The spiral to garbage land continues, and I'm not enjoying it. Both sides have decided to embrace the worst aspects of their own political program, and embrace the most extreme anti-American ideals. I don't think that's a bad thing. I think it's dangerous. And I think that we need a common moral standard where we say, this is garbage, and people shouldn't be doing this to the other side, but we're doing it to each other or vice versa, because it advances our interests and advances our own interests. Once you come down to the vision that the other party is so evil that any means necessary are on the table, then you're missing the point of your political opponents. And once you come to the point that most Americans are so vicious and vacuous that your viciousness is going to attract voters, you're going to miss the point. And on the other hand, if you believe that the left is so bad that you believe the right is bad that we can embrace it, then that we are fighting fire with fire. And in other words, we are going to be on fire. We're all on fire, and we're all fighting for ourselves. And we're fighting for each other, so why not embrace the things that we hate so much that we don't have any other choice but to embrace them? And if you don't do that, you are missing the whole point of our politics. You're not only the idea of American politics, but the reason for our political system, and why we need to be fighting for what we should be fighting against the things we hate and fighting for? And you're not fighting for the country, because we have to fight for ourselves against the country that we're a country that s good, not for us, not against us, and not for ourselves, but against ourselves, and so on and on and so forth. That's not a judgment about who we should fight for, but for us to be a better place, and a better country, right and not against the other? I don t think that s a good place to be better than the country. I think we should embrace our own ideas, not the other, and our own ideals, because they are so bad, and that we have a place in the history of our own history, not because they're so bad. - Ben Shapiro I hope you enjoy this episode, folks! Ben
00:00:00.000The crowd chants, send her back about Ilhan Omar at a Trump rally, Ilhan Omar demonstrates her anti-Semitism, and Nancy Pelosi goes silent.
00:00:32.000I know that we are supposed to say that when bad things happen on our own side, it's not actually bad because we're in the middle of a tribal partisan fight.
00:00:38.000And I know that that applies to both sides.
00:00:52.000And I find it upsetting because if we are going to share a country, if we actually feel that there is a future to this whole we're a republic thing and we share a country, then we are going to have to have some common moral standard where we say, this right here, this is garbage and people shouldn't be doing this.
00:01:07.000And brushing it aside or saying, well, you know, if we act like garbage a little in order so that we can win, Doing that sort of routine I don't think is good for the country.
00:01:17.000I don't think that it is good for the soul of the country.
00:01:21.000I think that it is bad if we see each other in such a nature that when we see something that if the other side did it to us we would be completely enraged but we're doing it to the other side or vice versa.
00:01:31.000That we are going to be OK with it because it advances our interests.
00:01:35.000I just I don't think that that's all right.
00:01:40.000In fact, now this goes for both sides.
00:01:42.000And today's show is going to be about how both sides have decided to wink and nod at some of the worst forces in their politics, specifically because they think the other side is so evil.
00:01:53.000Once you come down to the vision that the other side is so evil that any means necessary are on the table, And also, once you come down on the side that most Americans are so vicious and or vacuous that your viciousness is going to attract voters, I think that you are missing the point of most Americans in the middle.
00:02:12.000I think you're missing the point of the other side.
00:02:14.000The idea of American politics is to convince people who are in the middle, people who may not be watching politics closely, that your side is correct, that your policy prescriptions are right.
00:02:24.000The most dangerous drug in American politics, and it really has crept up in American politics I think over the last 20 years or so, I think particularly since the Iraq war, is this vision that the way you win elections is by castigating your political opponents as, if you're on the left you castigate right-wingers as racist and stupid and bitter clingers who cling to their gods and guns and xenophobia, and if you're on the right then you castigate your political opponents as people who
00:02:50.000Hate the country inherently as people who don't deserve to be here as people who want the worst for the country.
00:02:57.000Now, you can disagree with all of their policy prescriptions.
00:02:59.000You can believe that they're getting it totally wrong.
00:03:01.000You can even believe they're getting in the history of America wrong and that that that perception of America's history is dangerous and problematic.
00:03:08.000But that is a judgment about the thought.
00:03:11.000It is not a judgment about the person.
00:03:13.000And what we are starting to see is that the most effective mode of American politics may be character attacks, but character attacks are also the most effective mode of breaking apart the polity.
00:03:22.000That if you attack somebody else's character on a routine basis, and by that I mean suggesting that there is no place in America for people like X, If you do that, then you are contributing to something that is really dangerous in American politics.
00:03:38.000And on the other side, if you believe that the other side is so bad, this would be the left, if you believe that the right is so bad that we can embrace the worst aspects of our own political program, that we can embrace the most extreme anti-Semitism, we can embrace the most extreme anti-American history ideals, Because we hate Donald Trump so much, you get yourself into trouble.
00:04:00.000In other words, I think that we are fighting fire with fire and so everything's on fire.
00:04:03.000I think that that's where we are right now.
00:05:08.00047 47 47 that's text by name ben to 47 47 47 okay so in order to understand where we arrived at last night in sort of the political realm we have to go back to yesterday morning Because this entire unfolding narrative has been a crap show from beginning to end.
00:05:27.000So AOC and Nancy Pelosi, we'll go back even further, we'll go back to last Thursday.
00:05:32.000All this stuff happens inside a week now, it's insane.
00:05:35.000Last Thursday, AOC and Nancy Pelosi were in An utter firefight.
00:05:39.000The AOC was suggesting that Nancy Pelosi was a vicious racist.
00:05:43.000Nancy Pelosi was correctly suggesting that AOC is a neophyte who doesn't know what she's doing and has radical ideas she doesn't know how to implement.
00:05:50.000And both sides were just going at each other hammer and tongs.
00:05:53.000And then President Trump on Sunday decided, you know what would be great?
00:05:55.000I'm just going to insert myself right here into the middle of this for no reason at all with a dumb, vacuous, xenophobic, possible And it turns out that only one of those people, Ilhan Omar, is actually from a foreign country, and also telling people to go back to the country from which they came is generally not good for American politics.
00:06:23.000Telling people that they should go back to their home country, suggesting that they are more loyal to their home country than they are to the United States, that's bad.
00:06:30.000Ilhan Omar does it to Jews all the time because she's not a great person.
00:06:34.000Because she says terrible things on a routine basis.
00:06:37.000I think she's an awful congressperson.
00:06:39.000There's no one more anti-Ilhan Omar in the United States on a political level than I am.
00:06:43.000So Trump jumps into the middle of that and he makes these comments.
00:06:46.000And then we get three, four days of fallout from that.
00:06:49.000And then it starts to move on, the news cycle.
00:06:52.000And AOC and Pelosi start to go at it again.
00:06:54.000And the Democrats file charges of impeachment against President Trump and that fails.
00:06:58.000And then Ilhan Omar decides, you know what?
00:07:01.000With my newfound fame, with my newfound political capital, I'm going to push out another extraordinarily radical piece of the Democratic agenda, of the far-left agenda.
00:07:11.000A piece so radical that my own party believes it's anti-Semitic.
00:07:14.000So this is how the news cycle started yesterday.
00:07:17.000Nancy Pelosi had just the day before, just on Tuesday, Nancy Pelosi I had rammed through the House of Representatives a resolution condemning President Trump's tweets as racist.
00:07:27.000And there was a whole floor fight, big hubbub, about whether Nancy Pelosi was allowed to call the President's comments racist on the floor of the House because it violated House rules.
00:07:35.000The Democrats basically overruled the House rules and said, it's fine, she can call the President's tweets racist.
00:07:41.000And she went out there and she said, listen, we speak truth to power, right?
00:07:48.000Every single member of this institution, Democratic and Republican, should join us in condemning the President's racist tweets.
00:07:56.000To do anything less would be a shocking rejection of our values and a shameful abdication of our oath of office to protect the American people.
00:08:08.000I urge a unanimous vote and yield back the balance of my vote.
00:08:13.000I was just going to give the General Speaker of the House if she would like to rephrase that comment.
00:08:17.000I have cleared my remarks as a parliamentarian before I read them.
00:08:21.000Okay, so she's speaking truth to power, so much truth, so much power, and all the rest.
00:08:26.000And then she tweeted out, in this house, we speak truth to power.
00:08:29.000Now, here is the problem for a lot of folks on the right.
00:08:31.000Even if people don't like President Trump's comments, like I didn't like President Trump's tweets, and I criticized them pretty heavily this week.
00:08:37.000Even if you don't like those comments, it is a lie that Nancy Pelosi speaks truth to power.
00:08:40.000She's a partisan hack who is using racism in order to... the charge of racism in order to forward her political ambitions, but she's more than happy to ignore bigotry inside her own ring.
00:08:51.000So if Ayanna Pressley says something racist over the weekend...
00:08:53.000If Ayanna Pressley says that black people are not really black people unless they agree with Ayanna Pressley, and gay people are not truly gay unless they agree with Ayanna Pressley, and Muslims are not truly Muslim unless they agree with Ilhan Omar, then Nancy Pelosi has nothing to say.
00:09:05.000And in fact, Nancy Pelosi has shown her cowardice on these issues time and time again, which is how you ended up in a position where the AOC wing was in a fight with the Nancy Pelosi wing.
00:09:14.000Because remember, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, AOC, they're not hiding any of what they feel.
00:09:20.000There's a piece over at Daily Wire from a few weeks ago by Ryan Saavedra listing out all of the things Ilhan Omar has said.
00:09:26.000In 2012, she tweeted, Israel has hypnotized the world.
00:09:29.000May Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel.
00:09:32.000The Jewish state is hypnotizing the world.
00:09:38.000She also, in a January interview this year, defended those tweets saying, they were the only words I could think about expressing at the moment.
00:09:44.000Then she said in an interview on CNN, she didn't understand why Jews would find her anti-Semitism to be offensive.
00:09:49.000She said, that's a really regrettable way of expressing that.
00:09:53.000I don't know how my comments would be offensive to Jewish Americans.
00:09:56.000And then after winning her congressional election, she switched her position on BDS.
00:10:00.000She suggested that Israel should not be allowed to exist as a Jewish state.
00:10:11.000And she then continued along these lines.
00:10:14.000She embraced Linda Sarsour, who is a radical anti-Semite, obviously.
00:10:20.000And then there's Rashida Tlaib, another member of the squad.
00:10:22.000Tlaib has promoted anti-Semitic conspiracy theories.
00:10:25.000Back late last year, she suggested that her congressional colleagues only supported a bill opposing BDS because, quote, this is the United States.
00:10:39.000So basically, they're in league with the Jews.
00:10:43.000Everybody has divided loyalty, according to Rashida Tlaib, if you oppose BDS.
00:10:48.000And then, of course, she came out in favor of BDS boycott, divest, and sanctions.
00:10:52.000She said that she did not support a two-state solution between Israel and the Palestinians, which would presumably mean the destruction of the state of Israel.
00:10:59.000She's been photographed with supporters of Islamic terror organizations.
00:11:02.000The Washington Examiner has reported that over and over and over.
00:11:05.000She was photographed with a Palestinian activist who praised the terrorist group Hezbollah, said Israel did not have the right to exist, and has called for Israeli Jews to return to Poland.
00:11:14.000Where roughly three million Jews were killed during the Holocaust.
00:11:17.000He was welcomed and offered, and he offered her a piece of art at her swearing-in.
00:11:23.000She belongs to a group that frequently demonizes Jews and its Palestinian founder, Maher Abdelkader, raised substantial funds for Tlaib for her congressional campaign.
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00:12:54.000Okay, so Nancy Pelosi, as we say, she does not speak truth to power when it comes to the bigotry inside her own caucus.
00:12:59.000So when Ilhan Omar said openly anti-Semitic stuff over and over and over, Pelosi's immediate response was, well, you know, she just uses English differently, like the language of English.
00:13:09.000The incident that happened with, I don't think our colleague is anti-semitic, I think she has a different experience in the use of words, doesn't understand that some of them are fraught with meaning that she didn't realize.
00:13:23.000But nonetheless, Okay, but you didn't address it.
00:13:28.000You then passed a resolution that did not name any of Ilhan Omar's comments and instead condemned hate more generally.
00:13:42.000There's a bipartisan organization, a lot of leadership is Democrat over at AIPAC, and Pelosi appears, and she talks about the Boycott, Divest, and Sanctions movement.
00:13:50.000Now, BDS is, in fact, an anti-Semitic movement.
00:13:53.000Not everybody who expresses support for BDS can be said to be anti-Semitic, but the movement was founded by anti-Semites, and the movement itself is anti-Semitic, meaning that the attempt to boycott every Israeli product on the basis of you don't like Israeli policy with regard to the Palestinians.
00:14:10.000is singling out Israel in a way you would single out no other country.
00:14:12.000Not only that, it is targeting Jews collectively, which is the goal.
00:14:16.000It damages Arabs who live inside Israel and who are citizens.
00:14:19.000And originally, the BDS movement was launched by a bunch of people who openly stated they wanted to destroy the state of Israel.
00:14:25.000Nancy Pelosi acknowledged as much at AIPAC.
00:14:27.000Here's Nancy Pelosi a month ago declaring that BDS is anti-Semitic policy.
00:14:31.000We must also be vigilant against bigoted or dangerous ideologies masquerading as policy.
00:14:44.000Last week, we introduced the Schneider, that would be Brad Schneider of Illinois, and Nadler, that would be Jerry Nadler of New York, the Schneider-Nadler resolution in the House that explicitly opposes the BDS movement.
00:15:00.000Okay, so, there we are, Nancy Pelosi saying BDS is anti-Semitic, and of course, she is correct about that.
00:15:05.000According to the Jerusalem Post, there are more than 100 links between the internationally designated terrorist organizations Hamas and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine with non-governmental organizations promoting the anti-Israel boycott, divest, and sanctions movement, some of which receive funding from European states and philanthropic funds, according to a new report by the Strategic Affairs Ministry.
00:15:24.000More than 30 members of Hamas and PFLP hold senior positions in BDS promoting non-governmental organizations.
00:15:32.000BDS proponents are pretty obvious about what exactly they believe about Israel.
00:15:36.000Omar Barghouti, who is the founder of the Palestinian Campaign for the Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel, says Israel was Palestine.
00:15:42.000There's no reason why it should not be renamed Palestine, meaning Israel should disappear and presumably all the Jews should be killed or deported.
00:15:49.000Ronnie Kasriel says BDS represents three words that will help bring about the defeat of Zionist Israel and victory for Palestine.
00:15:56.000Michael Warshawski, who's a BDS activist, he said peace or better yet justice cannot be achieved without a total decolonization, one can say de-Zionization, of the Israeli state.
00:16:27.000And even Ilhan Omar knew what BDS was when she was running for Congress because she went out of her way to say to her constituents that she would not support BDS.
00:16:35.000This is going back just a couple of years.
00:16:39.000I think it is going to be important for us to recognize Israel's place in the Middle East and the Jewish people's rightful place within that region.
00:16:50.000It's also important for us to make sure that we are going through a process that we're guaranteeing that to the Palestinians.
00:16:58.000I believe right now with the PBS movement, it's not helpful in getting that two-state solution.
00:17:07.000And so I look forward to making sure that we are utilizing and being part of a conversation that gets us closer so that we can have peace.
00:17:16.000So you'll notice that Ilhan Omar there is basically saying BDS is not effective, and that's why I won't support it.
00:17:21.000But she never said that it's immoral or anti-Semitic.
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00:18:42.000Okay, so yesterday, after a month, after Nancy Pelosi said BDS is anti-Semitic, Ilhan Omar sponsored a resolution that compares Israel to Nazi Germany and the Japanese Imperial Empire in 1937 when they were busy raping Nanking.
00:18:58.000That was the resolution that she sponsored yesterday.
00:19:00.000And Nancy Pelosi, who stands up truth to power, nowhere to be seen.
00:19:07.000This resolution says, quote, Americans of conscience have a proud history of participating in boycotts to advocate for human rights abroad, including boycotting Nazi Germany from March 1933 to October 1941 in response to the dehumanization of Jewish people in the lead up to the Holocaust.
00:19:25.000So, Ilhan Omar, who has nary a word to say about the Iranian nuclear program, who has nary a word to say when it comes to, I mean, she literally was asked yesterday or two days ago to condemn Al-Qaeda on the basis of an old clip of her that was going around in which she was jokingly referring to Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah and saying, well, why was everyone taking them with different seriousness than the U.S.
00:19:49.000She refused to answer that particular question.
00:19:51.000She said that it was beneath her dignity to answer that particular.
00:19:54.000There's a woman who wrote a letter just a few years ago advocating for lenient sentences for people who are trying to join ISIS.
00:20:02.000And who routinely engages in anti-Semitic language and ideas.
00:20:07.000This same Ilhan Omar is now saying that Israel should be boycotted because it is like Nazi Germany.
00:20:13.000And Nancy Pelosi is nowhere to be found.
00:20:17.000So this resolution compares Israel, not only to Nazi Germany, but also to the Soviet Empire, to the Soviet Union, and also to, as I say, the Japanese Empire from 1937 to 1938, when the Japanese Imperial Army was busy conquering foreign lands and subjecting its population to supreme human rights depredations, including mass murder and mass rape.
00:22:12.000You can't even get a mainstream Democrat to comment on an actual terror attack on an ICE facility by Antifa, let alone criticizing Ilhan Omar for her bigotry and anti-Semitism.
00:22:25.000There are Democrats who know that this is bad stuff, obviously.
00:22:28.000They're just being shunted off to the side.
00:22:30.000So, Jake Tapper on CNN reported yesterday that Democrats are feeling squeezed by the fact that Ilhan Omar and the Squad are being given this much prominence because they're too radical, because they engage in overt bigotry on a fairly regular basis, and there are Democrats in the House going, uh, what is all of this?
00:22:45.000I have been spending the day talking to a lot of Democratic House members.
00:22:50.000They are very frustrated with the squad.
00:22:52.000They are very frustrated with them for any number of reasons you heard in the introduction.
00:22:57.000One House Democrat saying we need to be talking about bread and butter issues, not the president's tweets.
00:23:01.000But others say they don't want to be in the position of defending things that they disagree with from, say, Congresswoman Ilhan Omar.
00:23:09.000I mean, this is exactly what the this is the position that the president and the Republican Party, who has backed him up on this, has forced Democrats into.
00:23:18.000They are painting the entire Democratic Party with the same brush.
00:23:21.000OK, so again, the the moderate Democrats are feeling that they are being forced to embrace the radicalism of Ilhan Omar.
00:23:28.000So by yesterday, we are back to Ilhan Omar being so radical that there's an infight inside the Democratic Party.
00:23:35.000And President Trump seems as though he has moved away from his ugly statements of earlier this week about everybody going back to their home countries and that nastiness.
00:23:43.000It seems like he has moved beyond that and he has shifted his argument to instead, if you don't love the country, you can leave it, which is hackneyed and old and it's an emotional argument, but at least that is voluntary, you can leave if you want, right?
00:24:26.000And then Trump made pretty clear who he was talking about.
00:24:29.000He specifically was talking about Omar and her comments about the United States and the fact that she said some people did something about 9-11.
00:24:36.000Trump went after Omar on a variety of issues.
00:24:39.000The RNC released a campaign ad about the squad's extreme rhetoric.
00:24:42.000This has morphed now into a tripartite battle between AOC and the Squad for supremacy in the House and Nancy Pelosi, and then versus Donald Trump, who has created an alliance between Pelosi and AOC for purposes of opposing Trump, right?
00:24:54.000That was the battle as of most of yesterday.
00:24:56.000The RNC released an ad highlighting how radical the Squad are.
00:24:59.000So this features AOC and Tlaib and Omar and Ayanna Pressley.
00:25:05.000The United States is running concentration camps on our southern border.
00:25:11.000If this organization is as fascist as you have called it, and you have said it's fascist, then why don't you adopt the stance to eliminate it?
00:25:21.000Your colleague who was at the border with you compared the facilities to a concentration camp.
00:25:55.000OK, so this is a much more cohesive and coherent attack on the squad, right?
00:26:00.000This is attacking them on their policy.
00:26:02.000This is attacking them on the things that they have said.
00:26:05.000And then President Trump launched an attack on Ilhan Omar that the media really couldn't stand.
00:26:09.000He mentioned the fact that she may have engaged in immigration fraud with her brother.
00:26:11.000Now, the actual accusation is not that she engaged in immigration fraud, but that she was trying to engage in immigration fraud so that her brother could illegally immigrate to the United States.
00:26:19.000Here was President Trump sort of throwing off the cuff.
00:26:24.000Well, there's a lot of talk about the fact that she was married to her brother.
00:26:34.000I don't know, but I'm sure that somebody would be looking at that.
00:26:40.000Literally, there was an article in the Minneapolis Star Tribune, which is as mainstream a newspaper as it gets, talking about Ilhan Omar's marriage and exactly who she was married to and why she filed taxes as married to one person when she was legally married to another person.
00:26:54.000The UK Daily Mail has a piece today called, I am legally married to one and culturally to another.
00:26:58.000How Ilhan Omar desperately tried to shut down accusations of bigamy amid claims she was briefly married to her brother to commit immigration fraud while she was still with her current husband.
00:27:08.000See, I'm not legally married to two people, but I am legally married to one and culturally married to another.
00:27:12.000That's how Ilhan Omar's campaign spokesman, Ben Goldfarb, summarized Omar's conjugal arrangements in an email in August 2016, when Omar was running for Congress and her advisors were trying to stifle allegations of double marriage with a man alleged to be her brother.
00:27:25.000Omar supplied this email to the Minnesota Campaign and Public Disclosure Board investigation into her campaign financing.
00:27:31.000That investigation concluded on June 6th.
00:27:34.000It revealed that in 2014 and 2015, Omar may have broken federal and state law by filing a joint tax return with her husband, Ahmed Abdelas Abdessalon Hersey, when she was married to another man.
00:27:44.000Conservative journalists in Minnesota raised the bigamy allegations in 2016.
00:27:48.000And in fact, there's another story that is out today from Pajamas Media.
00:27:52.000David Steinberg has been the reporter who's all over this over at PJ Media.
00:27:55.000Pointing out that the marriage is a mess.
00:28:00.000That all this marital stuff is a mess.
00:28:02.000It says, immediately after being elected to her current seat in 2016, Omar faced allegations, soon backed by a remarkable amount of evidence, that she had married her own brother in 2009 and was still legally his wife.
00:28:11.000They officially divorced in December 2017.
00:28:13.000The motivation for the marriage remains unclear.
00:28:16.000However, the totality of the evidence points to possible immigration fraud and student loan fraud.
00:28:20.000Representative Omar had stated that she did marry British citizen Ahmed Noor Saeed Elmi in 2009.
00:28:26.000She has said the allegation he is her brother is absurd and offensive.
00:28:29.000They say below, exclusive new evidence from official archived high school records and corroborating sources strongly support the claim that Ahmed Noor Saeed Elmi is indeed her brother.
00:28:38.000As this implicates Representative Omar in multiple state and federal felonies, I have contacted the U.S.
00:28:42.000Attorney's Office in Minnesota to submit All other information uncovered during our investigation.
00:28:47.000According to official student enrollment records archived by St.
00:28:49.000Paul Public Schools in the state of Minnesota, an Ahmed N. Elmi was enrolled as a senior in the class of 2003 at Arlington Senior High School in St.
00:28:58.000From 2002 until 2003, he graduated and received a diploma.
00:29:02.000The enrollment record gives his birthday.
00:29:03.000Both Ilhan Omar's 2009 marriage document and her 2017 divorce proceedings say that her husband was born the same day as this person registered Ahmed N. Elmi.
00:29:12.000There was no other person named Ahmed Noor Saeed Elmi, Ahmed and Elmi, or even Ahmed Elmi with the birth date, April 4th, 1985 in Minnesota.
00:29:20.000The man Ilhan Omar married and the 17 to 18 year olds who attended Arlington Senior High School are one and the same.
00:29:26.000This person was a minor for most of the school year.
00:29:28.000His parents and legal guardian were listed on his enrollment records along with his home address and telephone number.
00:29:33.000He shared that address, telephone number, and parental Authority with Ilhan Omar.
00:29:39.000So that is the evidence that is being put out there.
00:29:41.000So the media say, well, Ilhan Omar's denied it.
00:30:10.000There are lots of bad members of Congress.
00:30:11.000Ilhan Omar is in a class by herself when it comes to being a bad member of Congress, but she is a duly elected member of Congress.
00:30:17.000And this is where we get to the other side of the aisle.
00:30:20.000So the Democrats are happy to defend bigotry and nastiness and ugliness and stupidity and virulent anti-Semitism from members of their own party.
00:30:28.000They will not stand strong as Nancy Pelosi has not stood strong.
00:30:32.000On the Republican side of the aisle, this does not justify the behavior of people who are saying things to duly elected members of Congress and American citizens like, send her back.
00:30:45.000I mean, I think our politics could use a little bit more adulthood.
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00:33:42.000So all of this hubbub inside the Democratic Party, this back and forth, the AOC versus Pelosi, then Trump jumping in in a terrible fashion, and then the Democrats returning to attacking each other and moving incredibly fast to the radical left.
00:34:00.000All of this leads up to President Trump's rally last night.
00:34:02.000President Trump's rally last night is an opportunity for him to make the case for his own presidency and to, yes, to point out the radicalism of the left without reiterating the stupidity of his original Tweet on Sunday in which he said that women who were born in the United States or who are legal immigrants to the United States with citizenship and duly elected in their districts should go back to their home countries.
00:34:39.000It may not be a good argument, but it is a certainly frequently common argument in the United States.
00:34:43.000And it is important to note that that is well within the realm of traditional political discourse, given the fact that Barack Obama's administration called members of the Tea Party terrorists.
00:34:52.000And we are routinely on the right called Nazis by members of the media as mainstream conservatives, routinely called Nazis and bigots.
00:34:59.000And we are constantly, it's constantly suggested that we are un-American and awful.
00:35:04.000It's a saying to people, if you don't love it, you can always leave.
00:35:08.000That's not quite the same thing as go back to your home country to people who were born in the United States and also to people who are legal immigrants from places like Somalia, which really is one of the worst places on Earth.
00:35:18.000OK, so Trump gets to make his case last night.
00:35:21.000And as I've said about President Trump before.
00:35:24.000President Trump is a stand-up comedian.
00:35:26.000And what that means is that he reacts to the crowd that's in the room.
00:35:28.000If you've ever seen a Trump rally in its entirety, basically it is a stand-up comedy act punctuated by politics for an hour.
00:35:34.000He goes out there, people say things in the crowd, he reacts to the crowd, he's playing with the crowd.
00:35:39.000Trump really likes when the crowd likes him, and so I've never seen him, under any circumstances, rebuke a crowd.
00:36:02.000This happens at my college speeches fairly frequently, where a couple thousand people will be there, somebody will get up to ask a question, and people will start booing the questioner, and I'll say, guys, you need, like, stop.
00:36:16.000Now, I know that there are a lot of folks on the right who are hearkening back to the days of John McCain, when John McCain was at a rally and somebody suggested that Obama was a Muslim and John McCain correctly said, no, Barack Obama is an American and he is not a Muslim.
00:36:31.000That was the morally correct thing to do.
00:36:32.000He did not lose the election because of that.
00:36:34.000He lost the election because the economy tanked two months before the election.
00:36:37.000And he lost the election because Barack Obama was given better media treatment than any candidate in the history of the United States.
00:36:42.000And he lost the election because Barack Obama was a uniquely talented candidate.
00:36:45.000He did not lose John McCain because he didn't stand there and nod as the person called Obama a Muslim.
00:36:50.000That is not why John McCain lost, but there is this mythos that has been built up around the sort of Trump-McCain comparison, where it's the reason that McCain and Romney lost is because they didn't fight, because they didn't fight.
00:37:01.000OK, well, there is truth, I think, to the idea that McCain and Romney did not pull out the hatchet and go after Barack Obama with enough alacrity.
00:37:39.000And he starts with some of his greatest hits.
00:37:41.000He starts kind of hilariously by thanking Democrats who voted against impeachment because highlighting the Democratic split is obviously smart politics.
00:37:48.000The Democrats are so split over Trump that yesterday there was a vote in the House of Representatives To impeach President Trump or to force a vote on impeachment on President Trump.
00:38:00.00095 Democrats voted in favor, despite the fact that the impeachment resolution did not even include a rationale for impeaching Trump.
00:38:06.000It didn't include a legal rationale, any high crimes, any misdemeanors.
00:38:09.000It was basically that he was just divisive.
00:38:12.000The grounds for the impeachment were that he was a meanie.
00:38:17.000That he had retweeted certain videos and that he had banned transgender people from serving in the military and that he criticized NFL players who knelt during the national anthem.
00:39:49.000And Trump could have played anything the crowd did as a joke.
00:39:52.000Instead, he's playing this dynamic where he makes a joke, the crowd laughs, he makes a joke, the crowd laughs, the crowd starts chanting, and he kind of goes along with it.
00:39:59.000That was the dynamic at the rally last night.
00:40:01.000So Trump then went on to highlight all of Ilhan Omar's record, which again, is fine.
00:40:07.000Ilhan Omar is a key member of Congress.
00:40:09.000For people saying, well, she's just one of 435.
00:40:12.000Is that why she was on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine?
00:40:14.000Is that why the entire mainstream media are mirroring her comments every week for the last several?
00:40:20.000Is that why the New York Times, when she said something openly anti-Semitic, suggested that she was just reopening debate about the role of AIPAC in American public life?
00:41:20.000And again, he is not incorrect to highlight her record.
00:41:23.000She is a leading member of the Democratic Congress and Nancy Pelosi is bowing before her and allowing her to run roughshod over the rest of the Congress.
00:41:30.000And she's doing the same with the squad.
00:41:32.000And when she tried to stand up, the squad basically shouted her down.
00:41:36.000And Trump sort of helped them by highlighting them and forcing Nancy Pelosi to back their play.
00:41:40.000So that's what led up to the most controversial moment of the last week.
00:41:44.000In the middle of this rally, Trump is speaking about Ilhan Omar, and the crowd starts chanting, send her back.
00:41:49.000I'll play the clip and then I'll explain why this is so wrong, why this is un-American, why this is bad.
00:41:55.000Omar has a history of launching vicious anti-Semitic screeds.
00:42:02.000OK, now this is where we have gone across the line.
00:42:12.000So this is where Trump should say, no, not send her back, vote her out.
00:42:15.000That's where he should step in and say something, and he doesn't, and it's wrong of him not to do so.
00:42:49.000I think she's a terrible congressperson.
00:42:50.000I think that virtually every word that emanates from her mouth is toxic.
00:42:54.000I think that she says things about America and says things about terrorism and says things about Israel that are just garbage in every possible way.
00:43:53.000You can't deport American citizens with whom you disagree.
00:43:57.000And I'm just going to ask you for a second to put the shoe on the other foot.
00:44:00.000Let's say that Barack Obama in 2010 had said about a Tea Partier that you should, that the crowd at one of his rallies had started chanting, deport him.
00:44:11.000How do you think that would have gone?
00:44:12.000Would that have been a good thing or a bad thing?
00:44:15.000Now, people today are doing the same routine that they always do with President Trump and that they always do with sort of the Trump movement.
00:44:22.000And that is, guys, you can't take them totally seriously.
00:44:28.000It was probably some dolt in the crowd who starts chanting and then a bunch of people start chanting because this is what happens when you have large crowds of people nearby, right?
00:44:39.000I don't think it's a bunch of people in that crowd who are sitting there thinking through, yeah, you know, should we or should we not call for the deportation of an American citizen?
00:44:48.000I really don't think that's what happened.
00:44:49.000I think somebody started chanting, send her back on an emotional level.
00:44:52.000And then everybody started chanting, send her back.
00:44:54.000And then Trump just stood there and took it.
00:44:56.000Regardless, the chant can still be immoral, and the idea that you're supposed to deport people with whom you disagree, no matter how atrocious their ideas, those ideas are not criminal.
00:45:07.000Ilhan Omar is exercising her First Amendment rights.
00:45:10.000You don't believe in or agree with the First Amendment if you believe that people should be deported for their public views that are not incitement to violence.
00:45:20.000People don't get punished for speech in the United States.
00:45:35.000I spent the first 45 minutes of the show condemning Pelosi.
00:45:39.000I understand people who are like, well, the media are paying outsized attention to a crowd chant.
00:45:43.000Why won't they pay attention to the fact that Democrats for years called Republicans Nazis and AOC says it's a concentration camp down on the border and members of ICE are like Nazis.
00:45:51.000I share your frustration, obviously, because I've sounded off on it.
00:45:58.000But just because the other side is doing a bad thing does not mean that you should do a bad thing.
00:46:03.000And yes, it is morally wrong to suggest that Ilhan Omar should be deported.
00:46:07.000It is morally wrong to suggest that an American citizen, no matter how much I dislike her, no matter how much I dislike her ideas, should be deported.
00:46:14.000This is still a country where disagreement is supposed to be met with disagreement, not with threats of legal action.
00:46:21.000And again, if you say, well, oh, well, it's just a crowd, the crowd chants things, it's like shouting at the umpire at a baseball game, everybody's there to have a good time.
00:47:46.000There's little in this world that I dread more than the idea of that happening.
00:47:51.000And by the way, I think one of the ways that you make that happen is by alienating every suburban voter in America with the most extreme rhetoric you can possibly imagine on the right.
00:47:58.000I think that is probably a mistake, electorally.
00:48:01.000But beyond that, you know what I really do dread?
00:48:03.000I dread that we are coming to the point in the country where The obvious solution to your opponents opposing you is to suggest that they are the worst human beings who have yet walked the earth.
00:48:19.000Instead, it's just a matter of who wins and who loses, and everything is on the table.
00:48:23.000That is the end of Republican conversation.
00:48:25.000I mean, small r, Republican conversation.
00:48:28.000So, as much as I care about Republican policies, and I do, as much as I care about conservative policies, and I certainly do, the predicate for all of that is a functioning system, a functioning polity, and I fear that the fraying is growing at an extraordinarily rapid rate.
00:48:43.000Okay, time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.
00:49:24.000I mean, there were significant arguments, but there was a fundamental recognition that they were all part of the same cause.
00:49:30.000And I fear that we are losing that fundamental recognition.
00:49:33.000And again, that recognition does not require that you believe that Ilhan Omar believes in the same causes you do.
00:49:37.000I don't believe she believes in the same causes that you do.
00:49:40.000But I believe that the cause itself, which is that people who disagree should not be deported, is more important than whatever Ilhan Omar thinks.
00:49:47.000Agreement to disagree lies at the fundamental root of the country.
00:49:52.000And then it's a question of how do you convince people through Conversation and through social measures.
00:49:59.000How do you convince people to believe in virtue?
00:50:04.000We may be reaching the post-liberal era where the only thing that matters is everybody agreeing with you, but I think that it requires both.
00:50:10.000I don't think you can discard liberalism, the idea that people are allowed to disagree, and keep the virtue, and I don't think that you can discard the virtue and keep the liberalism.
00:50:18.000I think that the left basically wants to discard the virtue and keep the liberalism, and the right, some on the right, want to discard the liberalism and keep the virtue.
00:50:27.000I don't think that these mutually supportive bulwarks can maintain I don't think the country can maintain in the absence of either one of those polls.
00:50:35.000Okay, time for a quick thing that I hate.
00:50:42.000Okay, so there is a piece in the New York Times Magazine called, I wanted to know what white men thought about their privilege.
00:50:46.000So I asked by a Yale professor of poetry named Claudia Rankine.
00:50:56.000And she talks at the beginning about all of the various writers that she's that she's read and recommended to her class.
00:51:01.000She's talked about the history of racism in the United States.
00:51:04.000Obviously, she says, I needed to slowly unpack and understand how whiteness was created.
00:51:09.000How did the Naturalization Act of 1790, which restricted citizenship to any alien being a free white person, develop over the years into our various immigration acts?
00:51:17.000What has it taken to cleave citizenship from free white person?
00:51:20.000What was the trajectory of the KKK after its formation at the end of the Civil War?
00:51:24.000What was his relationship to the Black Codes?
00:51:26.000Those laws subsequently passed in southern states.
00:51:28.000Now listen, I'm all for knowing American history and for looking at the ugly parts of American history and for recognizing the role of the KKK and the role of white supremacy and all of this.
00:51:38.000I think that reading that into modern American history and suggesting there is innately A relationship between the Naturalization Act of 1790 and becoming a citizen in 2019 is a massive, massive stretch.
00:51:50.000But that's not what is, I think, silly about the piece.
00:51:54.000The part that is silly about the piece is that this lady just tells a bunch of stories.
00:52:00.000About her confrontations in airport lines.
00:52:45.000Later, when I discussed this moment with my therapist, she told me she thought the man's statement was in response to his flight mate, not me.
00:52:52.000That's why he could step in front of me in the first place.
00:52:54.000His embarrassment, if it was embarrassment, had everything to do with how he was seen by a person who did matter, his white male companion.
00:53:00.000I was allowing myself to have too much presence in his imagination, she said.
00:53:05.000Was my total invisibility preferable to a targeted insult?
00:53:09.000If you want to look for instances of American racism and people who are racist in America, there are instances.
00:53:13.000If you are talking to your therapist about that time a guy said something mean to you in an airport line, it's called welcome to being at an airport.
00:53:20.000I have very little doubt that this person would have said the same thing if this were a white lady.
00:53:25.000Because he was called out for being a jerk, and then he was embarrassed at being called out for being a jerk.
00:53:37.000Says that he's a jerk, but this article is an exercise in navel-gazing and trying to discern American history and the role of American history by looking at your belly button.
00:53:56.000It is all narrative stories that can be interpreted in several different ways, and then we're supposed to take away from this that her particular perspective on American racism is the correct one.
00:54:07.000And she talks about, and she talks about all of this.
00:54:09.000She says, how angry could I be at the white man on the plane?
00:54:12.000The one who glanced at me each time he stood up on the way, he stood up, the way you look at a stone you had tripped on.
00:54:17.000I understood that the man's behavior was also his socialization.
00:54:19.000So now, it's not that the guy is responsible for being a racist.
00:54:22.000It's that all of society is responsible for this guy being a racist.
00:54:25.000But don't worry, she has other stories from the airplane.
00:54:28.000Really, it's thousands of words long, all about this woman's, this Yale professor's stories from being treated nastily on an airplane.
00:54:36.000Although I will say some of these stories don't look great for her.
00:54:38.000She says, I was waiting in another line for access to another plane in another city as another group of white men approached.
00:54:43.000When they realized they would have to get behind a dozen or so people already in line, they simply formed their own line next to us.
00:54:49.000I said to the white man standing in front of me, now that is the height of white male privilege.
00:54:52.000He laughed and remained smiling all the way to his seat.
00:54:57.000I don't know if it was the same thing for each of us, the same recognition of racialized privilege, but I could live with that polite form of unintelligibility.
00:55:04.000No, probably he was laughing and he thought that you were joking because he thought, you've got to be kidding me.
00:55:16.000People are constantly forming lines to the side at airports and doing rude things.
00:55:21.000And so if somebody turned to me and there was like a separate line forming and I was in it, they're like, that's the height of white male privilege.
00:55:30.000This is an airport where people are rude.
00:55:33.000But apparently, this is the old Adam Carolla line, that if you are black and you're pulled over by a cop unfairly, your immediate response is probably to think, because of the narrative and because of American history, it's because law enforcement is racist.
00:55:45.000If you're white and you're pulled over by a cop wrongly, your first instinct is to say it's because the guy's a jerk.
00:55:50.000Now, there are many more jerks than racists in American life.
00:55:54.000So statistically speaking, It is more likely the person's jerk.
00:55:57.000That's the same thing in this particular case.
00:55:59.000She says, I found the suited men who refused to fall in line exhilarating and amusing as well as obnoxious.
00:56:03.000Watching them was like watching a spontaneous play about white male privilege in one act.
00:56:56.000As I became more and more frustrated with myself, writes this Yale professor, for avoiding asking my question, I wondered if presumed segregation in business or first class should have been number 47 on Macintosh's list.
00:57:06.000Macintosh is the creator of white privilege.
00:57:14.000I was a black woman in the company of mostly white men, in seats that allowed for both proximity and separate spaces.
00:57:19.000The flight attendant brought drinks to everyone around me, but repeatedly forgot my orange juice.
00:57:24.000Telling myself orange juice is sugar and she might be doing the post-cancer body a favor, I just nodded when she apologized the second time.
00:57:29.000The third time, she walked by without the juice.
00:57:31.000The white man sitting next to me said to her, This is incredible.
00:57:34.000You have brought me two drinks in the time you have forgotten to bring her one.
00:57:37.000She immediately returned with the juice.
00:59:43.000Was he snapping the white privilege flag in my face?
00:59:46.000Should I have asked him why he had an expectation his son should be admitted early, without delay, without pause, without waiting?
00:59:51.000Should I have asked how he knew a person of color took his son's seat and not another white son of one of these many white men sitting around us?
00:59:58.000Well, Yale has an affirmative action program.
01:00:24.000That means that he is pointing out an obvious fact that has been true since Bakke in the United States.
01:00:29.000It's been true for literally decades that if colleges are admitting people on the basis of race, then that means that other peoples are being excluded on the basis of race.
01:01:13.000She goes, "Perhaps the clarification was intended to make it clear that he wasn't speaking right now about black people and their forms of affirmative action.
01:01:21.000I asked, "I've been thinking about white male privilege, and I wonder if you think about yours or your son's." It almost seemed to be a non sequitur to be rolled with it.
01:01:29.000I've worked hard for everything I have." And then she goes on to talk about how no white man has actually worked hard for everything that he has.
01:01:37.000What was it that Justice Brett Kavanaugh said at his Supreme Court confirmation hearing?
01:01:44.000I got there by busting my tail in college.
01:01:46.000He apparently believed this despite the fact that his grandfather went to Yale.
01:01:49.000I couldn't tell by looking at the man I was sitting next to, but I wondered if he was an ethnic white rather than a white Anglo-Saxon Protestant.
01:01:54.000Do you understand how dumb it is to think like this and how ugly it is to think like this in the United States?
01:01:58.000That if you say, I worked really hard to get where I've gone, That somebody looks at you and they say, really?
01:02:07.000Demonstrate how my Jewish family is benefiting from white privilege.
01:02:12.000Now, if you want to say that there is systemic racism that has existed in the United States against black folks, And you also want to say that that has outsized impact over time.
01:02:22.000I think that's an argument that can be made, although I think that you'd have to argue about the outsized impact.
01:04:20.000All I could think to say was, ain't I a black woman?
01:04:23.000Okay, like, I don't know how you have a conversation with a person like this.
01:04:27.000I really don't, Claudia Rankine, the professor at Yale.
01:04:29.000Because everything you do is going to be psychoanalyzed for a thousand reasons.
01:04:33.000And without any truth to it, it's her projecting her own vision of what you should be onto you or what you are truly saying onto you.
01:04:39.000This is one of the things that separates Americans from Americans is the determination to attribute motives to people without proper evidence for those motives.
01:04:56.000If you want to say that the guy's probably a beneficiary of white privilege and racism because he says he doesn't see color, I'm going to suggest that that's way worse for the country and an actual problem for the country.
01:05:07.000Okay, well, we will be back here a little bit later today with two additional hours of content, or we will see you tomorrow here on The Ben Shapiro Show.
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