The Ben Shapiro Show - May 01, 2018


Revenge Of The Mossad | Ep. 529


Episode Stats

Length

53 minutes

Words per Minute

204.67516

Word Count

10,974

Sentence Count

665

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

20


Summary

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00:00:00.000 Israel breaks stunning intelligence information about the Iran deal.
00:00:03.000 The New York Times talks up Karl Marx on his birthday.
00:00:05.000 And Robert Mueller's questions for Donald Trump leak.
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00:02:12.000 Okay, so the big news yesterday is that Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel, got up and did a 20 minute speech in which he announced that Israel had done something unbelievable.
00:02:22.000 Mossad had somehow gotten a hold of 100,000 physical files from the Iranian government about their nuclear program.
00:02:29.000 That's an amazing thing.
00:02:30.000 Just think of how many boxes of materials that is that you had to deliberately smuggle out of Tehran.
00:02:35.000 How exactly did that happen?
00:02:36.000 It's a pretty incredible thing.
00:02:38.000 But what's in the files is even more stunning.
00:02:40.000 So, number one, the files detail the extent of the Iranian nuclear program prior to the Iran nuclear deal.
00:02:45.000 Iran has always lied about that.
00:02:46.000 They've said they weren't developing nuclear weapons, they just wanted a peaceful nuclear program.
00:02:50.000 The files show that that is, in fact, a lie.
00:02:52.000 Also,
00:02:53.000 The fact that these files had been smuggled to a secret location demonstrates something else, which is that Iran had no intention of dismantling its nuclear program, as Barack Obama seemed to suggest.
00:03:02.000 Instead, they were just taking all of their files, moving them to the back room, continuing on with their secret nuclear program, probably, or at the very least, putting other parts of that nuclear program on hold for the moment while they develop all the technology, all the centrifuges and all of the ballistic missile technology.
00:03:17.000 And then in 10 years, after the deal is signed, so now eight years,
00:03:20.000 Once that happens, they go right back to where they left off.
00:03:22.000 They pick up all their old files.
00:03:23.000 They have all the same people who've been working on this stuff.
00:03:25.000 And boom, in six months, they have a bomb.
00:03:27.000 Right?
00:03:27.000 That is the point of the Iran deal from where the Iranians stand.
00:03:30.000 That's always what people who have opposed the Iran deal have claimed is what the Iranians were attempting to do in the Iran deal.
00:03:36.000 And now it's been pretty well documented.
00:03:38.000 Here's what it looked like yesterday and sounded like when Benjamin Netanyahu spoke in front of the world about the files that they had gotten ahold of from the Iranians.
00:03:46.000 Well, tonight I'm here to tell you one thing.
00:03:49.000 Iran lied.
00:03:52.000 Big time.
00:03:54.000 After signing the nuclear deal in 2015,
00:03:58.000 Iran intensified its efforts to hide its secret nuclear files.
00:04:02.000 And this is one of the big questions.
00:04:03.000 So why exactly did they bother hiding the nuclear files if, in fact, they were intent on dismantling their nuclear program or even on putting it on hold?
00:04:10.000 Why would they smuggle those files to someplace secret?
00:04:13.000 Why would they continue to have a defense program staffed by exactly the same people who are running the nuclear program if they put their nuclear plans on hold?
00:04:20.000 And the answer, of course, is they are lying.
00:04:22.000 And at the very least, they are planning to reinitiate that nuclear program as soon as the deal is up or at the very most,
00:04:27.000 They may be pursuing nuclear plans in secret.
00:04:29.000 Here's Netanyahu talking a little bit about the smuggling of the files.
00:04:34.000 In 2017, Iran moved its nuclear weapons files to a highly secret location in Tehran.
00:04:40.000 This is the Shorabat district in southern Tehran.
00:04:44.000 This is where they kept the atomic archives.
00:04:47.000 Right here.
00:04:49.000 So again, pretty amazing intelligence operation.
00:04:51.000 Now, all of the Obama acolytes are claiming that we already knew all of this stuff, that we knew that Iran was lying about its nuclear weapons for years.
00:04:57.000 That's why we tried to sign the Iran deal in the first place, because we knew that they'd been developing nuclear weapons.
00:05:02.000 Why would we have attempted to sign a deal with people if we thought that they weren't developing nuclear weapons?
00:05:07.000 Okay, fair enough, except for the fact that Iran then lied to the International Atomic Energy Agency when it came time to make the deal.
00:05:13.000 So one of the provisions of the deal is that Iran had to give all the details up of what exactly they'd been doing with their nuclear program in order for the deal to go through.
00:05:21.000 They didn't do that.
00:05:22.000 They lied about what they were doing.
00:05:23.000 They took all those files.
00:05:24.000 They hid them.
00:05:25.000 Because again, they plan on opening those files right back up as soon as this deal is up and then developing a nuclear weapon within six months.
00:05:31.000 That is their big plan here.
00:05:33.000 The fact that all of the Obama friends are out there defending Iran today and suggesting that Iran is honest and that Bibi Netanyahu is a liar tells you pretty much what you need to know about the Obama folks.
00:05:41.000 Remember,
00:05:42.000 That Iran deal, which is an awful, awful deal, does not include ballistic weapons technology, so it means that the Iranians can continue to develop long-range intercontinental ballistic missiles without violating the terms of the Iran deal.
00:05:53.000 It does not cover the use of money given by the West back to Iran for purposes of terrorism, and so Iran has funneled an enormous sum of cash to Bashar Assad in Syria and Hezbollah in Lebanon.
00:06:03.000 The Iran deal did not cover any of that.
00:06:05.000 Obama and Kerry openly admitted that we, the United States, are currently funding Iranian terror projects, that that is something that is currently happening.
00:06:12.000 And yet we are told that that Iran deal is so important that we have to maintain it.
00:06:16.000 We're told it's really deeply important for us to maintain the Iran deal.
00:06:19.000 In a second, I'm going to make the case for those on the right who say we shouldn't maintain the Iran deal versus those who say we should just scrap the thing.
00:06:25.000 But it is important to note the other place in which the Obama administration lied.
00:06:29.000 They lied openly, openly about the supposed moderation of the Iranian regime.
00:06:33.000 So the story that was sold by Ben Rhodes, who is a fiction writer, who somehow ended up as national security advisor under Barack Obama.
00:06:39.000 It's amazing.
00:06:40.000 All these people who say that Trump surrounds himself with unqualified people.
00:06:44.000 There's no way in the world that Jared Kushner is less qualified than Ben Rhodes because it's impossible for anyone to be less qualified than Ben Rhodes.
00:06:50.000 Ben Rhodes went from writing bad short stories that were unpublished in his Brooklyn apartment to being National Security Advisor because Barack Obama was friends with him.
00:06:58.000 And then Ben Rhodes constructed an entire narrative sold by Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic, who is a garbage human being and a terrible reporter, the same guy who fired Kevin Williamson.
00:07:08.000 Jeffrey Goldberg is the guy who
00:07:11.000 We're good to go.
00:07:30.000 By reaching out to them, then very soon Iran would moderate.
00:07:33.000 Obviously, that has not happened.
00:07:34.000 Instead, the mullahs have been re-enshrined in power and strengthened in their power by the Iran deal.
00:07:38.000 They have millions of dollars flowing in they never would have seen before.
00:07:40.000 I mean, we shipped literally pallets of cash.
00:07:42.000 What was it?
00:07:43.000 $150 billion?
00:07:43.000 Something like that?
00:07:44.000 We shipped pallets of cash to the Iranians.
00:07:47.000 First of all, the reason we ship pallets of cash as opposed to just wiring the money is because then it's untraceable.
00:07:52.000 The Iranians know that.
00:07:53.000 We knew that.
00:07:54.000 The Obama administration lied about the Iran deal and they did it routinely.
00:07:57.000 So, the question is why is Bibi doing this now?
00:07:58.000 The answer is that Bibi is doing this now.
00:08:00.000 The Israeli Prime Minister is revealing these documents right now because Netanyahu is attempting to make the case for scrapping the Iran deal two weeks
00:08:07.000 Before the Trump administration has to decide whether or not to recertify the Iran deal.
00:08:11.000 And the Israelis have been coordinating with the Americans all throughout this process.
00:08:15.000 It turns out that Netanyahu told Trump about all of these documents two months ago, and shockingly, Trump actually kept his mouth shut about them, which is pretty amazing in and of itself.
00:08:24.000 The Israeli ambassador says that the U.S.
00:08:26.000 has shared the documents with the United States, and in fact, the U.S.
00:08:29.000 has authenticated them.
00:08:31.000 I can guarantee you that if people had that information in 2015, this deal would have never happened at the time because it shows there's hard evidence there that Iran has a military nuclear program and that it falsified all their reports to the IAEA, the International Atomic Energy Agency.
00:08:48.000 What Netanyahu did today, he did not present simply a smoking gun, he presented a smoking bomb.
00:08:55.000 Okay, and there's something else that's happening in the Middle East, too, and you have to be reading all of the tea leaves to see what's really happening here.
00:09:00.000 There is a Sunni alliance that is forming against the rise of Shia Iran.
00:09:04.000 That is exactly what is happening here.
00:09:05.000 Now, does this mean that the United States is going to go to war with Iran?
00:09:08.000 No, it doesn't mean the United States is going to go to war with Iran.
00:09:10.000 I don't think that President Trump is interested in using American military might in order to topple the Iranian regime.
00:09:15.000 Nor am I certain that he should.
00:09:17.000 In fact, I think there's a pretty good case that the United States should not be involved in using military force in order to topple the Iranian regime, if there's any way to avoid it.
00:09:24.000 That's why I think that Trump is taking a step back, and he's basically saying, let's weaken the Iranian regime, and then if Israel has to do what Israel has to do, then they have to do what they have to do.
00:09:31.000 And they've obviously been working hand-in-glove with the Saudis.
00:09:33.000 How do we know that?
00:09:34.000 Because the Saudis came out in the last two days, and Mohammed bin Sultan, who is the new prince over there,
00:09:39.000 Yeah, the new king.
00:09:40.000 He said something incredible.
00:09:42.000 He came forward and he said that the Palestinians basically ought to take whatever the Trump administration offers them in a deal with Israel or sit down and shut up.
00:09:50.000 And the reason that they're saying this is because the Trump administration has said to everyone in the region, look, you want to stop Iran, you're going to have to get on the same page.
00:09:57.000 Hey, you have to stop using the Palestinians as a baton to wield against the Israelis.
00:10:00.000 You have to stop supporting Hamas.
00:10:02.000 You have to stop supporting the Palestinian Authority and Islamic Jihad.
00:10:04.000 You have to stop all of that.
00:10:05.000 And instead, you need to understand that you guys face a common enemy.
00:10:08.000 And the Saudis understand that.
00:10:10.000 The Israelis obviously understand it, too.
00:10:11.000 So what we have now is a working alliance between Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Israel against Iran.
00:10:17.000 And that alliance has been formulated with the end of the Iran deal in mind.
00:10:20.000 I'd be very surprised at this point if the Trump administration does not, in fact, tip over the Iran deal in a couple of weeks.
00:10:25.000 Now, the case against tipping over the Iran deal is that Iran is, quote unquote, abiding by the agreement, which means that they are not actively developing their nuclear program for the moment.
00:10:34.000 And the question is really timing.
00:10:36.000 Right?
00:10:36.000 Is everybody ready for what comes next if the Iran deal ends?
00:10:39.000 So if the Iran deal ends, presumably the United States reimposes sanctions on Iran.
00:10:43.000 The Europeans do not.
00:10:44.000 There's a bit of a foreign policy snafu there because Obama has, of course, put the onus on the West, not on the Iranians, to prove that Iran is lying, which is, I think, kind of ridiculous because Iran has been lying continuously about this stuff for decades.
00:10:57.000 And so the question becomes, OK, what happens after that?
00:11:00.000 And the answer is that once the sanctions are reinforced, once the Iran deal is off the table, the real purpose of that is to allow Israel to work with Saudi Arabia to strike at Iran's nuclear facilities.
00:11:10.000 And that's really what this is about.
00:11:12.000 So, will that conflagrate into a larger war?
00:11:15.000 I don't think so.
00:11:16.000 I think the chances of that spiraling out of control with the Iranians attacking the United States, for example, they'd be fools to do so.
00:11:22.000 And the Russians are not going to jump in against the Israelis and the Saudis because they understand that that would precipitate American military action.
00:11:27.000 So, this would be probably a very contained military response by Israel and by Saudi Arabia,
00:11:32.000 Which should have been pursued years and years and years ago if this Iran deal were to end.
00:11:36.000 If it's not to end, my guess is the only reason for doing that is because they haven't come up with a foolproof military plan at this point.
00:11:42.000 And so the goal here is to kick the can down the road until they actually have something ready to go.
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00:13:34.000 I've said that I think the indicators are pretty good that the White House is going to pull out of the Iran deal.
00:13:39.000 What is the chief indicator?
00:13:40.000 Well, yesterday there was a statement that came out from the press secretary, the office of the press secretary from the White House, and here's what it said.
00:13:46.000 The United States is aware of the information just released by Israel and continues to examine it carefully.
00:13:51.000 This information provides new and compelling details about Iran's efforts to develop missile-deliverable nuclear weapons.
00:13:56.000 These facts are consistent with what the United States has long known.
00:13:58.000 Iran has a robust clandestine nuclear weapons program that it has tried and failed to hide from the world and from its own people.
00:14:04.000 Okay, so there are a bunch of reporters who pointed out this is a pretty stunning statement, right?
00:14:08.000 They're not saying that Iran had a robust clandestine nuclear weapons program.
00:14:12.000 They're saying that it has an active weapons program, which would obviously be a violation of the deal and mean that we have to pull out of the deal immediately.
00:14:18.000 Well,
00:14:19.000 The White House came out afterward and they changed the language.
00:14:22.000 They changed to Iran had a robust clandestine nuclear weapons program.
00:14:27.000 The White House said it was a clerical error, but there's very little question as to where the White House's head is at.
00:14:35.000 Right?
00:14:35.000 The White House believes that the nuclear deal is bad.
00:14:37.000 Barack Obama knew it was bad, but did it anyway, and lies to the American people about it.
00:14:41.000 Trump has been saying for years that the Iran deal is a disaster, and President Trump is right.
00:14:47.000 Now, as I say, none of this means the United States has to go to war.
00:14:50.000 The United States can do a lot of things short of going to war.
00:14:52.000 We can reimpose sanctions.
00:14:53.000 We can help facilitate the use of Saudi airspace by the Israelis.
00:14:57.000 We can ensure that Israel is defended in case of retaliatory strike.
00:15:01.000 But that doesn't mean that we have to go to active war with the Iranians.
00:15:03.000 We can support revolutionary movements within Iran in a stronger possible fashion if we have the sanctions reinforced.
00:15:09.000 It's very difficult to support people trying to topple a regime when you have a deal with the regime.
00:15:13.000 That's why I've always found the Obama line that it was either his deal or war to be so foolish and such a lie.
00:15:19.000 He's not the only one saying it, of course.
00:15:20.000 Pat Buchanan, who really despises Israel, he's been saying the same thing here as Buchanan making that case.
00:15:26.000 So you didn't watch Bibi Netanyahu's evidence and believe it today?
00:15:29.000 Because I believed every word of it.
00:15:31.000 I believed it.
00:15:31.000 Bibi Netanyahu, with due respect, wants the United States to fight a war against Iran.
00:15:36.000 Nobody's talking about fighting a war.
00:15:38.000 I don't want another war either.
00:15:59.000 I'm torn about whether the United States should go to war in Iraq in the first place.
00:16:03.000 That was a George W. Bush initiative.
00:16:05.000 I think it was the right initiative at the time, based on the evidence that he had in front of him.
00:16:09.000 But, yeah, again, this sort of Papu-Canaanite, this is a war on behalf of the Jews routine, I don't think that's right, especially because as Iranian influence goes in the region, that threatens a lot of American interests aside from Israel, including Saudi Arabia, including the fate of Europe, including American troops that are stationed around the world.
00:16:24.000 Iran developing this sort of technology is extraordinarily dangerous, especially considering that Iran has such
00:16:29.000 Okay.
00:16:29.000 Now, meanwhile, in other news, I just have to comment on Maxine Waters.
00:16:31.000 So, Maxine Waters came out yesterday, and she was talking about Kanye West.
00:16:46.000 I'm growing tired of talking about Kanye West.
00:16:48.000 I think that Kanye West did something great, and over the past few days he's been tweeting out quotes from Thomas Sowell, and all of that's really good.
00:16:54.000 Do I think Kanye is a political expert?
00:16:56.000 No, I don't think he's a political expert, but again, kudos to Kanye for attempting to have conversations about politics in a fashion that doesn't fit directly into the jigsaw puzzle that the Democrats have built for him.
00:17:08.000 He's been saying that, you know, you should think for yourself on politics.
00:17:10.000 He's been saying that we don't have to be stuck on a particular political plantation.
00:17:14.000 Honestly, good for him for saying all of that.
00:17:16.000 Well, Maxine Waters has had enough.
00:17:18.000 The representative from California who is one of the more doltish members of Congress.
00:17:21.000 I mean, she's really a stupid human being.
00:17:24.000 Maxine Waters tore into Kanye West and here's what she said.
00:17:26.000 She said, quote, Kanye West is a very creative young man, but we also think that sometimes West talks out of turn and perhaps he needs some assistance in helping him to formulate some of his thoughts.
00:17:36.000 You see, Kanye West needs Maxine Waters to guide him because he's too stupid.
00:17:39.000 We don't think that he actually means to do harm, but we're not sure he really understands the impact of what he's saying at the time that he's saying it and how that weighs on particularly African American community and for young people in general.
00:17:49.000 And then she continued, quote, I understand that he is getting pushback from a lot of young people on the Internet, but we're hopeful that his creativity will continue to be demonstrated in his work.
00:17:57.000 And I think maybe he should think twice about politics and maybe not have so much to say.
00:18:02.000 So, this is pretty amazing because she's essentially telling Kanye West to shut up and sing.
00:18:06.000 That's exactly what that last sentence is.
00:18:08.000 He should think twice about politics and maybe have not so much to say.
00:18:11.000 And he should continue to show his creativity in his work.
00:18:13.000 So, let's get this straight.
00:18:14.000 When Laura Ingraham said to LeBron James, shut up and dribble, that was racist.
00:18:17.000 When Maxine Waters says to Kanye West, shut up and sing, that's just her, what, being great advisor?
00:18:23.000 A great advisor to Kanye West?
00:18:25.000 First of all, for her to claim that anyone is ignorant is insane.
00:18:27.000 Again, Maxine Waters is one of the more corrupt, stupid members of Congress.
00:18:32.000 This is a woman who, while she was sitting on the House Financial Services Committee, was named by Judicial Watch the most corrupt member of Congress, I think, four times because she was attempting to use the House Financial Services Committee, allegedly, to funnel money and make exceptions for her husband's bank, One United Bank.
00:18:46.000 He had a bunch of stock in the bank.
00:18:48.000 As for her stupidity, there's a lady who once said that Vladimir Putin was going to invade Korea, not Crimea.
00:18:54.000 She once said that she was, she said, I was once a millennial.
00:18:58.000 No, she was not.
00:18:59.000 She promoted abortion by saying, I have to march because my mother could not have an abortion.
00:19:03.000 Which is a good reason for you not to march, because if your mom had had an abortion, you wouldn't be there.
00:19:09.000 But again, Maxine Waters, the entire left, a lot of folks on the left, very, very upset with Kanye West for daring to step outside of the typical box that has been built for all of these folks on the left.
00:19:20.000 If you're in Hollywood, this box has been built for you.
00:19:22.000 If you are a black person, this box has been built for you.
00:19:25.000 And so if you step outside the box, then Maxine Waters will clock you.
00:19:29.000 Again, if you step outside any box, the left will clock you.
00:19:31.000 And the resistance to this, I think, is growing exceedingly strong.
00:19:33.000 And there are a lot of people right now who are feeling like, you've been hemming me in.
00:19:36.000 I think, by the way, a lot of Trump's appeal in 2016 was based on the idea that he was breaking out of the box of political correctness.
00:19:42.000 I think a lot of the stuff he said wasn't politically incorrect.
00:19:45.000 I think it was dumb.
00:19:46.000 But the fact that he was willing to say things that were politically incorrect from time to time was one of his chief appeals.
00:19:52.000 And Hillary Clinton
00:19:54.000 Made a huge mistake politically by reinforcing the perception of a lot of Americans that the left wants to build a small box for you to live in and if you go outside the box, then she will call you a deplorable.
00:20:04.000 And Donald Trump said, listen, I hate boxes.
00:20:07.000 Boxes are stupid.
00:20:08.000 The corners hurt.
00:20:08.000 I don't want them.
00:20:09.000 And then he just blew up the box.
00:20:12.000 I think that a lot of people felt the appeal of that and a lot of people are feeling the appeal of that now.
00:20:16.000 Which is great, which is great.
00:20:17.000 I think Kanye West is one of the people feeling the appeal of that.
00:20:20.000 Now, does there still have to be some sort of box for acceptable opinion and unacceptable opinion?
00:20:24.000 I think most people agree that not all opinion is created equal and not all opinion is equally valuable, but I
00:20:31.000 I think that if we're going to err on the side of the size of the box, we have to err on the side of a large box, a box that fits a lot of opinions.
00:20:37.000 And again, a black person saying they want to vote Republican or consider Republican voting is not the end of the world.
00:20:44.000 And it's also worth noting that there's a lot of disinformation being put out by the Democratic left in an attempt to win Kanye West back.
00:20:51.000 Like, they keep putting out the myth that the Republican and Democratic parties switched places on race in the 1960s.
00:20:55.000 That is eminently untrue.
00:20:57.000 It's been disproved by people ranging from Sean Trent of RealClearPolitics to a couple of professors, I believe, at Princeton.
00:21:03.000 The statistics just do not bear this out.
00:21:05.000 But good for Kanye West and bad for Maxine Waters again.
00:21:08.000 Cudgeling people into line seems to be the main priority of so many folks on the left, which is really, really unfortunate these days.
00:21:15.000 Okay, so before I go any further, and I have to talk about the New York Times, which is celebrating Karl Marx's birthday.
00:21:21.000 I am not kidding.
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00:23:09.000 The good news is that while the left may be attempting to box everybody in with identity politics, they are also attempting to revivify the ghost of Karl Marx.
00:23:17.000 So the New York Times has written a bunch of pieces in the last year about why Marxism is awesome.
00:23:22.000 Which is pretty amazing, because then they charge you a pretty high subscription fee to be over at the New York Times.
00:23:26.000 But they've written op-eds in the last year titled, When Communism Inspired Americans, Socialism's Future May Be Its Past, and Why Women Had Better Sex Under Socialism.
00:23:36.000 Which seems wildly untrue, considering that the better sex under socialism of China involves forced abortion, which seems like that might kill the mood a little bit.
00:23:46.000 In any case, there's another piece out yesterday that I just love from a guy named Jason Barker.
00:23:50.000 He's an associate professor of philosophy over at South Korean University.
00:23:56.000 And the piece is called, Happy Birthday Karl Marx, You Were Right.
00:24:00.000 And there's a picture of a giant statue of Karl Marx.
00:24:02.000 And not only was Karl Marx not right, Karl Marx's idiotic philosophy led to the deaths of well over 100 million people during the 20th century alone.
00:24:10.000 So, if that's right, then I don't want to be right anytime soon.
00:24:14.000 But here is what this professor writes.
00:24:16.000 He writes, On May 5, 1818, in the southern German town of Trier, in the picturesque, wine-growing region of the Moselle Valley, Karl Marx was born.
00:24:24.000 At the time, Shur was one-tenth the size it is today, with a population of around 12,000.
00:24:28.000 According to one of Marx's recent biographers, Jürgen Neff, Shur is one of those towns where, although everyone doesn't know everyone, many know a lot about many.
00:24:35.000 Such provincial constraints were no match for Marx's boundless intellectual enthusiasm
00:24:40.000 Rare were the radical thinkers of the major European capitals of his day that he either failed to meet or failed to break with on theoretical grounds.
00:24:47.000 And then he talks about all of his intellectual influences.
00:24:50.000 And he says, in 1837, Marx reneged on the legal career that his father, himself a lawyer, had mapped out for him and immersed himself instead in the speculative philosophy of G.W.F.
00:24:59.000 Hegel at the University of Berlin.
00:25:01.000 If you've never read Hegelian philosophy, don't worry about it.
00:25:03.000 It's incredibly abstruse and difficult to read, but the basic idea of Hegelian philosophy is that God is present in history and that history is essentially a progression from synthesis, from thesis and antithesis to synthesis.
00:25:16.000 In other words, there's one position, the opposite position, they fight with each other and the result is a synthesis of the best of both positions.
00:25:22.000 And therefore history is constantly moving in a progressive direction.
00:25:24.000 That is Hegelianism in two sentences right there.
00:25:27.000 Okay, but what Marx took from that is that history was going to move inevitably away from capitalism and instead toward communism.
00:25:34.000 So here's what Barker writes.
00:25:53.000 And here's what Barker writes, As we reach the bicentennial of Marx's birth, what lessons might we draw from his dangerous and delirious philosophical legacy?
00:26:00.000 What precisely is Marx's lasting contribution?
00:26:03.000 Today, the legacy would appear to be alive and well.
00:26:06.000 If by alive and well you mean the Soviet Union no longer exists after a century of oppression, and that the Chinese have embraced non-Marxist philosophy, and that the last standing vestige of true Marxism on planet Earth is probably in Cuba and North Korea, two gulag states, then sure, everything is going great for Marxism.
00:26:21.000 Oh yeah, and there's Venezuela also, which has just been a boon.
00:26:41.000 I believe he meant that educated liberal opinion is today more or less unanimous in its agreement that Marx's basic thesis that capitalism is driven by a deeply divisive class struggle in which the ruling class minority appropriates the surplus labor of the working class majority as profit is correct.
00:26:56.000 Even liberal economists such as Nouriel Roubini agree that Marx's conviction that capitalism has an inbuilt tendency to destroy itself remains as prescient as ever.
00:27:03.000 Well, okay, a couple of things that are wrong with this.
00:27:04.000 One, Marx's basic theory, which is that rich people exploit poor people for their own profit, is idiotic.
00:27:10.000 Okay, unless you can demonstrate that there is force that is being used.
00:27:13.000 The fact is that capitalism has raised more people out of poverty than anything else in the history of humanity, and it is not close.
00:27:18.000 Okay, in 1980,
00:27:21.000 Twice the number of people as today were living in abject poverty on planet Earth.
00:27:25.000 Today, less than 10% of all people on planet Earth are living in what they call extreme poverty by UN standards.
00:27:30.000 That is solely due to free trade and capitalism.
00:27:33.000 Is it this idea that Marx's thesis is right, that it's all about class warfare?
00:27:37.000 No.
00:27:37.000 If you're an educated person and you've actually studied the issues, you don't believe this.
00:27:40.000 You have to be a fool to believe this.
00:27:41.000 You have to be a college-educated Bernie Sanders spouting idiot to believe this stuff.
00:27:46.000 But here's the part that I love about Barker.
00:27:48.000 So, here's what he talks about.
00:27:49.000 He says,
00:27:51.000 Marx arrives at no magic formula for exiting the enormous social and economic contradictions that global capitalism entails.
00:27:57.000 What Marx did achieve, however, through his self-styled materialist thought, were the critical weapons for undermining capitalism's ideological claims of the only game in town.
00:28:06.000 So, what exactly does he say is the way that capitalism is going to fall, Marx, according to this professor in the New York Times celebrating Marx?
00:28:12.000 Well, Marx was convinced that capitalism would soon make relics of all of these workers, all these various types of workers.
00:28:20.000 The inroads that artificial intelligence is currently making into medical diagnosis and surgery, for instance, bears out the argument in the manifesto that technology would greatly accelerate the division of labor or the de-skilling of such professions.
00:28:31.000 Okay, first of all, here he has picked an incredibly poor example.
00:28:33.000 My wife, as mentioned many times on the show, is a doctor.
00:28:36.000 The fact that she is capable of using medical technology to diagnose has made her a better doctor.
00:28:42.000 It has not declined, it has not reduced the demand for doctors.
00:28:45.000 We still have a shortage of doctors in the United States, largely thanks to the regulatory policies of the federal government.
00:28:52.000 But this is my favorite part.
00:28:53.000 So then he talks about how what we really need here is something new.
00:28:59.000 He says, we need a classless and stateless society.
00:29:03.000 He says, where Hegel had stopped at advocating a rational liberal state, Marx would go one stage further.
00:29:07.000 Since the gods were no longer divine, there was no need for a state at all.
00:29:10.000 So it's not that the state existed in history and that God existed in history.
00:29:14.000 It's there was no need for a state.
00:29:15.000 Instead, we could have a classless, stateless society that would come to define both Marx and Engels' idea of communism and, of course, the subsequent and troubled history of the communist states that materialized during the 20th century.
00:29:26.000 I love this part.
00:29:27.000 He says, There is still a great deal to be learned from their disasters, but their philosophical relevance remains doubtful, to say the least.
00:29:32.000 So, just to get this straight, according to this particular professor of philosophy at a South Korean university writing in the New York Times, The history of Marxism can be completely separated off from the history of the USSR, China, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, and every other state that has attempted state-sponsored communism.
00:29:49.000 None of that has any philosophical relevance.
00:29:51.000 They're sort of historical curiosities.
00:29:53.000 Weird that they all thought they were interpreting Marx too.
00:29:55.000 But apparently this guy is the only guy who understands Marx.
00:29:58.000 This is the best part, right?
00:29:59.000 So here he talks about where Marxism really exists.
00:30:01.000 And this is actually important.
00:30:02.000 Here's the part that's important.
00:30:03.000 Not just that the New York Times is celebrating Marx.
00:30:06.000 This part.
00:30:07.000 I'm about to read to you is important because you need to understand that what he says here is true.
00:30:11.000 The Marxist roots of identity politics are very clear and they are very disturbing.
00:30:15.000 He, of course, thinks it's great.
00:30:16.000 He says, the key factor in Marx's intellectual legacy in our present-day society is not philosophy, but critique, or what he described in 1843 as, quote, the ruthless criticism of all that exists.
00:30:27.000 Ruthless both in the sense of not being afraid of the results it arrives at,
00:30:30.000 And in the sense of being just as little afraid of the conflict with the powers that be.
00:30:33.000 Here's the paragraph that matters.
00:30:45.000 Social justice movements like Black Lives Matter and Me Too owe something of an unspoken debt to Marx through their unapologetic targeting of the eternal truths of our age.
00:30:53.000 Such movements recognize, as did Marx, that the ideas that rule every society are those of its ruling class, and that overturning those ideas is fundamental to true revolutionary progress.
00:31:03.000 We have become used to the go-getting mantra that to effect social change we first have to change ourselves, but enlightened or rational thinking is not enough.
00:31:10.000 Since the norms of thinking are already skewed by the structures of male privilege and social hierarchy, even down to the language we use.
00:31:16.000 Changing those norms entails changing the very foundations of society.
00:31:19.000 So in just a second, I'm going to explain what I just said there.
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00:32:56.000 So, back to this piece from the New York Times.
00:32:59.000 What is admitted in this piece upholding Marxism is something really stunning.
00:33:02.000 What he basically is saying is that when you look at all these ethnic solidarity movements, or the female solidarity movement, or any of these identity politics movements, these are newfangled attempts to use Marxist critiques to bring down society.
00:33:15.000 This is true.
00:33:16.000 If you go back to the 1960s and you look at the work of a lot of members of the Frankfurt School, people like Herbert Marcuse,
00:33:21.000 And if you read them, what they are saying is that the new stand-ins for the lower classes that are going to rise up, the proletariat, who are going to rise up and take over the system, instead of doing it by class, he says, we're going to separate you by racial group.
00:33:34.000 We're going to say that you black people have been victimized by American society, and you gay people have been victimized by American society, and you Hispanic people, and you Jewish people, and you women, and you transgenders, you've all been hurt by American society, now rise up and tear down your oppressor.
00:33:48.000 The new Marxist revolution is happening, but it's not happening on the basis of class.
00:33:51.000 It's happening on the basis of identity.
00:33:53.000 And Marxists know that.
00:33:55.000 Now their whole goal here is to tear down the system.
00:33:57.000 And what they say is that once we have a classless society, all this will go away.
00:34:01.000 And this is why when you hear Bernie Sanders talk, it's really kind of ironic and hilarious.
00:34:06.000 When Bernie Sanders talks, he's talking the language of Marxism.
00:34:09.000 On behalf of
00:34:25.000 Is when there's a socialist utopia.
00:34:26.000 When we have a socialist utopia in which income is redistributed and in which people at the top are stamped on and people at the bottom are uplifted, then there will be no more racism, there will be no more sexism, there will be no more homophobia and transphobia.
00:34:38.000 Everyone will get along.
00:34:39.000 Everyone will love his brother.
00:34:40.000 Socialism will be the solution.
00:34:42.000 Well, that was the message that was being put forth by all of the advocates of identity politics who originally started the identity politics advocacy in the 1960s and 70s.
00:34:52.000 So Bernie is just spouting what he knows from his 1960s commune time.
00:34:57.000 But the identity politics advocates, they say, well, Bernie is not paying enough attention to us.
00:35:02.000 The Marxists aren't paying enough attention to us.
00:35:04.000 They don't understand.
00:35:05.000 Even if we tear down the current capitalist system and we put in its place a socialist system, that's not enough.
00:35:10.000 Identity politics, tribalism actually overcomes Marxism in their rubric.
00:35:16.000 And so what you're seeing right now, and it's fascinating to watch, is an ongoing fight between the identity politics wing of the Democratic Party and the Marxist wing of the Democratic Party.
00:35:23.000 And they're going to war with each other, even though the Marxist wing created the identity politics wing.
00:35:28.000 It's really quite fascinating.
00:35:30.000 But it is important to note that the goal of all of this, the common cause, is to tear down the capitalist system, to tear down the social hierarchies, the supposed social hierarchies based on race, not on merit.
00:35:40.000 None of that is true.
00:35:41.000 What exists in the United States right now is a meritocracy.
00:35:43.000 What exists in the United States, by and large, without government regulation, is a free and open country where you can fall or rise on your own merit.
00:35:51.000 That's a very good thing.
00:35:52.000 But Marxists believe that all of that has to fall, and they are using identity politics as a tool in tearing down the social order.
00:35:59.000 The final paragraph from Jason Barker over at the New York Times is pretty amazing.
00:36:02.000 He says, First of all, it's hard to say what exactly that's supposed to mean.
00:36:13.000 You know, I do judge all the individuals around me, not based on how much money they make, but whether they are good people.
00:36:18.000 In fact, that's been a religious principle since the beginning of religion.
00:36:21.000 You're supposed to judge people not on the amount of money that they make.
00:36:23.000 You're not supposed to judge their worth by their income, but by how they are as human beings.
00:36:28.000 But Marxism says that we can somehow quantify that in such a way that we can pay people in accordance with their virtue, which is really weird and I think untrue.
00:36:37.000 But Barker concludes, Marx, as I have said, does not offer a one-size-fits-all formula for enacting social change, but he does offer a powerful intellectual acid test for that change.
00:36:46.000 On that basis, we are destined to keep citing him and testing his ideas until the kind of society that he struggled to bring about and that increasing numbers of us now desire is finally realized.
00:36:53.000 So we're just going to keep repeating Marx's routine until Marx's dream is realized.
00:36:58.000 Marx's dream was realized, and it was a dystopian nightmare.
00:37:01.000 But the New York Times and leftists all over the world refused to recognize that, because that is their last best hope.
00:37:06.000 They tried bureaucratic centralization and top-down running things.
00:37:14.000 That didn't work in the early 20th century.
00:37:16.000 They tried fascism.
00:37:17.000 Fascism was a left-wing movement.
00:37:19.000 Mussolini began by studying Marx.
00:37:22.000 Hitler, too, began by being entranced with some of the ideas of Marx and Hegel.
00:37:27.000 All of these things were left-wing movements.
00:37:28.000 By European standards, they became right-wing movements because they became counter-communist.
00:37:32.000 But that does not mean that by American standards, these were right-wing movements.
00:37:35.000 OK, fascism, Italian fascism, if placed in the United States, would have been much closer to FDR than it would have been close to Wendell Willkie.
00:37:41.000 And the same thing is true of Hitler's politics.
00:37:43.000 But the fact is that the left is never going to let go of the Marxist dream because the left looks at human beings and they say, human beings suck.
00:37:50.000 The only way to transform them is by transforming the system.
00:37:53.000 Religion looks at human beings and says, human beings suck.
00:37:55.000 The only way to transform human beings is for human beings to transform themselves and to become better human beings.
00:38:01.000 It's not about the system.
00:38:01.000 It's about you.
00:38:03.000 One of those philosophies leads to better human beings.
00:38:05.000 The other philosophy leads to horrible societies.
00:38:08.000 Horrible societies, as a general rule.
00:38:10.000 OK, so in just one second, I want to talk about some big breaking news.
00:38:14.000 And that, of course, is chaos in the Mueller investigation as some of Mueller's questions are leaked.
00:38:20.000 Before I get to the Mueller questions, though, I just have to note one quick thing that's pretty amazing.
00:38:24.000 So, you know, I live in Los Angeles.
00:38:26.000 I've spent a lot of time, my entire life basically, in left wing areas, Los Angeles, Cambridge, Massachusetts.
00:38:31.000 And that means that I know a lot of folks on the left and a lot of folks on the left
00:38:35.000 I don't know.
00:38:57.000 I'm not so interested.
00:38:59.000 The latest case in point here is white residents of New York City's Upper West Side complaining about the idea that they're going to have to take in a bunch of low-income minority people into their schools.
00:39:09.000 So the College Fix is reporting that Raw Story, which is not a right-leaning news organization, caught this meeting on tape.
00:39:15.000 There's a meeting of residents in New York's Upper West Side, a meeting of the local school district.
00:39:20.000 And progressive parents find out that their schools will soon have to reflect the demographics of New York as a whole, and the schools in the area are currently predominantly white, and they get really mad.
00:39:28.000 Watch as these white parents become very upset about the idea of having to allow low-income minority children into their schools.
00:39:35.000 An emotional meeting on the Upper West Side.
00:39:37.000 Parents objecting to a proposal to require each of the 17 local middle schools to reserve a quarter of their seats for students scoring below grade level on state English and math exams.
00:39:48.000 Some parents warning that high-performing students would be shut out of the most desirable schools.
00:39:54.000 You're talking about telling an 11-year-old you worked your butt off and you didn't get that, what you needed or wanted.
00:40:01.000 You're telling them you're going to go to a school that's not going to educate you in the same way you've been educated.
00:40:07.000 Life sucks!
00:40:09.000 Is that what the DOE wants to say?
00:40:11.000 Okay, so I love that all of these people who presumably voted for Bill de Blasio and love the idea of forced busing so long as it's not in their neighborhood, as soon as it comes into their neighborhood, then it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:40:22.000 These are the same people who say that everyone down south is racist, but on the Upper West Side of New York, they're saying, we don't want those low-income black kids in our school because it's going to ruin our school.
00:40:30.000 This is, by the way, is why I believe that public education in general is a serious problem that has to be rectified by local answers.
00:40:37.000 It can't be rectified by government at a broader level.
00:40:40.000 Because all that's going to happen, by the way, here's what's really going to happen, is that there will be demographic changes in these schools.
00:40:45.000 The parents will just pull their kids out and put them in private school.
00:40:47.000 That's exactly what's going to happen because that's what's been happening in the United States for years and years and years and years, beyond which I'm not sure that the schools are generally the problem.
00:40:55.000 I think that very often the circumstances in which people grow up are much more defining as to whether you're going to be a success later in life than the school to which you went as an elementary school student.
00:41:03.000 I think one of the great myths
00:41:04.000 I just don't think that's right.
00:41:35.000 I'm not sure the people on the Upper West Side who say that I'd be horrible for saying that are allowed to say that.
00:41:39.000 All the people on the Upper West Side who are listening to this, if you think that it's horrible and racist to suggest that maybe I should be able to put my kid where I want to put my kid in school, and that kids should have school vouchers so they can go where they want to school,
00:41:53.000 If you think that that is racist and awful, let me just suggest that if you go to your local school meeting and rant and rave about a bunch of black kids coming to your school because you think it's going to lower the educational credentials of your school, maybe you ought to take a look in the mirror.
00:42:03.000 Maybe you ought to take a look in the mirror.
00:42:05.000 I'm not suggesting those black kids can't come to your school.
00:42:08.000 At all.
00:42:08.000 In fact, I think they should be able to pay to come to the school with vouchers.
00:42:11.000 I'm suggesting that there are these gated communities that exist with public tax dollars that are a serious problem in a lot of these areas, and that your objection on the left to people going to private school is really an objection that you should be applying to yourself, because at least people who go to private school aren't taking advantage of public money to send their kids to gated communities.
00:42:30.000 Okay, so.
00:42:32.000 In just a second, I want to discuss the situation with Robert Mueller.
00:42:36.000 So here's the situation.
00:42:38.000 Here's the latest.
00:42:39.000 Okay, so, on Monday, there's a new report from the New York Times, and it revealed dozens of questions.
00:42:43.000 Special Counsel Robert Mueller wanted to ask President Trump if he agrees to an interview for the Russia Probe.
00:42:47.000 So this is reported by Ryan Saavedra over at Daily Wire.
00:42:51.000 Some of the questions Mueller reportedly wants to ask Trump include, what did you know about phone calls that former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn made with the Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak in December 2016?
00:43:02.000 What did you know about Sally Yates' meetings about Mr. Flynn?
00:43:04.000 How was the decision made to fire Mr. Flynn?
00:43:06.000 What was your opinion of James Comey during the transition?
00:43:09.000 What did you think about Comey's intelligence briefing on January 6, 2017 about Russian election interference?
00:43:15.000 What was the purpose of your calls to Mr. Comey?
00:43:17.000 Why did you decide to fire him?
00:43:19.000 Now, here is the big problem with all of this.
00:43:22.000 There is pretty much not a lot here about supposed connections to Russia.
00:43:26.000 So here's some of the questions being asked about the original Trump-Russia collusion.
00:43:31.000 Remember, this whole investigation was originally about the idea that Vladimir Putin had been working with Donald Trump to steal the election.
00:43:37.000 Here are some of the questions he's going to ask.
00:43:38.000 When did you become aware of the Trump Tower meeting?
00:43:40.000 This is the one between Donald Trump Jr.
00:43:42.000 and a couple of Trump officials and a Russian lawyer.
00:43:45.000 What involvement did you have in the communication strategy, including the release of Donald Trump Jr.'
00:43:49.000 's emails?
00:43:50.000 During the 2013 trip to Russia, what communication and relationships did you have with the Agalarovs and Russian government officials?
00:43:56.000 During the campaign, what did you know about Russian hacking, use of social media, or other acts
00:44:05.000 So, we'll have to see whether this is more aimed at collusion or whether this is more aimed at obstruction.
00:44:11.000 It seems like very little of it is aimed at the collusion, because if they actually had evidence of collusion, then they'd be going after Trump and his people already, I assume.
00:44:18.000 I mean, if they actually had evidence of conspiracy to violate campaign law, then I assume they would already be going after people, so this really goes to intent.
00:44:26.000 I don't know.
00:44:42.000 You know, maybe Rudy Giuliani thinks differently.
00:44:44.000 We will find out.
00:44:45.000 Okay, time for a thing I both like and hate.
00:44:49.000 We'll do a combined thing I like and hate.
00:44:51.000 So, here is the thing that I both like and hate.
00:44:54.000 Avengers Infinity War.
00:44:55.000 So I have many thoughts on Avengers Infinity War.
00:44:58.000 And if you haven't seen the movie yet, now is the time for you to cut short today's podcast and then go back and listen to it a little bit later after you've actually seen the movie if you're one of the five people in America who have not seen the movie yet.
00:45:07.000 Sorry for those in the room who have not yet seen the movie.
00:45:09.000 I'm about to spoil a bunch of crap for you.
00:45:11.000 So Mathis, it's time for you to turn off your earphones and then walk out of the room if you don't want to be spoiled, because I'm about to say a lot of stuff that's about to spoil the movie.
00:45:18.000 OK, so first of all, the movie is well made.
00:45:22.000 It's really well made, considering they have to juggle about 83 different plot lines.
00:45:27.000 And you can see from the poster that it's every person in the world in one movie.
00:45:31.000 The truth is, the real focus of this movie, the real focus of this movie is
00:45:36.000 Iron Man, Thor, and the Guardians of the Galaxy.
00:45:38.000 Those are really the people who you're following during this film.
00:45:41.000 Captain America is not in the film very much at all.
00:45:44.000 Here's a little bit of the preview for one of the five people in America who didn't see the preview.
00:45:46.000 Here's a little bit of what the movie looks like.
00:45:49.000 The entire time I knew him, he only ever had one goal.
00:45:57.000 To wipe out half the universe.
00:46:00.000 If he gets all the Infinity Stones, he can do it with the snap of his fingers.
00:46:05.000 Just like that.
00:46:07.000 Tell me his name again.
00:46:09.000 Thanos.
00:46:13.000 We got one advantage.
00:46:22.000 He's coming to us.
00:46:25.000 We have what Thanos wants.
00:46:27.000 So that's what we use.
00:46:30.000 Okay, so everybody's in the movie, like everyone, including my mother.
00:46:35.000 Like everyone is in this film.
00:46:37.000 But here's my problem with the movie.
00:46:39.000 So I have a couple of problems with the movie.
00:46:41.000 Here's the stuff.
00:46:42.000 First, the stuff I like.
00:46:43.000 The stuff that I like is everything with Chris Pratt and Chris Hemsworth is hysterical.
00:46:47.000 Chris Hemsworth is the best thing in any of the Marvel movies now.
00:46:50.000 He is really, really funny.
00:46:52.000 Everything he does here is very Thor Ragnarok based.
00:46:56.000 There's one scene particularly between Chris Pratt and Chris Hemsworth that is just hysterically funny and really, really good.
00:47:02.000 Chris Pratt is really good in this.
00:47:04.000 It's pretty obvious who the stars are.
00:47:08.000 Beyond that, Thanos, as a character, is a good character.
00:47:11.000 Josh Brolin turns in a really solid performance as Thanos.
00:47:13.000 You don't notice the CGI at all, and his entire character is CGI'd, so that's a pretty cool thing.
00:47:19.000 There are a couple problems with Thanos' character.
00:47:21.000 Problem number one is that his motivation is insufficiently spelled out.
00:47:25.000 They say that he had a home planet.
00:47:27.000 His home planet was basically overpopulated and the entire planet died in poverty.
00:47:31.000 He had said, let's randomly kill half the planet and then we can fix and then we can prevent a shortage on Thanos' home planet.
00:47:39.000 That's Malthusian nonsense.
00:47:41.000 So first of all, somebody should have explained to him that perhaps with additional creativity of humanoid creatures comes additional propensity to create
00:47:48.000 Awesome resources.
00:47:49.000 So back in the 1960s, Paul Ehrlich predicted that by the year 1990, half the population would be starving, basically.
00:47:56.000 None of that ended up being true.
00:47:57.000 So Thanos is basically Paul Ehrlich, the Stanford professor, with less hair.
00:48:02.000 And Paul Ehrlich was totally wrong.
00:48:04.000 He was wrong about everything.
00:48:05.000 People are more prosperous now.
00:48:06.000 There are more of us now than ever before in human history by a long margin.
00:48:10.000 And yet things are OK.
00:48:13.000 Honestly, this movie could have been solved if somebody sat Thomas Sowell down with Thanos.
00:48:17.000 Like, that would have fixed everything.
00:48:18.000 They should have gotten Julian Simon's ghost to sit down with Thanos, and they could have had a nice conversation about scarcity of resources and allocation of those resources.
00:48:27.000 Also, if it turns out that overpopulation is a thing among humanoid creatures, typically people just have fewer kids, which is what has happened throughout human history, which is why as countries get richer, it's actually interesting.
00:48:37.000 As countries get richer, people have fewer kids.
00:48:39.000 But, aside from the philosophical problems with Thanos,
00:48:42.000 The movie revolves around Thanos.
00:48:43.000 So every beat of the movie is involved with Thanos' story.
00:48:46.000 It really is not Avengers Infinity War.
00:48:48.000 It really more is Thanos, The Origins.
00:48:50.000 Because this is all lead up to Avengers Infinity War Part 2.
00:48:54.000 And this is my big problem with the movie.
00:48:56.000 My big problem with the movie is that the entire thing is leading up to this giant climax where a bunch of people are going to get killed.
00:49:03.000 And suffice it to say, without telling you who gets killed, a bunch of major characters get killed, there are some characters who get killed for real.
00:49:08.000 But it is very obvious by the end of the movie that some of the characters who have been killed are not going to remain dead, though.
00:49:13.000 Okay, now the reason that I know this is because I'm not a stupid human.
00:49:16.000 And when I watch the end of Infinity War, and bad stuff happens, I won't fully spoil it, bad stuff happens to many of the major characters, there are certain characters where you go, oh man, I can't believe they killed that guy off.
00:49:27.000 And then they kill off a couple of characters, and you're like, nah.
00:49:31.000 Nah, because it turns out that Marvel is a Disney property, and Marvel is not gonna kill off all of its most bankable stars because they have movies already slated on the books with these stars.
00:49:41.000 Okay, so they're not gonna kill off, like, you're gonna know who I'm talking about, but there's one character in particular who's been in a film that made a lot of money, as in all the money.
00:49:51.000 They're not gonna kill off that character, right?
00:49:53.000 And when you're watching it, and you're thinking about it, the minute it happens,
00:49:57.000 We're good.
00:50:17.000 Deep, horrible things are going to happen, then you can't do it with me as the audience knowing that you're faking, with me as the audience knowing you're lying.
00:50:25.000 Like the first time it happens, the first time somebody dies, and it's a major character, at the end of the film.
00:50:30.000 There are a couple major deaths before that in the film, and those ones I think are real.
00:50:33.000 By the time they get to the end of the film, when a major character dies, and you know that that person is not going to die, you're like, but...
00:50:40.000 What?
00:50:41.000 So why couldn't we have just had, like, a seven-minute movie?
00:50:43.000 Like, sure, it was fun and all, but we could have had, like, a seven-minute movie, and the seven-minute movie would have gone something like this, right?
00:50:48.000 It would have gone something like this.
00:50:49.000 It would have been a Star Wars crawl that says, Thanos, Scourge of the Universe, has found a box with six Infinity Stones in it.
00:50:56.000 Flashback to Thanos on his home planet, debating with his friends and family about whether they should kill off half the population.
00:51:02.000 Him losing the debate, half the population dying, right?
00:51:04.000 Just like Jor-El on Krypton, right?
00:51:06.000 And then,
00:51:07.000 Next thing you know, it shows Thanos with his magic glove on, right?
00:51:11.000 He snaps, and then you get the end of the movie.
00:51:14.000 So the whole thing could have been eight minutes long, and that actually would have been the prologue to the second Infinity War, which is where this stuff actually is going to happen, because this is all a lie.
00:51:22.000 The next Infinity War is where the remaining characters are going to go about reversing everything that just happened in this movie.
00:51:27.000 Don't do that.
00:51:28.000 That's cheating.
00:51:29.000 You cheated me out of $35 because I had to spend a bunch of money to go to the ArcLight with my wife to see this thing so I could talk about it.
00:51:35.000 And again, did I not enjoy it?
00:51:37.000 I enjoyed it.
00:51:38.000 I enjoyed it.
00:51:39.000 But you can't make me feel emotionally... There's one particular death where they do it, and they are so attempting to strangle you as an audience member.
00:51:46.000 They're so attempting to strangle tears out of you as an audience member in the way this character dies, and you're like,
00:51:51.000 But he's not dead.
00:51:52.000 Like, I know he's not dead.
00:51:53.000 I know for a fact he's not dead.
00:51:54.000 Because there's a movie slated on the books with this star a year from now.
00:51:58.000 So he's not dead, right?
00:51:59.000 So you're lying to me.
00:52:00.000 You're trying to, like... There's a scene in the show Friends where there's an anniversary for Ross and... What's Courtney Cox's character's name?
00:52:13.000 It's not Rachel.
00:52:13.000 It's the other one.
00:52:15.000 In any case...
00:52:16.000 Monica, thank you.
00:52:17.000 With Ross and Monica's parents, and Monica is, and Ross can always make the parents cry at the, at the anniversary, and Monica desperately wants to make the parents cry, so she does a speech, and the parents aren't crying at all, and so she just starts telling stories about, like, when the dog died and all this sort of thing.
00:52:31.000 Like, there is that moment in Avengers Infinity War where one of the characters is, like, basically the producers are saying, like, you need to cry now.
00:52:38.000 If you're not crying now, it's because you're a bad person.
00:52:40.000 Why aren't you crying?
00:52:41.000 Why aren't you crying?
00:52:41.000 It's wrong with you, aren't you?
00:52:42.000 And I'm not crying because I know he's not dead!
00:52:44.000 That's why I'm not crying, you s- Okay, so.
00:52:48.000 Was it bad?
00:52:48.000 No, it was enjoyable.
00:52:50.000 But am I going to give them the credence of pretending?
00:52:53.000 Am I gonna pretend along with them that any of these people are really dead?
00:52:57.000 No, because I'm not a stupid idiot.
00:52:58.000 Okay, so there is my Infinity War summation.
00:53:01.000 And now, if I've spoiled the movie for you, sorry, but I gave you fair warning.
00:53:06.000 You could've tuned out earlier and then listened to it later.
00:53:08.000 Anyway, we'll be back here tomorrow with all the rest of the news, and hopefully I will have vented my spleen about Avengers Infinity War by then.
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