The Ben Shapiro Show - September 12, 2018


Is Rhetoric Dangerous? | Ep. 620


Episode Stats

Length

56 minutes

Words per Minute

201.85338

Word Count

11,472

Sentence Count

780

Misogynist Sentences

18

Hate Speech Sentences

21


Summary

A violent political attack shocks the nation, Joe Scarborough compares President Trump to 9/11 terrorists, and the Washington Post blames President Trump for a hurricane? Ben Shapiro returns to the show to discuss it all. He also talks about a recent attack on a Republican congressional candidate in the Bay Area, an attack that could have been prevented if the two parties were reversed, and calls for the left to do their job and stand up to the violence coming from the far-left. And, of course, there's still time to catch up on the latest news from the past week, including the death of Rep. Steve Scalise, the shooting of a congressional baseball player, and an attack on an anti-Trump Bernie Sanders supporter at a fall festival in the Castro Valley, California, on Sept. 9th, which was a day after a man was arrested for allegedly attempting to stab a GOP congressional candidate with a switchblade. And, a domestic terror group has allegedly threatened to shoot up a Make America Great Again event in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday, according to a Daily Wire story from yesterday, by a supporter of the Democratic Socialists of America (D.C. social media account called "Make Great America Again.") According to the Daily Wire, the account used a photo of a MAGA hat with the name "ROSE" on it, which could be a reference to the group's logo. The White House has launched an investigation into the threat, and a tweet about it on its account, which has been deleted since it was deleted from its account. . All of which is not only makes me think of the left-wing pundit Cass Cassie Fairbanks, but also of the right wing pundit Cassandra Fairbanks' account with a picture of a red rose emoji and a black and white arrow pointing to a red heart emoji, which would make me think, "Roses are Red." What's the deal with that? . . . and the fact that the White House isn't paying attention to what's going on, you know what? It's a good one, right? ? Welcome back to the Ben Shapiro Show! - The Ben Shapiro's old radio show on his new podcast, The Ben's back from his long absence. - Ben Shapiro is back, and he's back on the airwaves, safe, safe and sound, and ready to talk about it all!


Transcript

00:00:00.000 A violent political attack shocks the nation, Joe Scarborough compares President Trump to 9-11 terrorists, and the Washington Post blames President Trump for a hurricane.
00:00:08.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:00:08.000 This is the Ben Shapiro Show.
00:00:15.000 Well, glad to be back, saving the world once again from the steaming pile that is Michael Knowles, who apparently took over my radio show for a couple of days in my absence.
00:00:22.000 I just cannot believe that such things happen while I am gone.
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00:01:34.000 We begin today with a violent attack that, if the parties had been reversed, would be national news on every major channel.
00:01:40.000 Instead, it was sort of news inside the conservative ecosystem.
00:01:43.000 Here is the story.
00:01:44.000 According to CBS San Francisco, a man was arrested on suspicion of felony assault and other charges after allegedly attempting to stab a Republican congressional candidate with a switchblade over the weekend in Castro Valley, according to the Alameda County Sheriff's Office.
00:01:58.000 On Sunday, September 9th, at approximately 3.45pm, deputies working at the Castro Valley Fall Festival were alerted to a possible knife attack at one of the vendor booths.
00:02:07.000 Deputies arrived at the booth and made contact with the victim, Republican candidate Rudy Peters, who is running against incumbent Eric Swalwell for the 15th congressional district seat.
00:02:15.000 The Castro Valley News first reported on the attack.
00:02:18.000 According to witnesses, 35-year-old Castro Valley resident Farzad Fazeli,
00:02:22.000 Now, this isn't national news.
00:02:23.000 It's regional news, and the reason it's regional news is because the guy was cursing about Trump.
00:02:26.000 If this had been an acolyte of President Trump,
00:02:50.000 Who is instead attacking a Democrat or a member of the media.
00:02:54.000 This would be national news because then we'd have a national conversation about the extent to which rhetoric on the left is generating violence.
00:03:01.000 And there are some folks on the right who are qualified to speak on this.
00:03:03.000 For example, Representative Steve Scalise, the House Majority Whip.
00:03:06.000 Steve Scalise, you will recall, was shot nearly to death in a congressional baseball attack.
00:03:11.000 They were there playing baseball, a bunch of Congress people, and an anti-Trump Bernie Sanders supporter walked up
00:03:18.000 We're good to go.
00:03:41.000 You've got some people on the left that just want this idea of resist and ignore the fact Trump is president.
00:03:45.000 They want to interrupt the ability of Congress to do its job.
00:03:48.000 And of course, you've got death threats and literal attacks on lives.
00:03:50.000 And frankly, I want to see the left stand up to this.
00:03:52.000 And of course, Scalise should know, and Scalise is right.
00:03:55.000 And this is not the only evidence of violence and violent threats coming from folks on the left.
00:04:00.000 Again, in the media, all you hear is people on the right have grown increasingly violent thanks to President Trump's rhetoric and the escalated rhetoric of recent years.
00:04:08.000 You never hear this about folks on the left, even as mainstream anchors like Chris Cuomo on CNN defend Antifa, an actual violent domestic terror group.
00:04:15.000 Here's another story from yesterday.
00:04:17.000 According to Ryan Saavedra over at Daily Wire, a supporter of the Democratic Socialists of America has reportedly threatened to shoot up a Make America Great Again event at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C.
00:04:27.000 Law enforcement officials with the Metropolitan Police Department have opened up an investigation in response to the threat, which was posted to Twitter on Tuesday, according to the Daily Mail.
00:04:36.000 The Twitter account wrote to right-wing pundit Cassandra Fairbanks, I'm coming with a gun and I expect to get numerous bloodstained MAGA hats as trophies.
00:04:42.000 The account used the DSA logo as its profile photo, added an emoji of a rose to its name, which is common among DSA supporters, and shortly after the threat was posted, the owner of the account changed their Twitter handle as well.
00:04:53.000 So that's another story of left-wing threats to violence.
00:04:56.000 Here's another one.
00:04:58.000 A Republican party office in Laramie, Wyoming caught fire early Thursday morning just days after it opened, the Daily Caller News Foundation learned.
00:05:05.000 This is a bit of an older story, this one is from September 6th.
00:05:08.000 The fire appears to have been set intentionally, according to Laramie Police Department spokesman Steve Morgan.
00:05:13.000 The local police department is cooperating with the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms in the ongoing investigation, according to Morgan, adding that authorities have not yet identified a suspect or a motive for the fire.
00:05:24.000 That's not a major shock.
00:05:25.000 There have been attacks on Republican party offices for the past several years, actually.
00:05:30.000 For the last couple of years, there have been attacks on Republican party offices.
00:05:33.000 And again, the motive of the person who is engaging in the attack seems to be the only thing that the media definitely care about.
00:05:41.000 If the person is motivated by pro-Trump animus, then that person gets all sorts of press.
00:05:45.000 If the person is motivated by anti-Trump, anti-right-wing animus, then the person gets no press at all.
00:05:50.000 If it turns out the person was a racist lunatic,
00:05:54.000 Then it's a major story.
00:05:56.000 If it turns out the person was a left-wing environmentalist lunatic, then the story gets virtually no coverage.
00:06:02.000 And the reason for this is because while the left does not, in most cases, in the vast majority of cases, agree with violent rhetoric, the left does agree with pretty extreme rhetoric about the right that they would never tolerate from folks on the right.
00:06:14.000 And I speak today specifically of a column by Joe Scarborough.
00:06:17.000 So Joe Scarborough yesterday put out a piece in the Washington Post
00:06:21.000 In which he suggested that President Trump is harming the dream of America more than any foreign adversary ever could.
00:06:27.000 His contention is that Trump is basically worse for America than 9-11.
00:06:31.000 That is his contention.
00:06:32.000 Now, again, is Joe Scarborough responsible for violence against pro-Trump people?
00:06:36.000 No, he's not.
00:06:37.000 I have a very simple rule and I've held this rule consistently since long before Trump was president.
00:06:41.000 I held it with regard to Barack Obama.
00:06:43.000 If you're not overtly calling for violence, you're not responsible for violence on behalf of people who quote-unquote agree with you.
00:06:50.000 Because then, it's going to be very easy to malign mainstream political opinions because there are a lot of folks who are crazy who agree with mainstream political commentators.
00:06:58.000 So instead, what I've said, and I think this is the relevant gauge, is that you're only held responsible for the violence of people who take you up on your offer of violence or on your urging of violence.
00:07:08.000 Then we can fairly say that rhetoric was involved in violence.
00:07:12.000 It is true, however, that as we raise the temperature in the country, as we raise the temperature on the rhetoric, there are people who are on the fringe, and those people are more likely to be activated by the extreme feeling that they are getting from the nature of today's politics.
00:07:25.000 Think of politics like ripples in a pond, and the epicenter of those ripples, the very center of those ripples, when you throw the rock in the pond, that's a political event.
00:07:36.000 And as the ripples move out, they encompass a larger and larger group of people and a more and more fringe group of people.
00:07:44.000 So if politics are now reaching a more fringe group of people and making those people more apt to feel extreme, more apt to engage in violence, then that's something we ought to be watching.
00:07:54.000 It's one of the reasons we ought to be taking the temperature down at least a little bit.
00:07:58.000 Here's Joe Scarborough, though, encouraging at least this sort of extremism and rhetoric.
00:08:03.000 Again, this is a guy who it is worthwhile to recall.
00:08:06.000 Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski and MSNBC spent months pumping President Trump.
00:08:11.000 Months pumping President Trump.
00:08:12.000 Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski had him on the show.
00:08:15.000 They sat with him during the primaries.
00:08:17.000 They kept talking about what a great guy he was.
00:08:18.000 They enjoyed the ratings boost that they got from hanging out with President Trump.
00:08:21.000 Now, of course, President Trump is the worst thing since
00:08:24.000 Since New Coke.
00:08:26.000 Here's Joe Scarborough explaining why the President of the United States is worse than 9-11.
00:08:30.000 Here's what he said.
00:08:30.000 He said,
00:08:42.000 Who could have imagined during their commute home on the night of November 21st, 1963, that an event in Dallas the next day would shake the post-war order guaranteed by America's victory in World War II?
00:08:52.000 Even after Lee Harvey Oswald's shots rang out from the Texas school book depository, could anyone have foreseen the collapse of such an ordered age soon overtaken by the anarchy of Vietnam, the murders of the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr.
00:09:03.000 and Bobby Kennedy, the race riot Chicago-Kent State Watergate post-industrial rot, and the cultural chaos set loose across the country by these events?
00:09:10.000 And then he goes on to talk about
00:09:29.000 The United States deploying its various resources and how the various parties dealt with 9-11.
00:09:36.000 But then he gets to President Trump.
00:09:37.000 And here's what he says.
00:09:38.000 First of all, that's a lie.
00:09:46.000 The reason that we actually have a $1 trillion deficit every year is because of social programs.
00:09:50.000 It is not because of war.
00:09:51.000 The reason that we have a massive, massive deficit is not because of the war.
00:09:54.000 It is because of Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, which constitute somewhere on the order of 66% of the federal budget each and every year in mandatory spending.
00:10:01.000 But Scarborough then continues, President Trump's Republican Party will create more debt in one year than was generated in the first 200 years of America's existence.
00:10:09.000 And it's always fun to watch as people who didn't care all that much about Barack Obama's debts suddenly care about Donald Trump's debts, and vice versa, by the way.
00:10:16.000 Republicans don't care about debt anymore.
00:10:17.000 They used to care about debt an awful lot.
00:10:19.000 But the part that's really astonishing about this Scarborough column is when he gets to the end.
00:10:24.000 He says, For those of us still believing that Islamic extremists hate America because of the freedoms we guarantee to people, the gravest threat Trump poses to our national security is the damage done daily to America's image.
00:10:35.000 As the New York Times' Roger Cohen wrote the month after Trump's election, America is an idea.
00:10:39.000 Strip freedom, human rights, democracy, and the rule of law from what the United States represents to the world, and America itself is gutted.
00:10:45.000 Osama bin Laden was killed by SEAL Team 6 before he accomplished that goal.
00:10:48.000 Other tyrants who tried to do the same were consigned to the ash heap of history.
00:10:51.000 The question for voters this fall is whether their country will move beyond this troubled chapter in history, or whether they will continue supporting a politician who has done more damage to the dream of America than any foreign adversary ever could.
00:11:04.000 So apparently Donald Trump has now done more to damage America than, you know, the murder of 3,000 Americans on 9-11.
00:11:10.000 And the murder of Americans, by the way, aboard the USS Cole.
00:11:13.000 This sort of rhetoric is not particularly helpful.
00:11:15.000 I'll give you another example of this sort of rhetoric in just a second.
00:11:19.000 Donald Trump apparently responsible for every horrible thing that happens in the universe.
00:11:23.000 It's amazing.
00:11:24.000 If the left were to simply restrict their criticism of President Trump to the relevant, if they were simply to say, you know, President Trump, not a supremely competent guy, the people around him may be keeping him on track, but is this somebody who you really want to trust?
00:11:36.000 Is this somebody who you really trust to make the right decisions for you?
00:11:39.000 They'd have a lot better shot at winning back power than they will just screaming to the sky about how President Trump controls everything.
00:11:45.000 And honestly, people on the right who resonate to this and think President Trump does control everything are contributing to a belief that government can solve all of your problems.
00:11:53.000 When you believe that government is the only thing that matters, that government can solve all of your problems, or it causes all of your problems, you're more likely to fall into a pit of extremism and extreme feeling and rhetoric about the government that makes the condition of the country a lot worse rather than better.
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00:13:21.000 Okay, so not only is President Trump worse than 9-11, according to the editorial board at the Washington Post, President Trump is responsible for hurricanes.
00:13:33.000 He rocks you like a hurricane.
00:13:34.000 President Trump...
00:13:36.000 Apparently, through flatulence alone can generate hurricanes.
00:13:39.000 Here is what the Washington Post says.
00:13:40.000 This is their editorial board.
00:13:42.000 But don't worry, they're not generating a feeling of extreme rhetoric with regard to politics in any way, shape, or form.
00:13:48.000 Politics is the be-all, end-all.
00:13:50.000 Here's what they say, quote, Yet again, a massive hurricane feeding off unusually warm ocean water has the potential to stall over heavily populated areas, menacing millions of people.
00:14:00.000 Last year, Hurricane Harvey battered Houston,
00:14:02.000 Now, Hurricane Florence threatens to drench already waterlogged swathes of the East Coast, including the nation's capital.
00:14:07.000 If the Category 4 hurricane does indeed hit the Carolinas this week, it will be the strongest storm on record to land so far north.
00:14:13.000 President Trump issued several warnings on his Twitter feed Monday, counseling those in Florence's projected path to prepare and listen to local officials.
00:14:21.000 That was good advice.
00:14:22.000 Yet, when it comes to extreme weather, Mr. Trump is complicit.
00:14:26.000 He's complicit.
00:14:27.000 Apparently, the hurricane calls up the president, and the president's like, listen, I can't help you out, hurricane, but what I can do is I can keep my mouth shut.
00:14:33.000 I will be complicit in your sins, hurricane.
00:14:36.000 He plays—so it used to be the Democrats blamed the Juden for the weather.
00:14:40.000 We got that from that Democrat crazy person in Washington, D.C.
00:14:44.000 The Jews were responsible for the weather.
00:14:46.000 Now President Trump is controlling the weather.
00:14:48.000 There's this meme on Twitter.
00:14:50.000 Where you say something like, ah, President Trump, I can't believe he just did flips through notebook.
00:14:55.000 And then you land on some random thing, right?
00:14:57.000 So flip through, I can't believe that he's responsible for flips through notebook.
00:15:00.000 Dog abandonment, right?
00:15:02.000 This is, this is that, right?
00:15:04.000 I can't believe President Trump is responsible for flips through notebook.
00:15:07.000 Hurricane.
00:15:08.000 Here's what they say.
00:15:09.000 He plays down humans' role in increasing the risks.
00:15:12.000 He continues to dismantle efforts to address those risks.
00:15:14.000 And now it should be straight.
00:15:15.000 If President Trump signed on to every leftist proposal on global warming today, it would have no impact on hurricanes today.
00:15:22.000 None.
00:15:22.000 So that hurricane would still be a coming down the pike.
00:15:25.000 But they say it is hard to attribute any single weather event to climate change, which is their admission they have no way to actually attribute this hurricane to climate change, but that's not going to stop them.
00:15:33.000 There is no reasonable doubt that humans are priming the Earth's systems to produce disasters.
00:15:38.000 Well, I mean, there's some reasonable doubt about the level to which humans are doing that and the solutions that can be taken with regard to it.
00:15:44.000 In fact, in one second, I'm going to give you all the evidence.
00:15:47.000 But the Washington Post continues.
00:15:48.000 They say, Atmospheric Research, Kevin Trenberth, a climate researcher at the National Center for Atmospheric Research, co-wrote a May paper showing that Harvey's cataclysmic wetness came from the unusual hot Gulf of Mexico water that fed the hurricane before it slammed into Texas.
00:16:03.000 Harvey could not have produced so much rain without human-induced climate change, he and his colleagues concluded.
00:16:10.000 All of which, by the way, drove the president to say that this hurricane was extremely hard and extremely wet, which was very weird.
00:16:16.000 Now Florence is feasting on warm Atlantic Ocean water, says the Washington Post.
00:16:20.000 The ocean is warming up systematically, Mr. Trenberth said, explaining that though natural variation can turn surface temperatures up or down a bit, the ocean's energy content is inexorably rising.
00:16:31.000 It is the strongest signal of global warming, Mr. Trenberth added.
00:16:34.000 It's very weird how everything bad that happens is an effect of global warming.
00:16:40.000 If it's bad snowstorms, it's an effect of global warming.
00:16:42.000 If it's a bad hurricane, it's an effect of global warming.
00:16:43.000 Again, I'm not somebody who believes that humans are not contributing to global warming.
00:16:47.000 I think that humans probably are contributing to global warming by all available evidence.
00:16:50.000 The question is, what is the climate sensitivity?
00:16:53.000 How much are humans contributing to global warming?
00:16:55.000 And what can actually be done about that is maybe the best idea, technological progress, as opposed to cap and trade systems that are actually not going to mitigate the effects of global warming in any serious way.
00:17:07.000 But the Washington Post, nonetheless, blames the president of the United States.
00:17:12.000 They say the Trump administration has now attacked all three pillars of President Barack Obama's climate change plan.
00:17:17.000 Except that when Barack Obama had his plan, the hurricanes were still hitting the United States, so this is quite silly.
00:17:23.000 Also, it is worth noting that hurricanes, major hurricanes in the United States, are at about their average.
00:17:29.000 It's funny, the latest line that you were hearing for a while, what you were hearing from the left was,
00:17:35.000 Then the number of hurricanes is increasing.
00:17:37.000 That's not true.
00:17:37.000 The number of hurricanes is not increasing.
00:17:39.000 Now they say the number of hurricanes is not increasing, but the severity of hurricanes is increasing.
00:17:43.000 So let's look at the stats.
00:17:45.000 According to this guy, James Taylor, who's president of the Spark of Freedom Foundation over at Forbes.com, he actually went through decade by decade to look at the number of major hurricanes hitting the United States.
00:17:55.000 So from 2001 to 2010, seven major hurricanes struck the United States, which is the 100-year average.
00:18:01.000 During the preceding decade, six.
00:18:02.000 During the decade before that, four.
00:18:04.000 Before that, four.
00:18:06.000 And then, from 1961-1970, seven.
00:18:06.000 Okay, from 1951-1969, from 1941-1950, eleven major hurricanes struck the United States.
00:18:09.000 During 1931-1940, eight major hurricanes struck the United States.
00:18:11.000 From 1921-1936, from 1911-1928.
00:18:23.000 So the idea that we are now in the midst of some massive upswing in the number of radical hurricanes hitting the United States, the statistics simply do not bear that out.
00:18:32.000 Now, is that a reason to ignore whatever threats global warming is posing?
00:18:35.000 No, it isn't.
00:18:36.000 But to blame President Trump, who's been in office for a year and a half,
00:18:39.000 For a hurricane hitting is just insane.
00:18:42.000 It's just insane.
00:18:43.000 And of course, most people are only going to read the headline anyway.
00:18:45.000 And the impression they're going to get is that President Trump simply doesn't care about hurricanes or President Trump is somehow forwarding hurricanes or the rest of this sort of silliness.
00:18:55.000 I think it is fair to say that media coverage has gone off the rails.
00:18:59.000 And it's not just with regard to President Trump.
00:19:01.000 It's also with regard to sort of normal Republican candidates.
00:19:05.000 So the latest evidence of this is the Washington Post, again, they're the newspaper of the day, going after Ron DeSantis.
00:19:11.000 So on Sunday, the Washington Post had two Post reporters put together a story that Ron DeSantis spoke at a conservative conference four times between 2007, 2013, and 2017.
00:19:22.000 He spoke at the David Horwitz Freedom Center Conference.
00:19:25.000 And these are usually, they usually take place in Florida.
00:19:28.000 I know this because this is where I met Ron DeSantis.
00:19:30.000 I met Ron DeSantis at this event at the David Horwitz Freedom Center in Florida.
00:19:33.000 According to the Washington Post, this means that Ron DeSantis is no longer fit for office because he spoke four times at conferences organized by a conservative activist who has said that African Americans owe their freedom to white people and that the country's only serious race war is against whites.
00:19:48.000 Okay, so they're going to pick everything that David has ever said that is wild and they're going to now attribute it to Ron DeSantis.
00:19:55.000 As opposed to when Bill Clinton stands next to Louis Farrakhan at Aretha Franklin's funeral and no one has to answer a question about us, now Ron DeSantis goes and speaks at what is by any measure a normal conservative conference with a wide variety of speakers.
00:20:07.000 I mean, we are talking about major politicians in the Republican Party who have shown up there.
00:20:11.000 It's not all people who agree with David.
00:20:13.000 I know.
00:20:14.000 I used to work at the David Horowitz Freedom Center.
00:20:16.000 I was on the board of the David Horowitz Freedom Center.
00:20:19.000 Not everyone who shows up agrees with everything that David Horowitz says.
00:20:22.000 I didn't agree with everything that David Horowitz said.
00:20:24.000 But the Washington Post ran this long story suggesting that because DeSantis had spoken at this event, therefore he agrees with everyone at the event, which is just ridiculous.
00:20:34.000 It's just ridiculous.
00:20:35.000 That's the way the press are going to treat our politics these days.
00:20:38.000 And then they're surprised when it feels like there's a violent upsurge in American politics.
00:20:42.000 Again, they're not responsible for that violent upsurge unless they call for violence.
00:20:45.000 They are responsible for raising the temperature on American rhetoric to a dangerous point.
00:20:51.000 Meanwhile,
00:20:52.000 Norm MacDonald is now in trouble because we can't have any nice things.
00:20:56.000 We'll talk about that in just a second.
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00:22:04.000 So, the culture wars continue in my absence.
00:22:07.000 Norm MacDonald, who's doing the only Netflix special that I'm actually interested in these days, he is now being ripped up and down for an interview that he did in The Hollywood Reporter.
00:22:17.000 He was uninvited from The Tonight Show on NBC, Jimmy Fallon's Tonight Show on NBC.
00:22:21.000 Apparently, you're only allowed to go on NBC if you are either an ardent Democrat or a person who worked for a company that actually covered up for Harvey Weinstein's sexual abuses.
00:22:30.000 If you're one of those, then I guess you can go on Jimmy Fallon's show.
00:22:37.000 But if you express sympathy for Louis C.K.
00:22:40.000 or Roseanne Barr, then you're in serious trouble.
00:22:42.000 Norm Macdonald is now in serious trouble.
00:22:44.000 Why?
00:22:45.000 Because Norm Macdonald happens not to be a radical leftist.
00:22:47.000 So he's talking to The Hollywood Reporter.
00:22:50.000 And he was asked about the emboldening of racism.
00:22:52.000 He said,
00:23:10.000 And the Hollywood Reporter person presses, and swing back toward liberalism, because it's the Hollywood Reporter, and he says, not necessarily.
00:23:17.000 He says, I'm happy the Me Too movement has slowed down a little bit.
00:23:20.000 It used to be 100 women can't be lying, and then it became one woman can't lie, and then it became I believe all women, and then you're like, what?
00:23:25.000 Like that Chris Hardwick guy, I really thought got the blunt end to the stick there.
00:23:28.000 And the Hollywood Reporter said, And Norm Macdonald said,
00:23:51.000 And they ask, who?
00:23:52.000 And here's where he gets himself into trouble.
00:23:53.000 He says, well, Louis CK and Roseanne Barr are two people I know.
00:23:56.000 And Roseanne was so broken up after the show's reboot was canceled, I got Louis to call her, even though Roseanne was very hard on Louis before that.
00:24:02.000 But she was just so broken and just constantly crying.
00:24:05.000 There are very few people that have gone through what they have, losing everything in a day.
00:24:07.000 Of course, people will go, what about the victims?
00:24:09.000 But you know what?
00:24:09.000 The victims didn't have to go through that.
00:24:12.000 And then they asked, you know, what did the two of them talk about?
00:24:15.000 He said they had a good conversation, and he said she's not a racist, everybody knows that she's not a racist, but she shouldn't have tweeted the stuff that she tweeted.
00:24:23.000 He got all sorts of flack, particularly about the Louis C.K.
00:24:25.000 comment, because the implication seems to be that Louis C.K.
00:24:28.000 was innocent of any wrongdoing, when of course Louis C.K.
00:24:31.000 was basically inviting female comedians back to his room and then masturbating in front of them.
00:24:35.000 And then apparently his associates were calling up networks and trying to get them to lose jobs, but there's no actual evidence that Louis C.K.
00:24:43.000 was engaged in that particular activity.
00:24:45.000 Louis C.K.
00:24:46.000 is back, but the left media is not interested in Louis C.K.
00:24:49.000 repairing his image.
00:24:50.000 By the way, if you're Jimmy Fallon and you don't want to have Norm MacDonald on for saying this, you will have Bill Clinton on to talk specifically about essentially being accused of rape, and that's totally fine.
00:25:00.000 You can't ask Norm MacDonald a tough question.
00:25:01.000 That's the part of this that's so crazy.
00:25:04.000 Let's say you disagree with Norm MacDonald here.
00:25:05.000 Let's say you think what he thinks is unreasonable.
00:25:07.000 Why wouldn't you have him on and just ask him about it?
00:25:10.000 The reason is because we live in such a ridiculously censorious society that we have to make sure that people like Norm MacDonald are never heard.
00:25:18.000 He apologized for it and they're still not inviting him on The Tonight Show.
00:25:22.000 Matt Damon made comments about me too.
00:25:24.000 He was welcomed back into civil society.
00:25:27.000 There are no accusations, by the way, that Norm MacDonald has ever participated in any sort of bad activity with regard to women.
00:25:32.000 And yet he's being put on the outs because he expressed sympathy.
00:25:35.000 Sympathy for Roseanne Barr or for Louis C.K., people whose careers have been ruined by allegations.
00:25:40.000 Roseanne Barr's career was ruined because she tweeted out dumb racist crap.
00:25:45.000 But should she be forgiven?
00:25:46.000 I think probably.
00:25:48.000 Louis C.K., should he be forgiven?
00:25:50.000 He seems to have expressed contrition, like, right from the outset, and then he went away for a while.
00:25:54.000 I'm not sure what else you want from him.
00:25:55.000 I mean, you could file a lawsuit.
00:25:56.000 It seems to me that a lot of this... If you really believe you have a lawsuit against Louis C.K., perhaps you should sue him.
00:26:02.000 If you really believe you have credible allegations against Louis C.K., perhaps you should sue him.
00:26:05.000 Perhaps you should take to the court.
00:26:06.000 Because the court of public opinion is a really nasty place, and destroying people's lives and careers based on accusations that you're not willing to back up in court, you're not even willing to try to back up in court, seems like a difficult business to me.
00:26:18.000 It's hard for us to set an objective standard if you're not willing to take this stuff to court.
00:26:22.000 Now, that doesn't mean that I don't believe the allegations about Louis C.K.
00:26:26.000 I tend to believe the allegations about Louis C.K., particularly since he admitted them.
00:26:30.000 But it does mean that we have to have some standard.
00:26:32.000 When Norm Macdonald says there's no standard, I don't think that he's completely wrong.
00:26:35.000 Of course there's no standard here.
00:26:36.000 It's obvious there's no standard here.
00:26:38.000 Okay.
00:26:39.000 Well, meanwhile, I want to talk a little bit about the holiday that, you know, before I get to the holiday that I just celebrated, I also want to talk about Hillary Clinton.
00:26:47.000 So this is an amazing thing.
00:26:48.000 Hillary Clinton
00:26:49.000 And decided that it was necessary to step into the Brett Kavanaugh confirmation hearings while I was away.
00:26:55.000 So she tweeted out this morning,
00:27:08.000 And then she continued by suggesting that Brett Kavanaugh was actually going to overturn Roe v. Wade and he hates abortion and that's really why he said all this.
00:27:17.000 This is a lie.
00:27:18.000 It is a lie that has been debunked multiple times.
00:27:20.000 Senator Kamala Harris trotted out this lie over and over and over again.
00:27:24.000 The Washington Post gave it four Pinocchios.
00:27:26.000 The reason that Brett Kavanaugh referred to abortifacients as abortion-inducing drugs is because they are abortion-inducing drugs and were expressed as such in the Supreme Court decision that he was citing.
00:27:35.000 But Hillary Clinton
00:27:37.000 Again, when it comes to the culture wars, the reason that so many folks are with Norm Macdonald and frustrated and with President Trump is because the left refuses to call out its own.
00:27:54.000 The left refuses to call out Joe Scarborough for saying ridiculous things.
00:27:56.000 The left refuses to call out Hillary Clinton for saying things that are obvious lies.
00:28:01.000 The left refuses
00:28:03.000 To call out Michelle Goldberg, who suggests that Brett Kavanaugh is going to usher in the Handmaid's Court?
00:28:10.000 And then you wonder why the politics are polarized?
00:28:12.000 It's ridiculous.
00:28:13.000 Okay, now I do want to get to what I did over the last couple of days.
00:28:16.000 So I was absent for the last couple of days to celebrate Rosh Hashanah.
00:28:18.000 Rosh Hashanah is the beginning of the Jewish year.
00:28:21.000 So it's the Jewish New Year.
00:28:23.000 And more importantly than being the Jewish New Year, unlike sort of the secular New Year, where you party it up and then you make resolutions for the next year, the Jewish New Year is all about atoning for sin.
00:28:32.000 So we are now in the midst of the High Holy Days, which is typically used to express Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur.
00:28:38.000 I'm about to explain to you why I'm going to be absent for a bunch of days coming up.
00:28:41.000 So this is why.
00:28:42.000 Rosh Hashanah was a two-day holiday that happened Monday, Tuesday.
00:28:45.000 And then a week from today, I will be out again for Yom Kippur.
00:28:48.000 That's the Day of Atonement.
00:28:49.000 That's where you fast all day and you stay in synagogue essentially all day.
00:28:53.000 And you pray for forgiveness, and then God hopefully inscribes you in the Book of Life.
00:28:57.000 And then about five days after that, four days after that, I'm out for another couple of days, and that one is for the holiday of the Festival of Booths, is what it's called in English, called Sukkot in Hebrew.
00:29:07.000 And that is the one where we sit outside in these makeshift booths with poem fronds on top to remind us of when we were sojourning in the desert.
00:29:14.000 And then we conclude with the last couple of days of Sukkot, which is like a week after that.
00:29:20.000 There's a last couple of days.
00:29:21.000 One is concluding day of Sukkot, and the last one is Simchat Torah, which is when we celebrate the completion of the cycle of reading of the Torah.
00:29:28.000 So Jews every week read a portion of the Torah, and then over the course of 50 weeks, we go through the entire Torah, the five books of Moses, and then we celebrate.
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00:30:44.000 Okay, well we are going to discuss
00:30:45.000 A couple of insane articles in the New York Times and the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal, rather, with regard to religion, which is why I'm mentioning Rosh Hashanah.
00:30:53.000 I also want to talk about Serena Williams.
00:30:55.000 I missed that whole controversy while I was out.
00:30:57.000 The world continued while I was out.
00:30:58.000 I just can't believe it.
00:30:59.000 I thought the world was going to stop spinning and then I would be able to come back and pick up where we left off.
00:31:03.000 I'd be able to analyze last Friday's Obama speech.
00:31:05.000 It would have been great fun.
00:31:06.000 Unfortunately, the world kept spinning, so we'll get to all of the latest news in just one second.
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00:32:28.000 So the reason I mention the Jewish holidays is not just to prove to you that I didn't just take days off for the hell of it, but also because we are living in the midst of a sort of religious schism that's happening in the United States and really all across the world with regard to Western religion.
00:32:44.000 There are a lot of folks in the West who believe that religion is what has held back civilization.
00:32:47.000 People like Steven Pinker, people like Sam Harris, people with whom I'm friendly.
00:32:50.000 And a lot of these folks think that religion is the great curse.
00:32:53.000 It's the great blight.
00:32:54.000 That if it hadn't been for religion, we would have reached some sort of secular paradise long ago.
00:32:58.000 Now that ignores the fact that once you get rid of religion and the notion of absolute morality, it's pretty easy to slide into the secular, relativistic morality that leads down the path to gulags and concentration camps.
00:33:09.000 But!
00:33:10.000 The claim is that religion is basically backward, and that's the reason religion is falling apart now.
00:33:14.000 That religion is really falling apart.
00:33:16.000 And what you see is folks on the left who want to maintain some semblance of religion.
00:33:22.000 What they do is they've started to infuse religion with a bunch of secular humanist nonsense.
00:33:28.000 Basically, what they want religion to be is a bunch of secular humanist messaging with some bagels on top if you're Jewish, or with a little bit of wafer and wine if you're Catholic, or if you're Protestant, then with a band, I guess.
00:33:39.000 So here is, there are a couple of pieces specifically about the Jewish holidays in the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal that are pretty astonishing and telling about why this religious schism exists.
00:33:51.000 And before I get to these pieces, I want to explain to you why I think religion is important, because this is one of the questions I get most frequently.
00:33:57.000 I'm an Orthodox Jew, obviously.
00:33:59.000 I wear a yarmulke.
00:34:00.000 I take my religion extraordinarily seriously.
00:34:01.000 And a lot of people say, well, Ben, you know, you're a guy who promotes reason, a guy who promotes facts above feelings.
00:34:06.000 Why do you care about religion so much?
00:34:08.000 Why do you think all of these crazy things like God spoke to people from on top of a mountain and all the rest?
00:34:12.000 Number one, I think that there are real, good, rational explanations for the existence of God.
00:34:18.000 On our Sunday special, a couple of weeks ago, we had on Ed Fazer, who is a professor of a Pasadena City College, who makes some very good secular explanations for why he believes God exists.
00:34:28.000 But the reason, in reality, that I believe in my religion is because I believe the Judeo-Christian civilization is the greatest civilization in the history of the world, and it rests on twin foundations.
00:34:37.000 Those foundations are Jerusalem and Athens, the foundations of Judeo-Christian revelation, the Old Testament, as promulgated to the rest of the world through Christianity as well, and the notion of Greek reason, which provided us the idea that human reason is capable of understanding the cosmos.
00:34:53.000 Without those two ideas, there is no science, there is no Western civilization, there is no liberalism, there is no Western morality.
00:35:00.000 Get rid of those two key ideas, Greek reason and Judeo-Christian morality, and what you end up with is a hedonistic, deterministic society that is not interested in investigating the cosmos, not interested in bettering life, because what does life matter anyway?
00:35:13.000 I think this is one of the reasons that what you're seeing in Europe with the decline of religion is not an upswing in beauty and harmony, but an increase in fracturing, an increase in factionalism, an increase in violence in many cases, the importation of people who are actually having kids, a decrease in the number of children who are being had, economic struggle, the rise of right-wing nationalist groups in a lot of these countries.
00:35:36.000 A lot of that has to do with the European decision to abandon religion long ago.
00:35:41.000 Judaism and Christianity, by extension, provided the world with certain basic truths.
00:35:46.000 Those truths include the idea that human beings are made in God's image, which means that every human being has inherent value.
00:35:51.000 That is not something that you can find from an atheistic source.
00:35:53.000 It isn't.
00:35:54.000 Atheists who say that they believe that, I'm glad they believe that.
00:35:57.000 I'm not saying atheists can't be moral people.
00:35:58.000 They can.
00:35:59.000 I know a lot of atheists who are wonderful, moral people.
00:36:01.000 But atheism is not a philosophy that can explain why every human being has value any more than it can explain why every ant ought to have value.
00:36:10.000 The idea that God cares about human beings and that what you do in the world matters.
00:36:14.000 That's not something atheism can explain because why should what you do in the world matter?
00:36:17.000 You're a ball of meat wandering around without any sort of free will.
00:36:21.000 Which brings us to Greek reason.
00:36:23.000 The Greeks were very focused on the idea that the apotheosis of human achievement was reason.
00:36:28.000 And rationality and using your brain in order to understand the universe.
00:36:31.000 Judaism and Christianity, they suggest that, unlike a lot of pagan philosophies, that the world actually has a systemic order to it, created by a rational God.
00:36:40.000 And when you combine that with the idea that human beings have the capacity to understand their universe, that's how you get the pursuit of science.
00:36:47.000 In other words, religion has eternal truths to tell.
00:36:50.000 Truths that are as valuable today as they ever were.
00:36:53.000 And yet what you are seeing is an abandonment of traditional religion, an abandonment of the synagogues and the churches, and an attempt to backfill those synagogues and churches with a bunch of secular, humanist nonsense that is not going to bring anybody there.
00:37:06.000 So, here's a piece from the Wall Street Journal today.
00:37:09.000 It's called, it's by a woman named Shane D. Race, who I actually knew back when I was at Harvard Law.
00:37:14.000 She is certainly of the left.
00:37:16.000 She used to be more Orthodox, I believe.
00:37:17.000 I'm not sure she is anymore.
00:37:18.000 Anyway, the piece is called, Goat Yoga, Mosh Pits, Glow Sticks, Younger Jews Reinvent Yom Kippur.
00:37:25.000 Now, it's important to recognize here, Yom Kippur is the most solemn day on the Jewish calendar.
00:37:29.000 You fast for 25 hours, you are praying for nearly that entire time.
00:37:33.000 It is extraordinarily spiritual.
00:37:35.000 But instead, because they can't get
00:37:38.000 Non-affiliated Jews into their conservative reform synagogues, all these people are trying these weird things.
00:37:43.000 So, here is what the article says.
00:37:45.000 For 2,000 years, Jews have spent Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, in a synagogue, abstaining from food and drink, fervently praying and beseeching God to forgive their sins.
00:37:53.000 This year, some rabbis, eager to woo younger people to high holiday services, are holding programs in a beer garden, replacing deep reverential bows with goat yoga, and celebrating the end of the season with glow sticks in a mosh pit.
00:38:06.000 Rabbi Dan Ayn, who started Rosh Hashanah service called Bol Hashanah at the Brooklyn Bowl, a music venue and bowling alley in Williamsburg, New York, says, for the millennial generation, walking into a synagogue can feel like a Civil War reenactment.
00:38:18.000 He said, Rabbi Avi Shafran, who actually does public affairs for Agudat Yisrael in New York, which is an Orthodox group, he says, it's a solemn time of year to dispense with the solemnity is to do violence to the very essence of the days, which is, of course, true.
00:38:31.000 Traditionalist to sales, Rabbi Aaron Podek,
00:38:33.000 who held a Yom Kippur program at a Washington, D.C.
00:38:35.000 beer garden last year.
00:38:36.000 While no food or beer was served, he said fasting wasn't required of attendees.
00:38:39.000 He said he felt validated when he packed the beer garden with 140 people and had a waiting list of 70 more.
00:38:44.000 There was no prayer.
00:38:45.000 Instead, attendees discussed themes of Yom Kippur, such as mortality, repentance, and the meaning of life.
00:38:50.000 Rabbi Potek says,
00:38:57.000 No, what he means is that Jews who are unaffiliated and aren't interested in leading a Jewish lifestyle are looking for something to connect them back to eternal values and they're not going to find it in beer gardens.
00:39:05.000 They're not going to find it in beer gardens.
00:39:06.000 Because I'm going to explain to you some statistics about religion in the United States in a second that demonstrates that this attempt by Jews, Catholics, Protestants to run away from traditional religion is actually killing their religious conviction.
00:39:17.000 Now, so here are some of these statistics, because, again, the Wall Street Journal is pushing goat yoga, and the New York Times is pushing a piece called Celebrating Rosh Hashanah with Less Oy, More Joy, and a Bit of Gospel.
00:39:28.000 It's a long feature piece on Rabbi Perry Berkowitz, who, along with his sister, Rabbi Leah Berkowitz, runs East Side Synagogue, an unconventional congregation on the Upper East Side of Manhattan.
00:39:38.000 What exactly do they do?
00:39:40.000 Well, the services are freewheeling, rollicking affairs that have the feel of a gospel church.
00:39:43.000 They give evangelical-type sermons.
00:39:45.000 My favorite part of this is where they explain what exactly they do here.
00:39:48.000 They talk about how they...
00:40:04.000 They say, oi.
00:40:06.000 He says, here it is.
00:40:08.000 Rabbi Perry Berkowitz told congregants that someone asked why God permitted rain on Rosh Hashanah.
00:40:12.000 They said, don't you have a connection upstairs?
00:40:13.000 The rabbi recounted.
00:40:14.000 I said, sorry, I'm in sales, not management.
00:40:16.000 He urged the congregation to wipe away any negative associations from the past year and to start the new year, not with oi, but with joy.
00:40:23.000 He told them to exhale and let go of all the ois of the past year.
00:40:26.000 Everyone let out a collective oi, he directed them.
00:40:28.000 One, two, three, oi.
00:40:29.000 A spirited oi resounded in the worship space.
00:40:34.000 Ooh, so great.
00:40:38.000 He also says, Yes, this is exactly what people are looking for out of religion.
00:40:47.000 Now, here are some statistics.
00:40:48.000 Because there are a bunch of people, left and right, a bunch of people left and right, who keep suggesting over and over, the only way for religion to survive is for religion to change with the times.
00:40:57.000 Religion has to not just apply eternal lessons to new evidence, which I think is a good argument,
00:41:03.000 But to change the religion utterly, get rid of fundamental conceits about the nature of human beings, get rid of fundamental ideas about the nature of morality and God, and instead basically Judaism, Christianity, these should just bow to the secular idolatry that is being promoted by a lot of folks on the secular left.
00:41:20.000 Synagogues should become places where all you do is talk about Black Lives Matter and homophobia.
00:41:24.000 It's a DNC meeting center, except it's got a Jewish star at the front or a cross at the front.
00:41:28.000 There's only one problem with this.
00:41:30.000 It doesn't work.
00:41:31.000 It doesn't work at all.
00:41:31.000 I mean, there are two problems.
00:41:32.000 One, you're getting rid of fundamental values.
00:41:34.000 But second, there is no actual draw to this.
00:41:37.000 Statistics show that these churches are not holding anyone.
00:41:40.000 They're not holding anyone.
00:41:42.000 Hey, I can tell you something.
00:41:43.000 At my synagogue yesterday, which is a small shtiebel.
00:41:45.000 It's a small synagogue.
00:41:47.000 It was packed to the gills yesterday, it's packed to the gills every Sabbath, and it is filled with young people.
00:41:52.000 The average age of Orthodox Jews in the United States, the most observant group of Jews in the United States, is 40.
00:41:57.000 The average age of Jews across the United States who are not Orthodox is 52.
00:42:01.000 Orthodox Jews are significantly younger than non-Orthodox Jews.
00:42:04.000 Orthodox Jews have significantly more kids than non-Orthodox Jews.
00:42:07.000 They average over four children a family.
00:42:09.000 Non-Orthodox Jews average less than twos.
00:42:11.000 They're below replacement rates.
00:42:12.000 The same thing is true in the evangelical community.
00:42:15.000 People look at polls and they say, oh well, the level of people going to church in Protestant America is declining.
00:42:21.000 Mainline Protestantism is declining.
00:42:23.000 Evangelical Protestantism has gained.
00:42:26.000 All the people who used to go to mainline Protestant churches are either becoming unaffiliated or they're moving over to evangelical churches.
00:42:31.000 In the Catholic church, you're seeing the same thing.
00:42:33.000 All of these Catholic churches that you drive by and they have the rainbow flag waving out front because it's a new diverse Catholic church or whatever.
00:42:41.000 A lot of those Catholic churches are empty.
00:42:43.000 The ones that are still full are the ones that still care about what are considered fundamental values.
00:42:49.000 The reason people care about religion, the reason people are willing to sacrifice for religion, is because they feel there's an eternal value to religion.
00:42:55.000 And there is an eternal value to religion.
00:42:57.000 And it is maddening to watch as the media who hate religion, top to bottom, start promoting this idea that religion can simply be saved as long as it parrots the talking points of Hillary Clinton.
00:43:07.000 That's not what's going to save religion.
00:43:09.000 The only thing that's going to save religion, and by extension, in my view, Western civilization, is a return to a social fabric that matters.
00:43:16.000 A return to eternal, fundamental values that bring us together.
00:43:19.000 It's really interesting.
00:43:20.000 Robert Putnam, who's a liberal sociologist,
00:43:24.000 I don't know.
00:43:39.000 If you go to a church where everybody believes essentially the same things about the nature of man, about the necessity to care for your neighbor, then diversity helps.
00:43:48.000 Then you see diversity across the aisle, but with a common set of principles.
00:43:51.000 America is losing a common set of principles.
00:43:53.000 They're backfilling that with politics.
00:43:55.000 And you're seeing it happen in synagogues, in churches.
00:43:57.000 And guess what?
00:43:57.000 That's going to empty out the churches.
00:43:58.000 It's going to empty out our politics.
00:44:00.000 It makes politics paramount.
00:44:01.000 You want a functional country?
00:44:02.000 You need more people going to synagogue.
00:44:04.000 You need more people going to church.
00:44:05.000 You need more people who take religion and eternal values seriously.
00:44:08.000 If you don't, the country is going to be in serious, serious trouble.
00:44:11.000 Okay, time for a couple of things that I like and then some things that I hate.
00:44:16.000 So, I was in a very, uh, I was in a very preachy mood today.
00:44:19.000 So, let's do some things that I like and then some things that I hate.
00:44:21.000 So, I missed apparently
00:44:23.000 The whole Serena Williams meltdown, and I have some thoughts on the Serena Williams meltdown.
00:44:28.000 So, if you missed it, over the weekend, Serena Williams is playing at the U.S.
00:44:31.000 Open, the Women's U.S.
00:44:33.000 Open, obviously, because she's the greatest women's player of all time.
00:44:36.000 Not the greatest player of all time, the greatest women's player of all time.
00:44:39.000 And Serena Williams, the reason I say that is because people in ESPN keep saying she should be considered the greatest tennis player of all time, which is absurd, okay?
00:44:48.000 It's just ridiculous.
00:44:48.000 It's like saying Lisa Leslie should be considered the greatest basketball player of all time.
00:44:52.000 What?
00:44:53.000 Anyway, Serena Williams is playing this woman named, is it Naomi Osaka?
00:44:57.000 I think it's Naomi Osaka.
00:44:59.000 Excuse me, who's the up-and-comer.
00:45:02.000 She's 21 years old from Japan, and Serena was favored in this match.
00:45:06.000 She's coming off of pregnancy, and things are not going well for her.
00:45:09.000 Osaka blows her out in the first set, and then they're playing a competitive second set, and Serena Williams starts to lose her cool because she's not playing as well as she wants, and she starts yelling at the chair empire, and here's exactly what it looked like.
00:45:20.000 I didn't get coaching.
00:45:23.000 I didn't get coaching.
00:45:24.000 You need to make an announcement that I didn't get coaching.
00:45:28.000 I don't cheat.
00:45:28.000 I didn't get coaching.
00:45:29.000 How can you say that?
00:45:34.000 You owe me an apology.
00:45:37.000 You owe me an apology.
00:45:38.000 I have never cheated in my life.
00:45:41.000 I have a daughter and I stand what's right for her and I've never cheated.
00:45:44.000 You owe me an apology.
00:45:53.000 You owe me an apology!
00:45:54.000 Say it!
00:45:54.000 Say you're sorry!
00:45:56.000 Well then you're- then don't talk to me!
00:46:00.000 Don't talk to me!
00:46:04.000 Okay, then she called the guy a thief, and then he gave her a game penalty.
00:46:06.000 So basically, he gave her, uh, he gave her a warning, I guess?
00:46:09.000 And then he gave her a point penalty when she smashed her racket, which is mandatory.
00:46:12.000 And then when she called him a thief and a cheater, then he gave her a game penalty.
00:46:16.000 And the left said that she was totally right about this.
00:46:19.000 She was totally right.
00:46:20.000 Now, if Maria Sharapova had done this, I highly doubt that you get that sort of response from the press that this is sexism at work.
00:46:25.000 But Serena Williams is a hero to a lot of people for some good reasons.
00:46:29.000 That's fine.
00:46:30.000 But she acted badly here.
00:46:32.000 OK, she acted badly here.
00:46:33.000 End of story.
00:46:34.000 And there are a bunch.
00:46:35.000 And what I love is people who are non-tennis aficionados.
00:46:38.000 I'm not a tennis aficionado.
00:46:39.000 So that means that I will listen to people like the umpire.
00:46:43.000 In the John McEnroe match, who actually gave a game penalty to John McEnroe.
00:46:46.000 I'll listen to Martina Navratilova.
00:46:47.000 It seems like these people know more about tennis than I do, but I like all the people on Twitter who once saw a tennis match, and now they're like, oh, you know, that's just terrible.
00:46:54.000 That was sexism.
00:46:55.000 If a man had done that, he would have gotten away with it.
00:46:57.000 Really?
00:46:57.000 Because John McEnroe really didn't get away with it.
00:47:00.000 Right?
00:47:00.000 This is a piece by Richard Ings, who is the umpire
00:47:04.000 In the McEnroe, in the McEnroe U.S.
00:47:07.000 Open, he says, his welcome to the job match happened at the 1987 U.S.
00:47:11.000 Open.
00:47:11.000 I was the chair umpire for the fourth round stadium court match between John McEnroe and Slobodan Zivanovic, where I issued a warning point penalty and game penalty against McEnroe.
00:47:20.000 The game penalty for a string of obscenities against me came at 4-5, costing McEnroe the set and making the match one set all.
00:47:26.000 The memories and scars of my welcome to the job match are fresh.
00:47:28.000 For even more than 30 years later, Ramos will be going through much of the same emotions.
00:47:33.000 He says that all of this was exactly right.
00:47:35.000 He says that Ramos did exactly the right thing.
00:47:39.000 He says,
00:47:52.000 All players know that publicly attacking the honesty of the umpire is going to result in an immediate code violation.
00:47:57.000 Ramos made absolutely the correct calls as the chair umpire in each of these three incidents.
00:48:01.000 Now, if you mention that Serena acted badly, or that when Serena's been losing in the past, sometimes she loses her cool and acts badly, then this makes you some sort of sexist and racist.
00:48:10.000 But I'm not the one who's making this claim, okay?
00:48:12.000 To other chair umpires, it's Martina Navratilova.
00:48:15.000 So Martina Navratilova said this.
00:48:17.000 Mr. Ramos effectively had no choice but to dock her a point.
00:48:22.000 This is Martina Navrasilova, probably, if not the greatest women's player of all time, maybe the second greatest women's player of all time after Serena Williams.
00:48:29.000 She says, Ms.
00:48:30.000 Williams opted to argue about this.
00:48:31.000 She insisted she didn't cheat, she wasn't coached, and therefore she shouldn't have been docked.
00:48:34.000 But she didn't, it doesn't matter whether she knew she was receiving coaching, she was being coached.
00:48:38.000 Her own coach admitted it after the match.
00:48:41.000 So at this stage, she'd been giving a warning, one that couldn't be dismissed retroactively and had smashed her racket in an automatic violation.
00:48:46.000 Mr. Ramos effectively had no choice but to dock her a point.
00:48:51.000 This is exactly right.
00:48:52.000 That's one thing.
00:48:52.000 If you think Serena should be able to get away with things because men have gotten away with them in the past,
00:49:10.000 I'm not sure how you argue that.
00:49:11.000 In politics, we call that whataboutism.
00:49:14.000 Jonathan Lastover at the Weekly Standard makes this point.
00:49:16.000 He says, Serena has a history of lashing out in big matches when she's getting beaten by inferior players.
00:49:21.000 In 2009, Serena was getting worked by Kim Clysters in the semis at the U.S.
00:49:24.000 Open when she got called for a footfall.
00:49:25.000 Again, the call itself was correct.
00:49:27.000 She exploded in a tirade against the female line judge that included a physical threat.
00:49:31.000 In the 2011 finals at the U.S.
00:49:32.000 Open, Serena was getting beat by Sam Stoser when she yelled in the middle of a point.
00:49:37.000 The chair umpire called interference, again correctly, and Serena exploded at her, saying,
00:49:47.000 Again, this doesn't change the fact that Serena Williams is the greatest female player ever, but she basically stole the headline from an up-and-comer, and that is really kind of a terrible thing to do.
00:49:58.000 The thing that I like about this is that there are some actual tennis experts who are coming out and speaking the truth and not being intimidated by the wave of publicity that has followed all of this.
00:50:07.000 Okay, other things that I like.
00:50:08.000 So, John Bolton, who is the current National Security Advisor,
00:50:13.000 He says that the United States is going to withdraw the embassy.
00:50:20.000 The Palestine Liberation Organization, which is the Palestinian Authority, has an embassy in the United States.
00:50:26.000 He says that they are going to get rid of it, as well they should.
00:50:28.000 It's a terrorist organization.
00:50:29.000 Here's John Bolton.
00:50:30.000 The United States will always stand with our friend and ally, Israel.
00:50:35.000 And today, reflecting Congressional concern with Palestinian attempts to prompt an ICC investigation of Israel, the Department of State will announce the closure of the Palestine Liberation Organization office here in Washington, D.C.
00:50:51.000 The United States supports a direct and robust peace process, and we will not allow the ICC or any other organization
00:51:00.000 Well good for John Bolton and good for the Trump administration which has been extraordinarily pro-Israel in every aspect as well they should be.
00:51:10.000 It's sad that this has become a partisan issue because there is one side here that teaches its children to murder other people and there's one side here that has repeatedly offered territorial compromises in exchange for the other side stopping all the nonsense about teaching their kids to kill people.
00:51:23.000 So this is really not a hard issue and the Trump administration gets it right.
00:51:26.000 Okay, time for a couple of things that I hate.
00:51:31.000 So this is pretty horrifying.
00:51:33.000 Apparently, there's a Washington convenience store.
00:51:35.000 It's near Seattle, in Auburn.
00:51:38.000 And a guy who was working behind the counter collapsed.
00:51:42.000 The clerk collapsed.
00:51:43.000 And the people inside the store, these two teenagers, didn't call for help.
00:51:47.000 Instead, they decided to take the opportunity to rob the store.
00:51:50.000 So I'll narrate the video, because you can't really hear the audio.
00:51:54.000 Basically, you're going to see that there is the clerk who's talking to them.
00:52:00.000 And then he collapses and he faints or something and the people he's talking to then come back into the store and start robbing the store.
00:52:07.000 They start taking everything they can from the store instead of calling the cops.
00:52:10.000 They're walking around.
00:52:11.000 They don't care this guy just collapsed and maybe dying, maybe had an aneurysm or heart attack.
00:52:15.000 They're just taking stuff.
00:52:17.000 One of the messages of the Jewish High Holidays and of religion in general is that people are sinful creatures and that people are capable of good and people are capable of evil.
00:52:25.000 The notion that has become very popular in American society and across the West is that people are naturally good.
00:52:30.000 I don't know how you can look at people and possibly think that.
00:52:32.000 People are not naturally good.
00:52:34.000 My two-and-a-half-year-old boy is not a naturally good person.
00:52:37.000 He's a naturally innocent person.
00:52:39.000 He has the capacity for good, but he's going to have to be civilized.
00:52:41.000 My four-and-a-half-year-old girl gets punished a lot when she's bad.
00:52:45.000 We're good to go.
00:53:04.000 Well, because civilization progresses, and civilization progresses because of that interplay that I talked about a little bit earlier on the show, that interplay between absolute morality and Judeo-Christian morality and Greek reason, that interplay cast across the ages is what creates a civilization capable of channeling people's selfishness toward best efforts.
00:53:23.000 And capable of channeling people's destructive tendencies toward creative tendencies.
00:53:27.000 But the minute you stop teaching children this, you're one generation away from all of it collapsing.
00:53:31.000 Because a generation that is not educated in morality, a generation that is not educated in decency, will not be decent.
00:53:37.000 It takes thousands of years to build a civilization worth keeping.
00:53:40.000 It takes one generation to destroy the whole thing.
00:53:43.000 All you have to do is not teach your kids.
00:53:44.000 That's all you have to do.
00:53:46.000 And in an age when it's seen as nasty and judgmental to teach your kids things, it seems like that is becoming a probability, not just a possibility, unfortunately.
00:53:55.000 Okay, other things that I hate.
00:53:57.000 So I have to talk about this terrible, terrible police shooting.
00:54:00.000 It's not really even effectively a police shooting, but it's being treated as such.
00:54:03.000 David French has a piece about it.
00:54:05.000 It's about this guy named Botham Shemjean, who's a young black risk assurance associate at PricewaterhouseCoopers who was shot last week.
00:54:12.000 Here's what happened.
00:54:12.000 He was home alone in his apartment in the Southside Flats complex in Dallas when a police officer named Amber Giger entered and shot him dead.
00:54:19.000 The precise chain of events is somewhat disputed.
00:54:21.000 The affidavit supporting Geiger's arrest warrant states she believed she was entering her own apartment, which was directly below his, and laid out almost identically.
00:54:28.000 She placed her key in the lock, the door pushed open, the apartment was dark, she saw a large silhouette across the room.
00:54:32.000 She believed she was facing a burglar.
00:54:33.000 She drew her firearm and gave verbal commands, which Jean ignored.
00:54:36.000 She fired twice, and only then, she says, entered the apartment, called 911, turned on the lights, and realized she'd made a terrible mistake.
00:54:43.000 But apparently, this doesn't square with other testimony.
00:54:46.000 One witness reported hearing a woman yelling, let me in, let me in, before the gunshots, and a man's voice saying, oh my god, why did you do that, after the gunshots.
00:54:53.000 Police sources are indicating that Geiger may actually try to raise the fact that Jean didn't obey her commands as a defense.
00:54:58.000 That is not a defense.
00:54:59.000 If I come into your apartment and I start yelling at you, and then I shoot you, I'm a murderer.
00:55:03.000 End of story.
00:55:04.000 It doesn't matter whether I'm a cop in my day job.
00:55:06.000 You don't get to do that.
00:55:07.000 And this is one of those cases where people should be speaking out across the aisle because the police department apparently took its time about getting to this and the investigation is pretty slow.
00:55:18.000 There are actual problems.
00:55:20.000 The problems that actually exist in policing, and I say this as a major supporter of American police officers,
00:55:26.000 There are two major problems in policing.
00:55:28.000 One is the major problem that exists with regard to guilty cops getting off because people give too broad an area of discretion to those cops.
00:55:35.000 And the other is a lack of training, not with regard to race, but with regard to proper use of violence in particular circumstances.
00:55:43.000 And the second one, I think, is more common among young recruits.
00:55:46.000 Older people know this.
00:55:48.000 I had a close friend of mine is a police officer, and he was talking to me yesterday about how much of the job involves just
00:55:55.000 Restraint.
00:55:56.000 Just holding yourself back and not doing things that you want to do.
00:55:59.000 And that's true.
00:56:01.000 But when a police officer crosses the line, obviously we need to hold them responsible.
00:56:04.000 The problem is we're having the wrong conversation.
00:56:06.000 The conversation we're having is about implicit bias and secret racism and all of this.
00:56:09.000 The real conversation we ought to be having is about holding people accountable when they actually do something wrong, not about maligning all police officers as incipient racists who want to kill black folks.
00:56:17.000 Okay.
00:56:18.000 Well, we will be back here tomorrow with all of the latest.
00:56:20.000 I hope that you had a couple of decent days off while I was off, but we'll be back tomorrow with all the news.
00:56:25.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
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