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00:02:17.000And I'm kind of surprised, frankly, that so many members of the media are pushing back against the idea that Democrats embrace anger and mob-centric politics.
00:02:29.000He's the only person who earns an excreble rating from me outside of Michael Mowles, is in fact Eric Holder.
00:02:34.000Eric Holder, who's a terrible, terrible Attorney General, he came out and he said that our old strategy in the Democratic Party used to go, when they go low, we go high.
00:02:43.000Well now, our strategy is when they go low, we kick them.
00:04:32.000I mean, some of them, I'm sure, but all of them, it's a pretty amazing statement.
00:04:35.000She wrote a piece for the Huffington Post called, I Confronted Mitch McConnell and Interrupted Susan Collins, and I'll do it again.
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00:04:50.000But you may know me as one of those people who followed McConnell through Washington, D.C.'
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00:04:57.000I and others like me confronted McConnell and other politicians in airports and offices and elevators earlier this month because they refused to meet with the people whom they allegedly represent.
00:05:06.000What happened at the airport that afternoon is only one part of the story.
00:05:10.000And she talks about how she's harassed Susan Collins and screamed at Susan Collins during her speech affirming her vote for Kavanaugh.
00:05:17.000She says, There are tens of millions of us with a lot of skin in the judicial game.
00:05:25.000Women, people of color, LGBTQ individuals, people with disabilities and chronic health conditions.
00:05:29.000The Supreme Court has the power to interpret, uphold, and enforce laws in ways that ensure our democratic and human rights, or it can entrench privilege and power for the already privileged and powerful.
00:05:40.000We, in all our diversity and rage, are the future.
00:05:45.000And then she suggests that this is how she wants things to go from now on.
00:06:13.000They're just angry people, you know, like angry people in groups screaming at people and doing stuff, which normally we would call like a mob, but they're not a mob because they're Democrats.
00:06:22.000And this is what the media do when it's a
00:06:25.000When it's a Democratic mob, it's not a mob.
00:06:48.000People who are voicing their opinion about something that they don't believe in, or that they think is bad for them, is how the government, how the country works.
00:07:01.000Well, I love that the only standard for a mob is they killed someone now.
00:07:04.000There's never been a mob outside of mobs that kill somebody.
00:07:08.000And by the way, it's important to note that in Charlottesville, the person who killed somebody did so when he got in his car and drove away from his own mob and then rammed into somebody.
00:07:16.000So it wasn't like the mob went crazy, ran over a bunch of gates and then started destroying people.
00:07:20.000They did that, but that didn't result in the death.
00:07:22.000So even by his own logical standard, it doesn't make sense.
00:07:28.000And yet, folks on CNN are very, very strong in their belief that the only sort of mob that's real is right-wing mobs.
00:07:35.000Maxine Waters, also trotting out this talking point.
00:07:37.000Maxine Waters, the same woman who said in front of a crowd that people should confront and get in the face of people at gas stations and restaurants and they should harass folks in public places.
00:07:47.000Now she says, well, the only real type of mob is a mob that has to do with President Trump.
00:07:52.000They're trying to change the description of protest and call it a mob.
00:07:58.000Well, this president is the poster boy for what a mob protester looks like.
00:08:07.000Okay, so Trump is the definition of a poster boy for a mob, but you're changing the definition of a mob in order to actually label mobs mobs.
00:08:18.000Senator Mike Lee, he's a friend of mine and also, I think, a very solid citizen.
00:08:22.000He came out and he said, listen, he got doxxed last week, meaning that there was a staffer for a Democrat who revealed his personal information.
00:08:49.000The fact that the Democrats are now suggesting they're not involved in these sorts of mob tactics is really kind of astonishing, especially because there's a long history of Democrats using the mobs as political tools.
00:08:59.000See, there is this strategy, it's called, Fred Siegel, who's an author of a great book called The Future Was Once Here, about major American cities destroyed by democratic liberalism.
00:09:14.000Riot ideology, according to Fred Siegel, is this belief that riots are a reflection of deep underlying social ills that can only be cured by more government.
00:09:21.000And what you would see from the Democrats is an attempt to actually forward mob politics, to forward the mob, to feed the braying mob, to make the mob larger, to encourage riots, and then turn around and say, look at this.
00:09:31.000This riot is happening because the people are angry.
00:09:34.000The only way to cure this is to give the people what they want, aka more government or dollars or something else.
00:09:42.000It has been an actual tactic of Democrats for generations.
00:09:45.000Marion Barry, who ended up being mayor of Washington, D.C., he said regarding the Black Panthers, who are a violent, actual terrorist group, he says, I know for a fact that white people get scared of the Panthers, and they might look at somebody a little bit more moderate and say, well, let's give them money.
00:09:58.000And so, there he is, supporting the mob.
00:10:01.000New York Mayor John Lindsay, who is a very, very liberal Republican, he said that mass unrest could be the spur to more leftist policies.
00:10:07.000He said, quote, You remember when the left fully embraced the Occupy Wall Street movement, despite their crime and violence, despite the fact that they were occupying public places and turning them into pig sties?
00:10:21.000Jake Harney, the White House press secretary under Obama, said of Occupy Wall Street, quote,
00:10:29.000You remember when Barack Obama expressed sympathy for rioters in cities ranging from Baltimore to Ferguson?
00:10:34.000He said this about the situation in Ferguson.
00:10:37.000He said, Whenever we do that, the anger may momentarily subside, but over time, it builds up, and America isn't everything that it could be.
00:10:41.000In other words, riots are always an expression of public anger, so long as the public anger moves us in the direction of more government liberalism.
00:11:00.000In fact, Barack Obama was not afraid to use the mob as a catalyst for his policy preferences basically throughout his entire career.
00:11:07.000Right after the 2008 financial crisis, President Obama takes office.
00:11:10.000He has a big meeting with a bunch of bank CEOs.
00:11:13.000And at that meeting, he turns to them and he says, you basically ought to cave to my entire agenda because if you don't, I will let the mob get you.
00:11:20.000This is a direct quote from Barack Obama reported by Politico, quote, my administration is the only thing between you and the pitchforks.
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00:13:42.000We experienced this at DePaul University last year, when students suggested that they might get riotous and violent over me visiting campus.
00:13:50.000And then they threatened to arrest me if I showed up.
00:13:54.000There's tape of me standing in front of a security guy, their head of security there, who's telling me that if I take one step forward, he will arrest me.
00:14:03.000Democrats have engaged in this sort of stuff for a very long time, and it's always rich to hear what they're willing to label a mob.
00:14:09.000Folks on the left were perfectly willing to label not only Trump supporters a mob, but go back a few years before that.
00:14:15.000I'm old enough to remember the Tea Party, which was, in large part, a bunch of people standing around carrying Don't Tread on Me flags and reading the Declaration of Independence at rallies.
00:14:25.000I went to a bunch of Tea Party events.
00:14:26.000I spoke at a bunch of Tea Party events.
00:14:28.000I was a charter member of the Tea Party.
00:14:32.000The left said that the Tea Partiers were mobs.
00:14:34.000They said Occupy, which was involved in actual criminal activity, many, many, many, literally dozens and dozens, maybe hundreds of arrests across the country of Occupy protesters, that was not a mob.
00:14:48.000Jimmy Hoffa Jr., I remember, there were some events in 2011, and I remember him introducing President Obama there and suggesting that the Tea Party were, quote, sons of bitches.
00:14:56.000And he said, well, let's take these sons of bitches out, right?
00:15:01.000For Democrats, any form of Republican speech is demagoguery and being a mob.
00:15:06.000Anytime you get more than two Republicans in an area together, it's a mob.
00:15:09.000But Democrats who are actually charging the steps of the Supreme Court and bashing on the 13-ton doors and chanting, stop Brett Kavanaugh, those people are not a mob.
00:15:19.000People who are running through the Senate heart building trying to buttonhole senators in elevators without security protocol, those people are not a mob.
00:15:50.000And more than that, it is obviously politically motivated, and the media are part of this whole routine.
00:15:55.000So, the left is making the case that their politics is not the politics of the mob.
00:16:03.000Instead, anybody who's angry at the politics of the mob, anybody who's angry at the attempt to get Brett Kavanaugh, for example, the mob justice that was attempted on Brett Kavanaugh, and it was mob justice, right?
00:16:35.000He says, during the swearing in of Justice Brett Kavanaugh on Monday, Donald Trump took it upon himself to apologize to Kavanaugh and his family on behalf of our nation for the terrible pain and suffering you've been forced to endure.
00:16:46.000He repeated the tire lines that he and Republicans hope will stick and steer the comatose base to electoral fervor that accusations of sexual assault against Kavanaugh were part of a campaign of political and personal destruction based on lies and deception.
00:17:27.000White males are not allowed to defend their rights.
00:17:29.000If they do, this is just evidence that they are privileged.
00:17:32.000So, if white males are given due process, then that shows that they are privileged.
00:17:36.000And if they are not given due process, and then they get angry, that also shows that they are privileged.
00:17:41.000So, just like every other major leftist argument these days, the conclusion is already assumed.
00:17:47.000It's just a question of how you get there.
00:17:49.000According to Charles Blow, the women accusing the white man of assault weren't the victims.
00:17:53.000Instead, the white man was the victim.
00:17:55.000Well, to be accurate, the actual accusation is that the women accusing the white man of assault didn't have any corroborative evidence, which means that you were trying to get this guy without any corroborative evidence whatsoever.
00:18:06.000In some people's eyes, says Blow, he was the victim of political correctness, Me Too's overreach, a check your white male privilege culture drunk on its own self-righteousness.
00:18:14.000All of which is true, because that's what happened.
00:18:17.000But that's not really what this is about, according to Charles Blow.
00:18:21.000Kavanaugh's belligerent offense and Trump's dismissal of the accusers.
00:18:24.000He mocked one at a political rally and called the accusations a hoax.
00:18:28.000You'll recall that some folks like me criticized that and said that he shouldn't have mocked Christine Blasey for it because he didn't know the facts either.
00:18:34.000But according to Blow, they represent for many men a back-against-the-wall, no-more-space-to-retreat moment of fighting back, of pushing back, of standing proud in their patriarchy and proclaiming that it will not bend.
00:18:54.000They will accommodate no more ascendancy and validation of the oppressed.
00:18:58.000Now you might want to add the word allegedly oppressed there because again, none of those allegations have actually been supported by any evidence.
00:19:04.000He says that is what they are telling us and they are speaking through Trump.
00:19:07.000He says the victim sensibility Trump is articulating is not generationally restricted.
00:19:12.000In January, a PRRI MTV poll of 15 to 24 year olds found that 43% of young white men say discrimination against whites is as serious a problem as discrimination against other groups.
00:19:24.00029% of young white women agreed with them, and nearly half believe efforts to increase diversity will harm white people.
00:19:30.000Because, by nature, the definition of the left's attempts to increase diversity include harming white people.
00:19:35.000Meaning, what the left wants from diversity is not ideological diversity or diversity of experience.
00:19:41.000What the left says is that we should give slots that belong to qualified white people to unqualified non-white people.
00:19:47.000This is an actual point that the left believes in.
00:19:51.000I don't even know how the left can argue this particular logic.
00:19:55.000If you are saying that there's a group of college admittees, of which too many are white, and we need to replace some of those white people with non-white people, how does that not harm white people?
00:20:04.000You're gonna have to explain that one.
00:20:07.000And as for the notion that discrimination against whites is as serious a problem as discrimination against other groups, there are two ways to read that question.
00:20:13.000And I think that there's one accurate way and one inaccurate way.
00:20:16.000The inaccurate way is to say that historically and presently, discrimination against black folks is not as bad as discrimination against white folks, with which I disagree.
00:20:27.000And then there's the way to read it, which is that as a whole, the left is interested in stomping white dudes.
00:20:34.000Because they think that there is a patriarchy that must be punished.
00:20:38.000And that patriarchy has to do with the color of your skin, and therefore, if you're white, you don't get due process.
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00:21:59.000Okay, so concluding Charles Blow's column in the New York Times in which he accuses white males of a sense of victimization,
00:22:05.000He says that NPR's Domenico Montanaro pointed out in August that since Trump announced he was running for president, he has used the word unfair 69 times in tweets and since becoming president, 40 times.
00:22:19.000And then he says, Trump's sense of fairness or unfairness really has driven him, his rise in politics and his priorities for the country.
00:22:24.000He has capitalized on grievance, especially that of white Americans chafing at the culture of a demographically changing country and has expressed his view of what is unfair, everything from trade and immigration to the court system.
00:22:35.000On this show, I have said that I don't like victimization culture.
00:23:02.000If you actually want to make an argument in favor of a cultural shift in America, make the argument in favor of the cultural shift, but don't do it predicated on the color of the people that you're talking about.
00:23:10.000That's what the left has done, and it's driving an awful lot of backlash.
00:23:15.000And I think, to a certain extent, appropriate backlash.
00:23:18.000If you say to a group of people, you no longer matter in American life, what do you think they're going to do?
00:23:23.000What do you think they're going to do?
00:23:25.000So, Charles Blow concludes, Well, maybe President Trump is on a mission to point out that discriminatory politics in any form is bad.
00:23:53.000I mean, that is a really biased take on what's going on in American politics, that Trump wants to bind together toxic masculinity and racial performance anxiety.
00:24:01.000The suggestion being that the only people who are angry right now, the only people who are upset with the left, are toxic males who want to rape people, and whites who are underperforming.
00:24:39.000I'm not concerned about the color of people who are underperforming.
00:24:44.000And I certainly am not one of these folks who is supposedly underperforming generally.
00:24:49.000It'd be hard to make that case as well.
00:24:50.000I am angry, however, and I'm angry at a left which seeks to divide us based on color.
00:24:55.000And then the minute that you say, listen, stop dividing us based on color, the left says, oh, that's because you're a patriarchal discriminatory white man.
00:25:02.000That's the logic being used right now.
00:25:06.000And the backlash is not just going to come from white folks.
00:25:08.000The great lie of the left is that political correctness has been embraced by all minorities, and political correctness is only opposed by the white majority.
00:25:42.000Team resentment is manned, pun very much intended, by people who are predominantly old and exclusively white.
00:25:48.000Team woke is young, likely to be female, and predominantly black, brown, or Asian.
00:25:52.000The white allies do their dutiful part.
00:25:54.000These teams are roughly equal in number and they disagree most vehemently as well as most routinely about the catch-all known as political correctness.
00:26:01.000Reality is nothing like this, says Yasha Monk over at The Atlantic.
00:26:06.000As scholar Stephen Hawkins, Daniel Yudkin, Marion Juan-Torres, and Tim Dixon argue in a report published Wednesday, Hidden Tribes, A Study of America's Polarized Landscape, most Americans don't fit into either of these camps.
00:26:19.000They also share a more common ground than the daily fights on social media might suggest, including a general aversion to PC culture.
00:26:26.000The study was written by More in Common, an organization founded in memory of Joe Cox, who was a British MP murdered in the run-up to the Brexit referendum.
00:26:34.000It was based on a nationally represented poll of 8,000 respondents between December 2017 and September 2018.
00:26:42.000According to the report, 25% of Americans are traditional or devoted conservatives, and their views are far outside the American mainstream.
00:26:49.000Some 8% of Americans are progressive activists, and their views are even less typical.
00:26:54.000By contrast, two-thirds of Americans who don't belong to either extreme constitute an exhausted majority.
00:27:02.000I'm a traditional devoted conservative, but I think I would also probably be a member of the exhausted majority.
00:27:07.000Their members share a sense of fatigue with our polarized national conversation, a willingness to be flexible in their political viewpoints, and a lack of voice in the national conversation.
00:27:16.000Most members of the exhausted majority, and then some, dislike political correctness.
00:27:20.000Among the general population, a full 80%, 80% believe political correctness is a problem in our country.
00:27:28.000Young people don't like political correctness.
00:28:01.000One 40-year-old American Indian in Oklahoma said this, quote, So political correctness, in that sense, is scary.
00:28:14.000The only part of the standard narrative that the data partially affirm is that black folks in the United States are more likely to support political correctness, but three-quarters of blacks still oppose political correctness.
00:28:26.000So, it turns out the vast majority of Americans in every racial category are annoyed by the woke crowd and their insistence that nobody ever be offended.
00:28:35.000So, Charles Blow's take, which is that we are allowed to racially polarize so long as we are targeting one political group, that's not popular.
00:29:54.000Those are the people who are creating a lot of the problems in our society right now with their talk of divisive polarization and political correctness.
00:30:02.000In one second, I'm going to explain what the study means by political correctness, because that's sort of important.
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00:32:28.000So Americans hate, hate, hate, hate, hate political correctness.
00:32:31.000But what do they mean by political correctness?
00:32:33.000According to The Atlantic, in extended interviews and focus groups, participants made clear they were concerned about their day-to-day ability to express themselves.
00:32:41.000They worry that a lack of familiarity with a topic or an unthinking word choice could lead to serious social sanctions for them.
00:32:47.000So, they're not really sure what it means, but they know that they don't like the feeling of restriction that the woke left has created.
00:32:53.000But there's plenty of support for the idea that Americans are not as neatly divided by age or race as is commonly believed.
00:32:59.000According to Pew, only 26% of black Americans consider themselves liberal.
00:33:04.000Nearly half of Latinos argue that many people nowadays are too sensitive to how Muslims are treated.
00:33:08.000Two in five black folks say that immigration nowadays is bad for America.
00:33:13.000In other words, this notion that demographics is destiny, which has been pushed by both sides of the political aisle to a certain extent, is just not true.
00:33:20.000There is no shrinking white majority that is going to inevitably lead to liberal domination, and there is no inevitably increasing liberal majority that is going to lead to incredible victory over time.
00:33:33.000People's minds can be changed, in other words.
00:34:05.000If you use the N-word, that's not you being politically incorrect, it is you being a jerk.
00:34:10.000If you say that men and women are different, that is politically incorrect and you're not being a jerk.
00:34:15.000What I would recommend is that if you actually want to side with that middle of America that is tired of the standards that are being purveyed by the left, be polite, be civil, and be politically incorrect.
00:34:24.000Say things that are factual, specifically because they are factual and not merely to offend.
00:34:29.000Believe me, you don't have to purposely offend the left.
00:35:31.000But if folks on the right say stuff that offends people, that's now a form of violence.
00:35:35.000On CNN Headline News, when I say a man is a man and a woman is a woman, and some transgender woman grips me by the back of the neck and threatens me bodily harm, those two things are equivalent.
00:35:46.000Me saying a man is a man and a woman is a woman, according to the left, is the equivalent of somebody grabbing me physically on national television and threatening to send me home in an ambulance, which is literally what happened, and also makes no sense because you don't go home in an ambulance.
00:36:16.000And again, when you mistake political incorrectness for being a jerk, or vice versa, you are making a rather large mistake yourself.
00:36:23.000But it is important to note that this notion on the left that the woke majority is just all the black people and all the women and everybody else, it's just not true statistically.
00:36:33.000And that's a very, very important thing to keep in mind.
00:36:35.000We still have more in common than not.
00:36:39.000And you can be fooled by watching our politics or watching social media.
00:37:14.000Despite leaked video footage showing top executives declaring their intention to ensure that the rise of Trump and the populist movement is just a blip in its history, Google has repeatedly denied that the political bias of its employees filters into its product.
00:37:26.000But, the 85-page briefing titled The Good Censor, I mean, how Orwellian is that?
00:37:32.000They actually have a briefing at Google called The Good Censor.
00:37:43.000In a second, I'm going to go through this report and explain to you why this is so bad.
00:37:51.000Plus, I want to talk a little bit about this horrific situation with the Saudi government allegedly murdering a Saudi dissident at the embassy in Turkey and what the Trump administration should do about it.
00:38:43.000If AT&T were to be like the Daily Wire, then they would actually be a publisher, right?
00:38:47.000They could decide what is and is not published.
00:38:50.000If that's the case, then they have all sorts of legal liabilities you don't have.
00:38:53.000As a platform, Google's essentially admitting they might in fact be a publisher, not a platform.
00:38:58.000The briefing from Google identifies several factors that allegedly eroded faith in free speech.
00:39:03.000The election of Donald Trump and the alleged Russian involvement is identified as one such factor.
00:39:07.000So basically, Democrats browbeated Google into believing that they are responsible through allowing free speech into Donald Trump being president.
00:39:16.000And then they talk about the rise of online hate speech.
00:39:19.000And then they also talk about spreading conspiracy theories.
00:39:24.000But the most important thing appears on pages 66 through 68.
00:39:28.000Their briefing argues that Google, Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter are caught between two incompatible positions.
00:39:33.000First, the unmediated marketplace of ideas.
00:39:37.000Right, that would be the free speech tradition of the United States.
00:39:40.000And second, the well-ordered spaces for safety and civility, which would be
00:39:45.000The second tradition is described as the European tradition, which favors dignity over liberty and civility over freedom.
00:39:50.000And then the briefing concludes, all tech platforms are now moving toward the European tradition.
00:40:24.000Civility may not include your viewpoint.
00:40:26.000This is dangerous, dangerous stuff and it's one of the reasons why we should all be very wary of these massive social media companies that seem to be targeting specific political points of view.
00:40:35.000Now, I do want to talk a little bit about the situation with regard to Jamal Khashoggi.
00:40:40.000He is a columnist or was a columnist for the Washington Post.
00:40:43.000He's been missing since entering the Saudi consulate in Istanbul last week.
00:40:47.000The Turkish police allege that he went into the consulate and that he was then murdered by members of the Saudi consulate.
00:40:53.000That basically the Saudis brought in 15 people, a kill squad, to go into the consulate, kill this guy, dismember him, and then bury him.
00:41:00.000The Saudi government is still denying foul play.
00:41:03.000The Turkish government has provided specifics and evidence.
00:41:06.000There's video of Khashoggi entering the consulate, and they've provided the names of 15 Saudi agents that it says flew to Istanbul in pursuit of him.
00:41:12.000The Saudis have issued blanket denials.
00:41:15.000But this is raising some very serious issues for the United States, because the Trump administration has been very close to Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.
00:41:22.000And that's because Salman has been treated as a reformer.
00:41:25.000He's somebody who supposedly wants to move away from some of the fundamentalism of Saudi Arabia.
00:41:29.000He's been involved in the creation of an anti-Iranian alliance in the Middle East.
00:41:32.000The United States has heavily funded the Saudi government in their fight in Yemen because the Saudis are basically having a proxy war with Iran in Yemen.
00:41:40.000And so this has raised questions because Khashoggi was a legal resident of the United States.
00:41:44.000This has raised questions about whether the United States ought to punish the Saudis by withdrawing support for their arms.
00:41:51.000We should stop selling them weaponry, for example.
00:41:54.000The reason that this is a dicey issue is not because we should keep providing them arms on a moral level.
00:41:59.000The reason it's a dicey issue is because there is another party at the table, and that is the Iranian government, which is an actual terrorist government.
00:42:05.000And the Turkish government is much more warm with the Iranians than they are with the Saudis.
00:42:09.000The Turkish government right now is holding a U.S.
00:42:11.000pastor in prison, so none of these regimes are great.
00:42:13.000But it does provide the Trump administration with a choice.
00:42:15.000Choice number one is basically slap the Saudis on the wrist, pretend that nothing bad happened.
00:42:19.000Choice number two is to basically downgrade the Saudi relationship with the United States over all of this.
00:42:26.000To suggest that the choice doesn't have ramifications or that it's easy is to misread the nature of global politics.
00:42:32.000My tendency is to say that if this happened, you have to downgrade the Saudis.
00:42:37.000You have to withdraw armed support for the Saudis and they have to be punished because this cannot be allowed to go on by an American ally.
00:42:44.000We should also remember that there are geopolitical considerations at play, and backing the Iranians in order to stop the Saudis, or allowing the Iranians to run roughshod through the Middle East because the Saudis did something evil here, would not be a good outcome either.
00:42:59.000And it's just awful the Saudis put the United States in this position, geopolitically, and also, obviously, a lot more awful that it sounds like they murdered a guy because he was a dissident at their consulate in Istanbul.
00:43:09.000It's just, just terrible, just terrible.
00:43:12.000Okay, so, as we continue, we'll talk a little bit more about that, and we'll get to some things I like and things I hate.
00:43:16.000So, President Trump has sounded off on this.
00:43:18.000Yesterday, he came out, he said, listen, we can't let this happen.
00:43:27.000To reporters, to anybody, we can't let this happen.
00:43:31.000And we're gonna get to the bottom of it, okay?
00:43:34.000Okay, so, obviously, Trump very unhappy about this.
00:43:36.000Lindsey Graham, who's been a big Trump ally, he says, there'll be hell to pay if this guy actually was murdered.
00:43:42.000I've never been more disturbed than I am right now.
00:43:44.000If this did in fact happen, if this man was murdered in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, that would cross every line of normality in the international community.
00:43:55.000If it did happen, it would be hell to pay.
00:43:58.000OK, now let's point out that would anybody be that surprised?
00:44:03.000I mean, the Saudi Arabian government has been a dictatorship, a rather evil dictatorship for several generations now.
00:44:10.000So I don't think anybody would be supremely surprised if it turns out that this is what happened.
00:44:14.000But it will necessitate action on the part of the United States.
00:44:17.000And as I say, that action could take one of two forms.
00:44:19.000Eli Lake has a good piece over at Bloomberg talking about all of this.
00:44:22.000He says, there's a deeper problem with the slap on the wrist.
00:44:48.000military engagement in Yemen could actually lead to more civilian casualties.
00:44:53.000So, we will find out what happens here.
00:44:55.000My guess, in the end, is that the United States does a mixture.
00:44:58.000That the United States punishes the Saudis temporarily and then comes back to them in three months and talks about what they can do to rectify the relationship.
00:45:09.000But suffice it to say that it's deeply disturbing and messed up that the Saudi Arabian government decided to put the United States in this position aside from the innate evil of killing a man who apparently was going to this embassy to get a marriage license.
00:46:09.000So, shout out to the producer of James Bond, Barbara Broccoli, who's a longtime executive producer, and the daughter of the franchise creator, Albert Broccoli.
00:46:17.000She says that James Bond will never be a woman.
00:46:56.000Right, that's what we call that, right?
00:46:58.000Guys are not the same about sex as women.
00:47:00.000So if you had a beautiful woman and she's like, ooh, she was able to get that guy in bed, that is not any sort of actual plot line because there's no tension whatsoever in the plot line.
00:47:10.000I mentioned this study the other night at...
00:47:13.000University at Buffalo one of my favorite social science studies ever from 1989 there is it's I think it's Clark and Hatfield are the guys who did this study and the study was they took an attractive female and they had her go to a bar and proposition a bunch of guys want to come home with me tonight they had an attractive male go into a bar and proposition a bunch of females want to come home with me tonight 75% of dudes proposition by the female said yes
00:47:36.000For people who think that men and women are exactly the same about matter of sexual, that is just asinine.
00:47:41.000In fact, turning James Bond into a woman makes no sense at all.
00:47:46.000And the way that you can tell this is they tried to do this with Atomic Blonde and it was a box office failure.
00:47:50.000There was nothing about Atomic Blonde and Charlize Theron in Atomic Blonde where she couldn't have been a dude.
00:47:54.000Like, they could have literally had a dude say every one of those lines and do every one of those actions and the movie would have worked in almost exactly the same way.
00:48:34.000And we're with our security detail also.
00:48:38.000It's both tragic that I have to have a security detail in order to go around giving speeches, but it's also fun in the sense that I really like the guys on my security detail.
00:48:45.000They're all ex-military and they're a blast and they're really a kick.
00:49:40.000And then, because all the guys in my security detail are ex-military, one of them starts to get out of the car to talk to the police officer.
00:49:46.000And the police officer is getting real uptight now.
00:50:08.000And we say, well, that's a police car.
00:50:12.000And this officer says, well, you know, there are people on our force who go home at night and, you know, they build police cars and they just ride around in them.
00:50:22.000Number two, if that's happening and you are posing as a police officer, that's a crime.
00:50:29.000So if you actually think that that is a person who has built a formal police car and is driving around with their lights on off-duty, shouldn't you go arrest the person doing that, you know, 10 feet in front of us and not bother us?
00:50:42.000Eventually, this police officer goes and actually asks the other police officer what's going on.
00:51:03.000I'm one of the biggest defenders of police officers in America.
00:51:07.000The reason I tell this story is because one of the narratives you hear a lot is that police action, when it's bad action, is a result of racism.
00:51:15.000Something bad happens to a black person, it's automatically the result of racism.
00:51:19.000I am here to tell you, there are some police officers who are just doofs.
00:51:24.000I don't know what this guy's name was.
00:51:31.000And it is important to recognize that in every profession, there are doofs.
00:51:34.000So when something bad happens, instead of immediately leaping to the conclusion that it must be systemic racism because police officers hate black folks, instead, we might want to think about the possibility that the police officer is just a doof.
00:51:45.000The kind of doof who would pull you over
00:51:49.000I mean, frankly, if you thought the police officer in front of us was not a police officer and was a civilian impersonating a police officer, you should have given us a medal for making a citizen's arrest against somebody who's impersonating a police officer.
00:52:14.000I really don't want the headline tomorrow to read, Shapiro and security team shot to death by officer for following a police officer to the airport.
00:52:41.000So, there was a full panel on CNN in which all of the members of the panel decided that it was totally okay to call Kanye West a token Negro and suggest that he is stupid because of his race.
00:52:52.000But now all of a sudden, Kanye, because he's put on a MAGA hat and he's an attention whore like the president, he's all of a sudden now the model spokesperson.
00:53:00.000He's the token Negro of the Trump administration.