The Ben Shapiro Show - June 21, 2023


Hunter Escapes Justice


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53 minutes

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207.43869

Word Count

11,136

Sentence Count

750

Misogynist Sentences

16

Hate Speech Sentences

19


Summary

Hunter Biden has reached a plea deal with the feds to resolve his tax and gun charges, according to a report from the Wall Street Journal. Joe Biden and the White House are said to be relieved, but there are still questions about why it took so long for this whole thing to come to a resolution, and whether the other investigations into Hunter Biden will continue. Also, a new report says Hunter Biden is making a $75,000-a-month stripper baby mama a full-time stripper, which is about $5,000 a month. Is this a scam? Or is this the real deal? And is this a slap on the wrist for Joe Biden, who is the only living son of former Vice President Joe Biden? Today's special guest is Rachel Maddow, former White House correspondent for the New York Times, joins us to talk about it all. Guests: Former White House Correspondent Adam Schiff, former FBI Director Robert Mueller, and former Justice Department spokesman Greg Andrey Oran. Thanks to caller for the call in the middle of the episode about Hunter Biden's plea deal. Thank you, Rachel! Thanks, Rachel, too, for the question and for the story! and thanks, Rachel for the questions and the story, and thanks for the links to the stories you sent in! and the facts you provided. . Thanks also to Rachel, Rachel and Rachel for her reporting on this episode, and for all the questions she asked about this episode and the fact that she got a chance to ask about this. Thanks Rachel's answers the question, Rachel's question. and Rachel's story, Rachel s response, and Rachel s answer the question Rachel s tweet about this, and the answer she got back from a reporter s question . Thanks Rachel s question, and also Rachel's tweet about it. Rachel's response to it, and her response to the question about the story. , Rachel's answer, and a call from a reader's question about it, thank you Rachel s reaction to Rachel s reporting on the story and more. Thank you so much Rachel's article, Rachel . Thank you Rachel's questions, Rachel is so much thank you, so much love, Rachel & Rachel's work, Rachel. -- Rachel's back with your questions and your questions, and so much more! Rachel, thank you! - Rachel's Story


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Well, the most important thing is that Joe Biden is very relieved.
00:00:03.000 He's in a very, very good mood this morning.
00:00:05.000 According to the media, Joe Biden has been just really upset about the fate of his son, Hunter.
00:00:11.000 It's been a very upsetting time for Joe.
00:00:13.000 I mean, never mind the fact that he was probably clearing checks from Hunter, that there are actual emails on Hunter's computer.
00:00:19.000 Remember that laptop that was supposed to be brushing disinformation?
00:00:22.000 There are actual emails on there in which There are text messages, Hunter talking with people about how he was paying his dad's bills and all of this.
00:00:28.000 But the really important thing is that now Joe Biden can sleep better in the late afternoon.
00:00:32.000 I would say at night, but he's really old.
00:00:34.000 So like in the late afternoon, he can sleep really, really well for that afternoon nap, which goes directly into his nighttime sleep, which goes directly into his morning siesta.
00:00:42.000 Well, according to Politico, Hunter Biden has now reached a plea deal with the feds to resolve his tax issues and gun charges.
00:00:49.000 Biden has reached that deal to resolve a five-year federal investigation into his failure to pay about a million bucks in federal taxes and his purchase of a handgun in 2018.
00:00:56.000 That purchase of a handgun in 2018, of course, was done because he filed a form that was false.
00:01:01.000 That form suggested that he was not a drug addict.
00:01:04.000 Meanwhile, he was snorting Parmesan cheese off carpets.
00:01:06.000 He was so into crack cocaine.
00:01:07.000 Under an agreement detailed Tuesday in a filing in federal court in Delaware, Joe Biden's son will plead guilty to a pair of misdemeanor tax charges.
00:01:13.000 Prosecutors have also charged him with possessing a firearm According to the Wall Street Journal, if approved by a judge, the plea agreement between the Justice Department and Hunter Biden will end a long-running criminal probe into President Biden's only surviving son.
00:01:21.000 of probation, that is a slap on the wrist, and everybody knows that that is a slap on
00:01:25.000 the wrist.
00:01:26.000 The Wall Street Journal has a long piece about how exactly this plea deal ended up coming
00:01:31.000 about.
00:01:32.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, if approved by a judge, the plea agreement between the
00:01:35.000 Justice Department and Hunter Biden will end a long-running criminal probe into President
00:01:39.000 Biden's only surviving son.
00:01:41.000 One of the big questions here is going to be whether the other investigations into Hunter
00:01:46.000 Biden will continue.
00:01:48.000 One of the questions is why it took so long for this whole thing to happen.
00:01:51.000 According to the Journal, the meandering inquiry took over five years over two administrations and came with many challenges, including disagreements among investigators over how to proceed.
00:01:58.000 By mid-2022, investigators believed there was already enough evidence to charge Hunter Biden.
00:02:02.000 Prosecutors held off on a decision for months while they reviewed the defense evidence.
00:02:05.000 Among other issues, prosecutors struggled with certain facts, including whether their target's drug addiction would present a defense against a potential criminal tax case.
00:02:12.000 Now, I'm just going to put it out there.
00:02:14.000 There's also the significant possibility that investigators did not actually want to charge Hunter Biden, you know, right before the midterm elections.
00:02:21.000 And so they wait until right after the midterm elections in a dead year.
00:02:24.000 2023 is, of course, a year with no serious elections.
00:02:27.000 In a charge meeting in October, federal prosecutors were informed of investigators' longstanding concerns about what they described as irregularities in the handling of the DOJ's investigation, according to a lawyer for an IRS supervisor who in April expressed concern to lawmakers about political interference in the probe.
00:02:40.000 The agent said that after airing his concerns, he and his investigative team were no longer invited to any further prosecutorial team calls and meetings on the case, effectively excluding them from the case.
00:02:48.000 There have been longstanding accusations that basically Hunter Biden was being given special treatment by the prosecutors, that at every turn the prosecutors were going out of their way in order to give him the strongest possible defense.
00:03:00.000 But as I say, the real story here is that Joe Biden and the White House are very relieved.
00:03:04.000 That is according to Politico, quote, inside the White House and Biden's own relief over the Hunter plea deal.
00:03:10.000 Members of Biden's inner circle took great comfort in knowing that with a guilty plea, Hunter likely would not serve prison time.
00:03:15.000 According to Politico, the president himself privately told Confidence he was proud of his son for taking responsibility for his actions.
00:03:22.000 Oh, is that what happened here?
00:03:23.000 Is that Hunter Biden took responsibility for his actions?
00:03:26.000 Dude won't even take responsibility for, you know, his own child.
00:03:31.000 Apparently he came to a settlement yesterday in which he lowered the amount of child support he's providing to that child, this is from the stripper baby mama, from $20,000 a month down to $5,000 a month.
00:03:42.000 But I love that Joe Biden is like, well, now Hunter's a responsible citizen as he makes his paintings and sells them in what very much appears to be a money laundering scam to people for like $75,000 a print and $500,000 for a painting.
00:03:54.000 Several people close to the elder Biden portrayed him as having been deeply anxious for months about his son's legal fortunes and frustrated at the slow pace of the investigation.
00:04:01.000 Biden had repeatedly barked to confidence that he could not understand why his son was being made to twist in the wind for five years, concerned the legal limbo could create a stress that would trigger his son's demons, according to people in the inner circle who spoke about private matters on condition of anonymity.
00:04:14.000 Though Biden had earlier insisted his son had done nothing wrong, members of Biden's inner circle took great comfort in knowing that with a guilty plea, Hunter likely would not serve prison time.
00:04:21.000 And again, the way this is being played by the media this morning is Joe Biden, wow, I mean, what a great dad.
00:04:26.000 Seriously, what great dadding, Joe Biden.
00:04:29.000 Not, what exactly is Hunter's financial relationship with Joe?
00:04:32.000 Where exactly is Joe's stream of income coming from?
00:04:35.000 In fact, why is the entire Biden family making bank off of Joe's name?
00:04:39.000 Why was Hunter Biden on the board of Burisma knowing nothing about Ukraine or natural gas or, you know, being a non-drug abuser?
00:04:44.000 Where is all this money coming from and how is it flowing?
00:04:47.000 Why are there so many shell companies?
00:04:49.000 No, the real story is that Joe Biden feels better.
00:04:52.000 And if the old man feels better, well, I guess that that's all we could all really ask here.
00:04:56.000 I mean, sure he got a sweetheart deal, but shouldn't he get a sweetheart deal so the old man feels a little bit better about things?
00:05:02.000 Remember, after all, Joe Biden, the world's greatest dad, he has spent years saying that Hunter did nothing wrong.
00:05:08.000 In fact, here is Joe Biden doing that repeatedly.
00:05:12.000 The prosecutors think they could, they have enough to charge your son Hunter for tax crimes and a false statement about a gun purchase.
00:05:20.000 Personally and politically, how do you react to that?
00:05:23.000 Well, first of all, I'm proud of my son.
00:05:26.000 Your son, while there's no ties to you, could be charged by your Department of Justice.
00:05:31.000 How will that impact your presidency?
00:05:33.000 First of all, my son's done nothing wrong.
00:05:36.000 I trust him.
00:05:37.000 I have faith in him.
00:05:38.000 And it impacts my presidency by making me feel proud of him.
00:05:42.000 If it's not okay for a president's family to be involved in foreign businesses, why was it okay for your son when you were vice president?
00:05:50.000 Vice President Biden?
00:05:51.000 Look, uh...
00:05:53.000 My son did nothing wrong.
00:05:56.000 I did nothing wrong.
00:05:57.000 What's your understanding of what your son was doing for an extraordinary amount of money?
00:06:02.000 I don't know what he was doing.
00:06:03.000 I know he was on the board.
00:06:04.000 I found out he was on the board after he was on the board.
00:06:07.000 And that was it.
00:06:08.000 And there's nobody... Well, you've had a lot of time.
00:06:10.000 Isn't this something you want to get to the bottom of?
00:06:12.000 No, because I trust my son.
00:06:17.000 Oh.
00:06:18.000 Oh.
00:06:18.000 Well, you know who actually thinks that Hunter Biden did something wrong?
00:06:22.000 It's Hunter Biden, who pled guilty to all of these crimes.
00:06:24.000 We'll get to more on this in just a second, because again, Joe Biden's view of the law is that his son should get off scot-free and he should be made to feel better, personally, by the DOJ.
00:06:33.000 And you, if you commit the same crimes, you should probably go to jail for like a super long time.
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00:07:44.000 Okay, so here is the thing.
00:07:46.000 If you were charged with the same crimes that Joe Biden's son was charged with, Joe Biden would throw the book at you.
00:07:52.000 In fact, here is Joe Biden, not all that long ago, as in like last year, talking about how it was a priority for his administration to enforce the gun laws, to ensure that background checks were performed on every gun purchase, and if you lied on your forms, you should go to jail.
00:08:07.000 None of this absolves Congress the responsibility from the responsibility of acting to pass
00:08:15.000 universal background checks, eliminate gun manufacturers' immunity from liability.
00:08:21.000 And I'm determined once again to ban assault weapons in high capacity magazines.
00:08:29.000 Remember, you, the law-abiding citizen owning a gun like an AR-15.
00:08:34.000 You really should be criminalized, because you never know, that gun might jump out and bite somebody.
00:08:38.000 Hunter Biden, purchasing a gun, using a form where he said he was not a drug addict, while being addicted to crack cocaine.
00:08:43.000 And then his girlfriend, who used to be the wife of his brother, Beau's wife, his girlfriend at the time literally took that gun, dumped it in a trash can across from a high school, and the gun went missing.
00:08:55.000 That's okay.
00:08:56.000 That's something where, theoretically, Hunter could get a gun in a couple of years, right?
00:09:00.000 He's pleading out on the gun felony, so it's not going to be a felony.
00:09:04.000 He's going to be put into some sort of diversion program for drug abusers.
00:09:08.000 But again, if it were you, then Joe Biden would throw the book at you.
00:09:12.000 Also, you'll recall that Joe Biden is big on the taxes, right?
00:09:15.000 You gotta pay your fair share.
00:09:16.000 You don't want those rich people cheating on their taxes by paying capital gains tax in accordance with the law.
00:09:19.000 That'd be really bad.
00:09:20.000 Hunter Biden, that dude can skip down his taxes to the tune of like $1.2 million, and then he can have all of his friends pay the back taxes.
00:09:26.000 And you know what?
00:09:26.000 Totally fine with Joe Biden.
00:09:29.000 Pay your fair share.
00:09:38.000 Pay your fair share, Hunter.
00:09:44.000 But apparently when it's Hunter, Joe Biden is very relieved because Hunter is fine now.
00:09:47.000 Everything is all better.
00:09:49.000 The boo-boo has been made to go away because Daddy kissed the boo-boo right on the DOJ.
00:09:53.000 What exactly could have happened to Hunter here, by the way?
00:09:56.000 A myriad of crimes that were not charged in the first place.
00:09:58.000 And I'm not even talking about the foreign corruption.
00:10:01.000 So according The president's 53-year-old son pled guilty to two misdemeanor counts of failing to pay federal income taxes on at least $3 million he earned from overseas business dealings, but court filings revealing the deal made no mention of more serious charges that Hunter's laptop indicates he exposed himself to.
00:10:18.000 Number one, Hunter was almost certainly a violator of the Foreign Agents Registration Act.
00:10:23.000 That's FARA.
00:10:24.000 So for a long time, they didn't charge Farah violations.
00:10:26.000 Farah was basically, he got paid by a foreign regime in order to press their case in the United States.
00:10:32.000 And for a long time, nobody cared about it.
00:10:33.000 And then really, when Donald Trump came to the fore, you started to see people getting prosecuted under this sort of thing, most prominently Paul Manafort, who was Donald Trump's campaign manager in 2016.
00:10:43.000 Hunter was basically acting, I mean, he was literally on the board of a Ukrainian company that was lobbying inside the United States for special privileges from the vice president of the United States.
00:10:53.000 George Washington University Law Professor Jonathan Turley said that the evidence of Hunter violating a FARA was unassailable and undeniable.
00:11:00.000 Because again, he should have registered as a foreign agent.
00:11:02.000 The then second son visited his dad at least 30 times at the Obama White House and at Joe Biden's Delaware home, often within days of meetings with foreign nationals, according to schedules found on his abandoned laptop.
00:11:11.000 Also, there are people from these companies who are like, can he broker a meeting with his daddy for us?
00:11:16.000 They literally talk in emails that were found on Hunter's laptop all about why he was appointed in the first place.
00:11:22.000 And one of the reasons that he was appointed is, again, because of his access to people in positions of high power.
00:11:28.000 Emails from his laptop show that Hunter may have passed along funding requests to then Vice President Biden from the Crown Prince of Yugoslavia and the Crown Prince of Serbia as well.
00:11:37.000 Nothing there.
00:11:38.000 No charges on money laundering thus far.
00:11:40.000 The committee has combed through bank records and found evidence that at least nine Biden family members received payouts from million-dollar deals that Hunter inked in China and Romania.
00:11:49.000 How about solicitation of prostitution and sex trafficking?
00:11:51.000 That one is an obvious one.
00:11:52.000 He's banging every prostitute on every continent.
00:11:55.000 He's going to continents where there are no human beings and shipping prostitutes in to bang them.
00:11:59.000 He's like going to Antarctica and banging penguins, this guy.
00:12:03.000 Sex trafficking.
00:12:03.000 I mean, like, Hunter Biden's laptop was just filled of perverse images of him doing bad things to people who were clearly involved in the sex industry and nothing.
00:12:12.000 And nothing.
00:12:13.000 I mean, he was clearly cavorting with East European prostitutes.
00:12:16.000 That apparently did not matter either.
00:12:18.000 But you know what?
00:12:18.000 It's all been cleared up.
00:12:19.000 All is Allah.
00:12:20.000 And according to Hunter Biden's attorney, this is not a sweetheart deal.
00:12:23.000 This is what anybody would have gotten if their last name was Biden and they were the son of the president.
00:12:28.000 McCarthy was saying that if you look at other cases where the violations are similar, there's jail time.
00:12:32.000 There's much more.
00:12:34.000 There's there are more consequences, stricter consequences than what Hunter Biden is facing.
00:12:39.000 Is this a sweetheart deal?
00:12:41.000 You know, I've heard Speaker McCarthy say a lot of stuff I don't agree with.
00:12:45.000 There was no basis for what he said.
00:12:47.000 And he's not right.
00:12:51.000 Well, I mean, he is right, is the problem, and everybody knows that he's right.
00:12:55.000 The prosecutors are not asking for jail time.
00:12:56.000 He also says, and this is the part where it starts yet, really amazing.
00:13:00.000 He says that he thinks that what is fair is that Hunter does not go to jail and
00:13:04.000 that he should be able to get on with his life selling his magical paintings,
00:13:07.000 selling his magical finger paintings.
00:13:09.000 The prosecutors are not asking for jail time.
00:13:12.000 Are you concerned that the judge here might freelance?
00:13:16.000 I think, look, there are documents that haven't been publicly released yet.
00:13:22.000 I think people have reported what the prosecutors are asking for.
00:13:25.000 I think you have to wait until the court proceeding happens to know.
00:13:29.000 But, you know, I think the judge is going to do what's fair.
00:13:32.000 And I think what's fair is, you know, my client gets on with his life.
00:13:39.000 Oh, that is the most fair thing, because Hunter has so much productive work to do and so much more crack to smoke.
00:13:45.000 I mean, like, it's a long life, man.
00:13:47.000 And there's a lot of crack in the world for people who have bags of cash from Ukrainian oligarchs.
00:13:51.000 Also, and here, again, this is the most amazing part.
00:13:53.000 Hunter Biden's attorney got into a spat yesterday with the U.S.
00:13:56.000 attorney.
00:13:56.000 Why?
00:13:56.000 Because he said that he thinks that this is basically the end of the case.
00:13:59.000 And this is really where the dirt lies.
00:14:02.000 If this settlement here If this plea deal was meant to make all Hunter Biden issues go away before 2024, it's the dirtiest thing.
00:14:09.000 If all of the questions about Hunter Biden's foreign fundraising and where that money was going, if all of that was meant to just disappear because we were all supposed to look at a plea bargain in which nothing happens to Hunter.
00:14:21.000 He really pays no fine of any serious measure.
00:14:24.000 He has friends paying it.
00:14:24.000 He didn't go to jail.
00:14:26.000 He gets to go to some sort of outpatient program for drug addicts.
00:14:30.000 If all of that is meant to paper over all of the other potential corruption and the investigations really are over here, It's one of the, I mean, it's an amazing whitewash.
00:14:38.000 Here's Chris Clark basically claiming that.
00:14:41.000 Is this the end of it?
00:14:42.000 My understanding is that we're done.
00:14:44.000 The statement from the prosecutor's office, from Weiss's office, said the investigation is ongoing.
00:14:50.000 This is the statement announcing that criminal charges have been filed.
00:14:53.000 It's obviously not the statement about the plea agreement.
00:14:56.000 Are you led to believe that that investigation is ongoing, will be dropped once this plea deal is made official?
00:15:03.000 I'm not led to believe anything.
00:15:04.000 That's Mr. Weiss's statement.
00:15:06.000 I think there's going to be a court proceeding.
00:15:09.000 I think there are going to be agreements that are going to come out about the court proceeding.
00:15:12.000 And I think everyone will see what happens once that occurs.
00:15:16.000 Would you make a deal, though, if you thought there were more charges coming?
00:15:18.000 Would I make a deal?
00:15:19.000 Yeah.
00:15:20.000 No, I wouldn't.
00:15:23.000 OK, so there he is saying, I wouldn't have made a deal if I thought that there were more charges on the way.
00:15:27.000 So he's basically saying this was a deal from the DOJ to make the whole thing go to bad, which is really, really scummy and dirty.
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00:16:35.000 Okay, so the U.S.
00:16:42.000 attorney is now trying to rebut what Hunter Biden's attorney is saying.
00:16:46.000 A press release from David Weiss' team, that's the U.S.
00:16:48.000 attorney in this case, said the investigation is ongoing.
00:16:52.000 Now again, Chris Clark, Biden's attorney, said that he thought that basically the five-year investigation into Hunter is now resolved.
00:16:59.000 It'll be fascinating to see whether The U.S.
00:17:02.000 attorney is basically fibbing here, and it is resolved, and he just doesn't want it to look that way.
00:17:06.000 And he's already told Chris Clark Hunter, his attorney, that the rest of it's just going to go away or not.
00:17:10.000 What's amazing also is the media reaction.
00:17:12.000 Here's the headline from the New York Times, quote, Aww.
00:17:14.000 Aww.
00:17:14.000 I mean, that's so that's so sad.
00:17:15.000 are personal and politically painful.
00:17:17.000 Aww.
00:17:18.000 Aww.
00:17:19.000 I mean, that's so sad.
00:17:22.000 Aww.
00:17:23.000 I'm not aware of any other politician who gets this sort of treatment.
00:17:27.000 Seriously, I don't know any other politician who gets this sort of treatment.
00:17:29.000 I'm old enough to remember when George W. Bush was president, and there were pictures of, like, his daughters drinking in college, and people were like, oh my god!
00:17:35.000 What a terrible dad!
00:17:36.000 His kids are drinking in college!
00:17:37.000 That is just the worst!
00:17:39.000 Hunter Biden is snorting crack cocaine off the ass cracks of hookers, and everybody's like, wow, man, I feel bad for Joe.
00:17:44.000 Isn't that just sad?
00:17:46.000 What's happening here with Joe?
00:17:47.000 Oh my god, it's just, I mean, and sure, he, sure, he has a really nice house.
00:17:52.000 And he can afford a lot of things on a senator's salary.
00:17:55.000 And Hunter has many, many times implied, if not overtly stated, that he was funneling money to dad.
00:18:01.000 But, you know, really the story here is about the feelings of the old man.
00:18:04.000 Quote, after more than a half century in politics, no subject may be more personally painful nor politically problematic for President Biden than his troubled son.
00:18:11.000 He's troubled.
00:18:12.000 So troubled.
00:18:14.000 He has by various accounts a gaping wound in his heart and the most sensitive spot in his campaign armor.
00:18:20.000 Oh, oh, oh.
00:18:22.000 On the one hand, Hunter Biden's agreement on Tuesday to plead guilty capped a five-year investigation without prison time.
00:18:27.000 But on the other hand, it put Hunter once again in the crosshairs of Biden's adversaries, who instantly complained the wayward son got off too easy.
00:18:32.000 Oh, the pouncing, the pouncing that happens when the president's son, who may or may not be funneling him cash, is pleading guilty to a sweetheart deal.
00:18:39.000 Oh, the pouncing.
00:18:41.000 Insane levels of pouncing.
00:18:43.000 David Brock.
00:18:44.000 I love this.
00:18:44.000 Who do they go to for a quote?
00:18:45.000 David Brock, the founder of Media Matters and Hillary Apparatchik.
00:18:50.000 Oh, you know, let's let's get let's get an objective nonpartisan view.
00:18:52.000 Let's go to David Brock.
00:18:55.000 Famed former drug user.
00:18:58.000 Said the outcome of the prosecution refuted the many allegations hurled at the president and his son since the Trump administration.
00:19:03.000 Hunter will not be charged with any of the unfounded and outlandish issues Republicans right wing media have used to smear him for years, said Brock.
00:19:12.000 The fact that we're supposed to now be super sympathetic to Joe Biden on the day when this raises serious questions about his DOJ is pretty amazing.
00:19:20.000 The media are in full spin mode.
00:19:21.000 John Carl over at ABC is like, there's no evidence that there's any corruption inside the Biden family.
00:19:25.000 Really?
00:19:25.000 The whole Biden family?
00:19:26.000 Like at all?
00:19:28.000 But doesn't this show call that Biden is not in the pocket of the DOJ?
00:19:33.000 I mean, yes.
00:19:35.000 And again, it depends on so so how do you look at it?
00:19:37.000 You look at it and you say, look, they prosecuted anyway.
00:19:39.000 His son now has a criminal record.
00:19:41.000 Yes, that shows that it would seem to show there was no interference.
00:19:45.000 He didn't pull the plug on the investigation.
00:19:47.000 He didn't order his attorney general to pull the plug on the investigation.
00:19:50.000 But what Republicans will say is that this didn't look at the bigger, more serious allegations about whether or not I mean, the Republicans have made lots of Major allegations against Biden, against President Biden.
00:20:03.000 They call it the Biden crime family.
00:20:05.000 They claim they've traded off their name, that they've gotten money from foreign entities illegally.
00:20:14.000 None of that's been proven.
00:20:15.000 There's no evidence of that.
00:20:19.000 That they've traded off their name?
00:20:20.000 Hunter Biden literally admitted in an interview that you traded off his name.
00:20:23.000 I mean, the guy has no qualifications whatsoever.
00:20:25.000 You literally could not pass him a background check to be like a janitor at a federal office building.
00:20:30.000 And he was picking up bags of cash.
00:20:32.000 Hey, but the media are in full spin mode on behalf of Hunter and Joe.
00:20:36.000 Again, just be sympathetic to Joe.
00:20:37.000 Sad old Joe.
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00:21:41.000 OK, meanwhile, Claire McCaskill, former Democratic senator and MSNBC commentator.
00:21:46.000 Her real question is how can Republicans even sleep at night being so mean to the Bidens?
00:21:49.000 How can they even sleep at night?
00:21:51.000 And then the background is this cynical bet that nobody views this as a normal family.
00:21:58.000 Nobody knows that the Bidens have dealt with loss and pain.
00:22:01.000 What do you make of the fact that, to David Jolly's point, that they should take this loss and move on, find another political weapon to wield?
00:22:11.000 I don't know what America they live in.
00:22:14.000 And I don't know how they sleep at night.
00:22:17.000 You know, alcoholism and addiction are probably the most pervasive diseases in America.
00:22:26.000 Oh my god.
00:22:26.000 Hunter Biden is a victim.
00:22:28.000 He's a big ol' victim, says Claire McCaskill.
00:22:31.000 Now, every so often, the mask sort of slips with the media, and they're like, yeah, it kind of was a sweetheart deal.
00:22:35.000 MSNBC's Ken Delaney, and he's like, yeah, you could theoretically see this as a significant victory for Hunter.
00:22:40.000 Well, yes, it turns out that when you commit a bevy of crimes in the most obvious, egregious fashion, and there are pictures of you doing those crimes, and no one charges you with them, and then the crimes you are charged with, you get hit with, like, not just a slap on the wrist, but basically A box of Mike and Ikes are handed to you as you head your way to drug rehab.
00:22:58.000 Like, yeah, that's kind of a victory.
00:23:01.000 But under this arrangement, Mr. Biden would not get prison time.
00:23:04.000 He'd be sentenced to probation, assuming the judge goes along.
00:23:08.000 And then there's this other gun charge where he filled out a form declining to say, or failing to say, that he was addicted to drugs at the time.
00:23:17.000 That technically is a felony.
00:23:19.000 He will enter a diversion program.
00:23:20.000 That won't be on his record.
00:23:22.000 So, in a sense, you could see this as a significant victory for Hunter Biden.
00:23:28.000 Well, yeah, you could.
00:23:29.000 You know who sees it that way?
00:23:30.000 Every Republican.
00:23:31.000 James Comer, who's the head of the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability,
00:23:34.000 he put out a statement saying, Let's be clear, the Department of Justice's charges against
00:23:37.000 President Biden's son, Hunter, reveal a two-tier system of justice.
00:23:40.000 Hunter Biden is getting away with a slap on the wrist when growing evidence
00:23:43.000 uncovered by the House Oversight Committee reveals the Biden's engaged in a pattern of
00:23:46.000 corruption, influence peddling, and possibly bribery.
00:23:49.000 These charges against Hunter Biden and the sweetheart plea deal have no impact on the
00:23:53.000 on the oversight committee's investigation.
00:23:54.000 Again, the oversight committee is not a criminal charging body.
00:23:57.000 And herein lies the problem.
00:23:58.000 Kevin McCarthy says the same thing.
00:23:59.000 Speaker of the House says this is a two-tier system, pretty obviously.
00:24:03.000 Can we talk a little bit about the Hunter Biden plea deal and your reaction to that?
00:24:07.000 My first reaction is it continues to show the two-tier system in America.
00:24:13.000 If you are the president's leading political opponent, the DOJ tries to literally put you in jail and give you prison time.
00:24:20.000 If you are the president's son, you get a sweetheart deal.
00:24:26.000 That is absolutely true, but the good news is the media are there to explain that number one, on the one hand, it's not a sweetheart deal.
00:24:32.000 There's no two-tiered system.
00:24:34.000 And number two, of course there's a two-tiered system and it benefits people like Hunter, but the people who are really hurt are the poor people, which means it's okay that it benefits Hunter.
00:24:41.000 So argument number one was made by CNN's Dana Bash yesterday.
00:24:44.000 Here she was saying, it's not a two-tiered system of justice.
00:24:46.000 No way, no how.
00:24:49.000 This is not happening in a vacuum.
00:24:51.000 This is happening up against what we saw last week with the former president.
00:24:57.000 They could not be more different for reasons that we don't have even with the 24-hour news network to explain.
00:25:04.000 But they are very, very different.
00:25:06.000 What is the same is that the Republican response, the Republican, those who feel the need to or the desire to defend Donald Trump are making the same arguments that they are making against Hunter Biden, which is allegations that the DOJ is, that there are two tiers of justice and that one is for Democrats, the other is Republicans.
00:25:32.000 We can't say this enough.
00:25:33.000 There is no evidence to prove that at all.
00:25:38.000 There's no evidence to prove that at all.
00:25:39.000 This is from the same news network that suggests that American law enforcement is systemically racist across the board, which is why we have to have 20 million people in the streets protesting, and we have to whitewash $2 billion in property damage.
00:25:50.000 That's how terrible our criminal justice system is.
00:25:52.000 But when it comes to Hunter Biden, it is clean as the driven snow.
00:25:55.000 Meanwhile, Jake Tapper over on CNN, he says, well, you know, there is a two-tier system of justice, but you should see what happens to poor people.
00:26:01.000 OK, let's assume that that's true.
00:26:03.000 How does that then excuse what they're doing to Hunter?
00:26:05.000 I'm just confused by the argument here.
00:26:07.000 In the immediate, you saw the reaction from across Capitol Hill and the campaign trail.
00:26:12.000 All these Republicans are on the same page on this, on using this as a rallying cry.
00:26:17.000 In the long term, Jake, I don't think we know the answer.
00:26:20.000 I'll be surprised if a year and a half from now, in November of 2024, we're talking about these Hunter Biden plea deals as the thing that the 2024 presidential election hinges on.
00:26:32.000 Yeah.
00:26:32.000 If they're concerned about a two-tier system of justice, they should learn a little bit more about the kind of justice system that poor people in this country get, because that is really a two-tier system of justice.
00:26:44.000 Okay, I'm just confused as to why that would then excuse the two-tier system of justice between Democrats and Republicans when you're talking about high-level political operatives and whether they should receive jail sentences.
00:26:52.000 Meanwhile, President Trump, who is currently under indictment, that case is now going to be moved, apparently, out of Miami, and a trial date has been set by Judge Eileen Cannon.
00:27:02.000 She's moving the case to her Fort Pierce courthouse, so it won't be, like, in the middle of downtown Miami.
00:27:08.000 And she also noted that the location could continue to change, apparently.
00:27:11.000 She has set a trial date as early as August 14th, but that's likely to be pushed back.
00:27:15.000 It's very unlikely the trial actually begins in August.
00:27:18.000 There are going to be a bunch of appeals.
00:27:19.000 Presumably, it will happen sometime later this year.
00:27:22.000 Doubtful that it will last beyond the election, but that is going forward.
00:27:25.000 Meanwhile, Trump is responding to the Hunter Biden announcement, quote, With a lot of capital letters.
00:27:31.000 A lot of capital letters happening here.
00:27:32.000 The Hunter Joe Biden settlement is a massive, and then the rest of this is all caps, cover up and full-scale election interference scam, the likes of which has never been seen in our country before.
00:27:40.000 A traffic ticket, and Joe is all cleaned up and ready to go into the 2024 presidential election.
00:27:45.000 And this has crooked DOJ, state and city prosecutors, Marxists and communists all hit me from all sides and angels with bull.
00:27:53.000 I assume that he meant angles.
00:27:55.000 With bull.
00:27:56.000 Make America great again!
00:27:58.000 Um, so, I mean, let's assume that all that's true, because I agree with a lot of that.
00:28:03.000 This is a two-tier system of justice and all the rest.
00:28:05.000 Does Trump have a plan to defeat that?
00:28:07.000 Again, this is the big question when it comes to Trump.
00:28:09.000 So when we shift over to the other side of the aisle, clearly, there's a lot of rigging that goes on in these elections.
00:28:13.000 The DOJ makes decisions that are damaging to one side and not the other.
00:28:17.000 Trump's arguments about the presence of the deep state have been true.
00:28:20.000 All of that is right.
00:28:22.000 How are you going to go about defeating it?
00:28:24.000 That would be the big question.
00:28:27.000 Shouting into the ether on Truth Social, which has like 7 followers and literally the only person that anyone knows is on Truth Social is Trump?
00:28:34.000 I'm not sure how that solves any of the problem.
00:28:38.000 Again, he's going to face a criminal trial, and at a certain point, you would want him to have a strategy.
00:28:43.000 Meanwhile, he's basically, instead of going in real fashion after Democrats, he's spending most of his time going after Ron DeSantis, who he sees as his top competitor.
00:28:53.000 He did a second part of an interview with Brett Baier the other night.
00:28:55.000 They aired it last night.
00:28:57.000 And the interview was not amazing.
00:29:00.000 So Trump was asked why he keeps calling Ron DeSantis, Ron's a sanctimonious by Bret Baier.
00:29:03.000 And he's like, because he's disloyal.
00:29:05.000 Well, first of all, sanctimonious and disloyal are not the same word.
00:29:09.000 They're not synonyms.
00:29:10.000 They're not remotely synonyms.
00:29:11.000 But in any case, here is Donald Trump explaining.
00:29:15.000 I told all governors, you do what you want.
00:29:17.000 You can shut it down or not.
00:29:18.000 Florida, by the way, he shut it down tight.
00:29:20.000 No highways, no beaches, no this.
00:29:22.000 But then he pushed back pretty hard.
00:29:23.000 He opened up.
00:29:24.000 But is it fair to criticize him on that?
00:29:25.000 He was credited for how Florida dealt with COVID.
00:29:28.000 Because he has better PR than other governors.
00:29:30.000 But other governors did a better job than Ron DeSanctimonious.
00:29:33.000 So look, Why do you use that name?
00:29:35.000 Because, um, I got him elected.
00:29:38.000 And I thought it was very disloyal when he said, yes, I'd run.
00:29:40.000 I got him past two races.
00:29:42.000 I got him past the primary because he was losing by 30 points or more.
00:29:45.000 So it's a loyalty question?
00:29:47.000 Yeah, it's a loyalty.
00:29:47.000 I'm a big loyalist.
00:29:48.000 You know, some people say, some people right here in this room have told me, sir, don't worry about loyalty.
00:29:53.000 Loyalty doesn't mean anything in politics.
00:29:55.000 I said to me, it does.
00:29:58.000 To Donald Trump, loyalty means something?
00:30:00.000 I'm sorry.
00:30:01.000 There are certain things that are just not true.
00:30:04.000 That is just not a true statement.
00:30:05.000 There are many people who are very loyal to Donald Trump.
00:30:08.000 I would love to hear a list of the people that Donald Trump is loyal to.
00:30:11.000 Like, loyalty means something conflicts with your interest and you stay loyal to the person anyway.
00:30:16.000 Somebody does something damaging and you stay loyal to them anyway.
00:30:19.000 Like, name the people to whom Donald Trump is loyal.
00:30:21.000 Loyalty is like a complete one-way street with President Trump.
00:30:25.000 Now again, you can vote for him, you can like him, but that is just a lie.
00:30:28.000 Okay, when Donald Trump says that loyalty is very big, what he means is when people are disloyal to him, when they do a thing he doesn't like, he doesn't like it.
00:30:36.000 And then he yells at them.
00:30:37.000 And then he goes after them.
00:30:39.000 But at what point has he taken a hit for a member of his staff or his administration?
00:30:45.000 At what point has he taken a hit for pretty much anyone?
00:30:47.000 That's just not a true statement.
00:30:50.000 Ron is saying because he's disloyal because I endure.
00:30:52.000 So I guess the idea is that if he endorses anyone, that person for literally the rest
00:30:56.000 of time has to do whatever Donald Trump says on any score for the rest of his life.
00:31:00.000 Like, how does that even operate? I don't even understand how that operates.
00:31:04.000 It's speaking of disloyal, you know, it's kind of disloyal.
00:31:09.000 If we're going to talk about disloyal, how about a governor who you endorsed
00:31:13.000 and who you praised for his COVID policy?
00:31:15.000 How about throwing out an ad that is just a lie about that governor?
00:31:18.000 Would that be disloyal?
00:31:19.000 I don't know.
00:31:19.000 Maybe.
00:31:20.000 Here's an ad that the Trump campaign just put out about Ron DeSantis and his treatment of COVID in Florida.
00:31:24.000 And it's just a lie.
00:31:25.000 It's not true.
00:31:27.000 Governor Ron DeSantis shut down Florida businesses during COVID, drove away tourism, and used a mandate to keep Floridians from leaving their homes.
00:31:35.000 Governor Ron DeSantis issues a wide-reaching mandate.
00:31:38.000 The party's over in Florida.
00:31:39.000 He wants you to forget, but Floridians remember.
00:31:42.000 We can't stand another three months being shut down.
00:31:46.000 Please, Governor, open the phone.
00:31:47.000 To actually shut us down just made no sense.
00:31:50.000 We did it for the bars and closed the bars down.
00:31:52.000 Lockdown Ron.
00:31:53.000 He failed Florida.
00:31:55.000 Don't let him fail America.
00:31:56.000 Lockdown Ron?! !
00:31:59.000 The level of gaslighting here is just insane.
00:32:02.000 I'm sorry.
00:32:02.000 It's just crazy.
00:32:03.000 What is that?
00:32:03.000 This little bit?
00:32:05.000 Maybe?
00:32:06.000 Like a little bit?
00:32:07.000 What the?
00:32:08.000 Like no one believed.
00:32:09.000 I moved my entire family from California to Florida.
00:32:13.000 Hundreds of thousands of people have moved to Florida because it was not a lockdown state.
00:32:18.000 Blue staters were vacationing in Florida because it was not a lockdown state.
00:32:23.000 Like what in the, is that, I feel a dishonesty about a person that you once, like actual dishonesty.
00:32:29.000 Not that I'm running against you.
00:32:30.000 Actual dishonesty is kind of disloyal, seems like a bad quality a little bit.
00:32:37.000 And like this is, by the middle of August, Ron DeSantis was saying, we'll never have a lockdown in this country again.
00:32:43.000 And Donald Trump was still like giving the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Anthony Fauci.
00:32:51.000 I don't understand.
00:32:54.000 In any case, that actually was not the worst clip of the interview with Bret Baier.
00:32:58.000 It was a bad interview for Trump with Bret Baier, just simply.
00:33:00.000 But Donald Trump was asked about pardoning Alice Johnson.
00:33:03.000 Now, it was a bizarre move by Donald Trump to sign the so-called First Step Act, which was a criminal justice reform program that went soft on drug dealers.
00:33:15.000 He did it largely at the behest of Kim Kardashian, which, by the way, don't let Kim Kardashian make either sex tapes or policy.
00:33:22.000 Just a few rules in life.
00:33:25.000 Also, she probably, if you're gonna have kids with someone, probably shouldn't.
00:33:29.000 Anyway.
00:33:30.000 Don't make your policy based on Kim Kardashian.
00:33:34.000 So one of the things that Trump did was in an attempt to win over black voters, a misbegotten attempt to win over black voters, because this is just bad policy, he decided he was going to pardon an industrial scale drug dealer named Alice Johnson.
00:33:45.000 Alice Johnson ran and was convicted of running a multi-million dollar cocaine dealing organization.
00:33:52.000 And underlings for Alice Johnson were like involved in actual violent crime, like murders and things.
00:33:58.000 Alice Johnson was sentenced to decades in prison.
00:34:01.000 and Donald Trump pardoned her.
00:34:02.000 So during this interview with Brett Baier, he starts bragging about how he pardoned Alice Johnson.
00:34:07.000 And Brett Baier quite properly says, well, you know, Mr. President,
00:34:10.000 one of your new proposals is that we should execute drug dealers.
00:34:12.000 So under that proposal, the person who you say should be pardoned,
00:34:14.000 you would have executed.
00:34:15.000 And Trump has no answer for this.
00:34:18.000 Because again, there's no policy here.
00:34:22.000 It's an attitude.
00:34:23.000 Now, I'll say it for the thousandth time.
00:34:24.000 You can like the attitude.
00:34:25.000 You can think that the attitude will sometimes give you some really good things because, again, reactionary politics.
00:34:30.000 When the left is this bad, maybe it's necessary.
00:34:32.000 But can we stop pretending that this is any sort of forethought, 4D chess stuff?
00:34:36.000 It just isn't.
00:34:37.000 And listen, this is the longest, uh, like the longest out loud, uh, you will hear on national TV.
00:34:44.000 Maybe, certainly in the last couple of years.
00:34:46.000 Here is Bret Baier asking a very basic question to Donald Trump and Donald Trump just freezing like a deer in the headlights.
00:34:52.000 As an example, a woman who you know very well was in jail.
00:34:57.000 She had 24 more years to serve.
00:34:59.000 She served for 22 years.
00:35:01.000 Alice Johnson.
00:35:02.000 Alice.
00:35:02.000 She was in the Super Bowl.
00:35:03.000 High quality.
00:35:05.000 I said, how many years?
00:35:07.000 And she was on a telephone call and they were involved in selling marijuana, mostly marijuana.
00:35:13.000 And she got like 50 years in jail.
00:35:15.000 But she'd be killed under your plan.
00:35:17.000 Huh?
00:35:18.000 As a drug dealer?
00:35:19.000 No, no, no.
00:35:20.000 Under my... Oh, under that?
00:35:23.000 It would depend on the severity.
00:35:25.000 It would depend on the severity.
00:35:26.000 She's technically a former drug dealer.
00:35:28.000 She had multi-million dollar cocaine ring.
00:35:31.000 Any drug dealer... Look.
00:35:33.000 So even Alice Johnson in that ad?
00:35:35.000 She can't do it, okay?
00:35:36.000 By the way, if that was there, no, she wouldn't be killed.
00:35:41.000 It would start as of now.
00:35:43.000 So you wouldn't go to the past.
00:35:47.000 Oh, so yes, we understand that laws work to the future and that they're not a time machine, Mr. President, but that's not the question.
00:35:54.000 By the way, that's such a lie that Alice Johnson was caught on a phone talking about marijuana.
00:35:58.000 And so they sentenced her to like 40 years in prison.
00:36:01.000 Wrongo!
00:36:03.000 It's just it's just not true.
00:36:05.000 She was the leader of a multimillion dollar cocaine ring.
00:36:08.000 She was connected with Colombian drug dealers.
00:36:11.000 She was sentenced to life imprisonment without parole.
00:36:13.000 Like, okay.
00:36:14.000 Anyway, in just a moment, we'll get to breaking news on the COVID front, because it turns out that, you know, pretty much all of the original theories about the lab leak, those turn out that those are actually true.
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00:37:33.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, a prominent scientist who worked on COVID projects funded by the U.S.
00:37:37.000 government is one of three Chinese researchers who became sick with an unspecified illness during the initial outbreak of COVID-19.
00:37:43.000 This would have been well before the wet market stuff.
00:37:45.000 The identity and role of the researchers is one piece of intelligence that has been cited by proponents of the judgment that the pandemic originated with the lab leak.
00:37:52.000 Ben Hu, scientist at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, who had done extensive lab research on how coronaviruses infect humans, was identified in U.S.
00:37:58.000 intelligence reports as one of the researchers who became ill in November 2019 with symptoms that American officials said were consistent with either COVID-19 or a seasonal illness.
00:38:08.000 So there were three workers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology who got sick well before the wet market stuff.
00:38:13.000 The FBI has assessed with moderate confidence that a lab leak was the most likely origin of the virus.
00:38:19.000 So are we going to hold China responsible for any of that?
00:38:21.000 No, of course not.
00:38:22.000 Why would we hold China responsible for anything?
00:38:24.000 I mean, it's not like they're doing other bad things, like, for example, establishing a new joint military base with Cuba.
00:38:30.000 Because that's great.
00:38:31.000 We definitely want Chinese military operations, you know, 90 miles from the American coastline.
00:38:36.000 That's probably okay.
00:38:38.000 According to the Wall Street Journal, China and Cuba are negotiating to establish a new joint military training facility on the island, sparking alarm in Washington.
00:38:44.000 It could lead to the stationing of Chinese troops and other security and intelligence operations just 100 miles off Florida's coast, according to current and former United States officials.
00:38:52.000 Discussions for the facility on Cuba's northern coast are at an advanced stage.
00:38:55.000 They're not concluded, according to U.S.
00:38:56.000 intelligence reports.
00:38:57.000 The White House, of course, is declining to comment because they are too busy plastering their lips to the interior sphincters of the Chinese Communist Party leadership.
00:39:07.000 So, clearly, this country, again, is in the best of hands.
00:39:10.000 Joe Biden's administration, it is a target-rich environment, but we could just continue to talk about, you know, legal cases and all of the rest.
00:39:18.000 So we're gonna do some things I like, but we're gonna start, actually, today with some things that I hate.
00:39:25.000 The story that is just riveting the entire world right now is this insane story about a missing Titanic tourist sub.
00:39:35.000 It is absolutely shocking, and again, the drama is playing out in real time.
00:39:41.000 As of this morning, there were less than 24 hours of oxygen on board the missing Ocean Gate Titan submarine, according to an estimate from the U.S.
00:39:48.000 Coast Guard.
00:39:49.000 So, essentially, there was a very small vessel.
00:39:52.000 It launched a journey on Sunday with 96 hours of oxygen on board to go down to the bottom of the ocean where the Titanic sank and go look at the ruins of the Titanic.
00:40:02.000 And then, the thing...
00:40:05.000 Basically just went missing.
00:40:06.000 It went missing and it never emerged.
00:40:09.000 The passengers have been identified as the OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush, a French mariner named Paul-Henri Nargiolet, British businessman and explorer Hamish Harding, Pakistani businessman Shahzada Dawood, and his son Suleyman Dawood.
00:40:21.000 Apparently it's a five-person submersible.
00:40:23.000 It weighs 20,000 pounds and it is capable of diving 13,120 feet.
00:40:29.000 Apparently Canadian aircraft have been deployed to try and find this thing.
00:40:32.000 They're searching an area the size of Connecticut.
00:40:34.000 They picked up underwater noises in the search area, and they have now deployed resources to try to rescue this submarine.
00:40:43.000 Three C-17 aircraft, according to the Daily Wire, from the U.S.
00:40:45.000 Air Force reportedly landed at a cargo terminal in St.
00:40:48.000 John's, Newfoundland, carrying unmanned vehicles capable of going 19,000 feet underwater, as well as two heavy-duty Hyundai Winches, emblazoned 6,000-kilogram line pull, a huge roll of cable, two large machines that had high voltage on their sides.
00:40:59.000 The equipment was then taken to a port where a ship dubbed the Horizon Arctic was scheduled to leave at midnight, although the journey to the area where Titan is submerged would take fully 15 hours.
00:41:08.000 The Titan may be as deep as 12,000 feet below the surface and weighs apparently 10,432 kilograms, so both winches would be necessary to pull it out.
00:41:16.000 Apparently, late on Tuesday night, banging sounds were reported coming in 30-minute intervals near where the Titan went missing with its passengers.
00:41:24.000 The fact that people got on this rickety craft in the first place is rather astonishing.
00:41:31.000 There's a video a few years ago of the Ocean Gate CEO trying to explain this submersible.
00:41:36.000 Suffice it to say that it basically looks like somebody took a water heater and a Nintendo joystick and some Christmas lights and riveted all that crap together and was like, what if we just dump you 13,000 feet under the water?
00:41:50.000 It really is quite frightening stuff.
00:41:51.000 Here's some background on the dumb submersible.
00:41:54.000 Hi, my name is Stockton Rush.
00:41:55.000 I'm the CEO and founder of Oceangate.
00:41:57.000 Let's take a look at Titan.
00:42:01.000 So we're coming into the sub.
00:42:03.000 This is the only toilet available on a deep-diving submersible.
00:42:08.000 Best seat in the house.
00:42:08.000 You can look out the viewport.
00:42:10.000 We put a privacy screen in, turn up the music, and it's very popular.
00:42:15.000 It's a popular toilet, guys.
00:42:16.000 We have our control screen here, our sonar screen here, and we can put any image we want in the back.
00:42:21.000 We've taken a completely new approach to the sub-design, and it's all run with this game controller and these touchscreens.
00:42:27.000 So if you want to go forward, you press forward.
00:42:29.000 If you want to go back, you go back.
00:42:31.000 Turn left, turn right, go down, go up.
00:42:33.000 And it's Bluetooth, so I can hand it to anybody.
00:42:36.000 And it's meant for a 16-year-old to throw it around, and it's super durable.
00:42:39.000 We keep a couple of spares on board, just in case.
00:42:42.000 Well, it's the second year we've been out to the Titanic.
00:42:45.000 We went out in five eight-day missions.
00:42:48.000 We did about ten dives to the wreck site of the Titanic, and we did an extra dive on an undiscovered reef that we found.
00:42:56.000 I mean, look at this thing.
00:42:57.000 He made it with, like, duct tape.
00:42:59.000 He, like, took a garden hose and hooked it up to, like, a bathtub.
00:43:07.000 Okay, so, um, so yeah.
00:43:09.000 People paid, apparently, $250,000 a pop to go out in this thing.
00:43:13.000 Um, that is, um, some bad judgment, because a lot of the former guests in the submersible, they're like, yeah, it turns out that when you hook up a bunch of garden hoses, To a water heater and then grab a Nintendo 64 joystick and use it to control this jerry-rigged thing and the great feature of it is that it has a poop hole where we have a screen and some music.
00:43:37.000 It turns out that that sucks and you don't really want to be in it and you might die.
00:43:41.000 Here are some of the guests talking about it.
00:43:44.000 When we went down, there were communication problems on every trip I've taken of the four separate dives I've taken with Ocean Gate.
00:43:55.000 Every time, there was a problem with at least, you know, sporadically communicating with the surface.
00:44:02.000 Before we went, we had never seen the sub.
00:44:05.000 We didn't know anything about it.
00:44:06.000 There's very little information on the website.
00:44:09.000 I didn't know at that point that the that you drive the thing with an Xbox game controller.
00:44:14.000 I didn't know that the ballast was, you know, used construction pipes.
00:44:19.000 And then you get the tour and Stockton Rush, the designer of the sub, the CEO,
00:44:25.000 explains to you that all of this stuff, the lights and the handles and the propellers,
00:44:30.000 these are off the shelf parts.
00:44:32.000 He like went to Home Depot and he made a thing.
00:44:38.000 Now, the question is why people were like, OK, well, I'm going to do it now.
00:44:41.000 One of the reasons is because there's a weird thing that happens in markets where when you price things high enough, people think that they must be good.
00:44:47.000 What is an actual thing?
00:44:48.000 It's why brands, like brand names, big brand names, Gucci, they'll price things really, really high.
00:44:53.000 Versace, they'll price things really high just so that you think that it's like worth a lot of money.
00:44:59.000 Because we just have a built-in bias that because competition has made free markets so efficient, if something is worth a lot of money, it must be worth a lot of money.
00:45:06.000 And so he was charging like a quarter million dollars per person to go down there.
00:45:10.000 So people probably go, ah, the guy is charging a quarter million dollars.
00:45:13.000 It must be pretty sick.
00:45:13.000 Wrong!
00:45:15.000 Wrong, it turns out not.
00:45:17.000 It also turns out that the strictures of DEI have apparently bled down to even the dumbest levels.
00:45:22.000 So, DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion, apparently it even has applied down to, like, the level of, what if we build a toothpaste tube and combine it with a bunch of hoses from your shower?
00:45:39.000 And they're like, yeah, well, white people won't do it, so that'll make it awesome.
00:45:43.000 Yes, I mean, when I started the business, one of the things you'll find, there are other sub-operators out there, but they typically have gentlemen who are ex-military submariners, and you'll see a whole bunch of 50-year-old white guys.
00:45:57.000 I wanted our team to be younger, to be inspirational, and I'm not going to inspire a 16-year-old to go pursue marine technology, but a 25-year-old who's a sub-pilot or or a platform operator, one of our techs,
00:46:12.000 can be inspirational.
00:46:13.000 So we've really tried to get very intelligent, motivated, younger individuals involved
00:46:20.000 because we're doing things that are completely new.
00:46:23.000 No more 50-year-old white guys.
00:46:26.000 I mean, sure, a bunch of 50-year-old white guys are the people who can afford to pay me
00:46:29.000 a quarter million dollars to go down in my crappy submersible.
00:46:32.000 But yeah, what we need is more diversity.
00:46:35.000 All our diversity is our strength.
00:46:36.000 Strikes again.
00:46:37.000 Okay, so all of this is, it's hard to comment about it because we actually, at the time that we are talking about this, don't know the outcome of all this.
00:46:44.000 So it could be just horrifically tragic.
00:46:46.000 It's hard to think of a worse way to die than 13,000 feet below sea level.
00:46:51.000 Underwater and suffocating to death in a submersible.
00:46:54.000 That sounds like a horrible way to go.
00:46:56.000 Or it could be one of the great rescue stories ever.
00:46:59.000 That somehow this thing was located and dragged back to the surface.
00:47:03.000 It is not openable from the inside.
00:47:04.000 Apparently, even if they grab the thing, it still takes time to tow it to the surface.
00:47:08.000 And so they're gonna then have to open it from the outside.
00:47:10.000 It's actually bolted closed from the outside.
00:47:14.000 It's all, you know, quite terrifying.
00:47:17.000 One thing that is worth noting here is the amount of effort, time, and money that's going to be put into saving this submersible is not even remotely, it's not even remotely the kind of effort that anyone is putting into, I don't know, saving people who are trying to float themselves off the coast of a communist hellhole like Cuba to the coast of Florida.
00:47:32.000 If we're going to devote this kind of resources to saving a bunch of billionaires who are below the waves because they put themselves there in harm's way in order to view a ship that we know sank a hundred years ago and which there is already excellent footage of because James Cameron has taken that footage actually.
00:47:49.000 If we're going to do that, I feel like we should spend at least an equivalent amount of money to save people who are attempting to escape some of the worst situations on planet Earth and make their way to freedom.
00:47:59.000 Maybe that's just me.
00:48:00.000 I know there's some people out there who are, you know, admiring of the people who have decided to make this journey down to see the Titanic.
00:48:06.000 To me, this is not quite on the order of advancing science.
00:48:10.000 And there are certain acts of exploration that advance science.
00:48:12.000 going up into space, paving the way for making space more more visitable or habitable,
00:48:19.000 or making scientific gains, that is one thing. Taking a submersible down to see a ship that
00:48:25.000 sank a hundred years ago and doing so then in a way that in no way advances science. Again,
00:48:31.000 I'm not, people can use their money how they want and if this is how people want to use their money
00:48:35.000 they're more than welcome to do it. I just, the kind of, I've seen some people, including my
00:48:40.000 my friend Matt Walsh would be like, this is the spirit of exploration.
00:48:43.000 Seeing cool things at close proximity, I like it also, but this is no more the spirit of exploration than somebody who pays for a very expensive safari in Africa, right?
00:48:52.000 It's tourism.
00:48:53.000 It's tourism.
00:48:54.000 It's not breaking any new boundaries here.
00:48:57.000 So, yeah, that does not, again, speak to the tragedy of what could occur here.
00:49:03.000 And obviously, the HBO documentary and all this is going to be riveting.
00:49:07.000 But, frightening and creepy stuff.
00:49:09.000 And also, folks, check out the machinery that you are using before you get into it, would be my recommendation.
00:49:17.000 Okay, meanwhile, one other thing that I hate.
00:49:19.000 So, there is this horrific, another horrific terrorist attack in Israel.
00:49:24.000 The Palestinian Authority, Hamas, the Islamic Jihad, many of these entities funded by Iran, they have been ratcheting up the amount of violence in Israel, in the Gaza Strip, in Judea and Samaria.
00:49:34.000 Particularly in Judea and Samaria, violence has gotten really, really extreme because, essentially, terrorist populations have now been activated by Iran In an attempt to bring down the current government of the state of Israel and exert pressure in order to continue to create fissures inside the state of Israel.
00:49:49.000 Four Israelis were murdered, another four were wounded in a shooting attack by two terrorists at a gas station outside of the Judean settlement of Eli on Tuesday afternoon.
00:49:58.000 I've been in that area.
00:49:59.000 It's an amazing area.
00:50:00.000 It's actually very, very close to Shiloh, which is the site of the tabernacle for 400 years in the Bible.
00:50:06.000 One of the victims was 18, another was 21, another was 63, and a fourth was 17.
00:50:11.000 The two terrorists just walked into a restaurant and started shooting people.
00:50:14.000 And naturally, the media did what they do, which is they covered this as a cycle of violence issue.
00:50:19.000 Because Israel has been conducting anti-terror operations, you know, killing actual terrorists who are involved with killing civilians, in Jenin, which is a terrorist hotbed, unfortunately.
00:50:28.000 It's a major Palestinian city, Palestinian Arab city, and there are a lot of terrorists who live there and plan there, and it's their base of operations.
00:50:35.000 A tweet from U.S.
00:50:36.000 Ambassador to Israel Tom Nides drew an equivalence between the two, like a person walking into a restaurant murdering people, a terrorist, and the Israeli military killing terrorists.
00:50:44.000 Apparently those are the same thing.
00:50:46.000 Nides tweeted, quote, deeply concerned about the civilian deaths and injuries that have
00:50:49.000 occurred in the West Bank these past 48 hours, including that of minors. That's absurd.
00:50:54.000 That is not the same thing at all.
00:50:56.000 That is the equivalent of after 9-11 and the United States strikes back at the Taliban, suggesting that after a bunch of Taliban people are killed, that it's a cycle of violence because after all, Americans were killed and Taliban people were killed, cycle of violence kind of stuff.
00:51:09.000 It's really gross.
00:51:10.000 That brings me to the thing that I like.
00:51:12.000 The thing that I like today is a book that is largely on topics like this called People Love Dead Jews by Dara Horn.
00:51:18.000 Dara Horn is a really, she's an excellent writer.
00:51:21.000 The basic premise of the book is that when it comes to discussions of anti-Semitism, people love talking about the Holocaust because it is a one-off.
00:51:30.000 Because if something isn't the Holocaust, well then it isn't the Holocaust.
00:51:33.000 When Jews get murdered by people who hate Jews in Judea for the great crime of living in Judea or Shomron or in Samaria, In the historic Jewish, most Jewish part of the Jewish homeland.
00:51:44.000 That if they, if those Jews are just getting murdered by people who are effectively modern-day Nazis, that's not a big deal because it's not the Holocaust.
00:51:51.000 So in other words, we get to talk about Jewish victimization of the past, but the minute you talk about Jewish victimization in the present, everybody starts to get a little bit upset and annoyed.
00:51:59.000 Because after all, Jews do really well economically speaking, Jews in the United States, people like me, are very successful, thank God, and thanks to the graces of the United States, and all that is 100% true.
00:52:07.000 It also happens to be true That antisemitism never went away.
00:52:11.000 It continues to this day.
00:52:12.000 Its most virulent form is taking place in Israel by the Palestinian Authority, Islamic Jihad, and Hamas.
00:52:18.000 It is obvious.
00:52:19.000 And the attempt to draw moral equivalence is yet another modern-day way of avoiding the realities of antisemitism, which are an everyday occurrence across the world.
00:52:29.000 Instead, we sort of pretend that they don't exist, and then we focus in on, quote-unquote, universalizing the message of the Holocaust.
00:52:34.000 So, the point that Dara Horne makes, for example, that everybody loves the diary of Anne Frank, because it talks about how she believes people are fundamentally good, and it makes people feel very good about themselves.
00:52:42.000 But the whole story of Anne Frank's diary is that people are fundamentally not good.
00:52:45.000 That actually, she learned, just like most people learn at some point, that people are not fundamentally good, that most people are cowards, that most people are capable of participating in acts of evil, and that makes people uncomfortable.
00:52:57.000 So, when people discuss antisemitism, they like talking about antisemitism of the past because it means that they don't have to talk about the things that are happening in the here and in the now.
00:53:05.000 And none of that is to, again, disparage the fact that Jews have it better on planet Earth right now than they have at any time since probably the Davidic Kingdom.
00:53:12.000 It is to point out that antisemitism is a real and ongoing problem.
00:53:16.000 And not only is it a real and ongoing problem, people are being murdered for the crime of living as Jews in the historic Jewish homeland right now.
00:53:22.000 And everybody doesn't want to look directly at that because if they do, they might actually have to face up to the fact that antisemitism is a real and continuing problem that should not be backed with moral equivalent nonsense from the American administration.
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