by the way, was over the moon about this.
00:28:22.000He was saying that Fox News is going to lose viewers.
00:28:24.000And then saying things that only leftists can say and get away with.
00:28:27.000Here's Chris Matthews being a vicious racist, but no one cares because he looks like a drunken moron.
00:28:32.000Who's gonna watch a debate between the two Cuban guys?
00:28:35.000Who's gonna watch a debate between Rubio, Marco Rubio, and Ted Cruz?
00:29:21.000And just because it's fun to listen to Chris Matthews slur his words like Christopher Lloyd after a seizure, let's listen to Chris Matthews talk about the vast right-wing conspiracy to get Hillary Clinton.
00:29:32.000Hillary, you know, I think somebody's saying to your face, we'll talk about bad manners, you know, you're dishonest.
00:29:52.000She has to go back to the motives of those who have raised the questions about her honesty, which is unfortunately for her very much like what she said back
00:30:00.000During the Monica days when she said there's a vast right-wing conspiracy out to get me.
00:30:31.000Chris Matthews doing his damnedest to stand up for Hillary Clinton.
00:30:36.000Yes, folks, this is your political landscape.
00:30:39.000Three days before America begins to decide who will be the next president of the United States, and just a scary capper before we get to things I like.
00:30:47.000The scariest thing of the day was not Donald Trump, and it wasn't Chris Matthews being a racist, and it wasn't Joe Scarborough and his tiny face, and it wasn't Michael Moore looking like Tootles.
00:31:37.000This is why presidential elections actually matter.
00:31:39.000Putting aside all this fun and games, we are one Supreme Court justice away from basically the entire Constitution being burned by the Supreme Court.
00:31:47.000If Barack Obama were that fifth justice, say goodbye to the First Amendment, Second Amendment, Fourth Amendment, they would all go away immediately.
00:31:54.000Scary stuff, but the good news is we can at least be entertained by Donald Trump having kabuki theater fights with Fox News.
00:32:00.000And, uh, and writing letters to press outlets about his stubby fingers.
00:32:15.000Um, I'm looking for, I heard Clayton rave The Revenant yesterday, so I'm gonna have to go see that, but Spotlight was a very good movie, and it's a good reminder, it's a good reminder, Spotlight is, that
00:32:25.000When you live inside any system, the temptation is to defend the system at all costs.
00:32:31.000The temptation is to defend the system even if the system does evil things.
00:32:36.000And we have to recognize that morality as applied to individuals is more important than the survival of any institution.
00:32:42.000And that's not just the Catholic Church, obviously.
00:32:44.000There have been molestation incidents inside Jewish communities and Muslim communities.
00:33:07.000I don't know if you've been following this story.
00:33:08.000We talked about it a while back on the program.
00:33:10.000The story of Stephen and Dwight Hammond.
00:33:11.000They were the farmers up in Oregon, the ranchers up in Oregon, who ended up being jailed after the government wanted to take their land, basically.
00:33:18.000So, to refresh your memory, Stephen and Dwight Hammond, they're a family, they live up in Oregon, and they own a big chunk of property.
00:33:24.000And they wanted to feed their cattle outside their land.
00:33:28.000And that typically had been legal, but the federal government gradually cut back their water supply, gradually cut back their grazing rights, and really cut their profit margin out from under them.
00:33:38.000Well, it was clear the government wanted to take their land.
00:33:40.000They were trying to force them out of their own land, the Bureau of Land Management.
00:33:44.000And there was an incident in which the Hammonds back-burned their own farm in order to prevent a wildfire from jumping onto their farm.
00:33:52.000They burned a little bit of federal property, and the feds prosecuted them under anti-terror laws and put them in jail.
00:33:58.000And when the judge lessened the sentence, the feds came back and forced an appeals court to reinstate the longer five-year sentence.
00:34:05.000So, a bunch of people, including the Bundys, the Bundys had a similar situation in Nevada.
00:34:10.000A couple of the Bundys' sons, Ryan Bundy and Ammon Bundy, they went up to Oregon and they took over a small federal house.
00:34:18.000Like, it was an abandoned federal house in the middle of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.
00:34:22.000And they're just sitting there, they weren't doing anything, nothing bad was happening.
00:34:25.000Well, last night, yesterday, things went bad.
00:34:29.000The way they went bad, according to NBC News, quote,
00:34:32.000Officials had been waiting for an opportunity to arrest the group's leadership away from the refuge to minimize the potential for violence, a senior law enforcement official told NBC News.
00:34:41.000So, nine activists were traveling in two vehicles 45 miles outside of the refuge when the FBI and Oregon State Police pulled them over, according to the officials.
00:34:49.000Some tried to get away and there was gunfire.
00:34:52.000In Arizona, rancher LaVoy Finnicum, 54, was killed in the shooting, his daughter told NBC News.
00:35:33.000They were doing all this to get the Hammonds released from prison and they weren't unjustly imprisoned.
00:35:37.000So as I said at the time, there is a danger to this tactic which is that the feds would get aggressive and somebody would get killed.
00:35:42.000As I also said at the time, this is a case study in why we have to be extraordinarily careful in greenlighting regulations and laws because at the end of every regulation and every law is the possibility you're going to have to let the government murder somebody or kill somebody or execute somebody or shoot somebody justifiably in self-defense
00:36:02.000So before you pass a law about selling loose cigarettes on the street, you may want to remember that at some point if somebody is selling loose cigarettes and refuses to abide by police orders, he could get choked out and he could die.
00:36:13.000That was Eric Garner in New York City.
00:36:42.000So what happened is the Feds lured them out of the refuge.
00:36:45.000They said, we're gonna meet you out here, and then like Sonny on the causeway, they then pulled them over, the FBI, because they were looking for an excuse to do so.
00:36:54.000Finnecom told the Oregonian, literally the day before he was shot, quote, the tenor has changed, law enforcement have become more hardened, they're doing all the things that show they want to take some kinetic action against us, and we're saying, why be so unfriendly?
00:37:07.000So, here are some questions that we don't know.
00:37:09.000We don't know who initiated the shooting, still.
00:37:10.000We haven't seen any tape, so... People are... His family is saying it was hands up, don't shoot.
00:37:15.000I'm skeptical of that, because I'm always skeptical law enforcement just guns people down in cold blood.
00:37:28.000We don't know whether the Feds plan to arm up and precipitate a conflict, because that's what Finnicombe was suggesting.
00:37:32.000Finnicombe was suggesting the day in advance.
00:37:35.000And most of all, I still don't know why somebody has to die so that the government can prove that wrongfully imprisoned farmers that Feds want to push off their land have to stay in jail.
00:37:44.000I don't see why that is something that's worthwhile.
00:37:46.000You have the President of the United States justifying riots in Baltimore and Ferguson for no reason, at which nobody, by the way, was killed by police.
00:37:53.000You have the federal government greenlighting that, but a couple of people take over an abandoned building in the middle of nowhere, and somebody has to get shot over that to prove that somebody who's wrongfully imprisoned should remain in prison.
00:38:14.000The Constitution of the United States is not actually a hopeful document.
00:38:19.000The Declaration of Independence is a hopeful document.
00:38:21.000The Constitution of the United States is not a hopeful document.
00:38:25.000The Constitution of the United States is a good description of how human beings work.
00:38:29.000And so when the Constitution says you want to avoid people getting shot, you want to avoid people getting killed, you want to avoid conflict, a small government is the only way to do that.
00:38:37.000The founders meant it, and the founders knew it.
00:38:39.000And as government grows, this kind of friction is going to grow, because what happens next time there's a baker in Oregon who refuses to cater a same-sex wedding, and they fine him 140 grand, and he says no, and they come to put him in jail, and he says, I have a gun.
00:38:54.000Are we willing to shoot somebody for not catering a gay wedding?
00:38:58.000Is that how this is going to work now?
00:38:59.000Because this is how fascism starts, folks.
00:39:02.000Fascism starts with bad regulations enforced by the government at point of gun.
00:39:06.000Government is basically a giant use of force.
00:40:47.000You really think that you're gonna get people to stop eating meat because they quote-unquote go longer in bed because they have more stamina?
00:40:55.000First of all, I'm gonna say this isn't- I'm just gonna put this out there, okay?
00:40:58.000Inappropriate for children, so lower your volume or pause it here until the kids are out of the room.
00:41:02.000Okay, it's time for some frank adult discussion here on The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:41:06.000Hey, the whole idea of men's stamina is a media-created myth.
00:41:11.000What I mean by that is that there is no woman in the world who wants a man going at it with her in the fashion you're seeing in this video for, like, eight hours.
00:41:29.000Okay, the reality is the average time for sex for pretty much everybody is somewhere between five and ten minutes.
00:41:33.000That's the average time for pretty much everybody, and it could be shorter, it could be longer, but there are very few women in the world who are like, oh my god, I was just desperate to jackhammer this thing for three hours.
00:42:17.000And the reason for this is, quote, because it is less risky than actually having sex.
00:42:20.000The study is called the Porn Phenomenon.
00:42:22.000It says for those age 51 to 69, safety is the fourth highest reason why they watch porn.
00:42:29.000It is one of the key reasons teens age 13 to 17 use pornography.
00:42:33.000The study from the Barna Group says being less risky than actual sex is higher motivation among both teens and older adults for different reasons, presumably.
00:42:41.000Okay, so all these people are not having sex because
00:42:45.000They are deeply concerned that they are going to have some sort of health problem or get pregnant or something along those lines.
00:42:54.000The fact that our society has solved the problem that they created with staring at naked people and disembodied voices
00:43:03.000This is a society that has created its own death.
00:43:07.000I mean, the fact is, we had a pretty good system for restricting the whole dangerous sex routine.
00:43:15.000You know, when people did this whole routine where they didn't have sex outside marriage, and they got married kind of young, and then they had sex with that person for the rest of their lives.
00:43:26.000And it is zero because my wife was a virgin when we got married, and I was a virgin when we got married, and we plan on and have already only had sex with each other, and we plan on doing this forever.
00:43:43.000Marriage was a way of making sex safe.
00:43:46.000Because sex always carries with it risk, just like any other human behavior.
00:43:49.000If you're doing it with someone you trust, particularly for women, I mean, this idea that promiscuous sex has been good for women is such a lie.
00:43:55.000If there's anybody who's put at risk by promiscuous sex, it's not men, it's women.
00:43:59.000Okay, because women who are having promiscuous sex are significantly more likely to be abused by a man, they're significantly more likely to be mistreated, harassed, or raped by a man.
00:44:09.000Okay, the fact is, I know that my wife, you know, barring some sort of
00:44:21.000Marriage was the bar against the risks of sex.
00:44:24.000Now, watching people do it in a PETA commercial is the bar against having the risk for sex.
00:44:29.000Which, of course, means that you're really deadening your soul and deadening your connection with other human beings, specifically in order to avoid the risk that accompanies sex.
00:44:44.000If you want a better life, if you want a more fulfilled life, you might try some of those archaic, patriarchal, terrible old standards where people were actually happy with each other and happy having sexual relations with each other within prescribed societal confines.
00:45:01.000And the reason that I'm saying this is because I want everybody to have the kind of happiness in both the boudoir and in life that I have, thank God, despite the fact that I come here and pour out my grievances against the world every day.
00:45:13.000The fact is that off the air, I'm actually a pretty happy guy.
00:45:15.000When I go home, that's when I get to be happy.
00:45:17.000The rest of my life, I have to be unhappy because when you follow the political scene, there's no way not to be happy, although you can laugh hysterically at what's going on.
00:45:25.000But the fact is, if you want to lead a happy life,
00:45:28.000God's law is pretty good at getting you there.
00:45:33.000These things are pretty good at getting you there.
00:45:34.000The substitutes that we create for ourselves, technological or otherwise, pictures of people having sex, pictures of people running, that's not going to replace having a fulfilling marital relationship with your spouse in time, hopefully, you're blessed with kids.
00:45:48.000I mean, honestly, I couldn't be happier in my life.
00:45:51.000And I want everybody to have that as well.
00:45:54.000And that means get away from the porn and get back to the Bible.