As Barack Obama returns to the White House to take a victory lap, AOC graces the cover of GQ, and Hillary Clinton hits The View. Ben Shapiro explains why Obama represents a gap in how Americans have treated the presidency, and why a politician should be treated like a serious human being. He also points out that politicians have always been people who are working to make incremental changes that improve your life over the course of time. That's what a politician's job is to do, but what our politics has become is a bunch of social media influencers, and I m talking all the way on up to the presidency. Ben Shapiro is the host of The Ben Shapiro Show on Fox News Radio and host of the conservative podcast The Weekly Standard. He is also a regular contributor to The Daily Wire and the Weekly Standard, and is one of the most influential people in American politics. You can find him on social media at and . He can be reached by calling Ben on the phone at (602) 461-7416 or by e-mailing Ben at ben.shapiro@cnn.org. Ben is the author of the book, The New York Times bestselling novel, How to Be a Badass Politician, and is a frequent contributor on the radio show Good Morning America, Good Morning, Good Life, and Good Trouble, Good Trouble. and Good Scrapbook, and he also hosts a podcast on the podcast Good Trouble on The View, Good Thing, Good Things, Good Hustle, and The Real Talk, and many other projects, including Good Things and Good Things to Do on the Internet. His new book Good Thing is out now. See linktr.ee/BenShapiro is on the Ben Shapiro on Good Thing on Good Things on Good Day on The Good Life on The Bad Idea on Good Relationships and Good Thing On The Good Thing Things on the Good Thing Thing on the Bad Thing on The Great Thing on Monday, November 18th, 2019. on Tuesday, November 19th, 2020 on the Third Day on Good Friday on The Right Thing on Wednesday, November 21st, 2019 on The Left and Good Luck on The Seventh Day on the Seventh Day of Good Luck on Good Luck, Good Luck On The Third Day Good Luck! Thanks for listening to Ben Shapiro? Thank you Ben Shapiro and Good Fortune on The on the Podcast
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00:01:27.000I've been saying for a very long time that politics should be a serious business.
00:01:31.000I mean, sure, it's a comedy because it's a bunch of idiots running around who are telling you what to do and botching it every which way and then blaming you.
00:01:37.000And if you watch it as a tragedy, it's really sad.
00:01:39.000But if you watch it as a comedy, it's hilarious.
00:01:40.000But the truth is, politics overall is a pretty serious business because you're talking about people attempting to solve problems that affect it.
00:01:47.000Hundreds of millions, if not billions of people.
00:01:49.000You're talking about people who wield extraordinary amounts of power over your everyday life.
00:01:54.000And that means they should be serious people.
00:01:56.000They should be people who are working within our institutions in order to make incremental changes that better your life over the course of time.
00:02:03.000That's what politics theoretically should be about.
00:02:05.000And the job of a politician is different than, say, the job that I have, right?
00:02:09.000The job that I have is to articulate the principles that I believe in and then to hold people accountable when they don't actually face up to those principles.
00:02:16.000The job of a politician is to understand where their principles are and then to make the necessary adjustments to those principles, the necessary compromises in order to incrementally move the ball forward along the lines of their principles.
00:02:27.000That's what a politician's job is to do.
00:02:30.000But what our politics has basically become is a bunch of social media influencers.
00:02:33.000And I'm talking all the way on up To the presidency.
00:02:36.000So yesterday, Barack Obama shows up at the White House.
00:02:41.000And I think I really do think that Barack Obama represents a gap in how Americans have treated the presidency, have treated politics in total.
00:02:50.000Barack Obama was the first celebrity president.
00:02:53.000Like just treated as a celebrity, fated as a celebrity.
00:02:56.000He was a person who treated the office as a platform.
00:02:58.000He is not somebody who treated the office as an institution to be wielded for incremental change.
00:03:03.000Every change was going to be sweeping.
00:03:06.000He was a radical politician who wasn't really a politician.
00:03:09.000He was a messianic leader who'd been thrust into this and treated as a cultural icon by members of the left.
00:03:14.000Treated as one of the Hollywood glitterati.
00:03:17.000And he ushered in a new era in American politics.
00:03:20.000I mean, before that, basically American politicians, no matter how much the media tried to spin them as celebrities, they were still politicians.
00:03:42.000If you go back far enough, what you're talking about is not celebrity politics.
00:03:45.000You're talking about politicians who have a political job to do.
00:03:49.000And again, a politician is more like a plumber than they are like a messianic figure, at least in the American system.
00:03:55.000You're not supposed to treat your politicians as though they are people who have been arranged from on high to save you.
00:04:01.000And you're certainly not supposed to treat them the same way that you would treat a Hollywood celebrity.
00:04:04.000And yet the merger of culture and politics took place under Barack Obama.
00:04:09.000And it's been really, really bad for American politics on all sides of the aisle, by the way, not just for the left.
00:04:14.000Because once politics becomes not the art of getting things done in the context of checks and balances, upholding rights while pursuing better lives for people.
00:04:24.000Once politics becomes not that, but simply a platform for you to become more famous or more rich.
00:04:29.000For you to stand outside the system and shout at the system, politics breaks down.
00:04:33.000Yuval Levin, really good thinker over at the American Enterprise Institute, he had a book recently called The Time to Build.
00:04:38.000And he talked about how politics had basically shifted From a place where institutions shape the people who are instituted.
00:04:45.000If you went into Congress, Congress shaped you.
00:04:46.000You had to work within the boundaries of Congress to get things done.
00:04:49.000If you became president, the institution of the presidency shaped you.
00:04:53.000You had to work within its boundaries.
00:04:55.000There were constitutional norms that were supposed to affect you as a human being.
00:04:59.000And how politics has shifted from institutions and working within institutions to people who are using the institutions as a platform.
00:05:05.000And here's what Yuval Levin writes in his book, A Time to Build, because I think it's super relevant because what you're seeing in politics right now, the breakdown in politics and the dissatisfaction of Americans with their politicians comes from exactly this.
00:05:14.000Americans look at these messianic figures who, again, do not want to operate within the boundaries of their institutions, who see the institutions as thwarting them.
00:05:22.000And they expect the world from them because if somebody comes along and says, the institutions are what stand between you and glory.
00:05:27.000Come with me and I will break the institutions and I will fix everything for you.
00:05:31.000People tend to put their faith in those people and that faith ultimately will be disappointed.
00:05:35.000And that's particularly true if that person poses as a messianic figure and is utterly incapable of carrying off the charade, which is Joe Biden.
00:05:43.000At least what you can say about Barack Obama is that Barack Obama acted the part.
00:05:47.000If he's going to be a messianic figure, at least Barack Obama acted it.
00:05:50.000In his very personage, he embodied the idea that America was going to come together racially.
00:05:59.000You can say about Donald Trump on the right that at least Donald Trump was a real celebrity.
00:06:03.000I mean, he was a celebrity long before he was a politician.
00:06:06.000And so when he was a celebrity who became a politician, it wasn't that awkward a merger.
00:06:09.000As I've said before, Barack Obama and Donald Trump are actually weird kind of photo negative inverses of one another.
00:06:16.000Barack Obama liked to see himself as this very genteel politician, a A person who is operating in the mode of like Benjamin Disraeli or something.
00:06:35.000He says, on the threats to institutions that are characteristic of our time, he says, quote, we will find that the lure of cynical distance and of playing the outsider are deadly to the kind of renewal our society requires.
00:06:45.000And to the idea that politicians, they stand outside the system, they rip the system.
00:06:49.000That their job isn't to operate within the system.
00:06:51.000And what makes a politician successful is saying that the system itself is bad, campaigning against the system.
00:06:56.000Which has been a hallmark of Barack Obama and Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
00:06:59.000This is now a hallmark of pretty much everybody in politics.
00:07:02.000I'm an outsider, I'm campaigning against the system.
00:07:05.000Yvon Levin says that destroys the institutions.
00:07:08.000Says, we'll notice that the culture of celebrity turns out again and again to be the enemy of a culture of integrity.
00:07:14.000We'll see that our pervasive and polarized culture war is drowning our society in poisonous acrimony, and perhaps above all, we'll find that the people who occupy our institutions increasingly understand those institutions not as molds that ought to shape their behavior and character, but as platforms that allow them greater individual exposure and enable them to hone their personal brands.
00:07:33.000What he says, you've all heard him, he says, human beings are born as crooked creatures prone to waywardness and sin.
00:07:37.000We therefore always require moral and social formation.
00:07:40.000Such formation is what our institutions are for.
00:07:42.000But instead, what our politicians are doing is they are wrecking those institutions so they can build monuments to themselves.
00:07:47.000They're taking these institutions that have been carefully, gradually built up over the course of centuries, and they're just dismantling them and then reshaping the bricks into a platform for themselves.
00:07:57.000And Barack Obama was the leader in this.
00:09:04.000Barack Obama can't simply arrive at the White House, rub Joe Biden's balding head with the hair plugs and everything, and suddenly Joe Biden is significantly more popular.
00:09:13.000Barack Obama couldn't even do this with members of Congress when he was president of the United States, let alone when he's the ex-president.
00:09:43.000Well, when you look at the contrast between Obama and Biden, it is stunning.
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00:10:59.000So Obama and former First Lady Michelle Obama returned Wednesday to the White House for the unveiling of their official portraits.
00:11:04.000The paintings were revealed during a ceremony in the East Room hosted by President Biden and First Lady Jill Biden.
00:11:08.000It was the first time Mrs. Obama had returned to the White House since she and Obama left in 2017.
00:11:13.000Remember, Mrs. Obama has also used the White House as a massive platform for herself.
00:11:17.000She arrived in the White House Perceived as an extraordinary political radical, Michelle Obama.
00:11:23.000This is a lady who during the 2008 election campaign had suggested that she was never proud of her country until her husband was nominated for high office.
00:11:29.000Which is a pretty extraordinary thing to say when you went to Princeton University Harvard Law School and got a cush job on the University of Chicago Medical School Board.
00:11:38.000So if you're only proud of your country when your husband gets nominated, that says something about your politics.
00:11:42.000She was then transformed by the media into a level-headed moderate And now, of course, she's treated by the media as Oprah, and her book sold some 12 million copies, and she's treated as a cultural figure, a cultural totem.
00:11:54.000Mr. Obama visited earlier this year for an event honoring Obamacare.
00:11:57.000The ceremony, which was packed with former Obama aides, marked the first portrait unveiling at the White House since 2012, when former President George W. Bush and Laura Bush were received by the Obamas.
00:12:06.000Former President Trump didn't host his predecessor for a portrait event, as many recent presidents have.
00:12:10.000So, first of all, if Trump had invited Obama, you think Obama was going to show up and do that event with Trump?
00:12:15.000The White House Portrait Collection dates to a painting of former President George Washington that hangs in the East Room.
00:12:19.000Starting in the 1960s, the White House Historical Association sought to acquire portraits of past presidents and first ladies not in the collection and began financing portraits of recent presidents.
00:12:27.000According to Stuart McLaurin, the organization's president, this is the Wall Street Journal reporting.
00:12:32.000Mr. McLaurin said, quote, the association meets with the outgoing president and first lady.
00:12:35.000The couple picks the artist and the association pays for the portraits with private funds.
00:12:39.000Obama's portrait was painted by Robert McCurdy, an artist known for a photorealist style.
00:12:44.000So, you know, kind of, it looks like a photo, basically.
00:13:46.000We now have two straight presidents who have won Emmys, which says something about where we are as a culture.
00:13:50.000Donald Trump won an Emmy before he was president, right when he was doing The Apprentice.
00:13:54.000And Barack Obama has now won an Emmy for the signal feat of reading narrative about America's national parks.
00:14:01.000They're going to give this guy the EGOT before he's done, because again, he's a celebrity.
00:14:05.000He's more in line with Jennifer Lawrence than he is in line with George Washington.
00:14:08.000Here is CBS News reporting on this signal feat.
00:14:13.000Obama won the Emmy for Outstanding Narrator on Sunday for his work in the Netflix documentary, Our Great National Parks, which is a wonderful series if you haven't seen it.
00:14:22.000The five-part series, featuring national parks around the world, is produced by the Obama's production company, Higher Ground.
00:14:30.000Okay, by the way, you think that he won that Emmy because so many people love that National Parks documentary?
00:14:36.000Or do you think it's because they're all fans of Barack Obama?
00:14:38.000By the way, I believe this is actually his second Emmy.
00:14:44.000He won a Grammy for voicing his book or something.
00:14:48.000So again, politicians and celebrities, the merger of that is really, really bad for American politics.
00:14:53.000And then trying to transfer all of that momentum over to politics ends up with not only bad policy, but it also ends up with some real awkwardness because this sort of celebrity does not transfer over to Joe Biden.
00:15:02.000Joe Biden is playing a messianic figure, but It just doesn't play.
00:15:06.000Well, if celebrity and politics are a pretty bad merger, then one of the things that you also should not merge are, you know, high inflation rates and high interest rates.
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00:16:30.000That's why the country elected you twice.
00:16:31.000That's why you'll be considered one of the most consequential presidents in our history.
00:16:38.000My favorite thing, actually, about Barack Obama, there are not many things I like about Barack Obama as a president or as a human.
00:16:44.000He seems like a good father and a good husband, but aside from those, which are important things, obviously, the most important thing, but the thing I actually like about Barack Obama is that he hates Joe Biden.
00:16:55.000Like, if you read the stories about what Obama thinks of Joe Biden, Like, they're all about how he's sneering at Joe Biden, just bloviating and his logaria, his diarrhea of the mouth.
00:17:49.000Someone once said that if you're looking for a friend in Washington, get a dog.
00:17:57.000Our family was lucky enough to have two wonderful dogs.
00:18:02.000But I was even luckier to have a chance to spend eight years working day and night with a man who became a true partner and a true friend.
00:18:15.000Joe, it is now America's good fortune to have you as president.
00:18:22.000Oh man, I am so happy he's not president anymore.
00:18:24.000And I'm so sad that Joe Biden is currently our president.
00:18:29.000I think one of the best moments here was was Barack Obama started thanking the staffers.
00:18:33.000And he noted, by the way, all the staffers here used to work for me, because what he's really saying is all of Joe Biden's supposed feats of legislation.
00:19:29.000You're serving Biden what you serve me.
00:19:32.000But the media are there to... I do love when Barack Obama says, you know, in politics, you need a dog if you want a friend.
00:19:38.000Or you could just have the media massaging your feet all day long as they continue to do.
00:19:43.000That merger of celebrity and politics that started with Obama has not stopped.
00:19:46.000The awkward thing for Joe Biden is that he can't merge celebrity and politics because, again, he has no star quality.
00:19:51.000Joe Biden is only president because he was the person who was standing there barely alive while all of the socialists were fighting it out on the Democratic side of the aisle.
00:19:59.000And Democrats were like, what if we nominate a dead person against Trump?
00:20:48.000He hopes Biden runs again, he'll vote for him.
00:20:50.000Again, they're going to have to talk their way through the Biden presidency because he just doesn't have the star quality now that we live in the new world.
00:20:57.000The weird oddity of Joe Biden, of course, is that he combines the same disdain for the institutions that Barack Obama actually began, right?
00:21:03.000Pen and phone Obama, ripping on Congress, ripping on the Supreme Court, all the rest of it.
00:21:07.000He combines all of that with Zero star quality, like zero star power.
00:21:12.000So Democrats are having to walk that one through.
00:21:14.000But again, the transformation of American politics along celebrity lines, it's been a really, really bad thing.
00:21:21.000And you can see it in every major politician that we've seen, pretty much on both sides of the aisle since Barack Obama came into office for solidly 14 years here in the United States.
00:21:31.000So one of the other celebrity politicians who's been making her reappearance is, of course, Hillary Clinton.
00:21:36.000Hillary Clinton, she is now making trailers.
00:21:39.000She's now making full TV shows for Apple TV.
00:21:43.000Do you think that she used politics as a platform?
00:21:45.000You notice how she used it as a platform to build her persona?
00:21:47.000Her persona is now that she gets paid, presumably a lot of money, by Apple TV for a series called Gutsy about how she is the gutsiest person who ever gutsied.
00:21:55.000And the next gutsiest person is her daughter, who's also extraordinarily gutsy.
00:21:58.000And both of them are just as gutsy as Megan Thee Stallion, who's also an extremely gutsy person.
00:22:04.000Well, it's not just Barack Obama who's a celebrity politician.
00:22:06.000It's also Hillary Clinton who is a celebrity politician.
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00:22:12.000They just spend a lot of money to make themselves look like experts.
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00:23:44.000Oh my gosh, oh the requisite dancing clip.
00:23:47.000It's a document, it's a documentary by Hillary about Hillary being gutsy. It's amazing.
00:24:12.000One with yourself says Goldie Hawn man This series, it makes you want to, just the trailer makes you want to stick your head in an oven.
00:24:18.000And it's just horrific stuff happening right here.
00:24:21.000But again, that merger of celebrity and politics is the death of American politics because you're going to get people who are ineffective and whose stance is rooted in the idea that they are apart from the system.
00:24:36.000The View is a perfect example of this, by the way.
00:24:38.000You have a bunch of dunder-headed, low-IQ human beings talking about politics.
00:24:41.000They spent five seconds reading a headline in the New York Times.
00:24:44.000They don't even read to paragraph four in these stories.
00:24:47.000And you have these women jabbering at each other in the most unintelligent possible way, and then bringing on supposedly serious political figures like Hillary Clinton to jabber with them.
00:24:56.000So Hillary Clinton goes on The View yesterday and she starts, this is amazing, it's just incredible.
00:25:02.000Here she is talking about how it's terrifying the fact that Donald Trump was keeping classified documents in Mar-a-Lago.
00:25:17.000It should concern every American because Those documents in the empty folders, as they were marked, suggest that there was really important secret information that is essential to our country's defense and security.
00:25:37.000And when the report came out yesterday that the documents also included information about we don't know which, an ally or an adversary's nuclear program, I cannot tell you how terrifying that is.
00:25:53.000Yeah, I'm sure she was super terrified.
00:27:06.000I mean, what you should do with classified information is keep it on your private server, and then when you're asked to turn over that private server, you should probably bleach bit the thing.
00:27:15.000Hillary Clinton, by the way, is still out there claiming she had zero classified emails on her server, despite the fact that a 2018 Inspector General report found 193 emails that were classified sent to or from Hillary Clinton's server.
00:27:25.000So, again, the merger of celebrity and politics, it results in bad celebrities and bad politics.
00:28:07.000She hobnobs with anti-Semites and backs their play.
00:28:11.000She is a socialist through and through, like identifies as such.
00:28:16.000And she is the future of the Democratic Party, according to GQ.
00:28:18.000And this is like a perfect confluence, this article.
00:28:20.000It's also written by Wesley Lowry, who used to write for the Washington Post until they said, you know, you're so openly partisan, you can't be a reporter.
00:28:27.000He's like, of course, I'm openly partisan.
00:29:20.000People using the institutions, not as molds that ought to shape their behavior, but as platforms that allow them greater individual exposure and enable them to hone at their personal brands.
00:29:28.000There's nothing that says personal brand more than being on the cover of GQ in very expensive clothing.
00:29:33.000So she put out on her Instagram this statement, quote, I'm back after some rest time.
00:30:23.000It's this singularly unintelligent and unimpressive legislator.
00:30:29.000She says to tackle the issue of gender in politics, GQ decided to take some big risks and featured their first female politician on their cover interviewed by one of the most prominent young black male journalists and top journalist.
00:30:41.000Period of our time, Wesley Lowry, who again was kicked out of major publications for being a bias left winger with two legendary trans icons, photographing Wow.
00:32:02.000Which is why Meghan Markle thinks maybe she should run for office someday, despite the fact that her entire political resume is, I was a B-list actress on Suits, and then I married into a royal family that I crapped upon.
00:32:12.000There's no difference between her and AOC.
00:32:18.000This is not the way politics was supposed to work.
00:32:20.000Politics was supposed to be a boring business.
00:32:23.000For lawyers who basically put together legislation to tinker around the edges of our civilization.
00:32:31.000It was not meant to be a bunch of people who get very famous and very, very rich off of the institutions that have created the ability for Americans to be free.
00:32:42.000That is not what these institutions were built for.
00:32:44.000So Wesley Lowry has this entire just fawning piece.
00:32:48.000And implicit in this entire piece are all of the Evolvin warnings.
00:32:54.000A person who's outside the system, who yells about the system, believes the system is bad.
00:32:57.000A person who makes it her personal mission to use the system as a platform for her own celebrity quote.
00:33:03.000For her first two years in Washington, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez walked the few blocks from her apartment to her congressional office nearly every morning, a routine she felt forced to change after a treasonous mob stormed the Capitol.
00:33:43.000They're like, well, you know, definitely been a lot better given this morning.
00:33:46.000This was how the Congresswoman learned that the Supreme Court had gutted the constitutional right to abortion established by Roe versus Wade.
00:33:52.000The ruling had been anticipated for weeks after a draft opinion from the court's conservative faction leaked, but somehow much of Washington still managed to appear blindsided.
00:34:02.000Out on the steps of the Capitol, a group of lawmakers gathered to sing God Bless America, a pre-planned photo op that now Red is hopelessly out of touch.
00:34:08.000Angry Americans were spilling into the streets, and elected Democrats were singing campfire songs.
00:34:12.000Ocasio-Cortez knew where she needed to be.
00:34:51.000Or alternatively, it's really important for you to go where all the cameras are and stand in front of that crowd and pretend that you're one of the people who you are now living a very cush life off taxpayer money to quote-unquote represent.
00:35:01.000I'd arrived at the Supreme Court a few minutes before Ocasio-Cortez said Wesley Lowry to interview protesters and watched as she maneuvered in her plaid pink pantsuit.
00:35:08.000It was all coincidence what she was wearing that day.
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00:38:07.000All right, so we are going through this GQ cover piece on AOC, who indeed is sort of the culmination of the merger of celebrity and politics in our society, which really spells the end of a serious America.
00:38:17.000There are actual serious people in the world today who make aggressive moves against the United States.
00:38:21.000And we have decided instead to delegate the most powerful country in world history with the most robust constitutional system in world history to a bunch of dunderheaded idiots who seek celebrity status.
00:38:33.000You had Xi Jinping seeking full authoritarian rule in China and aggressively seeking to expand his borders.
00:38:37.000You have Vladimir Putin who's aggressively expanding his borders in Ukraine.
00:38:40.000And you have a bunch of celebrity politicians in the West who have decided that their main goal is to speak about the Green New Deal and or appear on Emmy broadcasts.
00:38:58.000AOC is essentially the ideological Child of people like Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton, the attempt by the left to merge celebrity and politics.
00:39:09.000So this piece by Wesley Lowry is just the ultimate example of this.
00:39:13.000She's again, she's on the cover of GQ quote.
00:39:14.000For a fleeting moment in front of the Supreme Court, it was possible to see the full, complicated public totality of the woman we've come to know as AOC, a 32 year old second term Congresswoman representing one of the country's most diverse districts by diverse districts.
00:39:26.000He means racially diverse, not ideologically diverse.
00:39:28.000It's universally Democrat, a certified celebrity.
00:39:31.000Arguably more famous than any other person in American politics without the last name Obama or Trump.
00:39:35.000Beloved and loathed at competing ends of the political spectrum.
00:39:38.000Constitutionally opposed to sitting down, shutting up, and conforming to the patriotic play theater of Washington.
00:39:44.000The right-wing's night terror in the flesh.
00:39:53.000We're afraid of her crap ideas being implemented.
00:39:56.000And we're sort of afraid of the fact that the entire media lick her boots despite the fact that she's a radical who stands for wrecking all of the major institutions.
00:40:03.000To many foot soldiers of the fractured, contradictory coalition that is the progressive left, she represents something singular.
00:40:21.000The clear air to an ascendant progressive movement, the best and possibly last, depending on how quickly some of the combination of fascism, religious fundamentalism, and climate change comes for us all, chants a source of hope that things can get better in their lifetimes.
00:40:36.000Ocasio-Cortez said of why she took to the streets that day about providing just a very real position that this is not over and we're not giving up.
00:40:59.000And of course, it's all about how she is a moral exemplar.
00:41:03.000And we know she's a moral exemplar because she's on GQ's cover, obviously.
00:41:06.000That's how you know she's a moral exemplar.
00:41:10.000In those weeks after Rose's demise, Ocasio-Cortez was ubiquitous.
00:41:13.000Actually, she's been ubiquitous literally since she entered Congress, at rallies and on TV demanding that her colleagues move with urgency to protect access to reproductive health services, calling on men in particular to share their stories of how they had benefited from decades of legally protected abortion.
00:41:27.000I love that now men are supposed to speak about abortion.
00:41:29.000So before, if you're a man who opposes AOC, you're supposed to sit down and shut up.
00:41:36.000If you're a man who backs AOC's agenda, then you're supposed to talk.
00:41:39.000By the way, she really revealed something truly ugly about the pro-choice movement, the radical pro-choice movement that she represents here.
00:41:45.000This is a quote for her about abortion.
00:42:11.000She says, quote, I think there's plenty of well-meaning reasons why men may feel it's not appropriate for them to talk about it.
00:42:15.000I think sometimes the way white folks don't like to talk about race and they say we just want to censor the person who's most impacted.
00:42:20.000So it's not my role to do anything or take a space and speak up.
00:42:23.000But we know that when white folks take up space and say the right thing in rooms of other white people, that is the most shifting activity that can happen.
00:42:30.000More sometimes than any protest or any person writing a letter to the editor or anything like that.
00:42:33.000We need men to be speaking up in that way as well.
00:42:36.000But I think men sometimes they think, I'm not a woman.
00:42:47.000If you're a man, you're in a room with a woman and abortion comes up, you shut your face.
00:42:51.000But if you represent our message to other white people, then the power is with you.
00:42:55.000And if the system fails to change, well, that's your fault because you kept quiet.
00:42:59.000And then Ocasio-Cortez starts lecturing men about what masculinity means, which is just hysterical.
00:43:05.000I'm sorry, that's just really, really funny.
00:43:07.000She's a 32-year-old woman who just got married and has no children, who is lecturing men about what it means to be a man.
00:43:15.000Sorry if I take that with a grain of salt.
00:43:18.000Men keep quiet, Ocasio-Cortez pointed out, because of the burdens and antiquated expectations of masculinity.
00:43:23.000Feminist writers and thinkers have raised this notion for decades, pointing out how men themselves are victimized by toxic societal constructs.
00:43:29.000Oh, I need a lecture from Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez about ideal masculinity.
00:44:13.000By the way, she is asked in this piece about running for president, and she says that she is concerned about being president because actually it's really hard to be president.
00:44:23.000She says that she might run at some point, but there's so many obstacles.
00:44:29.000So many obstacles, quote, could Obama have gotten elected without the kind of financial support she had, that he had?
00:44:46.000Because again, she doesn't want to be responsible for actual policy.
00:44:48.000She wants to be a person who grows all of her membership lists and make a lot of money and complain about how America is unjust.
00:44:55.000That's what she, and so we have an unserious political class Leading, apparently, an unserious people who believe that these folks are actual leaders.
00:45:04.000Alrighty, guys, the rest of the show is continuing now.
00:45:05.000You don't want to miss it because we are going to be getting into Whoopi Goldberg defending election denial on the part of the current White House press secretary and we'll bring you the story of a Democratic politician who actually murdered a journalist.
00:45:17.000Now, that would be front page news nearly everywhere.
00:45:19.000If it were the opposite party, it is not.