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00:00:22.000And now he says that all of America is evil and racist, which is why a white man like Beto O'Rourke should be president of the United States.
00:00:56.000If you look at the polls right now, Joe Biden continues to maintain a fairly solid lead in the actual primary polling.
00:01:02.000So right now, if you look at that real clear politics poll average, which is the only one that really matters at this point because it's so early, Joe Biden is leading the rest of the field by an average of about 12 points.
00:01:14.000There's an Economist YouGov poll that came out yesterday and that showed him up only four points over Elizabeth Warren.
00:01:19.000But there was an Emerson poll that came out the day before and showed him up 15 points over Elizabeth Warren and the rest of the field.
00:01:25.000That Economist YouGov poll had the race currently at Joe Biden, 22, Elizabeth Warren, 18, Kamala Harris, 15, and Bernie Sanders, 12.
00:01:33.000It's pretty obvious that Bernie Sanders is starting to feel the effect of Elizabeth Warren on his flank, and he is starting to drop voters to her.
00:01:41.000Well, Joe Biden, instead of strongly campaigning toward the middle and maintaining his brand and basically saying, come get me, guys, Come over here and get me.
00:01:53.000Instead, he is swiveling into what the rest of the Democratic Party wants from him.
00:01:59.000So he is swiveling toward the, quote unquote, majority of the Democratic base.
00:02:03.000Now, it is true that only a plurality of the Democratic base is, quote unquote, moderate.
00:02:08.000It's true that a majority of the Democratic base is probably what we would call progressive, maybe even radical.
00:02:13.000But that progressive base is going to splinter.
00:02:16.000There's not one candidate for them to rally around.
00:02:18.000And in fact, the moderate candidate in the last few Democratic presidential cycles has actually seemed to do better in the primaries than the person who's perceived as more radical.
00:02:27.000That was true in 2004 with John Kerry.
00:02:29.000It wasn't true in 2008 with Barack Obama, but that's because Barack Obama followed the most simple rule of American politics, run against Hillary Clinton.
00:02:36.000That is the number one rule of American politics.
00:02:38.000If you run against Hillary Clinton in anything but a New York Senate race, you will win.
00:03:12.000I know it feels like it's been years, but it's only been two and a half, three months since Joe Biden jumped into the race with an ad that he launched by talking about the historic greatness of America, not about historic evil of America.
00:03:23.000And then he is very quickly shifted over to his left in an attempt to crowd out the rest of the field.
00:03:28.000Instead, He has been sucked into the rest of the field.
00:03:31.000I think he was seeing this race as sort of an Indy 500.
00:03:34.000He was going to swivel out toward the far lanes, drive everybody into the wall.
00:03:40.000Instead, what has happened is he drove himself directly into a car crash, and now he is involved in that car crash.
00:03:47.000And he keeps getting more and more radical in his commentary, and it ain't going to help him.
00:03:53.000Yesterday, Joe Biden, there's tape of him, I guess this happened on Sunday, Joe Biden was asked about cutting prison populations in the United States.
00:04:01.000Now, Joe Biden was responsible for a crime bill in 1994.
00:04:08.000That was dramatically helpful in decreasing the crime rates around the United States.
00:04:11.000I know that we like to forget history conveniently.
00:04:14.000The fact is, between 1960 and 1994, we had one of the greatest surges in crime in the history of the United States.
00:04:19.000Probably the greatest surge in crime, violent crime, in the history of the United States.
00:04:24.000Murder rates were at extraordinary highs in most of America's major cities.
00:04:28.000They'd risen dramatically across the country.
00:04:30.000And in 1994, the federal government decided that they were going to crack down on a fair number of crimes and provide new resources for policing to states and localities.
00:04:38.000And the crime rate began a historic reversal.
00:05:04.000Well, the nice thing about saying let's let everybody out of prison is that you never actually have to deal with what happens when bunches of people are let out of prison.
00:05:13.000You get to pose yourself as some sort of human rights activist while allowing criminals to wander free on the streets.
00:05:18.000We've seen this in the state of California.
00:05:20.000Jerry Brown, the former governor in the state of California, He participated in something called prison realignment instead of providing new funding that was necessary to keep prisoners in prison.
00:05:36.000The quality of life has gone down dramatically with regard to everything from street crime to violent crime as well and drug crime too.
00:05:44.000All of this is a serious problem, but we're supposed to ignore it because we falsify the stats.
00:05:49.000It is very easy for Aside from murder, it's very easy to falsify statistics when it comes to crime statistics because police departments will be told by mayors that they need to simply reclassify crimes in different ways and report them differently in order to artificially lower the crime rates.
00:06:04.000But you can tell in terms of quality of life that California has had a rough time since prison realignment.
00:06:08.000We're going to get to what Joe Biden had to say in just one second.
00:06:11.000It is fully insane because this is where he thinks the Democratic Party is.
00:06:15.000It's like kind of Donald Trump back in 2016 speaking conservatism as a second language.
00:06:19.000Donald Trump has turned out to govern pretty conservatively.
00:06:21.000He doesn't know much about conservatism.
00:06:23.000And in 2016, Trump did this routine where he would sort of estimate where he thought conservatives lay.
00:06:29.000And so when it came to abortion, for example, he would say, sure, let's prosecute.
00:06:53.000First, it's a hell of a lot easier listening to pundits duke it out over the latest Washington whatever than to take a good hard look at your own finances.
00:07:00.000I know a lot of folks have gotten stuck in serious credit card debt because they haven't been looking at their own finances and this is why you ought to be responsible.
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00:08:05.000Okay, so Joe Biden is now out there proclaiming that he wants to free hundreds of thousands of prisoners.
00:08:12.000Now, this may be popular with folks on the left.
00:08:15.000It has never been popular in American politics to say that you actually want to Free hundreds of thousands of prisoners, including violent criminals.
00:08:24.000Rudy Giuliani became mayor of New York, New York, as far left the city as it is possible to have in the United States.
00:08:30.000Rudy Giuliani became a very popular mayor of New York, specifically on the basis of quality of life issues and crime.
00:08:36.000In Los Angeles, Mayor Richard Reardon did something very similar.
00:08:39.000Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger was basically elected not just because of the Enron energy crisis out here in Los Angeles and in California, but also because of issues with quality of life.
00:08:51.000If you want a Republican elected in a country that is shifting to the left, all you have to do is point to quality of life.
00:08:56.000Bush in 1988 may have won the election based on the perception that Michael Dukakis was soft on crime.
00:09:02.000So, I know that we are now living off the boon, off the bounty, of a 25-year, yeah, 25-year drop in crime rates.
00:09:12.000I understand all of that, but that doesn't mean that the American people are willing to see a reversal of the crime rates based on violent criminals being released from prison.
00:09:19.000Why am I making a big deal out of this?
00:09:20.000Because it's not getting any attention at all.
00:09:22.000I mean, here's Joe Biden saying he, this is an insane vow.
00:09:26.000Here's Joe Biden vowing to cut the prison population in the United States by more than 50%, 5-0%, The ACLU has a roadmap for cutting incarceration by 50% through reforms that have been endorsed by both the right and the left, including four other presidential candidates and many conservatives.
00:09:46.000Do you commit to cutting incarceration by 50% if elected?
00:10:01.000And I've got a better plan than you guys have.
00:10:03.000Okay, the answer is yes, of course, I'm going to reduce prison populations by more than 50%.
00:10:07.000Now, there's a lot of talk in the United States about mass incarceration.
00:10:10.000The reason people talk about mass incarceration on the left, particularly, is because a disproportionate number of people in prison, disproportionate to the population statistics, are of minority descent, are black and Hispanic.
00:10:20.000And this is supposedly a reference to America's deep-seated criminal justice racism.
00:10:26.000Well, the reality is that unfortunately a disproportionate number of black and Hispanic people in the United States are committing crimes as a percentage of the population generally.
00:10:34.000And that is true in everything from murder statistics to violent crime.
00:10:39.000There are certain crimes where it's disproportionately white.
00:10:41.000Crystal meth is a disproportionately white crime.
00:10:44.000People who are arrested for crystal meth distribution are disproportionately white.
00:10:48.000There are certain types of white collar crime that are disproportionately white.
00:10:52.000But when you're talking about violent crime, if you're talking about murder, for example, the people who are committing murder are disproportionately of minority races.
00:11:02.000That is not a statement about race innately being linked to crime.
00:11:06.000It is just pointing out that if you are arresting a disproportionate number of people from a population group, That is not necessarily a reference to the racism of the system.
00:11:14.000That may be a reference to the people who are actually committing the crimes.
00:11:19.000That's not the fault of the criminal justice system.
00:11:21.000So, and that's the entire basis of the let's-free-hundreds-of-thousands-of-people-from-prison argument, is that the system is inherently racist, and therefore we need to let hundreds of thousands of people out, and we're going to reduce prison populations by 50%.
00:11:33.000So let's look at what the prison populations of the United States actually look like in terms of the crimes that they have committed.
00:11:39.000Because I don't care about the race of people in prison.
00:11:41.000I don't care about the race of people in any industry.
00:11:43.000I don't care about the race of people in the United States generally.
00:11:45.000I'm not interested in the racial demographics of the United States.
00:11:49.000I care much more about what people think and what people do.
00:11:51.000Because I thought we were supposed to not care about people's race because that's called racism.
00:11:55.000So instead, let's focus on what people have done to get themselves in prison.
00:11:58.000Now, we can all agree, if somebody is innocent and in prison, they should not be in prison.
00:12:03.000So the question now is, which guilty criminals should we allow to go free?
00:12:07.000Because that's what Joe Biden is talking about.
00:12:09.000He's not suggesting that lots of innocent people are in prison.
00:12:11.000He is suggesting that a lot of people who have been convicted of actual crimes ought to go free.
00:12:15.000And he says more than 50% should be released.
00:12:16.000So let's look at the actual percentages of people who are in prison.
00:12:20.000So first of all, the vast majority of people in prison, and by the vast majority, I mean 13 out of every 15 people who are in prison, are in state prisons, not federal penitentiaries.
00:12:30.000And most crimes that are committed in the United States are state-level crimes.
00:12:33.000And most of those crimes happen to be violent crimes.
00:12:36.000Contrary to popular opinion, the vast majority of crimes for which people are in jail are not people who are picked up for smoking dope on the street.
00:12:45.000When you look at the state prisons, this is information from the Prison Policy Initiative, which is a fairly left-wing group on prison policy.
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00:12:59.000State prisons currently hold about 1.3 million people.
00:13:01.000712,000 of those people are in prison for violent crimes.
00:13:07.000137,000 for assault, 172,000 for robbery, 163,000 for rape or sexual assault, 18,000 for manslaughter, 179,000 for murder.
00:13:09.000172,000 for robbery, 163,000 for rape or sexual assault, 18,000 for manslaughter, 179,000 for murder.
00:13:17.000So that means the single largest plurality of people who are in prison for violent crime are in for murder.
00:13:23.000So that's a lot of people who ought to be in prison.
00:13:27.000It seems to me if you commit an assault or robbery, a rape or sexual assault, manslaughter or murder, there's a very solid case that you should be in prison.
00:13:32.000And that represents over half of the people who are in state prisons.
00:13:35.000Then there are another 235,000 people who are in state prison for a property crime.
00:13:40.000And that would be fraud, burglary, theft, car theft, other property.
00:13:48.000Okay, about 200,000 people are in prison for drug, for drug possession, for drug crimes.
00:13:54.000The vast majority of those people are not in for drug possession.
00:13:58.000First of all, most of the time when people are in prison for drug possession, it is because they pled down from drug trafficking.
00:14:02.000It's because a drug dealer was picked up and then cut a plea deal in which they pled guilty to speed up the system and they went to jail for drug possession, which is a lower sentence.
00:14:15.000And the vast majority of those people, even the ones who plead guilty to drug possession, are not actually going to jail for drug possession.
00:14:23.000Other drug crimes represent the vast majority, as in 75% of all the people who are in state prison for drug crimes.
00:14:29.000And then you have 151,000 people who are in jail on the basis of what they call public order offenses, which is, for example, weapons possession, possession of illegal weapons, or driving under the influence.
00:14:42.000So which of those people do you feel like ought to be released?
00:14:44.000According to Joe Biden, half those people ought to be released.
00:14:48.000And since over half of those people are in prison for violent crimes, that means that if you were to release everyone who is not in prison for a violent crime on the state level, Everyone.
00:14:58.000That would still only represent about 40% of the people who are in state prison, so you still have to have another 10% coming from somewhere.
00:15:04.000That means you would have to release about 118,000, by this chart, 118,000 violent criminals onto the streets of the United States.
00:15:11.000You think it's going to make America a better place or a worse place to have violent criminals walking around?
00:15:15.000Okay, so let's even assume that we're talking about federal prisons and jails.
00:15:19.000So if you look at federal prisons and jails, what you see Is that contrary again to popular opinion, the majority of people who are in federal prison are in federal prison for non-drug offenses.
00:15:32.000Okay, 75,000 people, 76,000 people, according to the Bureau of Prisons, are in prison for drug offensives.
00:15:37.000That represents about 45% of the total number of people in the federal pen for drug offenses.
00:15:42.000Again, the vast majority of those people are not in for drug possession.
00:15:45.000The vast majority of those people are in for drug trafficking, meaning you have a drug dealer on the street who is dealing to kids, right?
00:15:51.000Somebody who is importing Now, if you want to make the case that we ought to legalize drugs in the United States, you want to make the full libertarian case, that's a case I'm willing to hear.
00:16:08.000But if the case that you are making is that there's going to be no negative impact to releasing drug traffickers back onto the streets of the United States, let's hear that case, gang.
00:16:19.000I can see the costs and the benefits of this particular case, but I'm not feeling that people are making honest arguments about this sort of stuff.
00:16:25.000There will be costs to releasing drug traffickers back onto the streets.
00:16:29.000Those people are not generally going to go get a job at the local Walgreens.
00:16:33.000Many of those people are going to go right back to crime.
00:16:36.000The recidivism rate in the United States is extraordinarily high.
00:16:40.000The recidivism rate for many crimes in the United States is upward of 75 or 80 percent.
00:16:48.000According to a 2012 report by the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, more than 65% of people released from California's prison system are back in prison within three years.
00:17:00.000According to the National Statistics on Recidivism, The National Institute of Justice reporting 60% of arrests occurred during the years four through nine.
00:17:10.000An estimated 68% of all released prisoners were arrested within three years, 79% within six years, 83% within nine years.
00:17:20.000Those recidivism rates are incredibly, incredibly high.
00:17:22.000So let's not pretend that these folks are going to go back to living a life of crime-free existence.
00:17:31.000If we could pick and choose which ones would, then there's a case for early release for those people.
00:17:35.000But if you're just talking about blanket release of an enormous number of people, like Joe Biden is apparently talking about, releasing half the prison population, Good luck with all of that.
00:18:02.000And people should use it as a tool, but I'm not really, not really going to impose forced busing from above.
00:18:10.000In other words, right now, the Democratic Party primary is a bunch of virtue signaling.
00:18:14.000And if people take that virtue signaling as an actual platform, they're going to be scared to death, which is the reason that the polls for President Trump I've been rising consistently in the general election numbers.
00:18:25.000There's a very good poll out for President Trump yesterday from Emerson, and it showed a bunch of head-to-heads of Democrats.
00:18:31.000Now, in most of the head-to-heads prior to this, Trump had been in a little bit of trouble against most of the Democrats, although there is a trend.
00:18:39.000The trend is that Trump is basically even with all the Democrats except for Biden.
00:19:14.000Buttigieg and Trump tied at 47, according to the ABC News Washington Post poll from Sunday.
00:19:20.000And then those results are mirrored in the Emerson poll.
00:19:22.000So according to the Emerson poll, Biden is up six.
00:19:24.000He's the only one with a clear lead on Trump right now.
00:19:27.000Trump actually beats Kamala Harris by two, according to that poll.
00:19:31.000He is behind by two to Bernie Sanders, 51-49.
00:19:35.000He's at 51 against Warren and 51 against Buttigieg.
00:19:38.000In other words, he's hitting numbers that he actually would need to hit in order to retain the presidency.
00:19:42.000This is because the more people see of the Democrats, the more it's a referendum on their radicalism.
00:19:47.000Having Joe Biden out there proclaiming to the sky that he is going to release hundreds of thousands of prisoners onto America's streets.
00:19:54.000Honestly, if Trump doesn't run on that, I don't know what he's doing.
00:19:56.000And I have a feeling that Trump is certainly going to run on the Democrats being extraordinarily weak on crime.
00:20:02.000Everything from their willingness to dump hundreds of thousands of prisoners into the American population, to decriminalizing illegal immigration, which is something they continue to push to do.
00:20:13.000There's something else that's been happening, I'm going to talk about in just a minute, and that is this push from the social left to get corporations to do their bidding as well.
00:20:24.000What we are experiencing right now is not merely a political polarization, it is a cultural polarization that is leading to a breakup in the country.
00:20:33.000And I'm not talking about like full-scale secession, but I'm talking about an increasing feeling that we ought not live in the same country, That is burgeoning on the left and then in response on the right.
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00:22:03.000Alrighty, so as I say, the culture seems to be coming apart.
00:22:06.000So it is not merely that politicians are polarizing because it's primary season.
00:22:10.000And now they have to appeal to the most radical among us.
00:22:13.000Now there's pressure that is being put on private industries to do the same.
00:22:16.000You've seen this with Nike going woke in order not to go broke.
00:22:20.000This is Nike's new strategy is that they are going to be as woke as humanly possible.
00:22:24.000They're going to embrace Colin Kaepernick.
00:22:26.000They're going to suggest that women are somehow put down in American society.
00:22:29.000Well now SunTrust A bank has decided that they are not going to be involved in the private prison industry.
00:22:36.000According to Forbes.com, SunTrust Bank announced this morning they are ready to join other major banks in moving away from the private prison industry in the wake of deep public sentiment against their role in mass incarceration and family detention.
00:22:47.000Sue Malino, chief communications officer of SunTrust Bank said, quote, following an ongoing and deliberate process, SunTrust has decided not to provide future financing to companies that manage private prisons and immigration holding facilities.
00:22:58.000This decision was made after extensive consideration of the views of our stakeholders on this deeply complex issue.
00:23:04.000In other words, a bunch of people whined and suggested it was very bad to fund private prison complexes that are necessary for keeping prisoners there.
00:23:13.000That it would be very bad to have private detention facilities that allow for, you know, more humane detention of illegal immigrants in the United States.
00:23:23.000And we're seeing this from other banks as well.
00:23:24.000We've seen Bank of America direct action against particular groups that it does not like.
00:23:30.000And while you or I may agree on the groups that they don't like, it is very bad policy to have banks rejecting groups not based on illegal activity of the groups, but based on viewpoint discrimination.
00:24:24.000But there are a lot of people On the left, you do not feel the same way.
00:24:28.000And they actually look to corporations to mirror their social justice preferences.
00:24:32.000So if you are a corporation and you feel no blowback from the right when you go woke, but you feel lots of blowback from the left when you do not go woke, you are likely to cater to the left.
00:24:40.000Well, eventually the right is going to get wise to this and they're going to stop buying Nike shoes.
00:24:45.000They're going to stop banking with institutions that they don't like.
00:24:48.000Or, alternatively, they will be expelled from those institutions because the only thing a lot of the left wants is to ban all of this stuff from entering the public square at all.
00:24:57.000They want to use the corporations as their tools.
00:25:00.000They want the corporations to do their dirty work for them.
00:25:03.000That will lead to an alternative market, a resegregation of the political market.
00:25:07.000It's sort of like how this happened in news, right?
00:25:09.000You've seen the Daily Wire spring up on the right and then you've got Huffington Post on the left.
00:25:12.000You're gonna see this happen with non-informational driven exchanges.
00:25:17.000You're gonna see this happen with bigger corporations.
00:25:18.000That's actually very bad for the country.
00:25:21.000You're seeing this happen right now with regard to Home Depot.
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00:26:40.000So as I say, the pressure on these banks to divest from the prison, the so-called prison industrial complex, is coming from the left.
00:26:49.000Ash Scowl, writing for Daily Wire yesterday, points out that during the first round of Democratic presidential debates, Senator Elizabeth Warren slammed private prisons and called for their elimination.
00:26:58.000She said, our criminal and immigration systems are tearing apart communities of color and devastating the poor, including children.
00:27:03.000Okay, first of all, Arresting criminals and taking them out of communities is one of the things that makes it easier to live in a community.
00:27:10.000And if you don't... This weird idea that all these guys who are going to prison for crimes are actually responsible fathers and wonderful family figures, and then they just sort of get randomly plucked up and put in prison.
00:27:22.000I'm not seeing a lot of evidence of this.
00:27:24.000In any case, she claimed that the economy is benefiting a thinner and thinner slice at the top, and she noted people who want to invest in private prisons, but This is not true.
00:27:35.000Private prisons under President Trump have not actually been doing very well.
00:27:38.000CoreCivic, which was formerly Corrections Corporation of America, is down about 25% since Trump's inauguration.
00:27:47.000Bank of America and SunTrust have also announced they would stop financing for-profit prisons.
00:27:52.000There is basically no evidence to suggest that the private prison complex is doing great under President Trump and is benefiting from all of these crime policies or any of that.
00:28:01.000But again, bad information is more important than true information, so long as the bad information gets broader play.
00:28:07.000You're seeing the same thing today with regard to a boycott, a so-called boycott of Home Depot.
00:28:11.000Now, it is important to note, the vast majority of people who say they're going to boycott these companies on the left never do any of this stuff.
00:28:17.000How many of the people who say they're going to boycott Home Depot actually shop at Home Depot?
00:28:52.000That's why they're smart enough to ignore the detractors and just do what they want to do and pander to the people they want to pander to on the left.
00:28:59.000Well, apparently most corporations are not that smart.
00:29:03.000Nonetheless, people are targeting Home Depot.
00:29:45.000All this is doing is polarizing our culture.
00:29:47.000And when we continue in just a second...
00:29:50.000I'm going to show you how even the most anodyne, silly topics like women's soccer have become incredibly polarized and polarized by, frankly, celebrity figures who don't know what the hell they're talking about.
00:29:59.000Megan Rapinoe would be today's key example of a celebrity figure who does not know what the hell she is talking about, contradicts herself all over the place, and is feeded by the media for her trouble because she obviously checks some intersectional boxes.
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00:34:07.000They have collective bargaining rights, and they collectively bargained for a contract two years ago.
00:34:11.000So if they did a bad job negotiating, that would be on them.
00:34:13.000Also, it is true they don't sell as many tickets overall as the men, particularly when you include World Cup years.
00:34:19.000When you include World Cup years, men dramatically outsell the women, like by $10 million.
00:34:23.000So, all of this has been a bunch of nonsense.
00:34:27.000Even the sort of more left-wing publications, the Washington Post, the New York Times, that have been calling for quote-unquote equal pay recognize that women have not actually earned equal pay on the World Cup stage, but they just won it anyway.
00:34:41.000The lead voice in this has been Megan Rapinoe.
00:34:43.000Now, Megan Rapinoe has basically been, since 2016, doing the Colin Kaepernick routine.
00:34:48.000Getting famous off the radical left social justice stuff that she has been pushing.
00:34:54.000And that's the reason why she's really being celebrated today.
00:34:56.000Not because she's a terrific soccer player, which she apparently is.
00:35:00.000But because she is an outspoken lesbian, because she is a very outspoken SJW on so-called equal pay issues, even though, again, she's not really stumping for equal pay, she's stumping for disproportionate pay for women on the basis of media coverage, effectively.
00:35:17.000And she has become this sort of obnoxious advocate for her position.
00:35:20.000The reason I call it obnoxious is because, I'm sorry, but if you go to University of Portland on scholarship for women's soccer and then you're whining about this country, shut up.
00:35:28.000Really, this is a pretty great country when you get to go to college for free because not only do you kick a ball, you kick a ball in a sport people pretend to care about once every four years.
00:35:39.000When I say shut up, by the way, I don't mean that she should be made to be quiet.
00:35:46.000When she's kneeling for the national anthem in a country that is celebrating her as a heroine, she's getting paid millions of dollars to make ads for Nike about how she is a lesbian and outspoken and a soccer player.
00:35:58.000It seems to me you should be sort of grateful for the country that makes all that possible.
00:36:01.000It seems to me you should be pretty happy about the country, not sitting back and talking about how terrible the country is all the time.
00:36:07.000More than that, Rapinoe demonstrates an obvious unwillingness to even talk with anybody on the other side of the aisle.
00:36:13.000Now, before people say, why would she talk with you?
00:36:15.000I'm criticizing her specifically because she has evidenced no desire to have a conversation of any merit or substance on these issues.
00:36:22.000Instead, she appears on media outlets that drool over her and ask her silly, stupid questions and allow her to get away with silly, stupid answers.
00:36:31.000So I want to give you a couple of examples of how Megan Rapinoe is being treated and how she says dumb things on a regular basis.
00:36:36.000And nobody calls her out on it because, again, her intersectional credentials are in order.
00:36:40.000Because even though she grew up, from what I understand, middle to upper class, right?
00:36:45.000I mean, she's playing soccer from the time she was five years old.
00:36:48.000She went to, I believe, a private high school.
00:37:32.000So does that mean, is that an invitation you're taking up?
00:37:34.000I think everyone is interested in going to Washington.
00:37:36.000I think we've always been interested in going to Washington.
00:37:39.000This is such a special moment for us and to be able to, you know, sort of leverage this movement and talk about the things that we want to talk about and to celebrate like this with the leaders of our country is an incredible moment.
00:37:54.000Okay, and then she continued by suggesting that she didn't want to meet with the Trump administration.
00:37:59.000So instead of everybody celebrating together, or maybe her making her point to, you know, people who disagree, maybe she could make an affirmative case.
00:38:05.000Instead, she says she's not going to meet with the administration because she doesn't want to be co-opted or used by the administration.
00:38:10.000Yes, I am sure that that would have been the media coverage.
00:38:12.000Is Megan Rapinoe co-opted by President Trump?
00:38:14.000It wouldn't have been her going to the White House and then mouthing off to Trump about equal pay.
00:38:17.000That would be the smartest thing for her to do.
00:38:32.000Yeah, I don't think anyone on the team has any interest in lending the platform that we've worked so hard to build and the things that we fight for and the way that we live our life.
00:38:44.000I don't think that we want that to be co-opted or corrupted by this administration.
00:38:48.000And going to the White House would be, in your opinion, Risk co-opting or corrupting your message?
00:39:12.000She also said in this interview that she had an immense sense of pride and responsibility by kneeling during the National Anthem.
00:39:18.000Nothing says pride and responsibility quite like kneeling during the National Anthem of a country that has fought for your rights to be an incredibly famous person based on kicking a ball and having the proper leftist messaging.
00:39:30.000Also, Megan Rapinoe suggested that she would only meet with people who agree with her.
00:40:29.000I think in terms of that, that's the easiest way for fans to get involved.
00:40:33.000Oh, you mean that fans can actually create the economic incentives for you to get paid more?
00:40:38.000You mean that capitalism can actually raise your pay?
00:40:42.000So what you're saying is that the reason you're not getting equal pay right now is because you're not making equal money for your league, and the best way for you to raise your pay would be for people to come and purchase tickets and memorabilia from your team, which suggests that this isn't about sexism at all.
00:40:58.000This is about you just complaining about sexism for publicity.
00:41:02.000It's just this sort of stuff, and there's no follow-up there at all, of course.
00:41:05.000And Rachel Maddow is never going to do the follow-up.
00:41:49.000We're talking about gay marriage is legal across the United States by Supreme Court diktat.
00:41:54.000We are talking about Megan Rapinoe is getting million-dollar contracts specifically because of her sexuality.
00:41:59.000And because she is a very, very good soccer player.
00:42:01.000But let's not make any mistake, if she were a very good soccer player, and she were not a very outspoken lesbian, she would be getting fewer contracts.
00:42:08.000Because she is seen as a political figure.
00:42:12.000She's sort of Colin Kaepernick, but with actual talents at her sport.
00:42:16.000So, it's... all of this is obnoxious, but we're supposed to pretend that actually she's quite charming and wonderful.
00:42:22.000That it is not obnoxious to live in the most... to live in the best time for women, in the best time for lesbians, in the best time for women's soccer, in the history of the world, and in the best country in the history of the world for any of those things.
00:42:34.000We're supposed to pretend that actually she's a victim and America's a terrible place so that she can make more money, presumably.
00:42:39.000Okay, meanwhile, quick update on the Jeffrey Epstein story.
00:42:44.000So the Jeffrey Epstein story, there's no real news that is coming out about it.
00:42:47.000People are mostly just fulminating over what's going to happen next.
00:42:50.000So, is Bill Clinton the next shoe to drop?
00:42:53.000Or is Alex Acosta, the Secretary of Labor, the person who is going to feel the brunt?
00:42:59.000A couple of details about the Alexander Acosta connection that are worthy of note here.
00:43:02.000Some information that people haven't really been given or people haven't talked about, and that is what exactly did the Labor Secretary do when he was the federal prosecutor down in Miami, when he was a U.S.
00:43:15.000attorney down in Miami with Jeffrey Epstein?
00:43:17.000So right now people are calling for Acosta to resign.
00:43:20.000Because there seemed to be a sweetheart deal in 2007 between Jeffrey Epstein and Alex Acosta's office of the U.S.
00:43:29.000And in that plea deal, or in the deal, Epstein struck a bargain that included Epstein pleading guilty to two felony solicitation charges, agreeing to 18 months in prison, eventually served 13, and registering as a sex offender.
00:43:42.000The deal also closed an ongoing FBI investigation and kept the case under seal, including by not notifying Epstein's accusers.
00:43:48.000So it's a really, really good deal for Jeffrey Epstein.
00:43:51.000And the person who was working at that office at the time was Alex Acosta, who is now the Secretary of Labor.
00:43:56.000Aaron Blake actually has a really good piece over at the Washington Post talking about what Acosta has said in response to all of this.
00:44:04.000So, Acosta's handling of the case, according to Blake, has been called into question before, but in December, the Miami Herald published a blockbuster story revealing potential deferential treatment that Acosta and other prosecutors gave Epstein's lawyers, especially when it came to keeping the matter private.
00:44:18.000Akasa has readily commented on the matter.
00:44:20.000When he has, he has declined to do so in detail, sometimes citing ongoing litigation and a fading memory.
00:44:25.000He did write a lengthy letter in 2011 and was asked about it in 2017.
00:44:28.000It came up in 2018 at a hearing of the House Appropriations Subcommittee.
00:44:32.000Akasa sent his 2011 letter to the Daily Beast.
00:44:35.000In that letter, he suggested that evidence that came out after the plea deal has led to some revisionist history.
00:44:39.000He said, some may feel the prosecution should have been tougher.
00:44:42.000Evidence has come to light since 2007 that may encourage that view.
00:44:46.000But he said it was the right decision at the time.
00:44:47.000He said, I supported that judgment then.
00:44:49.000Based on the state of the law as it then stood and evidence known at the time, I would support the judgment again.
00:44:54.000In the 2011 letter, Acosta, there's a detail that matters.
00:44:58.000He came out strongly against another controversial aspect of Epstein's treatment.
00:45:01.000Part of the deal was that Epstein would be able to leave jail during the day and then return at night.
00:45:08.000Acosta noted that state authorities were in charge of that, not federal authorities.
00:45:12.000He added that, quote, without doubt, the treatment he received while in state custody undermined the purpose of the jail sentence.
00:45:17.000In 2017, in testimony, he called that arrangement awful.
00:45:21.000Acosta also said that Epstein's lawyers, which included Alan Dershowitz and Ken Starr, were ruthless and willing to dig into the personal lives of prosecutors.
00:45:42.000Acosta has also said that there was a consensus or broadly held feeling within the prosecutor's office that the deal was about as good as they were going to get.
00:45:52.000There was at least one agent who told the Miami Herald that people were very disappointed with that particular deal.
00:45:58.000So I'm sure there will be more information to come out, but it is worthy of note that Acosta, for example, opposed what is obviously the most lenient part of the sentence, which is Epstein being able to leave jail during the day and come back at night.
00:46:10.000Meanwhile, how deeply is Bill Clinton tied in?
00:46:12.000Well, there's a woman who is an expert on underage sex trafficking.
00:46:19.000She was asked on Fox News about Bill Clinton.
00:46:21.000She says, there's another shoe to drop here.
00:46:23.000I know from the pilot logs, and these are pilot logs that, you know, were written by different pilots and at different times, that Clinton went.
00:47:52.000So, as I mentioned yesterday, Mitch McConnell had been hit with an NBC News report that his great-great-grandfathers, two of them, We're slave owners.
00:48:02.000Wow, going back 150 years and finding something in the family tree that you don't like.
00:48:23.000You know, I find myself once again in the same position as President Obama.
00:48:29.000war and has that revelation caused you to change your position on reparations you know i find myself once again in the same position as president obama we both oppose reparations and we both are the descendants of slaveholders 100 true mentioned it yesterday on the show barack obama is descended on his mother's side from slave owners.
00:48:56.000By the way, so is Kamala Harris, apparently.
00:48:57.000Her dad has written about the fact that...
00:49:00.000He is descended from slave owners as well.
00:49:02.000So if this is the way this is going to work, that if somebody in your family treated something wrong, then we are going to hold you to account.
00:49:08.000Good for Mitch McConnell for doing this.
00:49:11.000You can always tell Mitch McConnell knows he's getting off a good line when that slight smile creases the turtle face and suddenly he is dropping, dropping hot fire on people.
00:49:20.000Okay, time for some things that I hate.
00:49:25.000So there are a bunch of candidates who are just hanging around in this Democratic race who should not be hanging around in this Democratic race.
00:49:31.000One of those candidates is Beto O'Rourke.
00:49:33.000Now remember that time when Beto was a serious candidate?
00:49:52.000This is a guy who had raised an enormous amount of money.
00:49:54.000When he jumped into the race, he was polling at nearly 10%.
00:49:59.000Back in January, when he actually jumped in, he was all the way up in some of the polls to 9, 9.5%.
00:50:04.000He was running basically third in the polls.
00:50:08.000He'd gotten up to third in the polls by mid-April.
00:50:12.000It was going Biden, Sanders, and then O'Rourke, and he has just fallen off a cliff all the way down to 2%, and now he is relegated to doing his worst Noam Chomsky impersonation.
00:50:24.000Taking a drag, brah, riding a skateboard, and then talking about how America's the worst, America's terrible and racist, even though you can be a totally unsuccessful congressperson who runs for Senate, marry into wealth, have an incredibly privileged life, go to Columbia University, spend like a decade bro-ing out with your bro-friends, and playing crap gigs around the country while dressed as a sheep.
00:50:47.000Then you can run for city council, congress, senate, lose, and then run for president.
00:50:53.000And if you're Beto, you know it sucks because you're talking to people who are minorities and you assume they also think it sucks.
00:51:00.000This country was founded on white supremacy.
00:51:02.000And every single institution and structure that we have in our country still reflects the legacy of slavery and segregation and Jim Crow and suppression, even in our democracy.
00:51:17.000This is a claim that you keep hearing from the left.
00:51:19.000And I've said before, I think this is a key divide in the American mind right now, that there are a lot of people, mostly on the right, but not entirely, who say that America was founded on good, true, eternal principles.
00:51:29.000We haven't always lived up to those principles.
00:51:31.000But the story of America is about us establishing grand and great principles in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States, and then working to broaden out those principles to apply to the people to whom they always should have been applied to.
00:51:43.000But thanks to cultural standards of the time, they were not fully applied.
00:51:48.000In the line of thinking of this, by the way, is Frederick Douglass, whose speech was quoted out of context by Colin Kaepernick, who knows as much about history as I do about blitz packages.
00:51:59.000And Colin Kaepernick tweeted and quoted Frederick Douglass way out of context.
00:52:05.000Frederick Douglass has a very famous speech when he talked about what the 4th of July meant to the black person in America.
00:52:11.000And he talked about how it didn't apply to the black person in America, but that's because the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were liberty documents that had not been properly read and had not been extended out as they should have been.
00:52:20.000That is, in that line of thinking are an enormous number of civil rights leaders.
00:52:24.000I would say that Martin Luther King was in this line.
00:52:26.000There's a reason why Martin Luther King correctly would use American principles as the greatest defense to his position, and that was effective.
00:52:36.000Then there's another line of thinking, and that's the thinking that basically all the grand and glorious principles of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States, all the talk about natural rights and natural law, all of those things, it was merely a guise, a guise for power politics.
00:52:50.000In this line of thinking, there are two particular strains of relevance.
00:52:55.000So there's a group of people led in the early 20th century by a sociologist and historian named Charles Beard that suggested basically that the founders were a bunch of rich white dudes and they were trying to enshrine their rich whiteness by creating these highfalutin ideals and then using the highfalutin ideals in order to Push their actual agenda, which was to enshrine their own wealth.
00:53:15.000There's the Charles Beard economic analysis of American history.
00:53:20.000But nonetheless, it has become very popular to cite from people ranging from Woodrow Wilson in the early 20th century to Bernie Sanders in the now.
00:53:28.000And then there's the racial aspect, which says America was founded in white supremacy, that when Thomas Jefferson wrote, all men are created equal, he didn't mean black people, which is actually not really true.
00:53:39.000Thomas Jefferson did mean black people, he just didn't want to apply it to black people.
00:53:44.000It's why Thomas Jefferson is a really troubling character in American history, and really symbolizes a lot of the conflicts of American history.
00:53:51.000Jefferson knew what he was writing, and then he proceeded to ignore what he was writing.
00:53:55.000He proceeded to live with the cognitive dissonance.
00:53:57.000Early on in Jefferson's career he was pretty anti-slavery, and then as he became accustomed to having his own slaves, being a slave holder, You know, by most evidence, siring children by Sally Hemings and all of this.
00:54:08.000As he did that, he accustomed himself to living with the cognitive dissonance of participating in an act of evil that he knew was actually deeply wrong.
00:54:16.000But, to suggest that the Founders universally were pro-slavery is untrue.
00:54:20.000To suggest the Founders universally didn't think of black people as people is simply untrue.
00:54:25.000You can read Founders including John Adams talking about all of this.
00:54:30.000Nonetheless, nonetheless, there's this claim made that basically what really undergirds the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence is white supremacy, not that whiteness and white solidarity and degrading of other races was common to an enormous number of people at the time, including in Europe, where slavery was still legal at the time of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States.
00:54:51.000Not only that, but that that was actually at the root of all of this, that the real root rationale for the founding of the country was the preservation of white supremacy.
00:55:00.000Now, the difference is that we all live in sort of the cultural swamp of our times, right?
00:55:04.000A hundred years from now, people will look back on us and look at us as primitives, because that's how everybody has done things for all of human history.
00:55:10.000I think the area in which they're most likely to do that is with regard to the eating of animals.
00:55:15.000I think that over time, and I love eating meat, but I will admit that I think in a hundred years, people are going to look back when we have created better meat substitutes, when we've created the ability to grow protein, animal protein, without actually killing animals.
00:55:29.000They'll look back in a hundred years and go, how could people slaughter animals like that?
00:55:32.000In a hundred years, people will look back at us.
00:55:33.000They'll certainly do this about abortion.
00:55:35.000Within 30 years, people are going to look back at us and say, wait, you people were arguing that you should be able to kill a baby up until the point of birth?
00:55:42.000I mean, those of us who are doing that now.
00:55:45.000But the question is whether that defines the society or whether that is just an aspect of the culture that is taken for granted as sort of the background noise of the culture.
00:55:54.000And does that provide the root of the society, or is that just part of the background noise?
00:55:57.000So, it is true that racism was part of the background noise of society in 1775.
00:56:02.000That was certainly a huge part of society, undeniably.
00:56:07.000Was that what differentiated America from other places?
00:56:09.000What differentiated America from other places is the acknowledgement of those high ideals.
00:56:13.000When Beto O'Rourke says America was founded in white supremacy, what he means is that white supremacy lay at the root Right?
00:56:19.000It was the actual driving force behind the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States and the creation of the country.
00:56:28.000And recognizing the shadings of history, recognizing the truth of cultural mores being different in 1770 than they are in 2019, there is nothing more historically ignorant or frankly arrogant than suggesting that you are a better person than Thomas Jefferson was when you live in a completely different society than Thomas Jefferson did.
00:56:46.000I don't know what you would have done in 1776.
00:56:48.000You don't know what you would have done in 1776.
00:56:50.000You certainly wouldn't have the same values that you do now because you weren't brought up in the same values that you've been brought up with.
00:56:56.000So this sort of You're pandering, ridiculous.
00:57:00.000America is a deeply evil place because in the past people did bad things.
00:57:04.000In a hundred years, people are going to look back and think that you were pretty garbage, too.
00:57:55.000And he's her top foreign policy advisor.
00:57:57.000Elizabeth Warren was asked yesterday at some event about whether she would commit to ending Israel's so-called occupation.
00:58:03.000Now, for those who don't know about the quote-unquote occupation, basically, Israel, in 1967, was attacked by a variety of Arab nations, Jordan, Egypt, Syria.
00:58:17.000Right before they attacked, Israel launched a preemptive strike and blew up the Egyptian air force on the tarmac.
00:58:21.000In the Six Day War, Israel ends up winning a huge swath of land, including Judea and Samaria, which is the historic heart of biblical Israel.
00:58:30.000They include the unified Jerusalem, the Israelis, they take the Gaza Strip.
00:58:34.000Now, when you launch a war and then you lose the territory, typically you don't get to claim that it is occupied territory.
00:58:41.000But in any case, the UN creates a resolution, UN Resolution 242, which suggests that Israel has to give up occupied territories.
00:58:50.000Right, not THE occupied territories, occupied territories.
00:58:52.000Now, the reason that it leaves out the word THE is because some of those territories are given up and some of those areas are maintained.
00:58:59.000Israel no longer occupies, if that's a word you want to use, the Gaza Strip.
00:59:03.000Israel pulled out of the Gaza Strip in 2005.
00:59:05.000They, in fact, forcibly removed all Jews from Gush Katif in 2005.
00:59:09.000Since then, it has been completely run by the terrorist group Hamas.
00:59:12.000The Israelis have nothing to do with it except they prevent the importation of weaponry and they prevent terrorists from crossing the border.
00:59:18.000And in the Palestinian areas in the so-called West Bank, Judea and Samaria, the vast majority of the Palestinian population lives under direct Palestinian governance.
00:59:26.000Again, Israel polices the borders to make sure that weapons aren't being shipped in.
00:59:32.000Israeli soldiers are not wandering around in Ramallah.
00:59:35.000That is all run by the Palestinian Authority.
00:59:38.000Nonetheless, here's Elizabeth Warren suggesting that Israel is an occupying force despite all of that history and despite the truth, which is that the Palestinian Authority is a terrorist entity.
01:00:19.000- Okay, those women, by the way, work for a group called If Not Now, which is an extraordinarily radical anti-Israel group that basically considers Israel's very existence nearly illegitimate.
01:00:31.000If Not Now is a terrible, terrible group.
01:00:33.000They're constantly stumping in favor of boycott, divestment and sanctions from Israel, which is an anti-Semitic policy.
01:00:38.000They've stumped in favor of Hamas's use of civilian shields in the Gaza Strip.
01:00:50.000Shout out to one member of the Democratic Party, by the way, who actually said a true thing.
01:00:55.000Tulsi Gabbard, who is getting a little bit of attention but probably not enough based on her pretty decent debate performance, Tulsi Gabbard said something true.
01:01:13.000… levying this accusation that Joe Biden is racist, when he's clearly not, as a way to try to smear him.
01:01:22.000And as you point to the article that I linked to in my tweet, really, what she's saying is her position is the same one that she was criticizing Joe Biden for.
01:01:30.000So, this is just a political ploy, and I think a very underhanded one, just to try to get her self-attention, to move herself up in the polls.
01:01:39.000I think that we need to be above that, all of us.
01:01:46.000By the way, it is Elizabeth Warren's, it is Kamala Harris' inability to go more than five minutes without switching a position or lying or being overtly political that is leading to her not actually benefiting as much as she probably should be from her debate performance.
01:02:00.000Elizabeth Warren instead continues to run by most polls in second place.
01:02:04.000This is a four person race at best, probably a three person race, probably Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, Joe Biden.
01:02:47.000Hey everyone, it's Andrew Klavan, host of The Andrew Klavan Show.
01:02:50.000Abused children, they only become news when the left can use them for political purposes.
01:02:54.000If they can attack Trump's attempts to secure the border, or give the Catholic Church a bad name, or take out a Republican candidate who did something wrong.
01:03:02.000But when it comes to the persistent, organized sexual abuse of underage girls and boys, the story always dies.
01:03:10.000Let's keep an eye on this Epstein case and see where it goes on The Andrew Klavan Show.