The Ben Shapiro Show - June 20, 2019


Open Season On Biden! | Ep. 805


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 1 minute

Words per Minute

204.58316

Word Count

12,558

Sentence Count

884

Misogynist Sentences

11

Hate Speech Sentences

25


Summary

Iranian forces shot down a U.S. surveillance drone over the Strait of Hormuz on Thursday, according to the New York Times. It s just the latest in a growing list of tensions between the United States and Iran that has raised fears of war. But is a shooting war with Iran actually on the horizon? Ben Shapiro explains why it s unlikely, and why we should take Iran's claims about their intentions seriously. Plus, a look at how the White House handled the situation, and what it means for the future of the country s relations with Iran, and whether or not it s time for a full-scale shooting war. Plus, more on Joe Biden and slavery reparations, and Chuck Todd s run-in with the woke schools. Subscribe to Ben Shapiro's new show, The Ben Shapiro Show, wherever you get your shows. Use the promo code "UPLEVEL" to receive 20% off your first month with discount code "WEBINAR" at checkout. Thanks for listening and share the podcast with your fellow podcasting friends! Subscribe, review, and tell a friend about what you think of the show! It helps us spread the word to the world about it! Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! - Ben Shapiro Music: "Good Morning America" by Suneaters, "Goodbye Outer Space" by Fountains of Troy, "Outer Space, Goodbye" by Haley and Co., by Haley & Co., "The Good Morning America by Ferg & Co. "Bye Bye Bye Byebye, Love, Judea & Good Luck, by Mr. Lovell & Good Morning, - by Ms. & Mr. Goodbye, Bye, Lovell and Mr. Badbye, "Auntie" by Mrs. Jacklyn "Thank You, Bye Bye, Bye, Blessings, Jacklyn & Good Night, Bless, Bless You, Bless Blessings -- xOXO, Billie & Joe" by EJ & Ms. -- "Amberly & EYETTERING, - EYEAH? -- Thank You, EYELOTTERY & KELLY AND JUICY & MURCHLEY & JOSEPH & MRS. - PRAISE YOU, EABBYE & JAYE AND GRABBYE


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Democrats pounce on Joe Biden after he talks about working with segregationist senators.
00:00:04.000 Democrats push slavery reparations in the run-up to 2020.
00:00:07.000 And Chuck Todd runs afoul of the woke schools.
00:00:09.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:00:10.000 This is the Ben Shapiro Show.
00:00:11.000 All righty.
00:00:18.000 So we begin today not with segregationist senators or reparations We begin today with the breaking news that Iran yesterday shot down a U.S.
00:00:26.000 drone, according to the New York Times, escalating tensions.
00:00:29.000 Iran shot down a U.S.
00:00:30.000 surveillance drone early on Thursday, according to both nations.
00:00:33.000 The nations differed on the crucial issue of whether the aircraft had violated Iranian airspace in the latest escalation in tensions that have raised fears of war between the two countries.
00:00:42.000 I do love, again, the sort of cycle of violence language that is used by the New York Times.
00:00:46.000 It's just the latest escalation in tensions.
00:00:48.000 Generalized tensions out there in the universe that have raised fear of war.
00:00:52.000 Actually, it's just that Iran keeps bombing things and, like, shooting things down.
00:00:56.000 The United States has taken no aggressive military action against Iran, as in none, going all the way back to the Obama administration, when the Iranians were taking prisoner American soldiers.
00:01:05.000 Iranian officials said that the drone was over Iran.
00:01:07.000 The American military denied that.
00:01:09.000 Each side accused the other of being the aggressor.
00:01:11.000 Obviously, we should take the Iranian contentions with all of the All of the verifiable, I think, truth that they deserve.
00:01:20.000 I think we should absolutely take Iran's contentions seriously, because they never lie about these things, like wanting to develop nuclear weapons, or bombing ships, or anything supporting terrorists.
00:01:31.000 They're perfectly honest.
00:01:32.000 Obviously, we should take the contentions of the American government and the Iranian government with exactly the same amount of seriousness.
00:01:39.000 Both of the countries said the downing occurred at 4.05 Iranian time on Thursday, 7.35pm on Wednesday in Washington.
00:01:45.000 The drone was shot down by an Iranian surface-to-air missile system while operating in international airspace over the Strait of Hormuz, according to U.S.
00:01:53.000 CENTCOM.
00:01:54.000 Again, the Strait of Hormuz is the geographic region that is the source of a lot of this tension right now because the Iranians are effectively seeking to bottleneck all oil traffic through the Strait of Hormuz, which is responsible for an enormous amount of the world's oil market.
00:02:09.000 They're hoping to drive up the price of oil artificially by preventing a solid supply through the Strait of Hormuz.
00:02:17.000 The United States said this was an unprovoked attack on a U.S.
00:02:19.000 surveillance asset in international airspace.
00:02:21.000 An Iranian attack on an American aircraft, even an unmanned drone, adds a potential flashpoint to the growing list of recent clashes.
00:02:28.000 Also, the White House had late night meetings yesterday.
00:02:32.000 Sarah Huckabee Sanders told news outlets that the president had been briefed on the missile attack and that the administration was monitoring the situation.
00:02:39.000 And then President Trump went on Twitter this morning and he tweeted out, Iran made a very big mistake.
00:02:48.000 So if we end up going to war on the basis of a tweet, I'll say it's not ideal.
00:02:53.000 Like we used to have a procedure for this where you went to Congress for permission to go to war and all of this sort of thing.
00:02:58.000 But it is a little funny.
00:03:02.000 Downside, not constitutional.
00:03:04.000 Upside, kind of hilarious.
00:03:06.000 I mean that Quentin Tarantino kind of... This is like old school Clint Eastwood.
00:03:11.000 You can just see Trump growling to himself.
00:03:13.000 Iran made a very big mistake.
00:03:16.000 And then it's just the bombs launch in five minutes.
00:03:19.000 OK, so are we actually going to get into a shooting war with Iran?
00:03:23.000 I think that is very, very unlikely.
00:03:26.000 The fact is that that is the last thing the Iranians want.
00:03:28.000 Forget about what we want.
00:03:29.000 The last thing that the Iranians want is a full scale shooting war with the United States.
00:03:32.000 The fact is we could just sink their military the way that we did the the Iranian military back during Operation Praying Mantis.
00:03:38.000 But Iran's continual escalation of affairs is going to lead at some point to the United States having to take some sort of action here.
00:03:46.000 And it's not going to be economic action.
00:03:47.000 So that's not going to devolve into a full scale shooting war.
00:03:50.000 It's funny because the press seems to think that every time the United States fires a shot, that this ends in World War Two.
00:03:55.000 That is not the case.
00:03:56.000 You know how many times the United States has fired missiles into particular areas?
00:04:00.000 You know, I mean, we did it under Trump to Syria like two years ago.
00:04:05.000 It didn't devolve into a full scale war between Syria and the United States.
00:04:07.000 And we have American troops in Syria right now.
00:04:10.000 So, you know, I'm skeptical of the claim that the Trump administration is ready to send 150,000, 200,000 American troops into the middle of the Middle East.
00:04:20.000 That is just not something that is really on the table.
00:04:24.000 So we'll keep an eye on that, obviously, and we'll keep an eye on President Trump's Twitter feed to determine if he decides to announce any targets via Twitter.
00:04:31.000 I guess that's how we're doing this thing now.
00:04:34.000 We're just going to wait, and he's going to be like, yeah, I tell this beach house, go.
00:04:40.000 We'll find out, man.
00:04:41.000 OK, meanwhile, Joe Biden, they're coming for old Joe.
00:04:44.000 So I've been predicting this since the day that Joe Biden decided that he was going to run for president, is that all the guns would turn on old Joe.
00:04:52.000 And I have to admit, if old Joe had not spent the last few years being Just a terrible politician, then I'd feel a lot more sympathy for him because the attacks on Joe Biden today are extraordinarily unfair.
00:05:05.000 I mean, just in all intellectual honesty, they are really, really unfair attacks on Joe Biden.
00:05:11.000 Now, here's the thing.
00:05:12.000 Joe Biden has expressed sympathy for segregationist senators in the past.
00:05:16.000 Joe Biden has actually said nice things about segregationist senators in the past.
00:05:19.000 Not because they were segregationists, per se, but because he says lots of nice things about lots of senators because he was, wait for it, in the Senate.
00:05:26.000 This is just something that happens in the Senate.
00:05:29.000 There are lots of people in Congress who praise each other on a regular basis.
00:05:33.000 But now, this is just terrible.
00:05:35.000 How dare Joe Biden suggest that he was once civil to people with whom he radically Disagrees.
00:05:42.000 And again, this is, as I say, it's not unusual.
00:05:45.000 Steve Kornacki, who works over at NBC News, national political correspondent, he points out that Ted Kennedy used to talk about his warm collegial relationship with James Eastland, the senator at issue, in Joe Biden's comments.
00:05:57.000 Does that mean that Ted Kennedy was a vicious, brutal racist?
00:06:02.000 Is that what's going on there?
00:06:04.000 I really don't think so.
00:06:05.000 Nonetheless, Joe Biden stepped in it because you're not allowed to acknowledge the humanity of people who you disagree with, even people who you think are truly wrong about everything and hold evil principles.
00:06:16.000 You're not allowed to acknowledge their humanity or acknowledge that if you sit in the Senate with them, that sometimes you have to make deals with them.
00:06:21.000 That's very bad.
00:06:22.000 Not allowed to do that.
00:06:23.000 Instead, you have to virtue signal at every turn.
00:06:26.000 And not get things done in the Senate, I suppose.
00:06:29.000 So here is what happened, to break it down.
00:06:31.000 So Joe Biden was speaking at a fundraiser at the Carlisle Hotel in New York City on Tuesday night.
00:06:35.000 And he stressed the need to be able to reach consensus under our system.
00:06:39.000 And he specifically talked about serving with the late Senators James Eastland of Mississippi and Herman Talmadge of Georgia.
00:06:46.000 Both Democrats were staunch opponents of desegregation.
00:06:49.000 Eastland was the powerful chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee when Biden entered the chamber in 1973.
00:06:54.000 Biden said, I was in a caucus with James O'Eastland.
00:06:57.000 He never called me boy.
00:06:58.000 He always called me son.
00:06:59.000 And he called Talmadge one of the meanest guys I ever knew.
00:07:02.000 You go down the list of all these guys.
00:07:03.000 He said, well, guess what?
00:07:04.000 At least there was some civility.
00:07:06.000 We didn't agree on much of anything.
00:07:06.000 We got things done.
00:07:08.000 We got things done.
00:07:09.000 We got it finished.
00:07:09.000 But today you look at the other side and you're the enemy, not the opposition, the enemy.
00:07:14.000 We don't talk to each other anymore.
00:07:16.000 Oh, so this is enough to ruin Joe Biden.
00:07:19.000 I mean, they are coming for him and they are coming with pitchforks.
00:07:22.000 They're coming with pitchforks.
00:07:23.000 I'll get to exactly the angle of attack in one second.
00:07:26.000 First.
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00:08:40.000 Okay, so Joe Biden had the gall, the temerity, to suggest that if you really disliked somebody, if you held principles different from somebody else, if you didn't agree with somebody, you still had to get things done in the Senate.
00:08:53.000 This is very bad.
00:08:54.000 You're not allowed to say that in the modern Democratic Party.
00:08:57.000 And so it was woke, scold, activate.
00:09:00.000 Now, this is all cynical.
00:09:01.000 We all know how cynical this is.
00:09:03.000 Joe Biden was not saying that the segregationist principles of these senators were good.
00:09:07.000 He was not saying that these were good, wonderful men.
00:09:09.000 There's no evidence that he said that about these guys.
00:09:12.000 Instead, he said that we tried to be civil, and we achieved civility, and we worked together.
00:09:18.000 I thought for a second that that was what politics was all about, actually.
00:09:21.000 But no, it turns out that politics is more about showing that you hate somebody more than the other guy hates that person.
00:09:27.000 So all of the Democrats in the 2020 race jump on Joe Biden.
00:09:31.000 Specifically, this is a rich vein for them because Joe Biden is doing exceedingly well with black voters right now.
00:09:37.000 He's doing great with black voters right now.
00:09:38.000 And so there are a bunch of candidates ranging from Kamala Harris to Cory Booker, specifically Cory Booker, who really needs a lot of black support if he's going to start climbing in the polls.
00:09:46.000 He's got no white support at this point.
00:09:49.000 Elizabeth Warren jumping into the fray as well.
00:09:50.000 Bernie Sanders jumping into the fray.
00:09:52.000 Everybody jumping on Joe Biden with the suggestion that, what, like he's too friendly towards segregation?
00:09:57.000 So a couple of questions on this.
00:09:59.000 One, if Joe Biden was truly friendly towards segregation, why didn't anybody in the media notice this for, you know, the eight years when he was vice president under a black president?
00:10:09.000 Why did nobody notice this?
00:10:10.000 Because it turns out that Joe Biden has bragged before on national television that he comes from a slave state, for example.
00:10:19.000 He did this back in 2007, I believe.
00:10:21.000 Why exactly didn't anybody notice this at the time?
00:10:23.000 Weird.
00:10:24.000 Weird how the media are finally starting to pay attention to Joe Biden's odd musings on race.
00:10:29.000 I mean, this is old stuff, but hadn't heard this surfaced until Democrats decided, hey, wait a second, we have some questions about old Joe.
00:10:35.000 Isn't it odd how we only find out that Beto O'Rourke was part of a hacking group and is also a giant weirdo with no political abilities as soon as he stops running against Ted Cruz?
00:10:44.000 Isn't it weird that we only find out that Joe Biden is apparently a weirdo on race as soon as he starts running against a bunch of Democrats the media like better than Joe Biden?
00:10:53.000 Hmm.
00:10:54.000 It's as though there's an agenda at work.
00:10:56.000 Hmm.
00:10:57.000 Here's Joe Biden flashback.
00:10:59.000 What kind of a chance would a Northeastern liberal like Joe Biden stand in the South if you were running in Democratic primaries against Southerners like Mark Warner and John Edwards?
00:11:10.000 Better than anybody else.
00:11:12.000 And you don't know my state.
00:11:13.000 My state was a slave state.
00:11:14.000 My state is a border state.
00:11:16.000 My state is the eighth largest black population in the country.
00:11:19.000 My state is anything from a northeast liberal state.
00:11:22.000 You probably shouldn't drop at the very beginning that it was a slave state as like a thing that you are bragging about.
00:11:27.000 That's not like a good thing, actually.
00:11:30.000 Obviously, he's not saying that it being a slave state was a good thing.
00:11:33.000 And this is the thing.
00:11:34.000 When Joe Biden was on the good side of the media, everybody sort of took his words for him just being an idiot and him gaffing.
00:11:40.000 And now everybody is taking it as though he is a borderline vicious racist.
00:11:44.000 And then they're using plausible deniability.
00:11:46.000 So this was the strategy of Cory Booker.
00:11:49.000 who came out and effectively suggested that he was a racist and then ran to his crying room and hid as soon as Joe Biden called him on it.
00:11:55.000 So Cory Booker put out a statement about Joe Biden.
00:11:57.000 He said, Vice President Biden's relationships with proud segregationists are not the model for how we make America a safer and more inclusive place for black people and for everyone.
00:12:04.000 perpetuate white supremacy, and strip black Americans of our very humanity.
00:12:09.000 Vice President Biden's relationships with proud segregationists are not the model for how we make America a safer and more inclusive place for black people and for everyone.
00:12:16.000 I have to tell Vice President Biden, as someone I respect, he is wrong for using his relationships with Eastland and Talmadge as examples of how to bring our country together.
00:12:23.000 And frankly, I'm disappointed he hasn't issued an immediate apology for the pain his words are dredging up for many Americans.
00:12:29.000 He should.
00:12:31.000 So Cory Booker goes out and attacks Biden.
00:12:35.000 And he's effectively calling him a racist.
00:12:37.000 I know.
00:12:38.000 Cory Booker then claims, no, no, I wasn't calling him racist.
00:12:40.000 So then what are you complaining about?
00:12:41.000 Like really, what's the complaint?
00:12:43.000 If you're not suggesting that he is a closet segregationist, or has closet segregationist sympathies, or that he's treating segregation and segregationists with too kind a hand, and that that has nothing to do with racism, then what exactly is the complaint?
00:12:54.000 Pretty obvious what the complaint is.
00:12:56.000 It's pretty obvious what Cory Booker is doing here and the rest of the Democratic candidates.
00:13:00.000 It is deeply cynical.
00:13:02.000 It's really, really cynical.
00:13:03.000 We'll get to Joe Biden's response, what the rest of the Democrats had to say about this, what exactly they're trying to do, and why Joe Biden, frankly, is suffering from a bit of schadenfreude.
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00:14:21.000 Okay, so Cory Booker comes after Joe Biden.
00:14:23.000 And it's not just Cory Booker, obviously.
00:14:25.000 It's also Bernie Sanders, who is fading in the polling, desperately trying to grasp with all of his socialist might, all of the might left in the tips of those pudding stained fingers.
00:14:36.000 He's trying to grip onto whatever level of support he still has.
00:14:39.000 So Joe Biden, so Joe Biden attacked by Bernie Sanders, Bernie Sanders with block of wood, Chris Cuomo.
00:14:45.000 Look, we all have to work with people with whom we have very different points of view.
00:14:49.000 I do it every day.
00:14:51.000 But I think to be singing the praises My goodness.
00:14:56.000 Okay, I mean, that is so... I mean, Chris Cuomo actually saying a true thing.
00:15:02.000 Good for Chris Cuomo there, by the way.
00:15:03.000 Like, saying a true thing, every so often it happens.
00:15:06.000 I'm not so sure about that, but that's all. - My goodness.
00:15:09.000 Okay, I mean, that is so, I mean, Chris Cuomo actually saying a true thing.
00:15:12.000 Good for Chris Cuomo there, by the way.
00:15:13.000 Like saying a true thing, every so often it happens.
00:15:15.000 Broken clock is right twice a day.
00:15:18.000 But the fact that Bernie said, well, I don't know, maybe he actually loves segregation secretly.
00:15:23.000 Weird.
00:15:24.000 You weren't saying that like five seconds ago when he was vice president of the United States.
00:15:27.000 Very, very odd to see all these Democrats suddenly realizing that old Joe is a vicious racist.
00:15:34.000 As I say, there's some schadenfreude to this.
00:15:36.000 I mean, it was Joe Biden who was calling Mitt Romney a vicious racist five minutes ago, based on literally nothing, because Joe Biden is just as scuzzy a politician as all the rest of these, as all the rest of these dolts.
00:15:46.000 Here is Joe Biden doing this routine back in 2012.
00:15:49.000 Look at their budget and what they're proposing.
00:15:51.000 Romney wants to let the, he said in the first hundred days, he's going to let the big banks once again, write their own rules.
00:15:58.000 Unchain Wall Street.
00:16:03.000 They're gonna put y'all back in chains.
00:16:05.000 He said that in front of a black audience.
00:16:07.000 Gonna put y'all back in chains.
00:16:09.000 So he deserves everything that he is getting on just a cosmic level.
00:16:12.000 But it is kind of hilarious to watch, and sad in the sense that if you like truth, it's sad, to watch these Democrats pile on Biden for making the fairly innocuous remark that a bunch of people, he was taking an extreme example.
00:16:23.000 The example doesn't work if he says, you know who I agreed with a lot, John McCain, and then we made deals.
00:16:27.000 That doesn't actually work.
00:16:29.000 The entire example that he was using is predicated on the fact that he disagreed with someone and thought that they were bad people.
00:16:34.000 That's the whole example.
00:16:37.000 The left has gone so far that I'm now defending Joe Biden.
00:16:40.000 What have you people done to me?
00:16:42.000 How am I the Joe Biden defender today?
00:16:45.000 Because I still care a little bit about honesty, and Democratic candidates don't, apparently.
00:16:48.000 So Senator Kamala Harris, who is also black and also running for president and also cynical, said, if those men had their way, I wouldn't be in the United States Senate and on this elevator right now.
00:16:57.000 She's talking about Senators Eastland and Talmadge.
00:17:00.000 Right?
00:17:02.000 So what does that have to do with what Joe Biden said?
00:17:04.000 And then you have Bill de Blasio, who strangled a groundhog and then went on Twitter and wrote, it's 2019.
00:17:11.000 And Joe Biden is longing for the good old days of civility, typified by James Eastland.
00:17:15.000 It's past time for apologies or evolution from Joe Biden.
00:17:18.000 He repeatedly demonstrates he's out of step with the values of the modern Democratic Party.
00:17:21.000 And then in the most cynical fashion, de Blasio tweets out a picture of himself with his wife, who happens to be black.
00:17:27.000 The idea being, I suppose, that Joe Biden would have opposed that or is OK with people who oppose that or something.
00:17:32.000 Pretty amazing, amazing stuff.
00:17:35.000 Now, Joe, and by the way, the most extreme folks, of course, are the woke scolds on the left who come for Joe Biden.
00:17:42.000 Dan Savage, who is just a disgusting human being.
00:17:45.000 I mean, Dan Savage is the worst in a variety of ways.
00:17:48.000 A man so gross that he once volunteered for the Gary Bauer campaign in 2000.
00:17:52.000 And because he hated Gary Bauer, when he obtained the flu, Dan Savage, he decided to go around licking the doorknobs in the office so as to give all of the other staffers the flu.
00:18:01.000 So Dan Savage, who is now the voice of tolerance, Apparently.
00:18:06.000 He runs one of these anti-bullying groups, even though he is one of the bigger bullies in modern media.
00:18:11.000 He tweeted out, What a kind, anti-bullying guy Dan Savage is.
00:18:13.000 had a racist bone in your body when you were just sucking a dead segregationist bleep.
00:18:16.000 What a kind anti-bullying guy Dan Savage is.
00:18:20.000 Really, really nice guy, Dan Savage.
00:18:22.000 My favorite part of this is when there was an MSNBC anchor yesterday talking about all of this, and the MSNBC anchor called all of the segregationist senators Republicans.
00:18:31.000 And MSNBC has issued no apology or correction, by the way.
00:18:35.000 These were all Democrats.
00:18:36.000 Still to come, Joe Biden references his relationships with two former Republican colleagues at an event in New York City.
00:18:43.000 The only problem?
00:18:44.000 They were both segregationists.
00:18:47.000 Well, there was another problem, which is that they were both Democrats.
00:18:49.000 But, you know, I guess MSNBC doesn't care about that sort of stuff.
00:18:52.000 OK, so Cory Booker says what he says, and he is leading the charge here because Cory Booker is desperately trying to wrest away control of some segment of the black vote, particularly in southern primaries like South Carolina, away from Joe Biden.
00:19:05.000 And Joe Biden responds exactly how Joe Biden should respond, frankly.
00:19:08.000 I mean, Joe Biden should say he should have responded this way on the Hyde Amendment.
00:19:11.000 Joe Biden's entire appeal right now is with the moderate and conservative segments of the Democratic Party, which, yes, does still exist.
00:19:17.000 If you look at the polls right now, he is extraordinarily narrowly leading the rest of the field among liberals.
00:19:23.000 It's like 25 to 24 over people like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren.
00:19:27.000 OK, but when it comes to when it comes to moderate voters in the Democratic Party, conservative voters, he's up on the rest of the field by a margin of 30 points.
00:19:36.000 If he starts to fade because he starts to kowtow on things like the Hyde Amendment, if he kowtows here, then he's admitting guilt and he can't do that and he shouldn't do that.
00:19:44.000 So Joe Biden responds, in my opinion, particularly appropriately here.
00:19:48.000 He slaps at Cory Booker.
00:19:49.000 You're not allowed to do this, by the way, according to the media.
00:19:51.000 If you slap at Cory Booker so that they have this catch 22, Cory Booker effectively implies that you are secretly a racist or two kinds of racists.
00:19:58.000 And then you respond the way Biden does.
00:20:00.000 And then they call you a racist for responding to Cory Booker.
00:20:02.000 Here is Joe Biden trying to respond.
00:20:04.000 How does it feel that your Democratic rivals are implicitly saying that you have issues talking about race?
00:20:11.000 They know better.
00:20:12.000 Are you going to apologize like Cory Booker has called for?
00:20:16.000 Cory Booker has called for it.
00:20:17.000 He's asking you to apologize.
00:20:19.000 He knows better.
00:20:20.000 I'm not a racist bone in my body.
00:20:23.000 I've been involved in civil rights my whole career.
00:20:26.000 Period.
00:20:29.000 Okay, he is right.
00:20:30.000 And Cory Booker does know better.
00:20:32.000 Cory Booker is a cynical player.
00:20:33.000 A very cynical player.
00:20:35.000 There are people who know him going back to his days in Newark, where he was pretending to cultivate bipartisan relationships, which he abandoned as soon as he became a senator from New Jersey.
00:20:43.000 He has shifted his positions on a wide variety of issues.
00:20:45.000 He knows better than this.
00:20:47.000 He routinely castigates people he pretends to be friends with, Cory Booker.
00:20:50.000 Joe Biden is 100% right about this.
00:20:52.000 We'll get to Cory Booker's response.
00:20:54.000 So Cory Booker then goes on CNN last night and plays the victim.
00:20:57.000 Now Cory Booker, who attacked Biden over something Biden said that actually should not be all that controversial.
00:21:04.000 Again, I hate segregationists.
00:21:06.000 Segregationists are wrong.
00:21:07.000 Their perspective is evil.
00:21:09.000 They were also sitting in the United States Senate and you had to work with them to get things done sometimes.
00:21:14.000 If this is the new Democratic Party, then, you know, count anyone of reasonable dint out.
00:21:20.000 Here's Cory Booker being interviewed on CNN by, who is this, Don Lemon interviewing him?
00:21:24.000 Yeah, Don Lemon on CNN and Cory Booker attacking Joe Biden anew.
00:21:29.000 Are you going to apologize?
00:21:33.000 Uh, you know, the vice president said I should know better, and this is what I know.
00:21:36.000 As a black man in America, I know the deeply harmful and hurtful usage of the word boy and how it was used to dehumanize and degrade.
00:21:45.000 This is deeply disappointing.
00:21:46.000 We waited for him to apologize.
00:21:48.000 He didn't, until the next day.
00:21:50.000 And whether I'm running for president or not, as many people today have been, on Juneteenth no less, calling out for the vice president to acknowledge that his words were harmful and hurtful.
00:22:00.000 On Juneteenth no less?
00:22:01.000 Yeah, you're right.
00:22:02.000 Probably Joe Biden, you know, opposed the Emancipation Proclamation, which is what is what Juneteenth is celebrating.
00:22:07.000 He's so cynical, Cory Booker.
00:22:09.000 He is.
00:22:09.000 My goodness.
00:22:10.000 He is a he is a rehearsed, mechanical, cynical guy.
00:22:14.000 I mean, that is a cynical dude right there.
00:22:16.000 And Joe Biden has every right to fire back on Cory Booker.
00:22:19.000 And he shouldn't stop firing back on Cory Booker because what Booker is doing there is really, really ugly.
00:22:24.000 Really ugly.
00:22:25.000 Biden's spokesperson came out yesterday and talked about this as well, pointed that there's a need to done Biden campaign surrogate and former Obama staffer very early on in his in his campaign in 2008.
00:22:35.000 And she points out that both Booker and Elizabeth Warren, who also attacked Biden over this, have touted their work with GOP senators in the past, which is all that Biden was doing here.
00:22:43.000 But again, this is a cynical ploy to separate Biden from a black base of support.
00:22:47.000 That's all this is.
00:22:49.000 I work all the time with members of the other party whose positions are repugnant to all of us as Democrats.
00:22:58.000 You know, Cory Booker, who has worked with Jeff Sessions on many things.
00:23:02.000 Elizabeth Warren talks about how she's worked with Chuck Grassley, who led the fight for Brett Kavanaugh, and who wouldn't even meet with Merrick Garland.
00:23:10.000 And Elizabeth Warren tells the story about how she has worked with Chuck Grassley for over-the-counter hearing aids to save money for people.
00:23:17.000 The reality is that at some point— But none of these people are currently espousing segregationist views.
00:23:22.000 OK, so Anita Dunn getting just raked over the coals for all of this, and the media going out and really digging up as much material as they possibly can on Joe Biden now.
00:23:32.000 So it's open season on Joe Biden.
00:23:35.000 And again, this is all really cynical.
00:23:36.000 All this stuff has been out there for a very long time.
00:23:38.000 Joe Biden did not say anything here that is particularly new or groundbreaking.
00:23:44.000 The new implication that Joe Biden is secretly a racist or the times have passed him by, it's a cynical invention.
00:23:49.000 Again, I don't like Joe Biden.
00:23:52.000 I think Joe Biden is just as cynical as many of the politicians attacking him today.
00:23:55.000 What I do hate is people who are lying.
00:23:57.000 And what we are watching right now are a bunch of people who are telling deliberate lies about Joe Biden, specifically because they are looking to open a racial gap.
00:24:04.000 Reopening racial gaps in the country to suggest that America is rife with racism to get ahead politically is one of the ugliest aspects of our politics right now.
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00:25:25.000 Okay, so speaking of reopening racial wounds deliberately in order to make political hay, the entire Democratic Party is now engaged in this process.
00:25:34.000 They're reopening racial wounds by talking about slavery reparations.
00:25:38.000 Now, I think we can all acknowledge and in fact fought a giant war to acknowledge that slavery was a grave evil.
00:25:44.000 I think that everyone acknowledges at this point in American life, 50 years after the Civil Rights Act, I think everyone acknowledges that Jim Crow Was deeply evil.
00:25:52.000 Was a deeply evil thing.
00:25:54.000 I don't think you can find an American in public life who will argue that Jim Crow was not a deeply evil thing.
00:25:59.000 I don't think you can find many Americans at all.
00:26:02.000 As in, like, you might be able to count them on one hand and they all hang out with Richard Spencer.
00:26:06.000 I think that there are very few Americans who are walking around going, you know what would be great?
00:26:09.000 A systemized way of keeping the black person down.
00:26:13.000 I'm like that that is not a thing in modern America.
00:26:16.000 I know that this is anathema to the left.
00:26:18.000 Many folks on the left want to suggest that racism is inherent in American life.
00:26:22.000 It's the it's the stain in our DNA that will never go away.
00:26:25.000 Barack Obama used to make claims like this when he was president.
00:26:27.000 I thought it was ugly then.
00:26:28.000 I think it's ugly now.
00:26:29.000 Talking about slavery reparations, which is inherently unworkable.
00:26:33.000 This is the thing about slavery reparations.
00:26:35.000 Not a single proponent of slavery reparations has ever put forth a proposal that makes any sort of logical, reasonable, legal sense.
00:26:42.000 None.
00:26:43.000 The only reason to discuss this is to imply that people who oppose slavery reparations don't do so on the basis of impracticality or the immorality of slavery reparations.
00:26:52.000 They do so on the basis of pure, unadulterated racism because they don't take the legacy of racism and slavery seriously enough.
00:26:59.000 That's the implication Democrats are trying to draw here, which is why I think that they were having congressional hearings on an issue that is never going anywhere.
00:27:07.000 That's why they did this because they had congressional hearings yesterday.
00:27:09.000 Now, let me just point out that among the brutal, vicious racists who once opposed slavery reparations is Barack Obama.
00:27:16.000 Here's Barack Obama circa 2008 being asked about slavery reparations.
00:27:19.000 Every single Democratic candidate Opposed slavery reparations in 2008, except for Dennis Kucinich, who is considered a nutjob because he is a nutjob.
00:27:28.000 Here's Barack Obama answering the question.
00:27:30.000 Senator Obama, your position on reparations?
00:27:33.000 I think the reparations we need right here in South Carolina is investment, for example, in our schools.
00:27:39.000 I did a town hall meeting in Florence, South Carolina, in an area called the Corridor of Shame.
00:27:46.000 They've got buildings that students are trying to learn in that were built right after the Civil War.
00:27:51.000 And we've got teachers who are not trained to teach the subjects they're teaching in, high dropout rates.
00:27:59.000 We've got to understand that there are corridors of shame all across the country.
00:28:03.000 And if we make the investments and understand that those are our children, that's the kind of reparations that are really going to make a difference.
00:28:10.000 Okay, so it used to be okay to say this sort of stuff.
00:28:14.000 It used to be fine to say this sort of thing.
00:28:17.000 No longer, apparently.
00:28:18.000 Apparently, you're no longer allowed to say anything remotely approaching this.
00:28:22.000 If you do, this means you're a racist.
00:28:24.000 I guess Barack Obama back in 2008 was a racist because he refused to take into account the legacy of slavery.
00:28:28.000 That apparently is according to Senator Cory Booker.
00:28:31.000 So Booker, who again is trying to make his bones by bringing race to the center of the national conversation once again.
00:28:37.000 He was called to testify in front of the House Democrats as part of his 2020 campaign.
00:28:41.000 That is the only reason he's there.
00:28:42.000 There's nothing that makes Cory Booker an expert on reparations.
00:28:45.000 There's nothing that makes Cory Booker an expert on slavery.
00:28:47.000 There's nothing that makes Cory Booker an expert on the wealth gap.
00:28:50.000 There's nothing that makes Cory Booker an expert on any of these topics.
00:28:52.000 And yet he ends up in front of the House committee where he basically gets to do a presidential stump speech about how America is inherently and brutally racist.
00:29:00.000 I wonder about having the last word.
00:29:02.000 What happens when the last word is no words?
00:29:04.000 When it gets silence?
00:29:06.000 And I feel a sense of anger where we are in the United States of America, where we have not had direct conversations about a lot of the root causes of the inequities and the pain and the hurt manifested in economic disparities, manifested in health disparities, manifested in a criminal justice system that is indeed a form of new Jim Crow.
00:29:28.000 And so we as a nation have not yet truly acknowledged and grappled with racism and white supremacy that has tainted this country's founding and continues to persist in those deep racial disparities and inequalities today.
00:29:41.000 Okay, we can stop him there.
00:29:42.000 This is such absolute unmitigated nonsense.
00:29:45.000 The idea that we have not had these conversations and are not having these conversations, there's a reason Ta-Nehisi Coates is famous.
00:29:51.000 It's not because he's a wonderful writer.
00:29:53.000 He's famous.
00:29:54.000 James Baldwin is famous.
00:29:55.000 There are lots of famous black authors who have written on these topics for decades.
00:30:00.000 We've not been having a racial conversation in this country for years?
00:30:03.000 Truly?
00:30:04.000 That's the line that Cory Booker is going with?
00:30:06.000 We'll get to Ta-Nehisi Coates, who was also called to testify because he wrote a very purple essay for The Atlantic a few years back about slavery reparations.
00:30:13.000 The entire essay was basically him describing how evil slavery was.
00:30:16.000 Agree.
00:30:17.000 Truly evil.
00:30:18.000 Maybe we should have fought a war that killed 600,000 Americans to end it.
00:30:21.000 Oh wait, we did.
00:30:22.000 Maybe then we should have spent a century in the North trying to overturn the legacy of Jim Crow.
00:30:27.000 Maybe we should have passed a Civil Rights Act, a very far-ranging Civil Rights Act in the 1960s.
00:30:32.000 Maybe we should have spent decades since then trying to construct government policy to stop state-sponsored racism.
00:30:38.000 Maybe we should have done all...
00:30:40.000 We've been having these conversations.
00:30:41.000 I'm bewildered by folks who say we have not been having these conversations.
00:30:45.000 Of course we've been having the conversations.
00:30:47.000 Just because people disagree with you on policy doesn't mean the conversation hasn't taken place.
00:30:52.000 We'll get to more of this in just a second.
00:30:53.000 We'll get to Ta-Nehisi Coates' commentary, which is very much like Cory Booker's commentary, the idea being that slavery is responsible and Jim Crow is responsible for all disparity between black and white income and wealth in America and therefore reparations are necessary.
00:31:07.000 We'll get to why this is not actually factually true.
00:31:10.000 We'll get to that in just a second.
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00:32:12.000 Okay, we're gonna get to the wealth gap, how much of it is due to historic discrimination.
00:32:17.000 The answer, some, but not nearly all.
00:32:19.000 We're gonna talk about whether it is the same thing to deserve a reparation as it is to actually suggest that a reparation would be helpful, which is kind of a separate question.
00:32:29.000 We'll get to all of that in just a second.
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00:34:51.000 All righty, so Ta-Nehisi Coates also stops by again, famous because he's written a bunch of very purple books that are basically bad James Baldwin knockoffs.
00:35:09.000 Like, the thing about James Baldwin is dude was actually a really talented writer.
00:35:12.000 Ta-Nehisi Coates, I think, is one of the more overrated writers and muddy thinkers in America right now.
00:35:17.000 I just think that his thinking is messy and muddy and chaotic.
00:35:21.000 There are a lot of thinkers like that at the New York Times, and Ta-Nehisi Coates, not at the New York Times, also a muddy thinker.
00:35:26.000 In any case, Ta-Nehisi Coates steps up in front of the committee, and you'll see him basically wrap everything into a ball.
00:35:32.000 So it's like, slavery is bad.
00:35:33.000 Agree.
00:35:34.000 Agree.
00:35:34.000 Jim Crow, bad.
00:35:35.000 Also, all discrimination, all disparity is discrimination.
00:35:39.000 Don't agree.
00:35:40.000 Also, some people have been victimized.
00:35:41.000 Maybe they deserve some form of recompense.
00:35:44.000 Maybe agree.
00:35:45.000 Also, the only way to heal our national wound is to do this.
00:35:48.000 He just wraps all of this up in a ball, and then throws it out there as though this is self-justifying, incorrect.
00:35:48.000 Disagree.
00:35:54.000 Okay, here's Ta-Nehisi Coates.
00:35:57.000 It was 150 years ago, and it was right now.
00:36:01.000 The typical black family in this country has one-tenth the wealth of the typical white family.
00:36:05.000 Black women die in childbirth at four times the rate of white women.
00:36:09.000 And there is, of course, the shame of this land of the free, boasting the largest prison population on the planet, of which the descendants of the enslaved make up the largest share.
00:36:20.000 The matter of reparations is one of making amends and direct redress.
00:36:26.000 But it is also a question of citizenship.
00:36:29.000 In HR 40, this body has a chance to both make good on its 2009 apology for enslavement and reject fair weather patriotism.
00:36:38.000 Okay, so him wrapping up all of these statistics here, you know, trying to suggest that the difference between black women dying in childbirth and white women dying in childbirth, that that is a reflection of slavery or Jim Crow.
00:36:49.000 They didn't have slavery or Jim Crow for a long time over in Europe.
00:36:55.000 And in Europe, the black and white birth rates, death during birth rates are very similar to the United States.
00:37:01.000 So there's just not a lot of evidence to support all that.
00:37:04.000 So basically the argument for reparations is threefold.
00:37:07.000 It's threefold.
00:37:08.000 And there's some, and we'll talk about sort of the merits and demerits of each of these arguments, because I think that it is worthy of examination since we are talking about it.
00:37:14.000 So, number one, there is this idea that there are folks who are living today who deserve recompense for things that are done 150 years ago.
00:37:24.000 Typically, the answer to that is no.
00:37:26.000 If somebody hasn't done anything to you in your lifetime, you do not deserve recompense for that.
00:37:30.000 If somebody has done something to you now, you deserve recompense to that.
00:37:32.000 So, I have a lot of sympathy for the idea that if you are a person who lived during the Jim Crow South, and you were deprived of the ability to buy a house, then at least there's a feeling that you deserve some sort of recompense from the people who are trying to harm you.
00:37:44.000 But you have to have been specifically harmed.
00:37:46.000 In other words, I'm a Jew.
00:37:47.000 I didn't get any sort of redress from the German government for the Holocaust, because my family was over in America, my direct family.
00:37:54.000 We had extended family in the Holocaust, but my direct family was over here.
00:37:58.000 So I'm not owed anything by the German government in Holocaust reparations.
00:38:01.000 If, however, somebody survives the Holocaust, they get some sort of reparations from the German government.
00:38:06.000 That makes some sort of sense.
00:38:07.000 You suffer the harm.
00:38:08.000 You deserve some sort of recompense.
00:38:10.000 Instead, what is being done is to broaden that concept out to the idea that if you are black in America, just inherently, right now, you don't have to show any evidence that you were specifically targeted by Jim Crow or by slavery.
00:38:22.000 You can't by slavery because it's been a while.
00:38:24.000 And Jim Crow, it's hard to say that Jim Crow has targeted you when you were born in 2002, for example.
00:38:29.000 But the idea is that every disparity is due to this sort of discrimination and therefore a broad-based solution is the answer.
00:38:36.000 Well in a second, I'm going to explain how much of the wealth gap, we're going to try and estimate how much of the wealth gap is due to slavery and Jim Crow and how much is not.
00:38:45.000 So that matters only in the sense that if you are trying to determine You know, whether slavery and Jim Crow are really responsible for the entire difference in economic performance and economic wealth between black and white, you should actually examine the statistics.
00:38:59.000 You can't just throw out every disparity and suggest that that is due to underlying discrimination.
00:38:59.000 That sort of stuff matters.
00:39:03.000 Also, as a corollary, very important to note, That disparities exist within every group.
00:39:09.000 Discrimination has happened to a bevy of groups in the United States.
00:39:12.000 People in the United States are not talking about reparations for the Chinese who were viciously discriminated against when they came to the United States.
00:39:19.000 Reparations are not being talked about for Jews who are barred from a lot of the same places that blacks were barred from for many decades in the United States.
00:39:26.000 Reparations are not talked about For a wide variety of groups that have been discriminated against in the United States.
00:39:31.000 And the reason those reparations aren't talked about is because to bring history forward and then suggest that as a descendant of somebody who was discriminated against, you are therefore owed something by a descendant of somebody who discriminated.
00:39:41.000 I never quote the Bible, but I think the Bible happens to be correct on the proposition that you don't make a child pay for the sins of their parents.
00:39:50.000 That is a recipe for a society that is disastrous in its ability to actually heal wounds.
00:39:58.000 But let's talk about the wealth gap issue.
00:40:00.000 So yesterday on my radio show, I talked specifically about the wealth gap.
00:40:04.000 I said some of the wealth gap is inherently due to slavery and Jim Crow, and much of the wealth gap is not due to slavery and Jim Crow.
00:40:10.000 This apparently is enough for Media Matters to clip me out of context and suggest that I'm saying that the entire wealth gap is due Okay, Coleman Hughes, who was called to testify by the Republicans yesterday in the slavery reparations hearing.
00:40:31.000 He testified about slavery reparations, and then he was insulted for it.
00:40:34.000 Here's what he had to say, and then we're gonna go through the reason he was actually called, which is that he's done a very solid analysis, dating back to July 2018, of exactly how we should view the wealth gap in the United States.
00:40:45.000 Reparations, by definition, are only given to victims.
00:40:49.000 So the moment you give me reparations, you've made me into a victim without my consent.
00:40:55.000 The question is not what America owes me by virtue of my ancestry.
00:41:00.000 The question is what all Americans owe each other by virtue of being citizens of the same nation.
00:41:08.000 And the obligation of citizenship is not transactional.
00:41:11.000 It's not contingent on ancestry.
00:41:14.000 It never expires, and it can't be paid off.
00:41:18.000 For all these reasons, Bill H.R.
00:41:20.000 40 is a moral and political mistake.
00:41:22.000 Thank you.
00:41:23.000 Thank you, Mr. Hughes.
00:41:25.000 And then he was booed.
00:41:27.000 Chill, chill, chill, chill.
00:41:28.000 He was presumptive, but he still has a right to speak.
00:41:31.000 He's presumptive, but he still has a right.
00:41:33.000 How dare he say things I disagree with, says Steve Cohen of Tennessee.
00:41:37.000 OK, so the fact that he is what Coleman Hughes says there, which is that not every black person in America is a victim.
00:41:45.000 The left would like pretty much every black person, pretty much everybody in America to feel like a victim.
00:41:45.000 I think that's true.
00:41:50.000 But certainly black folks in America, they would like them to feel like victims, even though the philosophy of being a victim of America is one of the chief obstacles to achievement in America.
00:42:00.000 And when I talk about individual choice and how you can rise from poverty, I think that's a fairly inspiring message, a lot more inspiring than America owes you a check because your great-great-great-great-great-grandfather was a slave, or because your grandfather suffered in Jim Crow Alabama.
00:42:15.000 It seems to me a better message to suggest not that your neighbor in your dorm room at Harvard owes you a check because of the color of his skin and the color of your skin.
00:42:25.000 It seems like a better message to say, make these decisions that are good and you will rise out of poverty.
00:42:30.000 Let's start with, let's try and break this down.
00:42:32.000 So the argument number one is that certain people deserve reparations.
00:42:35.000 Again, I think if you were specifically harmed, then there's an argument that you deserve something.
00:42:38.000 The question is, from whom?
00:42:40.000 From whom?
00:42:41.000 So you deserve it from the people who discriminated against you, presumably, not from their grandkids, who did not discriminate against you.
00:42:47.000 Number two, just because there's a vast wealth gap, does not mean that that entire wealth gap, or your personal situation, is a result of discrimination.
00:42:56.000 On a broad level, some of it is, just on average.
00:42:59.000 But that doesn't mean that all of it is, or that your specific situation is.
00:43:01.000 This is how statistics work.
00:43:03.000 So Coleman Hughes, who was ripped up and down for this, Ray Sani, who writes for HBO, tweeted out that it was fine to call Coleman Hughes a C-word.
00:43:10.000 A C-word.
00:43:11.000 C-O-O-N.
00:43:13.000 Right?
00:43:13.000 Like the racial slur.
00:43:15.000 This is what Ray Sani wrote.
00:43:16.000 Perfectly fine.
00:43:17.000 You can call him that until midnight Pacific Standard Time.
00:43:20.000 Because he disagrees with Ta-Nehisi Coates.
00:43:20.000 Why?
00:43:22.000 As do, by the way, one third of black Americans.
00:43:24.000 And then Jamel Bowie of the New York Times, always tolerant, always kind, he tweets out, Will the Republican members of the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties have anyone serious speaking against reparations?
00:43:35.000 Or will they just invite Candace Owens to do her thing again?
00:43:39.000 Well, Coleman Hughes actually is a serious human who has written a serious analysis of the wealth gap.
00:43:44.000 It's available at Quillette.
00:43:46.000 He talks about the fact that he has a long, long piece in which he talks about slavery and American prosperity.
00:43:55.000 He says that the factor offered as an explanation for the wealth gap is the exclusion of blacks from a set of New Deal policies designed to promote home ownership, income growth, and wealth accrual.
00:44:04.000 After World War II, whites received the vast majority of government-backed mortgage loans.
00:44:07.000 By the time the civil rights gains of the 60s made those loans available to blacks, it was too late.
00:44:11.000 The crucial economic boon of the previous two decades, during which housing values rapidly appreciated had already passed, blacks, reeling from the effects of redlining and income suppression, couldn't enter the housing market at its new prices.
00:44:23.000 Wealth, in the form of property and inheritances, became a birthright for whites, and blacks were trapped in poverty.
00:44:28.000 Coleman Hughes says, this story, though based in truth, has been massaged to give the false impression that benevolence from the state is a prerequisite for wealth accrual.
00:44:37.000 The account even contains some factual errors.
00:44:40.000 It is true that the median income of white men more than tripled between 1939 and 1960, but the median income of black men more than quintupled during that same period.
00:44:49.000 Between 1940 and 1960, the black poverty rate fell from 87% to 47% before any significant civil rights gains were made.
00:44:58.000 Also, the fact is that there have been other groups discriminated against.
00:45:02.000 Starting with the California Alien Land Law of 1913, 14 states passed laws preventing Japanese-American peasant farmers from owning land and property.
00:45:09.000 The laws existed until 1952.
00:45:12.000 There's not a lot of talk about reparations to Japanese Americans over all of that, specifically because Asian Americans overperform in terms of income and wealth accrual.
00:45:19.000 He says historical racism can't explain wealth disparities between groups of the same race, either.
00:45:24.000 A 2015 survey of wealth in Boston found that the median black household had only $8 of wealth.
00:45:30.000 But the $8 figure only pertained to black Bostonians of American ancestry, black Bostonians of Caribbean ancestry, had $12,000 of wealth, despite having identical rates of college graduation, only slightly higher incomes, and being equally black in the same city.
00:45:44.000 He says there's a kernel of truth to the idea that the wealth gap is historically based.
00:45:50.000 But that doesn't mean that the vast majority of the wealth gap is attributable to historical discrimination.
00:45:59.000 So that's what Coleman Hughes writes about and he gets ripped up and down for all this.
00:46:02.000 The second contention of the slavery reparations advocates is that this is going to heal wounds.
00:46:07.000 I ask you, is it really going to heal wounds to make white people who had nothing to do with slavery pay black people who were never enslaved?
00:46:14.000 Like, who receives these payments?
00:46:18.000 Barack Obama, who's never had a slave ancestor?
00:46:22.000 Who exactly?
00:46:23.000 How are we going to pick this out?
00:46:24.000 And who's going to pay those?
00:46:25.000 Jews who arrived in 1907?
00:46:27.000 Asians who arrived?
00:46:29.000 Irish people?
00:46:30.000 Some of whom immigrated to the United States to fight in the Civil War on behalf of freeing slaves?
00:46:34.000 Like, who exactly is going to pay these reparations?
00:46:37.000 How is that going to heal wounds?
00:46:38.000 Finally, there's the argument that this is going to better lives and make lives better.
00:46:42.000 I don't see the evidence that signing an $80,000 check is either going to heal wounds or make lives better.
00:46:46.000 Dropping wealth over folks doesn't just fix the problem.
00:46:50.000 And we've been trying redistributionist policies in this country in the war on poverty since 1960s.
00:46:55.000 And the poverty gap remains.
00:46:56.000 And so does the racial wealth gap.
00:46:58.000 The fact is, the government has tried to solve a lot of these problems over and over again.
00:47:01.000 The Community Reinvestment Act, which largely led to the subprime mortgage crisis, was a direct attempt to address the evils of redlining.
00:47:08.000 The idea was that banks had not been providing black homeowners and potential homeowners with the loans that they should have.
00:47:13.000 Thus, subprime mortgages would be sponsored by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
00:47:18.000 That happened.
00:47:19.000 And then you know what happened?
00:47:19.000 A lot of people couldn't pay those subprime mortgages and the mortgage market melted down.
00:47:24.000 The government is not always the solution to a historic problem.
00:47:27.000 So there are all sorts of problems here.
00:47:28.000 Not one of these problems that I am pointing out is in any way downplaying the evils of slavery or Jim Crow.
00:47:35.000 But none of this conversation is honest from folks on the left.
00:47:37.000 The conversation is simply that if you don't agree with Ta-Nehisi Coates on slavery reparations, then you also must not agree with Ta-Nehisi Coates that slavery was bad.
00:47:44.000 And that, of course, is idiotic.
00:47:46.000 Okay, time for some things I like, and then some things that I hate.
00:47:49.000 So, things that I like today.
00:47:52.000 So yesterday was indeed Juneteenth.
00:47:55.000 And it's a state holiday in the state of Texas.
00:47:59.000 It should become a national holiday.
00:48:01.000 The Emancipation Proclamation issued on yesterday's date in 1863.
00:48:05.000 The Emancipation Proclamation is a particularly fascinating document.
00:48:08.000 Lincoln said he thought it was the most important thing he'd ever done.
00:48:10.000 Basically, he was born to do it.
00:48:12.000 The Emancipation Proclamation shifted the nature of the Civil War from a battle about reunifying the Union to a battle about the abolition of slavery.
00:48:20.000 He was urged by his own cabinet not to announce it until after a victorious battle.
00:48:25.000 He did wait until after a victorious battle.
00:48:27.000 And then he threatened the South in late September 1862 that if they did not come back to the table, he would issue the Emancipation Proclamation.
00:48:34.000 And then he went ahead and he did it.
00:48:37.000 He said, whereas on the 22nd day of September, in the year of our Lord, 1,862, a proclamation was issued by the President of the United States containing, among other things, the following to it, that on the first day of January, in the year of our Lord, 1,863, all persons held as slaves within any state or designated part of a state, the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States, shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free.
00:49:00.000 And the executive government of the United States, including the military and naval authority thereof, will recognize and maintain the freedom of such persons and will do no act or acts to repress such persons or any of them in any efforts they may make for their actual freedom.
00:49:15.000 That the executive will on the first day of January by proclamation designate the states and parts of states, if any, in which the people thereof respectively shall then be in rebellion against the United States and the fact that any state or the people thereof shall on that day be in good faith represented in Congress of the United States by members Shall, in the absence of strong countervailing testimony, be deemed conclusive evidence that such state and the people thereof are not then in rebellion against the United States.
00:49:37.000 Now, therefore, I, Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States, by virtue of the power in me vested as Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, in time of actual armed rebellion against the authority and government of the United States, and as a fit and necessary war measure for suppressing said rebellion, do, on this first day of January, in the year of our Lord, 1863,
00:49:57.000 And in accordance with my purpose, so to do publicly proclaim for the full period of 100 days from the first day aforementioned, order and designate as the states and parts of states wherein the people thereof respectively are in this day rebellion against the United States, and then he names all of the various principalities and states that are in rebellion.
00:50:14.000 He says, by virtue of the power and for the purpose aforesaid, I do order and declare that all persons held as slaves within said designated states and parts of states are and henceforward shall be free.
00:50:25.000 that the executive government of the United States, including the military and naval authorities thereof, will recognize and maintain the freedom of said persons.
00:50:31.000 And I hereby enjoin upon the people so declared to be free to abstain from all violence, unless in necessary self-defense.
00:50:37.000 And I recommend to them that, in all cases when allowed, they labor faithfully for reasonable wages.
00:50:43.000 He's calling for peace, obviously.
00:50:45.000 He says, I further declare and make known that such persons of suitable condition will be received into the armed service of the United States.
00:50:51.000 So he's gonna say that black folks could serve in the Union Army.
00:50:54.000 As upon this act, sincerely believed to be an act of justice, warranted by the Constitution, upon military necessity, I invoke the considerate judgment of mankind and the gracious favor of Almighty God.
00:51:05.000 Now, one of the things that this was really important in doing, the Emancipation Proclamation, was keeping the Brits out of the war.
00:51:10.000 So there's a lot of talk about the British entering the war on behalf of the Confederacy in order to split apart the United States.
00:51:16.000 The Emancipation Proclamation, by transforming the war from a war of unification, a war on the Confederacy, into a war in favor of abolishing slavery, Basically kept the Brits out.
00:51:26.000 It basically kept the Europeans out because they were opposed to slavery and so now they would be on the side of an evil institution rather than the side of a of a rebelling part of a nation.
00:51:38.000 A deeply important moment in American history and a transformative moment in American history that we should certainly all celebrate.
00:51:46.000 It's.
00:51:48.000 This is an amazing country.
00:51:49.000 It is.
00:51:50.000 I mean, we have a monument to a president who we have a massive monument to a president who was able to mobilize a population to fight a war on behalf of freeing a subject people, people who are enslaved and brutalized.
00:52:04.000 That's an amazing thing.
00:52:06.000 And the fact that the United States has not always lived up to its commitment to its highest ideals, that does not mean that the American people have not sought to do so on a broad level, or that now the American people are guilty for the sins that have been committed in the past.
00:52:21.000 If we want to live with each other, if we actually want to come together and lead better lives, then reopening wounds by grouping people according to race and suggesting that people who are not guilty for sins pay other people who didn't directly suffer from those sins, that's a very bad way of doing this.
00:52:38.000 It's unconstitutional, it's illegal, and it's negative.
00:52:41.000 We should all be able to celebrate the legacy of the Emancipation Proclamation together, frankly.
00:52:45.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.
00:52:51.000 So, it is pretty impressive how Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez has been able to escape censure from her own party.
00:52:57.000 As I said yesterday, I am just waiting for AOC, the estimable, brilliant AOC, to announce that the earth is flat so that we can hear the media's explanation of why actually she is correct, why actually she is right.
00:53:10.000 Well, it's funny to watch everybody treat her as a child.
00:53:13.000 I mean, other Democrats literally treat her as a child.
00:53:16.000 So there's one representative who yesterday was asked about her statements that the detention centers on the border are actually concentration camps, like Holocaust-like concentration camps.
00:53:29.000 And Representative Henry Queller, who is a representative for Texas's 28th congressional district, he was asked about this.
00:53:36.000 And he explained that AOC just uses words differently than other humans.
00:53:40.000 Her comparison to the Holocaust, and especially ending it by saying, never again.
00:53:48.000 Well, again, without due respect to her, she has a different usage of words and certainly maybe a different perception.
00:53:56.000 I live on the border.
00:53:57.000 I've been to those detention centers.
00:54:00.000 I've been to those shelters, as you know.
00:54:03.000 If they're adults, they're in detention centers.
00:54:05.000 But if they're children, they are put in shelters that are run by non-profits.
00:54:10.000 I would not use the terms that she used and imply anything else after that.
00:54:14.000 She has a different usage, you see.
00:54:16.000 She just uses English differently.
00:54:17.000 Remember when Nancy Pelosi said the same thing about Ilhan Omar?
00:54:20.000 So Ilhan Omar's a vicious anti-Semite.
00:54:21.000 And Nancy Pelosi said exactly the same thing about Ilhan Omar.
00:54:25.000 She said, oh, you know, the thing is that she just uses words differently than other humans.
00:54:29.000 The incident that happened was, I don't think our colleague is anti-semitic.
00:54:34.000 I think she has a different experience in the use of words, doesn't understand that some of them are fraught with meaning that she didn't realize.
00:54:43.000 But nonetheless, that we had to address.
00:54:48.000 You know, one of the things I love right now is how this new class of freshman Democrats, they are being treated like my three-year-old son.
00:54:53.000 I appreciate the enthusiasm, but stop running into walls.
00:54:57.000 They use words differently.
00:54:58.000 So AOC uses words differently.
00:55:01.000 And so does Ilhan Omar.
00:55:02.000 She uses words differently.
00:55:03.000 This is why English should be the official language of the United States.
00:55:06.000 Mainly so that people who already speak English should use words the way that humans use words so that we can understand the words that they use.
00:55:12.000 Don't tell me that AOC didn't know what she was saying.
00:55:14.000 She knew exactly what she was saying, and then she was upset that she said it, and so she lied about it.
00:55:18.000 And the same thing is true of Ilhan Omar.
00:55:20.000 She knew exactly what she was saying, and then people objected.
00:55:22.000 And then the Democrats came to her defense by pretending that she's a small child.
00:55:26.000 It really is pretty demeaning, frankly.
00:55:29.000 And then Nancy Pelosi was asked yesterday about AOC's ridiculous concentration camp remarks, and here was her explanation.
00:55:34.000 It's all Republicans pouncing everywhere.
00:55:36.000 These members of Congress are, they come and represent their district and their point of view, and they take responsibility for the statements that they make.
00:55:47.000 I'm not up to date on her most recent one.
00:55:49.000 I saw something in the news, but I, no, I haven't spoken to her about that.
00:55:53.000 I do have some comments to make to my caucus, writ large, about the political nature of Oh, it's the Republicans pouncing is the issue.
00:56:04.000 It's pouncy, pouncy, pouncy Republicans.
00:56:06.000 Like a group of kittens.
00:56:07.000 Ooh, pouncing everywhere.
00:56:08.000 Pounce.
00:56:09.000 Funny.
00:56:09.000 for his words, they will misrepresent anything that you say just if you have one word in the sentence that they can exploit.
00:56:17.000 Oh, it's the Republicans pouncing is the issue.
00:56:19.000 It's pouncy, pouncy, pouncy Republicans like a group of kittens, ooh, pouncing everywhere, pounce.
00:56:25.000 Funny, some of us actually call out the president when he says things that are untrue.
00:56:29.000 I make a habit of it here on the show.
00:56:32.000 When the president says something dumb or untrue, I will say that he says something that is dumb or untrue.
00:56:36.000 I will say that the president is lying about things.
00:56:39.000 And some of us actually try to do this.
00:56:41.000 Nancy Pelosi, however, is defending the worst in her own contingent because obviously she is a political hack.
00:56:46.000 I mean, that is what she's paid to do.
00:56:48.000 The funniest part of this is that our journalistic firefighters are not coming to the defense of Chuck Todd today.
00:56:53.000 So Chuck Todd comes out and he says, yeah, AOC is wrong.
00:56:56.000 These aren't concentration camps.
00:56:57.000 That's absurd.
00:56:58.000 And he was trending last night on Twitter and AOC directly responded to him.
00:57:03.000 And now she and the rest of the media are gaslighting Chuck Todd.
00:57:06.000 So I have to admit that, again, internecine warfare among Democrats in the journalistic establishment are somewhat amusing.
00:57:11.000 But Chuck Todd is correct about this.
00:57:14.000 After being criticized, Ocasio-Cortez tried to make a distinction between concentration camps and Nazi death camps, where the industrialized mass slaughter of the Holocaust occurred.
00:57:23.000 Fair enough, but Congresswoman, tens of thousands were also brutalized, tortured, starved, and ultimately died in concentration camps.
00:57:29.000 Camps like Dachau.
00:57:31.000 If you want to criticize the shameful treatment of people at our southern border, fine.
00:57:34.000 You'll have plenty of company.
00:57:36.000 But be careful comparing them to Nazi concentration camps, because they're not At all comparable.
00:57:43.000 Okay, and then AOC responds by smacking Chuck Todd.
00:57:46.000 Now she's just fully gaslighting everyone.
00:57:50.000 She says, well Chuck Todd, the fact that you slipped in Nazi when I never said that is pretty unfortunate.
00:57:55.000 You know what you did say?
00:57:55.000 It's so funny, the entire media just ignored the part where she said never again in that clip.
00:58:00.000 It's incredible.
00:58:01.000 And she said never again in that clip, which is a specific Holocaust reference.
00:58:04.000 Everyone knows that's a specific Holocaust reference.
00:58:07.000 Also, when you say concentration camp, I really doubt that she was talking about the long history of the Boer War.
00:58:14.000 I don't think she knows what that is.
00:58:16.000 I think if you asked her what the Boer War is, she would think it's a cooking show about roasting pork.
00:58:21.000 I mean, this is, it's ridiculous.
00:58:22.000 She says, Chuck Todd is responsible.
00:58:24.000 I'm gonna gaslight you.
00:58:25.000 And he says, almost as unfortunate as the fact that you spent this whole time without discussing DHS freezers, dog pounds, missing children, human rights abuses that uphold use of this term.
00:58:33.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:58:34.000 Chuck Todd is not concerned enough about what's happening on the border.
00:58:39.000 It's, it's, it's ridiculous.
00:58:40.000 I'm sorry.
00:58:41.000 This whole thing is ridiculous.
00:58:42.000 But we, I guess we have to, we're going to continue with the myth that AOC knows what she's talking about.
00:58:45.000 The good news is she provides new fodder for Democrats to defend every day.
00:58:48.000 That is increasingly stupid.
00:58:50.000 So she did a, another Instagram live.
00:58:52.000 And in this Instagram live, I guess this is the, this may have been the, was this the same one?
00:58:55.000 She's wearing the same shirt.
00:58:56.000 So I assume this is the same one where she suggested that the Holocaust was happening on our Southern border.
00:59:02.000 In the same video, she also had some points to make about socialism that are so wildly untrue that I'm looking forward to seeing how the media spin them.
00:59:09.000 A lot of people think about capitalism and they're like, oh, capitalism, that means businesses, right?
00:59:15.000 That means a free market, right?
00:59:18.000 That means, um, that means competing, uh, for having different products compete in the market, right?
00:59:26.000 That's what capitalism is, right?
00:59:28.000 That's not Um, what?
00:59:30.000 So, she literally does not know what she's talking about.
00:59:32.000 Like, at all.
00:59:32.000 Free markets do mean businesses and businesses competing with each other.
00:59:36.000 Mixed economies exist.
00:59:38.000 You can have free market economies with democratic socialist businesses.
00:59:43.000 Um, what?
00:59:46.000 So she literally does not know what she was talking about, like at all.
00:59:50.000 Free markets do mean businesses and businesses competing with each other, and they compete because they are, wait for it, free.
00:59:58.000 When people say capitalism, they just mean that you can invest in these businesses.
01:00:02.000 That's all capitalism is.
01:00:04.000 But according to her, you can have businesses that are democratic socialist businesses.
01:00:08.000 What does that mean?
01:00:09.000 You mean a business run by the state?
01:00:11.000 In other words, subsidized by the state?
01:00:12.000 So in other words, not a free market because it's subsidized by the state?
01:00:17.000 Don't worry, guys.
01:00:17.000 She's so smart.
01:00:18.000 She's beyond me.
01:00:19.000 I mean, IQ points up the wazoo.
01:00:21.000 Just incredible, incredible brilliance from this person.
01:00:24.000 I'm so glad that the Democrats and the media have decided to defend her until the end of time.
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01:01:12.000 Joe Biden rounds out his very bad week with all sides attacking him.
01:01:17.000 Sparks fly at the reparations hearing on Capitol Hill, and homelessness destroys America's best cities.
01:01:23.000 Finally, the mailbag.