The Ben Shapiro Show - December 04, 2018


No Crimes And Misdemeanors | Ep. 672


Episode Stats

Length

49 minutes

Words per Minute

217.34508

Word Count

10,697

Sentence Count

706

Misogynist Sentences

8

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

What happens if the Mueller report comes up empty? Plus, we recap the H.W. Bush tribute ceremony, and discuss whether gender-reveal parties are cis-normative. This is The Ben Shapiro Show, where Ben talks about everything you need to know about the latest in the Mueller Report, including the latest on the latest leaks from the latest episode of the Russia investigation, and gives his thoughts on the George H. W. Bush memorial service. In a special bonus episode, Ben also talks about how to get a discount on your first set of bedding from BullandBranch, a company that makes quality bedding for presidents and other dignitaries. Go to bullandbranch.co/TheBenShapiroShow to get $50 off your First Set of Bed & Breakfast sheets! Go check it out right now! Ben Shapiro is the host of the show Ben Shapiro's new show on the Show on the Ben Shapiro Podcast, where he talks about all things politics, pop culture and pop culture, and everything else going on in the world. He's also a regular contributor to the New York Times, USA Today, CNN, CBS Radio, NPR, and the Wall Street Journal. And he's a frequent contributor to The Weekly Standard, The Huffington Post, and many other publications. Ben's new book Other Words For Smoke is out now. is out! Check out his new book, and you can find him on Amazon Prime Video, wherever you get your copy of The FiveThirtyEight. and wherever else you re listening to your favorite podcast is listening to the podcast. If you're looking for a good book recommendation, you can get a copy of his work, Ben Shapiro s latest work, listen to his podcast on the best work, be sure to check out his podcast, Ben's podcast is on the webcams, and much more! Thanks for listening to Ben Shapiro, Ben is also on the air on the Four Corners podcast, and Ben is on The Six Sigma podcast on The Fourteenth, The Six Figures Podcast, and he's also on The Five Fifty Fifty Cent Podcast, wherever else he's on the internet is cool, too! and he also has a good thing to go on the pod is great at it's not on Fourchan, and you should check him out on FourThirtyEight, FourThirty Eight, and He's got it on Fourcast, Four Fifty Cent, and more.


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00:00:00.000 What happens if the Mueller report comes up empty?
00:00:02.000 Plus, we recap the H.W.
00:00:04.000 Bush tribute ceremony and discuss whether gender-reveal parties are cis-normative.
00:00:09.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:00:10.000 This is the Ben Shapiro Show.
00:00:11.000 In just a second, we're going to recap the tribute ceremony that was held in Washington, D.C.
00:00:21.000 yesterday for George H.W.
00:00:22.000 Bush, the 41st President of the United States.
00:00:25.000 We're also going to go through the latest in the Mueller Report, because the fact is that more and more information keeps leaking, and there's this feeling that it's leading to a final conclusion here, so we'll preview all of that.
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00:01:40.000 Alrighty, so we begin today with a recap of the ceremony held for George H.W.
00:01:44.000 Bush.
00:01:46.000 In the Capitol Rotunda yesterday.
00:01:49.000 And it was, I think, a very meaningful, very nice ceremony.
00:01:53.000 People filing past the casket of George H.W.
00:01:57.000 Bush, American hero and 41st President of the United States.
00:02:00.000 Donald Trump came by to pay a visit, saluted the coffin.
00:02:04.000 President George W. Bush, of course, was there.
00:02:06.000 It was quite moving to watch George W. Bush saluting his father, obviously.
00:02:11.000 The AP says the nation's capital embraced George H.W. Bush in Death Monday with solemn ceremony and high tributes to his service and decency as the remains of the 41st president took their place in the Capitol Rotunda for three days of mourning and praised by the political elite and everyday citizens alike.
00:02:25.000 With Bush's casket atop the Lincoln catafalque, first used for Abraham Lincoln's 1865 funeral, dignitaries came forward to honor the Texan whose efforts for his country extended three quarters of a century from World War II through his final years as an advocate for volunteerism and relief for people displaced by natural disaster opportunities.
00:02:42.000 Obviously, President George H.W.
00:02:44.000 Bush died on Friday at age 94.
00:02:46.000 A bunch of luminaries paid tribute to him.
00:02:49.000 Representative Paul Ryan.
00:02:51.000 Said here lies a great man and a gentle soul.
00:02:52.000 His legacy is grace perfected.
00:02:55.000 Vice President Mike Pence spoke.
00:02:56.000 President Trump did not speak, which is probably a smart move, knowing that it would just be politicized immediately.
00:03:00.000 Anyway, here is a little bit of Vice President Mike Pence giving what I think was one of his finest speeches of his political career in tribute to George H.W. Bush.
00:03:07.000 All of his 94 years, President Bush never lost his love of adventure.
00:03:12.000 And he never failed to answer the call to serve his country.
00:03:17.000 When President George Herbert Walker Bush left office, he left America and the world more peaceful, prosperous, and secure.
00:03:27.000 President Bush was a great leader who made a great difference in the life of this nation.
00:03:35.000 But he was also just a good man.
00:03:42.000 who was devoted to his wife, his family, and his friends.
00:03:45.000 We had a discussion yesterday.
00:03:46.000 We had a special that was me and Jeremy Boring and Andrew Klavan and, for some reason, Michael Moles.
00:03:53.000 We were talking about George H.W. Bush.
00:03:54.000 And it strikes me that it is much harder in life to actually be a good man than it is to be a great man.
00:04:00.000 To be a great man, meaning a remembered person, a person who shaped the lives of millions of people requires a couple of things.
00:04:06.000 You have to be in a position of power, and you have to be in a position where a crisis is sort of thrust upon you.
00:04:10.000 When we think of the great leaders in American history, we think of George Washington, or Abraham Lincoln, who had to ride out the Civil War, or FDR, who had to ride out World War II and the Great Depression.
00:04:19.000 We tend to think of Ronald Reagan, who faced down the Soviet Union.
00:04:22.000 A lot of being great is sort of a response to circumstance.
00:04:26.000 Winston Churchill, facing down the Nazis in World War II.
00:04:29.000 But being a good man is a different thing.
00:04:31.000 And I think George H.W.
00:04:32.000 Bush, I'm not sure that he was a great man in the sense that he shaped the lives of millions of people and will be considered an important world leader in the great span of history.
00:04:41.000 But I think he was a very good man.
00:04:42.000 And being a good man is a lot more difficult in a lot of ways because it means more anonymity.
00:04:46.000 It means a certain level of humility.
00:04:48.000 Like to be a great president, It used to be that being a great president required many of the qualities of being a good man.
00:04:54.000 It used to be that being a great president required humility, electoral humility, legislative humility, a feeling that you were there to guard and protect, but not to change, that basically your job was to be a manager, a caretaker.
00:05:05.000 So Calvin Coolidge, in my opinion, a great president and a good man.
00:05:09.000 And I think that there was crossover between being humble and not needing to be in the spotlight all the time and not being concerned with being seen as a great moral visionary or somebody transforming the country.
00:05:20.000 And then as government grew, and as government became more powerful, and as we started to abandon a lot of our social institutions, we stopped looking for the good people in our own life to model our behaviors after, and instead we started looking for the great man to lead us.
00:05:32.000 And that has required a different set of people to be President of the United States, people who may not be as good in general.
00:05:38.000 People who do have sort of world beating ideological visions, people who are not as concerned with simply managing America and keeping out of harm's way and staying out of everybody's business, and much more are interested in shaping the country, transforming the country, fundamentally rewriting the country.
00:05:56.000 That's a tragedy for the country, and it also, it gives a lie, I think.
00:06:01.000 It demonstrates that being a good man and being a great president, not the same thing.
00:06:05.000 But being a good man is, again, harder.
00:06:07.000 You know, it's interesting.
00:06:08.000 I was reading a book by a famous rabbi, and he was specifically talking about why there are so many famous rabbis of the past who didn't write books.
00:06:15.000 Many, many famous rabbis are not known for their writing.
00:06:18.000 They're known for sort of their old lectures that were taken down by people who would transcribe them.
00:06:22.000 Rabbi Joseph Soloveitchik, a very famous rabbi, Talked about this.
00:06:25.000 He said that one of the reasons that he didn't write more is because he felt it was an act of arrogance because he was just one person in the great span of history and to arrogantly ascribe his beliefs to a name to try and outlive himself would be an act of arrogance.
00:06:39.000 Being good requires making all the daily decisions that make your family stronger to do all the things on a daily level that nobody's going to know about.
00:06:48.000 It's very funny.
00:06:49.000 Whenever we talk about the folks in our lives who made a big difference, we say things like, well, you know, my dad, who, and my father, I mean, like, when we talk about our own parents, we tend to say things like, my parents are great, and that's what really counts, because that's what will be remembered.
00:07:04.000 But the truth is, that won't be remembered.
00:07:06.000 Three generations from now, three generations from now, I don't think that the actions that my grandfather took or my great-grandfather took will be remembered.
00:07:16.000 I'm not sure that people remember much about my great-grandfather.
00:07:19.000 I certainly didn't know the man.
00:07:21.000 But I do know that all of the small actions that he took led to this time.
00:07:25.000 And so being a good man, in many cases, is what keeps civilization going, while being a great man may keep civilization alive in times of crisis.
00:07:31.000 It requires good men to prevent those crises in the first place.
00:07:35.000 I think George H.W.
00:07:35.000 Bush was a very good man, even if I'm not sure that he was a great president.
00:07:40.000 With all of that said, the left has decided that they can't stand all the warm feelings for George H.W.
00:07:45.000 Bush, at least some members of the left.
00:07:47.000 We've gotten the dumbest versions of the left coming out and saying incredibly stupid things.
00:07:52.000 The stupidest thing yesterday was this article from Slate about Sully H.W.
00:07:57.000 Bush.
00:07:57.000 So this dog, Sully, is a service dog.
00:08:00.000 And there's a picture that was going around of the service dog that was lying near the president's casket.
00:08:07.000 And according to Mediaite, that a part of President's Labrador retriever had captivated political observers for the last few days as the nation mourns the ex-president's passing, people became particularly enamored with the dog thanks to a widely circulated photo of him lying in front of his owner's casket.
00:08:21.000 Thus, Slate published a piece titled, Don't Spend Your Emotional Energy on Sully H.W.
00:08:27.000 Bush.
00:08:28.000 It's not enough to attack H.W., we've got to attack his dog.
00:08:32.000 So Ruth Graham writes a piece talking about how this dog only knew George H.W.
00:08:37.000 Bush for six months.
00:08:39.000 On Sunday night, George H.W.
00:08:40.000 Bush spokesman Jim McGrath posted a photograph to Twitter depicting a golden Labrador named Sully resting in front of the former president's casket.
00:08:46.000 The caption read, Mission Complete.
00:08:48.000 Within hours, Sully the dog had become a bona fide celebrity.
00:08:51.000 McGrath's sentiment has been retweeted 61,000 times and counting, and Sully was trending on Twitter at various times on Monday.
00:08:57.000 C-SPAN covered the dog's arrival at Joint Base Andrews in Maryland on Monday afternoon.
00:09:01.000 The picture of the dog lying in front of the casket was covered by outlets from Fox News to NPR, but But this is not reality.
00:09:08.000 Many suggested Sully was heartbroken or that they themselves were crying over the photo.
00:09:11.000 Conservative writer Dan McLaughlin compared the dog to a marine.
00:09:14.000 There's nothing wrong with applying sentimentality when it comes to family pets reacting to their owner's death.
00:09:19.000 But Sully is not a longtime Bush family pet, letting go of the only master he has known.
00:09:23.000 He is an employee who served for less than six months.
00:09:27.000 Hey, if this is how you spent your day, writing this think piece for Slate, may I suggest that you find another line of calling?
00:09:36.000 My goodness!
00:09:37.000 Sully's Instagram account and several mainstream news outlets referred to him as Sully H.W.
00:09:41.000 Bush.
00:09:41.000 His bio also says he's making his forever home at Walker's Point.
00:09:44.000 But Monday morning, just a few days after his owner died, Bush's son George W. Bush announced that Sully is heading to his next assignment, Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in Maryland, because he is an ambassador for a New York-based nonprofit called America's Vet Dogs, which trains guide and service dogs for military veterans.
00:10:00.000 It's wonderful for Bush to have a trained service animal like Sully available to him in its last month, but it's a bit demented to project soul-wrenching grief onto a dog's decision to lie down in front of a casket.
00:10:09.000 And now, listen, I'm not a dog person, right?
00:10:11.000 I don't own a dog.
00:10:12.000 I'm not a person who, by and large, likes dogs.
00:10:15.000 But if you are, like, ripping on a service dog for lying in front of the casket of a master that he just served for six months, That's pretty demented.
00:10:25.000 That's pretty demented.
00:10:26.000 But that was not the only evidence of the left being demented yesterday.
00:10:29.000 Joy Behar, who is just out of her mind, she apparently took it upon herself to bash President Trump during a segment about George H.W.
00:10:36.000 Bush because this is really what the left wanted to do.
00:10:39.000 I mean, the reality is, what the left really wanted out of this whole George H.W.
00:10:43.000 Bush spectacle, out of the entire hagiography for George H.W.
00:10:46.000 Bush, was to rip on President Trump.
00:10:49.000 We talked about this yesterday.
00:10:50.000 They wanted to juxtapose the class and goodness of H.W.
00:10:53.000 Bush with President Trump, who is not the classiest best dude.
00:10:57.000 Right?
00:10:57.000 That was their whole goal here.
00:10:58.000 So, Joy Behar started to go off on it, and Meghan McCain basically stopped her cold.
00:11:03.000 This president that we have now is trying to unravel everything that he did and Obama did.
00:11:08.000 And if I ever become a one-issue voter, it will be about pollution, and the greenhouse effect, and the fact that- Can we focus on the president, please?
00:11:16.000 I don't want to talk about Trump when we're in the moment of- Excuse me a second, please.
00:11:22.000 I want to talk about- But I'm not interested in your one-issue voter.
00:11:26.000 I don't care what you're interested in.
00:11:28.000 I don't care what you're interested in either.
00:11:29.000 We'll be right back.
00:11:32.000 When Whoopi Goldberg is jumping in to stop the fight, then you know things have gone wildly wrong.
00:11:36.000 Apparently, it got even worse.
00:11:38.000 According to a source, they told the Daily Mail that Behar threw her hands in the air as soon as the producers muted Behar's mic.
00:11:45.000 They actually muted Behar's mic because she would not get under control.
00:11:48.000 And the source told Daily Mail, Behar threw her hands in the air and yelled, my God, and get this B word under control.
00:11:53.000 And she said, if this bleep doesn't stop, I'm quitting this damn show.
00:11:57.000 I can't take this much more.
00:11:59.000 He says, I've tolerated a lot of bleep on this show, but I'm at my wits end with this entitled B word.
00:12:03.000 Enough already.
00:12:04.000 Enough already.
00:12:04.000 I'm not playing nice any longer, Behar shouted, despite the studio audience being able to hear it all.
00:12:10.000 How dare Meghan McCain, how dare Meghan McCain say, let's not talk about Trump's pollution record?
00:12:17.000 While we're talking about the death of George H.W.
00:12:19.000 Bush.
00:12:20.000 Amazing, amazing stuff.
00:12:21.000 I'll give you more on Joy Behar's demented response to Meghan McCain in just one second.
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00:13:44.000 So, Meghan McCain, apparently, and Joy Behar continued to get into it.
00:13:49.000 Apparently, McCain reportedly said, I don't know why she's so upset.
00:13:53.000 I just wanted her to focus on President Bush and not bring Trump into this for once.
00:13:57.000 While hair and makeup people attempted to groom both of the hosts, producers tried to calm Behar down before returning from commercial break.
00:14:03.000 Everyone was frantic, this is according to the Guardian or the Daily Mail.
00:14:06.000 The last thing they wanted was for Joy to walk off the show.
00:14:08.000 She's done that before.
00:14:08.000 Remember the Bill O'Reilly situation?
00:14:10.000 She appeared just as disgusted as she did that day.
00:14:12.000 They only had two minutes to contain this explosion on set and get everyone positioned to return for the next live segment.
00:14:17.000 It was utter chaos on set.
00:14:19.000 Now, listen, I've been part of group shows.
00:14:21.000 With people on the left, and sometimes those people get angry, and I've had situations where those people have walked out of the room not naming any names, but just because that is the way that people on the left sometimes act in these situations does not mean that Joy Behar is not insane, okay?
00:14:35.000 George H.W.
00:14:35.000 Bush dies.
00:14:36.000 She's ripping on Trump about pollution.
00:14:38.000 Meghan McCain, who knows a few things, by the way, about prominent Republicans dying in the recent past, says maybe we should pay attention to the guy who just died.
00:14:45.000 And Behar loses her bleep.
00:14:47.000 That's because, for the left, H.W.
00:14:49.000 is just another vehicle for attacking President Trump.
00:14:52.000 That's really what is going on here.
00:14:54.000 And we all know it.
00:14:55.000 And it's not just, you know, on silly things like pollution.
00:14:58.000 The latest example, Catherine Rample is a columnist over at the Washington Post and she pays tribute to H.W.
00:15:04.000 Bush because H.W.
00:15:05.000 Bush was the last of his kind.
00:15:07.000 Why?
00:15:08.000 Because he understood that tax cuts were voodoo economics.
00:15:12.000 So now we're going to praise, now the idea is I guess that we are going to praise George H.W.
00:15:16.000 Bush for being an establishment Republican.
00:15:18.000 And you knew it was always going to come around to this.
00:15:20.000 It was going to start with what a classy dude that guy was.
00:15:22.000 I mean, just what class he was.
00:15:24.000 And then eventually it was going to turn into because Trump is a jerk and also because George H.W.
00:15:29.000 Bush was more moderate.
00:15:31.000 Amazing how they say to all these people as soon as they leave office.
00:15:34.000 Pretty incredible stuff.
00:15:35.000 Well, in just a second, I want to talk about why it is that George H.W.
00:15:40.000 Bush's tenure eventually led to the Trump tenure.
00:15:42.000 It's a long chain.
00:15:44.000 But here's here's really how this began.
00:15:46.000 So George H.W.
00:15:47.000 Bush was a moderate establishment Republican.
00:15:50.000 He did not see tax cuts as spurring the economy.
00:15:53.000 He did not believe that tax cuts would increase tax receipts, which they do.
00:15:56.000 The lie that it is voodoo economics that tax cuts lead to increased tax receipts, that is just not true.
00:16:02.000 Every time tax cuts have led to increased tax receipts, the problem is we've never brought our spending under control.
00:16:08.000 Well, because George H.W.
00:16:09.000 Bush was so eager to capitulate to Democrats from 1988 to 1992, and then because George W. Bush cut a bunch of deals with Democrats when he was in office, and then because Democrats decided from 2008 to 2016 they were not going to make any deals with the Republicans and were instead going to cram down the purest form they could get through their own caucus on every single issue, eventually Republicans said, this Republican Party doesn't do anything.
00:16:32.000 Put the guy in charge who will just wreck things.
00:16:35.000 And the problem is that this has not actually cured the Republican Party's inability to get anything done.
00:16:41.000 So let's be frank about this.
00:16:43.000 The Republican Party has been in charge of Congress, in charge of the House of Representatives, since 2010, from 2010 to 2018.
00:16:50.000 And most of that was dedicated to stopping President Obama's hardcore agenda, which I think that the House largely did.
00:16:56.000 Then we got to 2016 through 2018, and the Republicans controlled the House, they controlled the Senate, and they controlled the presidency.
00:17:02.000 They couldn't even stop the funding for Planned Parenthood.
00:17:05.000 And so all the talk about Republicans and their ability to get things done, it is Republican inability to get things done that led to the frustration that brought about Trump, because there were promises made and those promises simply were not kept.
00:17:17.000 It's why so many members of the base are willing to grant President Trump a lot of leeway, because they feel like at least President Trump is making promises that he's attempting to keep.
00:17:26.000 Now, have those promises actually been kept?
00:17:29.000 No, but Trump, I think, can pretty cleanly say that a lot of those promises haven't been kept because Republicans in the House and Senate have not given him what he wanted.
00:17:37.000 So, for example, Trump says, I want to build the wall.
00:17:39.000 The House does not fund it.
00:17:40.000 The Senate does not fund it.
00:17:42.000 President Trump said he was going to defund Planned Parenthood.
00:17:44.000 That has not happened either.
00:17:45.000 He wanted to make the tax cuts permanent.
00:17:47.000 That did not happen either.
00:17:48.000 By the way, there's no excuse for the fact That the session, the congressional session ends later this week.
00:17:54.000 They have a couple of days later this week.
00:17:55.000 They have some, I believe, some session days next week.
00:17:57.000 Why they're not working while they still have a Republican House on making the tax cuts permanent is beyond me.
00:18:03.000 But they're not doing any of that stuff.
00:18:04.000 And it's exactly that sort of mentality.
00:18:07.000 We can't ram things through.
00:18:08.000 That'll lead to a backlash that led to President Trump in the first place.
00:18:11.000 So for all the folks who are saying, well, look how, look how the Republic has declined.
00:18:15.000 Look how the temperament has declined.
00:18:17.000 You know why?
00:18:18.000 Because in 2012, I think 2012 in a lot of ways broke the country, in 2012 Republicans ran a guy who was by many measures extraordinarily moderate, in 2008 they ran a guy who by many measures was extraordinarily moderate, both of those guys were considered to be classy gentlemen, both of them lost.
00:18:32.000 And then the Democrats said that they were not in fact moderate, they were radicals, and not only were they radical, they were mean, nasty, and cruel.
00:18:39.000 And so Republicans responded to years and years and years of running moderate candidate after moderate candidate, Who has class and decency year after year.
00:18:48.000 And then they're like, you know what?
00:18:49.000 We never win.
00:18:50.000 And then Trump comes along, says, I pledge to you, I will win.
00:18:53.000 And then in 2016, he did win.
00:18:55.000 And that was taken as evidence that all of the all of the moderation and all of the class were actually inhibitory to victory.
00:19:02.000 Now, I don't think that that was a proper conclusion to draw.
00:19:04.000 I think you can be classy and you can also be a knife fighter.
00:19:06.000 But with that said, to ignore the history that led up to to ignore that history did lead Through the perception of George H.W.
00:19:16.000 Bush as an establishment guy, to George W. Bush as an establishment guy, to John McCain and Bob Dole and Mitt Romney as establishment guys, all the way up to Donald Trump, whose anti-establishment is to ignore the stream of history that led us to this point in time.
00:19:32.000 And it's why there was a backlash, right?
00:19:33.000 Dick Cheney was talking about George H.W.
00:19:37.000 Bush and the partisan rancor on CNN the other night.
00:19:40.000 And it is amazing to me to watch as Republicans like Dick Cheney, right, who spent a lot of time working with Democrats.
00:19:45.000 As I've mentioned, Hollywood's making a movie about Dick Cheney right now called Vice by Adam McKay.
00:19:49.000 It's going to be a hit piece on Dick Cheney about how evil and Machiavellian he is.
00:19:53.000 And there's Dick Cheney talking about, well, there used to be a better time in history.
00:19:56.000 Those of us in the grassroots base don't remember a better time when Democrats actually treated Republicans well.
00:20:00.000 We just think that establishment Republicans are delusional when they talk about this time.
00:20:04.000 But Dick Cheney says, no, no, no, there was a better time.
00:20:06.000 It was so much better before.
00:20:08.000 Not sure that's the case.
00:20:10.000 Is all of this goodwill that we're seeing going to make a difference as far as Washington is concerned?
00:20:17.000 I don't know, Wolf.
00:20:18.000 I hope so.
00:20:20.000 It's a different feel when you get this group of people around you and we're interacting with one another.
00:20:26.000 It's a warmer, friendlier, we're reminiscing.
00:20:31.000 Of course, we're not in charge now.
00:20:32.000 We're not in control of anything.
00:20:35.000 But it was a different era.
00:20:37.000 Okay, so, you know, again, this idea, it was a different era.
00:20:40.000 It was different then.
00:20:41.000 They said all these terrible things about H.W.
00:20:43.000 They called him a racist.
00:20:44.000 They said the same stuff about Ronald Reagan.
00:20:45.000 They called him a racist and a buffoon and a crazy person.
00:20:49.000 No.
00:20:49.000 Things were not different.
00:20:50.000 It's just that Republicans were much more conciliatory in action as well as in deed.
00:20:54.000 Trump is not conciliatory in action or deed, which is why he is heavily popular with the base.
00:20:58.000 First, let's talk about how you can be dressed better than anyone else at your holiday party this year.
00:21:01.000 on Russiagate.
00:21:03.000 People still hoping that Robert Mueller is going to bring down the president.
00:21:05.000 I'm not so sure, but we're going to discuss the latest allegations in just a second.
00:21:09.000 First, let's talk about how you can be dressed better than anyone else at your holiday party this year.
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00:22:33.000 Okay, so...
00:22:34.000 As we move forward with this high level of loyalty by Republicans toward President Trump, We are headed for a showdown over the Mueller investigation.
00:22:44.000 According to Michael Isikoff, reporting for Yahoo News, he says, Special Counsel Robert Mueller's prosecutors have told defense lawyers in recent weeks that they are tying up loose ends in their investigation, providing the clearest clues yet that the long-running Russia probe in the 2016 election may be coming to its climax, potentially in the next few weeks, according to multiple sources close to the matter.
00:23:07.000 The new information about the state of Mueller's investigation comes during a pivotal week in which the special counsel's prosecutors are planning to file memos about three of their most high-profile defendants, former Trump National Security Advisor Michael Flynn, former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, and former Trump personal lawyer Michael Cohen.
00:23:22.000 A Flynn sentencing memo is due on Tuesday.
00:23:25.000 Memos about Manafort and Cohen are slated for Friday.
00:23:27.000 All three documents are expected to yield significant new details on what cooperation the three of them provided to the Russia investigation.
00:23:35.000 There's been a lot of speculation that Mueller might file his memo in Manafort's case under seal to prevent public disclosure of the additional crimes his office believes Manafort committed when he allegedly lied to prosecutors and broke a plea deal after agreeing to cooperate.
00:23:46.000 That would be the juiciest part.
00:23:48.000 The juiciest part would obviously be what Manafort lied to prosecutors about, because presumably that's his coordination with the Trump legal team.
00:23:55.000 But Peter Carr, spokesman for the special counsel, confirmed to Yahoo News on Monday the Manafort memo will be public, although he added there could be some portions that are redacted or filed as a sealed addendum.
00:24:04.000 The Manafort memo has been requested by the federal judge in his case so that prosecutors could, for the first time, spell out what matters they believe Manafort has lied to them about.
00:24:12.000 The fact that Mueller is planning a public filing about Manafort suggests he may no longer feel the need to withhold information about his case in order to bring additional indictments against others, which means that this thing is coming to its close.
00:24:23.000 They've been telling people they're tying up loose ends and trying to conclude, said one source familiar with the communications between Mueller's office and defense lawyers.
00:24:29.000 That message was reinforced to some degree on Monday.
00:24:32.000 When Mueller's office talked to congressional investigators as part of an ongoing discussion about whether new subpoenas for testimony by House and Senate committees might interfere with Mueller's investigation.
00:24:41.000 The response, which surprised one investigator, was that it would not, at least in matters relating to obstruction by the White House in the Russia investigation itself.
00:24:48.000 What we were told is that the investigation has reached a mature enough stage that they've basically talked to everybody they want to talk to, said a knowledgeable source.
00:24:56.000 Mueller's office is declining public comment when asked to confirm this account, so it could be that there are a few more witnesses out.
00:25:04.000 By all accounts, last week's guilty plea by former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen was one of Mueller's more significant documents.
00:25:09.000 Cohen is due to be sentenced in federal court in New York next week.
00:25:12.000 The only publicly known matter Mueller is believed to be focused on relates to Trump advisor Roger Stone and conspiracy theory Jerome Corsi.
00:25:19.000 So we're going to find out more this week about exactly what Mueller has.
00:25:24.000 But all of this raises the possibility that Mueller doesn't actually have that much either.
00:25:29.000 So I know everybody is speculating that Mueller has everything, but I'm not sure that that is the case.
00:25:35.000 I want to get to that theory in just a second.
00:25:36.000 But first, the New York Times is also reporting that in mid-May 2017, Paul Manafort, facing intensifying pressure to settle debts and pay mounting legal bills, flew to ecuador to offer his services to a potentially lucrative new client the country's incoming president lenin moreno mr manafort made the trip made the trip mainly to see if he could broker a deal under which china would invest in ecuador's power system possibly yielding a fat commission for manafort but the talks turned to a diplomatic sticking point between the u.s.
00:26:02.000 and Ecuador, the fate of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.
00:26:05.000 In at least two meetings with Manafort, Mr. Moreno and his aides discussed their desire to rid themselves of Mr. Manafort.
00:26:10.000 They said Manafort suggested he could help negotiate a deal for the handover of Mr. Assange to the United States, which has long investigated Assange for the disclosure of secret documents.
00:26:19.000 Within a couple of days of Mr. Manafort's final meeting, Robert Mueller was appointed as special counsel to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 election, and it quickly became clear that Manafort was a primary target.
00:26:30.000 There is no evidence, I love that this is buried deep down in the New York Times article, there is no evidence that Mr. Manafort was working with or even briefing President Trump or other administration officials on his discussions with the Ecuadorians about Mr. Assange.
00:26:42.000 So, what does all of this mean?
00:26:43.000 When all is said and done, what does all of this come to?
00:26:46.000 Well, it comes down to the idea that there may not be an underlying crime here.
00:26:50.000 There may be ancillary related crimes, meaning that Michael Cohen may have lied about stuff to the FBI while the FBI was investigating 2016, meaning that Manafort may have lied to the FBI about ancillary matters unrelated to the 2016 election, meaning Michael Flynn may have lied about stuff that had nothing to do with the 2016 election, which appears to have been the case.
00:27:08.000 But that doesn't go to an underlying conspiracy to affect the 2016 election by coordinating with the Russian government, which, again, for the one millionth time was the original allegation against President Trump and his team.
00:27:21.000 Now, that means that President Trump should shut up, really, for his own sake.
00:27:25.000 His lawyers need to tell him to stop tweeting, to stop saying things, because all he could possibly do is get himself in further legal trouble by creating ancillary legal problems for himself.
00:27:35.000 It's one thing to protest your innocence.
00:27:37.000 It's another thing to do it so vociferously that you verge on violating other federal laws.
00:27:41.000 So yesterday, President Trump As we talked about, issued a series of tweets in which he said that Michael Cohen should be punished.
00:27:48.000 He said he lied and should, in my opinion, serve a full and complete sentence.
00:27:52.000 And then he immediately followed that up by saying that Roger Stone is a good guy for not testifying against President Trump, which sounds like maybe he is offering a pardon to Roger Stone if Roger Stone were to be prosecuted and keeps his mouth shut.
00:28:03.000 But he thinks that Cohen should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
00:28:07.000 Trump appears to be suggesting that Mueller and his angry Democrats were seeking to suborn perjury to push Cohen and others from Trump's orbit into lying about Trump-Russia collusion.
00:28:15.000 There's no actual evidence of that.
00:28:18.000 Trump also seems to be trying to affect witness testimony, or maybe he could be.
00:28:23.000 So George Conway, who's the husband of Kellyanne Conway, he tweeted out, file under 18 U.S.C.
00:28:27.000 section 1503 and 1512.
00:28:29.000 Those would be the provisions of federal law with regard to witness tampering.
00:28:33.000 Alipundit has a long article over at Hot Air looking at the applicable law in this case, and this has become a meme on the left over the last 24 hours, is that President Trump violated the witness tampering statutes.
00:28:45.000 Section 1503, which is what Conway is referring to, says whoever corruptly or by threats or force or by any threatening letter or communication endeavors to influence, or impede any grand or petite juror or officer in or of any court of the United States or officer who may be serving at any examination, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, or corruptly or by threat or force or by any threatening letter or communication influences, obstructs or impedes or endeavors to influence, obstructs or impede the due administration of justice shall obstructs or impedes or endeavors to influence, obstructs or impede the due administration of justice
00:29:14.000 That's a catch all for corrupt behavior.
00:29:17.000 And then 1512, which is the other federal section that is talked about by George Conway, is about tampering with a witness, victim, or informant.
00:29:24.000 It says, whoever knowingly uses intimidation, threatens, or corruptly persuades another person, or attempts to do so, or engages in misleading conduct toward another person with intent to influence, delay, or prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding, or cause or induce any person to withhold testimony, or withhold a record, document, or other object from an official proceeding, Could violate the witness tampering statute.
00:29:44.000 The problem here is that there's no actual indictment out against Roger Stone at this point, so he's not actively a witness in an actual judicial proceeding.
00:29:52.000 So the definition of judicial proceeding is a little more specific than I think folks are making out here.
00:29:57.000 Beyond that, is a prosecutor really going to Going to be prosecuting on this basis.
00:30:03.000 I think that is highly unlikely that President Trump is going to end up in the dock for witness tampering, for tweeting out publicly that he likes a witness who is not testifying against him.
00:30:12.000 I mean, he said this sort of stuff publicly.
00:30:14.000 If he has not, if there's no evidence that he actually offered a pardon, if the best that they can do is the suggestion that maybe he's covertly offering a pardon by saying that some people have guts and I'm glad he's not talking to Mueller.
00:30:27.000 I don't think that that counts as witness tampering under any interpretation of law.
00:30:30.000 But again, the most grave danger that President Trump has here is with regard to suborning perjury or witness tampering or some ancillary crime.
00:30:38.000 And those things are a real problem.
00:30:39.000 They're a real problem for presidents under investigation.
00:30:42.000 I'll explain more about that in just one second.
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00:32:03.000 Now, as I say, President Trump could put himself in jeopardy due to ancillary crimes.
00:32:08.000 I'm going to get to all that in a second.
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00:33:50.000 So as I say, the left is trying to proclaim that all of the smoke from Mueller means there's fire.
00:34:01.000 But it seems to me that Mueller's solidest ground, the most solid ground upon which Mueller stands, is the idea that there are ancillary crimes here.
00:34:08.000 Why do I say that?
00:34:09.000 Because every single person who has pled guilty to a crime has pled guilty not to anything having to do with Russian-Trump collusion, which was the original cause of the investigation.
00:34:17.000 George Papadopoulos spent 14 days in jail after a huge investigation because he pled guilty to lying to the FBI.
00:34:23.000 There is no evidence of underlying crimes with regard to collusion.
00:34:26.000 Paul Manafort pled guilty to counts related to work for Ukrainian politicians years ago as well as tax issues no relation to the Trump-Russia campaign.
00:34:33.000 Rick Gates pled guilty to false statements charges and to conspiracy related to work with Ukrainian politicians.
00:34:38.000 Alex Van Der Zwaan pled guilty to making false statements to the FBI about contacts with Rick Gates.
00:34:43.000 Michael Cohen pled guilty to tax and bank charges as well as campaign finance violations as well as lying to Congress about Trump's business in Russia.
00:34:50.000 None of it had to do with the Trump-Russia connection with regard to 2016.
00:34:55.000 And as Andrew McCarthy wrote a couple of days ago, Mueller knows the legitimacy of his investigation is under attack, allegedly driven by politics rather than evidence of crime.
00:35:03.000 But the convictions he has amassed, even if they are only for false statements or otherwise unrelated to the Trump-Russia rationale for the investigation, prove that many people Trump brought into his campaign were corruptible and of low character.
00:35:13.000 This means the most severe damage for Trump lies in his own statements to the FBI, to the American public, and his behavior with regard to other witnesses, which is why the president needs to stop tweeting forthwith.
00:35:25.000 The president needs to stop making public statements about this, forthwith.
00:35:28.000 He is putting himself in a worse legal position by talking about this than if he would just be quiet.
00:35:33.000 This is the first rule of a defense lawyer.
00:35:35.000 If anybody were to come to me and say, the police are investigating me, what should I tell them?
00:35:40.000 My answer would be, shut your face.
00:35:42.000 Really?
00:35:42.000 Like if you were a subject of an investigation, the answer is shut your face, just from a defense perspective.
00:35:47.000 Put aside guilt or innocence.
00:35:49.000 The last thing you want is a talkative client.
00:35:51.000 Every lawyer knows this.
00:35:53.000 And the fact that President Trump keeps providing problems for his own folks because he won't stop the jabbering is a serious, serious issue for him.
00:36:01.000 But it does underscore the fact that Mueller still has not presented evidence of the central contention in 2016.
00:36:06.000 Yes, there are people who are talking with the Russians.
00:36:09.000 Yes, there was a Trump Tower meeting.
00:36:10.000 It still seems to me the most important single piece of information for the Mueller case is that Trump Tower meeting between Donald Trump Jr.
00:36:17.000 and members of the campaign and this Russian lawyer when they were supposedly offering help from the Russian government with regard to intelligence about Hillary Clinton.
00:36:26.000 But as Eugene Volokh has written over at the Washington Post, that is not only not clearly criminal, it doesn't even amount to criminal conspiracy.
00:36:32.000 And there may not be an underlying crime, considering nothing actually happened from it.
00:36:35.000 It can all be dirty.
00:36:36.000 It can all be scuzzy.
00:36:37.000 It can all be a problem.
00:36:39.000 It is not, in fact, criminal.
00:36:40.000 And lots of dirty and scuzzy and terrible things happen in presidential politics, as we all know.
00:36:46.000 So if I had to try and forecast this, I would say that the best Democrats are going to be able to do is try and accuse Trump of ancillary crimes, which is why that's exactly what they're doing.
00:36:54.000 Ted Lieu Looks to me in this case that Donald Trump is attempting to persuade Roger Stone to keep him from testifying.
00:37:00.000 in witness tampering.
00:37:01.000 Notice again how the accusations against Trump have changed.
00:37:04.000 Originally, it was that Trump colluded with Russia to steal the election from Hillary Clinton.
00:37:07.000 Now it's that Trump is tampering with witnesses via public statements on Twitter. - Looks to me in this case that Donald Trump is attempting to persuade Roger Stone to keep him from testifying.
00:37:17.000 If I were special counsel Mueller, I'd have a whole series of exhibits that simply have Donald Trump's tweets pasted on the page. - And we've put that, as you put it, broad statement on the screen.
00:37:27.000 You think this does induce false testimony?
00:37:31.000 I think it's an attempt to persuade Roger Stone to not testify.
00:37:35.000 That by itself would violate the witness tampering statute.
00:37:39.000 Okay, but, you know, inducement actually requires a quid pro quo.
00:37:43.000 So the question is, what exactly is the quid pro quo?
00:37:45.000 Bottom line is, again, Trump said stuff he shouldn't have said stuff, and now he's got trouble because he said stuff This has been the running theme.
00:37:53.000 Can you imagine how good this president would be if Trump had not created all these problems for himself by just saying things?
00:37:58.000 Really, it demonstrates that a little bit of discipline in politics goes a very long way.
00:38:03.000 Now, again, that is not to underestimate the amount of media hatred for him.
00:38:06.000 It's not to underestimate the fact that the media have royally botched their coverage of the Trump-Russia investigation.
00:38:12.000 How many false, outright false stories have been printed by the mainstream media that they have then had to retract about President Trump and his supposed coordination with the Russian government?
00:38:21.000 And there was one just last week that NPR reported and then had to retract about supposed coordination between Trump and Russia and WikiLeaks.
00:38:28.000 There was one last year in which CNN tried to report that Donald Trump Jr.
00:38:31.000 had known in advance about WikiLeaks emails, even though the WikiLeaks emails had actually come out before Trump Jr.' 's coordination with anybody.
00:38:39.000 They've screwed this story up.
00:38:40.000 And it's so funny.
00:38:41.000 You see people in the media say, well, yeah, but we corrected it because we're good at this.
00:38:44.000 That's not the point.
00:38:45.000 The point is not that you corrected it.
00:38:46.000 The point is whenever the media screw up in their coverage of Trump and Russia, they only screw up in one direction.
00:38:51.000 See, we at The Daily Wire probably screw up in one direction 95% of the time also.
00:38:55.000 You know why?
00:38:56.000 Because we're conservative with an overt ideology.
00:38:59.000 But if CNN's job is to objectively cover the news, and every mistake they make cuts against Republicans and Trump, you have to wonder at a certain point whether they are not just as ideologically driven as The Daily Wire, except we are significantly more honest about our ideologically driven News coverage.
00:39:14.000 Okay.
00:39:15.000 Meanwhile, in other news, if you're worried about media bias, if you're worried about the social media crackdown, Tim Cook, the head of Apple, made some statements that are deeply disturbing and ought to disturb anyone who believes in freedom of opinion and free exchange of ideas.
00:39:31.000 Tim Cook said that it's a sin.
00:39:33.000 He legitimately said this.
00:39:34.000 He said at a conference, it is a sin not to ban people from platforms, to de-platform people for hateful speech.
00:39:40.000 He set no limits on what exactly hateful speech constitutes.
00:39:42.000 We only have one message for those who seek to push hate, division, and violence.
00:39:52.000 You have no place on our platforms.
00:39:56.000 applause Thank you.
00:39:59.000 People who push hate, division, and violence?
00:40:02.000 If you want to say people who push violence, agree.
00:40:04.000 You want to say hate and division?
00:40:06.000 That's how Democrats characterize every statement Donald Trump has ever made.
00:40:10.000 As well as a majority of statements I've ever made.
00:40:13.000 As well as a majority of statements people like Charles Krauthammer ever made.
00:40:15.000 Everyone on the right is suspect to people on the left.
00:40:18.000 So when you hear people like Tim Hunt say that sort of stuff, Or, sorry, Tim Cook say that sort of stuff?
00:40:23.000 You have to wonder, are we about to experience a digital shutdown of everybody on the right?
00:40:27.000 Which is why it is so vital that we have independent platforms like my radio show and podcast, why we have an independent platform over at Daily Wire, why you should be engaging directly with those platforms, because there will come a day, and that day is not far off, it's like two years away, I think, at most, when Democrats are in control of a majority of the branches of government, maybe it's six years from now, Maybe President Trump wins re-election.
00:40:49.000 Whatever it is, there will come a day when there is a Democratic President and a Democratic Congress and they're coordinating with Democrats in the social media in an attempt to shut down other points of view under the name of preventing hate.
00:41:00.000 And when that happens, your sources of information will be radically, radically reduced.
00:41:05.000 They'll be reduced within the ambit that the left-wing finds palatable, and that ambit is really ugly.
00:41:11.000 Now, will they take a financial hit for all of this?
00:41:14.000 Yeah, they will take a financial hit for all of this, because it turns out that when digital media shuts down half the audience, the audience simply goes elsewhere.
00:41:23.000 But that doesn't mean that it can't completely skew the nature of politics in the country.
00:41:28.000 And unfortunately, Democrats, once they get control of the levers of government, they can create incentives strong enough to force these social media programs to basically commit seppuku and open their insides out and destroy themselves.
00:41:41.000 Because if they don't, then they'll be regulated into oblivion.
00:41:43.000 That's what Senator Dianne Feinstein of California actually said to the heads of Facebook.
00:41:47.000 If you don't regulate the news, we're gonna regulate the news.
00:41:49.000 And it's like, oh my goodness.
00:41:51.000 That is the actual thought tyranny in the offing, so prepare for it because it is coming sooner rather than later.
00:41:56.000 Okay, final note today before we get to some things I like and things I hate.
00:42:01.000 This is an article from Jennifer Finney Boylan, a contributing opinion writer over at the New York Times, demonstrating the radicalism of the left and prepare for things to be shut down, things that are normal conversation be shut down as hateful and terrible.
00:42:14.000 What is the latest example of this?
00:42:16.000 Well, Jennifer Finney Boylan, who is a transgender woman, meaning a biological man, says, why are gender reveal parties a thing?
00:42:22.000 They say a lot more about our culture than they do about the sex of our soon to be children.
00:42:27.000 Jennifer Boylan writes, I remember when the obstetrician revealed the genders of our own children back in the day.
00:42:32.000 I recall well the sense of wonder the news brought us, knowing the sex of our child felt as if we had cut in half the number of possible futures our family might find itself in.
00:42:39.000 There's a way in which, in the heart of pregnancy, that was very comforting.
00:42:41.000 But celebrating a child's gender before it's born is a tricky business.
00:42:46.000 It sets expectations for who that child will be.
00:42:49.000 It also leaves the unfortunate impression that gender is the most important thing to celebrate about that child.
00:42:54.000 Well, first of all, it is a very important thing to celebrate about a child.
00:42:57.000 And gender differences, meaning sex differences, are deeply, deeply important to life, and anyone who believes otherwise is a fool.
00:43:03.000 If you don't think there's a difference between men and women, you are a fool.
00:43:06.000 I don't just mean in genitals.
00:43:08.000 I mean in terms of how men and women think and act.
00:43:10.000 Obviously, there is a difference.
00:43:12.000 But according to Jennifer Boylan, this is unacceptable because we can't, if you find out that you have a boy in the womb, you can't just assume that that boy is going to be a boy.
00:43:21.000 Maybe the boy is going to be a girl.
00:43:22.000 Why?
00:43:23.000 Quote, as a late transitioning transgender person, I've experienced both sides of a lot of this world.
00:43:27.000 I have been both a best man and a matron of honor.
00:43:29.000 And I can tell you that being a matron of honor is a lot more fun.
00:43:32.000 Being best man felt a little bit like being a security guard at a very sketchy nightclub.
00:43:35.000 I've attended bachelor parties as well as bridal showers.
00:43:37.000 At the bridal shower, my girlfriends and I mostly said ooh and ah as we opened up boxes of high-end lingerie.
00:43:42.000 Which was fun, but let's be honest, Victoria's Secret is no match for an amazing Larry.
00:43:46.000 As a transgender person, I thought my eyes were pretty wide open when it came to gender issues.
00:43:50.000 I tried to avoid defining either of my children based on their sex and encouraged them to find their own path wherever it might lead.
00:43:55.000 Does it ever occur to people that maybe how you act in your life affects how your children act and think about these things?
00:43:59.000 The news stunned me and left me for a little while unable to speak.
00:44:02.000 Then I put my arms around her just as my own mother had put her arms around me and told her that I loved her just as my own mother had said those words to me.
00:44:08.000 Does it ever occur to people that maybe how you act in your life affects how your children act and think about these things?
00:44:14.000 And that, I mean, the number of hardships a transgender person has to undergo in this life, the mental hardships, the emotional hardships you have to undergo, even if you are actually biologically predisposed toward gender identity disorder, is extraordinary.
00:44:28.000 To suggest that confusing a child for a full generation about sex being completely malleable has no impact on the kids is insane.
00:44:35.000 And not to be able to celebrate all this stuff is pretty...
00:44:38.000 Not to be able to celebrate the sex of your child because you think your child might end up being the opposite sex is pretty upsetting.
00:44:46.000 It's pretty upsetting and pretty ridiculous and pretty cruel to the child.
00:44:48.000 Because it turns out, sex differences are a wonderful, beautiful thing.
00:44:52.000 If you're not reinculcating them in your child, you are making a very large mistake.
00:44:55.000 Okay, time for a thing that I like and then, and I'm not sure I have any things I hate more than that today, so we'll do a thing I like and then maybe a Federalist Paper.
00:45:02.000 So, things I like today is a great book called Why Liberalism Failed Out by Patrick Deneen.
00:45:06.000 There's a great debate that has broken out on the right about the Enlightenment.
00:45:11.000 And I am a pro-Enlightenment guy.
00:45:13.000 I like the Enlightenment.
00:45:15.000 But one of the critiques of the Enlightenment is that the Enlightenment basically valued individual rights at the expense of social fabric.
00:45:20.000 It essentially reduced us all to individual, atomized people who don't have anything in common in terms of culture, in terms of history, in terms of social obligation.
00:45:30.000 And this has led to a radical breakdown in society itself.
00:45:34.000 That's the case Patrick Deneen makes in Why Liberalism Failed.
00:45:37.000 I don't agree with every element of his critique, but I think it's a critique worth taking seriously in a time when suicide is at a record high and when 70,000 people a year in the United States are dying through heroin overdose.
00:45:47.000 We have to wonder whether the atomization that accompanied liberalism in the Enlightenment has had some downsides.
00:45:53.000 And whether you can get the upsides of classical liberalism without the downsides, so long as you abide by a vision of the social fabric that actually matters.
00:46:00.000 The book is well worth reading.
00:46:01.000 It is a sophisticated take on political theory that cuts against the grain of modern politics, which suggests that atomized individualism is the only way that the future will think.
00:46:10.000 I'm not sure that's the case.
00:46:11.000 I think our current political situation is good evidence of the backlash.
00:46:14.000 Check it out, Why Liberalism Failed by Patrick Deneen.
00:46:17.000 Well worth the read.
00:46:18.000 Okay, time for A federalist paper.
00:46:20.000 So every week we do a federalist paper.
00:46:22.000 We are all the way up to Federalist 52.
00:46:24.000 This one's by Alexander Hamilton.
00:46:26.000 This is about why we have elections in the House of Representatives every couple of years.
00:46:29.000 His case is that every two years we have these elections to prevent tyranny.
00:46:33.000 He starts off this federalist paper by talking about the definition of suffrage.
00:46:38.000 In the federal constitution, it basically says that whatever is the state legislature standard for suffrage, meaning voting in the state, that also has to be extended to elections for Congress.
00:46:48.000 What you don't want is the state setting a standard where it says every male of a particular age at the time, because there's only males who were property owners in many of these states, all those males get to vote for the state legislature, but only these seven people get to vote for federal elections.
00:47:01.000 They didn't want the state being able to dictate the House legislative constituency that way.
00:47:07.000 So it says the definition of the right of suffrage is very justly regarded as a fundamental article of Republican government.
00:47:12.000 It was incumbent on the convention, therefore, to define and establish this right in the Constitution.
00:47:16.000 It was done so in Article 1, Section 2, where it says the electors in each state shall have the qualifications requisite for electors in the most numerous branch of the state legislature, meaning that you can't do what I talked about before.
00:47:26.000 Then Hamilton talks about why we should have elections every couple of years.
00:47:29.000 He says, in order to decide on the propriety of this article, two questions must be considered.
00:47:35.000 First, whether biennial elections will in this case be safe.
00:47:39.000 Secondly, whether they be necessary or useful.
00:47:41.000 First, as it is essential to liberty that the government in general should have a common interest with the people, So it is particularly essential that the branch of it, under consideration, should have an immediate dependence on and an intimate sympathy with the people.
00:47:53.000 Frequent elections are unquestionably the only policy by which this dependence and sympathy can be effectually secured.
00:47:58.000 Now one of the reasons this is the case is because travel in 1789 is a lot different than travel now.
00:48:03.000 People have to go back to their constituencies to campaign every couple of years.
00:48:07.000 That's a lot different than now.
00:48:09.000 My feeling is that we should basically disband Washington, D.C.
00:48:11.000 and let people vote remotely from their district.
00:48:13.000 I think it would actually be a lot better for the country if people spent most of their time in their district as opposed to most of their time hanging out with the other muckety-mucks in Washington, D.C.
00:48:21.000 Hamilton says it is a well-received and well-founded maxim that where no other circumstances affect the case, the greater the power is, the shorter ought to be its duration.
00:48:29.000 We want a lot of answerability.
00:48:31.000 We want people being elected every couple of years so that the people can turn over the constituency of the House as often as humanly possible.
00:48:38.000 And that is why we vote every couple of years in the House of Representatives.
00:48:41.000 Okay, well, we'll be back tomorrow with, I'm sure, a lot more to talk about.
00:48:45.000 The Flynn documents are supposed to come down today, so I'm sure we'll be breaking those down and a lot more.
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