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00:00:27.000Okay, so let us begin with where we now stand on COVID.
00:00:30.000It is perfectly clear at this point that the case numbers are starting to alleviate in places like Texas and Arizona.
00:00:36.000I'm looking at a chart from the New York Times right now, and what it is showing is that there is a leveling off that is beginning to happen in a variety of states.
00:00:44.000According to this particular New York Times study, cases per capita, where new cases are mostly the same.
00:00:52.000California, over the last 14 days, mostly the same.
00:00:56.000New Jersey, New York, mostly the same.
00:01:05.000They're still increasing in some places like Florida and Arizona.
00:01:08.000But again, that is because death usually comes, you know, within 7 to 14 days after diagnosis if you are going to die from COVID.
00:01:17.000Even in areas where it seems like the cases are increasing over the last 14 days, over the last 7 they seem to be decreasing.
00:01:22.000So Texas is starting to see a bit of a drop-off.
00:01:25.000If you look at the chart from the New York Times, you can see that Florida is experiencing a bit of a drop-off.
00:01:30.000They had a very sharp spike, and now they are beginning to recede.
00:01:33.000So, in terms of hospitalization rates, in terms of ICUs, fewer people are being hospitalized who have it.
00:01:38.000Fewer people who end up in the hospital are going to the ICU.
00:01:40.000Fewer people who are going to the ICU are dying.
00:01:42.000And what this means is that overall, the death rates from this thing seem to be dropping fairly precipitously.
00:01:47.000Now, that doesn't mean that it isn't highly deadly.
00:01:49.000It is significantly more deadly than the flu by most available estimates.
00:01:53.000According to the Wall Street Journal, six months into the pandemic, researchers are homing in on an answer to one of the basic questions about the virus.
00:02:00.000Researchers initially analyzing data from outbreaks on cruise ships, and more recently from surveys of thousands of people in virus hotspots, have now conducted dozens of studies trying to calculate the infection fatality rate of COVID-19.
00:02:11.000That research suggests COVID-19 kills from around 0.3% to 1.5% of people infected.
00:02:16.000But the generality of studies is between 0.5% and 1%.
00:02:20.000Now, it's important to look at the date estimates on these things.
00:02:23.000The ones that have been done later tend to skew in favor of a lower death rate.
00:02:27.000So the ones that are done in May tend to skew between 0.5% and 1%.
00:02:30.000There are a bevy of studies from May and June that actually show this thing well below 1%, actually well below 0.5%.
00:02:38.000There are a couple studies that may show this actually even in the realm of the flu, but most studies basically put this thing in between 0.5% and 0.8%, which is pretty much what I've been suggesting for a very long time.
00:02:48.000This thing is not 0.1, it's probably between 0.2 and 0.6, I think has been my sort of stated estimate of the number of people who get this who die.
00:02:55.000Now, again, that includes all of the above 80-year-olds who get it.
00:02:58.000And there, the infection fatality rate is a lot higher.
00:03:01.000So when you remove people who are in the nursing homes, people who are uniquely vulnerable to this thing, then you're talking about maybe three cases in a thousand in terms of people who die from this thing.
00:03:11.000Okay, so that is really what you're talking about for people who are below the age of 65.
00:03:14.000It's an infection fatality rate that probably is somewhere around three in one thousand people who get it will die, which seems like not an extraordinary rate.
00:03:24.000Or at least an extraordinary rate high enough to say that you have to shut down the entire society for all time ad infinitum until a vaccine is found.
00:03:31.000We all take risk mitigation steps in American life and internationally.
00:03:35.000We all have to figure out what are the sort of things that are worth shutting down an entire society.
00:03:39.000So we don't shut down society for the flu, obviously, nor should we.
00:03:43.000The infection fatality rate on flu is about 1 in 1,000 people who get it will die of the flu every year.
00:03:48.000It's a 0.1% infection fatality rate for the flu.
00:03:52.000So if it's 3 in 1,000 as opposed to 1 in 1,000, is that now high enough that you shut down the entire society?
00:03:57.000Now if you're talking about something like Ebola, then you're talking about like 5% of people who... Actually, sorry.
00:04:03.000If you're talking about Ebola, the infection fatality rate on Ebola is like way higher, or SARS, or MERS.
00:04:10.000If you're looking at various death rates on these diseases, then some of these diseases have death rates that are like 10, 20, 50%.
00:04:17.000Then, of course, if it were to spread through the population, you have the Black Plague.
00:04:23.000But if you're talking about the difference between one person in a thousand dying and three people in a thousand dying of a disease, that is not the kind of infection fatality rate that necessitates shutting down an entire society.
00:04:32.000So if you're comparing diseases by infection fatality rate, right?
00:04:36.000Ebola, for example, has an infection fatality rate, a disease fatality rate up to 70%.
00:04:40.000Like if you get it, you're going to die, basically.
00:04:43.000That is not in any way the same thing as COVID.
00:04:46.000This is important stuff because it is going to necessitate how we think about policy.
00:04:50.000It's going to necessitate how we think about policy when it comes to reopening schools, where the infection fatality rate is way lower than that.
00:04:55.000Because again, if you're a kid, the chances you're dying from this thing are much lower.
00:04:59.000Like, as in like a multiple lower than the flu.
00:05:02.000If you're under the age of five, there's, I believe, a 16 times higher chance you die of the flu than you die from COVID.
00:05:08.000So this should inform our thinking, but it seems like everybody is sort of determined to panic at this point.
00:05:14.000And they're using some data that suggests that we should be very concerned, but I don't think any of the data suggests panic at this point.
00:05:21.000The widespread panic you're seeing, the media's alarmism suggesting that we're right back where we were in March and April.
00:05:26.000No, we are not right back where we were in March and April.
00:05:28.000In March and April, we were seeing nearly 3,000 people a day die.
00:05:31.000Right now, we are seeing an uptick, a significant uptick from a couple of weeks ago.
00:05:35.000A couple of weeks ago, we were seeing somewhere between 600 and 800 people a day die.
00:05:39.000Today, we are seeing somewhere between 900 and 1,100 people die a day.
00:05:42.000So an uptick of about 300 people dying every day.
00:05:46.000There's also a country of 330 million people, and every day in the United States, in a normal circumstance, you have 7,500 people die every single day in the United States.
00:05:54.000So a differential of 300 people dying a day, while tragic and horrifying, is that enough to shut down the entire society?
00:06:02.000I don't think so, particularly when we have mitigating steps that we can take, like wearing masks and social distancing, which means the best thing we can do right now is get back to work, wear masks, socially distance.
00:06:10.000If you are, in effect, a person who is uniquely vulnerable, then try to stay home as much as possible and don't go to crowded areas.
00:06:17.000But that's exactly the same thing I've been advocating for literally months at this point.
00:06:21.000And yet what the media are suggesting is the only solution here is full-on lockdowns.
00:06:25.000As we're going to see, the evidence that lockdowns are what actually brought down the infection fatality rate or that lockdowns really prevented the complete destruction of societies...
00:06:34.000The evidence on that is fairly scanty.
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00:08:16.000This is a point I was making last week that people were deliberately attempting to misinterpret because I said it very clearly.
00:08:21.000People react in rational fashion to risk assessments.
00:08:24.000So, if there's a large amount of infection in your community, you are much more likely to wear a mask than if you are living in rural Texas.
00:08:31.000What that means is that once people see the risk materialize, then they start to take action.
00:08:34.000And this has been true with regards to COVID lockdowns.
00:08:36.000So the government was like, well, we gotta lock this stuff down.
00:08:38.000We gotta lock it down right the hell now.
00:08:46.000People stopped going out to public places.
00:08:48.000People started wearing masks before the mandates kicked in.
00:08:51.000Human beings have a very powerful amygdala, a very powerful fear response that encourages them To take measures to prevent their own death.
00:09:01.000And I think we can rely on that for most people to actually be smart enough to protect themselves and the people who are directly around them.
00:09:07.000In Britain, this has become a major controversy because Chris Whitty, who is one of the chief medical, he's the chief medical officer for England.
00:09:15.000He said that the lockdowns probably are not what caused the decline in the curve in Britain.
00:09:21.000He says the decline in the curve began before the lockdowns.
00:09:23.000You see this with masking in a lot of areas, that the declines began before the masking.
00:09:28.000Because people were taking responsible action before the mandates came in.
00:09:32.000So this bizarre notion that everything has to be government top-down, and that if the government doesn't act, then nobody will, the evidence on that is pretty scanty overall.
00:09:43.000And as we say, if you watch the media coverage right now, the media's like, you should be panicked.
00:09:47.000You should be panicked about the caseload rising.
00:10:17.000According to NPR, after a sudden surge in reported COVID-19 cases beginning at the end of June, Houston's daily case counts and hospital admission rates seem to be leveling off.
00:10:27.000Health officials say they are not ready to determine if the data are statistically significant yet, but it's a positive trend.
00:10:31.000Last Friday, experts were ringing alarm bells.
00:10:34.000David Peirce, Health Authority for Houston's Health Department said, I just want to put in perspective for those folks who don't see what the issue is.
00:10:39.000In your experience, you may not know anybody who's sick.
00:10:41.000You may not know anybody who's died yet.
00:10:50.000It's beginning to recede in the case count in Florida.
00:10:53.000Houston hospitals are not overwhelmed.
00:10:55.000The ICU occupancy in the vast majority of states is below 80%.
00:11:00.000There are almost no states where it is above 85%, which means that we have actually not threatened the health systems of the United States at this point.
00:11:10.000But you probably don't know that from watching the media.
00:11:11.000If you watch the media, then basically everybody's going to die.
00:11:14.000And if we don't force people to stay at home, everybody's going to die.
00:11:16.000And not only that, Republicans are responsible for everybody dying.
00:11:24.000If you look at the number of infections that have been detected over the past couple of weeks, what you see is a line that looks arithmetic in its growth.
00:12:34.000The idea that we are back at New York levels, New York epidemic levels, where 1,000 people a day were dying in New York alone.
00:12:42.000We're not there, nor are we likely to be there.
00:12:45.000States that have been heavily criticized like California, states that have been heavily criticized like Texas and Florida, really, those are states that are experiencing at their height like 140, 150 deaths a day, Which is not good, right?
00:13:06.000They're not going to increase the levels of New York.
00:13:08.000You're not going to see a thousand deaths a day in Florida.
00:13:10.000You're not going to see a thousand deaths a day in Texas, particularly because the thing has already started to recede in a lot of these states.
00:13:17.000But the media are invested in a particular narrative, and the narrative is that everything is going wrong and we are all screwed.
00:13:22.000The narrative is basically the Nancy Pelosi narrative.
00:13:24.000Right, Nancy Pelosi is now calling COVID the Trump virus, which is just, so you're not allowed to call it the Chinese virus, because if you say that it came from China, that means you're a racist, but she's allowed to state it's the Trump virus, even though it has killed hundreds of thousands of people all over the world, did not originate in the United States, and was centralized mainly in democratic states where the governors did a crap job, like Phil Murphy in New Jersey, and like Andrew Cuomo in New York.
00:13:44.000But apparently it's all Trump's fault.
00:13:46.000I swear, the sort of political idiocy of suggesting, the moral idiocy of suggesting that it's the quote unquote Trump virus, is beyond the pale, but that's what Nancy Pelosi does. Here she was.
00:14:06.000If he had said months ago, let's wear masks, let's socially distance instead of having rallies and political whatever they were, then more people would have followed his lead as the President of the United States.
00:14:21.000So what you're saying is that thousands of Americans have died because of what the President has done or not done?
00:14:33.000It's clearly evident that if the president had done what exactly?
00:14:36.000Like really, what was the president supposed to do that he did not do?
00:14:39.000I'm livid with the Trump campaign, frankly, that they've not put out a commercial just showing all the various governors from Whitmer to Jay Inslee to Andrew Cuomo to Gavin Newsom saying openly and positively that Trump gave them what they need, which is true, which is true.
00:14:53.000Again, Trump's done a horrible job in terms of the optics of COVID.
00:14:55.000But in terms of the actual policy of COVID, Other than he didn't put on a mask himself.
00:15:01.000What exactly is the big critique here?
00:15:03.000Like seriously, what's the big critique?
00:15:04.000We lost a couple of months because the CDC didn't do its damn job and get the tests ready and turned down testing from other places.
00:15:10.000We are now doing more tests a day than any place on the planet.
00:15:43.000Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, who on Fox News said, there are more important things than living.
00:15:49.000In other words, let's get on with the dying, knowing full well that it will be those frontline workers making $7.25 an hour, which is a minimum wage in Texas.
00:15:57.000It will be African Americans, it will be Latinos and Mexican Americans, who will be doing the dying right here in Texas.
00:16:37.000I think you can mitigate the risk and get that number down from 3 in 1,000 to maybe 1 in 1,000 or maybe you make it so that fewer people are infected with the masks and with the social distancing.
00:16:46.000But if Beto O'Rourke's idea is that we are supposed to cower in our house until the end of time, then he's just rooting for chaos.
00:16:51.000And it feels like there are a lot of people who are rooting for chaos at this point.
00:16:53.000I don't think Kayleigh McEnany, the White House press secretary, is wrong when she says members of the media are trying to scare you.
00:16:58.000If you watch the media coverage, all you have seen is that the caseload is rising across the United States.
00:17:23.0006 in 10 Americans say they wear a mask every time they go out of the house right now.
00:17:27.000And that is true in red states as well as blue states.
00:17:30.000Most Americans are being careful about how they act here.
00:17:33.000Okay, but the media are indeed trying to alarm everybody, and then they downplay any good news, right?
00:17:38.000I mean, there have been actual headlines saying that, you know, the death rate from COVID is down, fewer people are dying as infections rise, but we shouldn't consider that good news.
00:17:45.000Why should we not consider that good news?
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00:19:31.000Okay, so, yesterday, President Trump Re-upped his daily press conferences.
00:19:36.000He decided to go out there and do his press conferences again.
00:19:38.000The reason that he had stopped doing them is because he kept going out there and saying weird things during his press conference, to put it mildly.
00:19:44.000Suggesting that if you shine a UV light up your butt or something that it was going to cure COVID.
00:19:48.000But with that said, the president does need to show leadership because that's apparently all the media care about.
00:19:53.000Andrew Cuomo could be the garbage, the most garbage governor in America, which by the way, by evidence he is.
00:19:59.000But as long as he was going out there and acting like a leader on TV, that's all that mattered to folks.
00:20:06.000So Trump going back out there and acting like a leader is fairly necessary here.
00:20:09.000Trump came out yesterday and said, listen, it'll probably get worse before it gets better.
00:20:12.000That's true in terms of the deaths, right?
00:20:14.000Because again, death is a trailing indicator.
00:20:16.000So if you've seen a rise in cases over the past two weeks, even if it's receded in places like Texas, Florida, and Arizona right now, that means that you will see some escalating death rates for probably the next week, week and a half.
00:20:27.000Are those escalating death rates going to bring us to New York rates?
00:21:11.000Does that mean people will now lay off of him?
00:21:13.000And suggest that, no, it means that they're gonna say, why didn't he say wear a mask earlier?
00:21:16.000If only he had said wear a mask earlier, this would have ended all of this stuff.
00:21:20.000Again, the fact is, the United States has adopted mask-wearing for months, at a higher rate than most of Northern Europe, for example.
00:21:26.000We wear masks in the United States at a higher rate than Canada does.
00:21:29.000And mask-wearing across the United States, you can't just aggregate the stats.
00:21:33.000You can't just say that mask-wearing in New York is exactly like mask-wearing in the middle of rural Kansas, because those are two very different areas.
00:21:39.000If you're in the middle of a place where people are naturally socially distanced, you don't have to wear a mask as often.
00:21:44.000So kind of aggregating that stat doesn't make a whole hell of a lot of sense.
00:21:47.000In any case, here's President Trump saying, yeah, you know, just go ahead and put on a mask.
00:21:50.000Young adults may often have mild or even no symptoms.
00:22:49.000My administration currently has zero unfilled requests for, unfulfilled requests for, uh...
00:22:58.000Equipment or anything else that they need from the governor's no governor needs anything right now, and we think we'll have it that way Till the end because frankly we are stocked up and ready to go wherever we have to go we've nearly 7,000 National Guard and military medical personnel in Texas, California, Florida and Arizona that's helping us greatly The media won't cover that.
00:23:21.000The media won't cover the fact that hospitals have not been overwhelmed, the fact that death rates have gone down, and the fact that the feds have given people what they need.
00:23:25.000Because that would suggest that things are kind of working.
00:23:30.000And by the way, we are going to have to make some tough decisions about how we live our lives.
00:23:33.000Because for all the talk about vaccine development, Vaccine companies are testifying they may, may have a vaccine ready to go in six months, which means that for the general public, it may not be ready.
00:23:44.000It may not be ready until at least the middle of 2021 and maybe the tail end of 2021.
00:23:49.000You think we're fully locking down like LA is talking about again for a second time?
00:23:53.000You think we're fully locking down all the way till the end of 2021 for a disease that has a death rate in people who are not The elderly of three in 1,000.
00:24:01.000You think that's a thing that people are going to go along with forever?
00:24:30.000And it turns out that we make risk mitigation efforts every day, and we take into account risks, and then we act.
00:24:35.000And here is a vaccine CEO explaining to Congress that, yeah, maybe we'll have one in six months, maybe not.
00:24:42.000According to statements from several of the companies testifying today, and based on the speed at which they are progressing through clinical trials, it is possible that a COVID-19 vaccine may become available by the end of this year or early next year.
00:24:57.000That's a rare bit of good news in this harrowing time.
00:25:00.000But while some public health experts are bullish on the development of a vaccine, we must remind ourselves that plenty can still go wrong.
00:25:10.000Okay, and this would be something to keep in mind, because you've been told that you gotta lock down forever, or you're gonna die, and that ain't true.
00:25:18.000Alrighty, in just a second, we're gonna get to the rooting for chaos, which doesn't just exist in the level of COVID, although it's most clear there.
00:25:24.000It exists maybe more clearly when it comes to public safety.
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00:27:00.000We got chaos all over the country as the idiot defund the police crowd and their Democratic media allies have made cities across the United States significantly less safe for American citizens.
00:27:10.000Well, in Portland, basically the media ignored for two months, for two rolling months, they ignored the chaos in Portland.
00:27:17.000I mean, Antifa has basically been running the center of the city at the behest of Mayor Ted Wheeler for years.
00:27:23.000Andy Ngo, a friend of the program, he's been reporting on this.
00:27:26.000He's been beaten up for his trouble in Portland for reporting on the fact that Antifa would do things like stopping drivers in the middle of the street in broad daylight, and the authorities were told not to do anything.
00:27:35.000Well, basically, the media had a strategy with Portland.
00:27:37.000We're going to ignore all the chaos, because we kind of like Antifa, up until the point the feds come in, at which point we will pretend the feds are the aggressors.
00:27:44.000That's been the narrative promulgated by the media.
00:27:47.000The only reason to do that is because you are rooting for chaos.
00:27:50.000And you're rooting for chaos because you think it's going to get rid of Trump.
00:27:52.000The more chaos there is, the more you think that Trump will go.
00:27:55.000I cannot come up with any other explanation for this.
00:27:57.000Because if a Democrat were president, he presumably would not be rooting for chaos in this way.
00:28:02.000Okay, Mike Baker reporting for the New York Times.
00:28:04.000With a ski helmet and goggles on her head, Alison Heider recounted how she had told relatives she planned to stand at the rear of protests in downtown Portland.
00:28:10.000But in the early hours of Tuesday, the grandmother of five found herself right up front, locking arms with other mothers dressed in yellow.
00:28:16.000So the media have been running cover for all of these kind of protest moms who are standing up front of the protests.
00:28:23.000And then they've been ignoring the fact that the protesters are setting up barricades and burning crap, like literally setting things on fire.
00:28:29.000And resisting federal officers and local officers.
00:28:32.000But we have to focus in on naked Athena, the weird naked lady doing yoga poses, standing as a symbol of freedom against these brutal tyrants.
00:28:40.000We have to focus in on the moms, the moms.
00:28:42.000First of all, let me just say to you, you Antifa protesters out there, if you're calling your mommy because you're too much of a pansy to actually just take the brunt of what you're dishing out, you have to call your mommy to stand as your human shield.
00:29:24.000The demonstrations that have shuddered through Portland for 54 consecutive nights have drawn out a complicated mix of grievances, says the New York Times, with a wide array of people expressing them using a multitude of tactics to make sure they get hurt.
00:29:35.000Oh, it's just a way of getting heard, guys!
00:29:37.000You see, if anti-lockdown protesters like to show up and say things, then they're bad racist people who are endangering other people.
00:29:43.000If you show up to a federal courthouse and try to burn it down, that's just your way of being heard.
00:29:49.000And if you call your mommy to protect you, that's because you're so brave!
00:29:51.000Because really, these protesters, they're all 60-year-old moms.
00:29:54.000They're not a bunch of woke white kids who are living in their parents' basement and masturbating to anime.
00:30:00.000In Oregon, a state with a deep history of racism that included racial exclusion laws extending into the 20th century, the Portland protests have persisted since George Floyd's killing, even as BLM demonstrations have waned in many other parts of the country.
00:30:12.000Okay, alternatively, Antifa's been making trouble in this area for literally years on end.
00:30:16.000Some leaders in the black community, grateful for a widespread discussion on race, worry that what should be a moment for racial justice in Portland could be squandered by violence.
00:30:46.000Are you okay with the chaos that you are seeing in the streets of Portland?
00:30:48.000Apparently, the answer is yes, because so long as you can just rip on Trump, everything is good to go.
00:30:53.000Here's Governor Kate Brown being a horrible public servant.
00:30:56.000A horrible public servant, but again, she's not serving the public.
00:30:59.000She's serving her own political interests and the interests of her party.
00:31:02.000When I spoke to the Secretary of Homeland Security last week, I told them to go home, that their forces are not needed here, they are not wanted here, and they're making a challenging situation worse.
00:31:17.000As I said, the violence is absolutely unacceptable.
00:31:20.000We're talking about outliers in terms of protesters.
00:31:25.000But in Oregon, you know, we solve problems by sitting down.
00:31:29.000We solve problems by de-escalating a situation and engaging in dialogue.
00:31:35.000What in the F is this lady talking about?
00:31:36.000There have been rolling riots in her cities for 54 straight days.
00:31:41.000She sounds exactly like the mayor of...
00:31:43.000Seattle, Jenny Durkin, who sort of whistled past the graveyard on CHOP up until the point where people started getting shot to death in the middle of her major city.
00:32:04.000He's been pretty careful about what he says on this sort of stuff because he doesn't want to appear like a radical.
00:32:10.000But what he has said on what's going on in Portland is truly insane.
00:32:14.000He assailed President Trump and his administration for, quote, brutally attacking peaceful protesters and using egregious tactics in response to recent demonstrations in Portland, Oregon.
00:32:24.000He said, we have a president who is determined to sow chaos and division to make matters worse instead of better.
00:32:29.000He said we all remember the appalling scenes in front of the White House when peaceful protesters were gassed to make way for a Trump photo op.
00:32:36.000Now, Homeland Security agents, without a clearly defined mandate or authority, are ranging far from federal property, stripped of badges and insignia and identifying markings to detain people.
00:32:44.000They are brutally attacking peaceful protesters, including a U.S.
00:32:54.000If you look at their shoulders, they have insignia that explain which branch of the government they are from.
00:32:58.000In fact, here is a DHS official yesterday cracking back on Joe Biden's idiot statements here.
00:33:05.000The fact is, not only is there statutory authority for what the feds are doing right here, they are identifying themselves and they do have the authority to do it.
00:33:12.000Here is a DHS official explaining yesterday.
00:33:14.000This is the identification every single one of them has on their uniform.
00:33:26.000That's another thing that's absolutely disgusting.
00:33:29.000So they're not only jeopardizing the lives of the agents, but they're also jeopardizing the lives of their families as they're putting out their home information and they're suggesting that individuals go to their homes.
00:33:40.000So yes, I, as the acting commissioner, have authorized and supported removing their names from their uniform.
00:33:47.000Instead, what we have, though, is a personal identifier.
00:33:50.000Okay, so he is correct about this, but we've heard from Biden that it's the fascists in the streets, the jackboots in the streets.
00:33:57.000Kayleigh McEnany over at the White House yesterday, she said, by the way, we do have statutory authority for this.
00:34:02.000There's statutory authority to assist the Department of Homeland Security by shifting forces from, for example, Customs and Border Patrol.
00:34:10.000Idiot Jamal Bowie at the New York Times, of course, has a piece talking about how this is just awful and a violation of all law.
00:34:16.000He admits, by the way, in his column that there is lawful authority to do all this stuff and lots of precedent.
00:34:21.000He says the difference lies less in the acts themselves than in the way these events developed.
00:34:25.000Use of military force against strikers and protesters is certainly controversial, but for the most part, it unfolds along clear lines of responsibility and involves powers expressly granted to the president.
00:34:35.000Okay, the president does have the ability under the Insurrection Act to call in federal forces to quell exactly this sort of activity.
00:34:42.000There have been no constitutional allegations of violations.
00:34:45.000Jamal Bowie just doesn't like it because Trump's doing it and because he is sympathetic to the goals of the people who are militating in favor of chaos.
00:34:52.000This is a secretive nationwide police force, created without congressional input or authorization, formed from highly politicized agencies.
00:34:58.000Highly politicized agencies, by the way, according to Jamel Buie, means agencies where people are sympathetic to Trump.
00:35:05.000So the State Department, which is very much a left-leaning department, not highly politicized.
00:35:10.000ICE, because there are a lot of people who support Trump, highly politicized, according to Jamel Buie, which means they're bad, which means they're a tyrannical wing of the U.S.
00:35:19.000Yes, in fact, there is legal authority to do this.
00:35:21.000What you're referring to is Portland and 40 U.S.
00:35:23.000Code 1315 gives DHS the ability to deputize officers in any department or agency like ICE, Customs and Border Patrol, and Secret Service, quote, as officers and agents.
00:35:34.000They can be deputized for the duty of in connection with the protection of property owned or occupied by the federal government and persons on that property.
00:35:41.000And when a federal courthouse is being Lit on fire, commercial fireworks being shot at it, being shot at the officers.
00:35:47.000I think that that falls pretty well within the limits of 40 U.S.
00:36:06.000The chaos is good for them politically, and they are happy to castigate, as Gestapo, members of federal law enforcement, who are identified as such.
00:36:15.000At this point, you have to say these are folks in the Democratic Party, in the media, promulgating this narrative who do not care about law-abiding citizens.
00:36:21.000They're willing to abandon law-abiding citizens in favor of rioters and looters.
00:36:25.000So I don't know where you would put them on the good-for-America scale, but I don't think it would be on the good-for-America side, particularly, because this isn't good for America.
00:36:34.000We'll get to more of this in just one second.
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00:37:54.000I haven't seen anything quite like this since the Ferguson stuff.
00:37:57.000During the Ferguson riots, there were members of the Democratic Party who were sort of rooting for it, but not this clearly.
00:38:02.000Not to the point where the president issues federal orders to shut it down, and the Democrats are overtly calling members of federal law enforcement Gestapo.
00:38:42.000American history is replete with racism and bigotry.
00:38:44.000American philosophy is rooted in brutal exploitation.
00:38:48.000American culture needs to be overturned in favor of a better vision for humanity.
00:38:51.000Disintegrationists use weapons like cancel culture, deleting or silencing people or anyone that disagrees with them to build a whole new world order.
00:38:57.000You're seeing all this play out, not just in the businesses of America, but in the streets of America.
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00:39:35.000They took out all the storylines and they just dumped it all in at once.
00:39:38.000And the media are lying to you on a regular basis, right?
00:39:41.000They're saying Portland is peaceful up until the feds got there.
00:39:43.000They're saying COVID-19 going to kill everyone unless we lock down full scale and it's the Trump virus.
00:39:47.000Well, then you can't get the real story.
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00:40:41.000All righty, so as I say, the chaos is across the country, right?
00:40:52.000Chicago is completely chaotic, which drove President Trump to say yesterday, listen, if I have to deploy federal agents to Chicago to stop the chaos, I'll deploy federal agents to Chicago to stop the chaos.
00:41:00.000Which, by the way, he probably needs to do.
00:41:59.000Oh yeah, by the way, last week, 18 police officers were injured at a Chicago quote-unquote protest.
00:42:06.000The police said that they were outnumbered and unprepared, is according to CNN.
00:42:10.000Approaching a statue of Christopher Columbus, some people in the crowd used rocks, fireworks, frozen bottles, and other objects to attack officers, according to a statement from the PD.
00:42:24.000At a news conference Saturday, activists demanded the immediate defunding of the police department.
00:42:28.000Oh yeah, and by the way, literally as Lori Lightfoot, the idiot mayor of Chicago, terrible mayor of Chicago, was talking about how she doesn't want federal law enforcement in her city, at least 16 people were shot at a Chicago funeral home.
00:42:42.000The gunfire, according to Breaking 911, broke out at the Graham Funeral Home located at 1018 West 79th Street in the city's Auburn-Gresham neighborhood.
00:42:49.000According to CBS 2, there was some kind of planned ambush outside the funeral home where a memorial service was going on for a homicide victim.
00:42:56.000Chicago Fire Department reports at least 11 victims taken to the hospital, all listed in various condition.
00:43:01.000So good times over in Chicago, but the problem, obviously, obviously is President Trump.
00:43:05.000When Trump says we need to use federal power to protect the life, liberty, and property of the citizenry of the United States, Democrats are fighting back against that.
00:43:18.000You're talking about defunding your own police, and in some areas, letting looters and rioters run roughshod through your major cities, and then you're ripping on Trump?
00:43:26.000Listen to the insane statement put out by Nancy Pelosi and Representative Earl Blumenauer of Portland, Oregon.
00:43:32.000As our nation mourns the loss of our colleague and beloved civil rights leader John Lewis, we are again reminded of the immense power of peaceful protest in the fight against racial injustice and police brutality.
00:43:40.000This is not peaceful protest in Portland.
00:43:42.000They're attempting to burn down the local courthouse every night.
00:43:51.000That is not what John Lewis did to defame John Lewis by suggesting that sitting at a segregated lunch counter in protest is the same thing as firing fireworks at a federal courthouse is patently nuts.
00:44:21.000Simpson, the night he killed his ex-wife, mostly peaceful that night.
00:44:25.000Like, for the hours between sunset and sunrise, mostly a peaceful night.
00:44:29.000It was really that like, you know, 45 minute gap right in the middle where it got really not peaceful, but most of the night was peaceful.
00:44:34.000Like, what exactly is that supposed to mean?
00:44:37.000If you want to say there's a difference between protesters and the rioters and looters, totally on board, totally agree.
00:44:41.000But then you can't just pretend that the rioting and the looting doesn't exist.
00:44:44.000Or when it does happen, say that that's part of the generalized protest and hope that we're not going to notice what you just did right there.
00:44:50.000You either have to separate the two groups or you have to conflate the two groups.
00:44:53.000You do not get to do some, sometimes one and sometimes the other, whatever floats your boat.
00:44:58.000According to Nancy Pelosi, she says, Again, the president should not have had the Park Service use tear gas to disperse peaceful protesters in Washington Square Park.
00:45:04.000Americans. Last month, the administration tear gassed peaceful protesters in Washington, D.C.
00:45:08.000Again, the president should not have had the Park Service use tear gas to disperse peaceful protesters in Washington Square Park or in Lafayette Park, rather. It is also true that, according to the Park Service, there were objects being thrown at the police officers at the time.
00:45:24.000Even if you think that was bad, that is not the same thing as we're deploying federal officers who are clearly labeled as such to enforce the law when people are violating it.
00:45:33.000Now, listen to this language from Nancy Pelosi.
00:46:58.000Well now, Danita Sinclair-Martin, the mother of Horace Lorenzo Anderson Jr., is suing the city of Seattle because city officials abandoned the six-block autonomous zone, leaving her injured and bleeding son to wait for emergency care that never arrived.
00:47:09.000The Seattle Times reports the mother of the 19-year-old Seattle man fatally shot in Chop Chaz filed a wrongful death claim against the city of Seattle, alleging city officials created a dangerous environment.
00:47:49.000When they say that this is just about Trump silencing protests, Did I miss the part where over the last eight weeks you saw literally probably tens of millions of people in the streets in the middle of a pandemic protesting and nothing happening to them?
00:48:02.000We shut down the entire city of Los Angeles, not just so that protesters could go out in violation of pandemic code, but so that protesters could turn into rioters and looters and completely ransack Melrose Boulevard.
00:48:13.000I am old enough to remember that because I'm more than four weeks old.
00:48:16.000But now Senator Kamala Harris from my state of California, she said, let's be clear what Trump is doing.
00:48:20.000He's trying to silence and punish those protesting police brutality and demanding racial justice across our country.
00:48:27.000Yesterday, I joined my colleagues on a bill to block the Trump administration from deploying paramilitary forces against Americans.
00:48:37.000And frankly, it should be a winning issue for Trump, because if the Democrats insist on embracing actual chaos and violence and labeling America's federal law enforcement Gestapo, which is what James Clyburn of South Carolina did yesterday, then I don't know what to tell you.
00:48:51.000I don't think most Americans stand with that.
00:48:54.000I think Americans are willing to virtue signal about how much they dislike the police up until the point when their property is getting burned.
00:48:59.000And at that point, they're like, oh, you know what?
00:49:01.000I think we could use the cops right now.
00:49:04.000And meanwhile, the House GOP is in a state of disarray.
00:49:09.000Like, you'd think now would be a pretty good time to be unified?
00:49:11.000Apparently not, because everything revolves around Trump.
00:49:14.000So yesterday, members of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, according to Politico, tore into Representative Liz Cheney during a heated GOP conference meeting on Tuesday, lobbing attacks at her for breaking with President Trump, supporting Dr. Anthony Fauci, and backing a primary opponent to one of their colleagues.
00:49:27.000Representative Jordan of Ohio, Freedom Caucus co-founder, one of Trump's top allies, called out Cheney, the GOP conference chair, for all the times she has opposed Trump, and began ticking off some recent high-profile examples.
00:49:36.000While Jordan praised her defense of Trump during impeachment, he also said Cheney's recent rebukes of Trump, which have focused on Trump's handling of coronavirus, Twitter rhetoric, and foreign policy, were not helpful.
00:49:45.000Representative Annie Biggs of Arizona, head of the Freedom Caucus, even accused Cheney of undermining the GOP's ability to win back the House, and said if someone has a problem with Trump, they should keep it to themselves.
00:49:54.000Cheney responded by disagreeing with Jordan's assessment, Cheney said, I look forward to hearing your comments about being a team player when we're back in the majority.
00:50:02.000Okay, if you're directing your ire at Liz Cheney for pointing out when Trump does stuff that is wrong, that's political malfeasance.
00:50:12.000I think there are two very different views on how people are going to maintain the House minority maybe win a majority.
00:50:30.000Liz Cheney drawing some distance and doing what I think is the proper thing and saying, of course, I support the president of the United States on policy, but when he says dumb things, I don't support that.
00:50:42.000And just because Trump threatens people with Twitter does not mean that the strongest strategy for senators who are up for re-election and in battleground states or House members who are in Purple District, the best strategy is to tie themselves to Trump's leg, to staple Trump to their pant leg.
00:50:55.000And if Lou Cheney provides cover to some of those members and support to some of those members so they can win those seats, that's a good thing, not a bad thing.
00:51:01.000Again, I like all the people who we're talking about right now.
00:51:03.000I'm very friendly with every single member we have talked about right now.
00:51:07.000But let's just say that if you don't have any ideological diversity inside the Republican Party with regard to Trump himself as a figure, you're doing it wrong.
00:51:14.000And President Trump himself should understand this, right?
00:51:16.000If Trump wins, he's going to want a House majority that actually supports him.
00:51:20.000If Trump wins, he's going to want senators that support him.
00:51:23.000The last thing he should be doing right now is attacking senators or House members who show insufficient loyalty, who refuse to bend the knee.
00:51:29.000I mean, and House members should not be cudgeling each other into, you have to support everything with regard to President Trump.
00:51:38.000I don't see what Liz Cheney has done wrong here.
00:51:39.000in his agenda. House Republicans deserve better in our conference chair. Liz Cheney should be, should step down or be removed. I disagree, disagree. I don't see what Liz Cheney has done wrong here. And disagreeing with the president on some of the things he has said seems frankly, like a fairly good idea when he says things that are not correct.
00:51:56.000I mean, for goodness sake, the President of the United States went out yesterday and expressed sympathy for Ghislaine Maxwell, who was the accomplice to Jeffrey Epstein, the procurer for Jeffrey Epstein.
00:52:05.000Like, are Republicans supposed to defend this?
00:52:07.000Because that seems like a bad electoral strategy to me.
00:52:09.000Here was the President yesterday saying that he wishes the best to Ghislaine Maxwell, who was, by all allegations, procuring underage girls for Jeffrey Epstein's rape.
00:52:18.000This is not a good look for the President.
00:52:43.000Okay, so, yeah, again, that is not a good look.
00:52:45.000And if Liz Cheney is like, eh, I don't like those comments, I don't think that she needs to be shellacked for something like that, obviously.
00:52:50.000And again, Republican unity does not mean that you have to be unified on everything Trump-related.
00:52:54.000It means you should be unified in the face of the big issues, like Democrats being in favor of people burning down cities.
00:52:59.000Seems like that should be a point of unity.
00:53:00.000Okay, time for a quick thing that I like.
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00:53:42.000And he goes through the statistics, using as his model all of the UN information.
00:53:46.000And that UN information talks about the warming of the climate over the course of the next hundred years.
00:53:51.000He also has the temerity to challenge a lot of the preconceived notions that are being put out there.
00:53:54.000A lot of the myths about the Amazon being the lungs of the world and how all of that is dying.
00:53:59.000The preconceived notion that weather is getting significantly more extreme because of global warming.
00:54:05.000That the costs of weather getting more extreme are due to the changing of the climate dramatically as opposed to people building in the way.
00:54:12.000One of the statistics you'll often see is hurricanes are more damaging now than they ever have been.
00:54:16.000Well, hurricanes actually are not more common now than they ever have been by data.
00:54:20.000There are some hurricanes that are more powerful, but the real reason they're more damaging is because people have built in the path of the hurricanes.
00:54:26.000There's a lot more people living in Miami now than were living in Miami in 1900, for example.
00:54:30.000He also pushes back against the notion that you're going to have millions upon millions of climate refugees, that the rise of the oceans over the course of the next hundred years is going to flood all outlying areas all over the world.
00:54:41.000He points out that there are some fairly low cost things that we can do to fight back against climate change, right? Certain things are more out there like geoengineering, right? That'd be the attempt to control the climate. But there's fairly good evidence we can do that, but we're still figuring out whether there are any downsides. That'd be firing sulfur basically in the air to create cloud cover, which would presumably lower the temperature, for example. But other things are less out there, right?
00:55:21.000And you'll never hear people in positions of power who are pushing on the global warming stuff talk about the fact that the Paris Climate Accords, if implemented in their entirety, Would lower the changed climate by the end of the century by, I believe, 0.5 degrees Celsius.
00:55:37.0000.5 degrees Celsius at the cost of trillions and trillions of dollars.
00:55:40.000Okay, but what they'll never mention is that there are certain things that we can do that are a lot cheaper that actually protect human beings.
00:55:46.000You can build better seawalls, for example.
00:56:12.000He tends to cite exactly the same folks I've cited before.
00:56:14.000William Nordhaus of Yale University just won the Economics Nobel Prize for his work on climate change.
00:56:19.000And he points out that there are costs to policy, and you have to actually look at what are the costs of global warming versus what are the costs of implementing the policy, which means that when the IPCC or the UN says we have to keep the climate from increasing by 1.5 degrees Celsius over the course of the next century, that is undoable and would be incredibly stupid.
00:56:35.000It would be actually counterproductive to do that.
00:56:36.000It would cost far more in terms of growth to the world to take the measures being talked about, essentially ending the use of carbon-based fossil fuels.
00:56:44.000It would cost much more, particularly to the developing world, than it would to just let climate change happen.
00:56:49.000And there's sort of a sweet spot in terms of how much you can lower climate change through things like carbon credits and tax bases and mitigation efforts.
00:56:59.000There's sort of a sweet spot there, and we are nowhere near the sweet spot.
00:57:01.000So when you hear the climate alarmist, when you hear Greta Thunberg suggesting that we have to basically end all life on Earth in order to prevent the end of all life on Earth, she's just speaking from a position of ignorance.
00:57:26.000In the meantime, go pick up a copy of my brand new book, How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps, surging up the charts over at Amazon and all over the United States.
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