The Ben Shapiro Show - December 18, 2017


Is Trump Finally Winning? | Ep. 439


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Length

1 hour

Words per Minute

208.7576

Word Count

12,602

Sentence Count

843

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

Mueller has access to thousands of Trump transition emails. Republicans are finally on the verge of a breakthrough. President Trump has a strategy to deal with Robert Mueller. The Democrats are trying to defend Al Franken. And I will have a full and complete breakdown of Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker, complete with SPOILERS. Subscribe to The Ben Shapiro Show on Apple Podcasts and leave us your own podcast recommendations! Subscribe, Like, and Share to stay up to date on all things political and current events. Today's episode features: - The latest on the Mueller investigation - Is there any evidence of Trump-Russia collusion? - What does that have to do with the Iran nuclear deal? - Is it possible that the Obama administration colluded with the Russian government to get rid of Iran's nuclear program? - Is this a good or bad thing? - And is this even a good thing at all? Thanks to Ring for sponsoring the show! Get $150 off a Ring of Security Kit when you go to Ring.That s Ring. That s Ring, that's Ring, That's Ring! Ben Shapiro's favorite product that keeps your home safe, and keeps you in the loop on what's going bump in the night! Thanks, Ben Shapiro Ring of security kit, when things go bumping in your night out and you know what it's going to keep you safe, keep your family safe, you'll immediately know what you're going to know what to look out for in the dark, and keep your house safe, no matter where you go. . Thanks Ring, you're not in your house, Ring. Ben, that s going to save up to $150, you know that you'll be safe, so they know that we sent you, you sent me a bunch of stuff like that! . . . and I can t wait to hear about it! - Ben, Ben, That s RING OF SECURING YOU, Ring's Floodlight Cam, get $150 OFF $150 at Ring, so you know you'll know what that's gonna keep you out of trouble, you ll know that it's not going to go bump in your doorbells, and you'll get it, right, you can do it, you won t be there, right?! RING of Security kit, right now, when you can save $150 by ringing in the doorbell, right?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Republicans are finally on the verge of a breakthrough.
00:00:02.000 President Trump has a strategy to deal with Robert Mueller.
00:00:05.000 The Democrats are trying to defend Al Franken.
00:00:07.000 And I will have a full and complete breakdown of Star Wars, complete with spoilers.
00:00:10.000 But don't worry, I'll do that near the end of the show.
00:00:12.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:00:13.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
00:00:19.000 Oh yes, I have so many thoughts on the new Star Wars film, I cannot even begin to explain.
00:00:23.000 So many thoughts, indeed.
00:00:24.000 And I will get to all of them a little bit later in the program.
00:00:27.000 We will also talk about President Trump, who finally, it seems, has the Democrats on their heels.
00:00:31.000 It's the end of the year, and Democrats don't really seem to know quite what to do.
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00:01:56.000 Okay, so we begin today with the latest on the Mueller investigation.
00:02:04.000 So it now appears that Robert Mueller, the special investigator into Trump-Russia collusion, he's obtained tens of thousands of Trump transition emails.
00:02:11.000 Now you may ask, what exactly do the Trump transition emails have to do with collusion during the election cycle?
00:02:17.000 The answer, of course, is nothing.
00:02:19.000 But this is sort of the problem for the Mueller investigation, which seems to be falling apart pretty quickly.
00:02:23.000 All of the crimes they are now investigating have to do with secondary crimes, lying to the FBI, maybe transition stuff, but nothing to do with that central contention, right?
00:02:31.000 That Trump and the Russians worked together to rig the 2016 elections against Hillary Clinton.
00:02:36.000 This was the entire motivating factor behind the investigations in 2016.
00:02:39.000 It's been the entire reason Democrats have been so animated about it now.
00:02:44.000 So Special Counsel Mueller,
00:02:46.000 Trump officials discovered Mueller had the emails when his prosecutors used them as the basis for questions to witnesses, the sources said.
00:02:58.000 The emails included 12 accounts, one of which contained about 7,000 emails.
00:03:02.000 The accounts include the team's political leadership and foreign policy team, according to the sources.
00:03:07.000 Apparently Mueller did this perfectly legally.
00:03:09.000 He went through the GSA, the General Services Administration.
00:03:12.000 They host the transition email system, and they have capacity to read all these emails.
00:03:16.000 The transition emails include sensitive exchanges on matters that include potential appointments, gossip about the views of particular senators involved in the confirmation processes, speculation about vulnerabilities of Trump nominees, et cetera.
00:03:27.000 What does that have to do with collusion?
00:03:29.000 The answer is pretty much nothing.
00:03:31.000 And meanwhile, while Mueller is going after Trump over supposed collusion that we have no evidence exists,
00:03:36.000 We now know that the Obama administration was colluding with Russia to help Iran.
00:03:40.000 So this is a story out of Politico, European version.
00:03:43.000 Pretty amazing story.
00:03:44.000 I reported this over at Daily Wire today.
00:03:47.000 There's clear evidence that the Obama administration colluded with the Russian government to free an Islamic terrorist responsible for the deaths of Americans in order to appease Iran to pave the way for the Obama administration's Iran nuclear deal.
00:03:58.000 This is a report from Josh Meyer of Politico.
00:04:01.000 Then it reports that Ali Fayyad
00:04:03.000 A Lebanese arms dealer and quote, suspected top Hezbollah operative, whom agents believed reported to Russian President Vladimir Putin, was captured by the Czechs in 2014.
00:04:11.000 Fayyad had been indicted in the US.
00:04:14.000 Now, you would expect the Obama administration to move for him to be extradited, correct?
00:04:18.000 Nothing of the sort.
00:04:19.000 The Obama administration did not push for extradition.
00:04:22.000 Instead, Fayyad ended up in Lebanon, where he's back at his terrorist work.
00:04:25.000 He's particularly active in supplying weapons to the barbarous Syrian regime.
00:04:29.000 That's not the only thing the Obama administration did on behalf of Lebanese terrorists.
00:04:33.000 According to the Politico, administration officials also blocked or undermined their efforts to go after other top Hezbollah operatives.
00:04:39.000 And when Project Cassandra agents and other investigators sought repeatedly to investigate and prosecute Abdullah Safiyyedine, Hezbollah's longtime envoy to Iran, whom they considered the lynchpin of Hezbollah's criminal network, the Justice Department refused.
00:04:51.000 In other words, the Obama administration was working with the Russian government to make sure that there was no crackdown on Hezbollah because they were afraid it would take off the Russians.
00:04:58.000 We also know President Obama was offering flexibility to the Russians in the middle of the 2012 election, saying that he had flexibility after the election cycle if Putin would just back off all of his concerns about missile defense for the moment.
00:05:10.000 All of which is to say, there's a lot more evidence of actual Russian collusion among the Obama administration members than there is among the Trump administration members at this point, at least with regard to elections and even with regard to policy.
00:05:21.000 Because it turns out that even what Mike Flynn was trying to do, i.e.
00:05:24.000 get Russia to not push a resolution at the UN condemning Israel, didn't work.
00:05:28.000 So the actual evidence of collusion is basically nil, which means that Trump has the upper hand now in the investigation.
00:05:34.000 Apparently Trump is pretty sanguine about it.
00:05:36.000 There's a report out today that Trump expects Mueller to basically clear Trump himself in the very near future.
00:05:41.000 And that's why Trump said over the weekend, he was asked, are you going to fire Mueller?
00:05:44.000 And here was his answer.
00:05:45.000 The president last night quashed Capitol Hill rumors that he was poised to fire special counsel Robert Mueller.
00:05:54.000 No, I'm not.
00:05:55.000 No.
00:05:56.000 What else?
00:05:58.000 What are you surprised?
00:05:59.000 Okay, so he's obviously angry at the press for saying that he's going to fire Mueller as well he should be.
00:06:05.000 And I think that he's right when he says, you know, are you surprised?
00:06:08.000 Like guys, I know you want me to do it.
00:06:10.000 I'm not going to do it.
00:06:11.000 Why should he do it?
00:06:12.000 Mueller's investigation has already been compromised by the people who are inside of it.
00:06:16.000 It's already been shown to be at least in part political, or at least there are those suspicions.
00:06:21.000 There's not evidence that he did anything, so why would he fire Mueller?
00:06:24.000 Why not just wait it out?
00:06:26.000 That is the question I asked on Friday.
00:06:27.000 Why not just wait this out?
00:06:28.000 And it appears the president has come to the same conclusion, especially because it appears the president is now winning on a series of subjects.
00:06:34.000 Tax cuts are supposed to be voted on tomorrow in the House and the Senate, so we will have a tax reform bill before Christmas.
00:06:39.000 That tax reform bill does lower taxes for virtually everyone in the United States, including corporations.
00:06:44.000 You may have quibbles with the way that it's structured.
00:06:46.000 I have quibbles with it, too.
00:06:48.000 It is a good bill.
00:06:49.000 It also gets rid of the individual mandate as it currently stands.
00:06:52.000 That means you will not be mandated to buy your crappy Obamacare program anymore.
00:06:56.000 The left says, well, that's terrible because now people are going to lose their health insurance.
00:07:00.000 Well, the people losing their health insurance are people who don't want to buy their health insurance, according to the Congressional Budget Office.
00:07:05.000 So this is a big win for Trump if this happens.
00:07:07.000 It's sort of partial repeal of Obamacare included in the tax reform.
00:07:11.000 And Trump obviously is very excited.
00:07:12.000 There's a report out today that the last quarter's growth has been revised upwards to almost 4% GDP growth, which is an amazing level of growth.
00:07:19.000 We haven't had that in years.
00:07:21.000 Here is President Trump talking about that yesterday.
00:07:23.000 The economy now has hit 3%.
00:07:26.000 Nobody thought it would be anywhere close.
00:07:28.000 I think we can go to 4%, 5%, and maybe even 6% ultimately.
00:07:33.000 Each percentage point is $2.5 trillion.
00:07:37.000 We are back.
00:07:38.000 We're really going to start to rock.
00:07:40.000 We need this as our final push, and you're going to see some numbers that are great.
00:07:44.000 But most importantly, you're going to see great job numbers.
00:07:49.000 Jobs are going to come pouring back.
00:07:51.000 Into this country, which we need very much.
00:07:54.000 OK, so there have been good quarters before.
00:07:57.000 There was a good quarter in Q3 of 2014, for example.
00:08:00.000 We grew at something like 5%.
00:08:01.000 But if Trump has this sustained level of growth, he's going to do just fine, or at least he's going to be in better shape.
00:08:07.000 And he knows it.
00:08:08.000 He knows it.
00:08:08.000 And that's why you're seeing all the Republicans come out now and say, well, let the investigation go forward.
00:08:12.000 Who cares?
00:08:13.000 Just let the investigation do what the investigation is going to do.
00:08:16.000 No biggie.
00:08:17.000 GOP Senator Lankford, I believe he's from Oklahoma, he comes forward and he says, yeah, there's no reason to end this investigation at this point.
00:08:24.000 Yeah, it's very serious to be able to have someone inside.
00:08:26.000 What they've got to determine is, was he directing the investigation one way or the other while he was on the investigation?
00:08:32.000 Is that something they can go back and repair and look and see if there's any kind of bias that's in it?
00:08:36.000 Obviously, I don't think it taints the entire process, but it certainly taints that season of it, and it's something you should look at with any political investigation that he was on at the time.
00:08:45.000 And the good news for President Trump is that even if the investigation goes badly for him at this point, it's been so politicized that there's going to be a bevy of people who come out and say this thing is just too political.
00:08:54.000 Jeanine Pirro, of course, will lead the way on Fox News.
00:08:56.000 She says that the FBI agents involved should be jailed.
00:08:58.000 Now, this is over the top, but it's also the angle a lot of people are going to take no matter how this investigation goes.
00:09:04.000 It all started when Cardinal Comey destroyed our FBI with political hacks to set events in motion to destroy the Republic because they didn't like the man we chose to be our president.
00:09:19.000 Well, it's time to take them out in cuffs.
00:09:24.000 Okay, so this is obviously over the top from Jeanine Pirro, but there will be a lot of people who do sort of say this, right?
00:09:30.000 Who move in this direction, and Trump knows it.
00:09:32.000 So Trump has the upper hand now.
00:09:33.000 He has the upper hand on policy.
00:09:35.000 It's the end of the year, and it appears he's actually going to get some things done.
00:09:38.000 He knows the investigation doesn't seem like it's going anywhere, and so the Democrats are panicked.
00:09:41.000 In a second, I'm going to talk about
00:09:43.000 The insane media bias being exhibited in pursuit of President Trump.
00:09:48.000 And it really is insane, and how they're exploding all over themselves.
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00:11:52.000 Okay, so the media are beginning to pick up on the fact that President Trump actually is in not terrible shape going into 2018.
00:11:58.000 Now, the Congress
00:12:16.000 The Congress could be in terrible shape going into 2018.
00:12:18.000 And Trump could be in good shape, right?
00:12:22.000 And this is sort of the problem that you're seeing for President Trump.
00:12:24.000 It was true for President Obama also.
00:12:25.000 So Trump tweeted out this morning.
00:12:27.000 That you shouldn't take congressional losses as a referendum on him, right?
00:12:31.000 Here's what he said.
00:12:32.000 Remember, Republicans are 5-0 in congressional races this year.
00:12:35.000 Well, I mean, that doesn't count Senate races.
00:12:37.000 The media refuses to mention this.
00:12:38.000 I said Gillespie and Moore would lose for very different reasons and they did.
00:12:41.000 I also predicted I would win.
00:12:43.000 I don't know why I is in scare quotes there again.
00:12:45.000 The president needs a remedial course on scare quotes.
00:12:48.000 Republicans will do well in 2018.
00:12:50.000 Very well.
00:12:52.000 And so, I mean, number one, I guess this is a prediction that we can now take to the bank because he's good at predicting things as the president.
00:12:58.000 But this idea that Congress is going to go well because Trump is going well is not really accurate.
00:13:03.000 That said, Trump's accomplishments this year are greater than they appeared like they were going to be, say, three months ago.
00:13:09.000 Not only do we have Gorsuch, we have 12 appellate court nominees who have been confirmed.
00:13:13.000 We have a tax bill that looks like it's going to go through, repeal of the individual mandate on foreign policy, the movement of the embassy to Jerusalem, the kickback against the Iran nuclear deal.
00:13:24.000 The president is moving.
00:13:26.000 I mean, there's no question that Trump and Congress are moving.
00:13:28.000 They're moving slower than I would like.
00:13:30.000 Their first real major legislative accomplishment will be this tax reform, but it is a major accomplishment for him, and he needs it badly.
00:13:36.000 Right now, the poll on the tax bills are not great.
00:13:40.000 There's a new Monmouth poll out today showing 26% approve, 47% disapprove.
00:13:45.000 50% think their own taxes will go up versus 14% who say down.
00:13:49.000 You know why that is?
00:13:50.000 That's because of the media.
00:13:51.000 And this is why when President Trump rips the media, I think that it would be wonderful if the president would stick to the facts.
00:13:56.000 Because there are so many reasons to dislike how the media cover these things.
00:14:00.000 The media suggesting that people's taxes are going to go up is insane.
00:14:03.000 Factually speaking, the vast majority of human beings in the United States would get a tax cut.
00:14:08.000 The media keeps saying this is skewed toward the wealthy.
00:14:11.000 Well, what do you expect?
00:14:13.000 Non-wealthy people don't pay taxes in the United States.
00:14:16.000 The fact is, middle class, upper class people, those are the people who pay taxes.
00:14:19.000 And by and large, it's upper class people who pay taxes.
00:14:22.000 People who don't make a lot of money do not pay income tax in the United States.
00:14:26.000 So you think they're going to get a major tax break?
00:14:28.000 But all this misinformation does have an impact.
00:14:31.000 But what's amazing about this is the media do not understand why their credibility is going down.
00:14:35.000 Now, the media have basically expended their credibility to get Trump.
00:14:38.000 This is the trade they've been willing to make.
00:14:40.000 They're going to go out on a limb and say untrue things, plainly untrue things, in an effort to stop President Trump.
00:14:46.000 And then they're surprised when no one takes them seriously.
00:14:48.000 And they're angry that Fox continues to dominate the ratings.
00:14:51.000 And they continue to call Fox a propaganda network.
00:14:53.000 Brian Stelter on CNN yesterday, for example, he says, you know, Fox, they talk like propagandists over at Fox.
00:14:58.000 It's not like a propaganda network.
00:15:00.000 Kurt, what is going on here?
00:15:03.000 Well, I think you're seeing exactly that.
00:15:04.000 Fox News has basically become de facto state-run propaganda.
00:15:08.000 It's state-controlled, state-run television that is beginning to be excused directly from the White House.
00:15:12.000 I don't know how anyone can look at what's going on right now and not reach that determination.
00:15:16.000 Trump is creating his own reality.
00:15:17.000 But when you say that, it's not as if the White House is literally running Fox.
00:15:21.000 Or are you saying they are?
00:15:22.000 Well, if you look at the coverage, it sure seems like they are.
00:15:24.000 They have gone so far extreme.
00:15:26.000 I remember the days, Brian, when what you saw on pages like Breitbart were considered the fringe.
00:15:30.000 It was considered so far beyond the mainstream, not even Fox News would touch what was on those pages.
00:15:35.000 Now, Fox is going almost further than Breitbart.
00:15:37.000 And you have right now, at this second, there's an ad running in different markets with Fox News contributor Tomi Lahren advocating and attacking the Miller investigation.
00:15:47.000 Okay, so, you know, I like Kurt, but when Kurt does this and CNN humors it, this is a pot kettle situation, okay?
00:15:54.000 CNN suggesting that other networks are involved in propaganda.
00:15:58.000 Let me just show you a panel that was talking about President Trump and misogyny, okay?
00:16:03.000 If this does not look like propaganda to you, then I don't know what would.
00:16:07.000 Do you agree with Mike that this has helped Kirsten Gillibrand?
00:16:11.000 I do.
00:16:12.000 The one piece I disagree with is that President Trump, if this was a one-off, that would be one thing.
00:16:18.000 But this is a guy who was misogyny in his DNA, who ran as a misogynist.
00:16:22.000 I'm sure that wasn't on his bumper sticker, but that was part of who he was and who he ran as.
00:16:26.000 So this is completely aligned with that.
00:16:28.000 That's why people heard what they heard from the tweet.
00:16:31.000 Jen Psaki, CNN political commentator, also the former State Department spokesperson for Barack Obama, right?
00:16:37.000 But they're not a propaganda network, right?
00:16:38.000 It's not propaganda when Fareed Zakaria over at CNN says that the Republican tax plan is ushering in a bleak future, right?
00:16:44.000 The universe is going to end because of Republican tax plans.
00:16:47.000 The medium and long-term effects of the plan are clear.
00:16:50.000 A massive drop in public investment, which will come on the heels of decades of declining spending as a percentage of GDP on infrastructure, scientific research, skills training and core government agencies.
00:17:05.000 The United States cannot coast on past investments forever.
00:17:09.000 And with this legislation, we are ushering in a bleak future.
00:17:14.000 Really?
00:17:14.000 We're ushering in a bleak future because I get to keep more of my own money?
00:17:17.000 And I love this idea that we're going to stop spending.
00:17:19.000 Where are the spending cuts?
00:17:20.000 I'm missing the spending cuts.
00:17:22.000 There are no spending cuts.
00:17:23.000 This is one of the problems with the bill.
00:17:24.000 I would prefer there be spending cuts.
00:17:26.000 This idea that, oh, well, we definitely need more money for infrastructure.
00:17:31.000 We definitely need more money for scientific research.
00:17:34.000 That's really where the cuts are happening here.
00:17:36.000 What is he talking about?
00:17:37.000 If there are cuts, those cuts are going to come in the form of Medicare or Medicaid or Social Security.
00:17:41.000 That's where the real spending is occurring.
00:17:42.000 It's not occurring.
00:17:44.000 In the off-brand spending categories.
00:17:46.000 In the big spending in the United States, 66% of the federal budget, two-thirds of the federal budget, is consumed by Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security.
00:17:53.000 That's where restructuring needs to take place.
00:17:55.000 But you wonder why the media is losing credibility at the same time they're attacking the tax plan as the end of the world?
00:18:02.000 Americans have a bad opinion of this because the media still has power.
00:18:05.000 Now, this is one area where I think the right is wrong.
00:18:07.000 The right has been saying for years, well, we now have the upper hand.
00:18:10.000 Nobody listens to the media anymore.
00:18:12.000 People have stopped listening to the media on their character descriptions.
00:18:15.000 When the media say that Trump is a racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe, all this stuff,
00:18:19.000 The American people largely just ignore because they'll make their own judgment on that.
00:18:22.000 When it comes to the material in bills, the American people don't have time to read a 1,000-page tax bill, and they tend to take the talking points that they see on the TV.
00:18:30.000 So if you just watch Fareed Zachariah, what you would assume is that the Republicans just cut spending by an enormous percentage, as opposed to cutting taxes by an enormous percentage.
00:18:37.000 Because nowhere in there does Fareed Zachariah talk about what actually happens to your taxes.
00:18:42.000 A tax plan is about tax reduction.
00:18:45.000 A spending plan would be about spending reduction.
00:18:48.000 There's nothing about spending in the tax plan.
00:18:50.000 This just demonstrates, again, the left wants to say Fox is a propaganda outlet.
00:18:55.000 Listen, Fox has its slant, but the media have their own slant, and President Trump is not wrong to knock the media's slant on all of this.
00:19:01.000 The media have been imploding and destroying their own credibility on this stuff for quite a while, so it's not a tremendous shock.
00:19:08.000 And this sets up a serious problem for Democrats.
00:19:11.000 A really serious problem for Democrats.
00:19:12.000 It sets up a problem that the Democrats have set up outsized expectations for their own party.
00:19:29.000 I mean, the entire Democratic base believes that Trump is on the verge of falling over.
00:19:32.000 If you talk to a Democrat, it sounds like Trump is going to be impeached tomorrow, or Trump is going to resign tomorrow, or Trump is going to die tomorrow.
00:19:39.000 This is how Democrats talk.
00:19:40.000 Keith Olbermann said this when he resigned.
00:19:42.000 Well, my job here is done, because it turns out...
00:19:46.000 President Trump is going to leave.
00:19:49.000 They're talking this nonsense for a while, and they're making it sound as though they're on the verge of impeaching President Trump, but the truth is, they have no intention of doing any of those things.
00:19:59.000 They're not going to impeach President Trump, because it would not be politically beneficial for them to impeach President Trump.
00:20:04.000 If they were to move against President Trump, Trump would actually gain in the polls, the same way that Bill Clinton gained in the polls in 1998 when the Republicans moved for impeachment.
00:20:11.000 If they were to go after Trump unfairly, there would be a rally around the Trump effect.
00:20:15.000 It's the opposite of what they want.
00:20:17.000 And so the Democrats are now stuck between a rock and a hard place.
00:20:19.000 They have been promising that Trump's agenda is going to fail.
00:20:22.000 It's not.
00:20:23.000 They have been promising that President Trump is going to leave office, an ignominious disgrace.
00:20:27.000 Not that he's not going to be re-elected, but that he's going to have to resign due to financial impropriety, corruption, collusion with the Russians.
00:20:34.000 That's not going to happen either.
00:20:36.000 And the Democrats are beginning to sense that they are in serious trouble here.
00:20:39.000 The Democrats are beginning to sense that if they push this thing too hard, there could be a real problem for them.
00:20:43.000 So Doug Jones, the recently elected senator from Alabama, Democrat, he was asked, should President Trump be—should he resign over sexual harassment allegations?
00:20:51.000 And Doug Jones knows there's going to be blowback to him and other Democrats if they push this way.
00:20:56.000 So here's Jake Tapper rightly pressing him on it, and Doug Jones basically saying, no, we're going to leave Trump in place.
00:21:01.000 Where I am on that right now is that those allegations were made before the election.
00:21:06.000 And so people had an opportunity to judge before that election.
00:21:10.000 I think we need to move on and not get distracted by those issues.
00:21:13.000 Let's get on with the real issues that are facing people of this country right now.
00:21:18.000 And I don't think that the president ought to resign at this point.
00:21:21.000 We'll see how things go.
00:21:22.000 But certainly those allegations are not new.
00:21:25.000 And he was elected with those allegations at front and center.
00:21:28.000 And remember, Nancy Pelosi came out and said she was not going to support impeachment right now.
00:21:32.000 Major Democrats have been saying they're not going to support impeachment.
00:21:34.000 In fact, major Democrats sound like they want to try and work with Trump because they know that Trump may not be going anywhere, okay?
00:21:40.000 The incumbent always has a major advantage going into a presidential election.
00:21:44.000 So Democrats have sold their base a bill of goods, and that is going to come home to them in a serious way.
00:21:49.000 It could, seriously, in 2020.
00:21:51.000 I'll explain why in just a second.
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00:23:18.000 Okay, so, here's the problem for the Democrats.
00:23:20.000 They've made all of these big promises to their base.
00:23:24.000 Trump is gonna go.
00:23:25.000 We've got him on the ropes.
00:23:26.000 He's on the verge of falling apart.
00:23:29.000 What happens if they don't deliver?
00:23:30.000 What happens if they don't deliver?
00:23:32.000 What happens if they start moving along the lines of Tim Ryan?
00:23:34.000 Tim Ryan is a Democratic representative from Ohio who says that he may want to work with President Trump now.
00:23:40.000 What happens if the Democrats decide to be practical instead of feeding the pie-in-the-sky frenzy that the Bernie bros want, or the Hillary Heritans are interested in?
00:23:49.000 Here's Tim Ryan explaining that he'd like to work with the President.
00:23:53.000 And what I'm saying is that this isn't going to do it.
00:23:56.000 President Bush said, cut taxes on the wealthiest.
00:23:58.000 It's going to lead to growth.
00:23:59.000 Wages are going to go up.
00:24:01.000 That, in 2001, 2, and 3, that was the decade with the least amount of growth we've had since the Great Depression.
00:24:08.000 And what I'm saying is, we need to take down dilapidated homes.
00:24:11.000 We need that trillion dollar infrastructure bill that the president promised.
00:24:16.000 How in God's name are we going to pay for that if we're borrowing $2 trillion from China to do the tax cuts?
00:24:21.000 OK, what if Trump comes forward early next year with his giant infrastructure plan?
00:24:26.000 What if he calls their bluff?
00:24:27.000 What if he says, listen, I spent time on the taxes.
00:24:29.000 OK, the tax bill, it's done.
00:24:31.000 Now, you wanted your infrastructure bill.
00:24:32.000 I'm going to give it to you.
00:24:33.000 What do Democrats do?
00:24:34.000 Do they embrace him?
00:24:36.000 Do they run away from him?
00:24:37.000 Or do they do what Bernie Sanders does?
00:24:39.000 Bernie Sanders is going to be the only intellectually coherent Democrat.
00:24:43.000 He says he's going to vote against the tax cuts.
00:24:44.000 And then he says he'll vote for the infrastructure bill with the knowledge that if Democrats retake Congress, they'll have to raise taxes.
00:24:50.000 Is that a winning plan?
00:24:51.000 Trump may have the Democrats in a bit of a trap here because if he cuts taxes and people see a little bit more money in their mailbox and it turns out their taxes didn't go up, they went down.
00:24:59.000 My taxes, I'm one of the few people in America whose taxes will go up in all likelihood thanks to the Trump bill.
00:25:04.000 But most people will have a tax reduction.
00:25:06.000 If you have that tax reduction, and then Trump comes along and says, I want the infrastructure bill, and Democrats vote with him on infrastructure, that puts them in the position of now having to argue that they want to raise your taxes again.
00:25:17.000 Is that a winning political argument?
00:25:18.000 Does this sound like a winning political argument from Bernie Sanders?
00:25:22.000 But if you Democrats take control, are corporate taxes going up?
00:25:27.000 I think we're going to take a very hard look at this entire tax bill and make it a tax bill that works for the middle class and working families, not for the top 1% and large multinational corporations.
00:25:39.000 But there's no question that in order to achieve all of the things you want, taxes are going to have to go up on corporations.
00:25:44.000 If they're down to 21 as a result of this legislation, you can't find the money anymore.
00:25:48.000 Absolutely, yes.
00:25:49.000 In my view, absolutely.
00:25:51.000 Okay, so amazing, right?
00:25:52.000 Trump may have them boxed in because he's actually decreased the tax revenue and increased the spending, forcing Democrats to embrace the increased spending and also to embrace an increase in taxes.
00:26:03.000 Now, here's the problem for Democrats.
00:26:04.000 If they're trapped this way, and if they don't move against Trump, if they don't try to impeach the president, what do they do next?
00:26:11.000 Where do they go?
00:26:12.000 You could easily see a Democrat in 2020 running on a primary ballot.
00:26:17.000 This is Ben Domenech's point at The Federalist.
00:26:18.000 I think it's a good one.
00:26:19.000 You could easily see Democrats going so crazy that Trump is still in office in 2020 that they decide to nominate a Dennis Kucinich type.
00:26:26.000 Some actual mutt case.
00:26:28.000 They decide to nominate somebody so crazy, far to the left,
00:26:32.000 That the guy is pledging the moon.
00:26:35.000 And then that person goes crazy during the election cycle.
00:26:37.000 And they lose to Trump again.
00:26:38.000 Right?
00:26:38.000 You can see Trump winning re-election on the back of this.
00:26:40.000 Now, listen.
00:26:41.000 None of this is to say that Trump has the upper hand in 2018.
00:26:44.000 Okay?
00:26:45.000 Because the statistics just don't back that up.
00:26:47.000 But if Democrats think that Trump is just going to fade into the woodwork, they've got another thing coming.
00:26:51.000 Especially because the Democrats can't even get their own house in order.
00:26:54.000 There's a story out today that four Democratic senators now want to keep Al Franken.
00:26:58.000 Remember two weeks ago when the Democrats were saying that they wanted the moral high ground on sexual harassment and sexual abuse?
00:27:04.000 That was predicated on the notion that Roy Moore was going to win that Senate seat in Alabama.
00:27:07.000 He did not win that Senate seat in Alabama.
00:27:09.000 And so now the Democrats are left, basically, with their pants around their feet.
00:27:12.000 Because what do they do?
00:27:14.000 They can have the moral high ground, but they're going to have to oust their guy.
00:27:17.000 And the Republicans don't have the moral low ground anymore because they didn't embrace Moore.
00:27:21.000 So what exactly did the Democrats do?
00:27:22.000 So now the Democrats are trying to walk it back.
00:27:24.000 The Democrats don't want to be in a position of calling on Trump to resign, number one.
00:27:27.000 And number two, the Democrats don't actually want to lose half their senators because of sexual harassment allegations when the Republicans don't have to do the same thing.
00:27:35.000 Remember, Roy Moore lost, so it doesn't look like the Republicans support sexual abuse and harassment.
00:27:40.000 Okay, so that's actually a political win in some ways for the Republicans.
00:27:43.000 So now there are four separate Democratic senators who are saying they want Al Franken to stay, because they're afraid of the precedent that this is going to set.
00:27:49.000 Showing once again that, as I said two weeks ago, this is not about seizing the moral high ground, it was about seizing the political high ground.
00:27:55.000 The Democrats now think they don't have the political high ground, so they want Franken reinstated.
00:28:00.000 Joe Manchin of West Virginia, he said, quote,
00:28:16.000 Pat Leahy, the not-case Democrat from Vermont.
00:28:18.000 He had called for Franken to leave.
00:28:20.000 Apparently he secretly told Franken he regrets doing so.
00:28:23.000 Two other senators who sided against Franken have apparently told Politico they'd like to see Franken stay.
00:28:28.000 So now the Democrats are trying to rehabilitate this guy who was photographed nearly grabbing a woman's boobs and has been apparently alleged multiple times to have grabbed women by the butt.
00:28:40.000 Now they're trying to rehabilitate that guy.
00:28:41.000 So the Democrats are a mess there.
00:28:44.000 Unbelievably enough, Chris Matthews has now been caught up in the sexual harassment scandal.
00:28:48.000 There are allegations that Chris Matthews, or as they say, paid a settlement to a former employee.
00:28:53.000 Apparently what happened is that according to Daily Caller, Chris Matthews had got up in the morning, come out of the show, went in the office, and said a bunch of sexist things to women.
00:29:02.000 Unbelievable!
00:29:04.000 This is what they said over on NBC.
00:29:07.000 This is what they had to say.
00:29:17.000 Matthews was making inappropriate jokes and comments to this female staffer in front of other people.
00:29:23.000 NBC News reported that a confidentiality agreement could not reveal the amount given to the staffer, but the Daily Caller reported that it was $40,000.
00:29:31.000 An MSNBC spokesperson told NBC News that during that time, when the matter was brought up, Matthews also received a formal reprimand for what he did.
00:29:40.000 Alrighty, so now Chris Matthews is in trouble, and now it turns out that Linda Sarsour, shock of shock, is in trouble.
00:29:45.000 There's a story out today.
00:29:46.000 Again, the Democrats set this standard because they wanted the moral high ground on, they wanted the political high ground on sexual harassment, and now they're going to have to get rid of it because all of their own people are getting caught in the net.
00:29:55.000 According to the New York Post, controversial Muslim activist and Women's March organizer Linda Sarsour bullied an underling to cover up sex abuse allegations in her Brooklyn office.
00:30:06.000 Asmi Falfabab told the Daily Caller that a man repeatedly rubbed his crotch on her while she worked for the association under Sarsour in 2009.
00:30:15.000 But when Falfabab reported the abuse, Sarsour, a self-proclaimed feminist and co-founder of the Women's March organization, fat-shamed the woman and threatened to blacklist her from political jobs.
00:30:26.000 The woman told the website, quote,
00:30:36.000 Apparently the Daily Caller spoke with a bunch of other people about this and they confirmed it.
00:30:40.000 So it appears that women's march organizer and feminist icon Linda Sarsour was involved in all of this.
00:30:46.000 So the Democrats are now going to have to give up the moral high ground to regain the political high ground and the irony is just too rich.
00:30:51.000 It'll be hilarious if Al Franken is the most well-known sexual abuser in the Senate after Roy Moore loses his Alabama Senate race and the Democrats end up with the egg on their face for having to re-embrace a guy who they threw overboard five seconds ago.
00:31:04.000 Well, in just a second, I want to talk about things I like and things I hate.
00:31:09.000 But, you know, I want to actually reverse that today.
00:31:13.000 So the way that I'm going to do things today, because I have such a long take on Star Wars, is I want to start with our discussion of the Federalist Papers.
00:31:20.000 So typically, we do the Federalist Papers at the end of the show, but now we're going to do the Federalist Papers a little bit earlier.
00:31:24.000 So we've been doing a Federalist Paper every week, and we are now up to Federalist Number 8.
00:31:28.000 So Federalist Number 8 is written by Alexander Hamilton.
00:31:32.000 And Alexander Hamilton in this Federalist paper discusses at length how American wars would be more bloody than European wars.
00:31:40.000 This is his excuse for saying that America needs to be one country as opposed to many.
00:31:46.000 So here is what Alexander Hamilton says.
00:31:49.000 In this country, the scene would be altogether reversed.
00:31:51.000 He says that we'd be more bloody than European wars, because in Europe, you have a bunch of small standing armies that basically fight one another, but they don't threaten civil liberties.
00:31:59.000 He says war in America would be a lot more common.
00:32:01.000 He says in this country, the scene would be altogether reversed.
00:32:03.000 The jealousy of military establishments would postpone them as long as possible.
00:32:07.000 In other words, he says that if there were ever to be wars inside the United States, they would be supremely bloody.
00:32:11.000 Of course, Alexander Hamilton ended up being right.
00:32:13.000 The bloodiest war in American history is still the Civil War.
00:32:36.000 He said also, that risk of invasion, the possibility that your state's going to be invaded by a neighboring state, would make people less free because we'd create standing armies.
00:32:44.000 Now, the founders were really skeptical of standing armies.
00:32:46.000 The founders were not happy with the idea of a professional army that was a huge percentage of the population.
00:32:52.000 They understood that there might be a need for a small professional army, but the idea of a standing army that was going to basically be quartering itself in people's homes, or there's a big draft, this is not something they were in love with.
00:33:04.000 Alexander Hamilton says the risk of invasion would make people less free.
00:33:07.000 He said, quote,
00:33:27.000 And he says that while standing armies are contemplated by the Constitution, with the lack of a Constitution they become certain.
00:33:32.000 He says frequency of invasion will make people less likely to protest lack of liberty.
00:33:37.000 He says there's a wide difference between military establishments in a country seldom exposed by its situation to internal invasions and in one in which it is often subject to them and always apprehensive of them.
00:33:47.000 So this is Alexander Hamilton's excuse for why we need one country, not many.
00:33:50.000 Constant war or the threat of constant war would make it very difficult for the United States to survive as a free country.
00:33:57.000 So that's basically Alexander Hamilton's argument there.
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00:35:28.000 Alrighty, so, time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.
00:35:32.000 I wanted to leave a lot of time for things I like and things I hate because I have many a thought on Star Wars.
00:35:35.000 And so I'm again going to reverse this.
00:35:37.000 So instead of doing the things I like first and then the things that I hate, I'm gonna do things I hate first and then the things that I like because I...
00:35:43.000 I don't know.
00:36:00.000 I'm gonna say all the, I'll do the entire show and then I'll get to my Star Wars review, and for people who want to stick around for that, then, you know, you won't be threatened by spoilers.
00:36:08.000 Okay, so, first, the thing that I hate.
00:36:10.000 So, there's this insane story that has now come out about an entire transgender family.
00:36:15.000 It's a local news station in Arizona, they've run a glowing piece on a family that is in transition.
00:36:20.000 As in, the whole family.
00:36:21.000 So you've got Daniel Herret, the father of the family, a 41-year-old biological female who identifies as a man.
00:36:28.000 And then, there's Daniel's daughter, Mason, an 11-year-old biological female who now identifies as a boy.
00:36:33.000 And his son, Josh, a 13-year-old biological male, who identifies as a girl.
00:36:40.000 Harriet's fiancé is also transgender.
00:36:42.000 Shirley Austin is a biological male, described as tall and blonde and smiley, who claims to be a woman.
00:36:47.000 So in this picture you can see the blonde woman is a man, the black-haired man is a woman, the boy wearing the black shirt is a girl, and the girl wearing the white shirt is a boy.
00:36:58.000 This is the case that they are now making.
00:37:01.000 Okay, so I have my doubts.
00:37:03.000 Let me just suggest.
00:37:04.000 I have my doubts that all of this is entirely genetic.
00:37:08.000 Okay, there's this argument that's been made that everyone who is transgender, there must be some genetic factor that turns everyone transgender.
00:37:13.000 The idea that everyone in this family is transgender and there's no environmental impact, that a parent deciding that sex is arbitrary and can be changed that has no impact on kids, it's just insane to me.
00:37:24.000 In the same way that the suggestion
00:37:26.000 That sexual orientation is completely genetic.
00:37:29.000 I'll admit that I think part of it is genetic, but the idea that all of sexual orientation is completely genetic, I find completely unconvincing, particularly because identical twins are not 100% of the time either gay or straight.
00:37:40.000 It's only about 50% of identical twins who are both gay or both, where both twins are gay.
00:37:46.000 Meaning that very often, identical twins who are biologically identical, one twin is gay and one twin is straight.
00:37:53.000 Which means there is an environmental component to this.
00:37:55.000 The point here is that if you have people who are preaching to their children that sex is completely malleable, and that a boy can be a girl and a girl can be a boy, this might be confusing to children.
00:38:04.000 And it might be damaging to children.
00:38:05.000 Because making a child gender dysphoric, heightening the chances your child is going to suffer from gender identity disorder, does not make their life easier, it makes it significantly worse and harder.
00:38:17.000 The reality is that maybe these kids are gay, right?
00:38:20.000 Sixteen to ninety percent of all kids who identify as transgender grow out of it, and most of them identify as gay or lesbian in the future.
00:38:26.000 But the idea that this entire family is just genetically gay, I mean, or rather just genetically transgender, I find very hard to credit.
00:38:35.000 If that were the case, transgenderism, I assume, would be a much wider phenomenon, and it is not, statistically speaking.
00:38:41.000 Josh says he was six or seven when he knew it was a girl.
00:38:44.000 I do wonder at what point Josh found out that his mother was in fact his father.
00:38:52.000 Daniel says that she knew she was trans, quote, Last year, Joshua wanted to join the Girl Scouts despite being raised a boy.
00:38:58.000 That's when Daniel was introduced to a word he'd never heard before, transgender.
00:39:01.000 When I finally looked it up, I realized, oh my gosh, they're trans and I know it's true because I am too and it's been my whole life.
00:39:06.000 Amazing how it never occurred to you until it turns out that other people in your family did that.
00:39:12.000 Confusing children is cruel.
00:39:16.000 Confusing children is evil.
00:39:17.000 Pretending that sex is completely malleable is evil.
00:39:21.000 And to subject children to this sort of activity is risky at best and harmful at worst.
00:39:28.000 Okay, so, time for some things that I like.
00:39:30.000 So, here it is, folks, your spoiler warning.
00:39:33.000 Okay, we've done your spoiler warning, you have been warned, and there's nothing I can do about it now.
00:39:37.000 If you've decided to go this far, you're gonna go with us the rest of the way.
00:39:40.000 Here's the preface, here's a little bit of the preview for Star Wars The Last Jedi, and then I have many a thought, many a thought indeed.
00:40:20.000 Something inside me has always been there.
00:40:27.000 OK, so when we last left off our saga, just to recap, we left off The Force Awakens.
00:40:32.000 So you can stop the preview there.
00:40:34.000 When we left The Force Awakens, Rey had randomly been amazing at everything.
00:40:39.000 She was the ultimate Mary Sue in science fiction literature.
00:40:42.000 She literally came out of nowhere and was incredible with a lightsaber, such that Kylo Ren, who was supposed to be a guy trained in his youth,
00:40:49.000 I don't know.
00:41:00.000 Which was the new Death Star, because every other movie we have to have a new Death Star, because no one ever has a practical new idea in the Star Wars universe, apparently.
00:41:07.000 Okay, and so we start off this movie, and basically, it's as though the Force Awakens never happened, essentially.
00:41:13.000 The First Order is still extraordinarily powerful, right?
00:41:16.000 This is the new Empire.
00:41:17.000 They're still extraordinarily powerful.
00:41:18.000 It didn't matter to them at all that their Death Star got blown up.
00:41:20.000 Nothing matters.
00:41:22.000 And the Rebel Alliance is on the run, so it's like Return of the Jedi, and it's like the entire Star Wars series never happened, right?
00:41:28.000 The Empire was never defeated.
00:41:29.000 We're basically starting from the exact same point we started in Episode 4, where the Empire is in control, and literally, it is the beginning of Star Wars Episode 4, right?
00:41:38.000 I mean, the Empire ship, the First Order ship, is chasing this transport vessel.
00:41:44.000 It's literally the beginning of Episode 4.
00:41:45.000 Okay, so, I'm gonna go through some of my minor problems with this, and then I will go through some of my major problems.
00:41:51.000 So, I'll go through my bad things about this movie, and then my good things about this movie.
00:41:55.000 Again, the first bad thing is The Force Awakens apparently never happened.
00:41:58.000 Now, I'd be fine with that.
00:41:59.000 I didn't like The Force Awakens.
00:42:00.000 I thought that it was a cheesy recasting.
00:42:02.000 My biggest problem with the entire series is they can't decide in Star Wars land whether they want it to benefit from nostalgia, whether they want to make it a nostalgia-centric series, or they want to launch something new.
00:42:12.000 And so they decided to do both.
00:42:13.000 And what they ended up doing in the process was killing all of the old things in preparation for the new.
00:42:19.000 And that's nasty to my childhood, okay?
00:42:21.000 I come for the nostalgia.
00:42:23.000 Because I thought that the first, you know, the new episodes that George Lucas made were terrible.
00:42:28.000 The stuff I like is episode 4, 5, 6, right?
00:42:30.000 The stuff that everybody likes is New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi.
00:42:34.000 Couldn't care less about Phantom Menace or Revenge of the Sith or any of that crap.
00:42:38.000 4, 5, and 6 are where it's at.
00:42:41.000 I grew up with Han Solo.
00:42:42.000 I grew up with Luke Skywalker.
00:42:43.000 I grew up with Princess Leia.
00:42:45.000 In fact, my sister's middle name, one of my sister's middle names is Leia because I was such a big Star Wars fan because my parents asked me what I thought her middle name should be and I picked Leia because I was a big Star Wars fan.
00:42:54.000 Okay, so I am a huge Star Wars nut.
00:42:57.000 In the last movie, they killed off Han Solo for no reason.
00:42:59.000 They turn Han Solo, who is one of the coolest, most roguish figures who becomes honorable in film lore, they turn him into a loser single dad who can't hold his crap together and gets killed by his whiny brat son for no reason at all.
00:43:14.000 I remember leaving the theater from The Force Awakens and thinking, oh, that wasn't so bad.
00:43:17.000 And then the more I thought about it, the more it made me want to tear my own teeth out.
00:43:21.000 So if The Force Awakens had never really happened, I'd be a much happier camper.
00:43:25.000 Also Han would be alive, which would be a lot better.
00:43:28.000 Okay, so it starts with that.
00:43:29.000 Then, the Force Awakens, again, ends with the idea that the First Order might finally be on the run a little bit.
00:43:37.000 They are not at all.
00:43:38.000 So, okay, number two.
00:43:39.000 These are minor problems, but there are some, like, basic kind of whole plot holes.
00:43:43.000 It starts off with these bombers, right?
00:43:45.000 These bombers that bomb a dreadnought.
00:43:48.000 And the bombers, apparently, gravity applies in space, which is weird.
00:43:53.000 Like, they actually just drop bombs onto the dreadnought in space.
00:43:57.000 So unless there's an actual gravitational field, which I assume would be pulling the bombers toward the dreadnought, which they're not, I don't understand how the bombs fall down onto the dreadnought.
00:44:08.000 It doesn't make any sense to me.
00:44:09.000 That is one problem.
00:44:10.000 That problem is also accompanied by another problem that is a logistical one near the end of the film.
00:44:15.000 One of the good people, Laura Dern, in a bizarre turn, decides that she is going to run a transport vessel through a Star Destroyer using light speed.
00:44:24.000 It's a cool image.
00:44:26.000 Why has no one ever thought of this in the history of Star Wars?
00:44:29.000 Especially because if you recall in Return of the Jedi, there is an actual scene where a Star Destroyer goes down because someone does a kamikaze run, right, on the Star Destroyer.
00:44:35.000 Remember this?
00:44:36.000 In Return of the Jedi?
00:44:37.000 One of the ships kind of flies out of control, boom, goes right through the control tower.
00:44:42.000 And down goes the entire Star Destroyer.
00:44:45.000 Why has no one ever thought to use light speed as a weapon?
00:44:49.000 You could just get rid of the entire first scene.
00:44:51.000 Or, if they knew that light speed was usable as a weapon, why would they sacrifice a couple of medical ships, right?
00:44:56.000 There's a point earlier in the film where a couple of ships basically run out of gas and they're blown apart by the First Order.
00:45:04.000 If they know they have this tactic available, why not just turn one of those ships around and run at light speed right through the Star Destroyer?
00:45:09.000 Like, this is the ultimate weapon in the universe.
00:45:11.000 You could take down the Death Star this way, but apparently this has never occurred to anyone until Laura Dern and her purple hair.
00:45:16.000 Okay, another problem.
00:45:18.000 Snoke.
00:45:19.000 Okay, so they make Snoke out to be the big baddie in The Force Awakens.
00:45:22.000 And they make it, he's the big baddie, he's the scary guy, he's the new emperor.
00:45:26.000 And he's so powerful in the force that he can turn Kylo Ren from afar, right?
00:45:29.000 He never even meets Kylo Ren and he turns Kylo Ren away from Luke.
00:45:32.000 That's how powerful he is.
00:45:33.000 And this film, they show that he's super powerful because Rey is super powerful in the force and he's like throwing her around like nothing, right?
00:45:38.000 He just stops her.
00:45:40.000 From doing anything.
00:45:41.000 Right?
00:45:42.000 He's super duper powerful.
00:45:44.000 You never find out who he is.
00:45:46.000 You never find out what motivates him.
00:45:47.000 You never find out where he came from.
00:45:49.000 And he gets killed like that, right?
00:45:51.000 He gets killed like a, literally a hot knife going through butter.
00:45:55.000 He literally gets killed with a little trick by Kylo Ren that is so cheesy and silly that it makes very little sense.
00:46:04.000 It makes sense in Return of the Jedi, right?
00:46:05.000 They have an exact Return of the Jedi scene where you have the good guy and the bad guy, and they're both in front of the Emperor.
00:46:10.000 Now, in Return of the Jedi, it makes sense.
00:46:12.000 The Emperor says to Luke, take up your lightsaber, strike me down, you'll become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
00:46:19.000 Luke does it, and Darth Vader stops him, right?
00:46:22.000 That's cool, and it's dramatic.
00:46:23.000 Here, Kylo Ren basically just activates it with his mind.
00:46:26.000 Somebody quipped, if only they had lightsaber trigger control, this never would have happened.
00:46:30.000 If only the NRA had not stumped for no gun locks on the lightsabers, then Snoke would still be alive.
00:46:37.000 But the big problem is, of course, you can't build up a big baddie like that and then not tell us who he is or why he's there.
00:46:45.000 Fourth problem.
00:46:45.000 Kylo Ren, who is now the only interesting character left in the Star Wars universe, because they've killed everyone.
00:46:50.000 It is not intimidating.
00:46:51.000 This is not a problem with this film.
00:46:53.000 This is a problem with The Force Awakens.
00:46:55.000 In The Force Awakens, remember, it takes Darth Vader three films, three, to lose a battle or to be convertible to the light side.
00:47:03.000 It takes him three films.
00:47:05.000 The first thing you see of Darth Vader is him literally blowing open a door and strangling somebody, picking him up off the ground and strangling him.
00:47:11.000 Then he dispatches Luke, the most powerful Jedi in history.
00:47:14.000 He dispatches Luke by chopping off his hand and beating the crap out of him in Empire Strikes Back.
00:47:20.000 Right, and he's basically beating Luke in Return of the Jedi until Luke basically taps into the dark side of the Force.
00:47:27.000 So it takes him three movies to get there.
00:47:29.000 Kylo Ren in the first five minutes of The Force Awakens, we find out, is conflicted, and then it turns out he can be bested by Rey, the ultimate Mary Sue, which means he's not scary.
00:47:37.000 If you're gonna have someone scary heading up the First Order, that person can't be defeatable by a girl who just picked up a lightsaber for the first time ever.
00:47:43.000 Now if you want to say the girl trained in it, fine, but she didn't train in it.
00:47:47.000 She just picked it up and she's fantastic at it.
00:47:50.000 Why exactly at this point in the film, at this point in the series, why should the Rebel Alliance be worried?
00:47:53.000 Like, I don't know where they go for Episode IX.
00:47:55.000 Why should they be worried?
00:47:56.000 Rey is significantly more powerful than Kylo.
00:47:58.000 We know this.
00:48:00.000 We've seen it.
00:48:01.000 So where's the competition now?
00:48:03.000 No clue.
00:48:04.000 And General Hux is not exactly terrifying.
00:48:06.000 Like, General Hux is not the Emperor.
00:48:08.000 Okay, another problem.
00:48:10.000 Rey's backstory is terrible.
00:48:12.000 Now, I understand what they were trying to do.
00:48:13.000 They were trying to make up for the fact that this movie... I feel bad for Rian Johnson, the director and the writer, because I feel like he was trying to make up for flaws in the other movies.
00:48:21.000 So, in this movie with Rey, they were basically trying to cure one of the problems that was created by George Lucas with his stupid-ass midichlorians nonsense.
00:48:29.000 So George Lucas had this whole thing about the Force runs in your bloodline, and this is how we know that you're powerful with the Force, and all this kind of stuff.
00:48:35.000 It was always dumb.
00:48:37.000 Well, the problem here is that they made a big deal out of the last movie.
00:48:41.000 Who is Rey?
00:48:41.000 Where did she come from?
00:48:42.000 And it seems like for some reason she knows Han.
00:48:45.000 There's this weird kind of relationship.
00:48:47.000 You remember this, Austin?
00:48:48.000 It seems like she knows Han in The Force Awakens.
00:48:50.000 It seems like everybody sort of knows who she is.
00:48:52.000 But then it turns out that she's just some girl from the middle of nowhere.
00:48:57.000 Which would have been fine, except you built it up like there was something interesting about her background.
00:49:00.000 So you picked literally the least interesting background for her that you could find.
00:49:04.000 And then, and I understand what you're trying to do.
00:49:05.000 You're trying to make it that everyone can be participants in the force.
00:49:08.000 We're trying to get out of Plato's Republic, where there are gradations of human, and into the democratic society where everyone can be a Jedi.
00:49:16.000 I get it, I get it.
00:49:17.000 But, it's not dramatic in any real way.
00:49:20.000 Okay, another problem.
00:49:22.000 I didn't need that entire scene of Luke milking a sea cow.
00:49:26.000 That was just weird.
00:49:28.000 It was just weird and gross, and I wasn't big on it.
00:49:30.000 But a bigger problem with Luke is that Luke happens to be an incredibly crappy teacher.
00:49:34.000 So, Luke actually is making a good point.
00:49:36.000 The Jedi do suck at everything, okay?
00:49:37.000 The Jedi were involved in the original creation of the Empire.
00:49:40.000 The Jedi did fail to stop the Sith.
00:49:42.000 They basically emboldened the Sith.
00:49:44.000 The Jedi were not particularly successful at maintaining the Republic, so they stunk at everything.
00:49:49.000 So Luke is right about this, but he's also a bad teacher, right?
00:49:51.000 Ray comes and he says, I'm going to offer you three lessons.
00:49:54.000 The first lesson is, the force exists.
00:49:56.000 The second lesson is, feel this rock.
00:49:58.000 And there is no third lesson, right?
00:50:01.000 Not a good teacher.
00:50:02.000 That guy gets a bad review on collegeprofessors.com.
00:50:07.000 Okay, and also, Yoda showing up.
00:50:09.000 I wasn't being honest.
00:50:10.000 Okay, another problem.
00:50:11.000 Celebrity cameos, as I mentioned before.
00:50:13.000 Laura Dern with purple hair, no.
00:50:15.000 And Benicio Del Toro, my god, man.
00:50:17.000 Okay, which brings us to that entire storyline.
00:50:19.000 No!
00:50:20.000 No!
00:50:20.000 That entire storyline, no!
00:50:22.000 Okay, that's an entire stupid storyline.
00:50:24.000 Laura Dern's character could have just told Poe Dameron, guess what?
00:50:27.000 We're gonna send a bunch of transports to this random planet.
00:50:30.000 Could they not have just done that?
00:50:31.000 Instead, she pretends like she has no plan, it's kind of evil, and then what happens is that Poe comes up with some stupid plan to go to intergalactic Monte Carlo with weird creatures that looks like it's from Harry Potter, and there are weird dog rabbits that run around, camel horses that run around, all so he can get a bunch of social justice warrior crap about income inequality.
00:50:54.000 And animal rights.
00:50:55.000 There was a line in this movie so bad that I legitimately was thinking about walking out of the theater.
00:51:00.000 There's a line in this movie.
00:51:02.000 We're after Finn, who is useless, right?
00:51:04.000 He is useless.
00:51:05.000 And Rose, who is double useless.
00:51:07.000 They go to this stupid planet, and then they free the animals who have been abused.
00:51:11.000 Oh, this is how we know the Rebels are good guys, because they don't like animals being abused, right?
00:51:15.000 Okay, great.
00:51:15.000 Okay, this is a far cry, by the way, from Empire Strikes Back, where Han literally cuts open the belly of a, of a, of a, what is it?
00:51:22.000 Of a Tauntaun, thank you.
00:51:23.000 And stuffs Luke inside of it, right?
00:51:27.000 Now, we have to make sure that all of the rights of the animals are upheld, because this is deeply important.
00:51:32.000 Listen, I'm for animal rights, but what does Star Wars have to do with animal rights?
00:51:34.000 Like, what the hell?
00:51:36.000 And Finn turns to Rose and he says, well, I guess it was worth it.
00:51:42.000 You mean losing the entire galaxy was worth you going there to free a few camel horses that will be recaptured five seconds from now?
00:51:48.000 Was that the thing that was worth it?
00:51:49.000 And then, the worst line in the film,
00:51:52.000 Rose turns to him, she takes a saddle off the camel horse dog, and she goes, now it's worth it.
00:52:00.000 What?
00:52:01.000 No, it's not.
00:52:02.000 Like, it's not.
00:52:04.000 Your whole job here is to get this hacker guy so you can go back to fake Death Star and hack the program.
00:52:11.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:52:13.000 Also, they should have killed Finn.
00:52:14.000 Okay, when Finn is riding at the end directly toward that giant blaster weapon, toward the battering ram.
00:52:20.000 He should have just died.
00:52:21.000 They should have killed him at the end of Force Awakens to add some gravitas.
00:52:24.000 This is my biggest problem.
00:52:25.000 They will not kill any of the new characters because they're trying to preserve the new characters.
00:52:28.000 Instead, they kill all of the old cool characters who I actually like.
00:52:32.000 I don't like Finn.
00:52:32.000 He's boring.
00:52:33.000 I don't care about Rose.
00:52:34.000 She's boring.
00:52:36.000 Rey is only not boring because she has interactions with Kylo Ren.
00:52:39.000 Everyone is boring in the new scenario, and they're killing off all of the cool characters who made this thing into a legacy in the first place.
00:52:45.000 Oh, which brings me to Rose.
00:52:47.000 Don't even get me started.
00:52:48.000 No.
00:52:48.000 No, no, no, no, no.
00:52:50.000 Okay, fine.
00:52:51.000 Okay, Captain Phasma also.
00:52:52.000 Like, was she supposed to be a thing?
00:52:53.000 Like, because she wasn't a thing.
00:52:55.000 No.
00:52:56.000 Okay, Captain Phasma was, like, she's there for five seconds.
00:52:59.000 She's dressed up as, as, you know, it's Brienne of Tarth dressed as Boba Fett.
00:53:04.000 She's supposed to be so cool.
00:53:05.000 Finn, the janitor, takes her out.
00:53:09.000 Fail.
00:53:10.000 Okay, and a few more criticisms, then I'll get to the good stuff, okay?
00:53:13.000 So, one other criticism about Luke.
00:53:16.000 The best moment in the movie, aside from the Kylo Ren, Rey team-up, which is the best part of the movie.
00:53:24.000 Aside from that, the best moment of the movie is the part where Luke strides out of the cave, and Kylo Ren has every AT-AT fire on him, and then Luke just walks right out of it, right?
00:53:35.000 Super cool.
00:53:37.000 They then destroy the coolness of this moment by having it be basically a hologram, right?
00:53:41.000 He was using astral projection, because he's still back at stupid planet.
00:53:46.000 Why would you do that?
00:53:47.000 Why would you do that?
00:53:48.000 The entire coolness of it is that he's actually there stopping the blasters.
00:53:51.000 It's not cool if they're just shooting a hologram, because holograms can't be damaged.
00:53:54.000 We all know that.
00:53:55.000 Why would you do that?
00:53:57.000 So in one case, the force is used in two ways in this film that we've never seen it used before and we'll never see it used again.
00:54:03.000 One, it apparently protects you from space death.
00:54:06.000 So Princess Leia gets blown out into space.
00:54:07.000 She's never used the Force at all that we've seen, except for one time when she used her mind to reach out to Luke's mind at the end of Empire.
00:54:15.000 And now she can suddenly rescue herself from space and fly, which is a cool thing, I guess.
00:54:20.000 Like, I didn't know this was a thing.
00:54:21.000 Also, if that were a thing, why wouldn't the Emperor use it at the end of Return of the Jedi?
00:54:26.000 Right, Darth Vader literally takes the Emperor and throws him down a wormhole, essentially.
00:54:29.000 He throws him down the shaft, the mineshaft, right?
00:54:32.000 Why wouldn't, if he can float, why wouldn't he just float?
00:54:35.000 I'm so confused by this.
00:54:35.000 Okay, so that is one force thing that we didn't know about.
00:54:38.000 A second force thing we didn't know about is this astral projection nonsense.
00:54:41.000 It's so much cooler if Luke is actually there.
00:54:44.000 And there's precedent for it, right?
00:54:45.000 You could actually build that in.
00:54:47.000 Because in Empire, you recall, there's a point where Han Solo is invited by Lando to dine with Darth Vader, and he takes out his blaster and he shoots Darth Vader, and Darth Vader goes like this and stops the blaster.
00:54:56.000 You remember this?
00:54:58.000 So Luke is significantly more powerful than Darth.
00:55:01.000 How much more powerful?
00:55:01.000 Well, we would find out if they were actually there and he stopped a bunch of AT-AT barrage.
00:55:06.000 Right?
00:55:06.000 That would be amazing.
00:55:08.000 That's true, Kylo does do that in Force Awakens.
00:55:10.000 Kylo does stop a blaster in Force Awakens, that's correct.
00:55:12.000 He stops it in the air, right?
00:55:14.000 Yeah.
00:55:15.000 So Kylo can do it, but Luke has to be a hologram?
00:55:17.000 Why, why, why?
00:55:18.000 Okay.
00:55:19.000 Finally, this is the biggest problem.
00:55:22.000 Kylo should have sided with Rey.
00:55:24.000 If you're going to do something new, you cannot just redo the original trilogy by having Kylo be Darth Vader, he's just like Anakin, he was conflicted, and now he's bad, and Rey is always good, and blah blah blah.
00:55:35.000 You can't do that.
00:55:36.000 They were building up for this too, right?
00:55:38.000 Like, there's a point where Luke explicitly says that Rey does not resist the dark side.
00:55:44.000 And there's a point where he says that.
00:55:45.000 And you think, OK, well, maybe the dark side and the light side are actually one force.
00:55:49.000 There's this theory in the Star Wars universe.
00:55:52.000 And then there's that great moment where Kylo and Rey team up.
00:55:57.000 And you think, this is changing the entire nature of the Star Wars universe.
00:56:00.000 You've never seen this before.
00:56:01.000 The only team up you've ever seen is when Darth Vader makes a final decision right before he dies to toss the Emperor down the mineshaft.
00:56:05.000 That's the only time you've seen this in the Star Wars universe.
00:56:09.000 And it's super cool.
00:56:10.000 When I was in the theater, it's packed theater on Saturday night.
00:56:14.000 And the audience burst into applause.
00:56:16.000 Right?
00:56:16.000 The audience started applauding.
00:56:17.000 Everyone was blown away by that scene, right?
00:56:19.000 It's a great scene.
00:56:20.000 All the way up to and including the whole thing where Ray tosses him the lightsaber and he goes, doom, and activates it right through the guy's face.
00:56:26.000 Right?
00:56:27.000 That whole scene is great.
00:56:27.000 And then you immediately blow it?
00:56:30.000 Then you immediately blow it?
00:56:31.000 Because there's no real motivation for Kylo to say, let the transports all be wiped out still.
00:56:36.000 There's no motivation there.
00:56:37.000 Who cares?
00:56:38.000 Five seconds before this, he refused to fire on his mother.
00:56:42.000 Five seconds.
00:56:44.000 He's not the one who blew Princess Leia out into space.
00:56:46.000 He refused to do it.
00:56:46.000 So why does he want to kill her now?
00:56:48.000 Now he wants to kill her?
00:56:49.000 It doesn't make any sense.
00:56:50.000 So that's all the criticism.
00:56:51.000 Here's what's right with the film.
00:56:52.000 Number one, it is better than The Force Awakens.
00:56:54.000 The Force Awakens, for me, was just a disaster all the way through.
00:57:00.000 The reason being that, again, they took Han Solo and made him uncool.
00:57:02.000 Luke doesn't end up uncool in this thing.
00:57:05.000 Luke is cool.
00:57:06.000 I just think that his death is a little wasted.
00:57:08.000 Second, the Kylo-Rey connection really works.
00:57:10.000 This was something I didn't expect going into the film.
00:57:12.000 I thought, eh, Kylo, eh, Rey.
00:57:14.000 But the Kylo-Rey connection, they actually have some chemistry on screen.
00:57:17.000 And every scene where they're basically Skyping in to each other, all those scenes really work.
00:57:22.000 And the scene in the throne room really works.
00:57:24.000 The scene where they're working together, that's the coolest part.
00:57:26.000 And that's why you don't want it to end.
00:57:27.000 And that's why when it does end, you're annoyed, because they just went back to
00:57:31.000 Same old, same old.
00:57:31.000 Okay, that lightsaber battle also works, right?
00:57:35.000 That lightsaber battle is one of... Really, that scene is one of the best scenes in all of Star Wars canon.
00:57:40.000 Right, that one scene.
00:57:40.000 I'm not saying the movie.
00:57:41.000 I'm saying that one scene is one of the best things in all of Star Wars canon.
00:57:44.000 Where Kylo turns and suddenly he and Rey are on the same side.
00:57:47.000 It's really cathartic and it's really cool.
00:57:50.000 And finally, the final thing that works is Luke's final fade-out works, just because it's a throwback.
00:57:55.000 He actually gets a death that I guess is deserving.
00:57:59.000 A lot better than Han, right?
00:57:59.000 Han just gets stabbed through the belly and thrown down another one of these incessant mine shafts that seem to be everywhere in Star Wars universe.
00:58:07.000 But Luke actually gets to do the final tattoo in two suns, right?
00:58:10.000 Gazing off into the distance thing.
00:58:12.000 And that worked, and it's emotionally resonant.
00:58:13.000 I just wish you weren't dead, because I think that it was a waste of death.
00:58:16.000 They should have ended the film probably after the Kylo Ray scene, and they should have made the entire
00:58:20.000 Final part of that movie, the third movie.
00:58:22.000 That's probably what they should have done.
00:58:23.000 Okay, so, is it worth seeing?
00:58:25.000 Well, if you've watched this far, you've already seen it, because you've heard all the spoilers.
00:58:28.000 But, my biggest problem now is that I actually think this is the end of the Star Wars universe.
00:58:32.000 I think that this is the end of where Star Wars can go.
00:58:36.000 Because now, all the old characters are dead.
00:58:39.000 We've reached the end of the Skywalker family, essentially.
00:58:41.000 Ben Solo is a thing, I guess, but Kylo is his own sort of character, and they're gonna kill Kylo in the next film for sure.
00:58:48.000 So why would I show up to watch a movie without Luke?
00:58:51.000 Leia's dead, right?
00:58:52.000 In real life, Carrie Fisher's dead.
00:58:54.000 Han is dead.
00:58:56.000 Where are they gonna go from here that's not just gonna be more typical
00:59:00.000 We're good to go.
00:59:24.000 Where would it go?
00:59:25.000 It sets up all these possibilities.
00:59:26.000 Instead, we're thrust back into sort of this binary universe where, okay, I guess Poe Dameron is going to take over for Carrie Fisher as the head of the rebellion, and Rey is going to be the new Luke, and Kylo's going to be the new Darth.
00:59:41.000 So I guess this sort of ends the canon.
00:59:43.000 But it did have some moments.
00:59:45.000 It did have some... Okay, so there is my full take.
00:59:47.000 I think that's a pretty fulsome take on Star Wars.
00:59:50.000 And if you have thoughts on that, you're always free to email me or tweet me and tell me that I am wrong.
00:59:54.000 But we will be back here tomorrow.
00:59:55.000 The Republicans are set to vote on taxes tomorrow.
00:59:57.000 So that will be interesting.
00:59:59.000 We'll give you all the details.
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