Patrick Bette David is an Iranian-American serial entrepreneur and founder and CEO of Valuetainment, a financial services marketing company which has grown to more than 27,000 agents in 49 states. Patrick is the embodiment of the American dream with a first-hand understanding of what it takes to go from rags to riches. Whether it s authors, mobsters, or movie stars, Patrick s passion and unapologetic approach to controversial conversations has attracted an audience of millions across the globe. In this episode, we discuss his viral interview with Andrew Tate, the wonders of capitalism, and how to conduct a fascinating interview. His new book, Choose Your Enemy Wisely: Wisely, Business Planning for the Audacious Few, will be released in December 2019, and will be available for pre-order on Amazon Prime and Vimeo worldwide. If you haven t checked out Patrick's YouTube channel, you can do so here. His YouTube channel is both motivational and educational. It features interviews with a wide variety of guests ranging from politicians like Rod Blagojevich and Anthony Weiner, to athletes like Shaq, Kobe Bryant, and Kobe Bryant. And by the way, it s a great place to learn how to become a part owner of the New York Yankees. Patrick is in love with the team at Vaynermedia, and he s an avid YANKEES fan and supporter of the team. He s a good friend of mine, and I m so excited to have him as a guest on the PBD Podcast, I m sure you ll lllllllll lllll love him . and I ll ll lll lll in this episode of PBDBBD! PBD is a top business podcast in the U.S. - Patrick - and I hope you llll ll ll have a great time listening to this episode. -- PBD Thank you so much for tuning in! - Timestamps: 1:00:00 - What is the job of an enemy? 2:30 - Why do you think the enemy wants America to stay united or divided? 3: Why do we have 90% of values and principles that we share in common? 4:15 - Why are they all of us have a good time? 5: How do we all work together? 6:40 - What are we all a team? 7:10 - What s the worst thing we ve got a common enemy?
00:00:23.000You think the enemy wants America to stay united or divided?
00:00:26.000The enemy wants America to be the divided states of America, not the United States.
00:00:31.000Patrick Bette David is an Iranian-American serial entrepreneur and founder and CEO of Valuetainment.
00:00:37.000Patrick is of Armenian and Assyrian descent and as a child escaped Iran with his family.
00:00:41.000Patrick's family ended up living in a refugee camp and airing in Germany for about two years.
00:00:45.000Eventually, they settled in Glendale, California in 1990.
00:00:49.000After high school, Patrick joined the U.S.
00:00:50.000military and served in the 101st Airborne Division.
00:00:53.000Once out of the military, Patrick developed salesmanship skills selling health club memberships as a manager at Bally Total Fitness.
00:00:58.000He joined Morgan Stanley Dean Witter the day before 9-11 and left a year later to become a financial advisor at Transamerica.
00:01:05.000Before the age of 30, Patrick had already begun building his business empire.
00:01:08.000He founded PHP Agency in October 2009, a financial services marketing company which has grown to more than 27,000 agents in 49 states.
00:01:16.000Fat David's YouTube channel is both motivational and educational.
00:01:19.000It features interviews with a wide variety of guests ranging from politicians like Rod Blagojevich and Anthony Weiner to athletes like Shaq, Magic Johnson and Kobe Bryant.
00:01:27.000Patrick is the embodiment of the American dream with a first-hand understanding of what it takes to go from rags to riches.
00:01:33.000Whether it's authors, mobsters, or movie stars, Patrick's passion and unapologetic approach to controversial conversations has attracted an audience of millions across the globe.
00:01:41.000His weekly PBD podcast is a top business podcast in the country.
00:01:44.000His new book, Choose Your Enemies Wisely, Business Planning for the Audacious Few, will be coming out this December.
00:01:49.000In this episode, we discuss his viral interview with Andrew Tate, the wonders of capitalism,
00:01:54.000how to conduct a fascinating interview, and what it takes to become a part owner of the
00:03:36.000And then the second one that we did during Romania, when he got out, his lawyer and I accidentally, we found out we went to high school together, four years apart, okay?
00:03:46.000And I had her on, and then his PR people and I were in communication while they were in, and then they said, Andrew, we'd like to talk to you first when he gets out.
00:04:27.000And he knows how to troll them, how to get under their skin.
00:04:30.000And any time you get a guy like that, he's going to get a lot of eyeballs.
00:04:33.000So when you interview somebody like Andrew Tritt, what kind of prep goes into that?
00:04:36.000Because obviously we've had people at Daily Wire who've interviewed him as well.
00:04:39.000And the big controversies that surround him, there's sort of two sets.
00:04:42.000There's one that's about his views, which are interesting and certainly heterodox.
00:04:46.000What I've said about his views from his public expression of them is that I agree with many of his diagnoses and very few of his prescriptions.
00:04:51.000So many of his diagnoses of secular feminism and third wave feminism and the destruction of society, I think a lot of those are true.
00:04:57.000And then I think sort of the way that he treats the questions, the answers are very often wrong.
00:05:03.000Meaning that my answer to that would be get married, have kids, build a family unit.
00:05:08.000It's not through sort of You know, how many women can I attract, or how much money can I make, and that shouldn't be your gauge of success, in other words.
00:05:14.000So there's the controversy about his views, which people can argue over, and then there's obviously the bigger controversy over his actual activities.
00:05:23.000What do you make of some of the compilation videos that have come out of him talking about, for example, his loverboy method, or some of the things that he was using to get girls involved?
00:05:43.000If that's the lover boy method, 90% of men who are 18 years old, 20 years old, who have no clue how to get a girl, would love to learn that language.
00:06:02.000Ben Shapiro destroys, just add whatever the word is next, 10 million views, 15, that's all you gotta put and just let it rip and you'll go, right?
00:06:14.000Because they wish they can kind of be like a Ben.
00:06:16.000They wish they can kind of talk like a Ben.
00:06:18.000They wish they can kind of, you know, the guy putting his hand on your shoulder, you put him in his place and, you know, you would pierce, you know, years ago, I don't know what that was, 10, 11 years ago, boom, you put, you know, hit him in his place.
00:06:28.000They, you know, you went with so many different examples.
00:06:31.000So, take a Ben, I know this is a different example, weird example to give you.
00:06:34.000You and Andrew Tate are actually very similar, okay?
00:06:38.000You know, your wordsmith is with values and principles, conservative belief, and you were raised in an environment where a mom and a dad, you know, where I think your dad was a composer, your mom, you know, these are people that executive, you know, in Hollywood or production company she's working at, you had a little bit more stability.
00:07:11.000Both of you are somewhat anti-establishment.
00:07:14.000So I don't think there's a difference between the two of you.
00:07:16.000The only difference is your upbringing, mom and dad, environment.
00:07:22.000As a man, when you're younger, You know, and you have a woman that publicly humiliates you or breaks your heart or leaves you for another man or, you know, does something to you that's embarrassing.
00:08:24.000Lifestyle-wise, the way he makes money, I think there's a lot of different ways to make money.
00:08:28.000You know, some you agree with, some you don't agree with.
00:08:30.000In his environment, where he is, Uh, that is a normal, that is not an abnormal way of making money.
00:08:37.000It's not the traditional way of making money, but there's many camera, you know, girls that you do that with and you make, there's a lot of guys that do that in that country.
00:08:58.000I went back to the hotel and I said, I think, and I think I even asked him on the first question, I said, I think, I think someone in the Muslim faith is influencing you.
00:09:09.000Because the language he's talking about, he's talking about the language that I remember living in Iran, where that was the language, where it's men here, women here, you better or else, and it's not maybe you better or else, it's my job is to protect you, your job is to have kids, and that's it, that's the relationship we have.
00:09:29.000And that's where I felt the influence was taking place, where he went from being the guy that was the fighter, then a lot of women, Then he's trying to see what he's going to be doing.
00:09:39.000Then he found a way to make his money.
00:09:40.000Then he's getting all this fame with the camera because he's got a way of speaking.
00:09:44.000And then he's like, OK, there's a lot of chaos going on in my life.
00:09:53.000And he kind of tried to figure out a way to settle down by converting to Islam and Muslim.
00:09:58.000But I felt like someone was in his ear from that faith.
00:10:01.000So I don't want to make this interview about Andrew Tate because obviously I can ask Andrew Tate those questions, but the real question is how do you prep for the kinds of interviews that you do?
00:11:15.000I'm going to go here first, then I'm going to go here, then here, then here, then I'm going to go here, and then eventually I'm going to go here, because this was a question I always wanted to ask.
00:11:22.000But you're not going to ask this question first.
00:11:24.000You ask that question like question number seven.
00:11:25.000Like when I had Anthony Wiener on, the question I wanted to ask him was maybe question number 11.
00:11:50.000But it's different if I'm doing topic versus personality.
00:11:54.000So, you know, obviously everybody comes to this particular job that we do with a set of values.
00:12:00.000What are your core values that you're bringing into the interviews that I think are the prism through which you view the person who you're interviewing?
00:12:38.000A lot of these guys were people that maybe escaped Russia and they came down, you know, to whether they escaped Russia or Leningrad or Baku or any of that.
00:12:45.000they came down to Tehran, Iran or Bandar Pahlavi back in the days, Rasht, was a city that's
00:12:50.000North Iran, that's close to Caspian Sea, the best caviar in the world.
00:13:57.000Six weeks after Khomeini dies in 89, I think it's like July 15, we go to Germany, 89.
00:14:00.000And I live at a refugee camp in Germany in Erlangen for a year and a half, and we come to the States here.
00:14:06.000And when I come to the States here, I'm like, hey, I cannot believe this is how this life is, how great America is.
00:14:12.000And then I go to high school, then I joined the army, and I grew up watching Mob, and I wanted to be a bodybuilder, and we always watched, you know, Godfather, or Carlito's Way, or, you know, Scarface, and sports, and we're talking about sports earlier, with your interest in wanting to be a sports owner in the future.
00:14:28.000I'm looking forward to celebrating that with you, which was an interesting conversation to have.
00:14:32.000But so anyways, the people around me were always weird and different.
00:14:36.000So I was able to befriend the 4.5 GPA kid and the captain of the football team and the teacher who gave me an F and a teacher who was a math teacher.
00:14:48.000We would have conversations and the head coach and the counselor and the army recruiter and the cops.
00:15:25.000This is the greatest country in the world.
00:15:27.000I'm a military guy, so you know where I stand with guns.
00:15:30.000You know, when it comes down to taxes, I have very strong opinion on taxes, very strong opinions on family values, principles, you know, our incentive program right now on how it's, you know, encouraging people to have kids, single mother, all this stuff.
00:15:45.000But in regards to the media, how we're building the media, the main basis is capitalism.
00:15:50.000And anything can be built on the main core values and principles that we have is capitalism.
00:15:57.000We believe you can go out there and build as big of a business or small of a business And make as much or as little money as you want to make, or you can be a supporter in the role of building daily wire.
00:16:06.000You can be a consultant, you can be an outsider, you can be an independent contractor, you can be an employee, you can be an executive, you can get a piece of the company eventually when it goes public or it sells, you get a check.
00:16:16.000There's so many ways within a capitalistic society to win.
00:16:19.000That's our core foundation and obviously a bunch of different things comes with it.
00:16:22.000So one of the big issues you've been talking about, because you talk so much about capitalism and business, is the infiltration of ESG into business.
00:16:29.000And this is something that I think took a lot of conservatives by surprise over the course of the last 10 years.
00:16:32.000There's this belief system, at least when I was growing up, that there are certain institutions in the society that lean left.
00:16:37.000The universities lean left, the media lean left, Hollywood lean left, obviously.
00:16:41.000When it came to corporate America, the idea was you were going to go into business, and then you were going to deal with the real world, where you had to pay taxes and you had to make payroll, and this was going to make you conservative.
00:16:48.000And now, for a lot of conservatives, it feels like that's not what corporate America is.
00:16:52.000Corporate America has basically engaged in corporatism, where they're working hand-in-glove with members of the government in order to get special advantages, and then the other half of that deal is they have to promote left-wing viewpoints on everything from environmental to social.
00:17:06.000So how deep do you think the infiltration of ESG has been, and how dangerous is it?
00:17:10.000Oh, it's extremely deep, but the answer is they're not going to win.
00:17:14.000They're not going to win long term, because people are starting to get exposed to it, and they're learning more about it, and even they're saying, hey, let me back off a little bit.
00:17:21.000You know, Larry thinks that ESG is being, you know, it's being bullied a little bit, and people are not liking it.
00:17:26.000getting a black guy and Elon Musk on the other end said the S stands for satanic or even
00:17:31.000you know Charlie Munger says look I love Larry Fink I think he's a great guy but I don't
00:17:36.000want Larry Fink as an emperor I want him as a friend I don't want him as an emperor and
00:17:38.000Larry Fink kind of you know black rock what they're trying to build.
00:17:41.000So here's the part where I have a problem with it is this guy Larry goes and majors
00:18:27.000$1 million from here, $18 million from here, $48 million from here, $32 million from here.
00:18:32.000It's institutional, but they make the decision on what they do with your money.
00:18:34.000So then they choose, and you look across the board, the amount of reach that they have,
00:18:39.000whether it goes to, you know, military.
00:18:41.000So you're talking about Raytheon, Boeing, General Dynamics, you know, all these guys where they are the top three to four shareholders in those companies through their ETFs or through their institutional money.
00:18:52.000And in Hollywood, you go into so many different businesses, you look at 88 percent, I think it's 88 percent S&P 500 companies, they're the top three shareholders in
00:19:01.000those companies imagine that kind of influence and control So now if you're doing that what influence do you have?
00:19:07.000Hey, we better not put that guy there because we're not gonna get more money from them
00:19:11.000We better not do this and then you add George Soros Who Open Society Foundation he starts and he's worth seven
00:19:18.000billion dollars, which I think he's given us seven billion to his son
00:19:21.00038 39 year old son and George Soros over the years last 30 years
00:19:26.000He's given Open Society Foundation 32 billion dollars is what he's given to them
00:19:31.000Then they came up with a way to do this DEI score, you know diversity equity
00:19:35.000Inclusive which by the way when we were selling our insurance company, we build an insurance company with 45,000
00:19:41.000agents We sold it a year ago to Silverlake and integrated
00:19:43.000marketing very happy with the partnership that we have with them
00:19:46.000but couple the meetings that we had been was interesting because
00:19:50.000Our insurance company, when we started it, at the time, the average insurance agent was a 56-year-old white male.
00:20:29.000And if we get a company like yours in a marketplace, look at the way they're making the decision.
00:20:34.000Not the decision of, this is a good EBITDA, we can grow this, we can buy it for 13 times EBITDA, but we can sell it for 20 times EBITDA if we put it in the portfolio.
00:20:43.000So, this is the part where DEI score, CEI score, corporate equity index, where a Philip Morris gets a higher rating on their ESG score than a Tesla with what Elon is doing.
00:20:53.000Now, people are waking up and saying, this doesn't make sense.
00:20:54.000And in Hollywood now, where they're forgetting the fact that originally, the reason why people went to Hollywood is because Hollywood was originally New Jersey.
00:21:06.000Most movies in America were being produced in Jersey, through Thomas Edison, but Thomas Edison regulated the industry of motion pictures so much that the guy said, we're leaving Jersey.
00:21:22.000You got away from the mess, you went over there.
00:21:24.000Now, the same thing is repeating itself where in Hollywood If you want to be nominated for an Oscar, I'm sure you saw this, a third of your actors have to be part of the underrepresented community, whether it's black, whether it's Hispanic, whether it's disability, whether it's LGBTQ, whether it's American Indian with Native American, all this stuff.
00:21:41.000And even the editors, the cutters, all this stuff.
00:21:44.000So that means the last however many Oscar winning movies, none of them would win today.
00:21:49.000This just doesn't make any sense today what they're doing.
00:21:51.000So the more this hypocrisy keeps becoming public, The average person sits there and says, yeah, I don't buy this.
00:22:36.000Sure, Maybe they'll release a feature now and then that does some good, but collecting and selling off your data, well, that's what Big Tech does.
00:22:41.000It's literally what they do to make their money.
00:22:44.000To protect myself against Big Tech's prying eyes, I use ExpressVPN.
00:22:47.000When you use the ExpressVPN app on your computer or phone, you're hiding your unique IP address.
00:22:51.000Websites can't use that address to find out your real location or track what you do online.
00:22:55.000On top of that, ExpressVPN encrypts and reroutes 100% of your online activity, so your internet provider, Wi-Fi admin, and hackers can't see it.
00:23:38.000I mean, up until the last year, you were able to basically just take money for free.
00:23:42.000And so that allows you to play all these sorts of stupid games.
00:23:44.000In a time when interest rates have tightened a fair bit, people are going to be a lot more careful with their money.
00:23:48.000Instead of looking just at ESG or DEI scores, they're actually going to be looking at things like EBITDA, and you would hope that that'll have some impact.
00:23:57.000I'm on the board of a NASDAQ-traded company, and one of the things that we have to certify
00:24:00.000is that a certain number of our board members are females or minorities or gay or whatever
00:25:28.000If you think about it, COVID showed us what policies don't work.
00:25:32.000COVID showed us right now, Florida, they're targeting Governor DeSantis and they're saying all these teachers don't feel safe teaching in the state of Florida.
00:25:41.000These anti-woke policies make me very uncomfortable.
00:28:02.000You know the scene where he's having breakfast with his brothers and his cousins, and he noticed a guy that hasn't paid him the 10 points, and he goes out, say, hey, where's my money?
00:28:09.000He hasn't, he says, I'm not gonna give you the 10%, and takes a gun, shoots him, comes back down, takes a, wipes his hands, puts a dollar on the ground, opens the door, sits down, starts having breakfast with his cousins, and as if nothing happened, It's as if they're doing that, and they're saying, what are you going to do about it?
00:29:55.000More people are looking at this message and saying, this is what I need more of right now because they're controlling me in XYZ or such and such place.
00:30:05.000And you wake up those types of people and they find each other.
00:30:08.000We the people have a great track record.
00:30:11.000But unfortunately, before they win, a lot of people get destroyed before they end up rising up and winning.
00:30:16.000So you seem a lot more optimistic than a lot of the people that I talk to.
00:30:20.000Obviously, we look at our politics and it seems like things are pretty broken.
00:30:24.000I mean, the next election cycle, it looks like right now, if you had to put money on it, it looks like Trump versus Biden, which means a recast of 2020.
00:30:30.000You have a president who does not appear to be mentally there and who is You know, pretty clearly in bed with his son and their corruption problems.
00:30:38.000And then then you have another presidential candidate who is deeply unpopular by every polling statistic with the American people and who has a bunch of legal issues hanging over his head going into the election.
00:30:49.000And it seems like a lot of Americans are both simultaneously enervated by this.
00:30:54.000They're just not that interested, but also really upset about it because they're both discouraged.
00:30:58.000Because is this a thing I really want to go through again?
00:31:01.000But at the same time, they're really ticked.
00:32:20.000And Shamat shared that video yesterday for the audience to kind of think, hey, if he can give this kind of answer and he can win people over at this point, maybe he has a shot.
00:32:29.000Then he got Nikki Haley that connected emotionally with women.
00:32:32.000At the debate, I thought it was a very good move what she did, and the way she did it, she got the support of the people that are pro-abortion, that are pro-choice, that are pro-life, that are younger, older.
00:32:43.000I thought her messaging of connecting with that audience was exceptional on what she did.
00:32:56.000Uh, DeSantis needs to sell America better.
00:32:58.000He needs to be better at persuading and getting people to win them over.
00:33:02.000I feel like DeSantis, sometimes when you watch him talk, I get a feeling he's walking on eggshells and no one knows why he's walking on eggshells.
00:33:19.000And if he does, it's going to come back and they're going to share it with other people and all this other, he's afraid of it, right?
00:33:25.000And then you have, Trump, who is the complete opposite of DeSantis, he could care less.
00:33:30.000Matter of fact, he's disappointed if you don't bring up that one girl he was with 40 years ago.
00:33:34.000How dare you forget about that one or this one?
00:33:36.000You should bring the other one up and, you know, the stories about him potentially leaking the pictures of his wife, how a very different kind of a guy, like imagine you doing that and say, look at my picture, my wife and I, how beautiful.
00:33:47.000It's so unorthodox, but unfortunately, you're living in a time where The challenge that we have, Ben, is you and I don't get to pick and choose.
00:34:48.000Ben, you're going to hell for all the sins you've committed, and if you don't, blah, blah, blah.
00:34:53.000I remember one time I sat down with a guy, and I'm 22 years old.
00:34:57.000I'm dating a girl from Hollywood, and she's beautiful, and he's part of this church called the Los Angeles Church of Christ, that eventually the guy came out and says we're a cult, because they said the only way you can go to heaven is through our church.
00:36:01.000And my entire dream since I was six years old was to be a father.
00:36:04.000I had a family that was messy, so we never had stability in the family.
00:36:09.000So at 24 years old, that same girl that he asked us the question, I go up to her one night and I said, hey, I want us to go a month without having sex.
00:36:39.000Then, through a certain set of events in my life, I chose to give my life to Christ, then I became a Christian, then I chose to change my life with alcohol, the stuff, the lifestyle, the clubbing, the Hollywood, all that stuff, and then boom!
00:37:00.000I'm not the one that's going to go out there, you know, saying everything that's the right time all the time.
00:37:04.000I watch Ron and I say this guy would make one hell of a president, but he gets in his own way.
00:37:09.000So when you look at the candidates and the people that we have.
00:37:13.000Unfortunately, there isn't anybody right now that's getting the kind of stuff where people want them to run instead of Trump.
00:37:19.000As much as you say anything you want to say about Trump, or a lot of people do, they were at, what, 48-44, whatever the number was, 48-42, and now it's, what, 64-18, you know, him and DeSantis, where the separation is getting wider and wider and wider, so you know it's going to end up being Trump.
00:37:33.000I think what America is saying to us right now, whether you agree with them or not, not you, the people that are watching, whether you agree with them or not, The ones that voted for Trump, or the ones that didn't, but they can't stand what Biden is doing, they're like, look man, how many times you gotta get after this guy?
00:37:54.000Let's just say a person says, I voted for Hillary, right?
00:37:57.000But I know Hillary's got a lot of stuff up.
00:37:59.000You know, I mean, we know the documentary they made about Hillary and Bill Clinton called House of Cards.
00:38:03.000I don't know if you ever watch a documentary on Netflix.
00:38:12.000But in other words, it's a documentary, right?
00:38:16.000And you watch it and you say, where did they get these stories from?
00:38:19.000Is there an example of somebody that did this?
00:38:22.000You know, did somebody live a life like this for you to want to write this?
00:38:25.000And then Kevin Spacey plays the part, and then Kevin Spacey is playing the guy that's the closest guy to Bill Clinton, who's a charmer, and his wife later on.
00:38:35.000Kind of interesting when you watch that stuff, right?
00:38:37.000So some people are saying, look, that guy's not perfect.
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00:40:13.000Obviously not going to hold you to it because nobody can make a prediction this far out, or as it turns out at all.
00:40:18.000But if you were a betting man, where would you put your money, Trump or Biden, at this point?
00:40:22.000I'm going to put it on the establishment using every single play out of their playbook possible to prevent him from running.
00:41:09.000He's actually got pretty good kids, even Hillary Clinton said he's got.
00:41:11.000We're going to go after the fact that, you know, this guy had a book that was written by someone else that's been on the bestseller list for a couple of days.
00:41:19.000We're going to go after the fact that on TV his show flopped.
00:41:21.000No, no, that was Arnold who flopped after he tried to do The Apprentice and nobody was interested in Arnold saying you're fired.
00:41:50.000Now, sometimes what I think happens, which is an interesting thing when it comes down to war or choosing your enemies wisely, it's a book that's coming out December 5th, is sometimes You know, everybody has an enemy.
00:43:34.000These are guys that made their money, that are living in Palm Beach, and they're afraid to get criticized.
00:43:40.000Let me just join the country club and be invited to all my liberal parties and kind of act like I'm also as well, you know, such and such was Obama was a good president, generally a good person.
00:43:49.000We're being invited to the party, babe.
00:45:06.000So going back to the enemy, Sometimes you think you have a strategy that's going to destroy your enemy, but it's going to strengthen your enemy.
00:45:14.000And that's what they're doing to Trump.
00:45:16.000They're thinking what they're doing is hurting him, but it's getting more people to say, you know what?
00:45:22.000I don't like what you're doing to her.
00:46:44.000Hate to say, I've never in a million years that I think I'm going to support a guy like that, but now I am because I don't like the way you're treating him.
00:47:35.000So I can't give you the exact answer on who I think it's going to be.
00:47:39.000I think the level of deceptiveness and dirt is going to go to levels we've never seen before.
00:47:44.000So the market favors deception, but history favors we the people.
00:47:51.000So as you were kind of talking about that and talking about the fact that the market does favor deception, one of the big problems obviously is that post-election, at least as I mentioned, half the country is not just going to be angry.
00:48:03.000They're going to believe that the election was rigged.
00:48:05.000If Trump loses, the entire right is going to believe that the election was rigged, largely because the media are the way that they are, because of the legal cases against Trump.
00:48:13.000And also because Trump has been saying for several years that the last election was rigged.
00:48:16.000So everything is primed on the right for that possibility, that if Trump loses, the right is going to explode because they're going to believe that it was stolen.
00:48:22.000On the other side, the left is actually, well, they're lying about this.
00:48:26.000Very often the left will say, no, no, we believe in elections, but they only believe in elections when it's convenient for them to believe in elections.
00:48:30.000When Stacey Abrams gets defeated in Georgia, she's still the legit governor of Georgia until she actually gets destroyed by Brian Kemp in the latest gubernatorial election.
00:48:38.000Hillary, of course, Never really lost.
00:48:44.000And so if Biden were to lose, then the idea would be that somehow something deeply unjust
00:48:48.000has happened and you'd have explosion on the other side, which raises the question as to
00:48:52.000whether the country can actually survive under these conditions.
00:48:55.000I don't mean that there's going to be full-scale civil war with people going up against each
00:48:59.000But it does mean that the sort of roiling turmoil where people don't want to live anywhere near each other, don't want to be with each other, don't want to be sharing a common standard of American-ness, that feels like that's falling away and that's being, that feels like an exponential increase.
00:49:13.000I think that's largely happening at the elite level, and I think it's bleeding down to the population level.
00:49:17.000But, you know, where do you see that going?
00:49:20.000Is there any way for people to come back together?
00:49:21.000You ever read the book Barbarians to Bureaucrats written by Lawrence Miller?
00:50:53.000Let's start making some rules and guidelines, and let's have certain protocols that you can't do this, and before you do this, you have to do this, and you have to get that approved, and you've got to get this, and you've got to get that.
00:55:10.000From a Christian man who lived in a country, Iran, that's a Muslim country for 10 years, who a lot of my friends were Muslim, Islam, I'm totally fine.
00:57:34.000And then I'm, you know, talking about how spiritual baseball is.
00:57:37.000In 1961, they break the record with 61 home runs, and the next time the 61 record is broken is exactly 61 years later, in 2022, by, you know, a judge hits 62.
00:58:42.000If we identify The enemy the right way, and we realize it's the establishment, the people of power who want to control us and tell us what to do.
00:58:52.000And we realize that's the enemy, not left or right.
00:58:57.000But if we continue going the way we're going right now, controlled by the top to keep pinning us against each other, we're going to be shit for a long time to come.
00:59:05.000So, you know, when you talk about enemies, not just domestically, but internationally, obviously a lot of controversy over Russia, China, Ukraine, all the rest of it.
00:59:13.000Look at the international sphere for a second and tell me, who do you think is the, should America be choosing as sort of its enemy?
00:59:20.000Or America doesn't choose its own enemy sometimes.
00:59:22.000Who is the enemy that's targeting the United States on a foreign level?
00:59:26.000Well, the way I would look at it is, first, what values and principles do we value the
00:59:56.000Kind of like a guy named Ronald did it with another guy named Gorbachev.
00:59:59.000And eventually they went from a communistic USSR to 1994, you know, wall comes down, open, you know, a little bit more of competition, capitalism.
01:00:29.000If you were to put a leader's bulletin on top five countries that hate America the most at our powerhouse, OK, you would put China on that list.
01:00:37.000You'd probably put Iran on that list and you would probably put Russia on that list.
01:00:41.000OK, who else would you add on that list?
01:00:49.000It depends on the iteration, but some of the, because Latin America changes its leadership so often, it's hard to actually include them in a permanent list there, but you know, Venezuela.
01:02:45.000We don't mind if China hates us, if they individually hate us.
01:02:51.000We don't mind if Russia hates us, if they individually hate us.
01:02:54.000We don't mind if Iran hates us, if they individually hate us.
01:02:58.000But if you put Iran, China, Russia, and North Korea collectively to hate us, for them to unite against us, NATO, everybody else, yeah, that's problematic.
01:03:21.000Well, we got to accelerate the membership process for Ukraine to get him into, I think it was like June 23rd or something like that.
01:03:25.000We got to accelerate the process of getting Ukraine to be part of NATO, because if we can do that, then we can impose Article 5 and NATO has to, blah, blah, blah, against Russia.
01:03:33.000So what's the translation to that is what?
01:04:02.000And you started off all on this side and now you're gradually getting NATO members from whatever 12, 13, 14 it was to getting closer and closer and closer and closer and closer to me, around me?
01:04:26.000I think there's allies that we share common values.
01:04:28.000I think enemies that we don't have the necessarily similar values, but we have to figure out a way to stay in relationship mode with them.
01:04:36.000And if somebody loses their minds and we have a modern day Hitler that's going to go do it, of course, it's us against you if you want to do something like that.
01:04:43.000If you're trying to do something like that, it's the world against that one individual.
01:04:48.000So we have to be always aware and paranoid of that.
01:04:50.000But right now we're unifying our enemies.