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00:00:00.000President Trump dumps his Secretary of Homeland Security, Democrats compete to shore up their woke credentials, and the Israeli election is in the homestretch.
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00:02:28.000I sort of feel bad for Christian Nielsen because she did the best that she could with a policy and an administration that is really divided on immigration.
00:02:36.000President Trump wants to be incredibly harsh on the border, but then every time there's a bad story on the border, he immediately shies away from the bad story on the border.
00:02:43.000And that puts people like Christian Nielsen in a really difficult position.
00:02:46.000Because he'll say to her, OK, I want a zero-tolerance approach on the border.
00:02:49.000And she'll say, all right, well, you know what that means?
00:02:51.000That means we're going to arrest people.
00:02:52.000And under current law, that means we then have to release the kids to family members because we can't actually keep the kids in custody under a Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruling.
00:03:00.000We're just not allowed to do that under the Flores settlement.
00:03:03.000And so President Trump will be like, OK, do it.
00:03:17.000And then there's catch and release for a while.
00:03:18.000And then there's a bunch of blowback from the right saying, why are we just picking these people up at the border and then releasing them to the interior?
00:03:25.000And then Trump's like, well, I don't like that either.
00:03:35.000There are real problems with border law in the sense that right now under the Flora settlement, if you arrest a family that is coming across the border, you cannot hold the kids in custody with the parents.
00:03:44.000And that means that you have to release the parents or you have to separate the parents from the kids.
00:03:48.000That is a problem that is currently implicit in the law.
00:04:26.000Congress has not allocated the funding.
00:04:28.000And that means that they have no choice but to catch and release.
00:04:31.000Well, President Trump is not famous for the buck stopping at his desk.
00:04:35.000Usually the buck stops at everyone else's desk.
00:04:37.000It's one of the really negative parts about this White House is that if you work for Trump, there is a very good shot that you get stabbed in the back at some point.
00:04:45.000I mean, not to put too fine a point on it, but the reality is working in this White House is a very difficult job.
00:04:51.000It is one where the press will try to savage you.
00:04:54.000Kirstjen Nielsen's on her way out now.
00:04:56.000There are already members of the press saying she should never be hired again because she worked as Secretary of Homeland Security under Donald Trump.
00:05:02.000And any corporation that hires her is going to be subjected to the rage of the mainstream media.
00:05:08.000People were tweeting this out yesterday, that basically her life should be ruined.
00:05:11.000You've heard them say the same about people like Sarah Huckabee Sanders, that after Huckabee Sanders leaves the administration at some point, or if the administration comes to an end, then she should be forbidden from working in the public sector.
00:05:23.000You see the same thing with people who used to work for President Trump, like Sean Spicer.
00:05:27.000Once they are out, then they are persona non grata.
00:05:29.000among the general public, and the media don't want them anywhere near anything that even remotely approaches power in the private sector.
00:05:37.000So it is unrewarding to work there, because the president is very likely to blame you for stuff that he himself is responsible for, because he has no coherent policy.
00:05:44.000And second, when you are ousted, then you don't- it's not like you get the gratitude of a nation for having served your country.
00:05:50.000Instead it turns into, you served that bad guy Trump, we're going to make sure you never work again in this town.
00:05:56.000So you got to feel a little bit bad for Christian Nielsen, even if you don't like how she has performed as Secretary of Homeland Security.
00:06:01.000And again, I fail to see how she has wildly underperformed as Secretary of Homeland Security, like what she could have done that should have been done extraordinarily differently without President Trump's approval.
00:06:13.000The New York Times reports Christian Nielsen, the Homeland Security Secretary, resigned on Sunday after meeting with President Trump, ending a tumultuous tenure in charge of the border security agency that had made her the target of the president's criticism.
00:06:24.000I've determined that it is the right time for me to step aside, Nielsen said in a resignation letter.
00:06:28.000I hope that the next secretary will have the support of Congress and the courts in fixing the laws.
00:06:33.000Which have impeded our ability to fully secure America's borders and which have contributed to discord in our nation's discourse.
00:06:38.000Nielsen had requested the meeting to plan a way forward at the border, in part thinking she could have a reasoned conversation with Trump about the role, according to three people familiar with the meeting.
00:06:46.000She came prepared with a list of things that needed to change to improve the relationship with the president.
00:06:51.000Trump in recent weeks had asked Nielsen to close the ports of entry along the border and to stop accepting asylum seekers, which Nielsen found ineffective and inappropriate.
00:07:00.000And again, I'm not sure that she is wrong about this.
00:07:01.000Closing the ports of entry along the border was specifically designed, presumably, to reshift resources, to allocate resources from the ports of entry to the areas between the ports of entry where 90% of people are trying to cross.
00:07:14.000But the issue there, Nielsen was saying, is when people cross the border, the vast majority of them are looking for border patrol agents to turn themselves into So stop accepting asylum seekers means that you will actually be encouraging people to avoid border patrol agents and they will simply continue crossing because there's a shortage of the border and they won't turn themselves in to border patrol agents, which means no ankle monitors, no keeping track of them.
00:07:37.000And if you close the ports of entry, it is difficult to do that and still maintain open commerce.
00:07:42.000You could do it theoretically, but practically speaking, apparently this is quite difficult.
00:07:47.000While the 30-minute meeting was cordial, Trump was determined to ask for her resignation.
00:07:52.000The move came just two days after Trump, who has repeatedly expressed anger at a rise in migrants at the southern border, withdrew his nominee to run Immigration and Customs Enforcement because he wanted the agency to go in a tougher direction.
00:08:03.000Trump has ratcheted up his anti-immigration message in recent months as he seeks to galvanize supporters before the 2020 election, shutting down the government and then declaring a national emergency to secure funding to build a border wall, cutting aid to Central American countries, and repeatedly denouncing what he believes is a crisis of migrants trying to enter the country.
00:08:20.000He tweeted on Sunday night after Nielsen departed.
00:08:23.000He tweeted, quote, Which is, in fact, a different message than the message that he was saying in February, where he suggested that we wanted to have wide doors for immigration, right?
00:08:33.000It was going to be a big wall with big doors, is the way that he put it.
00:08:38.000Nielsen said she planned to stay on as secretary through Wednesday in order to assist with an orderly transition.
00:08:42.000The abruptness was unusual because DHS does not have a deputy secretary who would normally take the reins.
00:08:47.000The president said in a tweet that Kevin McAleenan, the commissioner of Customs and Border Protection, would take over as acting replacement for Nielsen.
00:08:53.000By law, the undersecretary for management, Claire Grady, is next in line to be acting secretary.
00:08:58.000The White House would have to fire her to make Mr. McAleenan acting secretary.
00:09:01.000People familiar with the transition said Grady says that she has no intention Some of the people who are being looked at for DHS include Ken Cuccinelli, the former Virginia Attorney General, who fits the profile, apparently, and Nielsen has been pressured by Trump to be more aggressive in stemming the influx of migrant crossings at the border.
00:09:19.000Her entire time in the job was spent battling back suspicion from the president, even as he told people how he liked how she performed on television and enjoyed dealing with her personally.
00:09:28.000Apparently, he was skeptical of her because she had served under W, and also because she was close to John Kelly, who Trump Basically got rid of that former chief of staff.
00:09:37.000The president called Nielsen at home early in the morning to demand that she take action to stop migrants from entering the country, including doing things that were clearly illegal, such as blocking all migrants from seeking asylum, which you cannot do.
00:09:47.000But if somebody crosses the border and they find a border patrol agent, they do have the legal ability to seek asylum.
00:09:52.000You can't just say, sorry, didn't hear you.
00:09:57.000You can't really do that to people who are crossing the border and seeking asylum.
00:10:01.000Nor, frankly, do we want that because there are people legitimately seeking political asylum in the United States.
00:10:06.000It is a long entrenched part of both our law and culture that people who are seeking political asylum should at least be heard out.
00:10:12.000She repeatedly noted limitations imposed on her department by federal laws, court settlements, and international obligations.
00:10:17.000Apparently this really pissed off Trump.
00:10:19.000The president's fury erupted in the spring of 2018 as Nielsen hesitated for weeks about whether to sign a memo ordering the routine separation of migrant children from their families so that the parents could be detained.
00:10:29.000And again, she was hesitating because Trump was hesitating.
00:10:32.000If you don't recall at the time, it wasn't like Trump was full-scale go.
00:10:36.000Trump puts his people out there very often, and then he lets them take the bullet.
00:10:40.000And it's not just Secretary of Homeland Security.
00:10:42.000He did this to his own Secretary of Education, Betsy DeVos, just in the last couple of weeks.
00:10:47.000He pushed a budget that included in it a defunding of the Special Olympics.
00:10:51.000And Betsy DeVos dutifully did what she was supposed to do.
00:10:53.000She went out there and she defended the budget, cutting money for the Special Olympics.
00:10:57.000And then Trump decided on the spur of the moment, he didn't like the media coverage, and he went out publicly and said, you know what?
00:11:02.000We're putting that back in, funding for the Special Olympics.
00:11:04.000And there is Betsy DeVos left out there on the end of the branch and Trump grinning and sawing off the branch behind her.
00:11:10.000It's very difficult to work for this president.
00:11:13.000In a cabinet meeting surrounded by her peers, Trump castigated her repeatedly, leading her to draft a resignation letter and to tell colleagues there was no reason for her to lead the department any longer.
00:11:21.000By the end of the week, she had reconsidered it and remained in her position, becoming an increasingly fierce supporter of his policies, including the family separations.
00:11:29.000And again, that's her reflecting the boss.
00:11:31.000Trump was split, and then Trump said, I'm not split anymore.
00:11:33.000And she said, OK, well, if that's your policy, that's your policy.
00:11:36.000Apparently, Trump and Stephen Miller, the president's top immigration advisor, have privately but regularly complained about Nielsen.
00:11:43.000Lou Dobbs has also encouraged Trump's negative view of her handling of the migrant crisis, according to The New York Times.
00:11:49.000Nielsen lost a powerful protector when John Kelly, her mentor, was fired at the beginning of the year.
00:11:53.000Multiple White House officials said she had grown deeply paranoid in recent months after numerous stories about her job being on the line.
00:11:59.000She had also supported the ICE nominee, Ronald Vitiello, that Trump just withdrew.
00:12:07.000Apparently, in early 2019, as the number of migrant families from Central American countries surged, the president's fury at Ms.
00:12:13.000He repeatedly demanded she cut off foreign aid to Central American countries, though the funding was the responsibility of the State Department, and she deflected his demands because she doesn't have the power to do that.
00:12:22.000One day after Nielsen traveled to Honduras to sign a regional compact with officials from Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador, Trump cut State Department funding for the countries.
00:12:29.000In recent days, the president made public moves to undercut her authority, leaking news he might nominate an immigration czar to assume oversight of the issue at the heart of Nielsen's department.
00:12:39.000Now, the media is trying to suggest that Nielsen had some sort of real difference of mind with President Trump.
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00:14:12.000One of the reasons he appointed Jeff Sessions is because Jeff Sessions was tough on crime, he was tough on drugs, he was tough on illegal immigration.
00:14:19.000And then Trump decided he didn't like him.
00:14:21.000And then instead of capping him, he kept him around for a couple of years.
00:14:23.000And then he let Sessions quietly sort of resign, sort of quit, sort of be fired.
00:14:33.000Well, when you are the leader of a company or a country, when you're the leader of an administration, which effectively is just a company, the buck stops with you.
00:14:41.000That means you have to make the decisions about whether people are doing their jobs or not.
00:14:45.000And if you are randomly shifting, if you're driving, if you're careening all over the road like Beto O'Rourke on an off night, Then it's going to be very difficult for the people in the back of the car to take credit for what exactly is going on.
00:14:56.000Trump's the guy with his hand on the steering wheel, not Kirstjen Nielsen.
00:14:59.000So if you don't like the policy, that one stops at the top.
00:15:02.000Apparently, Nielsen never learned how to manage Trump, people familiar with their discussion said.
00:15:16.000And sometimes that's okay, because people around him are able to mitigate his harder edges, and they're able to boost the stuff about him that's good.
00:15:23.000But it means that he is in constant conflict with the people around him.
00:15:26.000He's like a billiard ball, just moving around that table.
00:15:29.000Apparently Jared Kushner didn't like Nielsen.
00:15:31.000That came to a head recently as Kushner had inserted himself into the immigration discussions.
00:15:35.000Now, that's kind of odd because Kushner is not a hardliner when it comes to immigration.
00:15:39.000Kushner is much softer on illegal immigration.
00:15:41.000Remember, Kushner is also the guy behind the First Step Act.
00:15:44.000So the fact is that if you really believe that Nielsen was ousted for being too soft on immigration, what does Kushner have to do with anything?
00:15:52.000Trump often blamed Nielsen for the surge in migrant crossings, but the truth is that the widespread perception of her is that she was very harsh on illegal immigration.
00:16:01.000And that's going to be the perception of her after she leaves.
00:16:11.000She said, Mr. President, I hereby resign from the position of Secretary of the U.S.
00:16:15.000Department of Homeland Security, effective April 7, 2019.
00:16:19.000It has been my great honor to lead the men and women of the department as its sixth secretary.
00:16:23.000I could not be prouder of and more humbled by their service, dedication, and commitment to keep our country safe from all threats and hazards.
00:16:28.000I join all Americans in thanking them for their sacrifices and those of their families.
00:16:33.000I am immensely proud of our successes in transforming DHS to keep pace with our enemies and adversaries, whether it is in cyberspace or against emerging threats from new technologies.
00:16:42.000Despite our progress in reforming Homeland Security for a new age, I have determined that it is the right time for me to step aside.
00:16:48.000I hope the next Secretary will have the full support of Congress and the courts in fixing the laws Which have impeded our ability to fully secure America's borders and which have contributed to discord in our nation's discourse.
00:16:57.000Our country and the men and women of DHS deserve to have all the tools and resources they need to execute the mission entrusted to them.
00:17:03.000I can say with confidence our homeland is safer today than when I joined the administration.
00:17:06.000We've taken unprecedented action to protect Americans.
00:17:09.000We've implemented historic efforts to defend our border, combat illegal immigration, obstruct the inflow of drugs, and uphold our laws and values.
00:17:15.000We've responded decisively to record-breaking natural disasters and helped Americans rebuild.
00:17:20.000And she concludes, Thank you again for the privilege to serve the American people and to lead the outstanding men and women of the Department of Homeland Security.
00:17:26.000Supporting these patriots has been the honor of a lifetime.
00:17:44.000There are not the resources at the border necessary, and that is partly due to the media coverage of these issues.
00:17:48.000It was the media that declared, for months on end, there was no crisis at the border, then the government shutdown ends, and suddenly there's a crisis at the border.
00:17:55.000The media paid very little attention when Barack Obama was implementing family separations, and then when Trump did it, suddenly it was Trump's fault, when the reality is it's the Flores Settlement and the Ninth Circuit's fault.
00:18:06.000All of this is media malfeasance, and Kirstjen Nielsen has very little to do with this.
00:18:13.000And I think she was a functionary trying to do the best that she could.
00:18:16.000And I think that she was ousted because the best that she could apparently wasn't good enough.
00:18:20.000But I failed to see where she was impeding Trump's agenda in any serious way, where Trump said, do X. And she said, I'm not doing X. And so he said, OK, you're fired.
00:18:36.000Beyond sort of the broad outlines of what he wants, how he wants to implement, and he's not willing to take the hit when the bad press comes in.
00:18:44.000Now, again, I think this is aided and abetted by a media that wished to polarize a debate that really should not be polarized.
00:18:50.000We should all be on the same side of this immigration debate.
00:18:52.000We want to make sure that the people who are coming here are both treated humanely and deported if they do not have a legal claim to be here.
00:18:58.000And that should be done expeditiously.
00:19:00.000Families should not be separated in that process.
00:19:02.000I think we all have the same basic priorities on all of this, but the way the media have played this, Has led to the polarization of an issue which really should not be polarized.
00:19:12.000I think there is broad American consensus that we do not want an open border.
00:19:16.000I think there is broad American consensus that an open border is a bad idea.
00:19:21.000And despite the more woke members of the Democratic Party, I think even mainstream Democrats are not interested in an open border.
00:19:29.000I mean, Bernie Sanders is basically saying this, right?
00:19:31.000Bernie Sanders is, believe it or not, one of the saner Democrats on the issue of the border.
00:19:35.000Here's the Socialist Senator from Vermont and current frontrunner for the Democratic nomination saying, you can't have open borders, guys.
00:19:42.000How would you deal with the social services connected with opening the borders, such as health care, medical care, and— Who do you think is suggesting opening the borders?
00:19:52.000Well, you're an activist for opening— No, I'm not.
00:19:54.000I'm afraid you may be getting your information wrong.
00:20:00.000I think what we need is comprehensive immigration reform.
00:20:03.000That is not simply, you're quite right.
00:20:06.000If your point is you open the borders, my God, you know, there's a lot of poverty in this world, and you're going to have people from all over the world.
00:20:13.000And I don't think that's something that we can do at this point.
00:20:18.000Okay, so again, that is Bernie being reasonable.
00:20:21.000We're all basically on the same page here, but the media have deliberately gone out of their way to make sure that we are not on the same page.
00:21:19.000And it led people like Pete Buttigieg, the mayor of South Bend, who's getting his kind of current media bump, to tweet out, you do not refer to human beings as animals.
00:22:04.000Okay, I'm sorry, MS-13, their actual motto is, what, rape, kidnap, kill?
00:22:10.000I mean, they legitimately are evil human beings.
00:22:13.000And this was taken out of context deliberately to make it look like Trump was dehumanizing people, normal people who are coming across that border, families coming across the border.
00:22:22.000And the problem is that Trump then reacts to that sort of slander by, in knee-jerk fashion, knocking off his own officials.
00:22:28.000There is a way for President Trump to deal with these accusations.
00:22:31.000There's a way for President Trump to weaponize this issue, but he is not doing it properly.
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00:24:23.000If you do not give me the resources that I need, I have no choice.
00:24:27.000But to implement certain policies such as we are going to be we are going to be using the resources that are necessary to us to hold families together.
00:24:40.000And if the court and if the court tries to intervene, that's just the way that it's going to be.
00:25:24.000I'm going to go down and I'm going to visit with the kids of the parents.
00:25:26.000I want to make sure that they are taken care of.
00:25:29.000I'm going to go down there and I'm going to stand on the border every day and make this into an issue.
00:25:33.000I'm going to campaign on the fact that there is a crisis at the southern border and they won't give us funding.
00:25:37.000But instead, because President Trump doesn't, he's not willing to weather some bad headlines and then use those bad headlines as evidence that the Democrats don't know what they're doing and are actively obstructing policies that help the United States.
00:25:49.000Instead, we end up with this internecine warfare inside the administration, which again, I don't know what he thinks Chris Kobach is going to do if he were suddenly the head of DHS.
00:25:57.000I don't know what he thinks Stephen Miller can do that Christian Nielsen couldn't.
00:26:01.000I guess now they are discussing the possibility of renewed child separation policies.
00:26:05.000According to NBC News, Trump has for months urged his administration to reinstate large-scale separation of migrant families crossing the border.
00:26:12.000Trump's outgoing Homeland Security Secretary Christian Nielsen resisted.
00:26:16.000And the reason she resisted, presumably, is because last time this happened, Trump turned on his own people and said, why are we doing all of this?
00:26:22.000According to two of the sources, Nielsen told Trump that federal court orders prohibited the Department of Homeland Security from reinstating the policy and that he would be reversing his own executive order from June that ended family separation.
00:26:45.000But if he's just all over the place, all he's doing is demonstrating a chaotic approach to an issue and letting the Democrats off the hook.
00:26:51.000Because this one really is on the Democrats.
00:26:53.000We could solve this thing if we changed the law and provided the funding necessary to Border Patrol.
00:27:10.000I'm not sure whether she actually intends to or whether she's just going to sit out there lobbying for a VP slot.
00:27:16.000It's pretty amazing for a woman who legitimately lost a race in Georgia, and her highest office has been the Georgia House of Representatives, to think so highly of herself that she thinks she can run for president and win.
00:27:27.000Now she's out there in public saying on MSNBC that Georgia's abortion law, which protects babies in the womb after a heartbeat is detected, she's saying that abortion law is evil.
00:27:36.000That's how extreme the Democrats are on these issues.
00:27:38.000I think Georgia has to realize that while we are enjoying an extraordinary boom in the film industry, there is nothing that says it has to stay here.
00:27:46.000And we have to be a state that is not only friendly to business, we've got to be friendly to the women who work in these businesses.
00:27:52.000You should not have to worry about your ability to control your bodily economy because the governor has pushed such an abominable and evil bill that is so restrictive.
00:28:02.000It's not only bad for morality and our humanity, it's bad for business.
00:28:24.000And Bernie comes out over the weekend and he says, you know what?
00:28:27.000It shouldn't just be that if you are a prior criminal and you have cleared your record, that now you should be able to Vote again, you've done your time, now you get to vote again.
00:28:38.000Bernie says felons should be able to vote while they are in prison.
00:30:13.000Even the so-called moderates in the Democratic Party are not, in fact, moderates.
00:30:16.000Tim Ryan, who is a congressperson from Ohio, from an extraordinarily blue-collar district, he should be running on the principle that he's going to be a pragmatist and a centrist and he's going to be able to bring everybody together in the name of blue-collar folks everywhere.
00:30:29.000Instead, he's out there mirroring the Bernie Sanders' Medicare-for-all routine.
00:30:33.000I've been a supporter of single-payer, but I think if we can get it done— But you also support the Affordable Care Act.
00:30:38.000I did, because that was moving the ball down the field.
00:30:41.000That was providing more health care for more people, making it more affordable.
00:30:49.000Well, when you're sitting there negotiating, I can't negotiate with you right now with the House and the Senate and the White House, but I want more people to have more affordable coverage.
00:30:57.000I want there to be some kind of public option where middle class people who work hard and pay by the rules can get some help so they're not getting squeezed by the pharmaceutical companies and the healthcare companies.
00:31:09.000I do love that Tim Ryan is now openly admitting it.
00:31:11.000I'm old enough to remember when the proponents of Obamacare said, no, this isn't the first step toward nationalized healthcare.
00:31:17.000And we were like, yeah, you guys are lying.
00:31:19.000Well, it turns out they were lying, and now they're sort of admitting that they were lying.
00:31:22.000Now, I will say that the worst statement of the weekend was not even made by Bernie Sanders, who says felons should be able to vote while they are in prison.
00:31:28.000Or Stacey Abrams, who says that abortion laws that protect the unborn are evil.
00:31:33.000The worst statement of the weekend in its own way was Pete Buttigieg, the mayor of South Bend, who I've found to be an interesting candidate with interesting ideas.
00:31:40.000We've invited him on the Sunday special.
00:31:42.000He initially expressed interest, and then he started to gain in the polls, and now it's like, well, I won't touch people across the aisle with a 10-foot pole.
00:31:48.000In any case, I have to show you what Pete Buttigieg said, because it is a polarizing statement that I think will be largely ignored.
00:33:11.000We are the largest, fastest growing conservative podcast and radio show in the nation.
00:33:15.000Well, as with immigration, there's a tendency right now in politics to generate false polarization that doesn't really exist based on castigation of people's characters.
00:33:31.000So, President Trump is obviously an evil man because he wants to shut down the border.
00:33:35.000This is the perspective of the left, that he doesn't want illegal immigration.
00:33:38.000This means he's mean and cruel and terrible.
00:33:39.000Whereas Barack Obama was wonderful and open-minded when he was keeping kids in cages.
00:33:43.000As folks on the left like to say about President Trump.
00:33:46.000Well, Pete Buttigieg has been a more attractive candidate than a lot of the Democratic candidates, specifically because he hasn't done this.
00:33:53.000Because he has suggested that people in the middle of the country who don't buy into the far-left agenda may not be monsters.
00:33:58.000Because he has said, yeah, you know what?
00:33:59.000I disagree with the founder of Chick-fil-A, but I'll still eat their chicken.
00:34:02.000And that was like the most sane thing anyone has said in this entire presidential election cycle.
00:34:06.000Well, he basically threw that over yesterday.
00:34:09.000He was talking about evangelical Christians and he said, any evangelical Christian who votes for Trump is violating their religion, which is somewhat rich coming from a guy who believes in abortion until point of birth.
00:34:20.000This is somebody who believes in the idea that a man is not a man and a woman is not a woman.
00:34:24.000He believes in the sort of transgender rights agenda.
00:34:28.000Buttigieg is not exactly famous for believing in traditional Judeo-Christian moral standards when it comes to things like abortion.
00:34:36.000Here he was talking about his own life and after castigating evangelicals as being bad Christians, which he's been doing the last couple of weeks, he then suggests that evangelicals have an outsized hatred of Buttigieg because he's gay, which is absurd.
00:34:50.000I've seen none of this from the right, like legitimately none.
00:34:52.000But here he is going after Mike Pence and attributing motives to Mike Pence that do not exist.
00:34:55.000I want to talk about this for a second because I think it's important.
00:34:58.000When I was younger, I would have done anything to not be gay.
00:35:02.000If you had offered me a pill to make me straight, I would have swallowed it before you had time to give me a sip of water.
00:35:09.000The thing I wish the Mike Pence's of the world would understand, that if you've got a problem with who I am, Your problem is not with me.
00:35:17.000Your quarrel, sir, is with my creator.
00:35:19.000Okay, so this is just... It's such a way to malign Mike Pence.
00:35:24.000Mike Pence has been dealing with gay people like his entire career.
00:35:27.000This idea that Mike Pence sits around at night and thinks about the bad gays... Where are you getting this?
00:35:32.000Legitimately, where are you getting this?
00:35:34.000And it's always confusing to me when purportedly religious people, and especially secular people, Somehow put it on religious people that religious people sit around all the time fulminating about the gays.
00:35:49.000The argument that Buttigieg is making there, by the way, is an irreligious argument.
00:35:53.000The argument that he is making there is because he has a biological drive to be gay, which is something that I fully accept, by the way, that homosexual orientation is largely, if not entirely, genetic.
00:36:06.000I don't think that the science proves that it is entirely genetic.
00:36:08.000It is a combination of environmental factors and biological factors.
00:36:12.000Twin studies tend to show that if one identical twin is gay, only about 50% of the time is the other twin gay, which suggests that there is a genetic component, but it is not entirely genetic in all cases.
00:36:25.000From a religious perspective, the religious perspective on homosexual activity is the same as the religious perspective on adulterous activity, the religious perspective on premarital sexual activity.
00:36:34.000The perspective is that you have a biological drive to do X does not mean that you can do X in a moral, non-sinful sense.
00:36:40.000That is not a judgment of Pete Buttigieg.
00:36:43.000That has nothing to do with Pete Buttigieg as a human being.
00:36:47.000And the argument that if I think that homosexual activity is a sin, that somehow I am anti-God is such a bizarre argument.
00:36:56.000Like, people have natural drives to do all those things all the time.
00:36:59.000Like, every man has an evolutionary biological drive.
00:37:01.000Every straight man has an evolutionary biological drive to impregnate as many women as possible.
00:37:07.000If I say I don't want you to impregnate as many women as possible, am I now anti-God because God also made that drive?
00:37:11.000It's a bizarre argument, but the more bizarre argument is the one that Buttigieg is making, which is that Mike Pence is sitting around thinking about him.
00:37:19.000I guarantee you, Buttigieg spends more time thinking about what Mike Pence thinks about Buttigieg than Mike Pence spends time thinking about Buttigieg.
00:37:27.000This is one of the weirder things in our modern American politics.
00:37:46.000I don't care what the state's standard of marriage is because, frankly, who the hell's the state to legitimize my marriage or not legitimize my marriage?
00:37:54.000I think that the state should be irrelevant in this, which would put me on the same page in terms of policy as most people on the left when it comes to same-sex marriage.
00:38:02.000I don't think the state should be involved in this stuff.
00:38:04.000And then Joe started asking about my moral views on homosexual activity.
00:38:23.000You think Pence has never met a gay guy?
00:38:25.000But the left needs to castigate people with whom it disagrees as morally inferior, as bad, as ungodly.
00:38:32.000I've never heard my pence say one word about Pete Buttigieg or suggest that Pete Buttigieg is ungodly or un-Christian.
00:38:38.000And that's exactly what I've heard from Pete Buttigieg about a bunch of people on the right who happen to be Christian, about people who happen to be religious and disagree with him about the sinfulness or non-sinfulness of particular activity.
00:38:49.000It seems to me that Buttigieg and a lot of folks on the left are a lot more judgmental about religious people than religious people are even judgmental about sin.
00:38:57.000Especially because religious people all know that we all sin.
00:39:09.000But the idea of using my religious views of sin as a way to polarize you from me, as though I'm sitting in judgment on you all the time, is such a deliberate misread of what it means to be a religious human being.
00:39:19.000All that that can be attributed to is ignorance or malice.
00:39:23.000That's really all that they can... I have no other answer.
00:39:27.000Meanwhile, there was something that happened over the weekend that I thought was quite interesting.
00:39:30.000We'll get to the Israeli election in just a second because I think that that is happening today.
00:39:34.000It's quite fascinating, but I want to discuss a comment made by Barack Obama abroad.
00:39:39.000So Barack Obama has kind of been disowned by the Democratic Party to a certain extent.
00:39:43.000It's the dirty little secret of the Democratic Party is that they saw Obama as too conciliatory.
00:39:48.000They saw Obama as too incremental, a lot of Democrats.
00:39:51.000And so now they are trying to disconnect from the Obama era, which is why you are seeing the socialist left rip into Joe Biden.
00:39:56.000That's the dirty little secret as to what is happening here.
00:39:59.000And the reason that is happening is because the far left is recognizing something that many on the mainstream left are not recognizing.
00:40:06.000And that is that there is a hole at the heart of Western civilization.
00:40:09.000The far left is trying to fill it with socialism and political rage.
00:40:13.000The right is, I think, trying to do the correcting and rebuild social fabric in response to this hole in the heart.
00:40:19.000Barack Obama doesn't even seem to acknowledge that hole exists.
00:40:22.000Here's Barack Obama talking about Europe in 2019.
00:40:26.000Europe in 2019, in some ways, has achieved the pinnacle of human well-being.
00:40:36.000I mean, collectively in Europe right now, On average, you probably see the highest standards of living of any group of people In the history of the planet.
00:42:11.000The same folks on the left who are fighting mad, rightly so, about the Russians getting involved, the Russian government getting involved in the American election, didn't seem to mind very much when Barack Obama deliberately involved himself in the Israeli elections.
00:42:26.000He, like, deployed his own people over to Israel to try and knock off Benjamin Netanyahu, who ironically ended up outliving him, politically speaking.
00:42:34.000And Netanyahu has been in office for well over a decade at this point.
00:42:38.000I believe he's about to become the longest-serving Israeli prime minister in history.
00:42:42.000And he has gained in the polls in recent weeks.
00:42:44.000Basically, there are two main parties in Israel.
00:42:48.000One has been called the Blue and White Party, and it's essentially a unity party between a center-right party and kind of a centrist party, and the other is Likud.
00:42:56.000And the way that the Israeli parliamentary system works is you then have to cobble together a majority of the delegates in Knesset in order to formulate a government.
00:43:49.000In fact, he's acted with, I think, far too much restraint with regard to Hamas in the Gaza Strip, which is consistently firing missiles into the center of Israel, or at least rockets into the center of Israel, building terror tunnels, shooting its own citizens.
00:44:01.000And Netanyahu has basically allowed that government to continue operating.
00:44:04.000If the Israelis want to attend that government, they could do it legitimately any day.
00:44:08.000But the left is fighting mad at Netanyahu.
00:44:09.000Because they want a more conciliatory Israeli government.
00:44:12.000Now, what the left in the United States does not understand is that when it comes to the Palestinians, there is no more conciliatory government.
00:44:18.000The government of a blue and white party, led by Gantz and Lapid.
00:44:24.000Benny Gantz, a former general in the IDF.
00:44:27.000And Yair Lapid is the son of a far-left guy who's now more moderate.
00:44:31.000He was an anchor on television for a while.
00:44:35.000On foreign policy, they're not going to be any different than Netanyahu has been.
00:44:38.000The only thing that might be a little different is you won't see them cozy up quite as much to Trump.
00:44:42.000But they are not going to suddenly start cutting deals with the terrorist government in the Gaza Strip or the terrorist government in Judea and Samaria.
00:44:49.000Nonetheless, you're seeing far leftists like Beto O'Rourke, who, by the way, is so far left that he voted against the funding of Israel's Iron Dome.
00:44:56.000The very system that allows Israel to shoot down rockets that are flying over Tel Aviv, Beto O'Rourke voted against funding because he's a full-on Obama bro when it comes to Israel.
00:45:04.000Here's Beto O'Rourke calling Netanyahu a racist.
00:45:06.000Because this skateboarding doofus thinks that he knows anything about Israeli politics.
00:45:12.000The U.S.-Israel relationship is one of the most important relationships that we have on the planet.
00:45:18.000And that relationship, if it is to be successful, must transcend partisanship in the United States, and it must be able to transcend a prime minister who is racist, as he warns about Arabs coming to the polls.
00:45:32.000Okay, I love this crap from Beto O'Rourke.
00:45:34.000Netanyahu doesn't represent the true will of the Israeli people.
00:46:04.000Also, by the way, when Netanyahu was talking about Arabs coming to the polls, he was specifically talking about Arab parties, which in Israel have called for the explicit end of the State of Israel as a Jewish state.
00:46:16.000Yeah, the fact that the left is perfectly willing to involve itself in Israeli elections in a way that the American right does not is pretty telling, is pretty telling.
00:46:25.000Now listen, so I think Netanyahu, I think Netanyahu is a terrific prime minister.
00:46:29.000I think overall he's done an excellent job in Israel.
00:46:32.000If I were an Israeli citizen and if I voted in Israel, then maybe then I would probably vote for Netanyahu over Gantz and Lapid just because I don't know anything about Gantz and Lapid and I don't think that they Have themselves decided what their platform is but I'm an American citizen and that means that and and I care about America because this is my country Israel is not my country so that means that maybe the Israelis should decide for themselves whom best to elect not Beto freaking O'Rourke
00:46:57.000A guy whose knowledge of the Middle East is about the same as his knowledge of legitimately any issue, which is to say, near minimal.
00:47:05.000Okay, time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.
00:47:59.000The one who's really terrific is one of the kids, not the kid who plays Billy Batson.
00:48:04.000For those who don't know the Shazam story, basically it's this ridiculous premise, been around since I think the 40s, in which a kid basically turns into Superman every time he says the word Shazam.
00:49:59.000I'm sure he'll get a bunch of crap for it because we're not allowed to make fun of the hipsters or the millennials who are so incredibly woke but don't understand how privileged they are.
00:50:08.000Okay, time for some quick things that I hate.
00:50:14.000So the thing that I hate, number one, again, the media coverage with regard to this Israeli election is ridiculous.
00:50:19.000Because, again, the media in the United States, particularly the New York Times, the New York Times is legitimately an anti-Israel newspaper.
00:50:24.000They have been for a very, very long time.
00:50:26.000They ran an entire 11,000-word piece By an active anti-Israel advocate in the pay of Qatar, a country that stands behind Hamas.
00:50:34.000And they didn't reveal the guy's preferences.
00:50:36.000I mean, it's like the guy works for a 501c3 that Qatar has donated enormous sums of money to.
00:50:42.000We talked about it a little bit a couple of weeks ago.
00:50:44.000But now the New York Times is trying to manipulate against Netanyahu by suggesting that Netanyahu is supporting annexation.
00:50:51.000Isn't Netanyahu supporting annexation of Judea and Samaria?
00:50:54.000No, what he has talked about is applying sovereignty, sovereignty, over Jewish areas of Judea and Samaria.
00:51:00.000That is, that is simply a reality on the ground.
00:51:02.000That is what is going to happen whether you have a left government, a right government, or a central government.
00:51:06.000If anybody thinks that Efrat is suddenly going to be in a Palestinian state, it's absolute nonsense.
00:51:10.000Every single prime minister, including Ehud Barak, including Ehud Olmert, has talked about the major Israeli settlements being part of Israeli territory because This is the dirty little secret.
00:51:20.000Israel, one fifth of its citizens are Muslim.
00:51:23.000There will be zero Jews living in a Palestinian state because it will be, in fact, you want to talk about a racist apartheid state, that will be the Palestinian state because it is right now a racist apartheid state in which they teach their kids about the murder of Jews on a regular basis.
00:51:37.000The media continue to claim that it's all about Israelis' greater territorial ambitions.
00:51:42.000Netanyahu, you will recall, in the late 90s, signed the Y River Accords, which gave control of a significant chunk of Judea and Samaria to the Palestinian Authority.
00:51:51.000The Palestinian Authority then used that chunk of territory to launch the Second Intifada in the early part of the 2000s.
00:51:58.000When he talked, when Netanyahu talks about annexing Jewish territory, areas in which there are Jewish settlements, that has been part of the deal for a very long time.
00:52:08.000And as far as just annexing part or all of Judea and Samaria, if you annex it and then you allow self-rule in parts of Judea and Samaria for Palestinians, that is no different than what the United States effectively does with Puerto Rico.
00:52:22.000In the United States, if you're a Puerto Rican citizen, you are American, but you do not vote in America's national elections.
00:52:29.000This is not unprecedented in any way, yet the New York Times is trying to proclaim that the better solution is presumably the continuation of a terror group in control of all of its own borders.
00:52:38.000That hasn't worked out badly anywhere in the world, obviously.
00:52:43.000So Kim Foxx, the state's attorney over in Chicago, who's now under fire for having let Chelsea Smollett off the hook, she appeared to rainbow-push a coalition event with Jesse Jackson, who legitimately is one of the worst people of the last half of the 20th century.
00:52:57.000And there she proclaimed that the reason she's being criticized is, wait for it, because everybody's racist.
00:53:02.000The efforts that I've had on criminal justice reform that were once celebrated by many in this county that are now being attacked because of one case and one celebrity, I think we have to ask ourselves, what is this really about?
00:53:17.000That when we get in these positions that somehow goals post change.
00:53:29.000Somehow, when you do the best, and as you put our office on national standards, there are people watching what we're doing in Cook County around criminal justice reform.
00:54:08.000So there is this journalistic critic named David Zerwick, and he issued what I thought was one of the dumbest critiques of the Trump administration in recent history on CNN.
00:54:18.000He suggested that what fascists do is exhaust the media.
00:55:14.000Okay, we'll be back here a little bit later today with two additional hours.
00:55:17.000Plus, If you want to watch something a little bit later, I'm on Dave Rubin's show, too, because we are generating hours and hours of content for you folks.
00:55:24.000Also, go pick up a copy of my national bestseller, The Right Side of History.