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00:00:52.000But this is President Trump's favorite thing to do.
00:00:54.000Apparently it does get under Michael Bloomberg's skin.
00:00:56.000Maggie Haberman of the New York Times reported that actually Michael Bloomberg, believe it or not, lied on his driver's license at one point about his own height, which is never a particularly good look.
00:01:06.000But President Trump, yesterday he tweeted out, Mini Mike Bloomberg is a loser who has money but can't debate and has zero presence, you will see.
00:01:14.000He reminds me of a tiny version of Jeb Low Energy Bush.
00:01:17.000I love that Jeb is just standing over here in the corner like, what did I do, man?
00:01:25.000Jeb Bush is just the guy who's jogging along the street and Trump just opens that passenger side door as he's driving along the street and bam, just smacks Jeb for no reason.
00:01:35.000He reminds me of a tiny version of Jeb Low Energy Bush, but Jeb has more political skill and has treated the black community much better than many, which is his new name for Michael Bloomberg as he calls him many.
00:01:45.000This prompted Michael Bloomberg to come back at President Trump.
00:01:50.000Actually, President Trump had a follow-up tweet to that.
00:02:54.000Again, all of this is childish crap, obviously.
00:02:56.000But Trump does see Bloomberg as sort of his lead rival at the moment.
00:03:01.000And the fact that he is and the fact that Bloomberg is willing to spend as much money as it takes in order to do some damage is Is something that has the Trump team at least awake nights.
00:03:12.000Okay, in a second we're going to get to everything Bernie Sanders related because there is some Bernie Sanders news.
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00:04:38.000Right now, the latest poll still is from January 11th, which is not going to reflect reality.
00:04:44.000The widespread sort of wisdom, conventional wisdom, is that Bernie is leading in Nevada, which would make a lot of sense.
00:04:50.000But there was a major union, the Culinary Union, yesterday that came out and bashed Bernie.
00:04:54.000Amy Klobuchar is now spending some money in the state.
00:04:56.000A surprise win by Amy Klobuchar could really throw a wrench into things, for example, because now you would have a real split in the moderate lane.
00:05:03.000If Pete Buttigieg were to win Nevada, then he would presumably be seen As sort of the frontrunner outside of Bloomberg for that moderate leadership.
00:05:10.000In the national polling average, however, Bernie Sanders has now pulled ahead.
00:05:13.000So Bernie is about, in the betting odds, a 41% favorite in the betting odds.
00:05:17.000Michael Bloomberg is standing at second at 28.6, Buttigieg at 15.1, and Biden has fallen all the way down into single digits in the betting markets at 9.2%.
00:05:27.000Over at 538, to give you the update over there, on their estimates for who is going to take the nomination, Right now, Bernie has about a 1-in-3 shot of winning the nomination.
00:05:35.000I guess they just updated this, so a 2-in-5 shot, about a 38% chance of winning the nomination.
00:05:42.000Second is that they go into the convention without anyone having won a majority of the delegates.
00:05:46.000Again, that is a significant possibility given the fact that most of the Democratic primaries, if not all of them, are split by proportional representation.
00:05:52.000So that means that Bernie could win a state and he doesn't take all the delegates.
00:05:55.000Like for example, right now, Pete Buttigieg actually has the delegate lead on Bernie, because he won one more delegate than Bernie did in Iowa, and they tied in New Hampshire in terms of the delegates.
00:06:03.000Joe Biden, in that 538 estimate, still has about a 1-in-6 shot of winning a majority of delegates.
00:06:08.000Bloomberg is down at 1-in-30, but he's the one who's been rising fast.
00:06:11.000The reason that he's not higher is because he's skipping so many of the early primaries.
00:06:15.000Okay, so Bernie, right now, he is the frontrunner, and the media just refused to accept this.
00:07:12.000There's nothing I like better than than Democrats who dropped the I'm not in no ways tired line.
00:07:16.000You remember Hillary Clinton did this back when she was in the Senate in New York and she was running for the presidency.
00:07:21.000She went to a southern black church and she started dropping into an inflected accent in order to draw particular support from the black community.
00:07:31.000It's always weird when people like Joe Biden do that.
00:07:34.000And that means that Bernie, who's the only other person in the race with significant name recognition, except for Bloomberg, who again, is not getting in until March 3rd, right?
00:07:41.000I mean, the Super Tuesday states in which Bloomberg is actually competing aren't coming for another three weeks.
00:07:47.000Okay, with all of that said, this means that Bernie is the front runner and the media just refused to accept it.
00:07:51.000So they cannot handle the idea that this octogenarian socialist is actually the leader of the Democratic Party.
00:07:57.000So Chuck Todd, last night, he was talking about New Hampshire winners and the national poll leadership, and he said, I don't see Bernie as the frontrunner.
00:08:07.000Like, sure, he's won the first two states, and sure, he is favored to win Nevada, and sure, he's pulling second in South Carolina and has the most money, and sure, he has the national poll lead, but is he really the frontrunner, or do we just have no frontrunner?
00:08:17.000Some wishful thinking here from Chuck Todd.
00:08:19.000I don't know why some people, I feel like the only people that are going out on the limb and calling Bernie Sanders a frontrunner, they have other reasons to call him a frontrunner.
00:08:26.000Feels like there's no frontrunner right now.
00:09:20.000But the big winner is the guy who won.
00:09:22.000I mean, can we be real about this for a second?
00:09:23.000The guy who won would be the big winner.
00:09:25.000But here's Jim Messina saying, well, maybe the big winner is Michael Bloomberg.
00:09:29.000Okay, Michael Bloomberg did have a good night in New Hampshire because the more confused the race is, the more the guy with all the cash standing in the background matters a lot.
00:09:36.000He, again, is rising in the national polling data.
00:09:38.000But, with that said, it's pretty obvious that the big winner from Iowa and New Hampshire would be the guy who actually won the caucuses and then won the primary.
00:09:45.000Here's Jim Messina trying to deny reality.
00:09:48.000The second number that I think people need to watch is, you know, over 55% of voters voted for a moderate candidate.
00:09:54.000They said the most important issue is who can beat Donald Trump.
00:09:57.000And that, if you're looking at that number, the big number, the big winner last night could be Mayor Bloomberg as he gets ready for Battleship Bloomberg and this unbelievable spending that's about to come our way.
00:10:08.000He's sitting back here ready to make a case that he's the best candidate.
00:10:12.000So we are in early days and it's going to be very interesting moving forward.
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00:11:42.000Alrighty, so in just one second, so let's get to these scenarios unspooling in the Democratic primary.
00:11:47.000So, as I say, it is quite possible that no one goes into the convention with a majority of the delegates.
00:11:52.000In fact, right now, as I say, 538 has that as the second most likely scenario after Bernie going in with a majority of the delegates.
00:11:58.000So let's say that Bernie goes in with a plurality of the delegates, but let's say that he's been losing a lot of the recent primaries.
00:12:04.000Let's say by the time we get to the end of the race, the momentum is with Michael Bloomberg.
00:12:09.000Let's say, for example, that Michael Bloomberg now has the national polling lead over Bernie Sanders, and that he is polling better in national head-to-head matchups against President Trump.
00:12:18.000And let's say that he very narrowly trails Bernie Sanders in terms of plurality of delegates.
00:12:24.000And the problem is that because Bernie is a radical and because Bernie's people don't care about the Democratic Party, right?
00:12:29.000I mean, he brought in a bunch of people who really are not typical Democrats and they've taken over the party.
00:12:34.000He's got the same systemic advantage that Trump had in 2016, which is to say, if they had tried to take the nomination away from Trump, A lot of Trump's voters would have just walked from the Republican Party.
00:12:42.000Bernie could do exactly the same thing and then the Democrats lose.
00:12:45.000So if Bernie walks in with the delegate lead, there's very little shot that he walks out without the delegate lead.
00:12:49.000But what if Bernie finishes a close second?
00:12:51.000What if Bernie finishes a close second in the delegates and nobody actually has a majority?
00:13:01.000And so I'm just not going to back whoever this is or my support will be soft.
00:13:06.000But I'm not going to go further than that.
00:13:09.000And so Bernie does have a lot of weight, simply because, number one, he's doing well, but number two, because he and his supporters are indeed so radical.
00:13:16.000So this is a disaster area for the Democratic Party, because even a competitive Bernie means a real problem for the Democratic Party.
00:13:22.000What they really need is for someone to blow Bernie out, or at least to defeat Bernie so solidly, at least as solidly as Hillary Clinton did, so that he can't complain that he was jobbed out of the nomination.
00:13:32.000Now, there is some conflict in Bernie-land, according to Anthony Leonardi, reporting for the Washington Examiner.
00:13:39.000Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders and the leader of the Squad are reportedly not seeing eye-to-eye on the campaign trail.
00:13:44.000New York Representative AOC is reportedly frustrating the Sanders campaign during her appearances at the Socialist campaign rallies.
00:13:49.000While Sanders was occupied in the Senate during the impeachment trial of Trump, AOC subbed in for him.
00:13:53.000However, she did not mention the candidate by name during a January rally, though she endorsed him last October.
00:13:58.000So she's going around doing the I'm AOC and I'm special routine, and she completely forgets that Bernie is apparently part of this whole thing, like sponsoring her to be on the campaign trail.
00:14:06.000Vanity Fair reported that Sanders' campaign manager, Faiz Shakir, expressed his frustration to AOC's campaign manager over texts, saying her immigration stances were too extreme.
00:14:40.000And so this sort of split is now moving out into the open.
00:14:44.000And Iowa Rallies, she said, organizing is about tipping people off if you start to see that ICE and CBP are in communities to try and keep people safe.
00:14:51.000That is overtly violating the law, right?
00:14:53.000Calling on people to run away from the cops.
00:14:57.000You're now complicit in a criminal act.
00:14:59.000She says, I'm not here to reform some of these systems when we talk about immigration.
00:15:02.000I'm here because Senator Sanders is actually committed to breaking up ICE and CBP.
00:15:07.000By the way, if you think that that doesn't end up in an ad, you are absolutely wrong.
00:15:11.000President Trump runs that ad from now until the election.
00:15:13.000AOC saying that the reason she's endorsing Sanders is because she wants people to avoid law enforcement and because she wants to completely break up both ICE and the CBP, which means effectively no law enforcement on the border.
00:15:26.000Some in the Sanders campaign, according to the Washington Examiner, were reportedly frustrated by AOC's comments discouraging cooperation with federal authorities, saying they were off track of Bernie's stance, which opposes open borders.
00:15:35.000Meanwhile, AOC's team was upset because Sanders accepted comedian Joe Rogan's endorsement.
00:15:40.000Following blowback, Sanders' spokeswoman distanced the campaign from Rogan, but noted the campaign will need a big tent of supporters to defeat President Trump.
00:15:48.000In addition to AOC's endorsement, of course, Sanders is supported by Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib.
00:15:52.000So there's a little bit of trouble in socialist paradise.
00:15:56.000The bigger trouble in socialist paradise is that eventually, eventually, somebody is actually going to look at Bernie Sanders' plans.
00:16:02.000And that's the part where it's going to get real awkward, because so far he's been shielded from that.
00:16:07.000The media keep making this mistake with Democratic candidates.
00:16:09.000They did it with Hillary Clinton, they did it with Joe Biden, and now they're doing it with Bernie.
00:16:11.000And that is, they shield the Democrats from criticism.
00:16:14.000They don't do investigative, like basic investigative tactics.
00:16:18.000They don't ask basic investigative questions of these candidates.
00:16:21.000They go after Republicans hammer and tongs.
00:16:23.000But when it comes to Democrats, when it comes to Hillary, Hillary was off limits.
00:16:26.000And then when Trump hits her with the kitchen sink, it's like, oh my God, where did that come from?
00:16:29.000And the American public are made aware of new information.
00:16:32.000See, when it comes to the economy, I believe it was George Gilder who likened the economy to a phone line, that the economy works best when the phone line is clear, meaning that the rules are predictable, they don't change, there's not a lot of static on the line, there's not a lot of new information that's being added to the static on the line.
00:16:49.000Okay, well, the same thing holds true in a political campaign.
00:16:51.000The best thing in a political campaign is when there's no new information that is added, right?
00:16:55.000This is why Trump has sort of a systemic advantage here, because Trump is a mud monster.
00:16:58.000The more information you add, the less it matters.
00:17:01.000Everybody knows everything about Trump.
00:17:02.000There's not much you can say about Trump that hurts him.
00:17:04.000Okay, but if you're Hillary Clinton and the media have been trying to portray you as clean as the driven snow, pure as the driven snow, and then it turns out you're not, that's gonna hurt you.
00:17:13.000The same thing happened with Joe Biden.
00:17:14.000I think this Hunter Biden thing hurt Joe specifically because the media, even as they reported the Hunter Biden stuff, it was originally reported in the New Yorker, tried to cover for it as not that big a deal.
00:17:23.000And then Trump hit him with the kitchen sink.
00:17:25.000Well, they've done the same thing with Bernie.
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00:20:19.000Well, according to Brian Riedel, his Medicare for All plan, people keep ballparking this thing at $32 trillion.
00:20:25.000First of all, there has never yet been a government program that has come anywhere close to the ballpark figure originally put out for it.
00:20:30.000And when you hear people on the left say things, well, it will save us money over the long haul because people are spending more in the private sector than they're spending in the public sector.
00:20:37.000Well, that's like saying that if you nationalize all of the food distribution in the United States, that you could save money over private food, over how much Americans spend on private food.
00:20:50.000What Americans spend in the private sector compared to the public sector spending money on behalf of Americans is a very different thing because the quality is different, because the choice is different.
00:20:59.000If the government were to give rations to the American people, we could save all sorts of money on the kinds of things that we are spending money on in terms of food in the United States.
00:21:06.000Sure, a lot of restaurants would go out of business.
00:21:08.000Sure, you wouldn't have a lot of choices between Indian food and Thai food tonight.
00:21:12.000Sure, you'd basically just get like a ration kit.
00:21:15.000But we could save all sorts of money, right?
00:21:17.000And then you could classify it as money savings, as monetary savings.
00:21:21.000He says, what we're going to do is we're going to take all the private spending people do on healthcare, and that includes you paying out of pocket to do a surgery that you need quickly so you're not waiting six months in line like you do in Canada.
00:21:31.000That means being able to see a doctor fast.
00:21:33.000It means being able to get drugs on demand.
00:21:35.000It means being able to develop new drugs.
00:21:37.000Bernie's like, it'll be cheaper if we just nationalize it and spend less money on it.
00:21:41.000Literally true of every single commodity in the American private market.
00:21:45.000Seriously true of all of these things.
00:21:46.000Now, I know there are communists out there like, ooh, Ben's finally getting the point.
00:21:49.000No, I'm making the point, if you notice, that the quality of government-run things is garbage-y generally.
00:21:56.000If the government decided that the government was simply going to provide everybody with a 1989 Apple computer, Okay, we'd all save tons of money on tech, wouldn't we?
00:22:06.000You wouldn't be shelling out for that brand new computer, but everybody would have an iMac from 1997.
00:22:10.000I mean, don't you like how it has, like, a blue case back?
00:22:16.000This is what Bernie is proposing, and then he's calling it saving money.
00:22:19.000First of all, the chances are that over time, you're not going to end up saving all that much money, because either what ends up happening is rationing, or you have to increase the amount of the reimbursements that are coming from the government.
00:22:31.000This is why when Bernie says that you're going to have exactly the same level of care, exactly the same doctor through Medicare, that you have through not Medicare, that is not true, which is why Medicare Advantage is a thing that many, many seniors, most seniors, take advantage of.
00:22:40.000They buy additional coverage through Medicare Advantage.
00:22:44.000Medicare for All, when he says it's going to cost $32 trillion over the next 10 years, it ain't.
00:22:49.000It's going to cost $40, says Brian Riedel.
00:23:09.000He wants to cancel all student debt and free college for everyone in the country, which of course is an idiotic idea when we don't actually track people.
00:23:17.000Like if you were going to make the case that you were going to have free college, but that everybody when they are 16 years old tests into a particular sector, and then you go into the most economically efficient sector, at least you can make a case.
00:23:26.000That at that point people aren't going to useless schooling for no reason, right?
00:23:28.000They have this sort of system in many countries in Europe, they have it in Israel.
00:23:31.000If you are making the case that people are going to be able to choose what to major in and that we are supposed to subsidize some middle-upper class white girl to major in lesbian dance theory...
00:23:41.000We're supposed to cover the cost of that.
00:24:24.000As President Reagan once said, government programs are the only guarantee of everlasting life.
00:24:31.000They do not die, they only grow, they never shrink.
00:24:34.000So the total result is $97.5 trillion in new spending, according to Brian Riedel, 70% of the U.S.
00:24:40.000economy on a year-on-year basis spent on government programs, 70% of the entire GDP of the United States every year, 90 trillion bucks added to the national debt, and 50% of the entire workforce employed by the government.
00:24:52.000That sounds perfectly sustainable to me.
00:25:04.000Do you remember the scene where they're all eating air, but they use their imaginations, and then they have a food fight with their imaginations?
00:25:18.000Sure, the pie is fixed and there's not enough pie for everybody, but if you imagine a pie that is larger, then it simply exists in your imagination.
00:25:26.000So here's the problem with all of this.
00:25:28.000Okay, so how do we know how radical Bernie is?
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00:26:55.000Okay, so back to Bernie Sanders and the people who are staffing up the potential Bernie Sanders administration.
00:27:08.000So, there is an article in the Washington Post, it is titled, as Bernie Sanders ascends, his potential White House approach to the economy comes into focus.
00:27:18.000Interviews with more than a dozen internal and external advisors reveal how his campaign team is squarely focusing on locking up the Democratic primary, but his success had led others to try to gauge what might be next.
00:27:27.000Many of them spoke on the condition of anonymity because the process remains so fluid and many decisions have not been made.
00:27:32.000Some parts of Sanders's policy agenda remain unchanged from 2016.
00:27:37.000Advisors say his Medicare for All and $15 an hour minimum wage would probably top his list of first priorities.
00:27:42.000He has expanded his 2016 agenda by adding policies such as the Green New Deal, a housing guarantee for all Americans, the elimination of all student debt held in the country, and an aggressive wealth tax on multimillionaires and billionaires.
00:27:52.000Critics say it's unclear whether Sanders' team is up to the daunting legislative and policy challenges ahead, while supporters see a major asset in their rejection of traditional democratic channels and policy priorities.
00:28:03.000Sanders has hired three former aides to Harry Reid, who had a knack for holding the line during public debates while also cutting deals with Republicans at opportune times.
00:28:09.000But Sanders has retained longtime advisors in key roles.
00:28:14.000Some of those advisors, by the way, include Jane Sanders, his wife, who has helped craft the 2020 campaign's climate and housing policies, which is great, after she ran a university directly into the ground.
00:28:24.000I mean, like, a plane from 20,000 feet directly into the ground is how she ran a university in Vermont.
00:28:29.000Let's definitely put her in charge of climate and housing policy in the United States.
00:28:34.000Okay, so his advisors apparently are clashing with major democratic think tanks.
00:28:38.000His policy team, working with national political director Annalilia Mejia, has instead consulted with environmental and immigration activist organizations, such as Sunrise Movement and the Center for Popular Democracy.
00:28:48.000It has also worked with labor-funded groups, such as the Economic Policy Institute and the Democracy Collaborative, an international organization connected to leftist Jeremy Corbyn's Labor Party in Britain, and new think tanks like the People's Policy Project, founded in 2017 and funded by small-dollar donations.
00:29:03.000These groups, regarded as marginal players among Washington insiders, could gain new prominence should Sanders run the table in the election.
00:29:10.000Okay, so let's talk about who some of these people are.
00:29:13.000Let's talk about some of these groups, because we just ran through a list of groups, and when you group them all together, it just sounds like, oh, people who are sort of outside the box.
00:29:20.000Let's talk about who these groups are.
00:29:22.000So let us begin with the Sunrise Movement, right?
00:29:25.000It is mentioned here that he is consulting with environmental and activist organizations like the Sunrise Movement.
00:29:29.000So who exactly are the Sunrise Movement?
00:29:32.000The Sunrise Movement is this environmentalist group, and here's what it says on their website.
00:29:35.000They stump for what they call the Green New Deal.
00:29:38.000And they overtly link to AOC's ridiculous videos on the Green New Deal, in which she claims that she's going to make America basically run entirely carbon-free while she becomes a senator.
00:30:33.000Her Green New Deal is basically free crap for everyone, up to and including free healthcare for everybody, free college tuition for everybody, free housing for everybody.
00:30:53.000They post this, and here's what they say.
00:30:55.000The Green New Deal is a 10-year plan to mobilize every aspect of American society to 100% clean and renewable energy by 2030, a guaranteed living wage job for anyone who needs one, and a just transition for both workers and frontline communities.
00:31:07.000So, full government employment program, and we are going to be completely carbon-free by 2030.
00:31:14.000If you believe this, boy, do I have a bridge to sell you.
00:31:33.000But the one time I became a fan of Dianne Feinstein was during this little exchange where the Sunrise Movement, these obnoxious human beings, brought in a bunch of children and had the children try to scold Dianne Feinstein, which resulted in Dianne Feinstein being like, you can't vote, shut up, kid.
00:31:46.000The government is supposed to be for the people and by the people and all for the people.
00:31:50.000You know what's interesting about this group?
00:32:16.000So, you know, maybe people should listen a little bit.
00:32:20.000The Sunrise Movement is so ridiculous that even Dianne Feinstein, who's as far to the left as it's possible to be in Congress, even Dianne Feinstein is like, you guys are, you guys are a joke.
00:32:27.000Okay, so that's one of the groups that Bernie Sanders is counting on.
00:32:30.000Another of the groups that Bernie Sanders is counting on is the so-called Center for Popular Democracy.
00:32:34.000So if you look at their website, they have a list of their values.
00:32:37.000Some of their values include, quote, We will only be free when we dismantle the criminal justice system that steals childhood, murders black and brown people, and locks up people for being poor.
00:32:47.000Okay, that's another one of the advisory groups to Bernie Sanders.
00:32:49.000They believe that the criminal justice system in the United States simply locks people up for being impoverished, murders black and brown people, and steals childhoods.
00:32:57.000And they want to completely dismantle the criminal justice system.
00:33:02.000They want every person who was formerly incarcerated to vote.
00:33:06.000They want a nation that quote-unquote promotes peace and harmony around the world, and we will only be free when the U.S.
00:33:12.000government ceases to instigate violence in other countries.
00:33:26.000And then, it turns out that this Center for Popular Democracy, The Center for Popular Democracy is also associated pretty closely with this guy named Gar Alperowicz.
00:33:39.000So Gar Alperowicz, I'm trying to remember which of these groups he is associated with.
00:33:43.000Gar Alperowicz has become sort of famous as this post-capitalist guy.
00:33:47.000He was one of the founders of one of the groups that, the Democracy Collaborative, that's correct.
00:33:52.000He was with the Democracy Collaborative.
00:33:54.000So that's another one of these groups that gets named in this Bernie Sanders article, gets name-checked, the Democracy Collaborative.
00:33:59.000Galil Perowitz is like a post-capitalist thinker, meaning that he is openly in favor of socialism, and by socialism, he really means nationalization, right?
00:34:09.000He says that it's kind of unpalatable to talk about nationalization of resources, but effectively, we should municipalize resources.
00:34:15.000We should just have the government take over industries.
00:34:18.000He had an article in The Nation called, Socialism is Closer Than You Think.
00:34:24.000And here's what he writes, at the core of the traditional socialist argument has always been the judgment that democratic ownership of the nation's wealth and especially what Marx called the means of production is essential.
00:34:32.000The question of ownership, however, has rarely been mentioned in conventional political debate.
00:34:36.000The traditional socialist idea of nationalized industry is beyond the pale and the vast majority of progressives have so far avoided discussing alternatives to the statist socialist model.
00:34:44.000So he doesn't actually reject the idea of nationalizing the means of production?
00:34:48.000Of government ownership of the means of production?
00:34:50.000Instead, he actually chastises Bernie Sanders for not being socialist enough in the nation.
00:34:56.000This guy, this Gallup Hurwitz fellow, who, by the way, also is the leader of the Democracy Collaborative, which is one of the groups that Bernie is consulting.
00:35:05.000In this article for The Nation written just a couple of years ago, Alperowicz says, despite his self-definition as a democratic socialist, Sanders has offered what is essentially a strong liberal or social democratic program of progressive taxation, financial regulation, single-payer health care, increased social security and income support programs, and environmental regulations.
00:35:22.000Sanders explicitly disavowed government ownership of businesses in his major theme-setting speech at Georgetown University last November.
00:35:28.000At the same time, says Alperowicz, new resources have become available to support the construction of a serious alternative system.
00:35:34.000One that is socialist in content and vision, but also highly democratic and accountable in structure.
00:35:42.000Once you suggest that people get to vote on how industry is run, it is not actually being run along the lines of the free market.
00:35:49.000Now you are just talking about the government cramming down its own vision of how businesses should be run on business.
00:35:56.000So you don't actually end up with a free market.
00:35:58.000So in fact, it's not democratic because the basis of democracy is rights.
00:36:03.000And you're saying there are no rights.
00:36:04.000There is just what the majority wants.
00:36:08.000So Alperovitz recommends as an alternative to state-run systems, what he calls worker-owned cooperatives, neighborhood land trucks, and municipal corporations, all democratizing ownership in one way or another, doing so in decentralized rather than statist fashion.
00:36:22.000But if it's done without the help of government, then that is not socialism, that is just a bunch of people getting together and founding a company together, right?
00:36:28.000When Facebook was founded, everybody who started Facebook got a share of the stock.
00:36:32.000That amounts to like 23 billion dollars when Facebook went public, for people who started the company.
00:36:37.000Is there anybody on the socialist left who calls Facebook a cooperative?
00:36:40.000Or would have called Facebook a cooperative?
00:36:41.000If you're operating in a free market situation, Through sheer power of consent.
00:36:46.000That is no longer communism or socialism.
00:36:47.000Socialism has to involve a state-compelled or state-sponsored component.
00:36:51.000Otherwise, it is not the workers in charge of the means of production.
00:37:47.000You can go over to the stock exchange and you can buy a piece of Amazon.
00:37:52.000Okay, but just because you didn't go over and do that does not mean that Amazon is solely for the benefit of the capitalists at the top.
00:37:59.000Everybody who owns stock is presumably a capitalist.
00:38:01.000And all of the workers who, by the way, earn a salary, which means they're making more money off of working at Amazon, presumably, than most stockholders in Amazon.
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00:39:15.000So what we're seeing right now with people like Gal Alperowitz is that, or Gar Alperowitz rather, is the attempt to paint as socialist free market activity in which people own stock in a company.
00:39:32.000See, I have a very stark division between socialism and not socialism.
00:39:36.000Socialism is where the state collectivizes the means of production.
00:39:40.000State ownership of the means of production is the core of socialism.
00:39:43.000Okay, if a bunch of us at the company get together and found a company today, and we share the stock evenly, that's not a socialist cooperative.
00:40:42.000According to The Guardian, 2013, Mondragon is exposed to fierce competition from developing world competitors with lower labor costs.
00:40:48.000Its response has been to set up factories or buy companies in other parts of the world.
00:40:52.000There are now 94 subsidiaries producing goods from Vietnam to Chile, Morocco, and Russia.
00:40:57.000Workers at these are not co-op members.
00:41:00.000Fewer than half of Mondragon's workforce are members, meaning there are also raw-blooded capitalists living off the labor of others.
00:41:06.000So in other words, the rules of the market do not cease to apply when more people own stock.
00:41:11.000Publicly traded companies, lots of people own stock.
00:41:14.000Okay, this has been true for Mondragon for years.
00:41:16.000It operates basically like a free market corporation.
00:41:18.000It's just there are a bunch of people who own stock and they vote in the board elections, effectively speaking.
00:41:23.000And here's the problem with the idea of forcing down worker-owned businesses.
00:41:28.000If you force down worker-owned businesses, then why would I invest my own capital in a company where I don't have control over the decisions that are made about the use of that capital?
00:41:37.000If you present to me a good business plan, then I will invest in that business plan regardless of who owns the means of production.
00:41:43.000But if you present me a bad business plan, and this is really what Bernie wants, this is what people on the left want, they want any bad business plan to be greenlit by the government, sponsored by taxpayers, and then subsidized by taxpayers if the thing starts to go south or restrictions placed on other companies.
00:41:55.000When they talk about worker co-ops, what they really mean is government-subsidized, sponsored, or mandated worker co-ops.
00:42:00.000They do not mean through pure volunteerism.
00:42:02.000Okay, one final group that Bernie has been calling upon is the People's Policy Project.
00:42:10.000They talk extensively about various things that they want, including that the U.S.
00:42:14.000should make a suite of reforms aimed at increasing leisure time.
00:42:18.000They talk about a global Green New Deal, openly arguing the U.S.
00:42:21.000should send hundreds of billions of dollars annually to the U.N.
00:42:24.000Hundreds of billions of dollars annually to the U.N.
00:42:27.000Green Climate Fund to help developing countries make clean energy transitions.
00:42:31.000And that the policy of the United States would publicly fund early-stage green technologies and also would manage the government's equity stakes in all of these green technologies.
00:42:40.000And they argue for a tax of 230 bucks per ton of carbon pollution.
00:42:46.000Good luck with not destroying the economy of the United States with that, okay?
00:42:50.000All of this is just the groups that Bernie is associated with.
00:42:52.000Then you actually go to his website and you look at his actual agenda, and it's absolute lunacy.
00:43:16.000You are now mandating that a company deal with the union even if the company can hire people from outside the union in order to do work, which is a violation of basic free market principles and puts a bunch of people who are not in charge of the profitability of the company in charge of the company.
00:43:30.000It would deny federal contracts to companies that pay quote-unquote poverty wages, outsource jobs overseas, engage in union busting, deny good benefits, and pay CEOs outrageous compensation packages.
00:43:38.000In other words, federal contracts will only go to Friends of Bernie.
00:43:42.000It will eliminate right-to-work-for-less laws, right?
00:43:45.000It would guarantee the right to unionize for workers historically excluded from labor protection.
00:43:50.000So they want domestic workers to be crammed down as a unionized workforce.
00:43:54.000So that means that if you hire a domestic worker, to take care of your ailing father, that you will have to deal with a union now in order to do that.
00:44:03.000So he's pushing unionization forced down by the federal government.
00:44:07.000He's pushing what he calls corporate accountability and democracy.
00:44:11.000We will give workers an ownership stake in the companies they work for.
00:44:15.000So he's talking about overtly seizing companies, or at least redistributing the ownership stake in companies, despite the fact that workers presumably signed up with the company with the understanding that they weren't getting stock in the company.
00:44:27.000I mean, he is talking about completely reorganizing every facet of America's business life.
00:44:32.000He says, while the corporate profits that presently go to a small number of ultra-wealthy families are at or near all-time high, wages as a percentage of our economy are at an all-time low.
00:44:41.000And so he says, the establishment tells us there's no alternative.
00:44:44.000The truth is we must develop new economic models to create jobs and increase wages and productivity across America.
00:44:51.000He says, workers, basically companies should be forced to give ownership stakes in their companies and an equal say on corporate boards.
00:45:16.000I'm handing over control of the business to people whose chief interest is in maximizing not the profitability, accountability, and competitiveness of the company, but in ensuring that the company spends most of its energy on the wage base.
00:45:33.000Why would I invest in a company that I don't control?
00:45:36.000Where if the workers decide to make a decision, Let's say that we have a choice.
00:45:39.000The choice now is to invest a million dollars in a new innovative concept in which the workers may share or they may not share, or we can spend that million dollars on raises for everybody.
00:45:49.000The workers very often are going to vote for the raises because they don't know they're going to be working at this company in five or ten years.
00:45:55.000So why wouldn't they vote for the raises?
00:45:56.000Okay, we don't have to speculate about this.
00:45:59.000This is exactly what happened in Detroit in the 1950s and 60s when unions were largely running the major auto companies.
00:46:06.000And then the minute that competition was available and the tariffs were lowered in the 1960s and 70s, the auto industry in the United States plummeted off a cliff.
00:46:14.000When you place workers in opposition to capital, and then you suggest that the workers should control the capital, do you think anybody's ever going to invest in a company again in the United States?
00:46:30.000What Bernie is talking about is a complete reorganization crammed down by the federal government on nearly every business in America or at least on any business that is sufficiently successful to have a given number of employees.
00:46:40.000And then there's Bernie's foreign policy.
00:46:42.000Bernie's foreign policy is utter madness.
00:46:46.000So he suggests that we are going to We are going to give over authority to the International Criminal Court so that we can have foreign countries judge American soldiers in war zones.
00:46:57.000American soldiers will no longer be subject to American law.
00:46:59.000They'll be subject to the vagaries of international law run from Brussels.
00:47:05.000He wants us to, of course, rejoin the Iran nuclear agreement.
00:47:09.000And his foreign policy, by the way, I will say his foreign policy page is incredibly short.
00:47:14.000Because his foreign policy is basically, he just wants America's military to be incredibly weak.
00:47:22.000Then you have his plan with regard to churches.
00:47:25.000Okay, so he has what he calls the LGBTQ part of this.
00:47:29.000And he explicitly says he wants to strongly oppose any legislation that purports to protect religious liberty at the expense of others' rights.
00:47:36.000So in other words, he wants your church to be able to be sued into the ground for not accepting same-sex marriages or transgender ideology.
00:47:49.000We will enact a federal jobs guarantee Create 20 million jobs as part of the Green New Deal, which effectively means we're just going to pay people to dig holes and then fill them in again.
00:47:59.000Barack Obama tried to do the same with so-called shovel-ready jobs.
00:48:03.000I mean, all of this is pie-in-the-sky nonsense that can only be accomplished, presumably, through massive debt and also through the seizure of the means of production.
00:48:34.000Well, it is sort of fascinating when the mask comes off at universities and the push for racial tolerance, as it turns out, is merely just a push for racial quotas.
00:48:41.000Good example of this happened yesterday.
00:48:43.000Apparently, there is some public space at the University of Virginia, and a University of Virginia walked in and gave a public service announcement that in this public space, there were just too many white people, which is certainly one hell of a statement.
00:48:56.000This is definitely accomplishing Martin Luther King's vision of a society in which we are judged by the quality of our character rather than the color of our skin.
00:49:03.000It's people walking in and saying, too many white people in here.
00:49:05.000This is working out beautifully for everybody.
00:49:13.000If y'all didn't know, this is the MSC, and frankly, there's just too many white people in here, and this is a space for people of color.
00:49:20.000So just be really cognizant of the space that you're taking up, because it does make some of us POCs uncomfortable when we see too many white people in here.
00:49:28.000It's only been open for four days, and frankly, there's the whole university for a lot of y'all to be at, and there's very few spaces for us.
00:49:40.000Multicultural Center, but only for not white people.
00:49:42.000And if there are too many white people in here, get out.
00:49:45.000Obviously, it goes without saying, reverse the races and this would be a national scandal.
00:49:49.000But of course, we're all supposed to pretend that this sort of stuff doesn't happen and that racism is... One of the fascinating things is when people say things like, racism is not just racism, it's racism combined with power.
00:49:59.000Therefore, because the structural hierarchies in the United States are such that white people are more powerful than black people, then that means that nobody who is of color can ever be a racist.
00:50:07.000Okay, well, what about when it's the university and a representative of the university who is stepping into a position of power and explicitly saying white people out?
00:50:15.000Like, wouldn't that be racism combined with power?
00:50:19.000Okay, meanwhile, speaking of people saying idiotic things on the basis of intersectional identity, Ayanna Pressley got up yesterday, and she suggested that women are not equal to men in the eyes of the government, which is very weird, considering that women constitute the majority of college attendees, the majority of college graduates, that they are in prison far less than men, that they are actually the majority of the workforce at this point.
00:50:40.000But according to Ayanna Pressley, who is sitting in Congress, Apparently women are not equal to men in the eyes of the government, which again, I'm gonna need some evidence of this one.
00:50:48.000The American Constitution is sexist by its very design.
00:50:52.000This country's laws have historically treated us like second-class citizens, depriving us of the right to vote, enter most jobs, and to own property.
00:51:01.000While some of these injustices may cease to exist, we still face tremendous barriers to our full participation in society.
00:51:09.000With tomorrow's vote, we have an opportunity to right this country's wrong and to take a stand in the name of equality.
00:51:15.000I like that she is now linking bars on female property ownership, which so far as I'm aware have not existed for well over a century and a half in the United States.
00:51:24.000I'm really confused as to how she is linking that with anything that has to do with today.
00:51:28.000But this is what, by the way, so much of leftist thought is this.
00:51:31.000So much of leftist thought is, here's a bad thing that happened two years ago.
00:51:40.000Every Ta-Nehisi Coates essay is very passionate writing about something that happened in 1823, and then just fast forward to today and he's like, and now the current day equivalent is X.
00:52:26.000And it's on the basis of these sort of Crafted resentment that you're able to pitch a Bernie Sanders agenda, right?
00:52:32.000If you declare that America is unfixable, if you declare that America is in essence a land of victimization, then of course you can argue on a moral level for the uprooting of that system.
00:52:42.000See, the thing that Bernie and a lot of the left have to contend with is the fact that America is incredibly free and prosperous, that most people in America are doing incredibly well, that even the poor in America are rich by global standards, not by American standards, by global standards.
00:52:54.000They're middle class or rich by global standards.
00:52:56.000The poor people who live in the United States.
00:52:59.000And so the socialists have an uphill climb to explain why we ought to uproot a system that has created more prosperity for more human beings than any system in the history of humanity and more freedom for more human beings than any system in the history of humanity.
00:53:11.000So instead, what you see from people like Ayanna Pressley, And presumably from this University of Virginia rep, too, is they will say, sure, all this stuff is pretty good, but it is morally unjustifiable because of all the suffering that went before.
00:53:22.000Therefore, we have to uproot the system.
00:53:23.000Everything that is good is the fruit of the poisonous tree.
00:53:26.000If we cut down the tree and we uproot the roots, then sure, we're going to lose some of that good stuff, but we will have built a better moral foundation.
00:53:32.000This is why, in the end, the Bernie Sanders pitch has very little to do with his policy, and it has much more to do with his ideals.
00:53:41.000I can talk all day long to Bernie Sanders supporters about the fact that his plans are utterly unsustainable, that they are going to tank the economy, that they are, in my view, immoral and violent of individual rights.
00:53:50.000But according to people on the left, this is a question not of individual rights, it's a question of the morality of the system in place.
00:53:56.000And this is the beauty of the counterfactual for people who are on the far left.
00:54:00.000The beauty of the counterfactual is that you get to live off the riches of capitalism, off the riches of individual liberty, off the basis of Enlightenment thinking, and then you get to bitch about how things would be better if we had never done any of those things.
00:54:12.000I mean, I was at a college campus fairly recently, and somebody handed me a pamphlet that talked about, it quoted various people, including, I believe, Martin Luther King, talking about some of the wonders of socialism and all this stuff.
00:54:22.000And they said, well, look at all these great people who had great things to say about socialism.
00:54:25.000And I said, yeah, you notice what they all had in common?
00:54:29.000It really, it is very, very easy to talk about the wonders of socialism, particularly government ownership of the means of production.
00:54:37.000And never have to live under it, and then suggest, well, if we did live under it, then the prospective fantasy is so much better than any reality that could possibly exist.
00:54:44.000The dream of utopia is always better than the reality.
00:54:47.000The thing is, the dream of utopia ain't gonna materialize.
00:54:50.000So when you hear politicians tell you to dream big, to dream big, what you should say is, okay, and now let's verify.
00:54:58.000Now let's verify, because your dreams, I keep going back to this hook quote, this hook scene, but that really is what it is.
00:55:04.000If you just dream hard enough, you can will the dream to reality.
00:55:09.000And sometimes the dream itself is immoral if what it mandates means that you wish not to specify.
00:55:16.000The hiding of the ball when it comes to socialism, the attempt to basically suggest that it's just gonna be a higher tax system, that pitch that Bernie Sanders is making, it obscures the reality of true government ownership of the means of production, which does suggest compulsion.
00:55:30.000It does suggest violation of individual rights.
00:55:33.000And the only basis that people can push for on that basis is to suggest that the regime of individual rights is inherently racist, sexist, bigoted, homophobic, and rooted in historic injustice, which is why the New York Times pushes the 1619 Project.
00:55:44.000It's why the study of history is really, really important, and it's why the pitch that Ayanna Pressley and The New York Times make, and Bernie makes, is so rooted in sort of a Howard's Envision.
00:55:53.000Because if you can discredit the roots of America, then you never have to deal with the fact that America has also generated more prosperity and freedom than any country in the history of humanity, and it ain't close.
00:56:01.000Alrighty, we'll be back here later today with two additional hours of content.
00:56:04.000Otherwise, we'll see you here tomorrow.
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