The Ben Shapiro Show - September 21, 2020


Supreme Court Apocalypse | Ep. 1099


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1 hour

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213.97035

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12,988

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883

Misogynist Sentences

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Summary

Ruth Bader Ginsburg dies, Democrats panic and threaten institutional Armageddon, and Trump vows to move ahead. Ben Shapiro's take on the death of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and the implications for the future of the Supreme Court, and why she should have been appointed by President Obama when she was elected in 2008, not by Hillary Clinton in 2016, and the real reason why she didn t want to step down earlier than she did, is because she didn't want Donald Trump to fill her seat, because she did not want to be replaced by another liberal justice. The death of Justice Ginsburg raises the possibility of the greatest constitutional crisis in modern American history, not because of what the Republicans are going to do to fill the seat, but because Democrats are threatening to do what they threaten to do, and hand over the seat to whoever they want to fill it with. Ben Shapiro explains why this is not a good idea, and what will happen when the next Supreme Court justice is chosen by the next president, and how that will change the process of choosing a replacement. The Ben Shapiro Show is sponsored by ExpressVPN. Get a FREE information kit on protecting your savings with gold and precious metals! Talk to them over at Birchgold.co/theBenShapiroShow and get 20% off your first month with discount code: BONUS! at checkout! and save $200 when you sign up to receive 20% OFF your first year of your first-year mail-in-in rate! You have a right to privacy protection and access all of the best practices, unlimited access to all of all the best privacy tools, including the latest privacy tools and features, and more! The world s best privacy protections, privacy protection, and access to the world s most powerful privacy tools. You get 10% off the world's best privacy and data, and you get access to everything you could ever dream about, anywhere in the world, anywhere you go, anywhere, anywhere and anywhere you get a freebie gets a $100, free, the world gets a discount, the whole world gets access to it, and they get it too, the best of it gets it, you get it. the whole thing, you can do it, the most of it, no matter where she s gonna get it, she s going to be the best, and she s getting it, they say it, it s not gonna be more than that, right?


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00:00:00.000 RBG dies.
00:00:01.000 Democrats panic and threaten institutional Armageddon.
00:00:04.000 And Trump vows to move ahead.
00:00:05.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
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00:01:35.000 Okay, so, right before Rosh Hashanah begins, I get the information that Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the longtime Supreme Court Justice, first appointed in 1993, a famous feminist voice, has passed away.
00:01:51.000 And in Judaism, the first thing you always say is Baruch Dayan Emet, blessed is the true judge.
00:01:55.000 So we say that, obviously, because death comes to us all, whether we are, you know, on the side of the righteous or whether we are not on the side of the righteous.
00:02:03.000 Ruth Bader Ginsburg, For all of our disagreements, and we had many of them obviously, I disagreed with her politics thoroughly and profoundly.
00:02:10.000 She devoted decades of her life to public service.
00:02:13.000 She was responsible for some things that I think everyone can agree with, including the forwarding of women's rights in the workplace.
00:02:18.000 A lot of those things are very good.
00:02:20.000 And her passage should be met with national mourning, of course.
00:02:24.000 This, of course, however, raises the greatest I think constitutional crisis that I've seen in modern American history, not because of what the Republicans are going to do, fill the seat, but because of what Democrats are threatening to do.
00:02:38.000 Now, let's be real about this.
00:02:40.000 From the very beginning, Ruth Bader Ginsburg should have stepped down when Barack Obama was president.
00:02:44.000 Now, apparently her dying wish was that her seat not be filled.
00:02:48.000 And Democrats are making a big deal out of this.
00:02:50.000 There is no constitutional provision that allows a justice as their dying wish to pick their successor.
00:02:55.000 In communist countries, judges pick their successors.
00:02:57.000 That is not what happens in a free republic.
00:02:59.000 In a free republic, However the process works is how the process works.
00:03:02.000 Imagine if Justice Antonin Scalia had left a note by his bedside table before he had a heart attack and died, saying, Do you think there would have been five seconds of consideration over his dying wish?
00:03:14.000 That is not how this works.
00:03:15.000 You do not get to will your Supreme Court seat to somebody else because it is not, in fact, your Supreme Court seat.
00:03:20.000 It is a seat that pre-exists you and will exist long after you.
00:03:23.000 Just as Donald Trump doesn't get to will the presidency of the United States to whoever he wants to be his successor, RBG does not get to will her seat to anybody else.
00:03:31.000 So her dying wishes have absolutely no constitutional value.
00:03:33.000 We all know this, by the way.
00:03:34.000 I mean, she was holding on tenaciously to that Supreme Court seat.
00:03:38.000 She didn't want to step down because she didn't want Trump to fill the seat.
00:03:42.000 And it's patently obvious that the reason that she didn't step down earlier is because she thought Hillary Clinton was going to win.
00:03:48.000 She should have stepped down in 2010.
00:03:50.000 Remember, she was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer back in 2009.
00:03:53.000 She was 87 years old when she died.
00:03:54.000 So that means she was 76 years old when she was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer.
00:03:58.000 Now typically, pancreatic cancer, unfortunately, has a very high kill rate and She stayed on the court for another 11 years after her original diagnosis with pancreatic cancer, again, when Barack Obama was president.
00:04:09.000 She could have stepped down any time in there.
00:04:12.000 And she didn't step down in 2016 because she figured that she was going to be on the court while Hillary Clinton was president.
00:04:19.000 Bill Clinton has said as much, right?
00:04:21.000 Bill Clinton was asked by Margaret Brennan about this.
00:04:24.000 Margaret Brennan said Ginsburg reportedly told her friends she had intended to retire under what she expected to be a Hillary Clinton presidency.
00:04:29.000 Did you ever talk to her about that?
00:04:31.000 Do you know who she envisioned taking her place?
00:04:32.000 And Clinton said, no, I mean, I knew, I hoped Hillary would be elected in 2016.
00:04:37.000 I thought she would and hoped she'd have some time because she wanted to leave the court while she was still at full steam.
00:04:41.000 She wanted to leave the court with someone who she thought was not an ideologue.
00:04:44.000 Someone who was too far to the right, but I don't think she necessarily had a preferred candidate.
00:04:47.000 I think she trusted Hillary to make a good decision.
00:04:49.000 It was perfectly obvious that she was sticking around because she thought Hillary was going to win, then Trump won, and then it became basically a race against the clock for Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
00:04:57.000 And you could see this in the way that the Democratic Party infrastructure mobilized around her.
00:05:01.000 She became the notorious RBG.
00:05:03.000 She moved from being just like a normal left-wing Supreme Court justice to being this iconic figure because the idea was that she stood between the Democrats and doom.
00:05:10.000 She stood between the Democrats and Armageddon.
00:05:13.000 And here's the thing.
00:05:14.000 This demonstrates full scale how the Democrats think of the Supreme Court, which is why, honestly, they should never be picking Supreme Court justices.
00:05:21.000 So as we will see, we're going to discuss a little bit later on the so-called McConnell Doctrine from back in 2016, what he actually said.
00:05:26.000 Was he saying that in the final year of a presidency that the president should not select or that his selection should not be confirmed?
00:05:32.000 He never said that.
00:05:32.000 No, he didn't say that.
00:05:33.000 What he said instead was that if the Senate was controlled by a different party than the president, the Senate had no obligation to move forward with a nomination if they were of a different party than the president until The American public had sounded off on what they wanted to be, the final combination of factors leading to the selection of the Supreme Court justice.
00:05:50.000 But in the final year of a presidency, we've had some 29 selections by presidents, and it's perfectly normal for a president to select the person to fill a Supreme Court seat.
00:05:59.000 In 17 of those cases, the president, or in 17, yeah, 17 of those cases, the president and Senate have been controlled by the same party.
00:06:07.000 And in 15 of those 17 cases, That person has been confirmed.
00:06:10.000 This is something Senator Ted Cruz pointed out over the weekend.
00:06:12.000 This is, of course, exactly historically correct.
00:06:17.000 29 times there has been a vacancy in a presidential election year.
00:06:21.000 Now, presidents have made nominations all 29 times.
00:06:24.000 When the Senate has been of the same party of the president, a vacancy occurs in an election year, of the 29 times, those are 19 of them.
00:06:32.000 Of those 19, the Senate has confirmed those nominees 17 times.
00:06:36.000 So if the parties are the same, the Senate confirms the nominee.
00:06:40.000 When the parties are different, that's happened 10 times.
00:06:43.000 Merrick Garland was one of them.
00:06:44.000 Of those 10, the Senate has confirmed the nominees only twice.
00:06:49.000 Okay, it is very uncontroversial constitutionally speaking.
00:06:53.000 The president gets to fill the seat and then the Senate gets to decide whether they decide to go up or down on it.
00:06:57.000 I thought that McConnell, you can go back and listen to my show at the time, I thought McConnell in 2016 was being too cute by half on the Merrick Garland thing by saying, well, you know, it's the last year of the presidency.
00:07:06.000 We'll wait until the election is decided.
00:07:07.000 To me, this is a very simple thing.
00:07:09.000 You should not vote for any nominee who you feel is not going to interpret the constitution properly.
00:07:14.000 I don't care whether it is the first year of Barack Obama's term and he is selecting Sonia Sotomayor or Elena Kagan, or whether it is the last year of Barack Obama's term and he is selecting Merrick Garland.
00:07:23.000 It makes no difference to me whatsoever in any way.
00:07:26.000 The bottom line is this.
00:07:27.000 The constitutional rule of the Supreme Court is to interpret the Constitution properly.
00:07:31.000 The Democrats have used the Supreme Court to enact policy.
00:07:35.000 From the bench for decades.
00:07:36.000 Republicans have gone along with this out of some sense of nostalgia for a time when the Supreme Court was far less political.
00:07:42.000 But the Democrats made this whole thing political way back in the 80s.
00:07:44.000 This all started with Bork and we've seen its culmination in the attempt to go after Justice Kavanaugh with false charges of gang rape and such.
00:07:52.000 With ridiculous charges that he was involved in a boofing when he was 17 years old.
00:07:57.000 The Democrats made this political.
00:07:58.000 They've decided that the Supreme Court is merely another political tool in their arsenal.
00:08:02.000 They have no institutional respect for the Supreme Court.
00:08:04.000 The Supreme Court is not something they care about.
00:08:06.000 And this is something I talk about in my book, How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps.
00:08:10.000 For Democrats, unfortunately, it has become the case that the institutions of the United States government are an obstacle to them.
00:08:15.000 And when they are an obstacle, they seek to destroy the obstacle.
00:08:18.000 This is why over the past several years since Trump was elected, they've talked about abolishing the Electoral College.
00:08:22.000 They've talked about completely redoing the Senate or abolishing the Senate altogether.
00:08:26.000 They are now talking about packing the Supreme Court.
00:08:28.000 They were talking about that a year ago.
00:08:30.000 Pete Buttigieg said openly in the middle of this race that he was willing to pack the Supreme Court.
00:08:35.000 And this became a question on the debate stage as to whether people were going to pack the Supreme Court.
00:08:40.000 Democrats have nothing but scorn for the institutional checks and balances of the government of the United States because they believe that those institutional checks and balances are an obstacle to complete rule from above.
00:08:50.000 It has been true for a very long time.
00:08:52.000 Now, even Ruth Bader Ginsburg was not opportunist enough to believe that packing the court was a good idea.
00:08:58.000 Ruth Bader Ginsburg, all the way back in 2016, I believe, was specifically asked about packing the court.
00:09:04.000 And here is what she said at the time.
00:09:08.000 I have heard that there are some people on the Democratic side who would like to Increase the number of judges.
00:09:18.000 I think that was a bad idea when President Franklin Delano Roosevelt tried to pack the court.
00:09:24.000 If anything would make the court appear partisan, it would be that one side saying, when we're in power, we're going to enlarge the number of judges so we will have more people who will vote the way we want them to.
00:09:41.000 OK, so even Ruth Bader Ginsburg recognized the threat to the institutions.
00:09:44.000 The old school liberals, however, are no longer in control of the Democratic Party.
00:09:47.000 They don't believe in the institutions of the Constitution.
00:09:49.000 They believe in overthrowing them.
00:09:51.000 And honestly, this has a long legacy inside of the Democratic Party.
00:09:53.000 Woodrow Wilson sought to overthrow the checks and balances of the Constitution by radically expanding the executive branch and overthrowing all checks and balances.
00:10:02.000 Taking all the powers of the legislature and placing them inside the executive.
00:10:05.000 You saw FDR attempt to pack the court back in the 1930s.
00:10:07.000 This led to the Supreme Court changing a lot of its doctrine in what was called a switch in time that saved nine.
00:10:12.000 Meaning that it saved nine seats on the Supreme Court as opposed to 13 seats on the Supreme Court because FDR was threatening to pack the court.
00:10:17.000 Institutions for the Democratic Party are of no interest.
00:10:21.000 They don't like the Structural Constitution because they don't like the fundamental philosophy underlying the Structural Constitution, which is that of limited government and checks and balances that protect your rights.
00:10:29.000 The Constitution was written for a very specific purpose.
00:10:31.000 That purpose was to protect the principles of the Declaration of Independence.
00:10:35.000 And the basic idea was that a government that is unitary in nature, a government that has unified power at the top and no checks and balances, either hierarchically with the states or horizontally between the branches, So why in the world would you let Democrats appoint people to the Supreme Court who are promptly going to use the Supreme Court as another political body?
00:10:51.000 and a government big enough to give you what you want is a government that is also big enough to take away what you have.
00:10:56.000 Democrats have always seen these institutional checks and balances as a problem.
00:11:01.000 So why in the world would you let Democrats appoint people to the Supreme Court who are promptly going to use the Supreme Court as another political body?
00:11:08.000 The Supreme Court's original designation was to interpret the Constitution of the United States.
00:11:12.000 Democrats don't like the Constitution of the United States and have appointed justices who similarly do not like the Constitution of the United States and see it as an obstacle to what they attempt to do.
00:11:21.000 They see the Constitution as a bit of poetry that they can interpret however they see fit.
00:11:25.000 From the Obamacare cases to Roe vs. Wade, Democratic justices never miss.
00:11:29.000 They never miss because they are politically motivated.
00:11:31.000 They do not bother reading the Constitution.
00:11:33.000 The way that you can tell whether a justice reads the Constitution or does not read the Constitution is whether that justice always votes with your political priors or whether that justice sometimes votes against your political priors based on the text of a law before them.
00:11:45.000 Democrats Get what they want from their justices, no question, which is a good indicator as to how they see the court.
00:11:51.000 And you have to understand all of this because that is what is undergirding the battle that we are currently undergoing.
00:11:55.000 The battle that is about to break upon us is one that is, honestly, country-shattering in nature.
00:12:01.000 And it's not because of anything Trump or the Republicans is about to do.
00:12:04.000 As we're about to discuss, what Democrats are threatening to do, violate the structural integrity of the Constitution in massive new ways, violate every norm, break institutions of the Constitution, What they're threatening to do can, in fact, split the country apart.
00:12:19.000 And they're using this as blackmail in order to prevent Republicans from fulfilling their constitutional duty to fill that seat and so that they can pack the court unofficially with another member of the hard left who will then rule in favor of all of their Democratic political strategies.
00:12:35.000 In order to understand that, you have to understand how Democrats see the court.
00:12:37.000 The Democrats do not see the court as an expositor of the Constitution.
00:12:40.000 They see the court as a second legislature.
00:12:43.000 This is why the worship for RBG.
00:12:44.000 You know, conservatives.
00:12:46.000 We really like Clarence Thomas.
00:12:47.000 I'm a huge Clarence Thomas fan.
00:12:49.000 We really like Justice Scalia a lot.
00:12:50.000 But there was never the sort of worshipful insanity you see for Democrats and RBG.
00:12:56.000 RBG was a near idol for many Democrats.
00:12:59.000 In the same way that Democrats have a tendency to buy votive candles of Robert Mueller if he's gonna stop Trump or something.
00:13:05.000 They were worshipful toward RBG.
00:13:08.000 Again, they were calling her the notorious RBG.
00:13:11.000 She was an octogenarian liberal justice who spends her life in the law, and they were treating her as the notorious RBG because she was slaying Queen.
00:13:20.000 Because for the Democrats, when it comes to the Constitution, the Constitution is secondary, political priority is primary.
00:13:26.000 And you can see this in the reaction to RBG's death.
00:13:29.000 Just to take an example, I mean, I think this is the id of the Democratic Party right here.
00:13:32.000 There is a video going around online over the weekend of a liberal woman having a screaming meltdown over the death of RBG.
00:13:38.000 Now, can we be clear about something?
00:13:41.000 If Trump fills this seat, and he fills it with Amy Coney Barrett, or if he fills it With a justice from Florida named Barbara Lagoa.
00:13:48.000 If he fills that seat, the chances of Roe vs. Wade being overturned are nearly zero.
00:13:53.000 I say nearly zero only because I hedge my bets a little bit.
00:13:57.000 They're basically zero.
00:13:58.000 Roe vs. Wade is not going to be overturned.
00:14:00.000 There are not five votes for it.
00:14:02.000 Even if you put someone on the court right now who vowed to overturn Roe v. Wade, there's still not five votes for it.
00:14:07.000 Kavanaugh's not going to vote to overturn Roe v. Wade.
00:14:09.000 Alito, I doubt he's going to vote to overturn Roe v. Wade.
00:14:13.000 And I don't think Gorsuch is going to vote to overturn Roe v. Wade.
00:14:15.000 I think, legit, you have one vote to overturn Roe v. Wade on the Supreme Court right now, and it's Clarence Thomas.
00:14:20.000 So all of the panic, the insane panic you see from Democrats over this seat is because what they want the Supreme Court to be is a green light for every Democratic priority, and they are afraid of anyone appointed to the court who will in any way provide some sort of speed bump in their pursuit of power.
00:14:36.000 That's all this is.
00:14:37.000 So here is this liberal crazy lady screaming about RBG.
00:14:40.000 Holy f***ing s***, you guys!
00:14:44.000 I'm driving your car, but I just got a notification that Ruth Bader Ginsburg died!
00:14:52.000 Could this year get any f***ing worse?!
00:14:57.000 Ruth!
00:14:58.000 You just had to make it to 2021!
00:15:04.000 Okay, so why you would film this and then put it online, except that this does channel a lot of what Democrats are feeling, because for them, the Supreme Court is a tool of power.
00:15:13.000 It was never supposed to be just another member of the triumvirate of checks and balances, executive, legislative, and judicial.
00:15:19.000 This is unreasonable behavior.
00:15:20.000 It is not reasonable behavior.
00:15:22.000 Nobody on the Republican side reacted this way when Sonia Sotomayor filled the seat.
00:15:27.000 If Merrick Garland had been confirmed by the Republican Senate, People would have been upset.
00:15:31.000 Would it have been screaming fits like this?
00:15:33.000 I have serious, serious doubts.
00:15:36.000 The attempt to turn the Supreme Court into just another avenue of power has been the legacy of the Democratic Party for a very long time, which is why they should not be in charge of selecting justices under nearly any circumstances.
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00:17:06.000 Okay, so it's not just that screaming lady who reacts this way.
00:17:09.000 Democrats reacted this way.
00:17:10.000 So AOC, she's talking about, What is on the line here?
00:17:14.000 And this is so ridiculous.
00:17:16.000 It's absolutely ridiculous.
00:17:16.000 I mean, I'm sorry.
00:17:18.000 Here is AOC explaining what is on the line.
00:17:19.000 For Democrats, because they believe the Supreme Court is just supposed to be a second Democratic legislature doing what they want, they don't actually understand what the Supreme Court does.
00:17:26.000 So you're going to hear her say, for example, our reproductive rights are on the line here.
00:17:31.000 No, they really are not.
00:17:32.000 There are legislatures all across the country.
00:17:34.000 Like, lest you forget, if Roe vs. Wade were overturned, which it will not be, To my great chagrin and rage.
00:17:41.000 If Roe vs. Wade were overturned, all that would mean is that New York and Massachusetts and California and Connecticut and every other liberal state would all continue to have abortion on demand.
00:17:50.000 Because it would just devolve all authority back to the state level.
00:17:53.000 It would not actually create a new federal rule against abortion.
00:17:56.000 But here is AOC.
00:17:57.000 Again, they just want what they want from the Supreme Court.
00:18:00.000 And if they don't get it, they're gonna scream and break things.
00:18:04.000 It's extraordinarily important that we understand the stakes of this vacancy.
00:18:10.000 Our reproductive rights are on the line.
00:18:13.000 Our labor rights are on the line.
00:18:16.000 Our right to health care is on the line.
00:18:20.000 Labor and union protections are on the line.
00:18:24.000 Our climate is on the line.
00:18:28.000 Okay, so again, for them, everything is on the line because if they don't have this super legislature that is going to cram down what they want, they're gonna break all of the things.
00:18:36.000 Amy Klobuchar, who's supposed to be a moderate, she said the same thing.
00:18:39.000 She said, our democracy is at stake here.
00:18:41.000 Our democracy is not at stake.
00:18:42.000 If you believe that our democracy was hanging by the slender thread of an 87-year-old woman with pancreatic cancer, if you believe that our democracy was really that thin, the problem is not RBG dying.
00:18:53.000 The problem is that the country is fundamentally broken.
00:18:56.000 But here's Klobuchar saying exactly that.
00:19:00.000 When my Republican colleagues, and some of them have already come out and said the right thing because they understand what's at stake here, that they don't want to join in with the president who is lying and lying and lying in terms of how he's going to handle a Supreme Court nomination.
00:19:17.000 Literally, our democracy is at stake.
00:19:19.000 And I think Michelle Obama said it best when she said, your life depends on it, so you better vote.
00:19:26.000 This is insane.
00:19:27.000 Your life does not depend on your vote.
00:19:28.000 You're not going to die if you vote for a Democrat, and you're not going to die if you vote for a Republican, and you're not going to die if Amy Coney Barrett joins the Supreme Court.
00:19:35.000 I mean, you might die, but it's going to have nothing to do with any of those things.
00:19:38.000 Chuck Schumer says the same thing.
00:19:39.000 Again, for the Democrats, every institution is an institutional club that can be wielded for power, and if we can't wield it, we're going to break it.
00:19:45.000 It is that simple.
00:19:47.000 This is a weapon, and if I can't wield the weapon, I'm going to break the weapon.
00:19:50.000 That's what Chuck Schumer is saying here.
00:19:53.000 We're here to protect the rights of our globe and the people who live on it so that climate is protected.
00:20:03.000 A court with the kind of nominee President Trump will choose will undo all of that.
00:20:09.000 Okay, can I just point out there is no constitutional right for the globe in the Constitution.
00:20:13.000 Okay, the Earth, you know, a big ball of matter, it does not actually have rights under the Constitution of the United States because it's a giant inanimate object floating through space.
00:20:22.000 Also, it is not the job of the Supreme Court to make global warming policy.
00:20:25.000 It is the job of the Supreme Court to interpret whether, in fact, an executive agency is acting in accordance with legislative policy or whether that legislative policy actually violates the tenets of the Constitution.
00:20:35.000 It is your job.
00:20:36.000 You're the Senate Minority Leader.
00:20:37.000 It's your job to make policy you think protects the globe and global warming.
00:20:41.000 That's not the job of the Supreme Court.
00:20:42.000 What he's really talking about there is he wants the Supreme Court to read into the Clean Air Act that carbon emissions can be considered a pollutant, which of course was never considered under the Clean Air Act.
00:20:51.000 But this is exactly how Democrats think about the court.
00:20:54.000 The court is just a tool of power to hammer.
00:20:57.000 And so this leads to tremendous levels of dishonesty.
00:20:59.000 AOC said, I can't believe that Mitch McConnell won't honor RBG's last wish.
00:21:03.000 Again, what does she think we live in, a monarchy?
00:21:07.000 That's not the way this works, honor RBG's last wish.
00:21:10.000 First of all, honestly, I hope that RBG had other wishes besides that for her last wish.
00:21:15.000 I hope that that is a bit of exaggerated rhetoric for purposes of the political moment from the family.
00:21:22.000 I hope that she was thinking about other things on her deathbed because I wouldn't want to be thinking about politics as I died.
00:21:27.000 That just seems like an unpleasant way to go.
00:21:29.000 But here is AOC.
00:21:31.000 Here's AOC saying that the Republicans are bad because they won't honor RBG's last wish.
00:21:36.000 I guess when Clarence Thomas goes, you know, hopefully in 25 years or something, when Clarence Thomas goes, he should wish for a complete reversion to the constitutional order and structure that the founders intended, meaning that we wipe away several million federal jobs.
00:21:36.000 Well, good news.
00:21:49.000 And we'll just honor his last wish because that's what I didn't realize there was that constitutional provision.
00:21:53.000 The last wish of a dying justice must be implemented by the legislature.
00:21:57.000 Who knew?
00:21:57.000 Who knew?
00:22:00.000 Tonight, Mitch McConnell publicly, the night of her passing, he couldn't wait 24 hours, issued a statement saying that he was going to give Trump a vote in violation of her dying wish.
00:22:21.000 People can say how appalling, people can say this is horrible, etc.
00:22:25.000 But we know who this man is.
00:22:28.000 We know who this man is.
00:22:30.000 This is a man who does not care about a dying woman's final wish.
00:22:37.000 What is this?
00:22:38.000 I'm sorry.
00:22:38.000 That's absurd.
00:22:39.000 It's absurd.
00:22:40.000 It's an absurdity of the highest order that the Senate should be sitting there going, yes, but what did they write in their will?
00:22:45.000 She can't will the seat.
00:22:47.000 She doesn't own the seat.
00:22:49.000 But when you believe that the Democrats ought to control the auspices of power and they can will that power to other people, this is what you get.
00:22:57.000 And so Democrats have said nothing is off the table.
00:22:59.000 Democrats have said, nothing is off the table.
00:23:03.000 Both Chuck Schumer and Blumenthal, Senator Blumenthal from Connecticut, Richard Blumenthal, they've both said, nothing is off the table.
00:23:10.000 According to CNN's senior congressional correspondent, Manu Raju, he reported that Schumer told Democrats on a call, let me be clear, if Leader McConnell and Senate Republicans move forward with this, nothing is off the table for next year.
00:23:19.000 Nothing is off the table.
00:23:21.000 20 minutes later, Richard Blumenthal made the same threat.
00:23:23.000 He tweeted, if Republicans recklessly and reprehensibly force a Supreme Court vote before the election, nothing is off the table.
00:23:30.000 So what do they mean by nothing is off the table?
00:23:33.000 What they mean by nothing is off the table is that they will think about packing the court.
00:23:37.000 They will think about using impeachment.
00:23:40.000 Axios reports today that they are talking about adding Supreme Court justices, eliminating the filibuster, and statehood for DC and Puerto Rico.
00:23:48.000 Now, there's only one problem.
00:23:50.000 As Mitch McConnell's spokesperson said, every single threat they are currently making, they already made four months ago.
00:23:56.000 So they already shot the hostage.
00:23:58.000 If this is a hostage negotiation, they already shot the hostage.
00:24:01.000 Also, I have a basic rule of constitutional jurisprudence.
00:24:04.000 Do not negotiate with constitutional terrorists.
00:24:06.000 If people are threatening to break every institution of government unless you give them what they want, why would you then give them power over that government?
00:24:11.000 That makes no sense at all.
00:24:13.000 We'll get to this in just one second.
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00:25:23.000 So Democrats are threatening to break everything.
00:25:26.000 So according to Axios, adding Supreme Court justices eliminating the Senate 60 vote threshold to end filibusters and statehood for DC and Puerto Rico. If he holds a vote in 2020, we'll pack the court in 2021, said Representative Joe Kennedy of Massachusetts.
00:25:38.000 According to Axios, Democrats are not optimistic about blocking the nominee, but they have many ways of retaliating if they win Senate control and are licking their chops about real movement and ideas that have been pushed futilely for decades.
00:25:51.000 For instance, the Constitution does not fix the number of justices, which could be changed by an act of Congress and the president's signature, according to the National Constitution Center.
00:26:01.000 Apparently, again, Schumer has already said that he would think about packing the court.
00:26:05.000 House Judiciary Chair Jerry Nadler tweeted yesterday, if Senator McConnell and Senate GOP were to force through a nominee during the lame duck session before a new Senate and president can take office, then the incoming Senate should immediately move to expand the Supreme Court. Former Obama Attorney General Eric Holder, who's been championed as Captain Abide by the Law, which was always absurd. He backed that idea yesterday as well. Also, we already know that Democrats have talked about eliminating the filibuster.
00:26:29.000 Remember that President Obama, who used the filibuster many, many times.
00:26:32.000 Robustly, he used the filibuster during his Senate career.
00:26:36.000 He called the filibuster rule a Jim Crow relic.
00:26:39.000 Remember, Democrats have used that Jim Crow relic several times this year to stymie Republican legislation, including a coronavirus relief bill, as well as a police reform bill.
00:26:47.000 They've also talked about adding D.C.
00:26:50.000 and adding Puerto Rico as states in the assumption that both of those will then vote Democrat, which would add four Democratic senators and completely skew the balance of power in the Senate of the United States.
00:26:58.000 That would be a complete violation of institutional norms going back all the way to the beginning of the republic.
00:27:02.000 If there were two sides in America, Whatever those sides were, pro-slavery, anti-slavery, Democratic versus Republican, the basic rule was, whatever the two sides were, if you were going to add states, you added them two at a time, one for one side, one for the other, so you didn't violate the constitutional structure and create an impetus for states to believe that they were being jobbed and then leave the union.
00:27:22.000 Democrats are talking about pushing incredibly, incredibly hard.
00:27:25.000 Brian Fallon, Executive Director of Demand Justice, And a former Toph Schumer aide said, one, a post-Trump nominee prior to the election invoking the GOP's own rule from 2016, as we'll say in a second, that was not in fact the GOP rule from 2016.
00:27:38.000 The GOP rule was never, at least not according, as Mitch McConnell articulated it, it was never, a president cannot have his nominee confirmed in the final year of his term.
00:27:45.000 It was, if the president is of a different party from the Senate, he cannot guarantee that his nominee will be confirmed.
00:27:52.000 Which again, historically happens to be true.
00:27:54.000 Okay, Erwin Chemerinsky, who is a longtime Democratic theorist from USC, he has a piece out today in the LA Times openly calling for the Democrats to pack the court.
00:27:59.000 He says that this is the secret weapon.
00:28:00.000 They should pack the court ASAP.
00:28:01.000 the play there is no other play. Erwin Chemerinsky who is a longtime Democratic theorist from USC he has a piece out today in the LA Times openly calling for the Democrats to pack the court. He says that this is the secret weapon they should they should pack the court ASAP.
00:28:23.000 He says the Democrats have few cards to play.
00:28:25.000 Even if that happened, all that would happen is that there would be additional abortion restrictions in red states.
00:28:30.000 There would not be abortion restrictions in blue states.
00:28:31.000 That would continue as is.
00:28:32.000 individual rights, including a decision to strike down Louisiana's restrictive abortion law and to invalidate Trump's rescission of DACA.
00:28:38.000 If Ginsburg is replaced, the chance of such rulings will evaporate.
00:28:41.000 OK, let's be frank about this again.
00:28:43.000 Even if that happened, all that would happen is that there would be additional abortion restrictions in red states.
00:28:47.000 There would not be abortion restrictions in blue states that would continue as is.
00:28:51.000 And DACA, by the way, that was a bad decision.
00:28:54.000 One way for Democrats to make clear is, according to Tremorinsky.
00:28:57.000 One way for Democrats to make clear they will not tolerate Republicans trying to fill this seat in advance of the election would be for them to pledge that if they take the White House and Senate in November, they will increase the size of the Supreme Court to 13 justices.
00:29:07.000 The number of justices on the court is set by federal law, not the Constitution.
00:29:11.000 Since its beginning, it has ranged from having between five and ten members.
00:29:13.000 Since the 1860s, it has remained at nine.
00:29:17.000 So now he says we should pack the court.
00:29:20.000 First of all, it's not putting party over principle to vote for a nominee that a president of your party nominated.
00:29:23.000 And Post saying exactly the same thing.
00:29:25.000 If McConnell pushes through a nominee, President Biden should pack the court.
00:29:29.000 Republicans have put party over principle, Biden can do something about it.
00:29:32.000 Hey, first of all, it's not putting party over principle to vote for a nominee that a president of your party nominated.
00:29:38.000 That is like the way things are generally done.
00:29:41.000 It's only the stupidity of Republicans in confirming a bunch of Democratic hacks to the Supreme Court that has led to this current belief that Republicans have an obligation to vote on Merrick Garland should not vote on the Republican nominee.
00:29:54.000 By the way, it's fun to watch everybody rush to the other side, right?
00:29:56.000 So you have a bunch of people who in 2016 were like, yeah, we don't have to vote on Merrick Garland.
00:30:00.000 And Democrats are like, you have to vote on Merrick Garland.
00:30:02.000 You must vote on Merrick Garland.
00:30:03.000 And now it's four years later, like you must never vote on Amy Coney Barrett.
00:30:07.000 You must never do it.
00:30:08.000 Like the switch in time is pretty incredible.
00:30:11.000 People just rushing side to side frantically as the Titanic goes down.
00:30:14.000 According to Joe Filippovich, For liberals, Ruth Bader Ginsburg's death brings shock that Nikon is gone, that she didn't make it until the next presidency, and terror.
00:30:22.000 Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, who in 2016 blocked President Barack Obama from filling a Supreme Court seat vacated about nine months before the presidential election, says he will permit Trump to fill one left empty less than two months before this year's election.
00:30:36.000 Democrats have only one play here.
00:30:38.000 If Trump and McConnell jam at a pointy through, it is not enough for Democrats to raise hell about the hypocrisy, the duplicity.
00:30:43.000 It's not enough to target every Republican senator who goes along.
00:30:46.000 It's not enough to have voters bombard the Republican senators' offices with phone calls and protests.
00:30:50.000 Because those things have been happening for four years, and none of them have persuaded the GOP to put stability of the country or obligations of office ahead of that party's thirst for power.
00:30:59.000 So Democrats should threaten to pack the court.
00:31:01.000 And if McConnell pushes through a new justice and Joe Biden wins, they should follow through.
00:31:06.000 So, Democrats are threatening to break the institutions.
00:31:09.000 That's not the only institution they are threatening to break, by the way.
00:31:12.000 They're also threatening to use impeachment.
00:31:14.000 And so, last I checked, impeachment was for high crimes or misdemeanors.
00:31:17.000 Now, listen, you can impeach for any reason.
00:31:19.000 It is perfectly constitutional to impeach for any reason under the sun.
00:31:21.000 But there has been a general rule that, at the very least, you ought to have the slender reed of some basis for an impeachment.
00:31:27.000 Democrats are now saying, what if we just impeached Rando McFace over here to hold up the Senate's business so they can't actually confirm a justice?
00:31:34.000 AOC said this.
00:31:35.000 She says, what if we just impeach Trump or Barr or like Bob, you know, the janitor over at the White House?
00:31:39.000 Let's impeach that guy because that'll hold up the Senate.
00:31:41.000 Here was AOC.
00:31:42.000 The fact that AOC and Schumer did a joint presser about this is pretty incredible.
00:31:45.000 What do you make of this?
00:32:02.000 We must consider, again, all of the tools available to our disposal, and that all of these options should be entertained and on the table.
00:32:11.000 Okay, so there it is.
00:32:12.000 And then Nancy Pelosi was asked about this.
00:32:14.000 And she said that we have arrows in our quiver.
00:32:16.000 Many, many arrows in our quiver.
00:32:17.000 It was fun.
00:32:18.000 I mean, George Stephanopoulos, who has led a life of attempting to basically spout Democratic talking points through his questions.
00:32:25.000 You'll recall back in 2012, when he randomly asked in the middle of a Republican debate whether Mitt Romney was going to get rid of contraceptives.
00:32:30.000 And everybody was like, what in the hell is he talking about?
00:32:32.000 And then immediately within a week, turned into the war on women narrative pushed by the Democratic Party.
00:32:36.000 Well, here is George Stephanopoulos, who obviously had some ideas planted with him. I mean, it's pretty obvious here. He plants the idea of Nancy Pelosi supposedly of impeachment. Here he is saying, what if we just impeach Trump to, you know, hold up the business of the Senate? Some have mentioned the possibility if they try to push through a nominee in a lame duck session that you and the House could move to impeach President Trump or Attorney General Barr as a way of stalling and preventing the Senate from acting
00:33:02.000 on this nomination. Well, we have our options.
00:33:06.000 We have arrows in our quiver that I'm not about to discuss right now.
00:33:12.000 But the fact is, we have a big challenge in our country.
00:33:15.000 Okay, worth noting that Pelosi then completely lost her train of thought in the middle of the conversation and literally restarted the interview.
00:33:20.000 So one of the great things about our current republic is that everybody is geriatric and senile who is currently in a position of power or running for a position of power.
00:33:28.000 When the young buck is Chuck Schumer, you know you're in trouble.
00:33:30.000 Here's Nancy Pelosi completely losing her train of thought and nearly keeling over.
00:33:35.000 Ten states, as I said, on Friday started their early voting the day that we lost Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
00:33:42.000 But to be clear, you're not taking any arrows out of your quiver.
00:33:45.000 You're not ruling anything out.
00:33:49.000 Good morning.
00:33:50.000 Sunday morning.
00:33:54.000 We have a responsibility.
00:33:56.000 Wow.
00:33:57.000 It's weird when those gears get stuck there for just a second and the Botox infuses the brain.
00:34:00.000 So all good stuff happening in the country.
00:34:03.000 Here's the bottom line for a lot of this.
00:34:05.000 What's happening right now is the Democrats are threatening to destroy institutions.
00:34:08.000 And the media are telling Trump that he is destroying institutions by doing exactly what the Constitution says a president is supposed to do.
00:34:14.000 And that McConnell is destroying institutions by doing exactly what the Senate is supposed to do.
00:34:19.000 You can't negotiate with political terrorists.
00:34:21.000 It is political terrorism to threaten to burn down every institution of government unless you get your way.
00:34:25.000 It's what my son does when he is fussing, and he decides to lie on the floor and scream and shout.
00:34:29.000 He does not get what he wants.
00:34:30.000 He goes to his room.
00:34:32.000 In fact, it is significantly more important that Republicans now put through a justice simply to make the point that Democrats cannot threaten to burn down every institution of constitutional government because they don't like the outcome of the system.
00:34:46.000 Here's the reality of the situation.
00:34:47.000 Roe vs. Wade is not going to be overturned in all likelihood.
00:34:49.000 Ruth Bader Ginsburg should have stepped down 10 years ago.
00:34:49.000 2.
00:34:52.000 If you don't like how this went, that is only on the Democrats.
00:34:56.000 3.
00:34:56.000 If Democrats gain power, undoubtedly they will have some opportunities to pick Supreme Court justices as well.
00:35:01.000 This is how the system works.
00:35:02.000 But we have now seen from the Democrats that they have no respect for any of the institutional architecture of the Constitution.
00:35:09.000 We've been seeing this throughout.
00:35:10.000 For all the talk about Trump violating institutional norms because Trump says vulgar things and boorish things and he's blunt and he says all this stuff.
00:35:16.000 The fact is, Democrats trotted out Stacey Abrams at the DNC claiming she was governor of Georgia after losing by 50,000 votes.
00:35:23.000 I don't want to hear about institutional norms when your party is openly threatening to pack the court, impeach people for no reason, just to hold up the process, Add states willy-nilly through simple majority vote and break whatever balance there is in the United States.
00:35:37.000 And here's the predictable result of this.
00:35:39.000 Let's say that the Democrats went forward with all of this.
00:35:41.000 Let's say that the Democrats really went for it.
00:35:43.000 Let's say that they did all of this.
00:35:44.000 Let's say the Republicans appoint Amy Coney Barrett.
00:35:46.000 They confirm Amy Coney Barrett.
00:35:48.000 Joe Biden comes in.
00:35:49.000 And then he says, we're adding four Supreme Court justices and Puerto Rico, D.C.
00:35:52.000 and Guam all become states.
00:35:54.000 We now have six new senators and they are all Democrats.
00:35:56.000 And that's what we're doing.
00:35:58.000 Let's say that happens.
00:35:58.000 How long do you think the country lasts after that?
00:36:01.000 Do you think that Texas, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, any of those states are going to abide by federal dictates coming down from a perverted form of constitutional government nobody consented to?
00:36:12.000 Do you think that they're going to abide by a constitutional decision coming from a court of 13 packed by Democrats?
00:36:18.000 Do you think that states are simply going to remain as they become minorities in a government to which they did not consent?
00:36:24.000 Do you think that that is going to happen?
00:36:26.000 Or do you think we are going to come to a true constitutional impasse?
00:36:28.000 It is not the appointment of the justice that is a constitutional impasse.
00:36:31.000 It is the violation of the system itself that is the constitutional impasse.
00:36:36.000 Republicans cannot give in to this.
00:36:37.000 Because if you are living with the sword of Damocles hanging over your head every moment, that, oh, if we don't give Democrats what they want, guys, you know, next time they get power, they're going to kill the filibuster, add states, destroy the Supreme Court.
00:36:47.000 Well, then guess what?
00:36:48.000 We do not have a social compact anymore.
00:36:50.000 So maybe Democrats want to make clear we don't have a social compact anymore.
00:36:53.000 But if they do, it's on them.
00:36:55.000 If they do, it's on them.
00:36:56.000 And guess what?
00:36:57.000 If a state says, if Texas says, we are not, let's say that a Democratic Senate passes a gun confiscation measure that violates the Second Amendment, and a packed Democratic Supreme Court then says, you know what?
00:37:07.000 Second Amendment no longer is in the Constitution.
00:37:09.000 Go ahead.
00:37:10.000 Do what you want.
00:37:11.000 You think Texas is going to abide by that?
00:37:13.000 They won't, and they should not.
00:37:15.000 Okay, because the bottom line is whoever breaks the system is now responsible for the breaking of the system.
00:37:19.000 Appointing injustice and confirming injustice is not breaking the system.
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00:38:40.000 Okay, so Democrats are now engaged in open constitutional blackmail.
00:38:48.000 We're going to impeach people for no reason.
00:38:49.000 We're going to pack the court.
00:38:50.000 We're going to add states.
00:38:51.000 We're going to kill the filibuster.
00:38:52.000 We're going to destroy every institution of government because wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, we didn't get our way.
00:38:57.000 That's the short version of this.
00:38:59.000 Naturally, the media are proclaiming that Republicans are violating constitutional norms by nominating and confirming injustice.
00:39:05.000 As we've already discussed, this is not the case.
00:39:07.000 So President Trump came out immediately and he said he was at a rally when he found out about this and then he was told about it on the way back to his plane on the tarmac.
00:39:15.000 He said some nice words about RBG.
00:39:16.000 Then over the weekend, he did another rally in North Carolina and he said, I'm going to nominate a woman this week.
00:39:20.000 I could see most likely it would be a woman.
00:39:23.000 Yeah, I think I could say that it would be a woman.
00:39:25.000 I would if somebody were to ask me now, I would say that a woman would be In first place, yes.
00:39:34.000 We'll be making a decision.
00:39:35.000 I think the process can go very, very fast.
00:39:38.000 I'll be making my choice soon, and when the choice is made, I'll be sending it over to Mitch in the Senate, and they will do what they have to do.
00:39:48.000 I think the choice will be next week.
00:39:50.000 Okay, so this, of course, sets the world aflame.
00:39:53.000 Mitch McConnell said immediately after this that he was going to fill the seat.
00:39:56.000 He came out very quickly.
00:39:57.000 He said, we're not going to sit by and not fill the seat.
00:40:00.000 He said, President Trump's nominee will receive a vote on the floor of the United States Senate.
00:40:04.000 Senate Majority Whip John Thune, who is the number two, he said, I believe Americans sent a Republican president and a Republican Senate to Washington to ensure we have an impartial judiciary that upholds the Constitution and the rule of law.
00:40:14.000 We will fulfill our obligation to them.
00:40:16.000 As Leader McConnell has said, President Trump's Supreme Court nominee will receive a vote on the floor of the United States Senate.
00:40:23.000 Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins immediately said no.
00:40:26.000 They said they're not going to vote on any nominee that comes forward this year.
00:40:30.000 It's not a shock that Murkowski is doing that.
00:40:30.000 That is not a shock.
00:40:32.000 That is very Murkowski.
00:40:33.000 It's not really a shock that Collins is doing that either.
00:40:35.000 Collins had expressed hesitance at voting this way in the final year of Trump's term, and she's an extremely competitive race in Maine right now.
00:40:43.000 This basically leaves two senators who are up for grabs.
00:40:46.000 So Republicans can lose three and then have Pence break the tie.
00:40:49.000 So there is a time limit on this.
00:40:51.000 In Arizona, Democrat Mark Kelly is running against GOP Senator Martha McSally.
00:40:57.000 The winner would be sworn in probably November 30th, depending on if she is replaced.
00:41:02.000 If that happens, then the Republicans lose a vote.
00:41:05.000 So basically, Trump has to get this done now.
00:41:07.000 One of the questions is, is he going to try and get this done now?
00:41:09.000 Try to do it in a lame duck session?
00:41:10.000 He should try and do it now.
00:41:11.000 He should try to get it done right now.
00:41:13.000 And let the Democrats have their hearings.
00:41:14.000 Let them try and slime whoever the Republican nominee is, Kavanaugh style, which they absolutely will do.
00:41:19.000 That's already begun, as we'll talk about in just a second.
00:41:22.000 So right now, Republicans can lose three but not four.
00:41:25.000 So they've already lost Collins, they've already lost Murkowski.
00:41:27.000 That means they can afford to lose one more, but not two.
00:41:29.000 So Grassley, Senator Chuck Grassley from Iowa, he had suggested earlier this year that he might not be up for voting for a Trump nominee in the final year of his term.
00:41:38.000 So he's sort of, we don't know.
00:41:40.000 Mitt Romney would be the other one because Romney, of course, voted in favor of impeachment.
00:41:44.000 And he's a big, I like to be seen as genteel and civil kind of guy, even though he was absolutely obliterated by a less than genteel Obama-Biden campaign in 2012.
00:41:55.000 But there was a rumor going around on Friday that he was already moving away from voting for the nominee, and then his spokesperson came out and said, no, that's not true.
00:42:03.000 So right now it appears that there will be enough Republican votes, although again, this thing is on a knife's edge.
00:42:12.000 Wouldn't be if Alabama Republicans hadn't nominated Roy Moore, but that's another story.
00:42:17.000 So the way that the media are trying to spin this is Republicans are violating norms.
00:42:21.000 Yes, that's correct.
00:42:22.000 Democrats are threatening to impeach.
00:42:24.000 They're threatening to pack the Supreme Court, add states, kill the filibuster.
00:42:28.000 Four separate things that violate every institutional norm, including norms that have been in place for about 150 years.
00:42:34.000 And Republicans, for performing their exact Article 1 functions, are apparently violating a constitutional norm.
00:42:43.000 Now, the way that the Democrats are trying to claim that Republicans are violating the norm is, of course, because Republicans did not bring up Merrick Garland for a vote in 2016.
00:42:51.000 Now, there are a couple of things to be said about this.
00:42:54.000 One, I'm of the opinion that you should never vote for, as I've said, never vote for a justice who is going to pervert the Constitution, which means I would have voted against Sotomayor.
00:43:01.000 I would have voted against Kagan.
00:43:03.000 Hell, I would have voted against John Roberts.
00:43:04.000 I mean, the fact is that unless you have a proven track record of voting constitutionally in court cases, I would not vote for you under any circumstance.
00:43:11.000 I don't care whether it's year one.
00:43:12.000 I don't care whether it is year seven.
00:43:14.000 It is your absolute constitutional duty not to vote for justices you know will pervert the Constitution out of some weird perception of keeping order in the Senate.
00:43:24.000 That's not how any of this works.
00:43:26.000 There was this norm for many years that nominees would pass with flying colors.
00:43:30.000 So, for example, Ruth Bader Ginsburg was confirmed with an extraordinary majority, right?
00:43:34.000 Ginsburg originally confirmed by the Senate with, I believe, was it 99 votes?
00:43:40.000 Something like that.
00:43:42.000 She was confirmed by an overwhelming vote.
00:43:45.000 96 to 3.
00:43:46.000 96 to 3, she was confirmed, which is absurd.
00:43:48.000 I mean, she was a NOW lawyer, right?
00:43:49.000 She was for the National Organization of Women, obviously very far to the left.
00:43:53.000 But there was still this sort of weird hangover from the 40s, 50s, 60s, where as long as the person wasn't obviously judicially unqualified, you were going to vote for them no matter what.
00:44:04.000 That broke during the Bork hearings, and then it broke again during the Thomas hearings, and then it seriously broke during the Kavanaugh hearings, when Democrats took a very well-qualified jurist, no matter what you think his ideology is, and suggested he was a rapist.
00:44:14.000 At that point, Republicans were like, we're out.
00:44:16.000 Right?
00:44:16.000 We're done here.
00:44:18.000 Now, this thing's been openly partisan for quite a while.
00:44:21.000 Every time Bush nominated someone, it was a far narrower vote.
00:44:23.000 Alito was a pretty narrow vote.
00:44:25.000 Roberts was a fairly narrow vote, actually.
00:44:27.000 Speaking of just broader votes.
00:44:29.000 Okay, but, bottom line is this.
00:44:32.000 McConnell in 2016 said, if the parties are controlled, if the chambers are controlled by different parties, we have no obligation to bring the person up for a vote in the final year of an election.
00:44:39.000 The idea being once we get past the election, if it's Hillary, then we will confirm Merrick Garland.
00:44:43.000 Now I always, again, I always thought that was stupid.
00:44:44.000 I thought it was too clever by half.
00:44:45.000 He should have just said, we're not confirming anybody that we don't like.
00:44:49.000 He could have just done that.
00:44:50.000 He didn't do that.
00:44:51.000 Okay, so he got too clever.
00:44:52.000 Because he got too clever, now Democrats are trying to suggest that it's hypocrisy.
00:44:57.000 It is worth noting that it's hypocrisy in the other direction as well.
00:44:59.000 I know everybody's ignoring this, but it is hypocrisy in the other direction as well.
00:45:02.000 Here's every Democrat under the sun in 2016 saying that Merrick Garland's seat should be filled, apparently by a Republican Senate, who disagrees with the nominee.
00:45:11.000 The blockade on filling a naturally occurring vacancy, in my view, is harmful to the independence of the Article 3 branch.
00:45:18.000 You cannot keep a seat on the Supreme Court which represents all of us.
00:45:23.000 You cannot keep it vacant against the Constitution.
00:45:27.000 Do pretty much everything they can to avoid acknowledging the legitimacy of our democratically elected president.
00:45:35.000 The American people expect the president's nominee to be given a fair hearing and a timely vote in the Senate.
00:45:41.000 Every day that goes by without a ninth justice is another day the American people's business is not getting done.
00:45:48.000 So every Democrat flipped, right?
00:45:49.000 Every Democrat flipped.
00:45:50.000 So they're saying Republicans flipped on this.
00:45:51.000 The only difference is that Republicans were in the majority both times.
00:45:54.000 So they said we don't have to vote on the Democrat and we will vote on the person we like.
00:45:57.000 That is not an unprincipled stand.
00:45:59.000 That is a perfectly principled stand, badly articulated in 2016.
00:46:02.000 So you end up with questions like this from Chris Wallace to Tom Cotton, the senator from Arkansas.
00:46:07.000 I really don't think there is any hypocrisy at all in saying we need to give voters, because, I mean, you can parse the 2014 election, the 2018 election any way you want, but you stated a pretty firm principle in 2016 about Merrick Garland.
00:46:22.000 It's wrong to deny voters a chance to weigh in.
00:46:25.000 You don't see any hypocrisy between that position then and this position now?
00:46:31.000 Chris, the Senate majority is performing our constitutional duty and fulfilling the mandate that the voters gave us.
00:46:37.000 Okay.
00:46:38.000 Bottom line is this.
00:46:39.000 There was never any principle that shouldn't have been any principle about the last year of a presidency.
00:46:44.000 That's silly.
00:46:45.000 Again, 29 people have been nominated in that time.
00:46:49.000 When the party of the Senate is shared with the party of the presidency, then the person ends up being confirmed.
00:46:55.000 When not, generally not.
00:46:57.000 Right?
00:46:57.000 It is indeed that simple.
00:46:59.000 Now, that's not stopping the Democrats from lying about the principle.
00:47:02.000 So, Barack Obama put out a little statement.
00:47:05.000 Always too long, because word counts and Barack Obama have never met.
00:47:08.000 But, he wrote, a basic principle of the law and of everyday fairness is that we apply rules with consistency and not based on what's convenient or advantageous in the moment.
00:47:16.000 Ha ha ha ha ha!
00:47:17.000 I'm sorry, Barack Obama talking about applying rules fairly and not in advantageous ways?
00:47:22.000 From Captain Penn and a phone over here?
00:47:24.000 From Captain Let Me Drone an American Citizen While Declaring a War in Libya Without Congressional Approval?
00:47:29.000 Neutral principles, Barack Obama, come on.
00:47:31.000 Don't make me laugh.
00:47:32.000 The rule of law, the legitimacy of our courts, the fundamental workings of our democracy all depend on that basic principle.
00:47:36.000 Also, we should get rid of the filibuster, add states, destroy the integrity of the Supreme Court, and maybe just maybe, you know, basically do what I want when I'm president of the United States at all times, regardless of the politically neutral principle.
00:47:48.000 I'm sorry.
00:47:50.000 So I heard from some conservatives over the weekend Well, before the weekend, because it was Friday afternoon, I heard from some conservatives and they were saying, listen, if we want the country to hold together, then there needs to be some sort of compromise here.
00:48:03.000 If we want the country to hold together, there needs to be a compromise.
00:48:05.000 And the compromise needs to be that the Republicans back off of this and Democrats back off of their threats.
00:48:10.000 Because, you know, we have two sides.
00:48:12.000 They disagree on everything.
00:48:14.000 And if we want them not to pack the court, if we want them not to add states... And I said, OK, so what is the guarantee they don't do that anyway, considering they've been talking about it for a long time?
00:48:22.000 Where is the trust?
00:48:23.000 There's no trust that they're not going to do it.
00:48:24.000 The fact they're even making that threat betrays the lack of trust.
00:48:29.000 I mean, is this a peace deal or is this a terrorist deal?
00:48:33.000 You don't concede.
00:48:34.000 I've said this the third time I've said it on show.
00:48:36.000 It's true.
00:48:36.000 You don't concede to political terrorists.
00:48:38.000 They're threatening to fundamentally burn down the system if they do not get what they want here.
00:48:42.000 You cannot concede to that.
00:48:44.000 In fact, it makes it more important than ever that you fulfill the constitutional mandate and fill the seat.
00:48:49.000 Fill the damn seat.
00:48:50.000 Fill it right now.
00:48:51.000 Do not wait.
00:48:52.000 Fill it this week.
00:48:53.000 Force the Democrats to hold hearings on Amy Coney Barrett or whomever else Donald Trump picks.
00:48:58.000 So Joe Biden is trying to walk it back, right?
00:48:59.000 Joe Biden, this has some real electoral implications, what's happening right now.
00:49:03.000 So the Democrats are stuck a little bit between a rock and a hard place.
00:49:07.000 Nobody knows how this is gonna break poll-wise, right?
00:49:09.000 It throws a hand grenade in the middle of the election, no question.
00:49:13.000 There are serious electoral implications to this.
00:49:15.000 If Democrats go too far, if Democrats either try to bork Amy Coney Barrett, a Catholic mother of seven from Indiana, With very well-qualified resume.
00:49:25.000 If they try to borker, or if they threaten that they're going to add states to the country, if they threaten they're going to pack the Supreme Court, if they threaten to impeach, if they go wild here, that puts Joe Biden's campaign in danger.
00:49:37.000 The reason it puts Joe Biden's campaign in danger is because Joe Biden was supposed to be a breath.
00:49:41.000 That was Joe Biden's candidacy.
00:49:42.000 He was, yes, I'm old.
00:49:43.000 Yes, I'm doddering.
00:49:44.000 Yes, I'm barely coherent.
00:49:45.000 But that's the pitch.
00:49:46.000 That's not the bug.
00:49:47.000 That's the feature, right?
00:49:49.000 I'm basically, I'm not even alive.
00:49:50.000 That's why you should vote for me, because this has been crazy, right?
00:49:53.000 I mean, it's been four years of constant, nonstop tweeting and stress and crazy.
00:49:59.000 Elect Joe Biden.
00:50:00.000 This walking corpse over here.
00:50:02.000 And you can finally take a breath because I mean, really, is anything going to get done with this doddering old guy over there kind of like walking around eating his cream of wheat?
00:50:08.000 Probably not.
00:50:09.000 Right.
00:50:09.000 That was the pitch.
00:50:10.000 And it was a good pitch.
00:50:11.000 Right.
00:50:11.000 That is a good pitch.
00:50:12.000 I've said for years that was going to be the Democrats best pitch was a return, a return to normalcy.
00:50:16.000 Everything will go back to normal.
00:50:17.000 Everybody can breathe for the first time in years.
00:50:20.000 OK, that pitch completely disappears the moment the entire Democratic Party infrastructure threatens to destroy every institutional norm of the system.
00:50:31.000 If the Democrats now say that if Joe Biden is president, we are adding two states and four Democratic senators permanently shifting the balance of power in the United States Senate.
00:50:40.000 If the Democrats say we are going to add four Supreme Court justices with lifetime tenure, which means that if a Republican ever gains power, they have to pack the court.
00:50:48.000 So we end up with 29 members of the Supreme Court.
00:50:51.000 And if not, then Democrats have then gamed the system.
00:50:55.000 If Democrats say, we're going to kill the filibuster and ram through whatever we damn well please with a packed Supreme Court to greenlight it, breaking the system in every way, right?
00:51:03.000 Because no state is going to abide by that.
00:51:06.000 Again, if you are Texas or Mississippi or Georgia or Florida, are you going to sit around and listen to a federal government with 51 votes, no filibuster, greenlit by a packed Supreme Court, tell you that constitutional norms no longer exist and they can pass whatever they damned well please?
00:51:22.000 This is no longer a campaign running for a return to normalcy.
00:51:25.000 This is a campaign running for a complete remaking of the American government toward a direction that nobody has consented to.
00:51:32.000 And Joe Biden knows this, right?
00:51:34.000 Joe Biden knows that the more Democrats fulminate over this, the more they look radical, the more they look scary.
00:51:39.000 It becomes a referendum on what the Democrats will do, not on Donald Trump's weirdness.
00:51:43.000 Because here's the thing, what Donald Trump's doing right now is perfectly normal.
00:51:46.000 Every single president who has ever encountered a Supreme Court opening has nominated a human to fill that opening.
00:51:51.000 Every single one.
00:51:53.000 So Donald Trump is right now doing the most normal thing he has ever done in his presidency.
00:51:58.000 Donald Trump is being extremely normal, I know.
00:52:00.000 Sentence I never thought I would say.
00:52:02.000 What he is doing right now is the most normal thing he has ever done in his entire presidency.
00:52:06.000 Bar none!
00:52:08.000 A seat has been opened.
00:52:09.000 He is filling the seat.
00:52:10.000 Democrats are now the party of radicalism.
00:52:13.000 Democrats are now the party of not normal.
00:52:15.000 It is not normal to threaten to impeach somebody just to hold up the Senate process.
00:52:19.000 It is not normal to say that with 51 votes, you're going to pass whatever legislation you want, including full states with their own sets of senators.
00:52:27.000 That is not normal.
00:52:28.000 You don't get to claim Donald Trump is a threat to America's core institutions while simultaneously threatening to violate every single norm and completely change the structure of the balance of power and the institutions themselves.
00:52:39.000 You can't do that.
00:52:41.000 You know who knows that?
00:52:41.000 It's Joe Biden.
00:52:42.000 So Joe Biden is scared.
00:52:44.000 And so what Joe Biden is saying is, we need to deescalate.
00:52:47.000 So Joe Biden is not actually willing to make these threats.
00:52:50.000 The reason he's not willing to make the threats is the minute he does, this becomes a referendum on Biden, not a referendum on Trump.
00:52:54.000 So Biden's smart enough to know that, right?
00:52:56.000 He recognizes that.
00:52:57.000 And so instead, he's over here on the side saying, we need to deescalate.
00:53:00.000 Guys, we really need to deescalate.
00:53:02.000 He's gonna try, and with the media, turn this into a referendum on the Republicans being mean to Merrick Garland in 2016, which no one cares about or remembers.
00:53:10.000 I mean, seriously, the number of people in America who are like deeply mourning for Merrick Garland.
00:53:14.000 I remember his name.
00:53:15.000 Very few other Americans do.
00:53:17.000 But he's going to try and turn this into Trump being not normal.
00:53:20.000 That's a very difficult pitch.
00:53:21.000 What he really has to protect himself from here is the left flank of his party, which is now the mainstream flank of his party.
00:53:26.000 We are beginning to see the conflict break out into the open between the Kamala Harris wing of the party and the Joe Biden wing of the party.
00:53:32.000 Remember, if Trump nominates somebody, which he will, and if that person has hearings, which they will, Kamala Harris is going to be there trying to slander that Supreme Court nominee in the same way she tried to slander Brett Kavanaugh.
00:53:41.000 That's going to be real bad for Biden.
00:53:43.000 So Biden, for the first time, is looking kind of vulnerable up there.
00:53:46.000 And you can tell he gave the speech yesterday in which you can tell he doesn't know which way to go.
00:53:49.000 He's kind of like a trapped rabbit here.
00:53:51.000 Here is Joe Biden yesterday.
00:53:54.000 Anger and more anger.
00:53:56.000 Sorrow and frustration is the way things are in this country now politically.
00:54:01.000 That's the cycle that Republican senators will continue to perpetuate if they go down this dangerous path that they put us on.
00:54:10.000 We need to deescalate, not escalate.
00:54:15.000 So I appeal to those few Senate Republicans, the handful who really will decide what happens.
00:54:23.000 Please follow your conscience.
00:54:26.000 Okay, so everybody needs to de-escalate by doing exactly what we want, because if we don't de-escalate, then we're going to blow everything up.
00:54:31.000 Here's what Joe Biden could do, right?
00:54:33.000 And he won't.
00:54:33.000 Here's what Joe Biden could do.
00:54:35.000 What Joe Biden could do is he could, right now, say to Mitch McConnell, here's the deal.
00:54:41.000 I pledge, I pledge, right?
00:54:43.000 In public writing, and he would have to give some sort of guarantee that makes some sense.
00:54:47.000 I pledge we will not pack the court.
00:54:49.000 We will not do any of the world-breaking things I'm talking about.
00:54:53.000 We will not kill the filibuster.
00:54:54.000 We will not add states.
00:54:55.000 We won't do any of that if you hold the seat open.
00:54:58.000 Joe Biden can't do that, though.
00:54:59.000 See, that'd be an easy giveaway for him, but he can't do that because his own party will kill him for doing that.
00:55:04.000 Remember, they were talking about this stuff before the seat opened, which means, as Josh Holmes, former press secretary for Mitch McConnell, said, they already shot the hostage.
00:55:14.000 They already made the threat.
00:55:15.000 It's too late.
00:55:16.000 There is no trust that can be built on the back of Joe Biden.
00:55:19.000 Nobody's going to trust that even if Joe Biden guarantees personally that they're not going to do any of these things, that they won't do any of those things regardless of whether the Republicans fill the seat.
00:55:28.000 There is no stepping back from the brink here.
00:55:29.000 It's not a thing that is going to happen.
00:55:32.000 Republicans must, morally speaking, move forward.
00:55:35.000 That's putting aside all of the impact that a Supreme Court justice will do, including, you know, again, I'm not a person who believes deeply in the generalized power of the Supreme Court.
00:55:44.000 I think they tend to more green light trends than they do actually stand up for the Constitution.
00:55:48.000 But there will be edge cases where the Supreme Court makes a difference and preventing the left from gaining complete footholds in the Supreme Court.
00:55:54.000 That is a real thing.
00:55:55.000 And I'm more interested in having another person on the Supreme Court to not be wild leftist than I am, you know, suggesting faith in the Supreme Court to implement the actual constitutional principle. With all of that said, Joe Biden has a problem here.
00:56:09.000 His problem is very obvious.
00:56:10.000 He can't appear radical.
00:56:11.000 His party is now threatening extremely radical things.
00:56:14.000 And Republicans know this, which is why the two people who they are talking about nominating are Amy Coney Barrett, on the one hand, and a woman named Barbara Lagoa, on the other.
00:56:21.000 So Amy Coney Barrett is from Indiana.
00:56:23.000 She's a Catholic.
00:56:25.000 On a personal level, it's anti-abortion, but again, that makes no sense.
00:56:28.000 That makes no difference in terms of her constitutional jurisprudence.
00:56:32.000 She has seven children.
00:56:34.000 She happens to be a very attractive candidate.
00:56:37.000 Like, she's very camera-friendly.
00:56:39.000 Trump first nominated her to the U.S.
00:56:40.000 Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit in 2017.
00:56:43.000 She'd previously taught at University of Notre Dame for 15 years, so she had no previous judicial record to scrutinize.
00:56:49.000 Barrett wasn't a total novice to the judicial system.
00:56:51.000 She clerked for Justice Scalia.
00:56:54.000 During her confirmation hearings, she said she would follow all Supreme Court precedent without fail and would regard Roe vs. Wade as binding precedent Democrats then went completely anti-religious on Barrett.
00:57:06.000 They quoted her saying that a legal career is but a means to an end, and that end is building the kingdom of God.
00:57:12.000 Well, if you've ever met a religious human being, every single religious person believes that whatever their career is, is a means toward serving God.
00:57:18.000 That is what it means to be a religious person.
00:57:19.000 That doesn't mean that she's going to start writing New Testament segments into Supreme Court decisions.
00:57:25.000 That's very, very silly.
00:57:26.000 It is true that in the past she has written, she doesn't believe the Supreme Court is bound to bad precedent.
00:57:30.000 So she is going to be a candidate.
00:57:32.000 It will be difficult for Democrats to attack without looking petty and ridiculous.
00:57:35.000 The other candidate who they've been looking at is Barbara Lagoa.
00:57:38.000 So she's quickly risen to the top of the list.
00:57:40.000 That is because she's a Cuban-American in Florida, which of course is a swing state.
00:57:46.000 Her record is not particularly clear because she doesn't have a long record of judicial decisions.
00:57:50.000 Now, listen, I tend to be with Josh Hawley here.
00:57:51.000 I think every judicial nominee should be asked, point blank, are you going to overrule Roe?
00:57:55.000 If the answer is no, you shouldn't be nominated.
00:57:58.000 Democrats do this.
00:57:58.000 I don't see why Republicans should not, except they don't believe they'll be able to get away with it.
00:58:03.000 But Barbara Lagoa has been now elevated to the top of the stack.
00:58:09.000 Her 14-year tenure as a state and federal judge presents Democrats with opportunities to scrutinize her record, says the Washington Post.
00:58:15.000 So she conferred this month in a federal appeals court ruling that is expected to keep 85,000 felons registered to vote in Florida from casting ballots.
00:58:23.000 She repeatedly sided with business when she was on the Florida High Court.
00:58:25.000 She was nominated by Ron DeSantis.
00:58:29.000 And she has said that she would faithfully apply precedence when it came to Roe versus Wade.
00:58:34.000 People who know her say that she is very pro-life, which again doesn't mean Anything when it comes to jurisprudence.
00:58:40.000 It just means that she's personally pro-life.
00:58:41.000 She's a mother of three, including a pair of twins.
00:58:43.000 Apparently, she is quiet and collegial with shrewd political instincts.
00:58:47.000 She was also a member of the pro bono legal team representing the Miami relatives of Elian Gonzalez, the Cuban boy whose mother drowned while trying to escape with him to the United States and who was turned over to his father in Cuba by the Clinton administration.
00:59:00.000 So Lagoa is obviously very friendly with the Federalist Society.
00:59:05.000 Her husband, Paul Huck, is a godfather of the Federalist Society in Miami, apparently.
00:59:10.000 So these are the two kind of top nominees.
00:59:12.000 Both of them would be difficult for Democrats to attack.
00:59:15.000 Joe Biden has to know this.
00:59:17.000 It's why Joe Biden has to be very concerned about the Democratic Party going too far here.
00:59:22.000 He really should be.
00:59:23.000 It's a danger to his election.
00:59:24.000 And frankly, it's a danger to the system, because if the Democrats go too far, you are going to start to see the country break up.
00:59:28.000 You're going to see states start to say the federal government has lost all legitimacy.
00:59:32.000 Democrats got to be real careful here.
00:59:33.000 A lot more careful than Republicans in merely fulfilling what everybody else figured, which is if Trump appoints a replacement and the Republicans hold the Senate, they get to confirm him.
00:59:43.000 Alrighty, we'll be back here later today with two additional hours of content.
00:59:46.000 A lot I didn't get to, including the ridiculousness of the Emmys, plus Nicole Hannah-Jones deleting her entire Twitter history.
00:59:53.000 The 1619 Project lady who says we can't whitewash history completely whitewashed her own Twitter history over the weekend.
00:59:58.000 We'll talk about that a little bit later on.
00:59:59.000 Otherwise, we'll see you here tomorrow.
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