The Ben Shapiro Show - Russell Brand DENIES Allegations

00:00:00.000 So, the news that has engulfed much of the legacy media, it's engulfed the British media for sure.

00:00:05.000 A lot of the media here in the United States is this massive exposé, supposed exposé, from the Sunday Times in the UK accusing Russell Brand, a person I consider a friend, of rape, sexual assault, and abuse from the period 2006 to 2013.

00:00:18.000 Now, I didn't know Russell Brand at that time.

00:00:22.000 My guess is if I had known Russell Brand, I wouldn't have liked Russell Brand very much at that time, considering that Russell Brand, by his own admission, in all of his writings and in all of his statements, has basically admitted to being a sect addict and incredibly promiscuous and a person who I would consider to have engaged in incredibly vile behavior during that entire period.

00:00:41.000 And then, Russell Brand has remade himself.

00:00:43.000 And in the period where I've known Russell, which is really the past three or four years, Russell has been a person who is searching for something meaningful.

00:00:50.000 He has settled down, obviously.

00:00:51.000 He's married.

00:00:51.000 He has kids.

00:00:52.000 He's a person who's been trying to put together a good life.

00:00:54.000 Now, can I attest to Russell Brand's character from 2006 to 2013?

00:00:58.000 Again, I cannot.

00:01:00.000 I did not know him at that point.

00:01:02.000 Do I think that Russell Brand today is a good person?

00:01:04.000 Yes, I think that Russell Brand today is a good person.

00:01:07.000 Now, is it possible that you're mistaken about people you think you know?

00:01:10.000 Sure, that's possible too, but here is my problem with this particular attack on Russell Brand from the media.

00:01:16.000 My problem is the timing.

00:01:18.000 During the time that Russell Brand was pretty flagrantly and obviously not only promiscuous, but incredibly vile in the sorts of things that he said publicly about sex and about women and all the rest of this sort of stuff, the media were championing him.

00:01:31.000 He was a hero of the left at this time when he was engaged in this sort of behavior.

00:01:35.000 He was He was treated as some sort of person to emulate at this time.

00:01:41.000 He was not only on BBC, he was on MTV, he was being treated as a public celebrity while he was engaging in this sort of behavior.

00:01:48.000 He was the impish devil who was having sex with as many women as humanly possible and doing insane amounts of drugs.

00:01:55.000 Now, 10 years later, when Russell Brand has fixed his life and is trying to make a better life for himself, now he gets hit with a full-scale Sunday Times expose about all of these women.

00:02:04.000 Now, we're going to go through some of the allegations with which Russell has been hit here.

00:02:09.000 Russell has denied all of the allegations.

00:02:11.000 And again, in every situation, when you're talking about like a 10-year, 15, 20-year-ago situation, it is a he said, she said.

00:02:15.000 There's just no way To verify one way or the other whether somebody is telling the truth or whether they are not absent some sort of DNA evidence and even DNA evidence isn't going to fully explain what exactly happened if a man and a woman are in a room together because consent or non-consent is a matter of behavior in the moment.

00:02:32.000 It is not something can be evidenced by physical evidence typically.

00:02:36.000 Unless you're talking about, God forbid, some sort of, like, full-on murderous rape or something.

00:02:42.000 In this particular case, what you have is a bunch of stories where women suggest that, at the time, they weren't happy, or they weren't happy afterward.

00:02:49.000 There's one allegation in particular that seems pretty serious that Russell has said that he is going to address.

00:02:54.000 Before I get to the actual allegations, the timeline here is that Russell went on his Twitter and he put out a pretty lengthy statement talking about what he saw coming.

00:03:04.000 Because apparently both the Sunday Times and Channel 4 were going around and finding dozens of women to talk to.

00:03:11.000 And it was pretty clear to him that they were going to launch this story at him.

00:03:14.000 Here is what Russell had to say just before the story launched.

00:03:17.000 Hello there you Awakening Wonders.

00:03:19.000 Now this isn't the usual type of video we make on this channel where we critique, attack and undermine the news in all its corruption, because in this story I am the news.

00:03:28.000 I've received two extremely disturbing letters, or a letter and an email.

00:03:33.000 One from a mainstream media TV company, one from a newspaper Listing a litany of extremely egregious and aggressive attacks, as well as some pretty stupid stuff like my community festival should be stopped, that I shouldn't be able to attack mainstream media narratives on this channel.

00:03:50.000 But amidst this litany of astonishing, rather baroque attacks are some very serious allegations that I absolutely refute.

00:04:01.000 These allegations pertain to the time when I was working in the mainstream, when I was in the newspapers all the time, when I was in the movies.

00:04:06.000 And as I've written about extensively in my books, I was very, very promiscuous.

00:04:11.000 Now, during that time of promiscuity, the relationships I had were absolutely always consensual.

00:04:16.000 I was always transparent about that then, almost too transparent.

00:04:19.000 And I'm being transparent about it now as well.

00:04:22.000 And to see that transparency metastasized into something criminal that I absolutely deny makes me question Is there another agenda at play?

00:04:32.000 Particularly when we've seen coordinated media attacks before like with Joe Rogan when he dared to take a medicine that the mainstream media didn't approve of and we saw a spate of headlines from media outlets across the world using the same language I'm aware that you guys have been saying in the comments for a while, watch out Russell, they're coming for you, you're getting too close to the truth, Russell Brand did not kill himself.

00:04:53.000 I know that a year ago there was a spate of articles, Russell Brand's a conspiracy theorist, Russell Brand's right wing.

00:04:58.000 I'm aware of news media making phone calls, sending letters to people I know for ages and ages.

00:05:03.000 It's been clear to me, or at least it feels to me, like there's a serious and concerted agenda to control these kind of spaces and these kind of voices.

00:05:12.000 And I mean my voice along with your voice.

00:05:15.000 I don't mind them using my books and my stand-up to talk about my promiscuous, consensual conduct in the past.

00:05:21.000 What I seriously refute are these very, very serious criminal allegations.

00:05:26.000 Also, it's worth mentioning that there are witnesses whose evidence directly contradicts the narratives that these two mainstream media outlets are trying to construct, apparently in what seems to me to be a coordinated attack.

00:05:40.000 Now, I don't want to get into this any further because of the serious nature of the allegations, but I feel like I'm being attacked and plainly they are working very closely together.

00:05:50.000 So is he right about the timing?

00:05:53.000 Is he right about the timing?

00:05:54.000 That's one of the big questions here, obviously, because again, all of these allegations, some of them are not criminal.

00:05:59.000 Some of them are very, very criminal.

00:06:01.000 And there is no statute of limitations on rape or sexual assault in the United Kingdom or pretty much anywhere else in the West.

00:06:07.000 Which means that theoretically the police could still bring charges against him if in fact the allegations are true or if there's proof of the allegations.

00:06:15.000 But the real question here that I have, again, and we'll get to the allegations themselves in just one second, the real question I have here is why the sudden interest by the media in all these stories now?

00:06:24.000 Meaning all these stories have been floating around for 15, 10 years, over a decade, and only now do they see fit to actually track down all the women who slept with Russell Brand and try to find some who will make allegations Or who believe that they were victims of rape or sexual assault from Russell Brand.

00:06:41.000 And all I can imagine here is that Russell Brand crossed a particular political line that if he'd still been on the right side of the line, the media definitely would not have been going after him.

00:06:48.000 Because you have to learn about the motivations.

00:06:50.000 What exactly changed?

00:06:52.000 In the same way that nothing changed about Joe Rogan from point A to point B, except his political viewpoint.

00:06:58.000 In the same way that nothing changed really about Donald Trump between point A and point B, except his political viewpoint.

00:07:04.000 In the same way that nothing has changed here about Russell Brand from point A to point B except his political viewpoint, you wonder about the timing, when he was engaged in all this behavior, when it would have been most plausible that he engaged in the sort of behavior alleged.

00:07:17.000 The media were not only uninterested, they were paying him.

00:07:20.000 10 years later when Russell has, he's by the way not a right-winger, when Russell has just decided that he is not in favor of a lot of sort of left-wing narratives ranging from COVID to to wokeness.

00:07:30.000 When that happens, suddenly you have a coordinated attack, a coordinated investigation between the Sunday Times and the Channel 4 News in Britain.

00:07:39.000 I find the timing at least somewhat suspicious.

00:07:41.000 When I say somewhat, I mean a lot suspicious.

00:07:43.000 We'll get to the allegations in just a moment, because some of them, again,

00:07:46.000 are pretty questionable on their face.

00:07:47.000 There's one allegation in particular that's very serious, and then there are some that are pretty questionable

00:07:51.000 We'll get to that momentarily first.

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00:09:10.000 But it does go to character.

00:09:12.000 There are women who are now coming out saying that they were contacted by the Sunday Telegraph,

00:09:15.000 or the Sunday Times rather, that they were contacted by Channel 4,

00:09:20.000 and that they just were not covered because they didn't tell the story the media wanted them to tell.

00:09:25.000 Here's one woman explaining that she had consensual sex with Brand and was reached out to by the media.

00:09:30.000 I was contacted in June by a journalist regarding a video I made about a certain celebrity and a weekend that we shared together.

00:09:39.000 The video is kind of viral, it's on my page somewhere if you want to go see it.

00:09:43.000 And that certain somebody was, as most of you will be aware, Mr Brand.

00:09:48.000 They weren't going to use my story because it didn't fit the narrative.

00:09:52.000 for their documentary because he wasn't an a**hole to me.

00:09:56.000 We had a phone call, she contacted me for more information and I didn't contact her back because I

00:10:02.000 kind of felt like it would be mean.

00:10:04.000 Anyway, there you go. Put your bets on. It's a documentary about the one and only Mr. Russell

00:10:10.000 Brand. Okay, so again, not all of this is going to be quoted by the media.

00:10:15.000 So what are the actual allegations?

00:10:17.000 So there are two sources that coordinated on the allegations against Bran.

00:10:20.000 One is a show in the UK called Dispatches from Channel 4.

00:10:24.000 And I have to admit, it's a little bit weird that one of the things that they do here is they say that none of the women were willing to come on camera to talk about the actual allegations.

00:10:33.000 Instead, they have actresses playing the women, reading their texts, which is kind of strange, just from a media perspective, typically.

00:10:40.000 If you want to have a reporter, you know, a talking head read the actual words, I get that.

00:10:44.000 I don't understand having an actress play the woman and infusing the lines with emotion.

00:10:49.000 I mean, that's a strange move just from a production standpoint to me.

00:10:53.000 Anyway, here are some of the quotes from Dispatches.

00:10:56.000 I phoned and somebody asked what it was regarding, and I said, it's regarding Russell Brand being a sex offender.

00:11:05.000 I was like, oh my God, he raped me.

00:11:08.000 July 1st 2012 was when my rape happened.

00:11:13.000 I was out late and he happened to call me and say, I've had a really bad day, please come over.

00:11:18.000 And I, at first I said, no, I'm not going, it's late.

00:11:23.000 And he's like, please come, just come and cuddle with me.

00:11:26.000 The door was unlocked.

00:11:28.000 I just walked into his place.

00:11:29.000 He comes running out of the bedroom naked.

00:11:32.000 He came at me.

00:11:33.000 I'm super confused as to why they would have an actress do this, but again.

00:11:36.000 Kind of fun.

00:11:38.000 And then it wasn't that fun when I couldn't move.

00:11:41.000 I knew what he wanted from me at that point.

00:11:45.000 Okay, so a lot of these allegations sound a lot like, for example, the Kobe Bryant allegations.

00:11:49.000 Remember Kobe Bryant's allegations, like, 25 years ago?

00:11:52.000 There were allegations that he was at a hotel in Colorado, and a woman came up to his room at, like, 3 a.m., and then, as it turns out, most likely she had consensual sex with him, but then she claimed she was raped.

00:12:01.000 In some of these cases where it's, like, women going to men's rooms at 2 a.m., that doesn't mean that the man gets to participate in rape.

00:12:07.000 It does mean that you have to take into account all the circumstances when you hear a he-said-she-said story.

00:12:11.000 The sort of believe all women meme has always been ridiculous.

00:12:14.000 It's no different than saying believe all men.

00:12:16.000 It's especially ridiculous when you can't even define the words women or men.

00:12:19.000 But when you look at these sorts of stories, this is the problem inherently with not going forward with, say, a criminal prosecution at the time an allegation is made.

00:12:26.000 When you come forward 10 years later, of course the story is going to get analyzed.

00:12:30.000 And that's not being mean to the woman or cruel to the woman.

00:12:33.000 That's if we're trying to get at the truth of a thing that either happened or didn't happen, you have to look at the circumstances surrounding the actual allegations.

00:12:40.000 We're going to get some more on these allegations in just one moment first.

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00:13:43.000 Okay, so now to the actual allegations.

00:13:45.000 Very long story from, as I say, the Sunday Times in the UK.

00:13:50.000 And they say, four women have alleged sexual assaults between 2006 and 2013 when he was a presenter for BBC Radio 2 and Channel 4 and then an actor in Hollywood films.

00:13:58.000 Others have made a range of accusations about Brand's controlling, abusive, and predatory behavior.

00:14:02.000 Brand denied the allegations and said all of his relationships have been consensual.

00:14:06.000 And so we're going to go through some of these allegations because, again, there is this weird tendency when allegations like this come out.

00:14:13.000 And you see them also about people like, for example, Armie Hammer, right?

00:14:16.000 The actor Armie Hammer.

00:14:17.000 All these allegations will come out of the woodwork accusing Armie Hammer of having engaged in rape or sexual assault.

00:14:23.000 And it turns out the person's been in, like, a longstanding sexual relationship with the person, where they had sex with the person both before and after, but were supposed to somehow believe that in the middle was the rape.

00:14:35.000 Maybe that's true.

00:14:35.000 Maybe that's not.

00:14:36.000 But it goes to credibility if you stayed with the guy, if you were with the guy before and you stayed with the guy after.

00:14:41.000 There are a couple of situations that are like this.

00:14:43.000 And then there are certain situations where they're not against the law.

00:14:46.000 It's just that Brandon is supposed to be creepy, which he's admitted to being between like this entire period that he was a creep with women.

00:14:52.000 So, for example, the first story here is quote, As her taxi approached Russell Brand's home, Alice remembers the driver begging her not to go inside.

00:15:00.000 Recognizing the destination, he had started to ask questions.

00:15:02.000 Alice admitted she was 16 and still in school.

00:15:04.000 She says the driver replied his daughter was the same age and intruded.

00:15:07.000 Alice, please, I'm asking you to not go in there.

00:15:08.000 You could be my little girl.

00:15:09.000 I would want someone to do this for her.

00:15:10.000 He offered to take her home without charge, but Alice insisted she was fine.

00:15:13.000 He had just a sad look in his eye, she recalled.

00:15:16.000 Alice, whose name we have changed to protect her identity, now realizes she wasn't fine.

00:15:19.000 During a relationship that lasted for about three months when Brand was a BBC radio presenter, she says he referred to her as the child and alleges he became increasingly controlling and then emotionally and sexually abusive.

00:15:28.000 So at this time, Brand was 30 and she was apparently 16.

00:15:32.000 Okay, now, in the United States, crime.

00:15:36.000 In the UK, not crime.

00:15:37.000 The age of consent in the UK is 16 and apparently Brand ascertained that she was 16 by asking her and checking.

00:15:43.000 Which means, scuzzied, scumbaggy behavior?

00:15:46.000 Sure.

00:15:47.000 No.

00:15:47.000 Criminal behavior?

00:15:48.000 If you're, again, in the UK, and the age of consent changes from states, I would prefer the age of consent be 18.

00:15:54.000 But, if you're not going to have that, then that's what it is.

00:15:58.000 According to the Times, Brand made his name in comedy in the early 2000s and also achieved the status of London's most lascivious Lothario.

00:16:04.000 After he gave up drugs in 2002, Brand filled that void with sex.

00:16:07.000 In 2005, he received treatment for sex addiction at a clinic in the U.S.

00:16:10.000 His womanizing ways.

00:16:11.000 He once said he could sleep with 80 women in a month.

00:16:13.000 Some crowned Shagger of the Year by The Sun three times, have relationships with some of the world's most beautiful women, including Kate Moss, and married pop star Katy Perry in 2010.

00:16:21.000 Now, again, this goes back to what I was saying before.

00:16:23.000 When he was engaged in this incredibly promiscuous behavior, the media were championing him and talking about what a wonderful guy he was.

00:16:30.000 And they were talking about how he was just this, again, sort of elvish, impish figure on the world stage, screwing as many women as humanly possible.

00:16:37.000 Now, this would have been like an amazing time to check into whether any of those women were happy with the situation.

00:16:42.000 Or whether all of them were, or whether some of them weren't.

00:16:45.000 Did they do so at the time?

00:16:46.000 No, because he was busy getting paid by all these same people.

00:16:48.000 Only 10 years later, when he has flipped in terms of his personal life and in terms of the values he espouses, now, now it's worthwhile for them to come after him.

00:16:57.000 And the media motivation here is part of the story, and it's impossible to do without it.

00:17:02.000 And then they go on about Alice and it gets very graphic and talks about how she was a version and how he was turned on by this again.

00:17:09.000 Is anything here actually an accusation of criminality?

00:17:13.000 No, it's apparently an accusation of grossness.

00:17:17.000 Toward the end of the relationship, Alice says that Bran sexually assaulted her.

00:17:20.000 Now this is an accusation of criminality, right?

00:17:22.000 She says that effectively he forced her into oral sex and she had to punch him to get him off of her and all of this.

00:17:30.000 There's only one problem, which is his quote, the relationship ended when Bran invited her over one day

00:17:33.000 and she arrived to find another woman in his bed.

00:17:35.000 I was so angry.

00:17:36.000 I said to him, why would you do this to me?

00:17:37.000 This is so humiliating.

00:17:39.000 Alice has decided to speak out now because she believes she was too young

00:17:42.000 to be able to consent to a relationship with an adult man and the law should be changed

00:17:46.000 to protect those under 18.

00:17:47.000 I agree the law should be changed to protect those under 18, but the allegation of illegal behavior,

00:17:53.000 including forcible sexual assault here, right?

00:17:55.000 Wouldn't that, like, if that's a criminal assault, Shouldn't she have reported that to police?

00:18:00.000 Or shouldn't she report it now?

00:18:02.000 You'll notice that these are not criminal charges.

00:18:05.000 The police apparently are now soliciting the women to see if they want to come forward and do criminal charges.

00:18:08.000 So far, none have responded, as far as I'm aware.

00:18:11.000 Then there's talk about how when Brand was a Channel 4 presenter, there were basically people who were sent into the crowd to pimp for him, to go pick up women and bring them backstage so that he would have sex with them.

00:18:22.000 Now, let me just point out that this is common practice in Hollywood.

00:18:25.000 It's disgusting.

00:18:26.000 It's been vile forever.

00:18:27.000 Only people like me have been pointing it out and we're considered prudes for doing so.

00:18:30.000 It's totally fine in Hollywood up until the point it's not.

00:18:33.000 That's part of the changing standard here.

00:18:36.000 Pretty amazing.

00:18:37.000 They all knew.

00:18:38.000 I mean, if this was the bad behavior, I have a question.

00:18:41.000 Why is this news relevant?

00:18:43.000 That he was a Lothario who was sending people into the crowd of BBC shows to pick up women?

00:18:49.000 I'm just wondering.

00:18:51.000 Bill Clinton did the same thing, became President of the United States, and the media dismissed it.

00:18:54.000 I'm just wondering why exactly.

00:18:57.000 This is relevant now.

00:18:58.000 It would have been relevant then, but the problem is they're on the side of those values.

00:19:01.000 They're on the side of those values, which is why they protected it then.

00:19:04.000 If it was bad then, if it's bad now, it was bad then, apparently.

00:19:09.000 But according to them, it wasn't bad then.

00:19:11.000 So this is why they're trying to come up with new allegations, the new allegations being an actual rape or sexual assault.

00:19:16.000 And Russell is denying all these allegations, and we have yet to see the proof.

00:19:19.000 But part of the problem with a situation in which you have unnamed women making allegations, and these unnamed women are not making them criminally, is that there is no way to adjudicate the truth or falsity of the statements.

00:19:33.000 Now the burden is supposed to be on Russell Brown to disprove that this thing happened, which is typically not the way that it works.

00:19:37.000 Typically, you have to have a burden of proof that shows that the thing did happen.

00:19:41.000 And we've seen too many situations in the past few years of accusations that turn out to be either exaggerated or not true.

00:19:50.000 Brett Kavanaugh being the most obvious example that comes to mind.

00:19:52.000 In my opinion, the Eugene Carroll story is not credible, right?

00:19:54.000 There are just plenty of these allegations that are out there about famous men who've crossed a particular line, and I mean politically there, and the allegations end up being either false or exaggerated.

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00:21:12.000 Okay, so this Sunday Times article includes other allegations.

00:21:16.000 It includes an allegation that this Nadia person who's quoted in that Channel 4 clip by an actress, which again, I keep coming back to that because it's so bizarre.

00:21:26.000 Like, why not just read the allegations the way I'm reading the allegations out loud right now, unless you want to infuse it with an extra level of emotion as played by an actress, which is strange.

00:21:33.000 Okay, so he met Nadia, a businesswoman, who was then in her 30s.

00:21:36.000 They exchanged numbers.

00:21:37.000 Brown later got in touch.

00:21:38.000 They began texting and talking on the phone.

00:21:39.000 They met up in June 2012 at his house in LA, and they went on to have consensual sex.

00:21:44.000 Okay, so They screwed and apparently she was unsettled by his glazed overlook.

00:21:52.000 And then during one text exchange, Bran suggested Nadia bring a friend.

00:21:55.000 Again, he was a degenerate at the time.

00:21:59.000 They then met again in the early hours of the morning of July 1st when she arrived at his house after he had pled with her to come over.

00:22:05.000 And this is where you get into the allegations stated before.

00:22:07.000 So she's coming over in the middle of the night.

00:22:09.000 He's obviously calling her to have sex with her, clearly.

00:22:12.000 Now, does that mean that she contends to everything that follows?

00:22:13.000 Of course not.

00:22:15.000 Does it also mean that she's in a situation she probably should not be in?

00:22:18.000 Sure.

00:22:19.000 Does it also mean that we now have a full he said she said scenario?

00:22:21.000 Yes.

00:22:22.000 Not only that, she claims that he had another person in the apartment.

00:22:27.000 He says that a friend was already in the bedroom and he wanted her to join them, according to Nadia.

00:22:31.000 And she's like, no, I'm not happening.

00:22:32.000 We're not doing that.

00:22:34.000 And then she accuses him of pushing her up against the wall and then raping her.

00:22:38.000 And then she has some texts.

00:22:40.000 This is, I think, the only proof in the story to support some of the allegations that are made.

00:22:40.000 And hear what the texts say.

00:22:46.000 Quote, And then she wrote back, you scared the bleep out of me.

00:22:52.000 You're right, I am a lovely person.

00:22:54.000 And for you to take advantage of me like that is unexpected.

00:22:55.000 You have a problem, you need help.

00:22:57.000 It's dangerous that you think you can get your own way all the time.

00:22:59.000 Do you know how scary you are when that glazed look comes over you?

00:23:01.000 When a girl says no, it means no.

00:23:03.000 Do I have to go and get myself tested?

00:23:04.000 Last time you asked me condom or no condom.

00:23:06.000 When I say condom, that doesn't mean it's optional.

00:23:08.000 You don't have the best reputation.

00:23:09.000 I pride myself on being safe and trying to make the right decisions.

00:23:11.000 Obviously, this was a bad one.

00:23:12.000 I'm so disappointed.

00:23:13.000 And he said, I'm very sorry.

00:23:14.000 You don't need to get tested.

00:23:15.000 I will somehow make this up to you with love and kindness.

00:23:17.000 Not my original idea, which was more sex.

00:23:19.000 You've been lovely to me and I'm embarrassed by my behavior, sorry.

00:23:21.000 And then will you ever forgive me?

00:23:23.000 Okay, so this is, again, this is the most telling allegation and the most credible allegation, right?

00:23:28.000 Nadia had told a friend what happened.

00:23:29.000 She apparently went to the rape treatment center at UCLA Santa Monica Medical Center that same day and she shared a copy of her treatment records.

00:23:36.000 Apparently she provided her underwear and other samples as evidence, which were frozen at the time.

00:23:40.000 An officer from LAPD was alerted by the center, according to the notes.

00:23:44.000 She chose not to make a police report.

00:23:46.000 She said she didn't think my words would mean anything up against his.

00:23:49.000 Which, again, is a strange allegation in the year 2012.

00:23:51.000 We're not talking about 1960.

00:23:53.000 The notes say if she was worried that if her assailant's name is somehow released, her name will be dragged through the mud.

00:23:58.000 She had therapy at the clinic for the following five months.

00:24:01.000 During her therapy sessions, records show Nadia was contemplating criminal or civil proceedings before ultimately deciding against it.

00:24:06.000 She wrote Brandon a letter hoping to regain some sense of power in the process, and she sent it to her house, and she said, Okay, so that is by far the most serious allegation.

00:24:13.000 you scared the bleep out of me on July 1st. I thought in any situation I'd be strong enough

00:24:16.000 to fight someone off. You completely broke me down." Okay, so that is by far the most

00:24:20.000 serious allegation. All the other allegations that are levered here are pure, he said,

00:24:25.000 she said, with no real supporting evidence other than the allegation itself. And again,

00:24:31.000 many of the allegations here include further sexual entanglements that go on after the

00:24:37.000 actual sexual assault allegation.

00:24:39.000 Now, are we going to find out what happened here?

00:24:41.000 Well, presumably there's actual hard evidence, certainly that she had consensual sex with him, right?

00:24:45.000 I mean, that's presumably what the frozen samples would show.

00:24:47.000 But if she made contemporaneous police reports, like all of this could be made not only public with her name, but also she could file criminal charges.

00:24:56.000 If those criminal charges are filed, presumably it will be adjudicated.

00:24:59.000 We just... I'm gonna say I don't know because I don't know and you don't know and no one knows.

00:25:03.000 Again, I can say what I think of Russell Brand today.

00:25:06.000 I can't say what I think of Russell Brand in 2012.

00:25:07.000 And I don't know that Russell Brand would say what he thinks of Russell Brand in 2012.

00:25:12.000 The thing that I find non-credible about the entire situation is not that allegation, which frankly sounds like she has supporting evidence and we'll see what comes up.

00:25:21.000 The thing that I find puzzling and bewildering is the media's decision to go whole hog on this story after spending years propping him up while he was engaged in the behavior and apparently everyone in town knew about it.

00:25:34.000 Elon Musk, for his part, He put out a tweet after Russell Brand put out his

00:25:39.000 statement saying, of course, they don't like the competition, meaning this is

00:25:42.000 why the media are going after him.

00:25:43.000 And he says, I support Russell Brand. That man is not evil.

00:25:47.000 Tucker Carlson said the same thing. He said, criticize the drug companies,

00:25:51.000 question the war in Ukraine, you can be pretty sure this is going to happen.

00:25:54.000 Sure seems that way, Musk replied. Again, the media's decisions to go in a particular direction in cases like

00:26:00.000 this, the pattern of who they go after and who they do not is

00:26:04.000 pretty obvious to everyone, which ironically enough undermines actual credible

00:26:08.000 allegations. But also, Thank you.

00:26:12.000 You know, leads one to question why they're doing this in the first place.

00:26:15.000 Okay, we'll get to the rest of the news in one second.

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00:27:26.000 Meanwhile, apart from the Russell Brand allegations, which will continue, I'm sure, to progress as the media covers them wall to wall.

00:27:33.000 And one additional note there.

00:27:35.000 I should point out here that those of us who have always advocated for traditional sexual mores have been scoffed at and laughed at by the media for literally decades.

00:27:43.000 And it turns out the greatest protection for both women and men is those sexual mores.

00:27:47.000 And only when Russell Brand has re-embraced those are the media coming after him.

00:27:51.000 When he was engaged in transgression of those sexual mores, he was a hero to the world.

00:27:51.000 Full scale.

00:27:55.000 The minute that he switches, all of a sudden the media are after him.

00:27:58.000 Because this is one of the things the media love to do.

00:28:00.000 Their favorite charge is hypocrisy.

00:28:03.000 The thing that they consider to be a crime in many cases, they don't actually consider to be a crime.

00:28:07.000 So much of the behavior they discuss here, they're totally fine with.

00:28:11.000 It is when the person advocates a different standard of morality, even now, you know, 10 years later, that they say, well, he's a hypocrite.

00:28:18.000 Hypocrisy, you should recognize, is not actually an attack on the behavior.

00:28:22.000 Hypocrisy is an attack on the standard.

00:28:24.000 Which presumably is why they're going after Russell Brand now, as opposed to when he was actually engaged in the behavior.

00:28:29.000 Okay, meanwhile, United Auto Workers are striking against the Detroit Three, that'd be GM, Ford, and Stellantis.

00:28:36.000 They were set to resume talks starting on Sunday, following the start of the most ambitious U.S.

00:28:41.000 industrial labor action in decades.

00:28:43.000 This is the first time the UAW has gone on strike against all three automakers simultaneously.

00:28:47.000 It is not a coincidence that this is happening.

00:28:50.000 In the middle of Joe Biden's administration.

00:28:51.000 It's happening for two reasons.

00:28:52.000 One, the automakers are getting squeezed.

00:28:54.000 They're getting squeezed because Joe Biden's new mandate that everybody shift over to electric vehicles is creating massive profitability problems at companies that are largely invested in gas-powered engines.

00:29:05.000 All these companies have built up their entire brand on making affordable and powerful gas-powered engines.

00:29:12.000 And now the Biden administration comes in and they're trying to force all the automakers to completely shift their business model.

00:29:17.000 This cuts into profitability.

00:29:19.000 Simultaneously, UAW knows that they have their man in the White House.

00:29:23.000 Joe Biden is a union man.

00:29:24.000 When I say he's a union man, I don't mean he has sympathy for the unions.

00:29:26.000 I mean he is bought and paid for by the unions and has been since 1970.

00:29:30.000 Joe Biden has always been a politician in the pocket of the unions.

00:29:32.000 And so what they figure is they will get Joe Biden to cram down a settlement on the big three automakers who are simultaneously unable to accept any of the deals that are being proposed, not only because the demands are extraordinary, but also because their profitability is being destroyed by the same Biden administration now siding with the unions.

00:29:49.000 As the Wall Street Journal editorial board points out, Sean Fein narrowly won election as UAW president in March on a platform of new militancy against U.S.

00:29:56.000 auto companies.

00:29:57.000 He now has the strike he appears to have wanted, as the union simultaneously struck GM, Ford, and Solantis on Friday for the first time in history.

00:30:03.000 Fein said, The UAW is calling walkouts at select plans to minimize how much it has to pay workers from its $825 million strike fund while still causing pain for automakers.

00:30:14.000 So it's about greed.

00:30:15.000 But the UAW is also not calling, like, a strike of all of the people.

00:30:18.000 They're just calling a strike of some of the people so they don't have to pay everybody.

00:30:21.000 Mm-hmm.

00:30:22.000 Fain wants a larger share of automaker profits, but Detroit's big three say his demands would make them less competitive against carmakers like Tesla and lead to losses.

00:30:29.000 He wants a 36% pay increase over four years.

00:30:32.000 A 32-hour workweek.

00:30:32.000 32-hour workweek?

00:30:34.000 What?

00:30:37.000 I'm sorry, who has a thir- what?

00:30:40.000 I mean, if I- I may not be a math genius, but a 32 hour workweek is an 8 hour a day, 4 days a week.

00:30:48.000 32- 32 hour workweek?

00:30:49.000 In what world?

00:30:51.000 I come from a world where a 40 hour workweek was the norm, you know, an 8 hour a day, 5 days a week.

00:30:56.000 32-hour work with overtime for additional hours, the restoration of retiree health benefits, which bankrupts all of these auto companies, because again, those health benefits were benefits-defined, not contribution-defined, and defined benefit pensions, rather than 401ks, and they want cost-of-living adjustments.

00:31:12.000 So in other words, they want all the things.

00:31:14.000 The three automakers have raised their initial wage offers to increases between 17.5% and 20%, plus large one-time payments and improved fringe benefits, including time off.

00:31:23.000 But a 32-hour workweek and restoration of retirement benefits for newer workers are non-starters.

00:31:28.000 In many ways, as the Wall Street Journal points out, the strike is made in Washington because of the Biden administration's policy mandating rapid transition to electric vehicles.

00:31:35.000 The UAW knows EVs require fewer workers to make and will jeopardize union jobs making gas-powered cars.

00:31:40.000 But the companies already lose money on EVs, and they worry about making too many concessions to the UAW that will cause them to lose even more.

00:31:46.000 It's hard to overstate the cost of this coerced EV transition.

00:31:49.000 The Biden administration, with California as co-enforcer, is mandating that EVs make up an increasing share of automaker sales two-thirds by 2032.

00:31:57.000 California and other progressive states plan to ban all new gas-powered cars by 2035, which, by the way, is not that far in the future.

00:32:03.000 It is 2023 right now.

00:32:05.000 Last year, EVs made up 3% of Detroit automaker sales.

00:32:10.000 I mean, it's amazing to think that Joe Biden has basically forced the automakers into this position.

00:32:14.000 And because, again, he is such a bought-and-paid-for union shill, the unions feel like they can force these sorts of insane concessions down on the car companies.

00:32:23.000 Hakeem Jeffries, again, another Democrat-based union shill, he says that the UAW is fighting for basic freedom, which is weird, because I didn't think basic freedom was a 32-hour workweek and defined benefit pension plans.

00:32:34.000 I'll be heading to Detroit a little later on today, looking forward to standing in solidarity with the United Auto Workers who are fighting

00:32:41.000 for the fundamental American dream, which is quite simple. If you work hard and play by the

00:32:48.000 rules, you should be able to provide a comfortable living for yourself, for your family, educate

00:32:54.000 your children, purchase a home, and one day retire with grace and dignity. Oh, that's it. That is

00:33:02.000 how they're fighting for.

00:33:03.000 A 32-hour workweek to find benefit pensions and all that?

00:33:06.000 That's about basic human rights.

00:33:08.000 Interesting take, interesting take.

00:33:10.000 Well, no shock.

00:33:11.000 It turns out that as the union ratchets up pressure on the Biden administration, they're sending their emissaries there to try and cram some sort of deal down on the automakers.

00:33:20.000 UAW President Fain, he says that they're refraining from openly endorsing Biden in the next presidential race because they're trying to pressure Biden.

00:33:27.000 Here he was saying, we expect actions, not words from Joe Biden.

00:33:31.000 President Biden says he's most pro-union president in American history, but you haven't endorsed him.

00:33:35.000 What is it going to take for you to do that?

00:33:40.000 Our endorsements are going to be earned.

00:33:41.000 We've been very clear about that, no matter what politician it is.

00:33:43.000 How does he earn it?

00:33:44.000 We expect action.

00:33:46.000 We expect action, not words.

00:33:48.000 And, you know, this fight we're in right now, I mean, obviously, you know, people are talking about them trying to interject themselves into our negotiations.

00:33:58.000 You know, This negotiating, our negotiators are fighting hard, our leadership's fighting hard.

00:34:03.000 It's going to be one at the negotiating table with our negotiating teams, with our members manning the picket lines and our allies out there.

00:34:10.000 Who the president is now, who the former president was or the presidents before them isn't going to win this fight.

00:34:17.000 Okay, so that is, again, him basically pressuring Biden.

00:34:21.000 Now, Biden is naming White House advisor Jean Sperling and acting Labor Secretary Julie Hsu to go to Detroit to help reach a deal to end that walkout, which began early on Friday.

00:34:30.000 The official with the White House, unnamed official, said both Sperling and acting Secretary Hsu are engaging with the parties by phone, as they have for weeks, with the intention of being there early in the week.

00:34:37.000 They're pleased that the parties are continuing to meet as they had been before the contract expired.

00:34:41.000 They're not going to serve as mediators or intervene, but to help support the negotiations in any way the parties feel is constructed.

00:34:47.000 And Biden says he understands workers' frustrations that as automobile companies registered record profits, they haven't been fairly shared, in my view, with those workers.

00:34:55.000 Let's be clear, no one wants a strike, but I respect workers' right to use their options.

00:34:59.000 And the unions know they have their man.

00:35:01.000 And Joe Biden really needs the unions.

00:35:03.000 He really does.

00:35:04.000 There's a new poll out from CBS News and it finds that 72% of Americans believe that Joe Biden is not actually healthy enough to serve as president of the United States.

00:35:12.000 Again, a new poll from CBS News YouGov has Donald Trump over Joe Biden, 50 to 49 at this point, showing again that Donald Trump remains an incredibly tough candidate against Joe Biden.

00:35:22.000 More importantly, showing that He's not running away from Biden.

00:35:25.000 Biden isn't running away from him.

00:35:25.000 They're locked in a death struggle here.

00:35:27.000 Meanwhile, the entire Democratic Party is in a state of panic about Joe Biden.

00:35:30.000 The New York Times has an article titled, Top Democrats' Bullishness on Biden 2024 Collides with Voter Worries.

00:35:36.000 As one top Democratic strategist put it, the voters don't want this.

00:35:39.000 That's in poll after poll after poll.

00:35:41.000 So no wonder Joe Biden has to shore up that union support.

00:35:44.000 So you would imagine this is a bad time for the Democrats.

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00:37:26.000 Okay, meanwhile, you imagine the Democrats are running into some pretty strong headwinds here.

00:37:31.000 They've got the Joe Biden impeachment, Kevin McCarthy, By the way, is saying that he is going to call Hunter Biden in any sort of impeachment action here.

00:37:39.000 He will be subpoenaed.

00:37:40.000 Here was Kevin McCarthy, the Speaker of the House, saying so just yesterday.

00:37:44.000 Will you subpoena Hunter Biden?

00:37:46.000 I mean, Don Jr.

00:37:47.000 spent 20 hours.

00:37:49.000 They didn't have any evidence.

00:37:50.000 And yet they brought him in.

00:37:52.000 They questioned him.

00:37:53.000 How come you haven't brought in Hunter Biden?

00:37:55.000 Well, the first thing is I don't subpoena anybody.

00:37:57.000 I let committees do their work.

00:37:59.000 But think about this, Maria.

00:38:02.000 You wouldn't know any of this.

00:38:04.000 If we weren't in charge.

00:38:05.000 I understand.

00:38:06.000 I understand that.

00:38:07.000 The one thing the American public has to understand is there's a strategy behind everything.

00:38:12.000 We only follow facts.

00:38:13.000 Hunter Biden will get subpoenaed, but when's the appropriate time?

00:38:17.000 Do you do it because television wants it, or do you do it around the facts and the timing?

00:38:21.000 When Comer, I think we should have the bank statements to actually know where did the money go so you would know the questions to ask Hunter Biden.

00:38:32.000 By the way, Hunter Biden, for his part, he's responding to all of this, including the new gun charges against him, by suing the IRS over IRS whistleblowers who criticized the DOJ probe and blew up his sweetheart deal.

00:38:43.000 I don't know where he's getting all this money.

00:38:44.000 It's weird.

00:38:44.000 He doesn't have enough money to pay off child support, but he's got plenty of money to sue the IRS.

00:38:48.000 That's interesting.

00:38:49.000 All this would be very bad for the Democrats.

00:38:51.000 The good news is, for the Democrats, that the Republicans, again, we are locked in a clash of stupid.

00:38:55.000 We are locked in a closet with a couple of morons just going at each other.

00:38:59.000 That's the Democrat Party and the Republican Party.

00:39:02.000 So, the Republicans are stupid for a couple reasons.

00:39:04.000 There are two things that make Republicans inherently unpopular.

00:39:07.000 A feeling of chaos, and also, whenever Democrats can charge Republicans with any sort of sexual hypocrisy, it is like their favorite thing to do.

00:39:13.000 So, we have not one, but two stories along those lines for Republicans.

00:39:17.000 First, of course, we have the Christy Noem story.

00:39:19.000 So, Christy Noem, who's the governor of South Dakota, Apparently had an absurdly blatant and public affair with handsy Trump aide Corey Lewandowski.

00:39:27.000 That is according to the New York Post.

00:39:28.000 I have sources of my own who say that Noam and Lewandowski are basically making the rounds being all cozy like months and months and months ago publicly.

00:39:34.000 Like they're just walking into interviews together and such.

00:39:37.000 According to the New York Post, married Republican South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem has engaged in a years-long affair with longtime Donald Trump advisor Corey Lewandowski, who seems to be, um, a bit of a, um, he seems to be, uh, let's just say he gets around.

00:39:50.000 The dude was apparently having an affair with Hope Hicks while he was married with four kids, and now he's having an affair with Kristi Noem, who also is married with kids.

00:39:59.000 Apparently, the pair have been less than discreet about their relationship, with one source recalling them making out at a hotel bar at 2021 CPAC.

00:40:07.000 Which is pretty gross.

00:40:08.000 It wasn't like 2 a.m.

00:40:09.000 the source says.

00:40:10.000 It wasn't like we caught them in a dive bar miles away.

00:40:11.000 It's a lobby bar where everyone's staying.

00:40:13.000 There's a bajillion political operatives and journalists and electeds around.

00:40:15.000 I remember I saw it with my own eyes and a couple other people saw it and the blatantness was absolutely absurd.

00:40:21.000 The liaison emerged one week after Noem, a 51-year-old mom of three, formally endorsed Donald Trump, 77, for the 2024 presidential nomination.

00:40:28.000 Trump, for his part, by the way, said even this weekend that he would consider Kristi Noem for the vice presidential slot.

00:40:34.000 This is shortly after she endorsed him for the presidency, obviously.

00:40:38.000 Are you leaning toward a woman?

00:40:40.000 I like the concept, but we're going to pick the best person.

00:40:44.000 But I do like the concept, yes.

00:40:45.000 A lot of people noticed when Governor Noem endorsed you, there were Trump-Noem signs.

00:40:52.000 Do you have your eye on her?

00:40:53.000 I do.

00:40:54.000 I think she's fantastic.

00:40:55.000 She's been a great governor.

00:40:56.000 She gave me a very full-throated Endorsement, a beautiful endorsement actually.

00:41:01.000 And it's been a very good state for me and certainly she'd be one of the people I'd consider or for something else maybe.

00:41:07.000 But we have a lot of people, we have a lot of great people in the Republican Party.

00:41:13.000 Yeah, so there's that.

00:41:14.000 So we have Kristi Noem, who apparently is having an affair with Corey Lewandowski, a man who keeps failing upward, apparently.

00:41:21.000 And then we also have Lauren Boebert.

00:41:23.000 So in the dumbest story of the recent past, Lauren Boebert, who's the congresswoman from Colorado, she apparently has a new beau.

00:41:32.000 Her new beau is a person who owns a bar that stages drag shows occasionally.

00:41:38.000 It's a gay-friendly drag bar.

00:41:40.000 In January 2020, Aspen Gay Ski Weekend hosted an evening of cocktails, appetizers, and laughs at Hooch, which is the bar owned by Quinn Gallagher, who is the person who is canoodling with Bulbert.

00:41:50.000 So again, that's not the scandal.

00:41:52.000 The scandal here is that apparently Bulbert was caught on video getting frisky with Gallagher at a showing of Beetlejuice.

00:42:01.000 Apparently she was, like, vaping and loudly singing during her viewing of Beetlejuice.

00:42:07.000 And then, he was petting her breast, and she was, um, grabbing his hand to keep it there.

00:42:15.000 And apparently, um, there was some crotchety behavior as well.

00:42:20.000 Some crotch behavior as well.

00:42:23.000 And then, when she was- when the ushers came, and they came to boot her, there was a pregnant woman behind her who complained about the vaping.

00:42:31.000 She refused to stop, and at that point, the ushers came and got her, and she said, quote, And then she apologized for her uncouth behavior, chalking it up to a recent split from Jason, her husband of 18 years.

00:42:46.000 She says, there's no perfect blueprint for going through a public and difficult divorce, which over the past few months has made, for me, a difficult, challenging, personal time in my entire family.

00:42:53.000 I've tried to handle it with strength and grace.

00:42:55.000 I simply fell short of my values on Sunday.

00:42:56.000 Okay, I'm sorry.

00:42:58.000 No, no, no, no.

00:43:01.000 There may not be a perfect blueprint for going through a public and difficult divorce.

00:43:04.000 I'm pretty sure that first on the list of things you don't do on the blueprint is, you know, give people hand jobs in the aisles at Beetlejuice while they grab your breast and you vape.

00:43:12.000 Pretty sure it's that.

00:43:15.000 Now the reason I say this is not because I deeply care about Lauren Boebert's sex life, I really don't.

00:43:19.000 But the point is, that as another one of these Republicans who is supposedly standing up for family values, I just don't un- Why don't Republicans seem to understand that when they present candidates who engage in this sort of behavior, it undercuts their position with the American public?

00:43:33.000 And I don't like the hypocrisy charge.

00:43:34.000 I think the hypocrisy charge is stupid.

00:43:36.000 I think you can hold values that you yourself failed to meet.

00:43:39.000 I think it happens pretty much all the time.

00:43:41.000 However, running candidates and championing candidates who consistently do this in swing districts, Boebert won her last race by like 200 votes.

00:43:48.000 I don't know that that's a recipe for success.

00:43:50.000 This is why I say the Republican Party They are the stupid party, there is no question.

00:43:54.000 And that stupidity is extending over into this government shutdown talk.

00:43:58.000 Meanwhile, the Republicans are having an internal fight now over a spending cut that would theoretically avert a government shutdown.

00:44:05.000 So according to Bloomberg, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy over the weekend proposed a deal to temporarily avert a U.S.

00:44:09.000 government shutdown with demands, including an 8% spending cut for domestic agencies and

00:44:13.000 resumption of border wall construction.

00:44:15.000 He presented that plan to Republican lawmakers in a conference call on Sunday evening after

00:44:18.000 negotiators representing key factions within the House of GOP settled on those demands.

00:44:23.000 But it seems like there are a bunch of Republicans who aren't who aren't going to go along with

00:44:27.000 the plans.

00:44:28.000 The plan here was we present a plan for an 8% government, an 8% cut in spending and building

00:44:32.000 some border wall in the middle of an immigration crisis.

00:44:34.000 And that wrongfoots the Democrats because that's not an ask for a 40% cut or a 70% cut.

00:44:38.000 It's a pretty reasonable ask.

00:44:39.000 Joe Biden eventually comes to the table, he makes like a 3% cut, he refuses on the border, and then we yell at him about how he doesn't care about the border, which is fairly decent politics.

00:44:48.000 Instead, and Politico, right, has an entire article about how this isn't going to avert a government shutdown because Biden won't give them anything.

00:44:54.000 Okay, well, if Biden doesn't give them anything and McCarthy's able to pass something, then the onus moves to Biden and the Democratic Senate to do something.

00:45:02.000 GOP leaders told their members on a private call Sunday night they hoped to bring that plan to the floor on Thursday, according to multiple people listening.

00:45:08.000 The bill, which would punt the next funding deadline to October 31st, was drafted in the last few days by a coalition of hardliners in the House Freedom Caucus and more centrist members in the Main Street Caucus.

00:45:17.000 The deal includes those across the board's cuts to domestic spending, exempting defense and veteran spending, as well as disaster aid, and would pave the way for Republicans to pass a standalone full-year defense spending bill.

00:45:28.000 That vote would now happen on Wednesday.

00:45:32.000 But a bunch of Republicans have now said that they're not going to go along with it.

00:45:34.000 Because, again, you have a collective action problem inside the Republican Party.

00:45:37.000 If you're the person who shows the crowd that you are the purest, this apparently means that you win points.

00:45:41.000 This is one of the problems with weakening parties.

00:45:44.000 So, the problem with a strong party is that the party can cram down moderate policy on people who don't want it.

00:45:49.000 The problem with a weak party is that it has no capacity to hold together its members sufficient to prevent humiliations like walking directly into walls.

00:45:57.000 So apparently, the Freedom Caucus and the Main Street Caucus worked this thing out.

00:46:00.000 And then, apparently, a bunch of people come out and say no.

00:46:03.000 That, of course, includes Matt Gaetz, whose entire agenda in life, apparently, is to bring down Kevin McCarthy's speakership.

00:46:10.000 Matt Rosendale of Montana is opposing, so is Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:46:14.000 Eli Crane of Arizona, also.

00:46:15.000 There are objections from a bunch of others.

00:46:17.000 Presumably, some of these people will have some goodies negotiated for them.

00:46:23.000 With that said, You know, the fact that whenever chaos is projected, and it may end well, it may end fine, whenever chaos is projected to no apparent end because the Democrats run the Senate and Joe Biden is the president, and so they have a bit of a say in what exactly ends up becoming law here, Republicans, how about this?

00:46:40.000 Be concerted in the issues that you attack.

00:46:42.000 Focus for a moment in time.

00:46:45.000 Otherwise, Democrats are going to have something to run on, and that is not what you want.

00:46:48.000 Meanwhile, Donald Trump did a mainstream media interview over the weekend.

00:46:54.000 It didn't go amazing for him.

00:46:56.000 His recent interviews have not been going particularly well.

00:46:58.000 This one was with Kristen Welker.

00:47:00.000 The most newsworthy thing that he said in this interview was he made a comment suggesting

00:47:06.000 that heartbeat bills, like to protect the lives of the unborn in states, are terrible.

00:47:10.000 Which is not only not pro-life, it's an awful thing to say.

00:47:13.000 It's one thing to say, that tactically speaking, as President of the United States, I'm going to try to reach as much consensus as possible and gradually move the line back on abortion to accustom the American people to protecting life.

00:47:23.000 Because if we move too far too fast, then the snapback is going to be dramatic, as we saw in Kansas.

00:47:27.000 That's a pragmatic question, and it's a case you can make.

00:47:30.000 That's not what Trump says.

00:47:31.000 What Trump actually says about abortion in this interview is morally egregious.

00:47:34.000 He says that heartbeat bills to, you know, protect babies in the womb past week five, week six, those are terrible.

00:47:41.000 That's the thing he says.

00:47:44.000 If a federal ban landed on your desk, if you were reelected, would you sign it at 15 weeks?

00:47:51.000 Are you talking about a complete ban?

00:47:52.000 A ban at 15 weeks.

00:47:54.000 Well, people are starting to think of 15 weeks.

00:47:58.000 That seems to be a number that people are talking about right now.

00:48:01.000 Would you sign that?

00:48:02.000 I would sit down with both sides and negotiate something and we'll end up with peace on that issue for the first time in 52 years.

00:48:11.000 I'm not going to say I would or I wouldn't.

00:48:13.000 I mean, DeSantis is willing to sign a five-week and six-week ban.

00:48:17.000 Would you support that?

00:48:18.000 I think what he did is a terrible thing and a terrible mistake.

00:48:22.000 A terrible thing and a terrible mistake.

00:48:25.000 In the state.

00:48:25.000 He's not even talking federally.

00:48:27.000 In the state.

00:48:29.000 Hey, that is not a pro-life position by any stretch of the imagination.

00:48:32.000 Now, obviously, Trump supporters are going to say, look, he appointed three justices to the Supreme Court.

00:48:36.000 They overturned Roe.

00:48:37.000 But the real question is, is Donald Trump going to make this a priority in his next term?

00:48:41.000 But he did in his last term.

00:48:42.000 I'm with you.

00:48:43.000 What's he going to do in his next term?

00:48:45.000 And this should provide, you know, some fodder for the DeSantis team to work with when it comes to, for example, states like Iowa, which are very, very pro-life.

00:48:53.000 I mean, the question is whether Republicans really care about policy at this point or whether they just kind of trust Trump to do whatever he's going to do.

00:48:58.000 That's really the running question of this campaign.

00:49:02.000 Now, meanwhile, Donald Trump was asked about his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election by Kristen Welker.

00:49:10.000 One of the questions I keep asking people is if they think that this race is run on this, is Trump going to win that race?

00:49:14.000 It's going to be difficult.

00:49:16.000 It's going to make it harder for him.

00:49:17.000 Could he win that race?

00:49:18.000 Because Joe Biden's a terrible president.

00:49:18.000 Sure.

00:49:20.000 So could he win?

00:49:21.000 Maybe.

00:49:22.000 Will he win if this is the chief issue that he's going to be discussing?

00:49:24.000 And he loves discussing it.

00:49:25.000 It's obviously what animates him.

00:49:27.000 I don't know.

00:49:28.000 Is it smart politics?

00:49:31.000 The most senior lawyers in your own administration and on your campaign told you that after you'd lost more than 60 legal challenges that it was over.

00:49:39.000 Why did you ignore them and decide to listen to a new outside group of lawyers?

00:49:43.000 Because I didn't respect them.

00:49:44.000 You'd hired them?

00:49:46.000 Sure, but that doesn't mean, you know, you hire them, you never met these people, you get a recommendation, they turn out to be rhinos or they turn out to be not so good.

00:49:54.000 In many cases I didn't respect them.

00:49:56.000 There are numerous books that were written on how the election was Just to be clear, were you listening to your lawyer's advice, or were you listening to your own instincts?

00:50:02.000 I was listening to different people, and when I added it all up, the election was rigged.

00:50:09.000 There are books that are written... Were you calling the shots, though?

00:50:11.000 In fact, Molly Hemingway wrote a great book called Rigged.

00:50:13.000 But were you calling the shots, ultimately?

00:50:14.000 Excuse me.

00:50:15.000 Molly Hemingway, who's highly respected and great, she wrote a book, a best-selling book, called Rigged.

00:50:23.000 Were you calling the shots though, Mr. President, ultimately?

00:50:26.000 As to whether or not I believed it was rigged?

00:50:28.000 Sure.

00:50:29.000 It was my decision.

00:50:32.000 Okay, so the reason she's asking him that is because that is the entirety of the RICO case against him.

00:50:37.000 Is that he was calling the shots.

00:50:39.000 Right now.

00:50:39.000 I think the RICO case is specious.

00:50:41.000 I think there are serious problems in the legal interpretation Fannie Willis is putting forward and all the rest.

00:50:45.000 Donald Trump, there's part of the danger here.

00:50:47.000 Dude's in the middle of a bunch of legal cases and he's being asked about legal matters on national television.

00:50:52.000 The Secret Service said it would be better if you didn't.

00:50:54.000 I said, I'd love to do it.

00:50:55.000 Again, this is legally relevant only in so far, I really don't think it's particularly relevant,

00:50:58.000 but it's legally relevant in so far as it's part of Jack Smith's January 6th case against Trump.

00:51:03.000 Here was Trump on what he was doing during the Capitol riot.

00:51:06.000 The Secret Service said, sir, it would be better if you didn't.

00:51:09.000 I said, I'd love to do it.

00:51:10.000 They said it would be better.

00:51:11.000 And so we went back to the White House, just so you understand, I spoke.

00:51:15.000 I made a very nice speech.

00:51:17.000 Tell me how you watched this all unfold.

00:51:18.000 Were you in the dining room watching TV?

00:51:19.000 I'm not going to tell you.

00:51:20.000 I'll tell people later at an appropriate time.

00:51:24.000 Just so you understand, however... What did you do when the Capitol was under attack, though?

00:51:28.000 Let me just tell you.

00:51:29.000 Did you see the statements I made?

00:51:32.000 In the Oval Office and just outside of the Oval Office?

00:51:35.000 Absolutely.

00:51:35.000 I was there that day.

00:51:36.000 Go home.

00:51:37.000 Our police are great.

00:51:38.000 We love our police.

00:51:39.000 We love everybody.

00:51:40.000 Go home.

00:51:41.000 This was a beautiful statement.

00:51:42.000 That was at 4 o'clock in the afternoon.

00:51:44.000 I don't know.

00:51:45.000 Three hours after the attack started.

00:51:46.000 But there were tweets that were put out before that.

00:51:49.000 Okay, is this going to be what people want to hear about in the 2024 election?

00:51:54.000 And Joe Biden's a terrible president.

00:51:55.000 He's presiding over a terrible economy.

00:51:57.000 He's presiding over foreign policy disaster after foreign policy disaster.

00:51:59.000 Apparently, 103 Chinese ships were spotted around Taiwan today.

00:52:04.000 Is this what we want to be talking about?

00:52:06.000 Real question.

00:52:07.000 Okay, time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.

00:52:10.000 So, things that I like today.

00:52:12.000 Apparently, according to the Daily Wire's Amanda Prestigiacomo, it seems that Stephen Avery himself from behind bars may now be directing supporters to tank the Rotten Tomatoes audience review score of Daily Wire host Candace Owens' docuseries, Convicting a Murderer.

00:52:25.000 Avery and his nephew, Brendan Dassey, were convicted of murdering photographer Teresa Halbach back in 2007.

00:52:29.000 And of course, they are featured in the brand new series from Candace, Convicting a Murderer, which rebuts making a murderer.

00:52:37.000 Well, apparently, a post on the Facebook group called Steven Avery is Innocent says, important, Steven is asking for all of his supporters to flood Rotten Tomatoes and give Convicting a Murderer a bad review.

00:52:46.000 This garbage and vitriol is not true.

00:52:48.000 We need our community to step up and let Candace Owens know that Steven Avery is innocent.

00:52:53.000 The Facebook post issued by the group's administrator on Friday night and then links to the Rotten Tomatoes review page of Convicting a Murderer and tags everybody in the group, which is like 36,000 people.

00:53:01.000 Before the post, Convicting a Murderer was boasting an average review score in the 90s.

00:53:05.000 It has now dropped all the way down to, at last check, in the 60s.

00:53:10.000 So, yeah, this is how things are going right now.

00:53:12.000 Why do I like this?

00:53:13.000 Because it shows that Stephen Avery, if there's something that Stephen Avery doesn't like, it's pretty obvious what it is here, and that is that Candace's documentary really puts the lie to all of the allegations that he is wrongfully convicted.

00:53:28.000 Her documentary really blows the lid off that particular story and the fact that Stephen Avery appears to be directing from behind bars an effort to take down the film tells you what you need to know about the value of the film.

00:53:38.000 Okay, time for a quick thing that I hate.

00:53:44.000 So apparently our F-35 stealth fighter is so stealth that it's now missing.

00:53:48.000 Like it's just gone.

00:53:50.000 According to NBC News, a U.S.

00:53:51.000 fighter jet's stealth abilities appear to be working too well, with authorities forced to ask the public for help, finding an F-35 that went missing somewhere over South Carolina when the pilot ejected because of a mishap.

00:54:02.000 Joint Base Charleston and Air Base North Charleston said it was working with the Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort to locate an F-35 that was involved in a mishap.

00:54:09.000 Sunday afternoon, the pilot was able to safely eject from the aircraft an F-35B Lightning II jet and was taken to a local medical center in stable condition.

00:54:16.000 The jet was left in autopilot mode when the pilot ejected from the aircraft, so it might still be airborne.

00:54:22.000 However, searchers were focusing their attention north of the airbase around Lake Moultrie and Lake Marion based on the jet's last known position.

00:54:30.000 Nancy Mace, Republican of South Carolina, said, How the hell did you lose an F-35?

00:54:33.000 How is it not a tracking device?

00:54:35.000 We're asking the public to what?

00:54:36.000 Find a jet and turn it in?

00:54:38.000 Apparently the transponder is not apparently working.

00:54:42.000 Worth noting that the F-35 cost per plane The acquisition costs right now are somewhere between 80 and 156 million dollars.

00:54:55.000 So, that's not ideal, guys.

00:54:59.000 So yeah, everything's going well in the military, which is why Mark Milley is still the head of the Joint Chiefs.

00:55:05.000 He's doing such a stellar job.

00:55:06.000 He was asked over the weekend about the military going woke, meaning like, why are you guys flying LGBTQ plus minus divided by signed flags?

00:55:13.000 Why is it that you guys are, for example, putting out ads talking about The value of individualism in the military, as though that's what the military is all about.

00:55:22.000 Why are you guys doing DEI training?

00:55:24.000 And Mark Milley is like, I've never heard of this woke.

00:55:27.000 What is this woke that you speak of?

00:55:30.000 Is the U.S.

00:55:30.000 military too woke?

00:55:33.000 No, not at all.

00:55:34.000 So, you know, I'm not even sure what that word truly means, but I would tell you that the military I see is a military that's exceptionally strong.

00:55:43.000 It's powerful.

00:55:44.000 It's ready.

00:55:44.000 In fact, our readiness rates, the way we measure readiness is better now than they've been in years.

00:55:50.000 You thought about resigning.

00:55:51.000 It's the military.

00:55:53.000 It's, he doesn't know what woke means guys.

00:55:55.000 Things are going amazing.

00:55:56.000 Then he said that it's their obligation to stay out of politics, which is weird

00:55:59.000 because Milley keeps injecting himself into politics by talking about white rage and such.

00:56:03.000 You thought about resigning.

00:56:06.000 You did not.

00:56:07.000 I thought at the time it was a consideration of mine, but several people counseled me and they reminded me

00:56:16.000 that an officer, a commissioned officer resigning is the consummate political act.

00:56:21.000 and that it's our obligation to stay out of politics.

00:56:23.000 And if I were to resign, then that would be a grave mistake, and it would be putting the uniform even more into politics.

00:56:31.000 Okay, there's very little that can put Mark Milley's uniform more into politics.

00:56:35.000 Quick reminder, he did get a presidential accommodation from Donald Trump as he was leaving office on January 19th.

00:56:40.000 Alrighty, folks.

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The Ben Shapiro Show - September 18, 2023

Russell Brand DENIES Allegations

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