The Ben Shapiro Show - April 13, 2021


Riot Time In MinneapolisĀ | Ep. 1234


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Length

46 minutes

Words per Minute

211.04701

Word Count

9,877

Sentence Count

671

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary

Another police shooting of an unarmed black man in Minneapolis spurs riots, and Rashida Tlaib calls for an end to policing. Ben Shapiro explains why this is an open and shut case of involuntary manslaughter, and why the police officer involved in the shooting should not be charged with a crime. He also explains why the shooting of Daunte Wright by a female cop in Minneapolis is not a case of mistaken identity and why she should not face criminal charges. Ben Shapiro is the host of the Ben Shapiro Show on the Fox Business Network. He is a regular contributor to the New York Times and frequently appears on CNN and other media outlets. His work has been featured in the Wall Street Journal, USA Today, USA TODAY, and USA Today Magazine, and he is the author of several books, including The Dark Side of the Street: A Memoirs of a Black Man's Life on the Streets of New York City, which he co-authored with John Avlon. If you are looking for a safe haven against inflation, gold and silver, then you'll want to check out Gold and Silver. When Inflation hits, and when it hits, gold & silver are in fact your safe haven! When inflation hits, Gold and silver are a great safe haven from the coming crash, you can be protected from the worst of the worst possible economic downturns that the world can t crash. . Recorded in Minneapolis, Minnetonka, Minnesota, on April 30th, 2019. - Ben Shapiro's latest book, "Inflation and Gold & Silver: How to Protect Your Future: The Story of a Safe Haven from Inflation and the Great Depression." by Ben Shapiro, The Best of the Minneapolis Police Officer's Story of an Unrestrained Man in Minneapolis. by the Minneapolis Officer's Unrest in the City of Minneapolis, MN, and His Journey Through the Struggle of an Officer's Reaction to an Unarmed Black Man Who Didn't Get a Shot by a White Man's Death by a Police Officer Who Didn t Know It Wasn't Given a Chance to Protect His Life Anywhere Elsewhere, Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, and Part 2 and Part 3 of the Final Epilogue to Part 2 of this Episode of "Incomptech, Part I of this Series of This Is It All, by Tim McGannon and Part II of This Book, Part 4 of This Episode


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00:00:00.000 Another police shooting of an unarmed black man in Minneapolis spurs riots and Rashida Tlaib calls for an end to policing.
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00:01:29.000 All righty, so the news at this hour continues to be widespread unrest in the city of Minneapolis, all following the shooting of Daunte Wright.
00:01:40.000 Daunte Wright was pulled over on the basis of a traffic violation, and then he died basically because it seems that the cop in this particular incident drew a taser, this female cop, she drew a taser as opposed to her gun, mistook her taser for the gun, and proceeded to shoot the 20-year-old Daunte Wright.
00:02:01.000 This is very reminiscent of the situation back in 2015 in which a black man in Oakland named Oscar Grant was shot by a police officer who claimed that he thought he was firing a taser at Oscar Grant and in fact shot a gun at him and killed him.
00:02:14.000 It seems like the same sort of thing and this seems like a pretty open and shut case of involuntary manslaughter.
00:02:14.000 Dante, right?
00:02:19.000 The reason I say that is because there's body cam footage and it is obvious from the body cam footage that the cop in this particular case was not intending to kill Daunte Wright and pretty much obviously says on the tape, whoops, which is awful and horrible. Also, it is manslaughter, not murder. Here is here's what that body camera footage sounded like. So Wright is being handcuffed
00:02:47.000 in this particular tape and they go to handcuff Wright and then Wright tries to break free, tries to get in the car, is resisting arrest, but the punishment for resisting arrest is not being shot, obviously.
00:03:01.000 Oh my god!
00:03:03.000 The officer withdraws a gun and proceeds to... Okay, and you can hear the cop there shout, Taser, taser, taser.
00:03:18.000 She says taser, taser, taser.
00:03:19.000 She obviously thought that she was firing a taser.
00:03:21.000 It was not, in fact, a taser.
00:03:21.000 That's not right.
00:03:23.000 It was a gun.
00:03:24.000 And there's been this attempt by the Twitterverse to try and say that she clearly knew it was a gun, but that's not right.
00:03:30.000 I mean, it's pretty obvious that she thought she was firing a taser.
00:03:33.000 That does not justify the activity, nor does it mean that you get off in terms of criminal liability scot-free.
00:03:38.000 The officer in the Oscar Grant case ended up being convicted of manslaughter and doing some jail time.
00:03:42.000 This all resulted in the usual round of rioting and looting in Minneapolis.
00:03:47.000 The Brooklyn Center Police Chief came out and said right off the top that this gunshot was, in fact, accidental.
00:03:53.000 Here's the Brooklyn Center Police Chief's name is Tim McGannon talking about this.
00:03:58.000 As I watched the video and listened to the officer's commands, it is my belief that the officer had the intention to deploy their taser, but instead shot Mr. Wright with a single bullet.
00:04:10.000 This appears to me, from what I viewed and the officer's reaction in distress immediately after, that this was an accidental discharge.
00:04:17.000 That resulted in the tragic death of Mr. Wright.
00:04:20.000 This is what I'm here for.
00:04:22.000 I'm the leader of this department.
00:04:24.000 They expect me to lead.
00:04:25.000 Create a safe city.
00:04:26.000 He says, listen, I'm just trying to be honest here.
00:04:28.000 I'm trying to be transparent with you.
00:04:29.000 This is what I'm here for.
00:04:31.000 OK, I'm the leader of this department.
00:04:35.000 They expect me to lead.
00:04:39.000 Create a safe city.
00:04:42.000 That's what I'm trying to do.
00:04:44.000 So that's that's it.
00:04:47.000 I hope you're not crying, Sidney.
00:04:48.000 Okay. And yeah, I'm emotional.
00:04:51.000 Guys, he's being honest.
00:04:52.000 I'm just trying to be honest.
00:04:54.000 Okay, well, being honest is not something that apparently the media celebrate in this day and age when it comes to dealing with these sorts of very fraught situations, obviously a tragedy like this one. How much is honesty not prized? Well, here's an example. There is a Brooklyn City manager. His name is Kurt Bogaini. And he was giving a press conference and he was asked if this officer is going to be summarily fired. And Kurt Bogaini said, what is true, True, legally speaking, he said the officer is entitled to due process, we have union And once due process is carried forward, then we'll tell you more.
00:05:24.000 Here's what Bogaini had to say.
00:05:26.000 All employees working for the City of Brooklyn Center are entitled to due process with respect to discipline.
00:05:34.000 This employee will receive due process and that's really all that I can say today.
00:05:41.000 Okay, this resulted, I kid you not, in Kurt Bogaini being fired.
00:05:45.000 According to Fox News, Kurt Bogaini was fired on Monday evening, hours after he publicly disagreed with Mayor Mike Elliott's assertion that the police officer who fatally shot a black man in a Minneapolis suburb should be immediately fired in response to the incident.
00:05:57.000 Mayor Mike Elliott said, effective immediately, our city manager has been relieved of his duties and the deputy city manager will be assuming his duties moving forward.
00:06:04.000 I'll continue to work my hardest to ensure good leadership at all levels of our city government because good leadership obviously means that you don't call for due process for people who are going to end up in the criminal justice system.
00:06:13.000 Good leadership means that people are summarily fired without due process, obviously.
00:06:17.000 I mean, not just summarily fired, but if you say that they should have due process, then you lose your job too.
00:06:22.000 And this is pretty wild stuff.
00:06:25.000 And frankly, I think there's probably a First Amendment case here on behalf of the Brooklyn City Manager.
00:06:29.000 I mean, if you're getting fired by a public agency for the great crime of saying that somebody needs due process before you fire them, I don't know how that's a fireable offense.
00:06:38.000 This person has a pretty obvious claim against the city for the firing.
00:06:43.000 Elliot said, Before leaving the podium, Elliot noted Boghaini, as city manager, had the authority to determine whether the officer would be fired.
00:06:47.000 loss of life of other people in our profession.
00:06:49.000 I do fully support releasing the officer of his or her duties.
00:06:52.000 Before leaving the podium, Elliott noted Boghaini, as city manager, had the authority to determine whether the officer would be fired.
00:06:58.000 And Boghaini said that this employee will receive due process, that's all I can really say.
00:07:02.000 And then when asked about personal feelings, Boghaini again said, due process.
00:07:06.000 And if I were to answer that question, I'd be contradicting what I said a moment ago, which is to say that all employees are entitled to due process.
00:07:11.000 And after that due process, discipline will be determined.
00:07:13.000 If I were to say anything else, I'd be contradicting the idea of due process.
00:07:17.000 The mayor didn't like this.
00:07:18.000 And the mayor, one of the reasons the mayor didn't like this is because the mayor and the city council are afraid that if this person is not summarily fired without due process, and by the way, this will end with the person being fired.
00:07:28.000 Pretty obvious breach of duty on the part of the officer and a criminal act in all likelihood.
00:07:34.000 This person probably goes to jail for involuntary manslaughter.
00:07:36.000 Council member Chris Lawrence-Anderson said she voted to fire Boghaini out of fear of potential reprisals from protesters if she did not.
00:07:43.000 So we are now having our government run by mob rule.
00:07:46.000 We are now having the mob determine whether people are guilty or innocent and what punishments they should receive and whether or not you are allowed to say that somebody should receive due process or not.
00:07:55.000 And meanwhile, you have Rashida Tlaib, a congresswoman from Michigan, saying this wasn't an accident at all.
00:08:03.000 Which, of course, is patently crazy.
00:08:05.000 Here's Rashida Tlaib's tweet, quote, Oh, is it?
00:08:12.000 Inherently and intentionally racist?
00:08:14.000 Because it seems to me that when you watch that tape, it is extremely obvious that this was an accident.
00:08:19.000 The female officer in question shouts, taser, taser, taser, fires a gun, and then says, oh my God, I shot him.
00:08:26.000 It's hard to see a more open and shut case of involuntary manslaughter than that.
00:08:30.000 It is very, very obvious that this officer should have known that they were firing taser number one and number two.
00:08:36.000 I'd love for all Democrats to run on this.
00:08:42.000 No more policing or incarceration.
00:08:48.000 Let's see how that works out.
00:08:53.000 One of the things that you may have noticed is that the murder rate in Minneapolis has skyrocketed since the George Floyd protests.
00:08:58.000 You're gonna see another murder skyrocket in the aftermath of this particular shooting because the police are simply going to stop policing.
00:09:05.000 At the behest of people like Rashida Tlaib.
00:09:07.000 Seriously, guys.
00:09:08.000 Really, do it.
00:09:08.000 Do it.
00:09:09.000 Run on this.
00:09:10.000 Run on no more policing and no more incarceration and see how far it takes you.
00:09:13.000 There's a reason that murder in America's major metropolitan areas was up 33% last year.
00:09:18.000 By the way, this should be a pretty ringing rebuttal of many of the claims made over the past couple of decades about why the crime rate declined from 1994 to 2015.
00:09:27.000 There are many theories that were put out there, ranging from lead paint was removed from schools, to abortion, to economics.
00:09:34.000 Okay, but here's the thing.
00:09:36.000 The economy was kind of booming in 2014, 2015, 2016, or at least it was on a growth curve.
00:09:42.000 And that did not stop a massive uptick in violence during those years.
00:09:46.000 As soon as you start loosening the restrictions with regard to criminal behavior, you get an uptick in violence.
00:09:51.000 If your solution to police misconduct is disband the police, you don't have the best interests of your constituents at heart.
00:09:57.000 So seriously, Democrats, do this.
00:09:59.000 Keep running on this.
00:10:00.000 Please, please.
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00:11:06.000 Okay, so the Democratic response to this shooting is that police apparently should either be disbanded or completely reformed.
00:11:15.000 Minnesota's Governor Tim Walz, who's a Democrat, he says we have to stop pretending we can't do anything.
00:11:19.000 I don't know.
00:11:21.000 Honest to God, I don't know what you can do.
00:11:23.000 In this particular situation, beyond officers who behave like this need to go to jail.
00:11:29.000 I don't know what systemic policing needs to be changed.
00:11:32.000 Maybe have better selection techniques for people who join the cops.
00:11:34.000 Better training techniques for people who join the police force.
00:11:37.000 But other than that, what is the systemic... Is this a systemic racial problem when somebody withdraws a taser?
00:11:44.000 Or withdraws a gun and thinks it's a taser?
00:11:46.000 Is it a systemic racial problem when there's no evidence in the Derek Chauvin case, for example, that race was even a driving factor in that particular case?
00:11:53.000 Doesn't matter.
00:11:54.000 Here's Tim Walz pushing this.
00:11:56.000 We can stop pretending that this is just the natural order of the universe and things happen this way.
00:12:01.000 I'm going to demand that the legislature finally hold some hearings on some of these reforms, as I said, that have passed in other states and have proven to make a difference.
00:12:11.000 Things that are supported by both law enforcement and community members.
00:12:14.000 Things that we know that would reduce the chance of a routine traffic stop escalating into a loss of life.
00:12:22.000 There are things that can be done.
00:12:24.000 Okay, so in this particular case, the routine traffic stop should not have turned into a loss of life because it was, in fact, an accident, right?
00:12:31.000 As you can see from the body cam footage.
00:12:33.000 A tragic, terrible accident for which the officer, again, will likely spend jail time.
00:12:38.000 It is also true that in this particular incident, the situation escalated at the beginning because the person resisted arrest.
00:12:44.000 That does not mean the punishment for resisting arrest is getting shot in the chest, obviously.
00:12:48.000 So I'm just, I don't know what solution Walls is proposing here, other than he's just going to say things like, we know the solution to this.
00:12:55.000 I don't know.
00:12:57.000 Really, do you know the solution to cops just doing bad things that are already criminal?
00:13:01.000 I don't know the solution to that.
00:13:02.000 And I don't think Rashida Tlaib does.
00:13:04.000 And I don't think that Tim Walls does.
00:13:06.000 But here's the St.
00:13:07.000 Paul mayor saying, we have to keep asking ourselves, why does this keep happening?
00:13:10.000 Over and over.
00:13:11.000 This is Melvin Carter, the mayor of St.
00:13:13.000 Paul.
00:13:14.000 We have to ask ourselves, why?
00:13:16.000 How?
00:13:18.000 Does this keep happening over and over again in America, in the world, in Minnesota?
00:13:24.000 We have to know that the first law of motion Is that objects in motion will remain in motion until some force stops it from happening.
00:13:35.000 And so when we recognize this strong, horrific trend that keeps happening over and over and over again, we have to know that Dante Wright will not be the last name, will not be the last hashtag on this list until and unless we take decisive and urgent action to ensure that he Okay, I don't know what that means.
00:13:58.000 I honest to God don't know what that means.
00:14:00.000 What exactly are you proposing here?
00:14:01.000 Are you proposing like Rashida Tlaib that we get rid of the cops?
00:14:04.000 Are you proposing something that magically prevents officers from making mistakes?
00:14:08.000 What exactly are you proposing here?
00:14:09.000 And the general tenor, again, is that this is happening every day.
00:14:13.000 How does this keep happening?
00:14:14.000 That the real problem for black men in America is that this is likely to happen to you if you're pulled over for a traffic stop.
00:14:19.000 There are literally millions of officer-civilian interactions every year in the United States.
00:14:23.000 The number of actual cases that happen like this, just on a statistical level, are extremely rare.
00:14:29.000 That's why we know their names.
00:14:31.000 There are very few things in the United States that happen every single day to many, many, many people where you know everybody's name.
00:14:36.000 This has happened to.
00:14:37.000 But you know everybody's name.
00:14:38.000 And the reason you know everybody's name is because, statistically speaking, it is, in fact, extremely rare.
00:14:42.000 In fact, it's significantly more rare for the cops to shoot a black person unarmed than it is for the cops to shoot a person who is white unarmed.
00:14:50.000 That's according to Roland Fryer's study, done at Harvard University just a couple of years ago.
00:14:55.000 As Matt Walsh has pointed out, the notion that this is a race-based situation in Brooklyn Center is a very weird take.
00:15:03.000 Matt Walsh at the Daily Wire says the shooting appears to be a tragic accident for which the officer might be held criminally liable. It doesn't appear to be the sort of racist execution that Black Lives Matter has made it out to be. Indeed, none of the police shootings protested by BLM have lived up to that billing. What we've learned time and again is that the rioters don't ultimately care what happens. He says between January 1st, 2020 and March 31st, 2021, there have been 507 white people shot to death by police compared to 271 black people. Right?
00:15:30.000 Nobody knows the name of any of the white people.
00:15:31.000 The only white person anybody knows the name of is Ashley Babbitt, because she's the person who broke into the Capitol along with the other rioters and then was shot in the neck.
00:15:38.000 We didn't hear a lot of protestations about police brutality in that case.
00:15:42.000 Indeed, as Matt Walsh points out, a lot of people had no problem at all with Ashley Babbitt being shot.
00:15:48.000 Okay, so when we say that this is a massive trend, the way that the St.
00:15:51.000 Paul mayor is saying, why does this keep happening?
00:15:53.000 This won't stop happening until there's major sustainability.
00:15:56.000 What change are we talking about?
00:15:58.000 In fact, can we be very specific about the problem we're talking about?
00:16:00.000 Are we talking about the problem of police mistraining?
00:16:02.000 Because there we have a solution.
00:16:04.000 Are we talking about the problem of police brutality?
00:16:06.000 Because there, there's some possible solutions.
00:16:08.000 Or is the implication that black people are being routinely targeted for murder?
00:16:11.000 Because this case does not support that idea.
00:16:13.000 Even this case, as tragic and horrific as it is, does not support that actual idea.
00:16:19.000 Now, Joe Biden had some words about this particular case.
00:16:21.000 The word was woe.
00:16:22.000 He just said that a lot.
00:16:24.000 So he was asked about about the Daunte Wright shooting.
00:16:27.000 And here was Joe Biden's rather addled take.
00:16:30.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:16:39.000 Hang on just a second.
00:16:41.000 Wait, wait, wait.
00:16:42.000 Wait a second.
00:16:45.000 What I'm going to do, I'm going to see you all again in a few minutes.
00:16:48.000 I have just taken the time, even though I was a few minutes late, to listen to the press conference.
00:16:54.000 I'm preparing a statement and I'll be happy to talk with you at the next meeting.
00:16:58.000 Inspiring stuff there from the President of the United States.
00:17:00.000 Remember that time when it was treated as though, literally, Joe Biden tweeted out last year that every violent incident was on Donald Trump because he was the President of the United States.
00:17:09.000 That ceased to apply because Joe Biden's president now.
00:17:12.000 How does that math work?
00:17:13.000 Exactly.
00:17:13.000 Okay, in a second, we're gonna get to the looting and rioting that inevitably seem to follow each one of these incidents, regardless of the details of the incident.
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00:18:30.000 Okay, so rioting and looting did break out in Minneapolis over the past couple of nights after all of this.
00:18:37.000 In fact, ironically and sadly, and really pathetically, some of the businesses that were looted at this time were also ransacked last year during the George Floyd riots.
00:18:47.000 This is according to Ryan Mills over at National Review.
00:18:49.000 Several stores ransacked after Sunday's fatal police shooting in Brooklyn Center, Minnesota were vandalized and looted less than a year ago in the riots that ensued across the Twin Cities after George Floyd's death in police custody.
00:18:59.000 And people wonder why it is that Criminal activity and rioting and looting lead to people withdrawing their businesses from major cities and the loss of both tax revenue and jobs.
00:19:08.000 That would be why when you tell the cops to stand back, when the cops are deprived of their ability to do their jobs, two things can be true at once.
00:19:16.000 Cops have to have ability to do their jobs.
00:19:18.000 Also, cops should be prosecuted if they pull a gun instead of a taser and shoot somebody.
00:19:24.000 All of this can be true at once.
00:19:26.000 But what's happened in the aftermath of all of this is this widespread reaction in which our nation's political leaders say that the police themselves are inherently bad, widespread change is necessary, and also we're going to change the terms of contract under which police officers work, thus to make it impossible for police to do ordinary police work.
00:19:41.000 Not to break the law, but to do ordinary police work.
00:19:44.000 The Foot Locker, T-Mobile, and GameStop stores in the city were among the stores looted last May, said Mark Allen, president of the Brooklyn Center Business Association.
00:19:51.000 He worries about the lasting impact the second go-round of rioting will have on the business community.
00:19:55.000 Well, yes.
00:19:57.000 According to Allen, what would be the rationale or the reason that any of these businesses would want to open in our community again?
00:20:03.000 It's frustrating.
00:20:05.000 He says, I can understand mourning for it.
00:20:06.000 I can understand protesting for it.
00:20:07.000 But then on the flip side, these are the same people running out of Foot Locker saying, yay, I got a free pair of shoes because of this.
00:20:11.000 It doesn't make any sense.
00:20:13.000 Okay, well, there is something fascinating that is happening here, not just because you can see the impact here, right, which is the sports leagues.
00:20:21.000 Things were so bad that the sports leagues canceled all their games in Minneapolis in the aftermath of this.
00:20:26.000 If your city is so lawless that in the aftermath of a bad policing incident, you have to cancel the Twins game, you have to cancel the Timberwolves game, your city's out of control.
00:20:37.000 According to the New York Post, the Minnesota Twins postponed Monday's game against the Red Sox after the fatal shooting of Daunte Wright, which has caused widespread protest throughout the city.
00:20:44.000 Wright was killed during that traffic stop.
00:20:46.000 The statement said, out of respect for the tragic events that occurred Sunday in Brooklyn Center and following the additional details in this evolving situation, the Minnesota Twins have decided it is in the best interest of our fans, staff, players, and community to not play today's game.
00:20:58.000 The decision was made by the Twins after consultation with MLB and local and state officials.
00:21:03.000 And the NBA did the same thing.
00:21:05.000 Minnesota Timberwolves did the same thing.
00:21:08.000 They suspended their game last night.
00:21:10.000 They put out a statement saying, The reality, of course, is that it's really not the shooting that is causing the postponement.
00:21:14.000 It is the looting that is causing the postponement.
00:21:15.000 and the Minnesota Timberwolves at the Target Center has been postponed.
00:21:18.000 Okay, the reality of course is that it's really not the shooting that is causing the postponement, it is the looting that is causing the postponement.
00:21:25.000 There are tragic shootings that happen in major cities like Minneapolis every day.
00:21:29.000 Most of them, the vast majority of them, do not involve the cops.
00:21:32.000 If Chicago's sports teams were to delay every game based on tragic shootings in the city, they could not have a day where there was a game in the city of Chicago.
00:21:40.000 And what's happening here is that criminals are running out of control, looting and rioting in the aftermath of incidents like this, and by the way, cheered on by the media.
00:21:48.000 Cheered on by the media.
00:21:50.000 Okay, so for example, Yesterday, the police chief in Brooklyn Center was talking, and he was talking about the fact that there was, in fact, rioting in Minneapolis.
00:21:59.000 And one of the reporters insisted, no, there was no rioting.
00:22:01.000 So we are going all the way back to the beginning of the summer last year when the media insisted that even though you were watching Buildings burn in the background of the George Floyd protests.
00:22:13.000 There was no rioting at all.
00:22:15.000 Remember, reporters literally standing in front of burning buildings and explaining these were mostly peaceful protests.
00:22:20.000 Here is the Brooklyn Center police chief saying, no, there was rioting and a reporter saying, stop saying rioting.
00:22:25.000 There was no rioting.
00:22:26.000 Who are you going to believe?
00:22:27.000 The reporters or your own eyes?
00:22:29.000 Here's the police chief versus the reporter here.
00:22:32.000 Just so everybody's clear, I was front and center at the protest, at the riot.
00:22:38.000 We did not... Don't do that.
00:22:41.000 There was no riot.
00:22:42.000 There was.
00:22:46.000 The officers that were putting themselves in harm's way were being pelted with frozen cans of pop.
00:22:52.000 They were being pelted with concrete blocks.
00:22:55.000 And yes, we had our helmets on and we had other protection gear, but an officer was injured, hit in the head with a brick.
00:23:01.000 It was a Hennepin County deputy.
00:23:03.000 He was transported to the hospital.
00:23:05.000 So we had to make decisions.
00:23:06.000 Okay, but the media are insisting, no, no, no, no.
00:23:08.000 Everything is perfectly peaceful.
00:23:09.000 Everything is perfectly good.
00:23:10.000 So we are back to last summer when rioting and looting is justified on the basis of a manslaughter case against a police officer.
00:23:17.000 That's where we are.
00:23:19.000 Now, what's interesting is because Trump is no longer president, Democrats seem a lot less sanguine with the rioting and the looting this time.
00:23:25.000 So you remember at the very beginning, there were like the Minneapolis mayor, he went down to the protesters and some of the rioters and he's like, I'm with you guys.
00:23:32.000 And then they yelled at him and they called him a racist and all this sort of stuff.
00:23:35.000 And remember that many of the top Democratic officials were rather hesitant to talk in very strong terms about rioting and looting.
00:23:42.000 Joe Biden was actually somewhat exceptional in this regard fairly early on.
00:23:45.000 I think it was June 2nd after the after the riots started.
00:23:48.000 He said that, you know, there really is no justification for rioting.
00:23:51.000 It was much softer language.
00:23:53.000 Well, now Biden is, you know, going after it a little bit harder because, of course, Joe Biden is president now and it doesn't look as wonderful for there to be rioting and looting while he's the president of the United States.
00:24:03.000 Because after all, if you blame Trump for the rioting and looting, guess who's president now?
00:24:05.000 It ain't Trump anymore.
00:24:08.000 I want to make it clear again.
00:24:09.000 There is absolutely no justification, none, for looting.
00:24:14.000 No justification for violence.
00:24:17.000 Peaceful protest?
00:24:19.000 Understandable.
00:24:20.000 And the fact is that, you know, we do know that the anger, pain, and trauma that exists in the black community in that environment is real.
00:24:29.000 It's serious and it's consequential.
00:24:32.000 But it will not justify violence and or looting.
00:24:36.000 Okay, and then Minnesota's governor, Tim Walz, the same guy who was saying we can't stand this anymore and we know there are solutions.
00:24:42.000 I remind you, at this time, that the Democrats filibustered Tim Scott's police reform bill last year.
00:24:47.000 Man, they used that Jim Crow tool, the filibuster, in order to stop a black Republican senator's police reform bill.
00:24:52.000 Just a quick reminder how much of this is politics.
00:24:55.000 Here's Minnesota's governor, Tim Walz, saying there's no tolerance for looting in this state.
00:24:58.000 I mean, sure, we let you run completely through the city last year, but now there's no tolerance for looting, at least.
00:25:04.000 For those who choose to go out and, as Mayor Carter said, to exploit these tragedies for destruction or personal gain, you can rest assured that the largest police presence in Minnesota history in coordination will be prepared.
00:25:18.000 You will be arrested.
00:25:19.000 You will be charged.
00:25:20.000 And there will be consequences for those actions.
00:25:22.000 It's not debatable.
00:25:23.000 You're not making the case.
00:25:25.000 You're hurting the case.
00:25:26.000 You're undermining the grief.
00:25:27.000 And you hear it from families time and time again.
00:25:30.000 Don't you dare step into our space where we're trying to enact change through our system.
00:25:34.000 You notice a little bit of a change in attitude here from last year?
00:25:36.000 I was in L.A.
00:25:38.000 last year during the riots, and all the public officials were like, well, we kind of have to give them space to riot.
00:25:43.000 I mean, it's not great that they're doing this, but we'll tell the cops to stand back and stand down.
00:25:47.000 We'll curfew the entire city at 6 p.m.
00:25:48.000 to make sure that people have the space to go out and do what they want to do.
00:25:51.000 We'll shut down Rodeo Drive at 1 p.m.
00:25:53.000 in L.A.
00:25:54.000 And now it's like Joe Biden's president, and suddenly all these Democratic politicians are like, you know what we can't stand?
00:25:58.000 This rioting and this looting, this has got to stop.
00:26:00.000 We need some law and order around here.
00:26:02.000 Yes, yes, so much of this is political.
00:26:05.000 It really is quite astonishing.
00:26:07.000 And this, again, ties into the broader narrative.
00:26:09.000 And the broader narrative is that with Democrats in charge, finally solutions are on the way.
00:26:14.000 There's a dual narrative.
00:26:14.000 The dual narrative is one, that every incident like this is proof of systemic American racism.
00:26:20.000 This is not a racist incident.
00:26:22.000 I'm unaware of any racial overtones or undertones to this particular incident.
00:26:28.000 I've seen the body cam footage.
00:26:28.000 You've seen the body cam footage.
00:26:31.000 Speaking of which, the Derek Chauvin incident, they still have not shown either first degree purposeful attempt at murder, or two, I mean, they didn't even charge that, or two, racism in that particular case.
00:26:42.000 But the narrative is that whenever there's a police incident involving a non-black police officer and a black victim, then that means that systemic American racism is at play.
00:26:55.000 And secondarily, the Democrats are going to solve this thing.
00:26:58.000 Democrats are really gonna get on this and they're gonna solve this thing.
00:27:00.000 So the editorial board of the Washington Post has a piece today titled, Has Nothing Been Learned From George Floyd's Death?
00:27:05.000 Okay, so first off, he hasn't been convicted yet, Derek Chauvin, I noticed.
00:27:10.000 I noticed that they're still in the process of that trial.
00:27:12.000 And in fact, the case is not going swimmingly for the prosecution.
00:27:15.000 There are a bunch of holes in the case.
00:27:16.000 We've discussed them before.
00:27:17.000 The defense is beginning to lay out its case this week.
00:27:19.000 By Friday, the defense will have closed and they expect a verdict basically by Monday.
00:27:24.000 But here's the Washington Post trying to connect all of these cases with a thin read, right, suggesting this is all about police racism, even though, again, the Chauvin case was not a case of racism, as far as I'm aware, in any piece of evidence.
00:27:35.000 And this case is not about racism, as far as I'm aware.
00:27:38.000 Bad policing can just be bad policing.
00:27:40.000 In any case, the Washington Post is safe to say no one likes to be pulled over by police.
00:27:43.000 But for black and brown people, there is extra dread and fear and danger.
00:27:47.000 I'd like to see some statistical proof that this is the case.
00:27:49.000 The shocking video of a black army officer being held at gunpoint and pepper sprayed by police during a traffic stop in Virginia and the fatal shooting of another black man by police in Minnesota who stopped him because of expired tags on his car. Once again, spotlight problems on how police treat people of color and the need for fundamental changes in how police operate.
00:28:04.000 Now, here is where you would expect there to be some sort of statistical evidence demonstrating that motorists who are black are treated differently when pulled over than motorists who are white in terms of deadly force used or heavy force used.
00:28:16.000 Here's where you'd expect, nope, Washington Post ain't gonna bring any because anecdotal evidence is better than statistical or data-driven evidence.
00:28:22.000 By the way, I noted yesterday on this Virginia case, I talked about that, and I noted that that looked like a bad case of the police overreacting and acting badly with regard to the person in the car.
00:28:32.000 If you actually watch the entire tape, and I recommend to you that you watch the entire tape through with Officer Brandon Tatum, who's been a guest on this program.
00:28:38.000 He did a YouTube video in which he went through, in detail, that particular traffic stop.
00:28:43.000 The Black Army officer who was held during that stop, the lights started flashing.
00:28:49.000 He drove for another mile and a half.
00:28:50.000 He said he did so because he wanted to get into a lighted area.
00:28:52.000 And then he refused a bunch of commands by the police to put his hands outside the car and to get out of the car.
00:28:58.000 Meanwhile, he was simultaneously live streaming the thing.
00:29:00.000 So does that mean that he was treated correctly by the police?
00:29:04.000 It doesn't mean he was treated correctly by the police.
00:29:05.000 It also doesn't mean that he was You know, completely complying with their commands, and then they just went hog wild on him.
00:29:11.000 That is not a completely accurate take on that particular incident either.
00:29:15.000 So yesterday, I'd sort of given the impression that in that particular case, it was a completely one-sided case of the cops being completely awful and the person who was pulled over being completely innocent.
00:29:26.000 Wasn't quite that simple.
00:29:27.000 And I said, we have to wait for details on the Minnesota case.
00:29:29.000 Well, now we have the details on the Minnesota case, and that one looks awful in pretty much every respect.
00:29:33.000 And the one in Virginia, it looks awful in some respects, but not in other respects.
00:29:36.000 Namely, the police officers in that case actually deescalated use of force.
00:29:40.000 So for example, the police officer who pepper sprayed, the black army officer, He actually had a gun in his hand.
00:29:46.000 He took the gun, he holstered the gun, and then he took out the pepper spray.
00:29:48.000 Should he have used the pepper spray on the guy?
00:29:51.000 Probably not.
00:29:52.000 Also, the guy didn't obey police commands, like on a bunch of occasions.
00:29:55.000 He refused to unbuckle and get out of the car after told to do so many, many times.
00:30:00.000 He was livestreaming and arguing with the officers thoroughly.
00:30:04.000 And none of that means that the police officers acted appropriately, but to treat that as this is a vicious case of police racism ignores some of the complicating factors.
00:30:13.000 But according to the Washington Post, none of that matters.
00:30:15.000 A case that ostensibly prompted a national reckoning on racial inequities in policing.
00:30:17.000 Has nothing been learned from that tragedy?
00:30:19.000 Again, there are drawing lines from dots.
00:30:19.000 right in a suburb of Minneapolis coincide with the ongoing trial of the former police officer charged with the murder of George Floyd, a case that ostensibly prompted a national reckoning on racial inequities in policing.
00:30:30.000 Has nothing been learned from that tragedy?
00:30:32.000 Again, they're drawing lines from dots, and it doesn't matter that the dots are different in kind in each case.
00:30:39.000 Again, there's the implication of racism in the Chauvin case is not there.
00:30:43.000 The implication of racism in the Virginia case, it's being imputed by the media, but is there evidence to suggest that if a white guy in a car refused over and over to obey police commands, that it wouldn't have ended the same way?
00:30:55.000 Because again, there's no evidence of the police officers actually being racist in that particular case.
00:31:00.000 In this particular case, is there evidence of systemic police racism?
00:31:03.000 But that's the entire premise here.
00:31:05.000 And the entire premise is supported by a handful of anecdotes where you didn't even make the case.
00:31:09.000 Those are the questions that come to mind watching how police interacted with Lieutenant Nazario in the December 5th, 2020 incident that is now the subject of a federal lawsuit.
00:31:17.000 Even though the serviceman dressed in his army uniform had committed no crime, was respectful, had his arms up, and was clearly confused about why he'd been stopped, the officers treated him with contempt and belligerence.
00:31:25.000 Okay, that's a mischaracterization of what actually happened.
00:31:27.000 Okay, they say that he was respectful and he had his arms up.
00:31:30.000 He actually did not obey police commands like over and over and over.
00:31:34.000 Again, watch the entire tape.
00:31:35.000 That does not mean that the police were correct, but that's a mischaracterization of what led up to that entire incident.
00:31:42.000 More information is needed and investigation is underway, says the Washington Post into the death of Mr. Wright, a 20-year-old shot after a routine traffic stop went tragically awry.
00:31:50.000 Brooklyn Center, Minneapolis Police Chief Tim Gannon said the officer meant to fire a taser, but made an accidental discharge from her gun.
00:31:55.000 During a news conference Monday, the chief played an unedited clip of police body camera video showing the officer yelling, taser, taser, taser, firing a gun instead, and then exclaiming, holy bleep, I just shot him.
00:32:05.000 Such a mix-up seems incomprehensible and raises obvious questions about training.
00:32:09.000 Well, it does raise questions about training.
00:32:11.000 As far as incomprehensible is the idea here that she was lying?
00:32:14.000 That she knew she was gonna shoot him with the gun and she said taser taser taser to what, throw off the cameras or something?
00:32:20.000 Police said they had stopped right because he had expired registration tags.
00:32:23.000 They discovered he had an outstanding arrest warrant for a misdemeanor offense and say he resisted police.
00:32:26.000 Well, they didn't just say he resisted police, he did resist police.
00:32:29.000 He tried to break free of the cops and he jumped back in the car.
00:32:31.000 He seems to have posed no immediate danger, and he surely could have been found at another time if serving the arrest warrant was so vital.
00:32:38.000 Okay, well, now you're getting into the area where the Washington Post is just engaging in injecture.
00:32:43.000 You have an outstanding warrant for a guy, he tries to resist arrest by jumping back in his car, and the idea is, okay, so we just let him go?
00:32:50.000 How?
00:32:52.000 Yeah, and then what would have happened if he had taken that car and hit somebody?
00:32:54.000 Then the implication is the cop should have arrested him, right?
00:32:57.000 Hindsight is 20-20 in a lot of these cases, again, especially when there's an intervening situation in which an officer violates the law and violates basic training protocol.
00:33:08.000 No, that's saying that the officer in this case was acting as an outgrowth of a generalized police belief that you have to win at any cost ignores the fact that the police officer in this case acknowledges that she did something wrong in the immediate aftermath of the incident.
00:33:28.000 And so, again, the media wish to draw narrative, and then they wish to use that narrative to foment a lot of the looting and the violence.
00:33:36.000 In fact, there was this amazing video yesterday on CNN of a black man approaching members of CNN, saying to them, Guys, would you just leave?
00:33:46.000 You're making things worse.
00:33:48.000 The answer there is, yeah, that's correct.
00:33:50.000 They are making things worse.
00:33:51.000 No question.
00:33:51.000 Because they don't analyze the situation.
00:33:53.000 They don't analyze the context of every situation.
00:33:55.000 They don't analyze the fact pattern.
00:33:57.000 It's just not important to them.
00:33:58.000 At all.
00:33:59.000 Here's that clip.
00:34:00.000 Now you can see, now you can see.
00:34:02.000 Y'all be twisting up the story.
00:34:04.000 You want to talk to me?
00:34:05.000 Do you want to talk to me?
00:34:06.000 Don't take my mic, but we're cool.
00:34:06.000 Okay, cool.
00:34:08.000 Okay.
00:34:08.000 All right.
00:34:09.000 So tell me what you think about what's going on here.
00:34:11.000 What I think about this is all the press and all the extra shit y'all do.
00:34:15.000 Makes this worse.
00:34:16.000 You think so?
00:34:17.000 Yes.
00:34:18.000 Y'all need to get up out of here with all that twisting up the media.
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00:36:03.000 It's one of the worst public health messaging disasters I've seen in my lifetime.
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00:36:49.000 Meanwhile, the federal government is blowing it again.
00:36:54.000 It is amazing.
00:36:55.000 We spent like a year talking about how Donald Trump is the establishment media, your establishment media.
00:37:00.000 Donald Trump was screwing with the public health messaging.
00:37:03.000 Him with all of his bleach and all of his, and all of his talking about masks and how he was screwing it up.
00:37:07.000 And the only forces saving America were the CDC and the FDA.
00:37:10.000 I would just like to point something out here.
00:37:12.000 I cannot name a thing I think that CDC and the FDA did right.
00:37:15.000 During this entire pandemic, the CDC blew it on masking at the very beginning.
00:37:18.000 The FDA blew it on testing at the very beginning.
00:37:21.000 The FDA then proceeded to hold up the testing on the vaccines, costing us precious weeks of time in which people were getting COVID at extraordinary rates.
00:37:28.000 And now the FDA is making a move that is beyond... The CDC has been politicized thoroughly.
00:37:33.000 You got Rochelle Walensky out there saying, we should open the schools.
00:37:36.000 And then the minute that Joe Biden says he doesn't want the schools open, she reverses herself and she says the schools really shouldn't be open.
00:37:41.000 Meanwhile, you've got people like Anthony Fauci out there Suggesting routinely that vaccines are overrated.
00:37:47.000 Seriously, what has our nation's federal public health infrastructure actually done that is good?
00:37:53.000 Can you name it?
00:37:55.000 Throughout the pandemic, can you name those things?
00:37:57.000 Because I'm waiting to hear examples of it.
00:37:59.000 The latest example of the federal government absolutely blowing it in an extraordinary way is that the U.S., the FDA, and the CDC have now said they're going to stop using the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
00:38:10.000 And now, why in the world would they do this?
00:38:13.000 We have millions of those doses going out.
00:38:14.000 In fact, we have something like 6.8 million Americans, 7 million Americans, who have taken doses of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
00:38:22.000 It is a very effective vaccine.
00:38:23.000 It is a one-shot vaccine.
00:38:24.000 It is not a two-shot vaccine, which means that you can trash it out really, really quickly.
00:38:28.000 It's about 80% effective, as opposed to like the 95%, 90-95% that you get from Pfizer or Moderna.
00:38:33.000 So why exactly are they stopping the Johnson & Johnson shots?
00:38:36.000 I kid you not.
00:38:37.000 Here's the New York Times reporting.
00:38:39.000 Federal health agencies on Tuesday called for an immediate pause in use of Johnson & Johnson's single-dose COVID vaccine after six recipients in the United States developed a rare disorder involving blood clots within about two weeks of vaccination.
00:38:51.000 All six recipients were women between the ages of 18 and 48.
00:38:53.000 One woman died.
00:38:54.000 A second woman in Nebraska has been hospitalized in critical condition.
00:38:58.000 Nearly 7 million people in the United States have received Johnson & Johnson shots so far.
00:39:04.000 So, we are shutting down the distribution of vaccine that has now been put in the arms of 7 million people because 6 people got a condition. 6!
00:39:14.000 So that means that basically your chances of ending up with this blood clot, if indeed the vaccine causes the blood clot, because we don't know yet, right?
00:39:22.000 It could be a complicating factor.
00:39:24.000 If the vaccine causes the blood clot in some rare way, how rare is this?
00:39:28.000 Well, the chances of being struck by lightning in the United States are about one in 500,000.
00:39:32.000 So this would be about the chance of being struck by lightning two times, right?
00:39:36.000 Or at least the chance of being struck by lightning, but like it's half that chance.
00:39:43.000 So I don't even know what the statistical equivalent of that is.
00:39:46.000 This is insane.
00:39:49.000 I mean, crazy towns.
00:39:52.000 The notion that you are shutting down the distribution of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine because your chances are one in over a million of getting a blood clot, You want to talk about creating a bubble society?
00:40:03.000 And by the way, there are downside risks here.
00:40:04.000 If you don't get the vaccine, you're significantly more likely to die of COVID, particularly if you're in a vulnerable group.
00:40:09.000 If you're an obese lady who's 35 and you don't get the vaccine, what do you think is more likely?
00:40:13.000 You're going to die of the blood clot or you're going to die of COVID?
00:40:16.000 This is insane!
00:40:17.000 But the federal government is doing this because they are ridiculous.
00:40:20.000 Because our public health messaging on these vaccines has been absolute horse crap.
00:40:25.000 Absolute garbage.
00:40:27.000 According to the New York Times, we are recommending a pause in the use of this vaccine out of an abundance of caution.
00:40:31.000 Your abundance of caution is not cautious.
00:40:33.000 It's reckless.
00:40:34.000 It is reckless to tell millions that there are nine million doses waiting to go out right now.
00:40:38.000 It is reckless to tell people they should not get the vaccine because of a one in one million chance they might get a blood clot.
00:40:45.000 But the FDA, Dr. Peter Marks says, right now, these adverse events appear to be extremely rare, but we're pausing out of an abundance of caution.
00:40:52.000 That is not cautious.
00:40:54.000 COVID is running rampant in Michigan right now.
00:40:57.000 In fact, Christine Whitmer has been begging for there to be more COVID vaccine from Johnson & Johnson in her state.
00:41:04.000 And you're telling, we're going to hold this up because, you know, you might get struck by an alien landing craft or something.
00:41:11.000 You never know.
00:41:13.000 While the move was framed as a recommendation to health practitioners in the states, the federal government is expected to pause administration of the vaccine at all federally run vaccination sites.
00:41:21.000 Federal officials expect that state health officials will take this as a strong signal to do the same.
00:41:26.000 Scientists with the FDA and CDC will jointly examine possible links between the vaccine and the disorder and determine whether the FDA should continue to authorize use of the vaccine for all adults or limit the authorization.
00:41:35.000 Again, the FDA and the CDC have been awful throughout this pandemic.
00:41:38.000 This is something that I know we've been ignoring because we're supposed to pretend the federal government is good at this.
00:41:42.000 They suck.
00:41:43.000 The federal government has been garbage at this.
00:41:44.000 If the FDA had accelerated trials on these COVID vaccines...
00:41:49.000 Little-known fact.
00:41:49.000 Do you know when the coding was done for the mRNA vaccine that was eventually used to kill COVID?
00:41:56.000 Do you know when that was coded?
00:41:58.000 January of 2020.
00:42:00.000 January.
00:42:00.000 Okay, before people even knew that this thing was going to be a global pandemic in the United States, there was already coding for the mRNA vaccine.
00:42:07.000 It then took 9, 10 months to develop this thing and run it through all the FDA trials.
00:42:13.000 If they had accelerated it by even 3 weeks, how many lives would have been saved?
00:42:17.000 But the FDA is here to save you guys.
00:42:18.000 The FDA is what you do.
00:42:21.000 It's ridiculous.
00:42:22.000 The CDC and the FDA have been a garbage show all throughout this.
00:42:25.000 But you're supposed to trust your government doctors.
00:42:27.000 They know all.
00:42:29.000 It's unclear whether the pause in the use of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine will upset the Biden administration's plans to deliver enough vaccine to be able to inoculate all adults in the United States by the end of May, says the New York Times, or whether the demand will be made up by other manufacturers.
00:42:43.000 This is absurd at the highest level.
00:42:45.000 Everybody with any brain understands how absurd this is.
00:42:48.000 In Washington, D.C., they canceled every Johnson & Johnson vaccine appointment from April 13th to 17th.
00:42:53.000 Great idea, guys.
00:42:54.000 It's going great.
00:42:55.000 The FDA put out a series of tweets.
00:42:58.000 It said, as of 4-12, April 12th, 6.8 million plus doses of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine have been administered.
00:43:04.000 The CDC and FDA are reviewing data involving six reported cases.
00:43:08.000 Treatment of this specific type of blood clot is different from the treatment that might be typically administered.
00:43:13.000 CDC will convene a meeting of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices on Wednesday to further review these cases and assess their potential significance.
00:43:19.000 You know, you might have wanted to, I don't know, call that meeting before you announced a complete shutdown on the vaccine that is going out to millions of Americans right now.
00:43:27.000 But this is all part and parcel of the insane overzealousness and ridiculous caution that is actually reckless by our public health officials.
00:43:36.000 I mean, Anthony Fauci said yesterday that after you're vaccinated, you still should not go and eat and drink indoors.
00:43:42.000 Screw off, dude.
00:43:43.000 There is no data to suggest this.
00:43:45.000 None.
00:43:45.000 OK, Anthony Fauci is just saying he's pulling this stuff directly out of his colon.
00:43:50.000 It's amazing that this person is a well-respected public figure.
00:43:53.000 Eating and drinking indoors in restaurants and bars, is that OK now?
00:43:59.000 No, it's still not okay for the simple reason that the level of infection, the dynamics of infection in the community are still really disturbingly high.
00:44:08.000 And if you are vaccinated, please remember that you still have to be careful and not get involved in crowded situations, particularly indoors where people are not wearing masks.
00:44:21.000 This is just horse crap!
00:44:23.000 Once you are vaccinated, your chances of passing this thing on to another person are so low that the CDC itself has said that if you're in a room with another person who has COVID and you end up symptomatic, you don't have to quarantine.
00:44:36.000 What the hell are you talking about?
00:44:38.000 These vaccines are so effective that they prevent virtually all serious disease and death.
00:44:42.000 And yet you're saying that I can't go to a restaurant?
00:44:44.000 No one's listening to this crap anymore.
00:44:46.000 And when you downplay the effect of the vaccine, you end up with people being like, so what the hell is the point of me taking this thing?
00:44:50.000 We don't have any longitudinal testing on it.
00:44:52.000 So why exactly when I take a vaccine where it doesn't even solve any problems in my life?
00:44:57.000 But Anthony Fauci, again, this abundance of caution approach began with, we're gonna shut down all industry in the United States for a year and just blow out the government dollar, which in fact is not caution, it's recklessness.
00:45:07.000 Then it turned into, we're going to shut down the vaccine distribution out of caution, which is recklessness because people need the vaccine.
00:45:12.000 Now it's, you can't go back to restaurants and revive American industry out of abundance of caution.
00:45:17.000 It's not caution.
00:45:18.000 There's a point where your caution becomes recklessness.
00:45:21.000 There's a point where your definition of caution becomes such a reckless insanity that you are destroying people's lives and putting them at further health risk.
00:45:28.000 That is where we are right now.
00:45:30.000 When Anthony Fauci says we can't be declaring victory prematurely, you know what the danger is right now?
00:45:34.000 That you're going to declare loss forever.
00:45:36.000 That is the danger.
00:45:38.000 The danger is when you tell people they have to stay in their house no matter what.
00:45:40.000 You're destroying American society.
00:45:42.000 You're destroying the economy.
00:45:43.000 And, by the way, when it comes to things like this vaccine, you're actually destroying people's ability to get the vaccine they need.
00:45:50.000 And yet people still trust our public health officials.
00:45:52.000 Amazing, amazing stuff.
00:45:53.000 You know who got us out of this pandemic?
00:45:55.000 Private pharmaceutical companies.
00:45:57.000 Big Pharma and the states.
00:45:58.000 That's who got us out of this pandemic.
00:45:59.000 Not the feds, not the FDA, not the CDC.
00:46:03.000 Alrighty, we'll be back here later today with an additional hour of content.
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