As the Derek Chauvin jury begins its deliberations, the media ratchet up the racial tension, and Maxine Waters pushes violence in the streets as Democrats defend her. Ben Shapiro breaks down the evidence and the defense rebuttal from the defense and the prosecution in the case of Derek Chaevin, who is on trial for the murder of George Floyd, who was found lying unconscious on the ground after a night out drinking with friends and family in the early morning hours of August 9th, 2014. The jury is now deliberating, and the world is on edge as we await a verdict in the most highly-publicized criminal trial in the United States since OJ Simpson's case in which a jury acquitted him of the most serious charge of murder in the history of the U.S. He claims that he was the victim of a vicious attack by Floyd, and that he acted in self-defense after the victim was knocked unconscious by a knee to the back of his head. Ben Shapiro argues that the evidence points to a much lower standard of culpability than the one used by the prosecution, and argues that a jury would have been much more likely to find him guilty of the lesser charge of manslaughter than the first-degree murder charge he is facing, which is the most likely to be accepted by the jury. . Don't miss it! Subscribe to the Venture Bureau Podcast! Subscribe today using our podcast s RSS feed! Subscribe on iTunes Learn more about our sponsor, Venture Bureau. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts Subscribe on Stitcher Learn about our new video streaming service, Treppertruck. Become a supporter of our new venture, VaynerMedia? Subscribe to our new podcast, The Venture Bureau, and get 20% off your first month with discount promo code VIVEALEXAKEYSJUICY! Subscribe and save 10% off the first month on our new monthly shipping offer! You'll get 7 months of VIVE FREE shipping when you shop at VIVE and get an ad-free version of the VIVE, plus a FREE 7-day VIP membership when you become a member! The VIVE membership! VIVE is giving you get 7 days early and receive an ad discount when you sign up to VIVE gets a complimentary copy of our newest issue of the show, VIVE will have access to the show? VIVE can vouch for the show and receive $50 and receive a FREE 3-month VIP membership?
00:00:00.000As the Chauvin jury begins its deliberations, the media ratchet up the racial tension, and Maxine Waters pushes violence in the streets as Democrats defend her.
00:01:39.000Now, they should have been sequestered all along.
00:01:41.000The fact that they weren't sequestered is a real problem because it turns out that this is the most publicized, high-profile criminal trial in the United States probably since OJ Simpson.
00:01:50.000This thing has taken up enormous sums of time and energy.
00:01:56.000It's created protests and riots in the street for the last year.
00:02:00.000And now, only now, did the judge decide it was time to sequester the jury.
00:02:04.000And that was only after everyone on the jury knows the base and gross truth here, which is that if they don't convict, then their name is going to be on the front page of a paper probably two weeks from now, and then their life will be ruined.
00:02:17.000If you are on that jury, I have a lot of sympathy for you, frankly, because it takes an enormous amount of bravery to simply look at the evidence and the facts in the case and come to a logical conclusion.
00:02:26.000And there are a couple of logical conclusions here.
00:02:27.000I mean, I could certainly see a conviction of Derek Chauvin for manslaughter.
00:02:31.000I think it's almost impossible not to see reasonable doubt.
00:02:35.000When it comes to the second and third degree murder charges, manslaughter is a lower standard because it suggests reckless disregard for the life of another.
00:02:42.000And so you can make the case that even if Chauvin originally wasn't doing anything particularly bad, once Floyd went unconscious, he should have gotten off of him.
00:02:49.000That's an easier case than the notion that he was committing a felony assault against George Floyd on purpose.
00:02:57.000Or the case that he caused George Floyd's death, not by denying him care after he was already unconscious and staying on top of him, but through his actions alone.
00:03:05.000Frankly, I find it extraordinarily difficult to believe that the simple pressure of Derek Chauvin's knee on George Floyd's back, not on his neck, on his back, because this was again testified to by prosecution witnesses, Is that the body cam footage showed that Chauvin's knee was not in fact in position to cut off either George Floyd's airways or the oxygen flow to his brain.
00:03:24.000If that was the case, then you are suggesting a 140-pound man with 40 pounds of gear on him kneeling on the back of George Floyd for about nine minutes was enough to kill the 6'5", 240-pound George Floyd Without any sort of intervening circumstances.
00:03:39.000And people who are testifying on behalf of the prosecution basically said that, which is quite crazy to me.
00:03:44.000The idea that the drug-fueled behavior of Floyd for the 16 minutes prior to the 9 minutes that we've all seen on tape, that had nothing to do with anything.
00:03:55.000That George Floyd having enough fentanyl in him to kill a horse had nothing to do with anything.
00:03:58.000The fact that he had 75% arterial blockage That had nothing to do with anything.
00:04:05.000Again, the prosecution had a heavy burden here because they have to get to beyond a reasonable doubt, right?
00:04:09.000It is not just that they have to prove by a preponderance of the evidence, which is the standard in civil court, you know, like a majority of the evidence, you think probably it's Chauvin's fault.
00:04:18.000It has to be beyond a reasonable doubt that this is Chauvin's fault.
00:04:20.000And it has to be shown a couple of things.
00:04:22.000One, that he did not act as a reasonable police officer should have.
00:04:25.000And two, that he's the actual causative factor in George Floyd's death.
00:04:28.000That he was a substantial factor in George Floyd's death.
00:04:32.000There's a great analysis over legal insurrection, which has been doing excellent work covering the day-to-day on this case.
00:04:38.000And one of the analysts over there was writing about sort of the differences in terms of the causation arguments being put forward by the prosecution and the defense.
00:04:45.000The prosecution is essentially arguing that this case is akin to a man is on a subway platform and a mugger comes up to him and pops out of the shadows and scares the guy.
00:04:58.000And the guy topples backward onto the subway tracks and then is run over.
00:05:03.000Okay, so that would be the substantial factor, right?
00:05:04.000Without the mugger there, without the mugger having scared the guy, he would be fine.
00:05:08.000And what the defense is arguing is that this is more akin to somebody, like a normal person on the street, encountering a police officer, and the police officer trying to arrest the person, and the person dropping dead of a heart attack.
00:05:21.000Was the police officer a substantial factor in that person's death?
00:05:24.000The defense is arguing, well, really not, because it was the underlying causes that were the greatest factor in the death.
00:05:31.000If the arrest merely sent up the heart rate like it would for any normal person, and this was a particularly susceptible suspect, And that removes the causative factor, because that's factor number one.
00:05:40.000The reasonable police officer stuff is all about whether Chauvin did something that is so outside the realm of what a normal police officer would do or reasonable police officer would do that he deserves to get 10 years, 15 years, 20 years in jail for it.
00:05:54.000And there again, they have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Chauvin acted with a certain level of recklessness, if you want manslaughter, or that he acted with a direct intent to felony assault George Floyd, which, again, is a super hard case.
00:06:06.000As Eric Nelson, the defense attorney, kept pointing out, Chauvin knows the body cams are on.
00:06:11.000The notion that Chauvin is just committing this felony assault in front of people because he desperately wants to kill George Floyd or because he doesn't care if George Floyd dies is sort of counterintuitive, considering that Chauvin was a many-year serving police officer on the force.
00:06:25.000This was not his first rodeo, exactly.
00:06:27.000But the prosecution laid out its final case yesterday.
00:06:29.000The defense laid out its final case yesterday.
00:06:31.000The prosecutor's case was very much rooted in emotion.
00:06:34.000And I have to say, I think that the judge in this particular case, Judge Cahill, The way that he ruled on a variety of issues presents serious issues for appeal.
00:06:43.000We're going to get to Maxine Waters in a second because that is a serious issue for appeal.
00:06:46.000But there are many situations here where it seems like there are serious issues for appeal.
00:06:49.000Number one, third degree murder should not have been on the docket here.
00:06:54.000Third degree depraved heart murder is not the right charge here because depraved heart murder requires that your malice be directed at others, your recklessness be directed at others, not at other.
00:07:04.000This is first-year evidence in law school.
00:07:06.000You do not allow evidence as a judge that has nothing to do with whether the case is true or not.
00:07:28.000And when you see on TV, people say that certain information is prejudicial to the jury.
00:07:33.000What they mean is that it is not relevant or pertinent to the guilt or innocence of a particular party in the case.
00:07:39.000Just as it would have been prejudicial to simply talk about George Floyd's criminal background without any reference to the case because it didn't have anything to do with the case.
00:07:47.000It is absolutely prejudicial to have witness testimony on how upset they personally were and how they couldn't sleep because they saw George Floyd die.
00:07:53.000That's true for presumably tens of millions of people who saw the tape of George Floyd dying in the first place.
00:07:59.000So none of that should have been allowed in court.
00:08:00.000That's going to be an issue on appeal.
00:08:02.000There will be issues on appeal, for sure, with regard to the treatment of the jury by outside forces.
00:08:09.000It's my contention that this case never should have been held in Minneapolis in the first place.
00:08:12.000This is like a perfect textbook case of when you transfer venue.
00:08:16.000Minneapolis is the site, it is the epicenter of racial conflicts in the country right now.
00:08:20.000It is the epicenter of all attention in the country right now.
00:08:23.000And it is made up of a jury The jurors are members of the community who are going to have to deal with all of that fallout, which of course makes it very difficult to have a fair and impartial jury of your peers if you are Derek Chauvin.
00:08:35.000So there can be a lot of issues on appeal here.
00:08:37.000So the prosecutor laid out his case and what I was going to say about the prosecutor's case is that it was very emotionally laden.
00:08:43.000Most of the prosecutor's case was not about laying out.
00:08:47.000Most of his case was not about laying out the fact by fact moment by moment timeline of what happened with Chauvin and Floyd because that actually doesn't cut in favor of the prosecution. Most of it was about the basic idea that if you just watch the tape, you know exactly what happened. And that, of course, is not the whole story, as the defense said. So here is the prosecutor concluding with, I don't know, something from Dr. Seuss's The Grinch.
00:09:11.000Here we go. You were told, for example, that Mr. Floyd died, that Mr. Floyd died because his heart was too big.
00:09:27.000And now having seen all the evidence, having heard all the evidence, you know the truth.
00:09:32.000And the truth of the matter is that the reason George Floyd is dead is because Mr. Shulman's heart was too small.
00:09:40.000OK, I mean, that's very emotional and it's going to make a lot of tweets light up with joy.
00:09:46.000But is that really a value to the jury?
00:09:49.000I mean, again, the case for recklessness, the case for outright malice is pretty low here.
00:09:55.000The case for felony assault, I still think is kind of low.
00:09:58.000The case for recklessness, he might be able to make on a manslaughter charge, but this sort of, you know, emotionally laden stuff, I don't know.
00:10:05.000It doesn't say anything probative to me.
00:10:07.000What the prosecutor did do when he was discussing the charges, he put up a chart of the charges against Chauvin.
00:10:12.000Explaining the elements of the various crimes.
00:10:14.000This chart actually is useful to understand what exactly is happening in the case.
00:10:21.000One, the death of George Floyd has to be proven.
00:10:23.000Okay, well, he's dead, so that would be proven.
00:10:26.000The second element is that the defendant's actions were a substantial causal factor in Mr. Floyd's death.
00:10:31.000The fact that other causes contributed to the death does not relieve the defendant of criminal liability.
00:10:35.000Okay, so this is where I was talking about the disagreement on causation.
00:10:38.000The defense is going to argue substantial causal factor means that it has to be the chief causal factor, right?
00:10:44.000There can be other things that are involved.
00:10:46.000Right, just like in the case that I was mentioning before, where the robber jumps out, the mugger jumps out at you on the subway platform, it's the subway that kills you if you fall off and the subway runs you over, but the mugger is the substantial chief factor in your death, because it is his fault that you got frightened and fell onto the subway tracks.
00:11:02.000Okay, well, the prosecution is arguing something different, which is that if you are just any factor, almost, in the death of somebody, then this means that you are guilty.
00:11:11.000kind of unsustainable on the legal basis. The third element of murder in the second degree is the defendant at the time of causing the death of George Floyd was committing or attempting to commit the felony offense of assault in the third degree saying the defendant assaulted George Floyd intentionally applying unlawful force to Floyd without his consent resulting in bodily harm and the defendant inflicted substantial bodily harm on George Floyd.
00:11:31.000Because, again, there is no actual autopsy result showing that there was damage to George Floyd's trachea, for example, or that he was deprived of oxygen to his brain specifically because of the so-called suppression hole that was being used on George Floyd.
00:11:45.000And the notion that he was using a form of suppression hold that was not allowed by Minneapolis PD is not true.
00:11:50.000It was in the Minneapolis PD playbook.
00:11:52.000Final element, the Defendants Act took place on or about May 25th, 2020 in Hennepin County.
00:11:58.000Okay, so murder in the second degree, I think it's very hard to meet all those standards.
00:12:01.000Murder in the third degree, again, has five elements.
00:12:06.000Okay, but then, and the substantial causal factor element is the same as well.
00:12:12.000Murder in the third degree says the defendant caused the death of George Floyd by an intentional act that was eminently dangerous to other persons, but it wasn't eminently dangerous to other persons.
00:12:23.000I think third degree just does not apply.
00:12:25.000Then you get to manslaughter in the second degree, and this one is a lot looser.
00:12:28.000Here, you just have to show that the defendant caused the death of George Floyd by culpable negligence, whereby the defendant created an unreasonable risk and consciously took a chance of causing death or great bodily harm.
00:12:38.000And here, you don't have to intend that your conduct be harmful.
00:13:37.000Again, I think that the base medical fact pattern here, which is that George Floyd was high as a kite, had three times the deadly amount of fentanyl in his system, had a 75% arterial blockage.
00:13:46.000It's extremely difficult for me to believe that that is not a level of reasonable doubt that applies to the causation factor in all of the charges.
00:13:54.000I could see a jury going the other way on manslaughter, but they really would have to ignore this.
00:13:57.000Here's Eric Nelson talking about this.
00:13:59.000This is the defense attorney for Derek Chauvin.
00:14:02.000You have to be convinced that the defendant's actions caused the death of Mr. Floyd.
00:14:11.000And throughout the course of this trial, the state has tried And called numerous witnesses to try to convince you that asphyxiation is the singular cause of death.
00:14:32.000It's because actions that happened before Mr. Floyd was arrested, that had nothing to do with Officer Chauvin's activities, And again, one of the things that the prosecution never really proved is that if George Floyd was already saying, I can't breathe, if he was already in the midst of a medical issue,
00:15:00.000Then Chauvin was not the chief causative factor in his death.
00:15:03.000If you fell down on the subway tracks and then the mugger shouted at you, at that point it's not even the mugger's fault if you get run over by the train.
00:15:08.000It's sort of the case that the defense was making here.
00:15:10.000Now, here is the amazing thing about this.
00:15:12.000I'm trying to present this with as much nuance and detail as I can in a short period of time, and we've gone through a lot of the details in the case in a way that you haven't seen in much of the mainstream media.
00:15:20.000The establishment media do not want to present you the details of the case.
00:15:23.000The establishment media think it is a sin for you to know what the defense has been saying in this case, because the establishment media are rooting for riots.
00:15:29.000I cannot see any other reason why they're presenting the case in the light they're presenting it.
00:15:33.000They're dedicated to the narrative that America is deeply racist, and that if Derek Chauvin is acquitted, it's because of deep American racism, and they are justifying and excusing rioting and looting.
00:15:41.000And anybody who justifies and excuses rioting and looting, they will simply poo-poo and pretend they're not doing it.
00:15:47.000It's an amazingly Anti-American citizen thing to do.
00:15:52.000You're damaging actual Americans who have a right to expect a level of peace in their communities.
00:15:59.000You're damaging them by your establishment media coverage.
00:16:01.000The establishment media is, the way that they have ratcheted up the tension here, the way that they have fostered the notion that if the jury goes the wrong way here, the jury is therefore racist.
00:16:10.000And that if an individual juror sees fit to find reasonable doubt in these cases, it must be that that juror's life will be ruined.
00:16:16.000I mean, honest to God, it will take a person of extraordinary bravery To actually examine the facts in this case.
00:16:22.000Which is why my prediction is that the jury will hang on the murder charges and probably come out in favor of manslaughter.
00:16:29.000Just my personal opinion, could go the other way.
00:16:32.000But we're gonna find out in short order.
00:16:34.000But it's the media coverage that is really the bigger issue here.
00:16:36.000Because no matter how this trial goes, and yes, I understand that a man's life is at stake, and a man's life was at stake a year ago when George Floyd died, but now Derek Chauvin's future is at stake, whether he's gonna spend the next couple decades in jail, which is a major issue, obviously.
00:16:48.000When it comes to the broader national issue, the broader national issue is that the media have a stake in fomenting division in the country that is going to end with more violence and more looting and more rioting unless they get their way.
00:16:59.000It is a form of political blackmail that the media are now engaged in with the American people.
00:17:03.000They're engaged in a game of political chicken, and they're using other people's businesses, other people's livelihoods, other people's very lives as tools in this game, and it's quite disgusting.
00:17:13.000We'll get to more of this in just one second.
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00:18:25.000Okay, so when I say that the media are fomenting all of this, that the media are treating this case as a foregone conclusion or what should be a foregone conclusion just so that people lose their minds if it goes the other way.
00:18:41.000They're being perfectly obvious about this.
00:19:06.000The senior legal analyst at CNN, I don't know why she's the senior legal analyst if she doesn't know the simple fact that defining the standard of reasonable doubt is what defense lawyers do in every single case of which I am aware.
00:19:18.000In a criminal trial, you always start with defining reasonable doubt so the jury understands what standard the prosecutors have to prove.
00:19:26.000If you're trying to argue innocence, then it becomes a preponderance of the evidence case.
00:19:29.000Then it's just, okay, is my case better than his case?
00:19:31.000But the prosecution has to prove beyond a standard of reasonable doubt.
00:19:34.000And yet there you have CNN's senior legal analyst suggesting that it is some sort of sin for the defense to point out the standard.
00:19:40.000This means, of course, that the client is guilty.
00:19:44.000Meanwhile, you have Don Lemon on CNN, your objective news reporter.
00:19:47.000And boy, what a bleep show Don Lemon is.
00:19:50.000Don Lemon was never great, but the evolution of Don Lemon from Basically, Anderson Cooper into Joy Reid has been astonishing to watch over the past few years.
00:20:00.000He is just an openly partisan hack at this point.
00:20:02.000He is not even, I mean, he, he, frankly, he makes Joy Reid look like a piker sometimes.
00:20:06.000Here was Don Lemon yesterday suggesting that this was straight up murder.
00:20:10.000We all know exactly what can happen when a black man or woman's encounter with police goes wrong.
00:20:17.000Every black person in this country understands the anger, the grief, the helpless feeling in the pit of your stomach when it happens again and again.
00:20:26.000And now it's all coming to a head in that jury room in Minneapolis where prosecutors today called on jurors to believe what they saw with their own eyes, saying this wasn't policing, this was murder.
00:20:40.000And of course, Don Lemon isn't just reporting what the prosecutors are saying, saying what they saw with their own eyes.
00:20:56.000And when Don Lemon suggests that every police encounter between black Americans and police officers ends with the black person being mistreated, hurt, murdered by the police, I just, there's no statistical evidence to support this.
00:21:08.000I don't know how many times I have to say this.
00:21:10.000Anecdotal evidence is not statistical evidence.
00:21:28.000The whole idea here is that you take a data point, even a data point like this one that is awkward and doesn't really fit the narrative of a racist murder, and then you turn it into a racist murder for purposes of suggesting that black people are properly suspicious of all of white America because white America is shot through with white supremacy, the only cure for which is to provide unending revision of the American bargain by the federal government.
00:22:16.000This is a piece from the New York Times, circa 1992, talking about the Rodney King riots.
00:22:25.000And it's talking about Maxine Waters here.
00:22:27.000It says, until three weeks ago, the freshman Democratic congresswoman was little known outside the Washington Beltway and among those who follow California politics are black politicians.
00:22:35.000But since the acquittal of four white police officers and the beating of Rodney King set off the worst civil unrest this century, Mrs. Waters has had a lot to say, and not everybody likes it.
00:22:43.000More than any other political leader representing L.A., more even than Mayor Tom Bradley, Mrs. Waters seemed to be all over the airwaves, acting as a voice of the disenfranchised after unrest broke out.
00:22:52.000Going all the way back, by the way, the media were very warm toward the idea that riots were simply the voice of the dispossessed.
00:22:57.000She scared some people and angered others by focusing on justifying rather than condemning the violent reaction to the verdict.
00:23:08.000I mean, Maxine Waters has, she called the L.A.
00:23:11.000riots, in which, by the way, South Central Los Angeles, which was largely black, was burned to the ground in large part, in which Korean business owners were targeted.
00:23:23.000She says, I said in 101 different ways violence is not right, that I don't condone violence, that people can't endanger their own or others' lives.
00:23:29.000What I didn't do is use the airwaves to call people hoodlums and thugs for burning down their own communities.
00:23:33.000It only makes them madder when you call them hoodlums and thugs, as the president did.
00:23:37.000Oh, so you're not justifying what they're doing, you're just saying they're not hoodlums and thugs when they burn down their own neighborhood.
00:23:43.000And she's been doing this her entire career.
00:23:44.000This is nothing new for Maxine Waters.
00:23:46.000You'll remember just a couple of years ago when Maxine Waters said that Trump administration members should be actively, physically confronted whenever they go out in public.
00:23:54.000Here's Maxine Waters just a couple of years ago.
00:23:57.000You see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd.
00:24:11.000And you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere.
00:24:17.000And the left has not only tolerated this, they've celebrated this.
00:24:19.000For a while, Matine Waters was considered persona non grata inside the Democratic Party because she was deeply corrupt.
00:24:24.000She was on the Financial Services Committee, and there were serious questions about how the Financial Services Committee was directing resources to banks in which her husband was involved.
00:24:32.000And she was consistently considered one of the most corrupt members of Congress.
00:24:37.000But, during the Trump era, she became anti-Maxine again.
00:24:40.000She was the person who was going to be promoted by the media as the person who could speak truth to power.
00:24:44.000Trump didn't spring out of a vacuum, guys.
00:24:46.000I know that everybody wants to think, on the left, that Trump killed American politics.
00:24:51.000He came along and he noticed the body of American politics with the knife still in it.
00:24:55.000And then he said, oh, this body has been stabbed.
00:24:58.000Didn't heal it, but he certainly didn't start it.
00:25:00.000Maxine Waters pre-existed Trump as a prominent person in American politics, as an elected official, by some almost 30 years.
00:25:10.000And yet Maxine Waters has not only been tolerated, she's been celebrated, she's been elevated inside the Democratic Party for most of that time with brief periods of respite.
00:25:18.000Okay, so Maxine Waters, of course, the other day, she broke curfew.
00:25:24.000to Minnesota, right, to Minneapolis, to be there, presumably to intimidate the jury, because why the hell else would you be in Minneapolis?
00:25:31.000There were protests in Washington, D.C., too.
00:25:32.000You could have just protested out there.
00:25:34.000She flew into Minneapolis, just as Al Sharpton has now flown into Minneapolis.
00:25:38.000A race baiter who himself has been involved in the incitement of riots.
00:25:41.000And Maxine Waters then told Black Lives Matter that if they didn't get what they wanted, not just a conviction on manslaughter, she said there has to be a conviction on murder charges.
00:25:49.000And then she even suggested there should be a conviction on a charge of first degree murder, which is not even charged in this case.
00:25:54.000She said that if they don't get what they want, then they should, quote unquote, get more confrontational.
00:25:59.000Well, I don't know what more confrontational means in the context of a city that nearly burned down about a year ago.
00:26:04.000So here's Maxine Waters telling BLM just the other day what she wants to happen if she doesn't get her way, if the jury doesn't go her way, which is like pure, simple jury intimidation.
00:26:35.000We've got to get more confrontational.
00:26:37.000We've got to make sure that they know that we mean business.
00:26:42.000So all of this culminated yesterday with Judge Cahill, who again is a former staffer.
00:26:46.000He was appointed by Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty originally as a Republican, but he's a former staffer for Amy Klobuchar, right?
00:26:51.000So the guy is not some sort of crazed right-wing conservative.
00:26:53.000And as I've mentioned, the judge in this case has made a series of decisions, which I think set up the possibility of a serious appeal, even if Chauvin is convicted.
00:27:01.000Well, the judge yesterday was asked by Nelson for a mistrial on the basis of Waters' comments.
00:27:06.000And the judge said, well, I'm not going to grant a mistrial, but certainly this is an issue for appeal.
00:27:10.000I wish elected officials would stop talking about this case, especially in a manner that is disrespectful to the rule of law and to the judicial branch in our function.
00:27:20.000I think if they want to give their opinions, they should do so in a respectful and in a manner that is consistent with their oath to the constitution to respect a co-equal branch of government.
00:27:32.000Their failure to do so I think is abhorrent, but I don't think it has prejudiced us with additional material that would prejudice history.
00:27:46.000I can't find a single prominent figure on the left who condemned Maxine Waters for this sort of language.
00:27:50.000So the same exact people who said that Donald Trump, who said that people should peacefully Protest what was going on on January 6th at the Capitol building, and then a few hundred droogs decided it would be a wonderful idea to break into the Capitol building and threaten lawmakers.
00:28:03.000The same exact people like Maxine Waters, who suggested that Donald Trump was guilty of incitement of an insurrection, are out there actively defending Maxine Waters today, or at the very least, poo-pooing it.
00:28:13.000So spare me your hysterics about Donald Trump's fraught language.
00:28:33.000I've been told over and over by friends of mine who are Democrats, look at these Republicans and how they have all these people in the Republican Party who are wild and crazy, and they won't condemn anybody.
00:28:42.000And I just think to myself, well, pretty much every time Trump said something that I thought was bad, I condemned him publicly.
00:28:48.000And many other people condemned him publicly, too.
00:28:50.000When there were candidates who were so thorough-going bad that I thought they should not be in Congress, I helped run them out of Congress, like Steve King in Iowa.
00:29:07.000Can you find anybody to go on record about it?
00:29:10.000Whenever somebody on the Democratic side of the aisle is incredibly radical or foments violence, even if you're somebody who participates in rioting and looting, I mean, first of all, Kamala Harris will contribute to your bailout fund in Minnesota.
00:29:22.000If you are a radical inside the Democratic Party circles, the vision of you is not the way it is in the Republican circles.
00:29:28.000If you're in Republican circles and somebody is radical and crazy and spouting conspiracy theories, there's a general sense of embarrassment.
00:29:36.000If you're in Democratic circles and you're Bernie Sanders, you're a wild-eyed socialist, or if you're AOC, you've never had a good idea in your entire life, but you're very, very loud.
00:29:44.000If you are a Democrat like Maxine Waters, who's fomented violence, Then the entire Democratic Party will rally to your cause and declare that the real problem with you is not that you have bad ideas.
00:29:56.000The real problem with you is that you just have the pure naivete of a small innocent child.
00:30:00.000That's really the reason you're such a bad person is because you're actually super innocent and you don't understand that this isn't how politics works.
00:30:06.000You gotta let the adults work it out, sweetheart.
00:30:07.000But the reality is that you are just so innocent and so pure.
00:30:14.000And that's the way the Democratic Party treats their own radicals inside the House.
00:30:18.000So, Kevin McCarthy, the House Minority Leader, he slammed Waters.
00:30:23.000He says, Waters sees value in violence, which obviously is true.
00:30:26.000Here is the House Minority Leader, and then we'll get to the Democratic and media reaction, which is to pretend that Maxine Waters actually didn't say what she just said and you watched her say.
00:30:33.000Maxine Waters believes there's value in violence.
00:30:36.000This is the first time she's done something like this.
00:30:39.000Remember what she said for, in the past administration, for people to get in their faces, to challenge everyone.
00:30:46.000And now what she has said has even put doubt into a jury.
00:30:50.000You had a judge announce that it was wrong.
00:30:53.000I think this takes action, especially when she has a pattern of this behavior.
00:31:04.000Remember, this is the same Nancy Pelosi who watered down a resolution to condemn Ilhan Omar's antisemitism into a resolution condemning all the bad things, and then took a trip with Ilhan Omar to demonstrate solidarity.
00:31:14.000Now, she was asked if Waters should apologize.
00:31:19.000Because how would they get more confrontational?
00:31:20.000in the manner of the civil rights movement. Oh really? Is that what she meant? Because how would they get more confrontational? How? I mean, seems like BLM did $2 billion of damage across the course of the last summer.
00:31:56.000He's asked about Joe Biden's view on Maxine Waters' comments.
00:31:58.000And here's Jen Psaki completely dodging the question.
00:32:01.000Does the president agree with what she said about getting more confrontational?
00:32:06.000Well, I can speak to the president, too.
00:32:08.000He has been very clear that he recognizes the issue of police violence against people of color, communities of color, is one of great anguish.
00:32:17.000And it's exhausting and quite emotional at times.
00:32:22.000As you know, he met with the Floyd family last year and has been closely following the trial, as we've been talking about, and is committed to undoing this longstanding systemic problem.
00:32:31.000Okay, so, um, if you recall, the original question was, what do you think of Maxine Waters' comments?
00:32:36.000Not, can you quote Jonathan Capehart's bad column in the Washington Post about exhaustion and meeting with George Floyd's family and a bunch of read-out talking points.
00:32:44.000All he had to say was, Maxine Waters shouldn't have said that.
00:32:53.000She can't say that, because the Democratic Party is very much in favor of this inside-outside game, whereby you get people in the streets actively participating in rioting and looting and anti-police activity.
00:33:02.000By the way, I know it's not a national story, because again, national stories are just stories that back the media's establishment narrative.
00:33:09.000Hey, I know it's not a national story, but somebody did ambush a Minneapolis National Guard person the other day.
00:33:13.000But that's not a national story, guys.
00:33:21.000Doesn't mean that she's responsible for that.
00:33:22.000It does mean that she's not helping, for sure.
00:33:25.000But don't worry, the media are there to defend Maxine Waters.
00:33:28.000Remember, Donald Trump is solely and completely responsible for the acts of January 6th.
00:33:31.000But Maxine Waters, who's been actively fomenting violence since the moment she set foot in Congress, She's never responsible for anything that comes out of her mouth.
00:33:39.000In fact, the stuff you heard her say, she didn't actually say.
00:33:41.000Here's Don Lemon saying she wasn't inciting violence.
00:33:43.000I take this at face value because Don Lemon is an objective news source.
00:33:47.000Do you really think Maxine Waters is calling for violence?
00:33:52.000Maxine Waters is not calling for violence.
00:33:56.000She makes a lot of people uncomfortable, especially a lot of men, and quite frankly, especially a lot of white men, because she puts them in her place.
00:34:32.000Now, do I think that was super constructive?
00:34:33.000No, but she's unbelievable, and if you don't like her, it's because you're a white man.
00:34:37.000That's the only reason that you wouldn't like Maxine Waters going to the middle of a trial zone and standing like next to the courthouse, basically, and saying, if they don't give you what you want, then you should get super confrontational, like more confrontational than you've been in the past, in a city that nearly burned down a year ago.
00:35:24.000Has it gotten better in terms of race relations in the country with all of these posturing white left wingers in suburban areas kneeling on tape in front of black people?
00:35:34.000Has that made race relations in America significantly better?
00:35:37.000Can you feel America getting healthier?
00:35:40.000Do you think that black people are more optimistic about race relations or less?
00:35:45.000Is a single thing better than it was in terms of race relations in the United States than it was in say 2009 when Barack Obama first took office?
00:35:52.000The answer by every available metric is no.
00:35:55.000The answer by every available metric is no.
00:35:59.000They're pushing it because no matter the casualty list on the other side, no matter the damage done, all that matters is the utopia they see in their addled brains.
00:36:20.000The same people who say Marjorie Taylor Greene is the biggest issue inside the Republican caucus.
00:36:23.000This backbencher from Georgia who created a caucus for Anglo-Saxon cultural defense that had no members.
00:36:31.000But that was the biggest issue in America.
00:36:33.000You've got an active congresswoman who's been promoting rioting and violence literally her entire career, doing it again the other day in the middle of a trial, so bad that the judge, again, a person who staffed with Amy Klobuchar, The judge said this could be a mistrial issue.
00:36:49.000And the Democrats are like, no, she's wonderful.
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00:38:01.000Alright, we can get to more in just one second.
00:38:03.000First, it's almost time for another new episode of Candace.
00:38:07.000This week's special guest is the awesome Dana White, president of the Ultimate Fighting Championship, UFC, the largest mixed martial arts organization on planet Earth.
00:38:46.000Yamiche Alcindor, who's not a journalist, she's an activist for PBS, she tweeted out, don't worry, Maxine Waters didn't threaten violence.
00:38:53.000Eric Nelson is now using Representative Maxine Waters, saying that protesters should, quote, get more active and more confrontational if Derek Chauvin isn't convicted as a reason for a mistrial to be declared.
00:39:01.000He's claiming she threatened violence.
00:39:29.000There's an expectation that any time there is a An incident between a white police officer and a person of color that is caught on tape, no matter the surrounding circumstances, no matter whether the suspect is guilty of the crime or not, no matter whether the suspect resisted arrest, that it will result in riots and looting.
00:39:46.000There's a full-scale 100% expectation.
00:39:48.000Sometimes, on rare occasions, maybe the expectation is disappointed, but rarely.
00:39:54.000This means that we have now ingrained bigotry with regard to a certain percentage of the population that we believe is now justified in whatever they do without data, without even evidence in particular cases.
00:40:20.000Due to one incident, presumably he's talking about the Daunte Wright incident, in which a suspect attempted to flee the police, there was an active warrant out for him, and then the police officer, quite obviously, made a horrible mistake and now will be tried for manslaughter.
00:40:34.000And now it's not safe for any black person to drive anywhere in Minneapolis, according to the Brooklyn Center Mayor.
00:40:38.000You only say this kind of crap because you're interested in the political gain.
00:40:40.000Here's the Brooklyn Center Mayor saying it.
00:40:43.000This is something that People in my community have been grappling with for a very long time.
00:40:50.000It's not safe to drive in Minnesota while you're black.
00:40:54.000I mean, the fact of the matter is, there's so many of us who drive, you know, and if we see police behind us, we're afraid, you know, we're trembling, and that is a kind of terror that No citizen of the United States should ever have to face.
00:41:13.000Okay, anytime you want to talk about the terror faced by citizens who are having to face down rioting and looting that have been plaguing your city, you can do that too.
00:41:19.000Or you could talk about the terror that faces ordinary black Americans in most of America's major cities because the police are just not in those parts of town.
00:41:27.000Because your chances as a black American of getting shot by somebody who's not a police officer are way higher than your chances of being shot unarmed by a police officer.
00:41:35.000I mean, by several orders of magnitude.
00:41:38.000Hey, Minneapolis's mayor, who's a joke, right?
00:41:40.000This doofus, you'll remember him from such wonderful tape as, I'm going to go down to the George Floyd rally and get shouted at for being a white racist, even though I'm trying to just demonstrate my fealty to your overblown cause.
00:41:55.000I mean, this guy's a tool bag of extraordinary proportions.
00:41:58.000Here's Minneapolis's mayor saying that Floyd, no matter what the jury finds, Floyd is killed at the hands of the police.
00:42:02.000And then you say you're not justifying rioting.
00:42:04.000You're literally saying that the system is stacked against the prosecution of a murderer because of race.
00:42:08.000But don't riot guys, the system's gonna work on your behalf.
00:42:12.000The sheer moral cowardice of this is pretty hard to exaggerate here.
00:42:18.000Regardless of the outcome of this trial, regardless of the decision made by the jury, there is one true reality, which is that George Floyd was killed at the hands of police.
00:42:42.000How can you say that the jury has not been prejudiced by the fact that the mayor of the city is saying that the cops killed George Floyd?
00:42:50.000Maxine Waters is outside saying you need to get more confrontational with people.
00:42:53.000More than last year when you burned two billion dollars worth of stuff and killed a bunch of people.
00:42:57.000You need to get more confrontational than that if you don't get what you want.
00:43:00.000How in the world was this trial taking place in Minneapolis in the first place?
00:43:03.000Again, I'm not even saying that you couldn't make the case that Chauvin should be convicted on manslaughter.
00:43:08.000I think that one is a 50-50 coin flip.
00:43:10.000But I do think that there is no possible way to read this as anything other than grounds for mistrial when you have the mayor of the damned city is out there saying that no matter what the jury finds, they are wrong if they don't find like I say.
00:43:52.000There's only one thing that can justify this sort of behavior, and that is, in pursuit of utopia, everybody for the left is either a tool or an obstacle.
00:44:00.000Derek Chauvin is a tool and an obstacle for these people.
00:44:03.000Due process is an obstacle for these folks.
00:44:06.000Individual rights are an obstacle, and Maxine Waters is a tool.
00:44:09.000Therefore, Maxine Waters will be defended, and due process will be thrown out the window, and you're just supposed to eat it.