The Ben Shapiro Show - June 03, 2021


The Fauci EmailsĀ | Ep. 1267


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00:00:00.000 Dr. Anthony Fauci's emails emerge, and they are not particularly flattering.
00:00:04.000 And President Biden unleashes a tirade against America to commemorate the 100-year anniversary of the Tulsa Massacre.
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00:01:37.000 Okay, so the big news of the day is that BuzzFeed has somehow gotten access.
00:01:42.000 Well, not somehow.
00:01:43.000 They asked for a FOIA request for Dr. Anthony Fauci's emails over the course of the last year and a half or so.
00:01:51.000 And what emerges is a picture of Anthony Fauci that is not particularly flattering because he receives a lot of information that he then ignored.
00:01:58.000 He receives a lot of flattery from very high ranking people, which he apparently sort of took and stuffed in his back pocket.
00:02:04.000 Now, the way the media are treating these emails is that there is nothing to see here.
00:02:08.000 Like, nothing at all.
00:02:09.000 In fact, if you look at how the media are treating Fauci, they have to continue to burnish his image as the greatest of all doctors, despite the fact that he has been a public health failure in terms of the imaging and the messages he's trying to convey to the public.
00:02:21.000 He's flip-flopped on every available issue, from whether schools should be open, to what the proper methods of social distancing are, to whether masks are appropriate or not, to whether the vaccines require you to wear a mask post-vaccination or not.
00:02:33.000 He's been all over the place on every single one of these issues.
00:02:35.000 He has not been a good public health communicator, and he has indeed reveled in this.
00:02:40.000 The latest news on Fauci, by the way, is that he is set to release a book on truth and service in November.
00:02:46.000 So he's about to cash in.
00:02:48.000 In the new book, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases shares his views on truth and the experiences that have shaped his life philosophy.
00:02:55.000 It's only 80 pages, and it's filled with interviews that Fauci has conducted during his 34-year run as NIAID director.
00:03:02.000 The book, which will be released by National Geographic Books on November 2nd, will discuss how to lead during a time of crisis.
00:03:08.000 Sure to strike a chord with readers, the inspiring words of wisdom in this book are centered around life lessons compiled from hours of interviews offering a concrete path to a bright and hopeful future, says the publisher.
00:03:19.000 Meanwhile, there is a children's picture book about Fauci titled Dr. Fauci, How a Boy from Brooklyn Became America's Doctor.
00:03:24.000 That is due later this month.
00:03:26.000 Also, Fauci is going to be the subject of a new Disney-backed biopic documentary that will be released on National Geographic later this year.
00:03:33.000 Apparently, filmmakers were following Fauci around throughout 2020 as he worked on the coronavirus task force.
00:03:38.000 Unclear exactly how much he's going to make from the film or from the books.
00:03:43.000 Suffice it to say that Fauci has not been camera shy throughout all of this.
00:03:46.000 Now, the way that the media are treating these emails again is that there's nothing to see here.
00:03:49.000 The headline from the Washington Post, Anthony Fauci's pandemic emails, all is well despite some crazy people in this world.
00:03:56.000 Fauci's correspondence from March and April 2020, obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, offers a peek into his world during the frantic early days of the coronavirus crisis.
00:04:06.000 As the coronavirus pandemic engulfed the world last spring, Science Magazine quoted a top Chinese health official saying the United States and other Western nations were making a big mistake by not telling people to mask up.
00:04:15.000 Science Magazine stands by its reporting, but the official, George Gao, worried that the comment might upset his longtime friend, Anthony Fauci.
00:04:22.000 So amid the deepening crisis, Gao reached out to clear the air.
00:04:25.000 I saw the Science interview.
00:04:26.000 How could I say such a big word, mistake, about others?
00:04:28.000 This was journalist wording.
00:04:29.000 Hope you understand, said Gao, director of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention.
00:04:34.000 Let's work together to get the virus out of the earth.
00:04:36.000 I understand completely.
00:04:37.000 No problem, Fauci wrote back.
00:04:39.000 We will get through this together.
00:04:41.000 About 866 pages of Fauci's emails were obtained by the Washington Post as part of a Freedom of Information Act request.
00:04:47.000 The correspondence, which is just March and April, so we don't have anything beyond that, is, um, yeah, according to the Washington Post, just demonstrates how wonderful he was at all of this.
00:04:58.000 He was reached out to by Bill Gates.
00:05:00.000 And he was reached out to by the medical director of the National Football League Players Association.
00:05:05.000 Fauci said in a recent interview, I was getting every single kind of question, mostly people who were a little bit confused about the mixed messages that were coming out of the White House and wanted to know what's the real scoop.
00:05:13.000 I have a reputation, I respond to people when they ask for help, even if it takes a long time, and it's very time consuming, but I do.
00:05:18.000 The released emails show Fauci indeed tried to answer many queries, sometimes hitting send well after midnight.
00:05:25.000 And even as Trump ratcheted up attacks on China for not containing the virus, Fauci sought to maintain ties with Gao, a well-regarded Chinese scientific leader, and Gao with him.
00:05:36.000 And the entire article is about what a wonderful, wonderful man Fauci is, and how tolerant he is, and how he shunned the limelight, which is pretty incredible for a guy who posts for InStyle Magazine.
00:05:45.000 Here's another headline from CNN.
00:05:46.000 Thousands of emails from and to Fauci during the pandemic's early days were published.
00:05:50.000 Here's what they show about him.
00:05:52.000 And the tweet from CNN is absolutely gushing.
00:05:56.000 The tweet from CNN is all about what a wonderful, these emails, they demonstrate just how wonderful he is.
00:06:00.000 Okay, so here are some problems with the Fauci emails.
00:06:04.000 He was warned about the Wuhan lab leak theory very, very, very early on.
00:06:09.000 In fact, it appears that he was warned in late January that there were elements of the virus that looked engineered.
00:06:16.000 There's a woman named Christian Anderson, I believe woman, or could be a gentleman, I'm not sure.
00:06:21.000 There's a person named Christian Anderson who emailed Fauci and said, Thanks for sharing.
00:06:28.000 I saw this earlier today and both Eddie and myself are actually quoted in it.
00:06:31.000 It's a great article, but the problem is that our phylogenetic analyses aren't able to answer whether the sequences are unusual at individual residues except if they are completely off.
00:06:40.000 On a phylogenetic tree, the virus looks totally normal, and the close clustering with bats suggests that bats serve as the reservoir.
00:06:46.000 The unusual features of the virus make up a really small part of the genome, so one has to look really closely at all the sequences to see that some of the features potentially look engineered.
00:06:55.000 Okay, this would be an email from January 31st, 2020, in which a fellow scientist was telling Fauci that some of the elements of the virus look engineered.
00:07:07.000 On February 1st, there were emails in which Fauci apparently was discussing gain-of-function research.
00:07:13.000 One of his colleagues over at the NIH, a guy named Hugh Auchincloss, emailed him February 1st, 2020, saying, The paper you sent me says the experiments were performed before the gain-of-function pause, but have since been reviewed and approved by NIH.
00:07:27.000 Not sure what that means.
00:07:30.000 And Fauci wrote back, Okay, stay tuned.
00:07:33.000 So it sounds as though people were talking about gain of function research in the Wuhan labs, apparently as early as like the beginning of February in these emails.
00:07:42.000 Okay, he was warned, was Fauci, that the Chinese were lying about their numbers by the founder of BioSignal Technologies as of mid-March.
00:07:51.000 This person warned Fauci, said, I'm confident that China stopped counting dead at COVID-19 infected bodies since about January 7th, 2020.
00:08:00.000 They've been adding fabricated data daily to show, say face, the world and their own people an impressive flattening of China's outbreak curve.
00:08:06.000 It's easy to prove this via data analysis because for example, improbable coincidences occurred in much of the data.
00:08:12.000 My suspicions were eventually confirmed by at least two of my sources in China.
00:08:15.000 The data posted by China is not only garbage, it has misled the world into a false sense of security with regard to death rate, age versus death, and other things.
00:08:22.000 Okay, so Fauci was warned again very early on that the Chinese were lying about their numbers.
00:08:27.000 He was warned again on February 22nd about the possibility of a lab leak.
00:08:32.000 There's a doctor named Michael Jacobs who's a Cornell Medical School graduate, associate professor of dermatology at Weill Cornell in private practice.
00:08:42.000 And he was working with a guy named Alexander Tarakovsky, who's a professor at Rockefeller University and a virologist.
00:08:48.000 He says, we have been following the coronavirus pandemic closely, and a few days ago became alarmed at the news that the Chinese government is sterilizing their paper money from Hubei province.
00:08:56.000 We think there is a possibility the virus was released from a lab in Wuhan, the biotech area of China.
00:09:01.000 We also think the virus might be complex with another organism, such as a yeast or fungus, to make it more sticky.
00:09:05.000 We would like to discuss this with you further.
00:09:08.000 He forwarded this on to his assistant, did Fauci, and said, please handle.
00:09:13.000 So, he was being warned about the possibility of gain-of-function research.
00:09:18.000 He was sending emails about it.
00:09:20.000 He was being warned about China lying.
00:09:23.000 And then, he was simultaneously downplaying the idea that this thing was made in the lab.
00:09:28.000 Remember that Fauci openly testified that there was no evidence that it was made in the lab at all.
00:09:33.000 He couldn't identify any.
00:09:33.000 Like, none.
00:09:37.000 If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there now, it's very, very strongly leaning towards this could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated, the way the mutations have naturally evolved.
00:09:55.000 Someone will say, well, maybe somebody took it from the wild, put it in the lab, and then it escaped from the lab.
00:10:03.000 But that means it was in the wild to begin with.
00:10:06.000 Nobody's arguing whether it was in the wild.
00:10:08.000 It's like a basic virus.
00:10:09.000 But this form of COVID-19 has never been found in a bat, like ever.
00:10:13.000 OK, so Fauci was being warned about that in February, and he was simultaneously downplaying all of this.
00:10:19.000 OK, later, of course, Fauci would testify with regard to COVID in China.
00:10:23.000 Rand Paul really went after him on this.
00:10:27.000 For years, Dr. Ralph Baric, a virologist in the U.S., has been collaborating with Dr. Shi Zhengli of the Wuhan Virology Institute, sharing his discoveries about how to create superviruses.
00:10:40.000 This gain-of-function research has been funded by the NIH.
00:10:44.000 Dr. Fauci, do you still support funding of the NIH funding of the lab in Wuhan?
00:10:51.000 Senator Paul, with all due respect, you are entirely and completely incorrect that the NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain-of-function research in the Wuhan Institute.
00:11:08.000 Okay, well, it turns out that actually we signed checks to a place called EcoHealth and they signed checks to the Wuhan Institute of Virology by best available data today.
00:11:16.000 Now, of course, Fauci admits that China could have used the money for gain-of-function research.
00:11:20.000 You gave them money, and you said, don't do gain-of-function research.
00:11:24.000 Correct.
00:11:25.000 And they said, we won't.
00:11:26.000 Correct.
00:11:29.000 And you have no way of knowing whether they did or not, except you trust them.
00:11:34.000 Is that right?
00:11:35.000 Well, we generally always trust the grantee to do what they say, and you look at the results.
00:11:41.000 Have you ever had a grantee lie to you?
00:11:45.000 I cannot guarantee that a grantee has not lied to us, because you never know.
00:11:50.000 Okay, again, there's an email sent February 1st, 2020.
00:11:53.000 We need to know what it means.
00:11:55.000 From Hugh Auchincloss, saying the paper you sent me says the experiments were performed before the gain-of-function pause, but have since been reviewed and approved by NIH.
00:12:01.000 So what exactly are we talking about here?
00:12:03.000 Not sure what this means.
00:12:04.000 Since Emily is sure that no coronavirus work has gone through the P3 framework, she'll try to determine if we have any distant ties to this work abroad, is what that email says.
00:12:12.000 Okay, so certainly there should be some sort of questions asked about all of this.
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00:13:26.000 Okay, so Anthony Fauci, he downplayed the lab leak theory all throughout March, all throughout April, and he was thanked by heads of these various labs for doing so.
00:13:38.000 So for example, Anthony Fauci was thanked for downplaying the lab leak theory by a guy named Peter Daszak.
00:13:47.000 Peter Daszak said, as the P1 of an R1 grant publicly targeted by Fox News reporters at the presidential press briefing last night, I wanted to say a personal thank you on behalf of our staff and collaborators for publicly standing up and stating that the scientific evidence supports a natural origin for COVID-19 from a bat to human spillover, not a lab release from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
00:14:06.000 From my perspective, your comments are brave and coming from your trusted voice will help dispel the myths being spun about the virus's origins.
00:14:12.000 Once the pandemic is over, I look forward to thanking you in person and let you know how important your comments are to us all.
00:14:16.000 So that was the head of apparently one of these labs who's passing through funding.
00:14:21.000 Thanking Anthony Fauci for his approach on all of this.
00:14:24.000 Fauci was also thanked by Jin Wanzhou.
00:14:29.000 Thank you very much for your hard work on COVID-19.
00:14:31.000 Professor Wang Zhijun of the Institute of Zoology at the Chinese Academy of Science, who was very happy that he had downplayed all of the Chinese lab leak theories.
00:14:41.000 He emailed Fauci, Dear Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, Thank you very much for your hard work on COVID-19.
00:14:46.000 You are the hero of word.
00:14:48.000 Good times?
00:14:49.000 Alright, so that's what Fauci's emails show with regard to the lab leak stuff.
00:14:53.000 Okay, he was being warned very early on.
00:14:55.000 We have some emails that are internal that suggest that the lab leak stuff was being passed around.
00:14:59.000 Gain-of-function research speculation was being passed around internally.
00:15:02.000 And meanwhile, Fauci was strongly downplaying all of that information.
00:15:06.000 So further questions are necessary, to say the least.
00:15:08.000 Then, we get to Anthony Fauci on masks.
00:15:11.000 Now, as we know, Anthony Fauci's been all over the place on masks.
00:15:15.000 In fact, February 5th, he sends an email to Sylvia Burwell saying, quote, masks are really for infected people to prevent them from spreading infection to people who are not infected, rather than protecting uninfected people from acquiring infection. The typical mask you buy in the drugstore is not really effective in keeping out virus, which is small enough to pass through the material. And he's right.
00:15:33.000 It might, however, provide some slight benefit in keeping out gross droplets if someone coughs or sneezes on you.
00:15:38.000 I do not recommend that you wear a mask, particularly since you are going to a very low-risk location.
00:15:42.000 Your instincts are correct.
00:15:43.000 Money is best spent on medical countermeasures such as diagnostics and vaccines.
00:15:47.000 Okay, so he was saying the same sort of stuff publicly, right?
00:15:49.000 He was saying that masks are unnecessary at this point in time.
00:15:51.000 This is in early February.
00:15:54.000 Okay, and later, of course, he would admit that in March, when he was saying don't wear a mask at the very beginning, that he was fibbing about the masking.
00:16:01.000 I mean, Fauci said that he didn't regret having fibbed about the masking.
00:16:05.000 In fact, he told Nora O'Donnell, quote, I don't regret anything I said then because in the context of the time in which I said it, it was correct.
00:16:11.000 We were told in our task force meetings they have a serious problem with the lack of PPEs and masks for the health providers who are putting themselves in harm's way every day to take care of sick people.
00:16:19.000 When it became clear the infection could be spread by asymptomatic carriers who don't know they're infected, that made it very clear we had to strongly recommend masks.
00:16:26.000 Also, it soon became clear we had enough protective equipment and that cloth masks and homemade masks were as good as masks that you would buy from a surgical supply store.
00:16:33.000 Okay, well, so he just admitted, again, that he lied.
00:16:36.000 But, you know, no biggie.
00:16:38.000 More egregiously, Fauci's emails show that he knew very, very early on that once you were infected, you were basically done.
00:16:47.000 Fauci himself explicitly says that when it comes to immunity post-infection, he said, yeah, I think it's there.
00:16:57.000 So Ezekiel Emanuel emailed him.
00:16:59.000 Ezekiel Emanuel, of course, is one of the advisors to Biden.
00:17:03.000 He was an advisor to Obama and one of the founders of Obamacare.
00:17:06.000 He wrote to him on March 4th, and he said, is a person likely to be immune once they caught COVID-1s?
00:17:12.000 Do we know anything about likely drift?
00:17:14.000 Fauci wrote back, this is March 4th, no evidence in this regard, but you would assume that there would be, he spelled there wrong, there would be substantial immunity post-infection.
00:17:24.000 It is an RNA virus, and so you can expect mutations, but not sure how much is going on.
00:17:27.000 Okay, but then he was out there wearing a mask, like when Rand Paul was not wearing a mask post-infection, I'm not passing this thing.
00:17:35.000 He had a tete-a-tete with Fauci on this particular issue.
00:17:38.000 And here is Fauci contradicting himself.
00:17:41.000 What studies do you have that people that have had the vaccine or have had the infection are spreading the infection?
00:17:47.000 If we're not spreading the infection, isn't it just theater?
00:17:51.000 You got the vaccine and you're wearing two masks.
00:17:53.000 Isn't that theater?
00:17:54.000 No, it's not.
00:17:54.000 Here we go again with the theater.
00:17:56.000 Let's get down to the facts.
00:17:58.000 In the South African study conducted by J&J, they found that people who were infected with wild type and were exposed to the variant in South Africa, the 351, it was as if they had never been infected before.
00:18:15.000 They had no protection.
00:18:17.000 Okay, so it turns out, of course, that Fran Paul was exactly correct.
00:18:20.000 The only question with regard to RNA viruses is whether the thing is mutated that fast that you won't have some sort of immunity to another strain.
00:18:27.000 But there was no evidence that this was the case, that people were routinely getting reinfected.
00:18:31.000 There's no evidence of that anywhere along the line, and yet we were still told that once you had had the virus, you should still be wearing a mask around.
00:18:37.000 Finally, Fauci, of course, admitted that he was wearing a mask for no reason.
00:18:42.000 I'm obviously careful because, I mean, I'm a physician and a health care provider.
00:18:47.000 I am now much more comfortable in people seeing me indoors without a mask.
00:18:53.000 I mean, before the CDC made the recommendation change, I didn't want to look like I was giving mixed signals.
00:19:00.000 But being a fully vaccinated person, the chances of my getting infected in an indoor setting is extremely low.
00:19:09.000 And that's the reason why in indoor settings now, I feel comfortable about not wearing the mask.
00:19:14.000 Because as we pointed out at the time when Fauci was saying all this was nonsense when he was saying it. And of course he was lying about it. But now we know that going all the way back to March of last year, he knew that once you were post infection, which also means post vaccination, you really don't need to wear a mask. And for months, we've been told that the responsible thing to do, Joe Biden said this, it was patriotic for you to mask up even after you'd had the And then, of course, he switched in time.
00:19:35.000 So the theme here, the constant theme from Fauci is that he had very early indicators of what was going on and he routinely took the position that best upheld what he thought was the viability of the National Institutes of Health.
00:19:48.000 In other words, he is a career bureaucrat and career bureaucrats do exactly what you would think they do.
00:19:53.000 They defend their institutions.
00:19:55.000 Sort of like John Roberts with the Supreme Court, right?
00:19:56.000 He'll make a bunch of bad decisions that are intended to uphold the veracity of the Supreme Court, as opposed to just looking at the text of a particular law and seeing whether it squares with the Constitution.
00:20:05.000 Well, Dr. Fauci did the exact same thing with the NIAID, right?
00:20:09.000 From the very beginning, he had people speculating that this was a Wuhan lab leak, and he downplayed that because it turns out that there may have been connections between gain-of-function research in China and funding from the NIH.
00:20:18.000 We knew at the very beginning that masks, he thought, were actually useful at the beginning.
00:20:24.000 He thought first they were not useful, then he thought they were useful, and then he lied about it.
00:20:28.000 And then he said, I don't regret having lied, because after all, I was doing the right thing.
00:20:32.000 We had Dr. Fauci, who's fibbing about the virus itself and post-virus immunity.
00:20:38.000 Right?
00:20:38.000 And all of this was designed to set him up as the expert.
00:20:41.000 And meanwhile, he's emailing everybody he knew about all of these wonderful profiles of him and saying, oh man, this is just, this is so tough to take, you know, this publicity.
00:20:47.000 And then he's going and posing for InStyle Magazine.
00:20:49.000 So does this say that he's an evil man?
00:20:51.000 Does this say that he's a conspiracist?
00:20:54.000 No.
00:20:54.000 What it does say is that like all career bureaucrats, he's a career bureaucrat and you shouldn't trust these public health officials to be anything but that.
00:21:00.000 Career bureaucrats.
00:21:02.000 They are not quote-unquote scientists in the sense they will follow the science wherever it leads.
00:21:05.000 They are bureaucrats who will do whatever they have to do to uphold their institutional prerogatives and their institutional power.
00:21:11.000 We'll get to more on this in just one second.
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00:22:32.000 Okay, so as I say, with Dr. Fauci, what does this really show?
00:22:35.000 It shows that he was not a forward-thinking, creative scientist who was just following the data.
00:22:39.000 Dr. Fauci was an institutionalist, and groupthink set in in these institutions, and an echo chamber set in in these institutions.
00:22:46.000 Lockdowns were the way to go, and it didn't matter whether the data didn't match the lockdowns.
00:22:50.000 Masks were the way to go, and it didn't matter whether the mask mandates were effective or ineffective.
00:22:55.000 Fauci just followed the crowd.
00:22:57.000 He was a follower, he was not a leader.
00:22:58.000 When you're a public health expert, theoretically, you're supposed to be a leader.
00:23:01.000 You're the person who's supposed to be speaking truth, no matter what.
00:23:05.000 And the media portrayed him this way, right?
00:23:06.000 Because Trump would say one thing, and then Fauci would say the opposite, because his statements were more in line with conventional thinking.
00:23:13.000 And then he was the hero, and Trump was the villain.
00:23:15.000 Okay, but Fauci never said anything that sort of bucked the conventional wisdom in the name of science.
00:23:20.000 In fact, very early on in the pandemic, he was sending out untrue information about mixing up case fatality rate and infection fatality rate.
00:23:27.000 He was saying there was a 2% case fatality rate, right?
00:23:30.000 And he was taking that as an IFR, right?
00:23:32.000 The difference between a case fatality rate and an infection fatality rate.
00:23:34.000 What percentage of people who are identified as having this thing die versus what percentage of people who are infected die?
00:23:41.000 Very, very different percentages.
00:23:43.000 Okay, but bottom line is this.
00:23:45.000 If you look at his emails, these are the emails of exactly what you would think.
00:23:49.000 A career bureaucrat who suddenly was thrust forward into the public limelight and took a series of conflicting positions based on whatever was the conventional wisdom of the day.
00:23:59.000 So do I think this makes Dr. Fauci the world's worst person?
00:24:02.000 No.
00:24:02.000 Do I think that there's always fog of war stuff going on in the middle of a novel coronavirus pandemic?
00:24:06.000 Sure.
00:24:07.000 I mean, just because he received emails in late January and February saying, you know, this could have happened in a Chinese lab, doesn't mean that he is forced to say, I think it happened in a Chinese lab.
00:24:18.000 But the sort of unequivocal statements he was making about it, that no, no, no, it almost certainly did not happen in a Chinese lab, that was unsupportable by the available evidence.
00:24:28.000 His statements about mass, which flip-flopped all the way around, And which it seems that he knew pretty early on that certain types of masks were effective and certain types were not.
00:24:36.000 That was unjustifiable.
00:24:38.000 He was a bureaucrat futzing around, in other words.
00:24:40.000 He's not the guy to whom you light votive candles.
00:24:43.000 And yet, the media treat him that way.
00:24:44.000 He's going to be receiving awards.
00:24:45.000 We're going to have documentaries about him.
00:24:47.000 We're going to have books about him.
00:24:48.000 About a career bureaucrat who kind of blew it.
00:24:51.000 That's my takeaway here.
00:24:53.000 Now, there's another takeaway here, which is an email that is at least partially redacted.
00:24:57.000 It's an email from Mark Zuckerberg, the head of Facebook, to Fauci, basically cold emailing him.
00:25:03.000 And Zuckerberg talks about how they're building a coronavirus information hub that they were going to put at the top of Facebook for everyone.
00:25:09.000 And he said he wanted to include a video from Fauci because people trust and want to hear from experts rather than just a bunch of agencies and political leaders.
00:25:14.000 Now, of course, the lie there is that Fauci is anything but an agency and political leader.
00:25:19.000 That's what he is.
00:25:21.000 And Zuckerberg offered to do a live Q&A.
00:25:23.000 And then there's a final paragraph that is redacted.
00:25:25.000 It's redacted under a trade secrets redaction.
00:25:27.000 Okay, and it's kind of unclear that the implication is possible.
00:25:33.000 That what this is, is Zuckerberg basically offering that Facebook will shut down information that Fauci doesn't want distributed.
00:25:38.000 Because this was a big problem throughout the pandemic.
00:25:40.000 If the WHO said something and you contradicted it, Facebook would ding you.
00:25:43.000 If you said something and Fauci contradicted it, Facebook would ding you.
00:25:46.000 The same thing was happening over at YouTube.
00:25:48.000 Two weeks before the CDC reversed its garbage, stupid chart showing that you couldn't, originally they said, even if you were vaccinated, you couldn't take off the mask indoors.
00:25:57.000 And I did a whole episode about this.
00:25:59.000 We removed it preemptively from YouTube because we knew that they would try to ding us for having contravened the wonderful and incredible CDC.
00:26:06.000 Two weeks later, the CDC flipped on it.
00:26:08.000 The notion that you're going to allow these public health bureaucrats to control the flow of information is pretty astonishing.
00:26:15.000 But again, what so much of this came down to was people didn't know who to trust, and the media decided who you should trust.
00:26:22.000 The media decided who you should trust.
00:26:24.000 The media decided you should trust Fauci, and you shouldn't trust anybody else.
00:26:27.000 Anybody who contravened Fauci was a bad guy, because the media has a simplistic black-and-white narrative where they didn't follow the science, they followed scientific quote-unquote institutions.
00:26:34.000 And Fauci, as an institutionalist, only mimicked what he thought would look best for the institution, namely take the most cautious possible line, yell at people about reopening schools, tell people it's bad to have open beaches, Tell people they can't go outdoors because they might get infected outdoor.
00:26:48.000 All this kind of stuff.
00:26:50.000 And now the media are sort of admitting this.
00:26:52.000 Right now the media are pretty much freely admitting this.
00:26:54.000 So for example, Ari Melber on MSNBC.
00:26:56.000 He said, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, for a year we ignored the lab leak theory, which again, I mean, Fauci was made aware of the lab leak theory in late January.
00:27:04.000 Like at the very beginning, late January, early February.
00:27:07.000 Here's Ari Melber fully admitting, the reason we ignored the lab leak was because of Trump.
00:27:10.000 The media had to set up the binary.
00:27:12.000 They needed a good guy and a bad guy.
00:27:13.000 By the way, I was noting this very early on, that the media were trying to split off Fauci from Trump, so that they could pose Fauci as the anti-Trump voice of science, and Trump as the bleep loony guy who's just saying crazy stuff.
00:27:23.000 It turns out, half the stuff Trump said was loony, and half of it was more accurate than the stuff that Fauci was saying.
00:27:29.000 And here's Ari Melber saying, yeah, we just regarded it lably because Trump said it.
00:27:33.000 On the one hand, if the chief and loudest advocate for something is a race-baiting liar, who lies all the time and has done things to contribute to, for example, the rise in hate crimes, you can understand why people don't want to get near that.
00:27:45.000 And yet, we all, I mean the whole world, has a vested interest in getting all the possible facts about where this came from, which informs what happened and what, maybe, if anything, to do about it.
00:27:55.000 Okay, but you all ignored it because Trump said it.
00:27:57.000 Maggie Haberman says the same thing over the New York Times.
00:27:59.000 She says, of course there was groupthink.
00:28:02.000 Early on when this happened, I think that there were a number of journalists who declined to ask questions who were covering specifically the origins of this virus.
00:28:11.000 And I think there was a there was a Twitter group think to try to push back on people who raised questions.
00:28:15.000 But at the end of the day, I come back to the fact that there can be enough enough issues here to go around.
00:28:21.000 And when you have a president and you have a secretary of state who say they have seen evidence Okay, you don't have to give them the benefit of the doubt.
00:28:34.000 You guys could have investigated.
00:28:36.000 But again, you had a narrative, and the narrative had to be preserved.
00:28:38.000 So what we see here is when institutions matter more than truth, things get really ugly.
00:28:43.000 This is true throughout life.
00:28:44.000 Throughout life.
00:28:45.000 When an institution matters more than the baseline truth, you end up with falsehood being promulgated.
00:28:49.000 For Fauci, the institution of the NIAID and the NIH, that mattered more than him following the science.
00:28:56.000 For the media, the institution of the media, which was dependent on the Democratic Party being successful, mattered more than following the actual science.
00:29:05.000 And this led them down some pretty deep rabbit holes.
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00:30:18.000 Okay, by the way, just a quick note on the institution of science.
00:30:21.000 I've been ranting about this for a while.
00:30:22.000 I have a full chapter in my brand new book, The Authoritarian Moment, on the perversion of science and how science has basically become institutionalism.
00:30:30.000 Great sort of addendum here from the scientific community.
00:30:32.000 My wife at Ford forwarded me this story yesterday, of course, being a doctor and in the scientific community.
00:30:37.000 The editor of the medical journal JAMA has now been forced to step down from his job, according to Robbie Whelan at the Wall Street Journal.
00:30:44.000 Why?
00:30:44.000 Did he do something anti-scientific?
00:30:46.000 No, of course not.
00:30:47.000 He's being forced to step down from his job because he contravened politically correct notions, accidentally, according to the Wall Street Journal.
00:30:54.000 The editor-in-chief of the Journal of American Medical Association, one of the country's preeminent medical research journals, is stepping down after the publication produced a podcast episode and a tweet that questioned the existence of racism in medicine.
00:31:05.000 You're not even allowed to question it.
00:31:07.000 You're not even allowed to question whether your doctor is racist.
00:31:09.000 He is racist.
00:31:10.000 And if you'd say otherwise, you'd get fired from your job at the head of JAMA.
00:31:14.000 On February 24th, JAMA's official Twitter account posted a message that read in part, The message urged readers to listen to an episode of a JAMA podcast hosted by Edward Livingston, a top editor at the Journal, in which, according to several news reports, he said,
00:31:32.000 The JAMA tweet went viral, and it, along with the podcast discussion, provoked widespread indignation on social media and among research doctors, some of whom pledged to boycott JAMA by refusing to submit papers to the journal or provide peer review for its publications.
00:31:46.000 Howard Botchner, a pediatrician at BU who has edited the journal since 2011, was placed on leave in March, and now he has been fired.
00:31:53.000 The Institute for Anti-Racism in Medicine, a non-profit that promotes racial equity issues and professional useless people, circulated an online petition calling for a formal review of Dr. Boucher's handling of the incident.
00:32:04.000 The petition garnered more than 9,000 signatures.
00:32:08.000 They deleted the podcast episode completely.
00:32:10.000 The tweet was deleted as well.
00:32:13.000 Instead, Dr. Bauchner put up a recording, a forced malice struggle session, in which he said racism and structural racism exist in the United States and in healthcare.
00:32:22.000 And then he was forced to resign.
00:32:24.000 So, what exactly was the scientific evidence that was shown for him to remove an entire podcast episode discussing this crucial issue?
00:32:32.000 There was no scientific evidence that was provided.
00:32:34.000 He was just forced to step out.
00:32:35.000 Again, institutions exist in every area of American life, and if the institution outweighs the truth, then bad things happen.
00:32:43.000 You're seeing this happen inside the American Psychological Association where they are completely redefining terminology in order to meet with woke standards.
00:32:49.000 You've seen this inside the American Medical Association where there have been calls to get rid of concepts like biological sex for some radicals because they wish to redefine gender.
00:33:00.000 You've seen this happen inside, now, JAMA, the most prestigious journal of American medicine there is.
00:33:05.000 And, of course, it happened with regard to the coronavirus-19.
00:33:08.000 It happened with regard to COVID-19.
00:33:10.000 When the institutions of American life decided, for example, that it was perfectly acceptable for you to be out in the streets, en masse, protesting for George Floyd's death, you just couldn't be out there going to church, outdoors, right?
00:33:21.000 It was very important.
00:33:22.000 The science trumped Well, it was trumped by te-science, right?
00:33:26.000 Institutional science.
00:33:27.000 And there's a reason why you should pick up my book, The Authoritarian Moment.
00:33:30.000 I have a full-scale discussion of all of this kind of stuff.
00:33:34.000 And again, when you respect institutions as opposed to the truth, you're doing so because you believe in particular narratives.
00:33:41.000 You believe that certain narratives have to remain the truth even if the data don't support them.
00:33:45.000 The troublesome thing about science is that if science is truly about data, if data is what matters in science, then all data does is going around debunking things.
00:33:53.000 Data is basically the Socrates of modern life.
00:33:55.000 It goes around asking serious questions and then debunking everybody's narratives, debunking everybody's ideas.
00:34:01.000 But what happens when science gets hijacked?
00:34:04.000 Well, when science gets hijacked by the narrative, then science is no longer science.
00:34:08.000 More than that, there's now a push in American life to get rid of science as a whole.
00:34:12.000 So science has been thrown out the window in many of these cases, but not just that.
00:34:16.000 There's been an issue with data.
00:34:18.000 If you collect data, this is considered racist in certain circumstances, because the narrative matters more than anything else, because the narrative allows you to achieve power, and power is the goal.
00:34:28.000 We'll get to that in just one second, because that brings us to President Biden's speech in Tulsa.
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00:36:40.000 Meanwhile, Joe Biden was down in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
00:36:49.000 He was paying homage to the 100-year commemoration of the Tulsa massacre, which we talked about yesterday.
00:36:56.000 And I think in order to understand Joe Biden when it comes to race, you have to understand that the entire Democratic Party right now has decided to centralize, they've decided to center all their attention around a new definition of racism.
00:37:07.000 Their definition of racism is anything they don't like.
00:37:10.000 Now, that's been their definition for a while, but their new theory is that all the institutions of American life are shot through with racism and they never have to define racism.
00:37:17.000 See, you and I could define racism pretty easily because we speak the language of English.
00:37:21.000 Racism means that you believe in the superiority or inferiority of people based specifically on their race.
00:37:26.000 That is the definition of racism.
00:37:27.000 But the left doesn't believe in that definition because if that's the definition, then racism has been alleviated largely over the course of American history.
00:37:35.000 Particularly over the last 60 years.
00:37:37.000 Most Americans understand that to believe such things is considered evil in our society.
00:37:43.000 To be an actual honest-to-God racist who believes in the inferiority of somebody based on race is something that is not even considered remotely within the bounds of the rational in modern society and in modern discourse.
00:37:53.000 So, what did the left have to do?
00:37:55.000 Instead, they had to say, well, the institutions of America are shot through with racism.
00:37:59.000 And we don't actually have to define that.
00:38:01.000 We're just going to say it.
00:38:03.000 And then if you don't understand what we're talking about, we're just going to say it again.
00:38:05.000 So the great sort of prevaricator about this sort of stuff and popularizer of this sort of nonsense is Ibram X. Kendi.
00:38:11.000 So Ibram X. Kendi is a professor at Boston University, which is insane and demonstrates the uselessness of higher education.
00:38:17.000 He's also the head of what is called the Center for Anti-Racism Research, which today has provided zero research, so far as I'm aware, but has taken in literally tens of millions of dollars from major institutions, including $10 million from Jack Dorsey of Twitter just last year for brilliance like this.
00:38:32.000 So here was Ibram X. Kendi.
00:38:33.000 This is, I believe, a couple of years ago at the Aspen Ideas Festival.
00:38:35.000 He was asked explicitly, how do you define racism?
00:38:39.000 And here is Ibram X. Kendi attempting to define racism.
00:38:43.000 This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard, but this is the basis for race ideology on the left today.
00:38:49.000 So racism, I would define it as a collection of racist policies that lead to racial inequity that are substantiated by racist ideas.
00:39:01.000 And anti-racism Is it pretty simple using the same terms?
00:39:06.000 Anti-racism is a collection of anti-racist policies leading to racial...anybody want to take a guess?
00:39:11.000 Equity that are substantiated by anti-racist ideas.
00:39:15.000 Okay, this is the fact, my favorite part of this is where he kind of arches his eyebrows because he said something quite profound.
00:39:21.000 That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life.
00:39:23.000 The reason it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life is if somebody asks you to define a term and then you use the term in the definition, you have not defined the term.
00:39:30.000 I'm holding a pen right here.
00:39:31.000 If you said define a pen and I said a pen is a pen.
00:39:35.000 You'd be like, that added no new information.
00:39:37.000 I have no idea what you're talking about.
00:39:38.000 If I said to you, define racism, and you said, racism is a thing that is racist, because it is motivated by racism.
00:39:43.000 You'd be like, I don't know what you're talking about, because that didn't add any new information.
00:39:46.000 Everyone else says this crap with a straight face.
00:39:50.000 And everybody just goes, oh, ooh, ah.
00:39:52.000 Okay, but this provides the basis for Democrats to say that any inequality of outcome is representative of racism in the system.
00:40:01.000 And this has been imbibed at the deepest level by the Democratic Party.
00:40:05.000 So that was the purpose of Joe Biden going to Tulsa.
00:40:07.000 It wasn't just to provide some sort of commemoration of an evil event in American life.
00:40:12.000 It was to say that that evil event is indicative of what America was and remains with regard to black Americans.
00:40:19.000 So Joe Biden goes down to Tulsa, Oklahoma.
00:40:20.000 First, he has a fight with his teleprompter.
00:40:22.000 I mean, this is just requisite.
00:40:23.000 Just as like an opening, as an opening move, as an opening gambit in every one of his rallies, he actually brings out the teleprompter and then he physically spars with it.
00:40:30.000 So here is Joe Biden versus the teleprompter, as always.
00:40:34.000 A belief enforced by law, by badge, by hood and by noose that speaks to that lit the fuse It lit it by the spark that it provided.
00:40:51.000 A fuse of fury was an innocent interaction that turned into a terrible, terrible headline allegation.
00:41:04.000 Yeah, man.
00:41:05.000 Teleprompter puts Joe down before the count, as always.
00:41:07.000 But the real purpose here is to conflate two ideas.
00:41:11.000 Idea number one is that we should come to grips with America's history of racism.
00:41:14.000 Obviously true.
00:41:15.000 We should pay attention to things like the Tulsa Massacre, because that is a part of American history that was neglected in education for a very long time.
00:41:22.000 My guess is that only in the last few years have most Americans even been made aware of the Tulsa Massacre, as opposed to, like, the Civil War, or as opposed to World War I or World War II.
00:41:32.000 But the reality is that that is a fairly, and that's good.
00:41:35.000 I'm glad more people are aware of the Tulsa massacre now.
00:41:38.000 That is a very good thing.
00:41:39.000 But the idea is that if you are opposed to the racialized agenda of the Biden administration, if you say things have kind of changed between 1921 and 2021, which they most indubitably have, then this means that you want to deny history.
00:41:52.000 So here was Joe Biden performing exactly this sort of conflation.
00:41:56.000 Here he was yesterday saying that America's great because we're coming to terms now with our dark side.
00:42:02.000 We should know the good, the bad, everything.
00:42:08.000 That's what great nations do.
00:42:11.000 They come to terms with their dark sides.
00:42:18.000 And we're a great nation.
00:42:21.000 Alrighty, so we're coming to terms with our dark side.
00:42:23.000 But what he means by that is that we are going to fundamentally shift the way that institutions are run in the United States in a racist fashion.
00:42:30.000 So Biden says, Americans think that if I hold you down, I lift myself up.
00:42:34.000 This is a pretty wild statement.
00:42:36.000 For too long, we've allowed a narrowed, cramped view of the promise of this nation to fester.
00:42:46.000 The view that America is a zero-sum game, where there's only one winner.
00:42:53.000 If you succeed, I fail.
00:42:57.000 If you get ahead, I'm falling behind.
00:43:00.000 If you get a job, I lose mine.
00:43:05.000 And maybe worst of all, if I hold you down, I lift myself up.
00:43:11.000 Okay, how many Americans believe that right now?
00:43:13.000 Like truly, how many Americans believe that?
00:43:15.000 How many Americans are really...
00:43:16.000 Like he's saying that Americans today are malevolent, right?
00:43:19.000 Where too many Americans believe that I have to hold you down in order to lift myself up.
00:43:23.000 So Americans are really, really bad people.
00:43:24.000 Like today, not 1921.
00:43:26.000 Today, Americans are terrible.
00:43:28.000 Not only that, Joe Biden said that white supremacy is the greatest threat in America today.
00:43:32.000 It is the greatest threat in America today.
00:43:34.000 Now, here's the thing.
00:43:35.000 White supremacists, horrible people, believe horrible things.
00:43:39.000 No one has been more critical of white supremacists than I have.
00:43:42.000 I've been personally targeted by white supremacists.
00:43:43.000 The FBI arrested a white supremacist a couple of years ago trying to kill me and my family.
00:43:47.000 So, white supremacists and I, not friends.
00:43:50.000 Also, he conflates white supremacy with pretty much everything he doesn't like, and this is part of the danger.
00:43:55.000 How many headlines have you seen in the media recently saying things like, healthcare disparities are a result of white supremacy?
00:44:02.000 How many times have you seen members of this administration talk about how unequal outcomes in the justice system are the result of white supremacy as opposed to individual action by people of different races?
00:44:16.000 So here is Joe Biden laying it out there.
00:44:18.000 Here we go.
00:44:20.000 As I said in my address to the joint session of Congress, according to the intelligence community, terrorism from white supremacy is the most lethal threat to the homeland today.
00:44:31.000 Not ISIS, not Al Qaeda, white supremacists.
00:44:37.000 That's not me.
00:44:38.000 That's the intelligence community under both Trump and under my administration.
00:44:44.000 Okay, so first of all, if he just wants to say that that white supremacist terrorism happens and is threatening.
00:44:50.000 That's okay.
00:44:51.000 I have no problem with that.
00:44:52.000 But if the argument is that the most lethal threat to Americans today is white supremacists and terrorists, that is not true by any statistical measure of which I am aware.
00:45:00.000 The most lethal threat to Americans today, like overall, or the most lethal threat to America today, that's overall, All of this is driven by an agenda, right?
00:45:09.000 The agenda is that Joe Biden wants to radically remake America's institutions.
00:45:12.000 He doesn't have to provide data.
00:45:14.000 He doesn't have to provide an actual argument.
00:45:15.000 He just throws out Ibram X. Kendi-style circular reasoning, and then you're just expected to accept it.
00:45:20.000 That's the reason he was in Tulsa.
00:45:21.000 It was not just to commemorate.
00:45:23.000 It was obviously to provide the predicate for shifting America's institutions and our notions of individual rights versus the government.
00:45:30.000 Alrighty, we'll be back here later today with an additional hour of content.
00:45:32.000 In the meantime, go check out the Michael Knowles show he discusses the U.S.
00:45:36.000 flying the pride flag at the Vatican.
00:45:37.000 It is an amazing thing.
00:45:38.000 I don't think they did this in Saudi Arabia, by the way.
00:45:40.000 You can hear more details about that story over on Michael's show that's available right now.
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00:46:11.000 Biden claims that white supremacy is the top threat against the United States.
00:46:16.000 Gender nullification surgery flattens people's genitals and turns them into real-life Ken dolls.
00:46:22.000 And the U.S.
00:46:22.000 flies a gay pride flag at the Vatican.