The Ben Shapiro Show - April 18, 2018


Thank You, Barbara Bush | Ep. 520


Episode Stats

Length

48 minutes

Words per Minute

192.10257

Word Count

9,365

Sentence Count

596

Misogynist Sentences

24

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

Former first lady Barbara Bush passes away, Justice Ginsburg rules against President Trump, and James Comey continues to make his pathetic rounds. This is the Ben Shapiro Show, where we have a lot to get to, including Stormy Daniels on The View, and a lot of news breaking, but I want to begin today by saying thank you to our sponsors over at MyPatriotSupply. They ensure that you and your family are safe in the event of an emergency, and that you are prepared for the next time an emergency hits and you're the person who is prepared. That's Preparedwithben.com. That's PrepareWithben. And, as always, we have our Hot Water, FMK, and our FMK-FMK. We hope you enjoy the show, and remember Barbara Bush, who was a great woman and a wonderful mother. Rest In Paradise, Barbara and George H.W. Bush. - Our Sincerely, Ben Shapiro - The Ben Shapiro Podcast is a production of Native Creative Podcasts, Inc. and is dedicated to the Native Creative Movement. Our mission is to create a space for Native Creative Peoples to connect and connect with Native people through food, music, and community through food and conversation, and ultimately, through the power and conversation. We make a difference in the creation of food and culture through our food, providing access to food, and connection through our products, services, and products, everywhere and everywhere else in the world. This podcast is for everyone who needs it. Thank you for listening, thank you for being kind and support you can be a supporter of a good day, no matter where you can access it, and you can help it. Thank you, thanks for listening and support it, it helps us move it, through a better day, a chance to help us can help us, more of it, or it helps it, a better chance to connect more of a day, or a better place, a day like that chance, a more of something like that, a good night, a greater day, etc., etc., a day more of someone like it, etc. etc. etc. Thanks, bye, bye bye, MRS. -- BONUS CONTENT: BABY SONGS, ENCHIEVEMENTS, EN CHEERIE, MURDERED, RALLYING IN A GOOD DOG DAY, KELLY AND A LITTLE MODE?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Former First Lady Barbara Bush passes away, Justice Gorsuch actually rules against President Trump, and James Comey continues to make his pathetic rounds.
00:00:07.000 This is the Ben Shapiro Show.
00:00:13.000 So we have a lot to get to today, including Stormy Daniels on The View yesterday.
00:00:17.000 Just a lot of news breaking.
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00:01:49.000 Okay, so the big news yesterday, obviously, was the death of Barbara Bush.
00:01:53.000 So Barbara Bush, the wife to one president and the mother of another.
00:01:57.000 A couple of things are worth noting right off the bat.
00:01:59.000 First of all, if you look at all the obituaries, it says that Barbara Bush was most famous, obviously, for, as I say, being the wife of one president and the mother of another.
00:02:17.000 There's this weird idea that goes around in feminist circles that being a wife and being a mother is somehow degrading to women.
00:02:21.000 That somehow it is what you do, not in your relationship with others, but what you do in your career that matters most.
00:02:28.000 Well, for the vast majority of human beings, it is what you do in your family life and the kind of children that you raise that is going to be your final legacy on the world.
00:02:36.000 Barbara Bush said this herself in 1990.
00:02:38.000 She was speaking at Wellesley.
00:02:40.000 She was protesting in 1990, so this just shows how long these college protests have been going on.
00:02:44.000 But Barbara Bush, who was then First Lady of the United States, she talked about why family was valuable in life in 1990 at graduation.
00:02:52.000 So I want to offer a new legend.
00:02:55.000 The winner of the hoop race will be the first to realize her dream, not society's dreams, her own personal dream.
00:03:14.000 Who knows?
00:03:15.000 Somewhere out in this audience may even be someone who will one day follow in my footsteps and preside over the White House as the President's spouse, and I wish him well.
00:03:30.000 So, she's a person who definitely understood the value of family.
00:03:34.000 One of the charming clips that was going around yesterday, as well as a clip from 2011, George H.W.
00:03:38.000 Bush and Barbara were on the Today Show together, and they read, with their granddaughter actually, and George W. Bush's daughter, and they read, George H.W.
00:03:47.000 read some love letters that he'd written to Barbara, and you can sort of see their relationship encapsulated in this short clip.
00:03:54.000 December 12th.
00:03:57.000 1943.
00:03:58.000 My Darling Bar.
00:04:00.000 This should be a very easy letter to write.
00:04:02.000 My grandparents have been writing each other love letters for more than 60 years.
00:04:07.000 I love you precious with all my heart and to know that you love me means my life.
00:04:13.000 6, 1994, for Barbara Pierce from GHWB.
00:04:19.000 Will you marry me?
00:04:20.000 Oops, I forgot, you did that 49 years ago today.
00:04:24.000 I was very happy on that day in 1945, but I'm even happier today.
00:04:29.000 You give me joy that few men know.
00:04:32.000 I've climbed perhaps the highest mountain in the world, but even that cannot hold a candle to being Barbara's husband.
00:04:39.000 Mom used to tell me, now, George, don't walk ahead.
00:04:44.000 You never listen to your mother.
00:04:47.000 Little did I know I was only trying to keep up with Barb Pierce from Onondaga Street in Rye, New York.
00:04:58.000 I love you.
00:04:59.000 I love you, too.
00:05:00.000 No, Gimpy, why are we such criers?
00:05:03.000 You know what?
00:05:04.000 You could be Speaker of the House.
00:05:06.000 Okay, so, Barbara Bush, she was definitely a pistol.
00:05:09.000 There's a good piece in the New York Times by Christopher Buckley, who is a novelist and speechwriter for VPHW from 81 to 83, and he talks about exactly who Barbara Bush was.
00:05:20.000 He said that he learned a couple of lessons from her.
00:05:22.000 He said,
00:05:28.000 Avant la lettre.
00:05:45.000 Thanks, Mom.
00:05:46.000 If she was in Mrs. No-Nonsense, she also had a playful, even girlish side to her.
00:05:50.000 On one occasion, I was alone in a freight elevator with Mr. and Mrs. Bush and their Secret Service detail when it got stuck between floors.
00:05:55.000 Stuck elevators are viewed grimly by the Secret Service.
00:05:57.000 The atmosphere quickly elevated to condition red, with hands reaching for the holstered Glock 9s, orders barked into wrist mics, and all the rest.
00:06:03.000 The Bushes were blithe.
00:06:04.000 I was standing behind them.
00:06:05.000 Mr. Bush's fingers reached for Mrs. Bush's derriere and gave it a pinch.
00:06:08.000 She turned to him and grinned like an 18-year-old.
00:06:09.000 Hiya, fella, she said, so I can claim to have witnessed a primal scene between Mom and Dad Bush.
00:06:13.000 So, just, you know, she was apparently a really good woman by virtually all accounts, and there were tributes that came in from the Clintons, there were tributes that came in from the Obamas, and class all across the aisle, except, of course, for the far left.
00:06:28.000 The far left found an excuse to be upset about Barbara Bush.
00:06:32.000 So, Randa Jarrar, who is a professor at Fresno State and obviously a delightful human being,
00:06:36.000 She tweeted out, So, you can always count on Twitter to provide you some of the best in American life.
00:06:48.000 But this does demonstrate that there is a primal hatred that exists on both sides of the aisle, unfortunately, with regard to some of these figures, because
00:06:56.000 The reality is that if people can't get beyond their own politics to see the personal side of people like Barbara Bush, who is not a political figure, right?
00:07:02.000 I mean, Barbara Bush is the kind of woman who when she was the first lady in 1989, it was right after the election, there was a lot of talk about how babies with AIDS, people were afraid that if they held the baby with AIDS or if the baby with AIDS spit up on them that they would actually get AIDS.
00:07:17.000 Barbara Bush
00:07:18.000 We're good to go.
00:07:44.000 You know, that may be the extent to which our politics have gone awry.
00:07:47.000 Now, speaking of our politics going awry, the story of the day yesterday continued to be the Stormy Daniels fallout, the Michael Cohen fallout, and all of it continues to be very weird and very bizarre.
00:07:59.000 We're obviously living in a reality show simulation.
00:08:01.000 The former
00:08:04.000 Leading presidential candidate for the Democrats for a certain period of time, Bernie Sanders, actually tweeted out today that he wants Cardi B to decide Social Security policy.
00:08:13.000 See, I was joking when I said I thought that Cardi B's tax policy was great, because I don't think Cardi B knows all that much about tax policy.
00:08:18.000 Bernie Sanders apparently was not joking.
00:08:19.000 That just shows you how crazy things have gotten.
00:08:21.000 Well, now Stormy Daniels was appearing on The View.
00:08:24.000 And if you don't believe that so much of our controversy, so much of the hatred that we see in America's public life is now driven by the TV theatrics of our political actors,
00:08:33.000 All you have to do is watch TV for five minutes and be disabused of this.
00:08:35.000 So Stormy Daniels, who is a self-aggrandizing porn star who had sex with a married man in 2006, earned $130,000 out of it right before the election, and then decided to forego the $130,000.
00:08:46.000 She's giving it to Planned Parenthood, which is obviously a very classy move.
00:08:50.000 And she instead wants to make a fortune by speaking openly about her affair with Donald Trump, which lasted apparently a grand total of one night.
00:08:58.000 Well, now she's on The View, and on The View, she's explaining that she is not in it for the money, that she is not in it for the glory.
00:09:05.000 She is obviously in it for both the money and the glory.
00:09:07.000 And listen, she's a free person in the United States.
00:09:09.000 She can do whatever she pleases, but that doesn't mean that we have to put aside our critical thinking skills.
00:09:13.000 She showed up with her lawyer, Michael Avenetti, at the Michael Cohn hearing the other day in New York.
00:09:17.000 There's no reason for her to be there.
00:09:19.000 She showed up there because she wants to stay in the news.
00:09:21.000 And she's very good at staying in the news.
00:09:23.000 And the news are very good about keeping her in the news.
00:09:25.000 So here was Michael Avenatti explaining that this was not a publicity stunt and Stormy Daniels saying this was not a publicity stunt to show up in court to an event that had nothing to do with her.
00:09:34.000 I want to address the first part and I'm going to let her address the second part.
00:09:37.000 As it relates to us having nothing to do with the case, I mean, that's just not accurate.
00:09:41.000 On Friday, Judge Wood, who I know, granted me access to that case, stated that she would hear from me as to any issue that I wanted to
00:09:49.000 We're good to go!
00:10:20.000 You won't hear me say it.
00:10:21.000 I haven't promoted that name.
00:10:23.000 I think it's awful.
00:10:24.000 You think the name's awful?
00:10:27.000 Yeah, I don't like to use it.
00:10:28.000 I think it's cheesy and a play on someone else's idea and I try not to do that.
00:10:32.000 A strip club owner in the Carolinas came up with it and everyone else has latched onto it.
00:10:38.000 As far as the tour, yes, I've gotten more bookings than usual, but I'm doing the job that I've been doing for the last almost 20 years.
00:10:45.000 Yes, there's a lot of publicity, but I didn't do it for that because this isn't what I want to be known for.
00:10:50.000 As a matter of fact, I hid for quite a while, and it's overwhelming and intimidating.
00:10:56.000 Okay, I'm sorry.
00:10:56.000 I'm sorry.
00:10:57.000 Like, I'm sorry.
00:10:58.000 The media portraying Stormy Daniels as some sort of great heroine who's coming out here because she just wants the truth told.
00:11:04.000 This isn't what she wants to be known for.
00:11:06.000 Yes, I'm sure she wants to be known for The Witches of Brestwick.
00:11:08.000 That's what she wants to be known for, right?
00:11:09.000 What she really wants to be known for is stripping, but not on the Make America Horny Again tour, which is what the name of her tour is.
00:11:14.000 That's the name that she doesn't want to mention there.
00:11:16.000 And she feels really bad about that because, I mean, that's humiliating.
00:11:19.000 It's not humiliating to strip.
00:11:22.000 Naked, in front of a bunch of men, after talking about having an affair with the President of the United States.
00:11:26.000 That's not humiliating.
00:11:27.000 It's really the name of the tour.
00:11:28.000 That's really where you gotta draw the line.
00:11:30.000 I mean, if you're gonna talk about class, that's really where you gotta draw the line.
00:11:32.000 It's not, you know, the being a pornographic actress thing that's humiliating in any way.
00:11:36.000 It really is the fact that you're now speaking on The View, fully dressed, about all this stuff.
00:11:41.000 That's not what you wanna be remembered for.
00:11:42.000 You definitely wanna be remembered for those lesbian porn scenes.
00:11:46.000 That's definitely the thing that's gonna go on the epitaph right there.
00:11:48.000 Like, what in the world?
00:11:50.000 And we're supposed to believe that our politics are not broken in any significant way?
00:11:55.000 I'm going to show you more of our politics being broken in just a second, because this interview on The View really was quite astonishing.
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00:13:11.000 Speaking of the craziness of Stormy Daniels on The View, everybody's favorite portion of television, of course, yesterday, was the reality TV show reveal of the likeness of the person who allegedly threatened Stormy Daniels.
00:13:22.000 So I do love that Stormy Daniels says in this interview she tried to stay silent about this for a long time.
00:13:26.000 Well, no, actually, she tried to sell the story to In Touch magazine, and then she tried to sell the story to National Enquirer, and then she sold the story to Trump, and now she's selling the story to the media.
00:13:34.000 So that's not good at being quiet about things, just last I checked.
00:13:38.000 But she says in 2011, after In Touch
00:13:40.000 We're good.
00:14:03.000 Reveal on The View is just so ridiculous.
00:14:05.000 I'm sorry.
00:14:06.000 If this were something that really mattered to Stormy Daniels, I assume she would make a police report of some sort.
00:14:11.000 I assume that she would actually turn in this photograph to the police.
00:14:14.000 I assume that she would take it a little more seriously than to go on The View to reveal it.
00:14:18.000 Now, listen, I'm not ripping on The View.
00:14:19.000 I desperately want to appear on The View.
00:14:20.000 But that said, this does not exactly pass the smell test in terms of non-publicity-seeking behavior from Stormy Daniels.
00:14:27.000 So, Normie, you recently sat down with a forensic artist, a very well-known one, who created a sketch of the alleged suspect based on your memory from that day, and now you're ready to reveal that sketch for the first time.
00:14:40.000 Can we take a look at that with you?
00:14:41.000 Sure.
00:14:44.000 Oh.
00:14:44.000 Here you go.
00:14:46.000 And to your recollection, is that the person that threatened you?
00:14:49.000 Absolutely.
00:14:50.000 Looks exactly like that person?
00:14:52.000 Wow.
00:14:52.000 To your recollection, is it the most generic-looking photograph you have ever seen of any human being ever?
00:14:57.000 It looks like every male star of the last 30 years in Hollywood?
00:15:00.000 Wow.
00:15:01.000 Thanks, Stormy, for that.
00:15:02.000 You've really cleared it up.
00:15:03.000 I'm sure that all the information will certainly be forthcoming, although I have my own suspicions that it was Tom Brady fresh off the flight gate.
00:15:09.000 He had to do something to get his name out of the headlines, and so he decided to go and threaten Stormy Daniels in 2011, wearing the boy band haircut.
00:15:16.000 Just really strong stuff from Stormy Daniels there.
00:15:18.000 And the media taking all this stuff seriously is truly incredible, but of course,
00:15:22.000 That's not the only stuff they're taking very, very seriously.
00:15:24.000 They are also taking very seriously, and continuing to do so, all of the information about Michael Cohen.
00:15:30.000 So Michael Cohen, of course, is President Trump's lawyer.
00:15:33.000 And Michael Cohen was dragged into court by—well, actually, he dragged the FBI into court because he is suing for access to all the materials that they seized from his offices.
00:15:43.000 There's a lot of speculation about what exactly is in those materials, what exactly Michael Cohen has to worry about, but the two big headlines to come out of this are that Michael Cohen is in serious legal jeopardy, which could be trouble for Trump, and two, that one of Michael Cohen's clients was, of course, the talk show host on Fox News, Sean Hannity, right, with whom I'm friendly.
00:16:01.000 Michael Avenetti, who is the lawyer for Stormy Daniels, again on The View, he says that he has no fear that Michael Cohen will eventually flip on Trump and Trump will be taken down by the great and brave Stormy Daniels.
00:16:11.000 Here he is actually on MSNBC, Avenetti, talking.
00:16:13.000 I mean, the guy just must have, he must live at these TV studios as often as he's appearing on TV.
00:16:18.000 You think Michael Cohen's wife is going to advise him to take a 20-year bullet for the president?
00:16:23.000 I doubt it.
00:16:23.000 What about his children?
00:16:24.000 What about his children?
00:16:25.000 I mean, listen, Donny Deutch knows Michael Cohen, and we know other people that know Michael Cohen.
00:16:31.000 He loves his kids.
00:16:33.000 He loves his family.
00:16:34.000 And he loves his kids more than he loves Donald Trump's.
00:16:37.000 I understand the loyalty and all that other stuff.
00:16:40.000 But that only goes so far.
00:16:41.000 That only goes so far when your own
00:16:43.000 Children are saying, Dad, what's going on?
00:16:45.000 It's either Trump or not watch your kids grow up.
00:16:48.000 The level of speculation that is occurring right now on cable television is just astonishing.
00:16:52.000 I was watching CNN again at the gym yesterday, and I'm trying to remember whose show it was, but one of the shows was just, the entire hour was dedicated to speculation about the connection between Michael Cohen and Sean Hannity, which is cable news' other favorite topic.
00:17:05.000 They're fascinated with the idea that Sean Hannity had the same lawyer as the president.
00:17:08.000 Well, is that really a giant shock?
00:17:10.000 That Sean Hannity is friendly with the lawyer for the president.
00:17:13.000 Sean Hannity is probably calling Trump every night.
00:17:15.000 In fact, I have pretty good information that he does talk to President Trump on a very frequent basis.
00:17:18.000 The Washington Post reported the same thing today.
00:17:20.000 That's not any sort of surprise, and he's known Michael Cohen for years.
00:17:24.000 The only weird legal issue here is that Sean has alternatively claimed that Cohen was his lawyer and that Cohen was not his lawyer.
00:17:29.000 For purposes of confidentiality and privilege, that does make some difference, but
00:17:34.000 The newsers that are going crazy over this, the CNNs and MSNBCs that are going totally nuts over this, I'm just wondering what's so crazy about Hannity having the same lawyer as Trump?
00:17:43.000 Like, I assume that Hillary Clinton's lawyers represent a lot of members of the media because she probably is represented by mainstream law firms.
00:17:50.000 Is that the end of the world?
00:17:52.000 Half the people in the media worked in the Clinton administration.
00:17:54.000 Is that supposed to be some sort of great shock to anyone?
00:17:58.000 For example, you're seeing Chuck Todd over at NBC and MSNBC saying that he is stunned by Fox News' coverage of the fact that Sean Hannity was using Michael Cohen as his lawyer and covering Michael Cohen's fallout at the same time.
00:18:10.000 I'm just, I am stunned that Fox had no punitive response.
00:18:17.000 Not a, Sean Hannity must disclose every night.
00:18:20.000 Not a, he can't cover this story.
00:18:22.000 Not a, he's been suspended for a week.
00:18:25.000 Nothing.
00:18:26.000 Not a single thing.
00:18:27.000 They are saying, this is okay.
00:18:31.000 For anybody that works at Fox News.
00:18:32.000 Okay, literally, George Stephanopoulos, the chief of staff for Hillary Clinton, who wrote in his memoirs about crime with Hillary Clinton after President Clinton won in 1992, interviewed Hillary Clinton multiple times during the last campaign, and ABC News made no disclosure about that at the top of any of the shows, and he covered it as an objective journalist.
00:18:50.000 How has he magically changed into an objective journalist?
00:18:52.000 The answer is he wasn't.
00:18:53.000 It's just that the media don't care when it's a lefty who has close associations with members of the Democratic Party.
00:18:58.000 They care very deeply when a member of the media has close relationships with top members of the Republican Party.
00:19:03.000 Brian Stelter said some of the same stuff on CNN.
00:19:05.000 He said, if Rachel Maddow had been getting legal advice from Hillary's attorney, Sean Hannity would go crazy.
00:19:11.000 Let's imagine in a parallel universe where Hillary Clinton's president, Rachel Maddow, was discovered to have been getting secret legal advice from a Clinton lawyer.
00:19:19.000 Never mind the idea that that Clinton lawyer would have been raided and would have been under investigation.
00:19:23.000 If Maddow was under the microscope like that, Hannity would be, he would be ripping, he would be going wild with it.
00:19:30.000 He would be talking about it non-stop.
00:19:32.000 And I think what is so frustrating to most Americans, when these partisan wars, is the lack of consistency.
00:19:39.000 That Hannity would erupt if it were the other side.
00:19:42.000 Okay, so I agree on the lack of consistency point.
00:19:44.000 My only question is why is it that Brian Stelter is willing to ignore the lack of consistency on his own side of the aisle?
00:19:49.000 I like Brian, but I'm just wondering why is it that all these people on the left side of the aisle are willing to completely overlook the fact that half of the media are staffed by people who I'm sure share lawyers with Hillary Clinton and were probably interviewing her at the same time.
00:20:00.000 They don't seem to care about any of that, right?
00:20:01.000 I mean, the head of CBS News was the brother of Ben Rhodes, who was the national security advisor under President Obama.
00:20:07.000 You know, whether or not that makes a difference in news coverage is questionable, but it is something that ought to be displayed on a regular basis.
00:20:14.000 These close relationships that are happening in the media all the time.
00:20:17.000 I'm just amazed that the media suddenly latch onto all of this, except they're not really amazed.
00:20:20.000 They don't like Sean Hannity very much, and obviously they don't like President Trump very much.
00:20:24.000 Now, speaking of not liking President Trump, James Comey continues to do his
00:20:28.000 We're good.
00:20:49.000 Dude, you're the one who literally went and wrote a book about how much you don't like Trump.
00:20:54.000 Trump wasn't saying a lot of stuff about you until you decided to come back with the book.
00:20:57.000 Now, I'm not really pleased with how Trump has handled the whole James Comey debacle.
00:21:01.000 I didn't think that it was greatly handled in the first place.
00:21:04.000 For James Comey to be walking around saying that Donald Trump is the scorned lover in this particular relationship seems to be ignorant of things like mirrors and self-awareness.
00:21:14.000 It's pretty incredible.
00:21:16.000 And speaking of lack of self-awareness, watch as Eric Holder tries to defend James Comey from the predations of Donald Trump.
00:21:22.000 He says that Donald Trump does not believe in the rule of law.
00:21:24.000 Remember, this is the attorney general who is held in contempt of Congress.
00:21:28.000 For failing to turn over records.
00:21:29.000 This is the guy who was responsible for the Fast and Furious scandal.
00:21:32.000 This is the guy who described himself as the President of the United States' wingman, as opposed to, you know, a law enforcement officer, the chief law enforcement officer of the country, and he's complaining about Donald Trump not believing in the rule of law, and the media are just sitting there taking this, and then people wonder why people are not taking the media seriously.
00:21:48.000 This is why, right here.
00:21:50.000 How do you make sense of those two different ways the president talks about law and order?
00:21:53.000 Well, he believes in situational law and order.
00:21:56.000 And there is no way that I think you can resolve the tension that you have just described.
00:22:02.000 He is not a believer at base in the rule of law.
00:22:07.000 He wants to make sure that those people who he likes, the people who support him, are treated in one way, and those other people, whoever those other people are, are treated in a different way.
00:22:18.000 Okay, so I love that Eric Holder is sitting here saying this with a straight face.
00:22:22.000 That Donald Trump, you know, he wants to make sure that only his allies are treated fairly, but everybody else is treated unfairly.
00:22:27.000 You were the Attorney General under President Obama who utilized the IRS, or at least his IRS, went after conservative nonprofits.
00:22:35.000 You were the Attorney General during Fast and Furious.
00:22:38.000 You were the Attorney General during the HHS scandal.
00:22:40.000 There were a dozen scandals that happened under Eric Holder, and Eric Holder was simultaneously describing himself as Barack Obama's wingman, and now he says that Donald Trump is inconsistent about the use of law enforcement?
00:22:51.000 It's really incredible.
00:22:52.000 Speaking of inconsistent about the use of law enforcement, James Comey, you know, again, the guy with the higher loyalty, he comes out and he says that he has no opinion on disciplining Andrew McCabe.
00:23:00.000 Andrew McCabe, of course, was deputy director of the FBI when James Comey was there.
00:23:03.000 And now it turns out that Andrew McCabe repeatedly lied to the FBI.
00:23:07.000 He repeatedly lied over and over.
00:23:08.000 And that's why he was fired.
00:23:10.000 And now James Comey says, well, I have no opinion on prosecuting Andrew McCabe.
00:23:13.000 I really have nothing to say about that.
00:23:15.000 So he didn't deserve the discipline he got, Andrew McCabe?
00:23:17.000 No, I think the process... I don't have a view on what the ultimate discipline should have been.
00:23:21.000 But this is the system working.
00:23:23.000 This is the Justice Department holding accountable its employees to the truth.
00:23:27.000 So he has no opinion on what should happen to Andrew McCabe.
00:23:29.000 Amazing.
00:23:30.000 He had an opinion on what should happen to Hillary Clinton.
00:23:31.000 He has opinions on what should happen to President Trump.
00:23:34.000 But he has no opinion on what should happen to Andrew McCabe, the guy who worked underneath him and who was simultaneously leaking materials to the media and pretending that somebody else inside the FBI was performing those leaks.
00:23:45.000 The inspector general has a full report on Andrew McCabe, okay, and what they found is that McCabe lacked candor on multiple occasions and violated FBI policy when he authorized the disclosure of sensitive investigative information to a reporter.
00:23:58.000 And James Comey has no opinion on any of this.
00:24:00.000 But don't worry, the only people who are engaging in selective use of law enforcement are members of the Trump administration.
00:24:05.000 And look how the media propped Comey up, right?
00:24:07.000 Stephen Colbert has on James Comey last night.
00:24:10.000 Comey actually raised Colbert's ratings, which is not a shock, because Colbert's ratings have been very up and down.
00:24:15.000 And they drank together, I mean, Comey and Colbert, because there was that story in Comey's book about how Comey, after being fired, drank red wine from a paper cup on a plane on the way home.
00:24:24.000 If it felt like you were working for a mob boss, were you surprised that you got whacked?
00:24:27.000 Because that's what they knew.
00:24:49.000 I actually was quite surprised, because I thought, I'm leading the Russia investigation.
00:24:54.000 Even though our relationship was becoming strained, there's no way I'm going to get fired or whacked.
00:25:00.000 Why?
00:25:00.000 Why wouldn't you get fired?
00:25:01.000 Because that would be a crazy thing to do.
00:25:02.000 Why would you fire the FBI director who's leading the Russia investigation?
00:25:08.000 Because you're leading the Russia investigation.
00:25:12.000 I don't know if you've dealt with mob bosses before, but they don't like to be investigated.
00:25:16.000 Okay, so Stephen Colbert, of course, is making a point that he doesn't know that he's making, which is, if James Comey really thought all these terrible things about Trump, why didn't he quit the first day?
00:25:23.000 Why didn't he just quit and say, the president asked me for a loyalty oath, I wasn't willing to give him a loyalty oath, and I'm not going to serve under that president.
00:25:29.000 But, of course, James Comey is there in his...
00:25:32.000 I don't even know what he's wearing.
00:25:33.000 I mean, he's wearing a black shirt and a gray jacket that makes him look like something straight out of a 50s lounge.
00:25:39.000 And Stephen Colbert is talking with him, of course, in the most glowing terms about President Trump.
00:25:43.000 All of this stuff is so off-putting.
00:25:45.000 James Comey has nothing new to tell.
00:25:46.000 We know his story, OK?
00:25:47.000 And his story is what his story is.
00:25:50.000 He's so self-aggrandizing that I think he's actually undercutting his own cause.
00:25:53.000 James Comey, again, former FBI director, yesterday he said that he imitated LeBron James on leadership.
00:25:58.000 No, this isn't a real... This is just astonishing.
00:26:01.000 This isn't him pandering in any way.
00:26:03.000 This is what he says.
00:26:03.000 I'm sure that he just goes around talking about LeBron James on leadership.
00:26:06.000 This is what James Comey does.
00:26:07.000 I admire LeBron James and he's probably about to find out I used to talk about him all over the FBI and say he illustrates what the endless pursuit of excellence looks like.
00:26:18.000 But every offseason I've read he tries to find a part of his game to make better, which is crazy because he's already better than everybody else.
00:26:24.000 It's because he measures himself not against the others but against himself.
00:26:29.000 So I used to say inside the FBI, look, this is a great organization, but it's not good enough.
00:26:33.000 It can't ever be good enough.
00:26:34.000 We have to find parts of our game to make better.
00:26:38.000 Look at LeBron James.
00:26:39.000 He is insufferable.
00:26:42.000 I'm sorry, he's just insufferable.
00:26:43.000 There's no way to watch James Comey and not think that he's actually doing damage to the anti-Trump cause by being this insufferably douche-ish.
00:26:50.000 I mean, it's just awful.
00:26:52.000 That's not even a word, but I've coined it for James Comey.
00:26:54.000 My goodness gracious.
00:26:56.000 President Trump doesn't help himself, by the way, when he fires back on this.
00:26:59.000 He should just let James Comey hang out there in the breeze.
00:27:01.000 I mean, he really should just let James Comey, all six foot nine of him, say silly things and be looked at as silly.
00:27:06.000 But President Trump can't help himself, so he tweets out, Slippery James Comey, the worst FBI director in history, was not fired because of the phony Russia investigation where, by the way, there was no collusion except by the Dems.
00:27:16.000 You know, Mr. President, you literally said on national television to Lester Holt that you fired him because of the Russia investigation.
00:27:22.000 Like, you literally said that.
00:27:23.000 That's the only reason there's a special counsel right now.
00:27:26.000 The revisionist history from President Trump is not helpful here.
00:27:28.000 So James Comey may have been a terrible FBI director.
00:27:30.000 I think that he was.
00:27:31.000 James Comey may be a self-aggrandizing douche.
00:27:34.000 I think that he is.
00:27:36.000 President Trump made a big mistake when he fired James Comey and then went on national television to brag about it, saying that the real reason he fired James Comey is because Comey wouldn't come out and say that he was innocent in the Russia investigation.
00:27:47.000 That forced Rod Rosenstein, the guy who wrote the letter that provided the impetus for firing James Comey, that forced Rosenstein to recuse himself and appoint Robert Mueller.
00:27:55.000 There would be no Robert Mueller today if it were not for President Trump firing James Comey and then talking about it on national television.
00:28:01.000 So him denying it now is just silly.
00:28:03.000 Again, the president should be above these things.
00:28:04.000 He should just let it all play out.
00:28:06.000 Everyone can see this stuff, OK?
00:28:07.000 I have enough faith in the American people that they can look at the Stormy Daniels stuff and they can look at her revealing ridiculous mock-ups of generic-looking white men who threatened her in a parking lot and say, all of this seems like reality TV show nonsense.
00:28:20.000 The president apparently doesn't have that faith, or he can't control himself, so he tweeted out about Stormy Daniels.
00:28:25.000 He said that this was a con job as well.
00:28:27.000 He said, quote, Again, you know, for fake news media for fools, all of that is capitalized, which is weird.
00:28:39.000 But, you know, why is the president doing this?
00:28:41.000 I don't think it serves his purpose.
00:28:42.000 I think that not only does it not serve his purpose, it's counterproductive in a very serious way, because
00:28:47.000 What he really should be saying—he shouldn't be saying anything.
00:28:49.000 But if his people are saying anything, it should be, well, if that actually happened, then the president had no knowledge of any of that.
00:28:55.000 When he just says that this is a non-existent man, when he comes out and says this never happened, now he's in a food fight with a former porn star he had sex with.
00:29:02.000 And none of this is good for the president.
00:29:04.000 None of this is good for the president's agenda.
00:29:06.000 Now, speaking of not great for the president's agenda, yesterday,
00:29:10.000 There were a couple of dings in the White House.
00:29:13.000 One of those dings came courtesy of Justice Gorsuch.
00:29:15.000 So, there's been a lot of talk, of course, about Justice Gorsuch and Justice Gorsuch being President Trump's main victory as President of the United States.
00:29:24.000 There's a lot of truth to that.
00:29:25.000 I think Justice Gorsuch has been terrific thus far.
00:29:27.000 Well, he ruled on a case yesterday and a lot of folks were very angry at him.
00:29:30.000 They were angry at him because he sided with the court's liberals on a case with regard to the mandatory
00:29:37.000 Deportation of a legal immigrant.
00:29:40.000 So the case was called Sessions v. DiMaia and involved a legal immigrant who came to the United States years ago.
00:29:44.000 As an adult, this guy was twice convicted of burglary.
00:29:46.000 Federal law permits deportation of legal immigrants if they are convicted of an aggravated felony, one type of which is a crime of violence.
00:29:53.000 The Obama and Trump administrations both claim this, according to Ala Pundit over at Hot Air, that burglary can be categorized as a crime of violence because of the way the statute is worded.
00:30:00.000 Any crime, which by its nature involves a substantial risk that physical force against the person or property of another may be used in the course of committing the offense, is a crime of violence whether or not physical force was actually used.
00:30:11.000 In deciding whether a crime by its nature is a crime of violence, courts are supposed to look at what the ordinary case involving that crime might look like.
00:30:17.000 So the courts for liberals thought that this was unconstitutionally vague.
00:30:21.000 This did not make clear when you could deport somebody and when you could not deport somebody.
00:30:24.000 And Gorsuch concurred.
00:30:25.000 He said that the Congress has to do a better job of writing its legislation.
00:30:28.000 Right, here's what he wrote.
00:30:29.000 He wrote,
00:30:53.000 So this does not sound like a wildly liberal decision from Justice Gorsuch.
00:30:56.000 In fact, it sounds very much like what Justice Scalia might have said in the same case.
00:31:00.000 There's an argument over whether this statute was vague or whether the statute was not vague, and nowhere does it say that Congress can't simply redraw the statute to make it less vague and then apply it going forward.
00:31:11.000 Again, there was a case called United States versus Johnson a couple of years ago about the Armed Career Criminal Act.
00:31:16.000 And it said if you were convicted of three prior violent felonies under the law, then you could be given extra prison time.
00:31:22.000 And there was some wiggle room in what it meant to be a violent felon.
00:31:25.000 And Antonin Scalia actually wrote with the four liberals as well as John Roberts.
00:31:30.000 They wrote the majority opinion.
00:31:31.000 So it's not, you know, out of the realm of possibility for Justice Gorsuch to... And people are saying, well, this means he's Anthony Kennedy.
00:31:38.000 That's not true.
00:31:39.000 I just don't think that's right at all.
00:31:42.000 I think Justice Gorsuch continues to be a real asset to the court.
00:31:45.000 And I think the ruling yesterday, it's controversial, but I don't think that Gorsuch gets this one wildly wrong.
00:31:50.000 Now, speaking of controversies that may mean more inside the administration, apparently Nikki Haley is now in a fight with other members of the administration.
00:31:57.000 So Nikki Haley, who is, of course, at the United Nations, as I have said, my spirit animal,
00:32:00.000 Nikki Haley at the United Nations is my favorite thing in American government in a very long time.
00:32:04.000 She's the U.S.
00:32:05.000 ambassador to the U.N.
00:32:06.000 Well, on Sunday, she said that there would be new sanctions against Russia that were forthcoming.
00:32:11.000 And then the administration walked that back, and Larry Kudlow suggested that she had been confused.
00:32:16.000 And so Nikki Haley let Dana Perino know in a statement over Fox News, quote, with all due respect, I don't get confused.
00:32:23.000 I don't
00:32:42.000 I don't think so.
00:33:03.000 I don't know.
00:33:24.000 The reason for that is that this particular person apparently was not a Trump supporter, and Trump has a nose for such things.
00:33:30.000 He doesn't want anybody who didn't support him in the last election cycle being in any position remotely approaching power.
00:33:35.000 And with all of that said, the idea that Mike Pence and Nikki Haley are planning some sort of coup inside the party,
00:33:41.000 I don't see the evidence
00:34:12.000 Okay, in just a second I want to talk about what's happening in California where freedom of speech is really on the line.
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00:35:03.000 Alrighty, so meanwhile, over in California, the California legislature is pushing a new law that really should scare people.
00:35:10.000 It essentially bans the sale of particular books.
00:35:13.000 I am not kidding.
00:35:14.000 This is something that is happening in the state of California.
00:35:16.000 So according to David French over at National Review,
00:35:33.000 We're good to go.
00:35:47.000 Hey, this is insane.
00:35:49.000 I'm sorry, this is insane.
00:35:50.000 This bill is totally crazy.
00:35:51.000 It doesn't matter whether you believe that conversion therapy works.
00:35:54.000 I think the evidence on that is at best mixed and leaning very strongly toward no.
00:35:58.000 But that does not mean that you shouldn't be able to read a book about how to fight particular urges or that urge you to behave in certain ways.
00:36:08.000 The entire religious worldview is that you have lots of urges, right?
00:36:11.000 We all have lots of urges, and a lot of those urges are bad for you, and you should resist those urges as much as possible.
00:36:16.000 But under California law, such books could be banned in the state of California.
00:36:21.000 Like, really.
00:36:22.000 And even worse, it says it includes efforts to change behaviors or gender expressions.
00:36:26.000 So in other words, if I have a three-year-old kid, and that three-year-old kid is expressing that they want to be the opposite sex, I can't take that kid to a therapist who is going to say that, who's going to try to make sure that my kids
00:36:38.000 Feelings of gender disorientation are alleviated?
00:36:42.000 I don't have the ability to do that in the state of California.
00:36:44.000 How in the world is that constitutional?
00:36:46.000 The answer is it's not constitutional.
00:36:47.000 The answer is also that folks on the left in California don't care.
00:36:50.000 So we talk about tyranny coming in the guise of a happy face, well this is what we're talking about.
00:36:54.000 The folks on the left in California suggesting, of course, that gender expression is innately baked into the cake, that sexual orientation is innately baked into the cake, and that any attempt by anyone to say any difference should be illegal in the state of California is fully crazy and fully violative of First Amendment basic freedoms.
00:37:11.000 It's also not true.
00:37:12.000 Okay?
00:37:13.000 It's also not true.
00:37:14.000 Human behavior changes on a regular basis.
00:37:16.000 Now, I'm not talking about your desires.
00:37:17.000 Your desires may not be changeable.
00:37:19.000 But it is a fact that when it comes to, for example, gender expression, 80% of all kids who identify as cross-gender when they are young grow out of it by the time they are teenagers.
00:37:29.000 And you're now telling me that I have to reinforce that at the state level?
00:37:32.000 And that if I don't, the state is going to sue me?
00:37:34.000 The state is going to punish me?
00:37:36.000 And remember, this isn't just seeking the services of a psychiatrist.
00:37:39.000 This is even by a book about this.
00:37:41.000 If Barnes & Noble carries a book about how to deal with a child who's suffering from gender dysphoria, and that book suggests that you don't have hormone treatment or humor it, that this may actually be a violation of California state law?
00:37:56.000 I mean, this is insane.
00:37:57.000 It's totally crazy.
00:38:00.000 As David French writes,
00:38:19.000 Not just that.
00:38:20.000 You can see a world in which California goes even further than this and starts taking children out of homes.
00:38:24.000 If you're a parent who says, listen, my little girl is not a little boy, no matter what she says, then you could see the state saying you are now engaging in child endangerment.
00:38:33.000 I cannot imagine the Supreme Court of the United States would uphold this law.
00:38:36.000 I just can't imagine it.
00:38:37.000 Now, maybe, you know, maybe a couple of the justices will try to uphold the law, some of the more radical justices.
00:38:44.000 But I just can't imagine that the Supreme Court would say this doesn't violate the First Amendment.
00:38:47.000 It very, very obviously
00:38:49.000 And of course, this is the future of—California is the future of the left.
00:39:00.000 So, if you wonder why folks on the right are so unwilling to make bargains with folks on the left about social issues, this is the reason.
00:39:06.000 Because social leftists are interested in not only changing minds, but in forcing that change on people from above using the power of government.
00:39:15.000 I mean, this is truly evil stuff.
00:39:16.000 Suggesting to people they shouldn't be able to buy books they want to buy, suggesting to people that they shouldn't be able to bring kids to the therapist they want to bring kids to, is just insane and evil.
00:39:25.000 It really is.
00:39:25.000 And the fact that California is pursuing it demonstrates how crazy the left has gone on social issues particularly.
00:39:31.000 Okay, time for some things that I like and then some things that I hate.
00:39:34.000 So,
00:39:35.000 Things that I like today.
00:39:37.000 So I'm in the middle of reading a book by Todd Esperdom called Something Wonderful, and it really is a great book.
00:39:43.000 It's all about Rodgers and Hammerstein.
00:39:45.000 Of course, I'm a huge Rodgers and Hammerstein fan.
00:39:47.000 Carousel, Oklahoma, South Pacific, The Sound of Music, The King and I.
00:39:53.000 They wrote a bevy of fantastic, fantastic musicals.
00:39:55.000 The one I've lately been listening to a lot is Carousel.
00:39:57.000 And, you know, I have to say, my kids have totally ruined me.
00:40:00.000 I used to be able to listen to Carousel without crying or without being emotional in any way.
00:40:04.000 And that was the way I preferred my life.
00:40:06.000 And now I listen to Carousel and I'm a mess.
00:40:09.000 So, well done, children.
00:40:11.000 You've destroyed me as a human being.
00:40:13.000 But the relationship between Rodgers and Hammerstein, not only does it say something about
00:40:19.000 You know, how great art is created, but the art that they created is quintessentially American.
00:40:23.000 If you look at the work that they did, so much of it is about this sort of liberal consensus post-World War II and even during World War II about what it was that America stood for, what America was fighting for.
00:40:33.000 They have several shows about cross-cultural exchanges.
00:40:35.000 They have a couple of shows specifically about fighting racism.
00:40:38.000 South Pacific, particularly, is a very anti-racist show.
00:40:41.000 They take on some really difficult issues.
00:40:44.000 In Carousel, for example, Billy Bigelow, who's the hero of the show, he's really not the hero of the show.
00:40:48.000 He's the anti-hero of the show.
00:40:49.000 He's a really bad guy.
00:40:50.000 One of the descriptions about Billy Bigelow's character that I think resonates is that Billy Bigelow in Carousel is supposed to be a really bad person who you significantly dislike until he starts to sing.
00:40:59.000 Because when he sings, suddenly he's expressing what he feels as opposed to how he behaves.
00:41:02.000 And you sort of understand all the challenges that he faces as a character.
00:41:06.000 But there's spousal abuse in Carousel.
00:41:08.000 And it's taken very seriously in the show.
00:41:11.000 It's just, there has been no better lyricist than Oscar Hammerstein.
00:41:16.000 Despite all the talk about how naive his lyrics are, you cannot listen to the soliloquy from Carousel without understanding how good his understanding of human character was.
00:41:24.000 And also, the understanding of what male and female are like.
00:41:28.000 I think that if you look back to his lyrics particularly, about how women sing about men, how men sing about women,
00:41:34.000 It's
00:41:49.000 Billy Bigelow is realizing that his wife has told him she's pregnant, and he is a complete ne'er-do-well.
00:41:54.000 He's a loser.
00:41:55.000 He's a bum.
00:41:56.000 But he thinks of himself very highly.
00:41:57.000 He thinks that he's the strongest guy in the world.
00:41:59.000 And so he starts off thinking, wow, I could have a boy.
00:42:01.000 And so he starts off talking about his boy Bill and what his boy Bill's going to be like.
00:42:04.000 He's going to be as tall and as strong as a tree.
00:42:06.000 He's probably going to go around telling all the other kids that I can lick their fathers while I can.
00:42:13.000 I'm a tough, rough guy, and my kid's going to be tough and rough just like me.
00:42:16.000 And then he realizes, halfway through the soliloquy, that this could be a girl.
00:42:19.000 And then his expression totally changes, right?
00:42:22.000 Everything changes.
00:42:23.000 Suddenly he realizes he has to be a responsible human being.
00:42:25.000 Suddenly he realizes that he has to go out and make some money.
00:42:27.000 He says that you can have fun with a son, but you have to be a father to a girl.
00:42:32.000 And by the end of the show, by the end of the song, he starts off talking about how strong he is and how tough he is and how he wants to see that in his son.
00:42:38.000 And by the end of the song, he says, you know, I can't, I need to go out and I need to earn.
00:42:43.000 I need to go make some money because I don't want my daughter growing up in an area with a bunch of bums just like me.
00:42:48.000 Suddenly there's actually some introspection that takes place when you have kids that you're responsible for.
00:42:52.000 It's an amazing, amazing song, but that's true of all of their lyrics.
00:42:55.000 The simplicity of Hammerstein's lyrics are deceptive because people think that
00:43:00.000 Great lyrics are really complex.
00:43:02.000 They think that Lin-Manuel Miranda's lyrics are of the same level as Hammerstein's, or even Sondheim's are of the same level as Hammerstein's.
00:43:07.000 I really don't think that's the case.
00:43:08.000 I think that Hammerstein had a unique understanding of human individuality, and that's why you can listen to lyrics from two different characters in Hammerstein's show, and they sound very different, whereas if you listen to Sondheim lyrics, for most of his characters, they sound like Sondheim.
00:43:21.000 Almost in the way that Aaron Sorkin is a very good writer, but all of his characters sound like versions of Aaron Sorkin.
00:43:26.000 The same is not true for Hammerstein.
00:43:27.000 OK, so check out the book Something Wonderful by Todd Purdum.
00:43:30.000 Other things that I like.
00:43:31.000 So, this is pretty amazing.
00:43:33.000 A heroic female pilot did save this Southwest flight.
00:43:36.000 This is a frightening story.
00:43:37.000 So obviously, if you saw yesterday, it was all over the news.
00:43:40.000 There was a Southwest flight from New York to Dallas.
00:43:43.000 And the Southwest flight, an engine came off the plane.
00:43:48.000 It, like, exploded.
00:43:49.000 Part of the left engine ripped off.
00:43:51.000 And part of it flew through the window.
00:43:52.000 It killed a woman.
00:43:53.000 There was a woman who sucked halfway out of the plane.
00:43:54.000 She ended up dying.
00:43:55.000 She apparently was a tremendous person as well, from all accounts.
00:43:59.000 But the woman who saved the flight, the pilot, was Tammy Jo Schultz.
00:44:03.000 I think so.
00:44:22.000 The pilot came on and said, we're diverting to Philadelphia, and you know, there was a serious medical injury.
00:44:25.000 I don't know much about that, but I was sitting in front with a couple of passengers.
00:44:28.000 We got the mask on, and as soon as we landed, we were thankful.
00:44:30.000 The pilots did a great job.
00:44:31.000 The crew did a great job.
00:44:32.000 They got us down to Philly, and that's when I took a photo of the engine, and it appeared that it shredded the left side engine completely.
00:44:37.000 So we were coming down.
00:44:38.000 We dropped 30,000 feet to 25,000 feet.
00:44:40.000 The pilot regained control.
00:44:41.000 It was pretty scary.
00:44:42.000 The pilots did a great job.
00:44:43.000 So who exactly is this woman?
00:44:46.000 As they say, she was one of the first female fighter pilots and the first woman to fly an F-18.
00:44:51.000 She wasn't permitted to fly in combat, but she became an aggressor pilot and an instructor.
00:44:55.000 And of course, she is also a religious Christian.
00:44:58.000 She talks about the fact that every time she flies, she sees it as proof of Christ in her life.
00:45:02.000 So, sounds like a pretty amazing person and well worth celebrating.
00:45:05.000 Okay, time for a quick thing that I hate.
00:45:11.000 All righty, so I wanna give you the update on the Starbucks, the Starbucks boycott, the stupid Starbucks boycott.
00:45:16.000 So, as I say, yesterday, I said yesterday on the show that I am skeptical of the stories that some vast swath of racism is happening across the country by Starbucks employees.
00:45:25.000 And I showed you a tape from one Starbucks in Torrance, which is an area that is about 40%, 35% Asian, and I think it's about 2% black, and largely Hispanic as well, so it's a heavily minority area.
00:45:39.000 And this Starbucks employee, who's Asian, supposedly told a black guy he couldn't use the restroom and all we saw of the tape is what the black guy had to say about it, but we never heard the manager's account of exactly what happened.
00:45:49.000 Well, the same thing happened at the Starbucks in Philadelphia that led this whole thing off.
00:45:53.000 It turns out that the manager of the Starbucks has spoken out, her name is Holly, and she has spoken relatively anonymously.
00:45:59.000 What she says happens is that these two black guys come in, and they sit down, and then they not only refuse to leave, but when asked politely to leave because they're not buying anything, they begin to get a little bit aggressive with her.
00:46:11.000 They begin to—and she calls the police.
00:46:12.000 Like, they just won't leave.
00:46:13.000 She says—they come in, they say, can we use the restroom?
00:46:15.000 She says no, and then they just sit down, and they stay there.
00:46:19.000 Now, do I believe her or do I believe the two black guys who are talking about this?
00:46:23.000 Well, you know, all I can say is that the supporting evidence tends toward the story of the manager.
00:46:30.000 And the reason I say that is because the police chief, who's a black guy, said that when the police came and they asked these two guys to leave, the two guys said no.
00:46:37.000 The two guys refused and they said, go ahead and arrest us.
00:46:39.000 You know, they were apparently relatively aggressive with the officers as well.
00:46:44.000 Not only that, but it turns out that this woman, Holly, who was the store manager, I got a letter from one of the listeners to The Ben Shapiro Show, who routinely goes to this particular Starbucks and knows the manager.
00:46:55.000 And here is what she wrote me.
00:46:57.000 What she wrote me is, Well, according to this person who listens to the show, quote,
00:47:07.000 From my observations and interactions with her, I was actually under the impression that Holly is an SJW feminist of the highest order.
00:47:14.000 Once I even heard her scorn a male barista for not using the proper neutral pronouns of somebody.
00:47:18.000 That's why this whole situation is so shocking to me.
00:47:20.000 Even though I did not agree with her and all the SJW pins that adorn her beanie, I think calling her a racist all over the news and doxing her name, address, phone, family, etc.
00:47:27.000 is disgusting.
00:47:28.000 The patron said Holly's not racist and doesn't deserve what is happening to her here in Philly.
00:47:32.000 The patrons of the Starbucks are, quote, both black and white, and I've personally seen Holly give the oh-so-coveted restroom code to both black and white people, patrons and non-patrons.
00:47:40.000 I've seen her train both black and white staff members.
00:47:42.000 She has been nothing but nice to everyone.
00:47:43.000 I've never witnessed any racist behavior.
00:47:45.000 I may not agree with the way she carries herself with the colorful hair and the hippie pins, but I can recognize when someone is doing their job well.
00:47:51.000 Again, it would be very weird if Holly were a giant racist working in Philadelphia at a Starbucks.
00:47:56.000 The city is 42% black.
00:47:59.000 That would just be a very weird hiring decision.
00:48:01.000 And she lasted a year at the job without anybody else having any complaints.
00:48:04.000 So I find this whole story somewhat suspicious.
00:48:07.000 But Starbucks is a soft target.
00:48:09.000 Starbucks is never going to say that the incident didn't happen or defend their employee.
00:48:13.000 They're always going to cave into the SJW crowd because this is what they do.
00:48:16.000 This is the danger of being on the side of the SJWs.
00:48:19.000 Eventually, they always eat their own.
00:48:21.000 OK, so we'll be back here tomorrow with all the latest.
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