The Ben Shapiro Show - October 17, 2019


The Barren Democratic Field | Ep. 879


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53 minutes

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204.47021

Word Count

10,871

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734

Misogynist Sentences

19

Hate Speech Sentences

20


Summary

The Democratic debate exposes the field s weaknesses, President Trump struggles with the fallout from Rudy Giuliani s incompetence, and Trump hurts Erdogan on Syria. Ben Shapiro's show is sponsored by ExpressVPN. Protect your online privacy today, like right now, by becoming a supporter of ExpressVPN, like today, and get 20% off your first month with discount code: PGPUNIVERSAL. Use the promo code: "ProtectYourOnline Privacy" to receive $10 and contribute $10 to Protect Your Online Privacy, and a free e-cigarette with purchase of a carton of Caff Monster Energy drinks. The show is also available on most major podcast directories, including Apple Podcasts, Overcast, Pocketcasts, and Stitcher. Subscribe to The Ben Shapiro Show wherever you get your shows, and don't forget to give us your rating and review! It helps spread the word about the show and keep us in touch with our listeners! Thanks to our sponsors ExpressVPN! The biggest sponsor is ExpressVPN and they are making safe, secure, reliable and secure connections easier for you to access the best of the best in the best VPNs, the fastest growing and most reliable VPNs around the world. Have a question or would you like to support the show? Call them at 800-273-8255-2782 or visit ExpressVPN? and they'll get a shoutout on the next episode of the show on their website? The average American adult listening to the show will get 10% off the entire month of episodes, plus an ad-free version of the first week of the new episodes throughout the month, plus a free for the rest of the coming in the coming months, and all the weekends, through the coming up in the next week, full of special offer throughout the world, plus all the options available in the world discount offers, plus early ad-only shipping and all other options available throughout the entire world, including VIPs worldwide, including the UK and the UK, including Canada and the Caribbean, and much more! If you get a discount code, you get $10% off of the second half of the US, you'll get $5,000 off the second week of VIPs get $50 off the next month, and I'll get full access to the second-place deal, and there's a special offer, and the third week gets $50% off, and they get an ad discount, too!


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The big democratic debate exposes the field's weaknesses, President Trump struggles with the fallout from Rudy Giuliani's incompetence, and Trump hurts Erdogan on Syria.
00:00:08.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
00:00:08.000 This is The Ben Shapiro Show.
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00:00:24.000 Okay, well we got a ton to get to today.
00:00:26.000 We will get to the recap of the Democratic 2020 debate and the fallout therefrom.
00:00:30.000 It appears that There is some roiling tension inside that Democratic field.
00:00:34.000 People are not satisfied with the field they have.
00:00:37.000 Honestly, if Hillary Clinton were to make her grand re-entrance, now would be about the time she should do it.
00:00:41.000 Because the fact is, a lot of people are dissatisfied with Biden, a lot of people are dissatisfied with Warren, and Hillary is an enormous name.
00:00:47.000 If she were to jump in right now, I think there's a pretty good shot she wins the nomination.
00:00:50.000 Now, is she actually going to do that?
00:00:52.000 Probably not.
00:00:53.000 And that means the Democratic field is pretty extraordinarily weak.
00:00:56.000 So we'll get to that in just a little bit.
00:00:58.000 But we begin today with updates on impeachment day 2019.
00:01:03.000 So, according to the New York Times, President Trump's impeachment blockade has now crumbled as witnesses agree to talk.
00:01:10.000 So the White House had said to the House that we are not providing witnesses to you.
00:01:13.000 And witnesses are showing up anyway because They don't really need the White House's permission to show up as long as they're not testifying to anything that is privileged material.
00:01:22.000 A week after President Trump's lawyer, Pat Cipollone, sent a letter to the House Democrats saying we're not cooperating, according to the New York Times, it has become clear that President Trump's attempts to stonewall the Democrat-led inquiry that has imperiled his presidency and ensnared much of his inner circle are crumbling.
00:01:37.000 One by one, a parade of Trump administration career diplomats and senior officials has offered a cascade of revelations.
00:01:42.000 That's an overstatement.
00:01:43.000 We haven't really seen a lot in the way of revelations.
00:01:46.000 We've seen a lot of perceptions by members of the Trump administration who are sort of career offices at the State Department.
00:01:52.000 That is what we've seen.
00:01:54.000 And it is not necessarily irrelevant, but it's certainly not dispositive.
00:01:58.000 This is not material where you have a bunch of people from the State Department having inside information.
00:02:03.000 It's mostly those people saying, I was cut out of the process, and I'm really pissed about that, and I wish I hadn't been cut out of the process, and this shows that Trump is corrupt.
00:02:10.000 Well, it could just show that President Trump doesn't trust you, doesn't trust the State Department, and runs a very, very closed ship with people that he does trust.
00:02:18.000 Which, by the way, is 100% true.
00:02:20.000 I mean, that is what Trump has been doing since day one, to the chagrin of many in the media, and to the chagrin of many who are sort of professional politicos.
00:02:28.000 President Trump has surrounded himself with family members, with immediate friends, and this has not worked out well for him, see Michael Cohen in some ways, but in other ways it has at least kept the circle small.
00:02:38.000 I mean, it's been an incredibly leaky administration.
00:02:40.000 There are a lot of people in the administration who have been serving from before this administration who don't like Trump, and that's been perfectly obvious from the leaks.
00:02:47.000 It's been perfectly obvious from the text messages that we have seen from members of the Trump intelligence community texting each other.
00:02:54.000 I'm speaking here specifically of Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.
00:02:58.000 Trump, in other words, has some fairly decent reasons to be pretty suspicious of the people who were in government before he was.
00:03:07.000 And so him cutting State Department officials out of the loop isn't necessarily proof of corruption.
00:03:12.000 It could just be proof that Trump doesn't trust any of these people.
00:03:14.000 Again, my going theory on virtually everything political is that you must attribute to stupidity More than you attribute to malice.
00:03:22.000 That you only attribute something to malice when you can't attribute it to stupidity.
00:03:26.000 And when it comes to President Trump's dealings with Ukraine, that one looks a lot more, to me, yeah, could be wrong, we'll see what the evidence says, it looks more to me like President Trump fumbling around in Ukraine based on bad information fed to him by Rudy Giuliani than it does like President Trump specifically attempting to leverage Ukraine into quote-unquote getting Joe Biden.
00:03:45.000 In any case, According to the New York Times, these accounts from various career diplomats and senior officials have corroborated and expanded upon key aspects of the whistleblower complaint that spawned the impeachment inquiry into whether the president abused his power to enlist Ukraine to help him in the 2020 presidential election.
00:04:01.000 The latest disclosures came on Wednesday when a former top aide to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo offered an inside account of what he said was a demoralized State Department where career diplomats were sidelined and others apparently were pressed to use their posts to advance domestic political objectives.
00:04:14.000 In six hours of voluntary testimony, the former aide Michael McKinley told impeachment investigators that he quit his post as Mr. Pompeo's senior advisor amid mounting frustrations over the Trump administration's treatment of diplomats and its failure to support them in the face of the impeachment inquiry, according to a copy of his opening remarks.
00:04:31.000 Now, again, people frustrated at the State Department, That's sort of the byword of virtually every Republican administration.
00:04:37.000 It's worse under this administration, but sometimes that is fully justified.
00:04:41.000 I mean, I know, for example, the State Department, I'm over here in Israel, the State Department was supremely unhappy with President Trump's decision to move the embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to the capital, the eternal capital of Israel, Jerusalem.
00:04:52.000 And tough And tough, he was right.
00:04:54.000 The State Department was wrong.
00:04:55.000 And there have been a variety of circumstances where the State Department advised something, Trump overruled them.
00:05:00.000 Sometimes he's right, and sometimes he's wrong.
00:05:02.000 But that's his prerogative.
00:05:03.000 He's President of the United States.
00:05:04.000 And if your morale is low because you don't like the President, well, suck it up, buttercup.
00:05:09.000 I mean, the fact is, you work for a permanent branch of government, and you've been working there for a long time.
00:05:14.000 Now, again, this does not mean that Trump did not do anything corrupt.
00:05:17.000 Maybe these people are demoralized because they think Trump is corrupt.
00:05:20.000 Again, that's their prerogative.
00:05:21.000 That's not proof he's corrupt.
00:05:22.000 In any case, Democrats on Thursday are set to hear from Gordon Sumlin, the U.S.
00:05:26.000 ambassador to the European Union, a central figure in the president's pressure campaign on Ukraine.
00:05:32.000 He is expected to testify that he learned that Mr. Trump did not intend to invite President Zelensky of Ukraine to a meeting in the Oval Office until Zelensky pledged to open an investigation that could benefit Trump's political fortunes, bolstering a central allegation in the inquiry that the president steered foreign policy for political gain.
00:05:48.000 Now remember, This has morphed a little bit.
00:05:49.000 Originally it was that he was withholding military aid in order to pressure Ukraine.
00:05:53.000 Now they're making the claim that he was withholding a meeting with Zelensky in order to pressure Ukraine to go get Biden.
00:05:58.000 It is unclear whether he wanted to quote-unquote target corruption in Ukraine and he misperceived that as including Biden.
00:06:06.000 Or whether he specifically meant to get Biden.
00:06:07.000 That last question is the one that only Rudy Giuliani basically can answer, which is why Rudy's going to be dragged up before a House committee.
00:06:14.000 Democratic lawmakers, according to the New York Times, have directed William Taylor, one of the top American diplomats in Ukraine, to appear before their committees next Tuesday, according to an official familiar with the investigation.
00:06:24.000 Text messages produced as part of the inquiry suggest that Taylor was deeply uneasy about what he saw as an effort by Trump aides to use a $391 million package of security assistance as leverage over Ukraine for political favors, calling the notion crazy.
00:06:37.000 Well, of course they want to call him.
00:06:38.000 If you read his text messages, he's parroting basically everything that Democrats are suggesting happened over in Ukraine.
00:06:45.000 The White House has successfully blocked a lot of the documents tied to the case, but the president and his lawyers had hoped to use the power of his office to muzzle current and former diplomats and White House aides, arguing in presidential tweets and a lengthy letter to Democratic lawmakers on October 8th that their subpoenas are invalid and unenforceable.
00:07:01.000 Patrick Malone, of course, as I mentioned, wrote, President Trump cannot permit his administration to participate in this partisan inquiry under these circumstances, but a bunch of officials have testified for apparently something like 36 total hours.
00:07:14.000 So does that mean that they actually have the goods on Trump?
00:07:17.000 No, not at all.
00:07:19.000 Not at all.
00:07:19.000 It does not mean that by any stretch of the imagination yet.
00:07:22.000 But this is prompting Republicans to try and figure out their own counter strategy.
00:07:27.000 That counter-strategy involves what is an incredibly dumb idea, apparently, by Lindsey Graham.
00:07:31.000 We'll get to that in just one second.
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00:08:40.000 Okay, so Lindsey Graham is responding to all of this with what I think is a really foolish idea of...
00:08:47.000 Apparently he has a plan to send a letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi warning that the Senate Republican caucus will not remove President Trump from office.
00:08:55.000 This is just foolhardy in the extreme.
00:08:58.000 So the letter, according to Graham's description, would warn Pelosi that Senate Republicans will not vote to remove President Trump from office because of a phone call where he asked the Ukrainian government to look into former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden.
00:09:10.000 The reason this is a stupid, stupid idea by Lindsey Graham is twofold.
00:09:13.000 One, how many Republicans are actually going to sign it?
00:09:15.000 If it's not all the Republicans, then Trump looks weak.
00:09:17.000 It looks like there are a bunch of Republicans who are wavering on impeachment, when in reality, they're just waiting for more information, which is what all rational people should be doing at this point.
00:09:26.000 The fact is that we don't know what happened with regard to Ukraine.
00:09:29.000 You don't know.
00:09:30.000 Only Trump and Giuliani know.
00:09:30.000 I don't know.
00:09:32.000 Well, that means that if you're a Republican senator, the last thing you want to do is say, I am stalwartly against impeachment.
00:09:37.000 And then five seconds later, Rudy Giuliani gets up there and he says, yeah, I was running around Ukraine.
00:09:42.000 Sure, sure.
00:09:44.000 And oh, God.
00:09:46.000 The last thing you want to do as a Republican senator is put yourself out there before all the evidence is out, because you don't know where this thing is going.
00:09:53.000 Now, you can express publicly that the evidence on the table does not justify impeachment.
00:09:57.000 That is true.
00:09:58.000 The evidence on the table does not justify impeachment.
00:10:01.000 But to forecast in a letter that you are never going to support impeachment, no matter what the circumstance, would be a foolish move.
00:10:09.000 And to not sign the letter would also be a foolish political move, because then it looks as though you're not supporting the president in the face of a partisan-driven impeachment inquiry.
00:10:16.000 So, Graham, like, what is the point of this?
00:10:19.000 This is a very foolish move.
00:10:21.000 Senator John Kennedy of Louisiana told The Hill he'd sign the letter if it is as described, but he warned it could be a distraction.
00:10:27.000 He said, I'll sign the letter.
00:10:28.000 That doesn't mean I think it's necessarily a good idea.
00:10:30.000 We don't need distractions right now.
00:10:32.000 Kennedy acknowledged there's a risk that if the letter doesn't get enough signatures, that puts the GOP in a tough spot.
00:10:37.000 He says, the fact that some senators may not sign the letter doesn't indicate they don't support the president.
00:10:41.000 They just want to hear more, and I don't think that's fair to them.
00:10:44.000 I worry Americans will look at it and some less enlightened members of the press will look at it and say, okay, this is what the vote will be among the Republicans.
00:10:51.000 That is exactly right.
00:10:53.000 That is exactly right.
00:10:54.000 So Graham, look, my guess is probably that Graham is doing this at Trump's behest.
00:10:59.000 That probably Trump called up Graham and said to him, I want a letter.
00:11:03.000 And Graham, because he's trying to do his best to defend the president and has been sycophantic toward President Trump, to say the least, my guess is that Lindsey Graham was like, OK, I can do that.
00:11:14.000 And then he just went ahead and did it.
00:11:16.000 But the fact is, it is a very, very bad idea.
00:11:19.000 Another GOP senator said he's trying to help, but it's going to backfire.
00:11:22.000 If there aren't enough signatures, the president is going to look really weak.
00:11:25.000 And that, of course, is true.
00:11:27.000 Now, in other impeachment-grade developments, the House Oversight Committee is now asking a federal appeals court to expedite the enforcement of a subpoena for President Trump's financial records.
00:11:37.000 So if you thought that this whole thing seems like it's just a fishing expedition, at this point a deep sea fishing expedition, that's right.
00:11:45.000 Originally we were told that this impeachment inquiry was going to be focused, laser focused, honing in directly on the Ukraine stuff.
00:11:53.000 And now we have the House Oversight Committee who is delving into President Trump's tax returns, which Last I checked, those returns precede his term in office.
00:12:03.000 The ones that they are really looking for.
00:12:05.000 So not sure what exactly they think they're going to find there that the IRS hasn't already seen.
00:12:09.000 The motion comes just days after the U.S.
00:12:11.000 Court of Appeals for the D.C.
00:12:13.000 Circuit upheld the Oversight Committee subpoena of the financial firm Mazars in a sweeping victory for the House Democrats.
00:12:18.000 The subpoena was issued earlier this year prior to the launch of the impeachment inquiry.
00:12:22.000 A three-judge panel on the Circuit Court ruled Friday that Mazars would have to turn over eight years worth of Trump's financial records to the House Committee Trump's lawyers said this is a phishing expedition, we shouldn't have to turn it over.
00:12:32.000 Now they have appealed this to the full court on the DC Circuit Court of Appeals.
00:12:35.000 This probably, probably ends up at the Supreme Court level, where we find out whether the House does in fact have plenary power over subpoenaing any documents it could possibly want, including confidential proprietary business information, without any evidence of underlying criminal activity.
00:12:53.000 You know, as I say, a lot of this is going to come down to Rudy Giuliani.
00:12:57.000 And according to CNN, investigators are now looking into Rudy Giuliani in a counterintelligence probe.
00:13:01.000 Now, this should make all of us a little suspicious.
00:13:06.000 It should make us wince a little bit.
00:13:07.000 Why?
00:13:07.000 Well, because the Trump-Russia investigation was launched under counterintelligence auspices.
00:13:12.000 Eventually it turned into a criminal investigation of President Trump and his team.
00:13:16.000 But it was launched under counterintelligence auspices, meaning that it was designed to look into whether the Russian government was interfering with the US elections.
00:13:23.000 And then it quickly turned into Trump obstruction, stuff that had nothing to do with Russia per se.
00:13:29.000 Well, now you have a counterintelligence investigation that has been opened into Rudy Giuliani.
00:13:33.000 This is going to lead President Trump to believe more and more that the quote-unquote deep state is out to get him and his team because Rudy Giuliani is his personal lawyer.
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00:14:46.000 Okay, so according to CNN, For months, investigators looking into Rudy Giuliani's business dealings in Ukraine have dug into everything from possible financial entanglements with alleged corrupt Ukrainian figures to counterintelligence concerns raised by some of those business ties, according to people briefed on the matter.
00:15:02.000 The counterintelligence part of the investigation indicates that FBI and criminal prosecutors in Manhattan are looking at a broader set of issues related to Giuliani, President Trump's personal attorney, than has been previously reported.
00:15:13.000 Kenneth McCallion, a New York attorney, says that investigators first approached him earlier this year to ask about Giuliani's ties to Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, two Giuliani associates indicted last week on campaign finance-related charges.
00:15:25.000 These guys were apparently some of the people who were feeding Giuliani information on corruption in Ukraine.
00:15:29.000 McCallion says that FBI counterintelligence agents in February or March asked questions about some of Giuliani's Ukrainian business dealings.
00:15:37.000 The counterintelligence probe hinges in part on whether a foreign influence operation was trying to take advantage of Giuliani's business ties in Ukraine and with wealthy foreigners to make inroads with the White House, according to one person briefed on the matter.
00:15:50.000 McCallion says, I was just asked whether I or any of my clients knew of any dealings these two guys had with Giuliani.
00:15:55.000 They were on the radar with regard to possible counterintelligence issues.
00:16:00.000 Some of the FBI agents and prosecutors handling the case come from the same public corruption unit that targeted Michael Cohen.
00:16:05.000 So, from the frying pan to the fire with the personal lawyering for President Trump, the investigators in the Southern District of New York appear to have largely operated separately from what Trump appointees at the Justice Department headquarters in D.C.
00:16:17.000 have pursued in recent months.
00:16:18.000 The investigation dates back far longer than what's previously been reported because Giuliani has longstanding relationships in Ukraine, and Ukraine, of course, is the Wild West when it comes to Everybody in American politics getting, apparently there's a lot of money to be made if you sort of pad the right pockets and all the rest of this.
00:16:34.000 Justice Department officials said last month that criminal division prosecutors in Washington had examined Trump's July call with the Ukrainian president only for that narrow issue of potential campaign finance violations and determined this was not a campaign finance violation, but the issue was far from close.
00:16:49.000 Meanwhile, federal prosecutors in New York are aggressively pursuing broader issues related to Ukraine matters.
00:16:55.000 And of course they are now prosecuting four Giuliani associates.
00:16:59.000 So Giuliani may be entangled in all of this.
00:17:02.000 Apparently former Texas Republican Representative Pete Sessions has been issued a subpoena by prosecutors.
00:17:10.000 Sessions wrote a letter to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to raise concerns about the then U.S.
00:17:13.000 ambassador to Ukraine, who was later removed by President Trump following complaints by Giuliani and others.
00:17:18.000 So one of the questions here is whether Giuliani and Sessions were being paid by these Ukrainian guys at the same time they were pushing Trump to remove Marie Yovanovitch, who was the U.S.
00:17:26.000 ambassador to Ukraine.
00:17:28.000 So now it's possible this starts to look less like Trump corruptly going after Joe Biden and more like Rudy Giuliani Corruptly, maybe.
00:17:36.000 Corruptly feeding Trump bad information, or at the very least being bamboozled while being paid at the same time to feed Trump bad information that he was then using to impact policy in Ukraine.
00:17:47.000 John Bolton saw a lot of this coming, apparently.
00:17:50.000 Just a few days ago, the New York Times reported that John Bolton got into a tense exchange on July 10th with Gordon Sondland, the Trump donor turned ambassador to the EU, who was working with Giuliani to press Ukraine to investigate Democrats, according to three people who heard the testimony.
00:18:03.000 Bolton's aide, Fiona Hill, testified that Bolton told her to notify the chief lawyer for the National Security Council about a rogue effort by Sunland, Giuliani, and Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff, according to people familiar with the testimony.
00:18:15.000 Bolton, the ill-trained lawyer, apparently told Hill to tell White House lawyers, quote, I'm not part of whatever drug deal Sunland and Mulvaney are cooking up, which always sounds great.
00:18:24.000 It was not the first time that Bolton had expressed grave concerns to Hill about the campaign being run by Giuliani.
00:18:29.000 Giuliani's a hand grenade who's gonna blow everybody up, Hill quoted Bolton as saying during an earlier conversation.
00:18:35.000 So again, as I've been saying literally for weeks at this point, this whole thing is going to come down to Rudy Giuliani.
00:18:41.000 Meanwhile, Gordon Sondland is set to testify, and people believe that Sondland was basically Trump's lackey in Europe.
00:18:49.000 According to a former top White House foreign policy advisor, he told House impeachment investigators this week she viewed Gordon Sumlin as totally unprepared for his job.
00:18:58.000 That would be Fiona Hill, the same aide that we were talking about with regard to John Bolton.
00:19:03.000 She described Sumlin a hotelier and Trump donor turned ambassador as metaphorically driving in an unfamiliar place with no guardrails and no GPS, according to people who are not Authorized to publicly discuss that deposition that took place behind closed doors.
00:19:15.000 Someone is set to testify this week and we'll find out exactly what he has to say.
00:19:19.000 One of the things he is expected to talk about is the text exchange that he had with Bill Taylor, another official over in Ukraine.
00:19:29.000 So, none of this is really wonderful-looking for President Trump.
00:19:33.000 John Bolton is likely to be subpoenaed.
00:19:35.000 and Sondland tweeted back, texted back to him, this isn't a quid pro quo, he's expected to say, Trump told me to say that, that it wasn't a quid pro quo, that it wasn't his own independent opinion, it wasn't a quid pro quo.
00:19:44.000 Trump told me it's not a quid pro quo, and I'm telling you, it's not a quid pro quo.
00:19:49.000 So none of this is really wonderful looking for President Trump.
00:19:53.000 John Bolton is likely to be subpoenaed.
00:19:56.000 Again, it's going to come down to Giuliani, right?
00:19:58.000 John Bolton is increasingly likely to show up for testimony, but what's he going to say that is, that is new.
00:20:06.000 What's he going to say that we don't already know from these press reports?
00:20:08.000 The answer is probably not much.
00:20:11.000 It's all going to come down to what Giuliani has to say.
00:20:14.000 And the fact is that Trump appears to have been fed bad information by a variety of sources, including Giuliani.
00:20:19.000 For example, yesterday in the middle of a press conference, President Trump went off on the so-called DNC servers in Ukraine.
00:20:25.000 I still ask the FBI, where is the server?
00:20:29.000 How come the FBI never got the server from the DNC?
00:20:33.000 Where is the server?
00:20:34.000 I want to see the server.
00:20:36.000 Let's see what's on the server.
00:20:38.000 So the server, they say, is Held by a company whose primary ownership individual is from Ukraine.
00:20:48.000 I'd like to see the server.
00:20:50.000 I think it's very important for this country to see the server.
00:20:54.000 Okay, so the reason that he wants to see the server, supposedly, is because there is this theory that's going through the CrowdStrike, which was the firm that was brought in to analyze the hack on the DNC servers.
00:21:03.000 Actually was covering for the fact it was a Ukrainian hack, not a Russian hack.
00:21:07.000 Trump wants to believe that because obviously he doesn't like the idea that Russian interference in the election shaped his election in any way.
00:21:13.000 But there is not good information that the DNC servers are in Ukraine or really have anything to do with Ukraine.
00:21:19.000 They were analyzed by CrowdStrike.
00:21:20.000 It is not unusual for servers to be analyzed by a third party.
00:21:23.000 That is not, in fact, the government.
00:21:24.000 We talked about this on the show a while back.
00:21:27.000 Again, you know, the, I think, most realistic possibility with regard to what we know so far is that President Trump was misinformed by people who should know better, but President Trump himself didn't necessarily know better, and that is why President Trump was acting in a way that he thought that there would be information behind these various rocks, and there was no information behind the various rocks.
00:21:47.000 And so, there's an appearance of corruption without actual corruption.
00:21:51.000 Why?
00:21:51.000 Well, because of basically being fed bad information, incompetence, and Failures of knowledge.
00:21:58.000 Okay, meanwhile, the president's Syrian policy is just a mess, unfortunately.
00:22:03.000 The president's Syrian policy has continued to unveil in disastrous fashion.
00:22:08.000 There's video being released yesterday by Russia Today of Russian troops that were overrunning a U.S.
00:22:13.000 base.
00:22:13.000 I mean, it looks like the fall of Saigon.
00:22:15.000 It's really ridiculous.
00:22:17.000 President Trump is trying to defend himself.
00:22:19.000 Also, there's more bad material being released for Trump, at least material that makes Trump look bad, with regard to Syria.
00:22:28.000 I have to read this letter.
00:22:29.000 So President Trump had this conversation with Recep Tayyip Erdogan via phone.
00:22:33.000 The conversation via phone, which happened just about a week ago.
00:22:37.000 He had that conversation via phone.
00:22:40.000 Basically had Erdogan saying to him, I wish you would pull out of this area so we can attack the Kurds, because the Kurds are a bunch of terrorists.
00:22:46.000 And Trump's saying, OK.
00:22:47.000 And then he pulls out.
00:22:48.000 And then the Turks attack.
00:22:49.000 And then Trump is like, well, I wish they hadn't done that.
00:22:52.000 And now we're going to try and do sanctions.
00:22:54.000 This policy was so bad that the House voted yesterday to rebuke President Trump over his decision to withdraw those troops from northern Syria.
00:23:02.000 To 60.
00:23:02.000 The measure passed 354 to 60.
00:23:07.000 All 60 votes against the resolution came from Republicans, but the majority of the Republican caucus actually voted in favor of the motion, including the top three House Republicans.
00:23:16.000 The resolution was sponsored by the House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Elliot Engel and the panel's top Republican Representative Michael McCaul of Texas and opposes the decision to end certain U.S.
00:23:25.000 efforts to prevent Turkish military operations against Syrian Kurdish forces in Northeast Syria.
00:23:31.000 As we were reporting yesterday, the fact is that the Kurds are now joining forces with Bashar Assad in order to avoid annihilation at the hands of the Turks.
00:23:39.000 Meanwhile, ISIS fighters are being freed because there's no one there to watch them because no one frankly cares about the ISIS fighters except for the United States.
00:23:46.000 It is a disaster area.
00:23:47.000 Now all of this, all of this, this entire phone call was apparently pre-sage by a letter that President Trump sent to Erdogan on October 9th, about a week before this phone call.
00:23:58.000 And I have to read you this letter because...
00:24:01.000 I mean, if you love Trump, this is what makes you love Trump.
00:24:04.000 If you are lukewarm on Trump, then yeeeeee.
00:24:07.000 A lot of cringing in this lesson.
00:24:08.000 Here it is.
00:24:09.000 Dear Mr. President, this is from Trump to Erdogan.
00:24:11.000 Let's work out a good deal!
00:24:14.000 You don't want to be responsible for slaughtering thousands of people, and I don't want to be responsible for destroying the Turkish economy.
00:24:20.000 And I will.
00:24:21.000 I've already given you a little sample with respect to Pastor Brunson.
00:24:24.000 I have worked hard to solve some of your problems.
00:24:26.000 Don't let the world down.
00:24:28.000 You can make a great deal.
00:24:29.000 General Maslam is willing to negotiate with you, and he is willing to make concessions that they would never have made in the past.
00:24:34.000 I am confidentially enclosing a copy of his letter to me, just received.
00:24:38.000 History will look upon you favorably if you get this done the right and humane way.
00:24:43.000 It will look upon you forever as the devil if good things don't happen.
00:24:46.000 Don't be a tough guy.
00:24:47.000 Don't be a fool.
00:24:49.000 I will call you later.
00:24:50.000 Sincerely, Donald Trump.
00:24:53.000 That's a lot.
00:24:57.000 Um, yeah.
00:24:59.000 What?
00:25:00.000 No, what?
00:25:01.000 Now, presumably, Trump released this letter.
00:25:04.000 He sent it to Trish Regan.
00:25:05.000 So, presumably, he sent this letter to Trish Regan because he thought it made him look good.
00:25:08.000 It made him look tough on Erdogan, except that he issued all of these empty, bloviating threats, and then he immediately pulled out, and Erdogan just ran right over the guards.
00:25:16.000 I mean, that is... Let's work out a good deal.
00:25:18.000 Don't be a tough guy.
00:25:19.000 Don't be a fool.
00:25:20.000 I will call you later.
00:25:22.000 What?
00:25:24.000 I got nothing.
00:25:25.000 Also, why is he forwarding letters from people that they don't want forwarded?
00:25:27.000 Like, he's literally taking a letter from the Kurds and he's forwarding it to the Turks without the permission of the Kurds, presumably.
00:25:34.000 That's not a good look.
00:25:36.000 Well, all of this resulted in a blow-up at the White House yesterday because the Democrats showed up at the White House and they had this meeting.
00:25:45.000 They accused Trump of a meltdown.
00:25:47.000 Trump accused them of a meltdown.
00:25:48.000 So we have dueling meltdown.
00:25:50.000 We have dueling meltdown statements here.
00:25:53.000 Democratic congressional leaders, according to CNBC.com, said they walked out of a White House meeting Wednesday on Syria after what House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called a meltdown.
00:26:02.000 After top Democrats left the bipartisan meeting with Trump, Pelosi told reporters the president appeared shaken up by a House vote condemning his decision to remove U.S. forces from northern Syria.
00:26:11.000 That's why we couldn't continue in the meeting because he was just not relating to the reality of it, Pelosi said outside the White House.
00:26:17.000 Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer described the meeting as more of a nasty diatribe than a dialogue.
00:26:22.000 He said that Trump called Pelosi a third-grade politician, though Pelosi later clarified the president used the term third-grade politician.
00:26:29.000 House Majority Leader, just anywhere, Democrat of Maryland, added he had never seen a president treat so disrespectfully a co-equal branch of government.
00:26:39.000 Well, I mean, Barack Obama used to do that pretty routinely, but not like calling people third-grade politicians or third-grade politicians or any of that.
00:26:46.000 Barack Obama just used to basically call his political opponents Tea Party terrorists.
00:26:50.000 In any case, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, A Republican who voted for the House measure to oppose pulling out of northern Syria told reporters that Pelosi stormed out of the meeting.
00:26:58.000 He called her behavior unbecoming and argued that Pelosi tried to make the gathering unproductive.
00:27:03.000 The White House declined to comment on Trump's third-rate politician comment.
00:27:07.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure that James Mattis doesn't have to prove his bona fides in the toughness category.
00:27:11.000 day, Schumer brought up former Defense Secretary James Mattis' recent comment that ISIS will resurge in Syria.
00:27:17.000 Trump then called the former U.S. Marine Corps general, quote, the world's most overrated general, saying he wasn't tough enough, according to NBC.
00:27:25.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure that James Mattis doesn't have to prove his bona fides in the toughness category.
00:27:31.000 Schumer urged the Senate to take up the resolution as well.
00:27:37.000 President Trump also then tweeted out about the Democrats.
00:27:41.000 So he tweeted a picture of Nancy Pelosi standing there and lecturing him.
00:27:46.000 And he tweeted out, nervous Nancy's unhinged meltdown.
00:27:50.000 And then he tweeted another picture of Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and Steine Hoyer all looking shell-shocked.
00:27:57.000 And he tweeted out, do you think they like me?
00:28:00.000 I mean, just...
00:28:03.000 Top-notch trollery by the President of the United States.
00:28:05.000 He also called Nancy Pelosi sick after all of this.
00:28:08.000 He said, Nancy Pelosi needs help fast.
00:28:10.000 There's either something wrong with her upstairs, or she just plain doesn't like our great country.
00:28:15.000 She had a total meltdown at the White House today.
00:28:18.000 It was very sad to watch.
00:28:19.000 Pray for her.
00:28:20.000 She's a very sick person.
00:28:21.000 I don't believe that President Trump is going to pray for Nancy Pelosi.
00:28:26.000 I'm just going to put that out there.
00:28:27.000 I don't actually think that President Trump is going to get on his knees and pray to God for the health of Nancy Pelosi tonight.
00:28:33.000 Pray for her.
00:28:34.000 She's a very sick person.
00:28:35.000 Okay, so everything is going great, guys.
00:28:37.000 Everything is going spectacularly.
00:28:39.000 President Trump had some comments about Turkey as well.
00:28:42.000 He said yesterday in a press conference that the invasion of northern Syria by the Turks has nothing to do with us.
00:28:48.000 Here was President Trump commenting on all of this.
00:28:51.000 Our soldiers are not in harm's way, as they shouldn't be, as two countries fight over land.
00:28:56.000 That has nothing to do with us.
00:28:58.000 And the Kurds are much safer right now, but the Kurds know how to fight.
00:29:04.000 And as I said, they're not angels.
00:29:06.000 They're not angels.
00:29:07.000 Take a look.
00:29:08.000 You have to go back and take a look.
00:29:10.000 But they fought with us.
00:29:11.000 We paid a lot of money for them to fight with us, and that's okay.
00:29:15.000 They did well when they fought with us.
00:29:17.000 They didn't do so well when they didn't fight with us.
00:29:19.000 Yes, that is the point.
00:29:21.000 That if we left our soldiers there, they wouldn't be getting slaughtered.
00:29:24.000 And then Trump came out and he said that the PKK, which is a communistic Kurdish terror group that is on Turkey's border, is worse than ISIS.
00:29:30.000 Now, they may be bad.
00:29:31.000 They are not, in fact, worse than ISIS.
00:29:33.000 That is simply not true.
00:29:34.000 Here is Trump.
00:29:35.000 What does that have to do with the United States of America if they're fighting over Syria's land?
00:29:39.000 Are we supposed to fight a NATO member in order that Syria, who is not our friend, keeps their land?
00:29:45.000 I don't think so.
00:29:46.000 But Syria does have a relationship with the Kurds.
00:29:49.000 The thing that's common is that everybody hates ISIS.
00:29:52.000 Now the PKK, which is a part of the Kurds, as you know, is probably worse a terror and more of a terrorist threat in many ways than ISIS.
00:30:04.000 So it's a very semi-complicated, not too complicated if you're smart, but it's a semi-complicated problem.
00:30:12.000 You gotta love the parentheticals.
00:30:13.000 It's a semi-complicated, not too complicated if you're smart.
00:30:16.000 But, like, like me, but, okay.
00:30:19.000 These are, these are talking points.
00:30:21.000 These are talking points from error to one.
00:30:24.000 It is that simple.
00:30:25.000 Lindsey Graham makes that clear.
00:30:27.000 These talking points about the PKK, we got nothing to do here.
00:30:29.000 The Kurds should be grateful to us that we were ever involved with them.
00:30:33.000 It's bad foreign policy.
00:30:34.000 Again, a majority of the Republican caucus in the House just voted to condemn Trump over it.
00:30:38.000 Lindsey Graham put out a statement talking about President Trump's Syria remarks.
00:30:43.000 He said, Well, this of course prompted President Trump to then fire on Lindsey Graham.
00:30:45.000 radical Islam, ISIS will reemerge, and Iran's rise in Syria will become a nightmare for Israel.
00:30:49.000 I fear this is a complete and utter national security disaster in the making, and I hope President Trump will adjust his thinking.
00:30:55.000 Well, this, of course, prompted President Trump to then fire on Lindsey Graham, and he told Lindsey Graham to stick to judges.
00:31:00.000 It's just, it's a bad policy decision, it's a bad move by President Trump, and now he's doubling down on it, which is an even worse move.
00:31:09.000 Okay, well, all of this would be bad news for Trump, except for the fact that the Democratic field is a complete mess.
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00:33:46.000 So President Trump does have some systemic advantages going into 2020.
00:33:50.000 Thomas Edsel, who always writes interesting stuff over the New York Times, he has a piece today called Trump is winning the online war.
00:33:57.000 He says the technical superiority and sophistication of the president's digital campaign is a hidden advantage of incumbency.
00:34:03.000 Under the management of Brad Parscale, the Trump re-elect machine has devoted millions more than any individual Democrat to increasingly sophisticated micro-targeting techniques.
00:34:11.000 The accompanying chart compiled by the Wesleyan Media Project describes the partisan gulf in political spending through September 19th on Facebook and Google by leading presidential candidates.
00:34:20.000 Trump's $16 million is more than the $15.5 million spent by the top three Democratic candidates combined.
00:34:26.000 By the way, the top spender in terms of online media, Tom Steyer, who spent $6.6 million.
00:34:31.000 So that is money that he just flushed directly down the toilet.
00:34:35.000 These figures substantially understate how far Democrats are behind.
00:34:38.000 Trump's operatives have been working since 2016 to develop and test techniques to identify voters, determine message effectiveness, and develop tools of electronic communication.
00:34:46.000 Daniel Kreis is a professor at University of North Carolina Chapel Hill School of Journalism and Mass Communication.
00:34:52.000 He said the fact is that Trump is an incumbent without a significant primary challenger.
00:34:55.000 That means that he and his team and the Republican National Committee have had three years to build tools, collect data, test models and messaging, and mobilize supporters.
00:35:04.000 The political director of the AFL-CIO, Michael Podhorser, is deeply worried that Democrats have fallen behind.
00:35:11.000 Apparently, the Republican Party has developed some technology called mobile advertising IDs, and the use of mobile advertising IDs that allow political campaigns to basically track the unique identifiers of voters' phones, and then connect the information known about the voter to messaging that they would like to see.
00:35:30.000 All of this means that Trump does have some endemic qualities here that are going to help him going into 2020.
00:35:38.000 The thing that's going to help him the most is the fact that the Democratic field is exceedingly weak.
00:35:44.000 Now, Elizabeth Warren is the purported frontrunner in this race.
00:35:47.000 Joe Biden went at her hammer and tongs yesterday after the debate.
00:35:50.000 So the debate happens, and Biden knocks her, and Buttigieg knocks her, and Klobuchar knocks her, and all of them knock her for good reason.
00:35:56.000 Joe Biden went after her hard yesterday.
00:35:58.000 Here was Joe Biden going after both Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, saying that they are trying to con people, which of course is true.
00:36:04.000 I don't want to pick on Elizabeth Warren, but this is ridiculous.
00:36:08.000 Absolutely ridiculous.
00:36:09.000 The idea that someone is going to be able to go out and spend what's going to come out to about $3.4 trillion a year.
00:36:19.000 But Bernie, Bernie doesn't play for half his plan.
00:36:22.000 The last thing the Democrats should be doing is playing Trump's game.
00:36:27.000 I'm trying to con the American people to think this is easy.
00:36:31.000 There's nothing easy about it.
00:36:33.000 Okay, well, that is a rational statement that Joe Biden is making.
00:36:36.000 And normally you'd think, oh, that rational guy with the big name ID, why isn't he doing better?
00:36:40.000 Well, probably because Joe Biden still can't answer the questions about Ukraine.
00:36:44.000 And his son Joe Biden said yesterday that he never discussed Ukraine with his son.
00:36:49.000 His son Hunter has said the opposite.
00:36:51.000 He said that at least once they did have a conversation about his involvement in Ukraine.
00:36:54.000 Here was Joe Biden talking about this.
00:36:56.000 I never discussed with my son anything having to do with what was going on in Ukraine.
00:37:02.000 That's a fact.
00:37:03.000 And if I'm not mistaken, and I did not coordinate any of this with my son.
00:37:07.000 I didn't even know he was having these long discussions for some time with ABC.
00:37:12.000 But he pointed out the reason why he regrets it is he didn't anticipate that thugs like Giuliani would use it to, in fact, try to embarrass his father.
00:37:22.000 And that's what they are.
00:37:23.000 They're flat thugs.
00:37:25.000 And the reason why I am setting up the idea that I've laid out has nothing to do with Hunter.
00:37:31.000 Okay, well, the idea that he has laid out, by the way, and that makes things awkward for him, is that relatives of presidential candidates and people who are in powers, in office, in public office, that their relatives shouldn't benefit from foreign connections like this.
00:37:44.000 Yeah, that's kind of awkward, because your son did.
00:37:46.000 In any case, Biden is weak.
00:37:48.000 Buttigieg went after Warren, too.
00:37:49.000 Buttigieg is experiencing a little bit of a media boomlet again after the last debate performance because Buttigieg appeared to be more rational than Elizabeth Warren.
00:37:58.000 Warren, again, yesterday I talked about on the show, she kept throwing out all sorts of radical plans and then having no way of defending them.
00:38:06.000 Buttigieg just dumped all over her yesterday on the national media.
00:38:10.000 It was pretty amazing.
00:38:11.000 Not only is it important to have yes or no answers to yes or no questions at a time when people are so frustrated with Washington speak, but also there's still been no explanation for a multi-trillion dollar hole in this plan.
00:38:25.000 I have a lot of respect for Senator Warren, but last night she was more specific and forthcoming about the number of selfies she's taken than about how this plan is going to be funded.
00:38:35.000 And that's a real problem, especially when there's a better way to deliver health care coverage to everybody.
00:38:40.000 Okay, Buttigieg is getting a lot of plaudits again.
00:38:43.000 The media are taking a second look at Buttigieg.
00:38:44.000 Once you start seeing people doing, why not second look at X?
00:38:47.000 You know the field is weak.
00:38:49.000 I remember in 2012 there was this thing that happened inside the Republican field where everybody sort of took a first look at candidates like Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum and they were like, And then they came around to Romney and there was like, how about a second look at Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum?
00:39:05.000 And by the time the primaries were over, it was pretty obvious that Mitt Romney was not world's strongest candidate.
00:39:10.000 Well, Democrats are starting to have exactly those same sort of stomach churning, pepto bismal needing feelings right now because the stomach acid has to be given them some sort of ulcer looking at this field.
00:39:20.000 The budding impression of Elizabeth Warren is that she's dishonest.
00:39:20.000 It's really bad.
00:39:24.000 And that is a huge problem for her because her core pitch is that she is more honest than President Trump.
00:39:29.000 She's going to stand up for you.
00:39:31.000 She's a populist.
00:39:32.000 She's going to stand up for the people.
00:39:33.000 She's not some Ivy League professor who's sort of parachuting in last minute, stealing Bernie's agenda and pretending to care about the people while being worth $10 million.
00:39:41.000 No, she is a true heart-of-the-people lady.
00:39:45.000 This is a woman who really understands the problems of down-home folks, right?
00:39:50.000 That is Elizabeth Warren's pitch.
00:39:51.000 There's only one problem.
00:39:52.000 It now turns out that she lies about everything.
00:39:54.000 Like, about everything.
00:39:55.000 So she lies about her Medicare-for-all plan, at least Sanders is honest.
00:39:58.000 And she has now gone back and deleted her tweet about Native American DNA.
00:40:02.000 So there was a post made one year ago Tuesday.
00:40:04.000 It had over 56,000 likes and it read, My family, including Fox News watchers, sat together and talked about what they think of Donald Trump's attacks on our heritage.
00:40:12.000 And yes, a famous geneticist analyzed my DNA and concluded that it contains Native American ancestry.
00:40:17.000 Yeah, it turned out not so much.
00:40:21.000 I love that.
00:40:22.000 Attacks on our heritage.
00:40:24.000 On our heritage.
00:40:25.000 One year ago, she was still claiming she was Native American.
00:40:28.000 After she had the results of a test that said she was 1,024th Native American.
00:40:30.000 Maximum.
00:40:31.000 Maximum.
00:40:35.000 That's amazing.
00:40:36.000 So she's gone back and she's deleted that now.
00:40:38.000 Why?
00:40:38.000 Because she's a damn liar.
00:40:39.000 Not only is she a liar on that, she also lies on, it turns out, like, kind of everything.
00:40:44.000 It turns out that she's wildly dishonest.
00:40:46.000 So here is an example.
00:40:47.000 Yesterday, she was on CNN, and she started talking about how taxes, she refused to admit that taxes would go up.
00:40:56.000 She said that Medicare for All would reduce costs for middle class families, which is actually not true.
00:41:01.000 And then, She told the story of a guy who she says was refused insurance or was dumped from his insurance after he was diagnosed with MS.
00:41:09.000 Here's the story she told and then I'll tell you what the actual story is.
00:41:11.000 I had a young man stand up at a town hall and explain that he'd been diagnosed with MS and his insurance company refused to pay for one of his treatments.
00:41:23.000 He'd started down the treatment line and his explanation of it was that here he was, he had insurance, he fights with his insurance company, No, no, no, no, no.
00:41:34.000 Until he finally ends up in the public system.
00:41:37.000 But understand this.
00:41:38.000 He described it as, I have now a lesion in my brain.
00:41:42.000 Okay, there's one problem with this.
00:41:43.000 Tommy Christopher points out that we actually have tape of the guy talking.
00:41:46.000 And his story is basically the opposite of the story that she was telling.
00:41:50.000 His name was Dylan, and he said this, quote, you say that you support Medicare for all, which does have a transition through to get everyone covered on that.
00:41:56.000 However, I am sorry.
00:41:57.000 I'm someone who really relies on my health insurance a lot more than most people.
00:42:00.000 I live with an invisible illness, multiple sclerosis.
00:42:02.000 I've been denied disability, basically, because in their words, they don't think I'm disabled enough.
00:42:06.000 Because of this, I basically have to constantly fight to keep my health insurance.
00:42:10.000 Over the summer, I was kicked off, not my mistake, but I had to pay for it.
00:42:13.000 In about three months of me trying to get my insurance back, I was delayed from my disease-modified therapy, which now resulted in a new centimeter-sized lesion that's gonna follow me for life because someone tried to save a few bucks.
00:42:22.000 So my question is, during the transition, it says over the first year, people with disabilities will be covered.
00:42:26.000 Will it be easier than the current disability standards and basically make it easier?
00:42:30.000 So that is a lot more complicated, as Tommy Christopher over at Mediaite points out, than insurance companies bad.
00:42:36.000 That's not exactly what happened.
00:42:39.000 He says that insurance companies frequently are, and while Dylan didn't go into detail about the reason for the lapse, it sounds like that could have been the case here.
00:42:49.000 Maybe it was a paperwork snafu or a dispute over payment.
00:42:52.000 He says it wasn't because of his condition.
00:42:54.000 That's illegal.
00:42:56.000 Right?
00:42:56.000 Obamacare makes it illegal to kick you off because of your condition.
00:42:58.000 She says that he was kicked off because of his condition.
00:43:00.000 No, his insurance lapped because he was unemployed.
00:43:04.000 And by the way, Medicare is, as Tommy Christopher, I am shocked Tommy Christopher wrote something this rational, he says that Medicare is just as devoted to saving money as insurance companies and denies claims at a higher rate than private insurers.
00:43:16.000 It was the government that tried to save a few bucks by denying Dylan's disability in the first place.
00:43:21.000 This, of course, is exactly right, but Elizabeth Warren fibs a lot.
00:43:24.000 The good news is she has her defenders who will defend her no matter what.
00:43:27.000 One journalism professor actually tweeted out that we need to stop asking her about her tax increases.
00:43:32.000 Because journalism-ing.
00:43:33.000 Intense levels of journalism.
00:43:35.000 Jay Rosen, journalism-ing professor over at NYU, he says, to make Elizabeth Warren say she would raise taxes on a middle-class question should be a credibility killer for the journalists who keep asking it.
00:43:46.000 Isn't that like a very, very obvious question that she refuses to answer?
00:43:46.000 Why?
00:43:50.000 This field is weak.
00:43:52.000 It is weak.
00:43:52.000 And meanwhile, the most humorous development of the entire political day, Barack Obama has finally weighed in with an endorsement in Canada.
00:44:01.000 If you're Joe Biden, you're like, oh my god, Barack, oh, oh.
00:44:01.000 In Canada.
00:44:06.000 Barack's like, Joe, I'm not gonna endorse you.
00:44:08.000 I told you not to run.
00:44:10.000 Everybody knows you're bad at this.
00:44:10.000 Everybody knows you're old.
00:44:12.000 I told you, over and over.
00:44:13.000 I'm going to endorse another black man, Justin Trudeau.
00:44:17.000 Oh no, that's just Justin Trudeau in blackface, sorry.
00:44:19.000 In any case, he has now waded into the Canadian election.
00:44:23.000 By the way, no foreign interference in elections unless Barack Obama is endorsing Benjamin Netanyahu's opponents in Israel or Justin Trudeau in Canada.
00:44:30.000 Otherwise, no involvement.
00:44:32.000 Oh, he also endorsed, by the way, Emmanuel Macron in France.
00:44:34.000 He goes around endorsing various political candidates in other countries, but he won't endorse Joe Biden.
00:44:40.000 Joe Biden is the saddest man in politics today.
00:44:46.000 It's well-deserved.
00:44:47.000 He spent the last eight years basically massaging Barack Obama's shoulders and telling him how wonderful he was, and Barack Obama's like, I've got a big announcement today, got a big endorsement, and a big 2020 race.
00:44:59.000 Justin Trudeau!
00:45:00.000 There it is, Justin Trudeau.
00:45:03.000 Okay, time for a quick thing I like and then a quick thing that I hate.
00:45:03.000 Ouch.
00:45:06.000 So things that I like.
00:45:07.000 So yesterday, amazing experience and eye-opening experience.
00:45:12.000 My family and I traveled over to Hebron, Hebron in English.
00:45:17.000 And this is the oldest biblical site.
00:45:20.000 Present.
00:45:21.000 It is the site where Abraham bought land for the grave of his wife, Sarah, at Marat HaMachpelah, also known as the Cave of the Patriarchs.
00:45:28.000 It really should be called the Caves of the Patriarchs and the Matriarchs, considering that buried at this site, according to Jewish tradition, and now according to Muslim and Christian tradition as well, are Abraham and Sarah, Isaac and Rebekah, and Jacob and Leah.
00:45:44.000 Rachel is buried on the road because she died on the road to Hebron.
00:45:47.000 In any case, here is a picture.
00:45:49.000 I was here yesterday.
00:45:50.000 It is a... It is... Hebron is a massive Palestinian city in terms of the population.
00:45:56.000 It's about 215,000 Palestinians.
00:45:58.000 About 160,000 of those Palestinians live under what is called Area C rule, which would be the areas that are governed by the Palestinian authority, which means that if you are a Jew and you walk in those areas, you will be killed.
00:46:10.000 I mean, there are giant red signs on the side of the road that say, if you are an Israeli citizen, do not walk into the city.
00:46:16.000 Really, do not.
00:46:16.000 Like, literally, you will be killed.
00:46:18.000 And I asked my security guys, who are Former Israeli military.
00:46:21.000 And they say, yeah, it's not like Israeli-Arab villages where if you wander in there, no big deal, right?
00:46:25.000 It's just an Israeli-Arab village.
00:46:27.000 If you walk into Palestinian-governed areas and you're a Jew, you will be pulled out of your car, you will be murdered, probably.
00:46:31.000 At least there's a very high shot of that.
00:46:33.000 And there's been a lot of violence in this, a lot of terrorism directed against Jews in this particular area.
00:46:39.000 Well, Hebron has been the site of repeated anti-Jewish pogroms over the years.
00:46:43.000 In 1929 it famously was the site of a massive anti-Jewish pogrom that basically wiped out the Jewish population of Hebron.
00:46:49.000 Now there are about a thousand Jews who live there.
00:46:51.000 They live under Israeli protection.
00:46:54.000 The specific area in which they live is About 30,000 Arab-Palestinians who are living around them.
00:47:01.000 There are a bunch of Israeli bases on the hills to protect the Jews from being sniped upon because that's what was happening.
00:47:07.000 The Arabs were sitting up on top of the hills and sniping at the Jews and so the Israeli government had to come in and set up these bases.
00:47:13.000 Look.
00:47:14.000 The people in Hebron, if they could live in an open city, and not in this tiny little ghetto in the middle of Hebron, you think they wouldn't?
00:47:20.000 You think they wouldn't?
00:47:21.000 You think they wouldn't like to interact with their Arab neighbors?
00:47:23.000 And in fact, some of their Arab neighbors, tribal leaders who are not under the governance of the Palestinian Authority, do interact with them and do events with them.
00:47:29.000 But the fact is that the Israeli government, there's all sorts of myth-making about Hebron.
00:47:33.000 The Israeli government, for literally a one-block stretch that we walked down yesterday, had to shut down some Arab shops specifically because of security concerns.
00:47:41.000 It's one block.
00:47:42.000 It's one block.
00:47:43.000 Hebron is the richest city in the West Bank.
00:47:45.000 It is the richest Arab city in the West Bank.
00:47:48.000 It is the richest Palestinian city.
00:47:49.000 It does about 5 billion shekel in export, nearly all of it to the state of Israel, who they supposedly hate and despise.
00:47:57.000 And they have a massive shopping center with like a KFC.
00:47:59.000 They have the entire shopping area that was moved from this one street in Hebron was moved like one block over.
00:48:05.000 Okay, so the media covered this apartheid state, apartheid state.
00:48:08.000 Really?
00:48:09.000 The Jews would be willing to live just fine with the Arabs.
00:48:11.000 It is the Jews Being killed by the Arabs, that is the problem, right?
00:48:15.000 It is the fact that every time there is no Israeli protection there, Jews end up getting slaughtered there.
00:48:19.000 That happens to be the problem.
00:48:20.000 Also, it is worth noting that this site, which is the second holiest site in Judaism, right?
00:48:24.000 The holiest site is the Temple Mount.
00:48:25.000 The second holiest site is the Cave of the Patriarchs, Mount Atah Machpelah.
00:48:29.000 When the Muslims were in charge of it from 1267 to about 1967, when the Jews freed it in the Six-Day War, when they liberated it in the Six-Day War, for 700 years, Jews were not allowed to enter the holy site.
00:48:40.000 For 700 years.
00:48:41.000 Even after that happened, even after the Jews took over, Hebron.
00:48:46.000 Even after the Jews took over Ma'ar HaMachpelah, they still allowed the Muslims to basically retain almost sole control of the larger part of Ma'ar HaMachpelah, this nearly 4,000-year-old site.
00:48:58.000 The site is split sort of 80-20 between the Arabs and the Jews.
00:49:01.000 The Jews have like a small little synagogue, and the Arabs... I mean, it's kind of amazing.
00:49:06.000 The Muslims actually have control of the area of Ma'ar HaMachpelah that houses Isaac and Rebekah.
00:49:12.000 Which makes absolutely no sense, because in the Koran, Isaac and Rebekah are not important.
00:49:15.000 Right?
00:49:16.000 In the Koran, Ishmael is important.
00:49:18.000 Isaac and Rebekah are not important at all.
00:49:20.000 But the Muslims get the bigger area there because it's the bigger area.
00:49:23.000 The Jews are relegated to the smaller area with the graves of Abraham and Sarah and Jacob and Leah.
00:49:28.000 In any case, it's an incredible experience.
00:49:32.000 You see what the people who are living there are undergoing.
00:49:36.000 For those who don't understand the conflict, it's sort of necessary to go there and to understand also the thriving nature of the economy that is not in the immediate area.
00:49:43.000 What you usually see is left-wing NGOs who walk down the street and say, why aren't there any Arabs here?
00:49:48.000 Why aren't there any Arabs allowed in here?
00:49:51.000 It's like, well, because when they, when the Arab shops were open right there, and by the way, there are Arabs who live, like, right there.
00:49:56.000 They said when, when the Arabs had shops there, there were routine attacks on Jews.
00:50:01.000 Here's a question.
00:50:02.000 Why in the other parts of Hebron, among the other 215,000 Palestinians, are there no Jews who live there?
00:50:08.000 Like, none?
00:50:08.000 Why is it that the entire Palestinian-ruled area is entirely Judenrein?
00:50:12.000 Nazi-like Judenrein.
00:50:14.000 Why?
00:50:15.000 Why is it that 20% of the population of Israel is Arab and Muslim, and why is it that 0% of the population of the Palestinian Authority-run areas is Jewish?
00:50:22.000 That is not because the Jews are not interested in living in places like Hebron.
00:50:26.000 It's because the Jews will be murdered if they live there.
00:50:29.000 Yeah, that's why they have giant red signs that say, if you go here and you're an Israeli citizen, there's a high likelihood you will die.
00:50:35.000 Okay?
00:50:36.000 It's pretty incredible stuff.
00:50:38.000 It is an incredibly holy site.
00:50:40.000 There's a lot of joy from the thousands of people come in every year.
00:50:43.000 Around this time of year, there's ten days in which the Muslims get full control of the Cave of the Patriarchs.
00:50:48.000 There are ten days in which the Jews get full control of the Cave of the Patriarchs.
00:50:51.000 Yesterday was one of those days.
00:50:52.000 They had a big concert outside.
00:50:53.000 It was pretty amazing.
00:50:54.000 Every year, around the biblical reading of Chayi Sarah, which is the portion of the Bible, In which Sarah dies and Abraham buys that specific plot where this is, again, 4,000 years ago, which is unbelievable, that about 50,000 Jews come and actually, like, they'll stay in their cars because there's no space.
00:51:11.000 There's literally no space.
00:51:12.000 It's like a three-square block area.
00:51:14.000 There's no space at all.
00:51:15.000 They will literally come and they will disconnect the battery in their car so they're not violating the Sabbath, and they will sleep in their car so that they can stay in the area for Chayesarah.
00:51:24.000 It's a pretty amazing experience, and Until you have actually walked it and been there.
00:51:30.000 And by the way, Palestinian tour guides will not take you to the prosperous areas of Hebron.
00:51:33.000 What they like to suggest is that this 1,000 small area of Jews, that that is what's keeping the area poor.
00:51:39.000 The area is not poor.
00:51:40.000 Hebron, again, is a very wealthy city by Palestinian-Arab standards.
00:51:43.000 They won't take you to the actual wealthy areas of Hebron because that would give the lie to the whole thing.
00:51:48.000 In any case, It's necessary to see this to understand the nature of the conflict, to understand the historic nature of the conflict, and to understand that the historic center of the Jewish people, which predates Islam by approximately 3,000 years, is here, right, is in Hebron, and yet the Palestinians, who basically run the UN World Heritage Organization, the World Heritage Commission declared this historic site a Palestinian historic site.
00:52:16.000 A Palestinian historic, not a Jewish historic site.
00:52:19.000 And they've tried to do the same thing to the Temple Mount.
00:52:21.000 Obviously, the Obama administration was helpful in that latter area.
00:52:26.000 To misunderstand the history that badly takes a certain level of skill and or antisemitism or both.
00:52:32.000 Alrighty, you know, we'll skip things I hate today because that is both a thing I like and a thing I hate, I think.
00:52:36.000 And we will be back here a little bit later today for two additional hours of content.
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